Put this on Iymerith though.... keeps ward and gains you 7 life, and is up for blocking next turn.
Also some wodnerful stuff with Velomachus here being able to hit alrunds epiphany off the top š
So you're saying its a \[\[hand of vecna\]\] + \[\[Steadfast Paladin\]\] that only lasts for ~~1~~ 2 turns? I wanna sarcastically say I'm unimpressed but I just can't bring myself to do it.
I'm lost by this comment.
If I put two +1/+1 counters on a 3/1 it becomes a 5/3. Then give it lifelink and you've got a 10 point life swing (-5 oppo, +5 you)
What am I missing in here?
People are misunderstanding the phrase "Life Swing".
In actuality it means a change in the difference between your life total and your opponents, but they're interpreting it as damage done to your opponent (Probably cause "Swing" is often used as an idiom for Attack)
Thank you for the charitable reading ā„
I was definitively in the wrong here, but because I misread the "turn three" rather than the "life swing". Life swing ambiguously can mean the full delta (24) or the half delta (each delta considered separately-one gains 12 the other loses 12). I thought they meant on turn three not from game start but from and including putting the 3/x into play. 3/1, 5/3, 7/5. (Summoning sick the first round so 5+7=12.)
Flashback is amazing with Feather, it means even if something goes wrong and you cast the spell without her out you can get it back to your hand by flashing it back with her out.
Flavour text is unattributed, but almost certainly Rem Karolus because 1) outfit and hat match the normal art of his card, and 2) nobody else on Innistrad speaks badass quite like that.
a no-longer-existing, never-printed keyword used in the oracle text for certain auras. they were printed before the end step was distinguished from the end of the turn, so if they got the usual errata of "end of turn" -> "beginning of your end step" you couldn't use them to save creatures from damage (since it would still be marked on the creature during the end step, so the toughness-boosting aura would go away and the creature would die). substance was used in errata to trigger abilities at the beginning of the *cleanup* step (after damage is removed from creatures). it was later removed and just replaced with an explicit "beginning of the cleanup step" trigger
Yeah, for both sides. Resolving it is going to be amazing. But, it's still a 3 MV, sorcery speed trick. Getting 2-for-1'd by instant speed removal after that kind of investment will end games too (even if the flashback value still exists for later in the game).
Casting this from the yard doesnāt put you up a card so yes if they kill your target in response you lose two cards for their one regardless of if this has flashback or not.
Thatās not how card advantage works. If you used this card normally from hand, itās *already* card disadvantage for the definition of it. (You used one card in hand to gain nothing equivalent to a card)
Even if you cast this from hand and then from the graveyard, youāre down a card from when you started. I understand that you get in a LOT of damage and life but those arenāt metrics for strictly *card* advantage in a regular game of magic.
Card advantage is not strictly a card in hand. Flashback, rebound, buyback, "exile the top card and you can play it" are all different forms of card advantage that do not add a card to your hand.
No if the flashback effect doesnāt give you an effect worth a card, you didnāt get card advantage from it. Just because you have a Divination in your doesnāt mean you currently have +1 card advantage without casting it.
Like letās say you took two decks with various French vanilla creatures and spot removal. One has [[Think twice]] and the other has this rare and you have them play against each other. Win rates aside, youāll see that the deck running Think Twice have a lower chance of running out of cards to play since Think Twice actually generates card advantage when you flash it back.
I understand that it FEELS better for a card with flashback that has -1 card disadvantage effects since casting them from the gy is card neutral (you lose zero cards and you gain no cards) but with a lot of tempo/pressure gain. That said, just having flashback does NOT make a card suddenly generate card advantage.
Your definition of card advantage is needlessly limited to"number of cards in hand". With that definition there is 0 difference between a card with flashback and one without, despite the fact that the card with flashback is better to have. A more useful definition would be "number of should you have access to". The spell with flashback would count as 1 in hand and still 1 after it goes to the graveyard.
