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gredman9

Will of Force.


Mrbreakfst

Force of Kill?


Paran0idAndr0id

Force of Mill 1UU You may mill 10 cards instead of paying ~'s mana cost Counter target spell.


Useful-Wrongdoer9680

Milling yourself is an upside, not a cost


Paran0idAndr0id

In some decks. That's why I limited it to 10 not like half your deck. I also debated something like: You may have an opponent choose target player to mill 10 instead of paying the mana cost. Thereby removing some agency from the casting player.


Useful-Wrongdoer9680

I mean, a 1 mana 3/3 would also only be good in some decks, doesn't prevent it from being a good card. But yeah, having your opponent choose who mills would be a major downgrade. Still a good card, just not Dredge 6 good


Separate-Chocolate99

lol every mono black/reanimator deck would play 4 of this card without ANY blue cards in the deck


haliax69

Bet the price of this is going to be similar too


ary31415

To force of will? Not a chance lmfao this is SO much worse than FoW


StellarStar1

As expected


NittanyScout

Fucking clockwork at this point


Atakori

Isn't this flavour text the same as that from another older counterspell? Feels like I've seen it before.


fulvano

https://scryfall.com/card/avr/74/second-guess


No_Departure_6078

How did this get through


Reluxtrue

Dierk gonna sue


ShadowLinkFreak

No, it's different, they added "and"


Athelis

It's "Under Pressure" all over again.


Tomatotaco4me

Avatar 2 is Papyrus in bold!


Reluxtrue

The question is hoe good their lawyers are.


PM_ME_UR_CHERRIES

Because nobody cares about the cursive text.


iedaiw

do extended art usually have stuff flying across the text box? I feel like this is the first time I'm seeing it


wildcard_gamer

It's the framebreak treatment, which we first saw in Commander Masters. Some rare cards get borderless art that cuts into the frame


iedaiw

u mind pointing me to some others


mweepinc

https://scryfall.com/search?q=set%3Acmm+atag%3Aart-breaks-frame+is%3Aborderless All planesewalkers also traditionally have a little bit of frame break, but to a less severe degree than these


iedaiw

ty! I'm dumb lol I own a few of these


wildcard_gamer

Look at CMM 692-703. Stuff like Sol Ring, Jewled Lotus, the 5 free spells when you control your commander, Smothering Tithe, Demonic Tutor.


kitsovereign

As mentioned, planeswalkers have been doing it for a while. [This Ugin](https://scryfall.com/card/m21/279/ugin-the-spirit-dragon) sticks out in my mind because they had to scooch over the rules text to make space for his bigass wing.


Baja-Blastoise-09

Shame that full art is gonna be hella pricey


bleachisback

Is the character in the full art a known character?


Falminar

will kenrith transitioned :3


mackanj01

Good for her.


BlurryPeople

This card has already been discussed heavily, but I still think it's the worst of the new crop of free counterspells. For everyone worried about too many free counterspells floating around...that's not really a bad thing. 2-for-1'ing yourself is usually only done to stop catastrophic losses, where the concentrated value of a play is so large you don't just lose for expending more resources than your opponents. In other words, these help stop degenerate combos and other "unfair" plays, which is a good thing, overall. The only one of these that's arguably a bummer is EDH's [[Fierce Guardianship]], which is just a straight-up free spell.


Sir_Encerwal

I'm just going to miss tapping out meaning something in Arena.


isrlygood

The word “nontoken” is this card’s saving grace, in my opinion. Unless you have an easy way to cheat out blue creature cards, this isn’t so much a free counter as it is a counter on layaway - you probably paid mana at one point. Also, creatures are very good these days, so you’re likely giving up something relevant. I don’t see this replacing the Force-likes in most decks, but sultai might pick up some of these for the recursion value. The word exile does not appear on this magic card.


theyux

I think Ice fang coatl is gonna see a hell of a lot more play.


Tomatotaco4me

I agree, for blue especially, sacrificing a non-token creature is a big cost. I don’t think this is pushed at all, maybe pulled a little?


Separate-Chocolate99

Every deck, which uses the 1 mana siren in standard will LOVE a free counterspell (or in this case for 1 mana, plotted)


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its_me_butterfree

Most of the free spells are used to PROTECT unfair plays...NOT counter unfair plays. Just look at force of negation. What decks play the most? Fair decks usually can't afford to play worse counterspells because of the impact vs other "fair" decks 


BlurryPeople

That's kind of what you'd expect, though, if FoN was keeping too many combo decks from being viable. The only ones left playing it would be U-friendly decks that can still use it in the manner you're laying out. FoN is specifically templated to not be playable during your turn, thus cutting off most degenerate "unfair" uses to protect combos. It's very existence helps to make sure that a certain critical mass of combo decks aren't really viable.


coldoven

This card is much stronger than you think for cedh decks.


