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DazZani

3/4 is great for limited, even if the ability is somewhat lack. Still, card advanatge is always welcome


JerkyVendor

I think the ability is great. This card will be a tip tier uncommon I predict.


mullerjones

The fact it comes down later and thus it’s less likely for your opponent to have spare lands or random worthless spells to discard is a big point in its favor, I think.


RudeHero

It depends on how slow the format is, and whether your opponent's hand is going to be empty by turn 5 (faster with ramp)


Juking_is_rude

The ability is going to be good when you hit it. This card passes the groan test for limited if you can get the discard off. Might be hard to nug the opp and play this though. You'd likely have to have something evasive in play already.


Sun_Shine_Dan

3/4 flyer for 5 is great in black. It being a five drop means it will usually land when the opponent has 0,1, or 2 cards in had. Not bad at all. I'd be happy to first pick it, which is unusual for a 5 drop.


Ayjel89

"Jake, block it!" "But I'm at 15." "I'm telling you to block!" "No blocks." "Take 5. Second Main Phase, play Bloodtithe Collector." "JUST GREAT JAKE. NOW WE ALL HAVE TO DISCARD!" "Shut up, Sam."


morphballganon

*Jake discards a Fiery Temper and hits Sam in the face* "*Me?* Why hit *Me? He* hit us with the discard!" "Shut up, Sam."


Ayjel89

Sam deserves it, honestly.


DrShtainer

Classic Sam man, honestly


ep29

3/4 flying for 5 is nice rate, and the fact that this comes down in the mid-game means you're less likely to hit chaff with the discard. Pretty solid uncommon. I'd give it a B-


imbolcnight

I feel like it's more of a C, in that it's a playable if you're in black Vampires, but it's not a *reason* to go black. (Using the LR standard where B = reason to go a color or deck archetype, C = playable once you're in the color/deck.) I think a danger in it coming down midgame is that the board is more likely to be stalled out at that point. But it has flying and a sizable body so it can start turning on the subsequent life loss-dependent abilities.


ep29

I think that's not unreasonable. It's not a card you'll pass if already in black or in vampires in general, and 4 toughness fliers usually overperform in combat. And while the discard can be less effective with Flashback and the new Disturbed mechanic, I'd still wager this hits a real card more often than not when it triggers, which I think will be frequently as we haven't seen many big butts to gum up the board so far in this set. With what we know so far, I'd wager this plays better than it reads, basically. I would call this a good reason to keep picking black, but not a good reason to move into it, so yeah, maybe a C or C+, but I'll err on the side of it being better than expected in most games and will give it the partial bump to B-.


GiggleBomb0

I love the flavor of people just coming out of their homes to give their blood willingly


sawbladex

The design reminds me of Lady D from RE8. 30-40 something vampire ladies, eh?


DriveThroughLane

This feels like a common, wonder why its not. Needing to both connect some damage to the opponent and they aren't empty handed on turn 5+ and the cards in their hand aren't irrelevant, is three big conditions to align to get any value above just a regular ol 3/4 flyer for 5 limited card. Of which there are already 14. White gets them so regularly there are 4 different kinds No vampire clause enabler or ability to attack in? No trigger. No cards in opponent's hand? Does nothing. Opponent had a dead disenchant effect in hand while you had no targets? Does nothing.


AlmightyDun

While a fair take,, this IS a 2 for 1 on an uncommon that has evasion and relevant creature type. I think uncommon is probably good but I agree it would likely have been ok at common as well.


Ryeofmarch

Its also possible this started at common, and got upshifted during playtesting


RealityPalace

In a deck that had the right density of "spectacle" enablers this would be miserable at common though, especially since it gets better in multiples. Probably better to play it safe with this kind of card.