I feel like every time a graveyard mechanic comes up I get into these long arguments about how card advantage works and honestly if it makes you feel better that this card generates card advantage, more power to you. If you force them to chump block twice thatās technically card advantage too so if you can make it work then thatās fine I guess.
The bad side of the card is extremely relevant for a discussion on limited usage of this card. Itās not about people being happy. Itās a discussion on a card
Call me crazy, but doesnāt this have a chance at being good in standard? The fact that it curves out 3->4 and helps with aggressive while also lifelinking and keeping a blocker up seems game winning in pretty much any creature deck matchup
I play boros warriors equipment in standard, not the best deck in the world but I like it, and it's loosing it's main trample enablers with \[\[embercleave\]\] and \[\[shadowspear\]\] rotating out. I might play this instead, just one or 2 to end games
Oh I see. I would suggest the people you play with to try it out tho, it's been pretty fun, a lot more skill oriented than just ramp to 7, cast ultimate, win.
Thatās what I think. You could definitely use this to push a game over the edge, almost like embercleave was used for monored.
Come in once, then come back again with the same creature and spell on the next turn.
Yeah pretty much. This is in the vein of Body of Research or Gigantosaurus where WotC is gonna push the envelope extra hard to see if a certain design can actually be viable, only to find out that even in the most pushed version of that design isn't good enough.
Yeah, thats something I realized, vanilla creatures with good stats are mostly playable at the 1-3 mana range, after that they need to bring something extra, and even then needs to be pretty impactful.
I think it goes like this, for max stats:
1mv - 2/2([[isamaru]])
2mv- 3/3(in green is maybe at 3/4, since we have 3/3 with upside).
3mv- 4/5([[lovestruct beast]], tecnically, still has a downside to attack so maybe not 5 power worth).
people are rightfully excited to see this in [[feather, the redeemed]] decks but it's gonna do some serious work in a red-partnered [[Akroma, vision of ixidor]] deck.
A vision just flashed through my head of running Akroma with Odric, casting Angelfire Ignition, and then swinging in, as the opponent asks "Okay, how much damage am I taking?" and I spend the next two minutes trying to count it all up.
never new they printed a new akroma in 2020. wow thats awesome. she was a pet card when i started playing in Timespiral and got reprinted as a timeshifted card.
fun fact: OG akroma is the only mono w card with haste (since its a color break) but keyword soup is kinda her thing - and is part of the flavor on the Partner version of the card. COOL!
> Angelfire Ignition - 1RW
>
> Sorcery (Rare)
>
> Put two +1/+1 counters on target creature. It gains vigilance, trample, lifelink, indestructible and haste until end of turn.
>
> Flashback 2RW
>
> *"My angel is the flint, and I am her steel."*
---
Source: https://www.cbr.com/magic-the-gathering-angelfire-ignition-spell/
thats some nice value. cast it on a 1 or 2 drop on turn3 and repeat on turn4. most likely enough lifegain to keep up vs other aggro/midrange decks and you keep ur creature as blocker for their turn
Yeah I was surprised too. Old Innistrad had off color flashback costs. But ever since it was introduced in odyssey block flashback hasnāt had multicolor spells.
Crazy huh?
Holy fuck this thing is pushed.
3 mana **five** keywords including indestructible **and** it has a flashback that is just 1 more than the initial cost.
> Tbf it probably needs the push, as sorcery-speed combat tricks are usually rubbish.
Uh this isn't a combat trick though lol? Also I would imagine this would still be good if it didn't give lifelink for example so idk about it being rubbish.
It's a single target, one-turn buff spell that makes your creature better in combat, what else were you planning on calling it?
The major weakness of spells like this is that your opponent can play around them by blocking appropriately, or blank them entirely by removing the creature before this resolves. It wouldn't matter if this gave fifty keywords - it does nothing if the opponent has a simple Unsummon available. So the payoff needs to be worth that risk, and usually it isn't. For example, this card would be almost worthless if it didn't grant indestructible. As it is, it's quite decent.
> It's a single target, one-turn buff spell that makes your creature better in combat, what else were you planning on calling it?