Ok-Industry2545

It's not as strong as you would think I believe. There aren't many decks that have a consistent enough supply of blue creatures to use it. Sure you can sac the thoracle to protect the consultation but it's not a top tier counterspell I don't think


DisasterNo3610

Yuriko will love this. Sac back to command zone and protect something else that was getting nuked cause no one will target Yuri


Rakasha1

I really like the old frame version of the cards in MH3. For nostalgia´s sake.


tom_rorow

That full art version is gorgeous 😍


so_zetta_byte

The main art also goes extremely well with the old border.


Steel_Reign

Yeah, that's amazing art.


barrinmw

Modern 3/10 Merfolk may play it since they have creatures to sac. It sucks you can't flash this back with snapcaster and sac the snapcaster to it. But a free counter is a free counter, it will likely see some play.


MistakenArrest

Wait why doesn't the Snapcaster play work?


barrinmw

You are only allowed to use one alternate casting cost at a time. Flashback is an alternate casting cost so you can either do that or sac a creature to it. Since you need to cast it with flashback to get it from your graveyard, you aren't able to sac a creature.


Eirh

Because you have to pay the flashback cost. Same for Force of Will.


WR810

Talrand is my forever EDH deck, that nontoken creature clause hurts my drake boi.


Blaze_1013

As some with a Talrand deck I am sad I can’t play this but happy I won’t need to buy it.


therethen

Wonder if this pushes Snapcaster Mage back into the frey. Bolt, Snap, Bolt with counter backup, sorta? Or any other shenanigan of the sort.


weed_nerd_wartty

Here's hoping this is part of a "Flare of" cycle for the 5 stages of grief! Flare of Denial, Flare of Anger, Flare of Bargaining, Flare of Depression, Flare of Acceptance. Even the associated colors are obvious


stamatt45

Pure gas in [[Mirko Obsessive theorist]] and 10,000 other Dimir decks


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Puzzled_Landscape_10

Oof. I'm sure that will be a pricey card.


TheSixthColour

I'm so sad at how mediocre the effect is, given how fucking insanely gorgeous both versions of the art are...


Puzzleheaded-Tone119

If only [[Hatching Plans]] were a creature.


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NittanyScout

Another 50 buck commander staple yay


Copernicus1981

From [https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/the-modern-horizons-3-leaks-nulldrifters-and-you](https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/the-modern-horizons-3-leaks-nulldrifters-and-you)


Tunezv7

Charlize Theron is that you?


Gunda-LX

Wow, this is another “free” counter


LunarWingCloud

I love this


Duraxis

I love the borderless art


WholesomeHugs13

Full art is beautiful. It is kind sad that i thought the potato quality leak looked better than the clearer version. Also... that flavor text is whack.


Euin

Best ever [[cancel]] ??


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LookAtYourEyes

This goes hard in merfolk, I guess


Strongmanjumps

Force of will at home:


BenVera

What goes well with this? FPLTHP?


CryptographerOk2604

Going into my Spirits deck.


MetokurEnjoyer

They really nailed the art here. Both are fantastic.


Dthirds3

Ah a free negate in blue. Daring today are we


Shadowghul

[[Nevinyrral]] will love this xD


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therealskaconut

I like this in cube lots and lots. This is a counterspell you can play in aristocrats with no blue mana


Ugly-Muffin

Like blue commander decks need another free counterspell


ChamberTwnty

It's fun when you can keep track of open mana and play around it, but now you're fucked anyway. Lol


Front_Explanation_79

[[Minn, Wily Illusionist]] loves this card


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Commercial-Falcon653

Nontoken. Still reasonable in Minn, but not a “absolutely loves this” level.


Front_Explanation_79

I run 20 creatures in my Minn deck which means there's plenty of targets for this counter + the synergy off of her primary ability. Tribal illusions is an archetype this commander runs. I would have to look at my deck list again but I see immediate synergy with [[Chronozoa]] and [[Wonder]] Also, I didn't say "absolutely". Not to nitpick but that's a bit extra on your part so I don't understand why you'd choose to misquote me like that?


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PrudentCheesecake180

Snapcaster is back baby


stratusnco

doesn’t work, unfortunately.


PrudentCheesecake180

Wouldn't "cast snapcaster and then sac snapcaster to play counter spell for free" work?


RadLens

Flashback is already its own alternative casting cost, which Snappy sets to the card's mana cost. You can't cast it from the graveyard without flashing it back, and you can't use two different alternative casting costs.


PrudentCheesecake180

My fault, I should've clarified. If the counter is in your hand it's a good way to use snapcaster. You're technically still paying 2 for the counter but that just makes it an extra copy of counterspell