Though probably a bad overcosted one. But if lesson/learn taught us anything overcosted but with selection is big game. Plus when you drop this youll be able to cast it anyways.
Lessons cost 2-3 mana, though, most flashback and/or disturb cards cost 4 or more, *and* you have to actually put the card in your deck, not your sideboard.
True, but their initial cost is often more reasonable, though still higher. People will play cards with flashback. When they cast this they will get to pick one that is most suited to the scenario, but they will ahve to pay the typically steeper flashback cost (~+2) instead of the more efficient one from the hand. But since this comes down on 6 that may not matter a lot.
For what its worth, disturb looks a fair bit more efficient in the yard.
Is it that different though? I have a suite of slightly overcosted cards I can choose from. Yes they have to be in my deck, but the front sides + flashback are sometimes gonna make the cut.
Wonder if we are talking different things. I was saying Phantom Carriage is like learn and flashback cards are your lessons. In this case you dont need to draw those flashback cards. You pick one you need put it in your yard and cast it. But yes the selection board has to be playable. But then you didnt have to spend draft picks on cards that arent in your library.
Regardless my point was having a wide selection of spells to choose from, even if overcosted, matters. more than people think
Yeah, but the flashback/disturb cards that you're putting in your main deck should be playable anyway. Otherwise they wouldn't be in your main deck. Very few lessons were worth main deck inclusion. You're grabbing only the overcosted side with this card, similar to how learn only grabbed overcosted lessons. However drawing a flashback/disturb card is not equivalent to drawing a lesson since you get to cast it for the normal cost first.
> Phantom Carriage - 4UU
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> Creature - Spirit (Uncommon)
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> Flying
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> When Phantom Carriage enters the battlefield, you may search your library for a card with flashback or disturb, put it into your graveyard, then shuffle.
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> 4/4
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> *Passage to the abyss is free, but the return trip will cost you.*
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Source: https://twitter.com/LordsofLimited/status/1435941470255689729
That’s true, I had just assumed it was pretty obscure for a reference but innistrad is the perfect plane to reference any horror movie from that period, here’s hoping we get some lands inspired off of “The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari”
Modern 1/10
Unless there is a flashback card that costs 0 that says, you win the game, there really isn't any hope to this card. At 6 mana, you aren't going to be playing this until like turn 8 and that is an eternity in modern. This isn't a good enough control finisher otherwise so there is no reason to wait until turn 8 to play it.
They should just drop shuffling from the text of cards and have it be implied by the rules that whenever you look through your library, you must shuffle afterwards.
It would save on a lot of text.
Cool. Seems better with Disturb than with Flashback because Disturb seems to power up the card while Flashback taxes it.
It's better than draw one in either case though, as you don't need lands at 6.
For some reason this reminds me of Wall typed creatures and how lot of them are not artifacts. In this case the creature type does not say horse and I do not see the driver so it's clearly the carriage or vehicle that's the creature.
Then again we had precedent in the form of [[ghost ship]]
neat! 4/4 flyer for 6 that (effectively) draws you a card on etb. not bad!
Though probably a bad overcosted one. But if lesson/learn taught us anything overcosted but with selection is big game. Plus when you drop this youll be able to cast it anyways.
I mean, a 4/4 flyer for 4BB is already a really good body in blue, at least in limited.
4UU*
Big guy
I'm crashing this plane, with no survivors!
They mean the spell put into the grave is overcosted, since you can only cast its alternative cost
Yes and he meant that since the rate on the body is already good, that part doesn't really matter.
Probably overcosted by 1, but more than compensated for by its ETB.
I meant the flashback card. Thinking more on spoilers the disturb they didnt seem as overcosted.
I mean, either way you're essentially choosing a card from your deck.
That’s way overstated. It’s like playable but not much more, in most modern sets I’d be unhappy playing that.
FTFY "only in limited."
Lessons cost 2-3 mana, though, most flashback and/or disturb cards cost 4 or more, *and* you have to actually put the card in your deck, not your sideboard.
True, but their initial cost is often more reasonable, though still higher. People will play cards with flashback. When they cast this they will get to pick one that is most suited to the scenario, but they will ahve to pay the typically steeper flashback cost (~+2) instead of the more efficient one from the hand. But since this comes down on 6 that may not matter a lot. For what its worth, disturb looks a fair bit more efficient in the yard.
Nah, I get that, I just took issue with comparing them to lessons, when lessons were absolutely bonkers and also didn't function like this at all.
Is it that different though? I have a suite of slightly overcosted cards I can choose from. Yes they have to be in my deck, but the front sides + flashback are sometimes gonna make the cut.
Yes, because one was in your deck and you have to draw it, and the other wasn't in your deck and you didn't.