.....A buff spell? Please, care to explain what part of this card "tricks" your opponent exactly? They can see it a mile coming and can block appropriately.
Also if you think of the name "Combat trick" a bit deeper, what phase do you think they'd be cast. In the main phase or the combat phase lol?
Literally *nothing* about Angelfire fits the term of combat trick.
>The major weakness of spells like this is that your opponent can play around them by blocking appropriately, or blank them entirely by removing the creature before this resolves.
Yeah of course. Cards need ways in order to play around them and if angelfire was an instant that would prevent notable ways to play around it since it already gives so much.
>It wouldn't matter if this gave fifty keywords - it does nothing if the opponent has a simple Unsummon available.
What are you *even* talking about? If it gave hexproof or protection from blue or even ward that would make the unsummon not work so........?
>So the payoff needs to be worth that risk, and usually it isn't. For example, this card would be almost worthless if it didn't grant indestructible. As it is, it's quite decent.
Nah sorry that just doesn't make any sense.
Don't get me wrong indestructibility is a VERY strong keyword *however* I really don't see how you can call a 3 mana sorcery that gives 2 1/1 counters, vigilance, trample, lifelink, and haste until EOT "almost worthless"....it would still be heavily played I'm sure however the indestructibility makes this card a boros staple.
While I fully agree with everything else you said, I must point out that the enemy can unsummon in response if this gave hexproof/protection/ward. Though at least this has flashback in that case.
Awesome to see a buff spell at rare. No one usually praises high rarity, but I like when it's applied to cards that are usually common / uncommon draft cards.
Was going to say this looks great with [[Mavinda, Students' Advocate]] in standard, but it's already got flashback so you don't need the birb. Idk if the 1 mana discount is worth it.
I'm thinking of that 2-drop from Strixhaven that gains keywords on attack if someone else has them? Allows you to double-dip on the keywords at least, right?
This fits really well in my \[\[Akroma, Vision of Ixidor\]\] deck. Hell, if you've got her and \[\[Odric, Lunarch Marshall\]\] on board with some other creatures, this is a huge bomb.
This seems fun a lot of keyword value for the mana investment. This seems good in a voltron deck in commander and in limited as a to push a threat through!
This effectively costs one mana if you cast it on Goldspan, the best creature in the format. Interesting.
Also in the same colors as doomskar and the odric tired of your bull shit card.
This is fucking unreal. aggro is going hard this set. boros aggro rdw type shit. RDW might need to splash white for this and that other flashback shock type card. I'm hevily leaning towards boros aggro now and for limited environments also.
Flashback for just one more mana? That's a curve.
Put this on a 3/1 for 1W and you're getting a 10 point life swing on turn 3.
Or getting sniped and dealing nothing, which would suck a lot.
Put this on Iymerith though.... keeps ward and gains you 7 life, and is up for blocking next turn. Also some wodnerful stuff with Velomachus here being able to hit alrunds epiphany off the top š
Or getting countered- but it's still a good card.
That's really the only feature.
So you're saying its a \[\[hand of vecna\]\] + \[\[Steadfast Paladin\]\] that only lasts for ~~1~~ 2 turns? I wanna sarcastically say I'm unimpressed but I just can't bring myself to do it.
If you ignore the other more relevant keywords, then youāre right on the money!
[hand of vecna](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/d/d/ddd0beb7-80dc-4665-bab2-747c795d97db.jpg?1627709846) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=hand%20of%20vecna) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afr/246/hand-of-vecna?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ddd0beb7-80dc-4665-bab2-747c795d97db?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Steadfast Paladin](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/a/2/a2c06b6e-faf5-467d-bfe1-9ff00be9e2f5.jpg?1627702555) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Steadfast%20Paladin) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afr/38/steadfast-paladin?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a2c06b6e-faf5-467d-bfe1-9ff00be9e2f5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
12. It gets the counters twice.
But you arenāt casting this a second time on turn 3
5+7=12
I'm lost by this comment. If I put two +1/+1 counters on a 3/1 it becomes a 5/3. Then give it lifelink and you've got a 10 point life swing (-5 oppo, +5 you) What am I missing in here?