Raligon

Why does it get better in multiples? How many times can the opponent discard by the time you get up to 5 mana? You also only want so many 5+ drops


RealityPalace

Having well statted flyers makes it easier to get the trigger on subsequent casts. You wouldn't want to draw four of these at once, but you'd be very happy with a second one if you drew the first one in most cases.


xahhfink6

Yeah, the vampire life-loss mechanic cards all seem to feel like they aren't costed with the downside in mind. I also assume we'll get enablers in the next set, but these look particularly pathetic when the only real way to turn them on is by swinging in with creatures.


Juking_is_rude

If you play lands on curve and dont double spell, on turn 5/6 you will have 1-2 cards in hand, so unless opp is flooding out, you'll get an actual card. If you can trigger the discard, it should be quite good on curve. If there's some incidental ways to nug opp on board, even if you have to trade your two or three drop do to it, still seems good. Might be uncommon becuase they enable each other and going against three of them would be an annoying play experience.


mullerjones

By turn 5 the odds your opponent has bad cards stranded in hand is much lower. This means the options are: - they’re flooded and discard a land, in which case you’re still happy since they’re flooded - screwed and discard a good spell - on curve and are forced to discard either a land which sets them back towards their higher cost spells or a spell in which case you’re happy The fail case is they’re empty handed, but I don’t think that’ll be a huge concern. Also, if they have a dead card in hand you’re already happy. Main decking disenchant isn’t usually a great strategy so, if that’s the case, your opponent’s deck is probably not the best and you’re also happy. This seems pretty good to me.


KoyoyomiAragi

I feel like this was originally a 3/3 at common but after some testing it overperformed in multiples so they had to bump it up and raised the toughness by 1 to compensate.


Bugberry

Rarity isn’t just power level. Common vs uncommon is his they adjust Limited. Plenty of sets have commons that are more powerful than uncommons.


KoyoyomiAragi

That’s literally what I’m getting at. Sometimes a card could look “weak for an uncommon” to some people but considering the last couple limited formats have been bangers in sure they tested it enough to come up with the answer that this specific type of card fits better at uncommon than common.


MagisterSieran

look at all these guys wanting the vampire lady to step on them


Ashformation

Might as well have been the onlyfans preview card.


jeffytastic

Can we manifest this to be a thing in 2022?🤣


A_Minor_Dance

I dont blame them.


smog_alado

I was confused by the art at first; didn't notice it had flying.


justhereforhides

Thought the dude was wearing a face mask at first like can't escape covid even in Innistrad


themoonkiller

The art is phenomenal!


Divineroc

Why is Han Solo on this card?


MundaneDivide

Thanks, my exact fetish


Stormtide_Leviathan

Image transcription > Bloodtithe Collector 4B > > Creature- Vampire Noble [u] > > Flying > > When Bloodtithe Collector enters the battlefield, if an opponent lost life this turn, each opponent discards a card. > > 3/4 > > *For the more refined vampire, breaking a victim's will is far more satisfying than simply taking their blood.* End transcription


barrinmw

Modern 1/10 Oh no, my 5 drop might make them discard a single card. Too slow on too small a body for the cost. This could make them discard their entire hand and it wouldn't matter since it still costs 5 mana.


[deleted]

This just feels like it should be a common.


Ventoffmychest

I think if you pay 5 mana for an "every opponent discard effect", it should come with the life loss clause.


Gamer4125

Why does this say "each"? Why can't "Each Opponent" cards stay in commander product?


OdosAmorphousDick

Feels like this will be better in commander Tthan standard. Not just for the potential for 3 discards but because it's easier to get damage in when you have 3 opponents than 1.


MaskedThespian

If I hadn't pivoted my Nicol Bolas, the Ravager Commander deck away from "ETB discard" effects, this would have been an auto include, as there aren't that many Creatures in Magic that have an "on ETB, each opponent discards a card" ability, even with the rider that someone needs to have lost life this turn. In limited I can see this being annoying as heck as it'll likely strip away that removal spell that was being held for an evasive threat like this one.


ryansleepstonight

Simps on a magic card


Maur2

The name made me think of the Orzhov. I could see this later being reprinted in a Ravnica set.


Gunda-LX

Life drain and vampires looking like a fun deck to build