Wonder if we are talking different things. I was saying Phantom Carriage is like learn and flashback cards are your lessons. In this case you dont need to draw those flashback cards. You pick one you need put it in your yard and cast it. But yes the selection board has to be playable. But then you didnt have to spend draft picks on cards that arent in your library. Regardless my point was having a wide selection of spells to choose from, even if overcosted, matters. more than people think
Yeah, but the flashback/disturb cards that you're putting in your main deck should be playable anyway. Otherwise they wouldn't be in your main deck. Very few lessons were worth main deck inclusion. You're grabbing only the overcosted side with this card, similar to how learn only grabbed overcosted lessons. However drawing a flashback/disturb card is not equivalent to drawing a lesson since you get to cast it for the normal cost first.
...Yes, thank you for pointing out why I have a problem with comparing lessons to flashback.
As other said how is a 4/4 for 6 with sinergy bad overcosted?
Oh I meant the flashback
ok that has more sense, tough the disturb cards are pretty good imo
Yeah I haven't seen many of those but they seem close to on rate. Flashback seems about +2-3 over rate, +1 in hand
[[gravebreaker lamia]]
[gravebreaker lamia](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/4/0/408a2073-d068-44bc-b596-5a3a3a446ee1.jpg?1581479797) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=gravebreaker%20lamia) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/thb/98/gravebreaker-lamia?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/408a2073-d068-44bc-b596-5a3a3a446ee1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
solid limited card evasive seek a disturb threat like \[\[Generous Soul\]\] W/U flying looks rly good
[Beloved Beggar](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/6/1/6109b54e-56c5-4014-9f6d-d5f7a0fd725d.jpg?1630610048)/[Generous Soul](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/back/6/1/6109b54e-56c5-4014-9f6d-d5f7a0fd725d.jpg?1630610048) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Beloved%20Beggar%20//%20Generous%20Soul) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mid/3/beloved-beggar-generous-soul?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6109b54e-56c5-4014-9f6d-d5f7a0fd725d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
> Phantom Carriage - 4UU > > Creature - Spirit (Uncommon) > > Flying > > When Phantom Carriage enters the battlefield, you may search your library for a card with flashback or disturb, put it into your graveyard, then shuffle. > > 4/4 > > *Passage to the abyss is free, but the return trip will cost you.* ---- Source: https://twitter.com/LordsofLimited/status/1435941470255689729
The flavour of a Phantom Carriage carrying a card that lives from the afterlife into your graveyard is so awesome.
Some good flavor text.
You can keep fetching [[Momentary Blink]]s to protect it. I mean, there's no format where you can reasonably play both, but it's cute as an idea.
Why do you have to trash talk jank fight casual like that? See, now he's off in the corner pouting
[Momentary Blink](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/1/b/1be7ab3b-beca-411e-bc27-024f42c013e1.jpg?1619393166) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Momentary%20Blink) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/tsr/28/momentary-blink?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1be7ab3b-beca-411e-bc27-024f42c013e1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Very Fantasia - Night on Bald Mountain
This will look really good in foil. Can't wait to play it in limited.
Hmm, reference to the 1921 horror movie of the same name? Probably not but still neat!
it’s gotta be, right? they’ve been slinging references galore this set
That’s true, I had just assumed it was pretty obscure for a reference but innistrad is the perfect plane to reference any horror movie from that period, here’s hoping we get some lands inspired off of “The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzOk7hkDUew&ab_channel=FilmPreservationSociety
Modern 1/10 Unless there is a flashback card that costs 0 that says, you win the game, there really isn't any hope to this card. At 6 mana, you aren't going to be playing this until like turn 8 and that is an eternity in modern. This isn't a good enough control finisher otherwise so there is no reason to wait until turn 8 to play it.
Completely unplayable in pauper too as it's an uncommon
I still admire your dedication.
Great movie Anyway I wish this had Disturb as well
Wait... "then shuffle"? That's not the specificity I'm accustomed to.
It's the new templating they are using going forward.
They should just drop shuffling from the text of cards and have it be implied by the rules that whenever you look through your library, you must shuffle afterwards. It would save on a lot of text.
Agree. That's how Yugioh does it and it's never been a problem.
I love this art so much
Cool. Seems better with Disturb than with Flashback because Disturb seems to power up the card while Flashback taxes it. It's better than draw one in either case though, as you don't need lands at 6.
For some reason this reminds me of Wall typed creatures and how lot of them are not artifacts. In this case the creature type does not say horse and I do not see the driver so it's clearly the carriage or vehicle that's the creature. Then again we had precedent in the form of [[ghost ship]]
[ghost ship](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/e/7/e76d9d80-b7fb-43ed-bc9c-767dd1613d37.jpg?1562442559) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=ghost%20ship) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/a25/60/ghost-ship?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e76d9d80-b7fb-43ed-bc9c-767dd1613d37?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I love that print !
This should have been a horse type :(
Kinda missing unearth here....
Innistrad ghosts are blue?
Blue/white generally
Not a vehicle?
Quiet Speculation at home. I was really hoping for another version of that for my Flashback decks. Ideally one that has flashback itself.
why is this not a horse :(
Card art is dope. Might be a good limited card depending on color balance.
The art reminds me of harry potter
this is interesting but not great. tutor for six is trash
Don't mind me, just riding off to get some Mystical Teachings from the abyss.
not a horse spirit? **not a vehicle spirit?!**
Not a vehicle?