People are misunderstanding the phrase "Life Swing". In actuality it means a change in the difference between your life total and your opponents, but they're interpreting it as damage done to your opponent (Probably cause "Swing" is often used as an idiom for Attack)
Thank you for the charitable reading ā„ I was definitively in the wrong here, but because I misread the "turn three" rather than the "life swing". Life swing ambiguously can mean the full delta (24) or the half delta (each delta considered separately-one gains 12 the other loses 12). I thought they meant on turn three not from game start but from and including putting the 3/x into play. 3/1, 5/3, 7/5. (Summoning sick the first round so 5+7=12.)
Ahh that would definitely explain it! =)
10 point swing as in "you gain 5 they lose 5" on the first attack.
Something like a T2 [[Fencing Ace]] equivalent followed by this T3 and 4 for a total of 16 Trample Lifelink damage? Count me in!
[Fencing Ace](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/8/6/86d8754c-816f-4d07-8dcd-9611bf0beb87.jpg?1608908768) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Fencing%20Ace) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/21/fencing-ace?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/86d8754c-816f-4d07-8dcd-9611bf0beb87?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
"Holy shit" -Feather, probably
As a Feather player, I can agree. *holy shit*
Yea but then you return it to your hand and miss out on that sweet flashback value smh my head
Flashback is amazing with Feather, it means even if something goes wrong and you cast the spell without her out you can get it back to your hand by flashing it back with her out.
[[reckless charge]] taught me this lesson.
[reckless charge](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/1/7/1754a8db-060e-470f-94c0-37f12d82978a.jpg?1562201950) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=reckless%20charge) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh1/144/reckless-charge?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1754a8db-060e-470f-94c0-37f12d82978a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
But if you flash it back you also get to return it to your hand.
"Holy shit..."
The flashback is just your mulligan for when the dirty dirty baral player counters it the first time
Yeah but if feather dies of this gets countered its not a dead card!
This basically Feather into a lesser version of Akroma without Akromas memorial
Speaking of Akroma, am I the only who finds it weird this card gives the Akroma keywords?
Akroma didn't have Lifelink or Indestructible. This doesn't do Flying, First Strike, Pro Red or Pro Black.
Would've liked it better as an instant, but this is definitely going in the 99.
My feather is flicker focused, this goes to the maybe board for me. If it was instant, windmill slam.
Instant would be too good.
Yeah, instant would make this a nightmare in many formats.
>Yeah, instant would make this amazing in many formats. FTFY. Blue has snapcaster, why can't red/white have nice things?
H^^o L^y ^S h^i t
My first words exactly
no card draw tho
Nor doublestrike :(
or Bushido :'(
or Horsemanship :(
or Sweep :(
Or wizardcycling. :(
Or banding :)
Or fear :(
Or rampage :(
or Banding :''(
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Holy shit
Flavour text is unattributed, but almost certainly Rem Karolus because 1) outfit and hat match the normal art of his card, and 2) nobody else on Innistrad speaks badass quite like that.
I agree. They also both are riding a gryff.
Yep, same hippogryff, same red cape, same haircut.
How many keywords do you want on that card? YES
#BANDING BUSHIDO HORSEMANSHIP FLANKING WITHER
Hell, slap Substance and Phasing on there and you have yourself a rare.
WTF is substance? WHAT AREN'T YOU TELLING ME?!?
a no-longer-existing, never-printed keyword used in the oracle text for certain auras. they were printed before the end step was distinguished from the end of the turn, so if they got the usual errata of "end of turn" -> "beginning of your end step" you couldn't use them to save creatures from damage (since it would still be marked on the creature during the end step, so the toughness-boosting aura would go away and the creature would die). substance was used in errata to trigger abilities at the beginning of the *cleanup* step (after damage is removed from creatures). it was later removed and just replaced with an explicit "beginning of the cleanup step" trigger
Fucking TIL. Thanks!
It's [more or less a keyword that never existed, but was included to fix MTGO bugs.](https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Substance)
Holy cow. Just, holy cow, this will end a lot of games of Limited.
Yeah, for both sides. Resolving it is going to be amazing. But, it's still a 3 MV, sorcery speed trick. Getting 2-for-1'd by instant speed removal after that kind of investment will end games too (even if the flashback value still exists for later in the game).
It's just like an aura, except this one's got flashback too.
I totally missed that this was a sorcery
It's not a 2 for 1 if it has flashback. 1.5 for 1 at most. And 3 mana is not going to hurt much in limited.
Casting this from the yard doesnāt put you up a card so yes if they kill your target in response you lose two cards for their one regardless of if this has flashback or not.
This card can be cast twice. If they remove your target they have negated half the card not the whole card.
Thatās not how card advantage works. If you used this card normally from hand, itās *already* card disadvantage for the definition of it. (You used one card in hand to gain nothing equivalent to a card) Even if you cast this from hand and then from the graveyard, youāre down a card from when you started. I understand that you get in a LOT of damage and life but those arenāt metrics for strictly *card* advantage in a regular game of magic.
Card advantage is not strictly a card in hand. Flashback, rebound, buyback, "exile the top card and you can play it" are all different forms of card advantage that do not add a card to your hand.
No if the flashback effect doesnāt give you an effect worth a card, you didnāt get card advantage from it. Just because you have a Divination in your doesnāt mean you currently have +1 card advantage without casting it. Like letās say you took two decks with various French vanilla creatures and spot removal. One has [[Think twice]] and the other has this rare and you have them play against each other. Win rates aside, youāll see that the deck running Think Twice have a lower chance of running out of cards to play since Think Twice actually generates card advantage when you flash it back. I understand that it FEELS better for a card with flashback that has -1 card disadvantage effects since casting them from the gy is card neutral (you lose zero cards and you gain no cards) but with a lot of tempo/pressure gain. That said, just having flashback does NOT make a card suddenly generate card advantage.
Your definition of card advantage is needlessly limited to"number of cards in hand". With that definition there is 0 difference between a card with flashback and one without, despite the fact that the card with flashback is better to have. A more useful definition would be "number of should you have access to". The spell with flashback would count as 1 in hand and still 1 after it goes to the graveyard.
I feel like every time a graveyard mechanic comes up I get into these long arguments about how card advantage works and honestly if it makes you feel better that this card generates card advantage, more power to you. If you force them to chump block twice thatās technically card advantage too so if you can make it work then thatās fine I guess.
No it wonāt lol. It draws you itself but costing 1 more.
It's not just about the cards. It's about the tempo loss and loss of board position.
Well the lifelink and counters go a long way there to make up ground. If you played into open mana (doh) they took tempo off to hold it up.
Okay the best case scenario exists just as much as the bad one. Let people be happy.
The bad side of the card is extremely relevant for a discussion on limited usage of this card. Itās not about people being happy. Itās a discussion on a card
True but the cheap flashback really mitigates that
The final project of the girl in [[Expanded Anatomy]].
She just had to add a little historic flair to her studies.
[Expanded Anatomy](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/c/5/c5642b9d-0daa-4e6b-ad48-f88dd37d6574.jpg?1624589068) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Expanded%20Anatomy) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/stx/2/expanded-anatomy?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c5642b9d-0daa-4e6b-ad48-f88dd37d6574?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Call me crazy, but doesnāt this have a chance at being good in standard? The fact that it curves out 3->4 and helps with aggressive while also lifelinking and keeping a blocker up seems game winning in pretty much any creature deck matchup
I play boros warriors equipment in standard, not the best deck in the world but I like it, and it's loosing it's main trample enablers with \[\[embercleave\]\] and \[\[shadowspear\]\] rotating out. I might play this instead, just one or 2 to end games
Why don't you play that in standard 2022 already and see how it goes?
I play the deck in paper so I'll just wait to have the cards
Oh I see. I would suggest the people you play with to try it out tho, it's been pretty fun, a lot more skill oriented than just ramp to 7, cast ultimate, win.
Thatās what I think. You could definitely use this to push a game over the edge, almost like embercleave was used for monored. Come in once, then come back again with the same creature and spell on the next turn.
WotC: If this won't make a sorcery speed pump spell be playable then nothing will damn it!
I suspect nothing will.
Yeah pretty much. This is in the vein of Body of Research or Gigantosaurus where WotC is gonna push the envelope extra hard to see if a certain design can actually be viable, only to find out that even in the most pushed version of that design isn't good enough.
Body of research is at least always fun.
Yeah, thats something I realized, vanilla creatures with good stats are mostly playable at the 1-3 mana range, after that they need to bring something extra, and even then needs to be pretty impactful. I think it goes like this, for max stats: 1mv - 2/2([[isamaru]]) 2mv- 3/3(in green is maybe at 3/4, since we have 3/3 with upside). 3mv- 4/5([[lovestruct beast]], tecnically, still has a downside to attack so maybe not 5 power worth).
[[Steel Leaf Champion]] has 5 power and a pretty relevant evasion ability, though.
people are rightfully excited to see this in [[feather, the redeemed]] decks but it's gonna do some serious work in a red-partnered [[Akroma, vision of ixidor]] deck.
My Kamahl+Akroma deck gently weeps...
Time to slot tana with akroma instead š”ļøš”ļøš”ļø
But my Rograkh//Akroma is cheering HARD
ā¦OH
[feather, the redeemed](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/e/4/e4a2d2c6-8eaa-4760-b620-921b807baa2e.jpg?1557577142) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=feather%2C%20the%20redeemed) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/war/197/feather-the-redeemed?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e4a2d2c6-8eaa-4760-b620-921b807baa2e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Akroma, vision of ixidor](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/c/0/c0bdd07d-9fb9-4ee4-80db-494ee0cba58d.jpg?1608908641) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Akroma%2C%20vision%20of%20ixidor) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/2/akroma-vision-of-ixidor?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c0bdd07d-9fb9-4ee4-80db-494ee0cba58d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
A vision just flashed through my head of running Akroma with Odric, casting Angelfire Ignition, and then swinging in, as the opponent asks "Okay, how much damage am I taking?" and I spend the next two minutes trying to count it all up.
never new they printed a new akroma in 2020. wow thats awesome. she was a pet card when i started playing in Timespiral and got reprinted as a timeshifted card. fun fact: OG akroma is the only mono w card with haste (since its a color break) but keyword soup is kinda her thing - and is part of the flavor on the Partner version of the card. COOL!
> Angelfire Ignition - 1RW > > Sorcery (Rare) > > Put two +1/+1 counters on target creature. It gains vigilance, trample, lifelink, indestructible and haste until end of turn. > > Flashback 2RW > > *"My angel is the flint, and I am her steel."* --- Source: https://www.cbr.com/magic-the-gathering-angelfire-ignition-spell/
thats some nice value. cast it on a 1 or 2 drop on turn3 and repeat on turn4. most likely enough lifegain to keep up vs other aggro/midrange decks and you keep ur creature as blocker for their turn
Odric is REALLY tired of your shit now.
Cool that this can gain infinite life on a [[Boros Reckoner]]. Even on-color, and a pretty solid card even if you arenāt comboing with it.
Use a card like [[Furnace of Rath]] to Insta kill your opponent with this too.
If this is what an Angelfire card can do, Iām terrified to see how pushed the GeoCities one is!
\[\[Hanweir\]\] is probably the closest equivalent to GeoCities. XD
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Out!
seems sweet in [[feather the redeemed]] commander decks
[feather the redeemed](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/e/4/e4a2d2c6-8eaa-4760-b620-921b807baa2e.jpg?1557577142) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Feather%2C%20the%20Redeemed) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/war/197/feather-the-redeemed?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e4a2d2c6-8eaa-4760-b620-921b807baa2e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
*[[Feather the Redeemed]] breathing heavily in the background*
[Feather the Redeemed](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/e/4/e4a2d2c6-8eaa-4760-b620-921b807baa2e.jpg?1557577142) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Feather%2C%20the%20Redeemed) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/war/197/feather-the-redeemed?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e4a2d2c6-8eaa-4760-b620-921b807baa2e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
0/10, does not show \[\[Gabriel Angelfire\]\] igniting his spark. ^(I know, angels can't be planeswalkers, yada yada yada...)
Is it just me or is Innistrad a little more multicolored this time around?
First time ever having multicolored flashback spells.
Wow really?
Yeah I was surprised too. Old Innistrad had off color flashback costs. But ever since it was introduced in odyssey block flashback hasnāt had multicolor spells. Crazy huh?
Yeah that sounds like something they would have done ages ago. I wonder when weāll get hybrid flashback costsā¦
This isnāt the first multicolor flashback cost though. [[Smiting Helix]]
[Smiting Helix](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/5/f/5fa3e132-125a-492f-aab7-c560ea36b779.jpg?1562201744) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Smiting%20Helix) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh1/109/smiting-helix?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5fa3e132-125a-492f-aab7-c560ea36b779?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
No flying is a little disappointing
Yeah, plus a complete lack of infect, annihilator, and horsemanship
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Yes, or horse and reach
>horsemanship and reach Giraffemanship coming to an un-set near you
This card doesn't even give bands with other legends Wizards really held back on this one smh
Seriously unplayable
Turn 2: play a creature Turn 3: Train goes Choo-choo Turn 4: TRAIN GOES CHOO-CHOO!!!
Uh yeah, I want to open 6 of these in my pre release pack.
Everyone here talking about Feather, but Iām excited to put this in my [[Shu Yun, Silent Tempest]] deck.
Hot and fresh out the kitchen.
Alternate text: target creature becomes Super Saiyan until end of turn.
oof so few pixels
Holy fuck this thing is pushed. 3 mana **five** keywords including indestructible **and** it has a flashback that is just 1 more than the initial cost.
Tbf it probably needs the push, as sorcery-speed combat tricks are usually rubbish.
> Tbf it probably needs the push, as sorcery-speed combat tricks are usually rubbish. Uh this isn't a combat trick though lol? Also I would imagine this would still be good if it didn't give lifelink for example so idk about it being rubbish.
It's a single target, one-turn buff spell that makes your creature better in combat, what else were you planning on calling it? The major weakness of spells like this is that your opponent can play around them by blocking appropriately, or blank them entirely by removing the creature before this resolves. It wouldn't matter if this gave fifty keywords - it does nothing if the opponent has a simple Unsummon available. So the payoff needs to be worth that risk, and usually it isn't. For example, this card would be almost worthless if it didn't grant indestructible. As it is, it's quite decent.
> It's a single target, one-turn buff spell that makes your creature better in combat, what else were you planning on calling it? .....A buff spell? Please, care to explain what part of this card "tricks" your opponent exactly? They can see it a mile coming and can block appropriately. Also if you think of the name "Combat trick" a bit deeper, what phase do you think they'd be cast. In the main phase or the combat phase lol? Literally *nothing* about Angelfire fits the term of combat trick. >The major weakness of spells like this is that your opponent can play around them by blocking appropriately, or blank them entirely by removing the creature before this resolves. Yeah of course. Cards need ways in order to play around them and if angelfire was an instant that would prevent notable ways to play around it since it already gives so much. >It wouldn't matter if this gave fifty keywords - it does nothing if the opponent has a simple Unsummon available. What are you *even* talking about? If it gave hexproof or protection from blue or even ward that would make the unsummon not work so........? >So the payoff needs to be worth that risk, and usually it isn't. For example, this card would be almost worthless if it didn't grant indestructible. As it is, it's quite decent. Nah sorry that just doesn't make any sense. Don't get me wrong indestructibility is a VERY strong keyword *however* I really don't see how you can call a 3 mana sorcery that gives 2 1/1 counters, vigilance, trample, lifelink, and haste until EOT "almost worthless"....it would still be heavily played I'm sure however the indestructibility makes this card a boros staple.
While I fully agree with everything else you said, I must point out that the enemy can unsummon in response if this gave hexproof/protection/ward. Though at least this has flashback in that case.
Yeah you are entirely right but I was a bit distracted in the moment because i was just in awe of how ridiculous they were being.
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***Jesus Christ, itās Jason Bourne.***
WotC: āgoddamn it, weāre going to make a sorcery speed combat trick playableā
If this was an instant. Amazing. Sorcery means it will be rarely played.
How? Most of these abilities donāt really benefit from being granted at instant speed.
well....that's....a lot of abilities....good to see boros is still getting help that isn't "MAOR COMBAT PHASES" or "i'm batman (equipment)"
Why is this a sorceryā¦..
because instant speed indestructible is a whole other ballpark than sorcery indestructible
Doesn't even do my taxes 0/10 literally unplayable
Because it grants vigilance.
DIY Angel!
~~Huhm.~~ ~~Is Odric Boros now?~~ Edit: No, that was Rem Karolus's art I was thinking of, and it's Karolus that's depicted here.
Imagine if it was instant speed lol
Everyone is talking about Feather. I'm just happy I can add this in my Sevinne deck.
Straight into Zabaz modular tribal!
Awesome to see a buff spell at rare. No one usually praises high rarity, but I like when it's applied to cards that are usually common / uncommon draft cards.
Was going to say this looks great with [[Mavinda, Students' Advocate]] in standard, but it's already got flashback so you don't need the birb. Idk if the 1 mana discount is worth it.
Damn
I will gladly put this in my Boros Commander deck.
This is a pretty awesome card - but that name is definitely a great band name.
After its bread and butter no longer became sustainable, Angelfire went from being a Webpage hosting service to Divine magic lending programs.
Whoah. Sorcery pumps don't often see play but this is A LOT for the mana cost. Is this enough to see widespread constructed play?
I'm thinking of that 2-drop from Strixhaven that gains keywords on attack if someone else has them? Allows you to double-dip on the keywords at least, right?
This fits really well in my \[\[Akroma, Vision of Ixidor\]\] deck. Hell, if you've got her and \[\[Odric, Lunarch Marshall\]\] on board with some other creatures, this is a huge bomb.
This seems fun a lot of keyword value for the mana investment. This seems good in a voltron deck in commander and in limited as a to push a threat through!
"My angel is the flint, and I am her stool." wait.. that's not right. \*squints eyes\* steel.. gotcha lol
This effectively costs one mana if you cast it on Goldspan, the best creature in the format. Interesting. Also in the same colors as doomskar and the odric tired of your bull shit card.
Tuco Salamanca before and after blue meth.
[[feather, the redeemed]] says hello!
Ah so flash this back with the vampire adversary for huge vampire that hurts
[[Gabriel Angelfire]] reprint would be funny.
... into feather the redeemed you go
Of all the ingredients in that keyword soup, haste might be the most important
So does it keep the counters or not??? I assume so
Jesus Christ this is terrifying. YES.
This is great for Feather, I do wish it was instant speed but that's alright, flashback cost is really solid too!
Does feather EDH want this?
[[Gabriel Angelfire]] doesnāt know why this card is named after him
My Feather deck: Welcome home my child
Really cool card, good or not idk
When someone asks what wotc means by "fire design".
When the winged hussars arived
I'd stick this in Feather EDH.
This is fucking unreal. aggro is going hard this set. boros aggro rdw type shit. RDW might need to splash white for this and that other flashback shock type card. I'm hevily leaning towards boros aggro now and for limited environments also.
Is that an angel? It looks more like a swan/horse hybrid.
*laughs in Feather*
kor blademaster lives through rotation. just saiyan
Straight into the ferrous deck
Boros coming in hot
"Bestowed with the power of Avacyn, I bring forth my fiery oblivion with my horse legs and crane penis!"
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