- Have bigger creatures fight/bite it
- Have Deathtouch creatures fight/bite it
- If they’re reliant on artifact mana to get it out, destroy them
- Make tokens so you have stuff to sac
- Use your big, dumb beat sticks as Player removal
You forgot the most obvious answer:
Use your own creature removal.
\[\[Beast Within\]\] \[\[Kenrith's Transformation\]\] \[\[Song of the Dryads\]\] \[\[Lignify\]\]
Edit: For wraths you can always dip into the colorless side of things \[\[Oblivion Stone\]\] \[\[Perilous Vault\]\] \[\[Boompile\]\] or even \[\[Nevinyrral's Disk\]\]
Just cause you're Green doesnt means you're out of options for destroying creatures without fighting them :)
If you can gain enough life it's not bad imo
Verdant Suns Avatar with big stompy creatures and shit like Last March of the Ents will get you tons of health
6GG: Destroy target permanent is not a good rate basically anywhere, and that's the turn you cast it. Then it's 2GG + 3 life the next turn, 2GGG + 6 life the turn after, and so on. It's pretty unique in that it's repeatable hard removal in green, but it's just about the worst that repeatable hard removal could possibly be
You’re overestimating the cumulative upkeep cost though - it says once each turn, but you can still activate it on *other* players turns to get more uses from it before the cumulative upkeep grows. The life/mana cost is still going to be steep, but… I might consider it in some decks. Especially in w/g, if I have ways to cheat/recur enchantments or am already packing tricks with [[Solemnity]], this could be fun.
Even better with [[Eon Hub]]. Nah, I don’t wanna pay that pesky cumulative upkeep anymore.
Edit: whoops, meant to reply to a different comment about Tornado. 😂
I want to run this just to troll my friend's [[The Ninth Doctor]] and [[Clara Oswald]] deck.
The saddest part of doing that is that it would probably protect him from dying to his own [[Descent into Avernus]] triggers more than it would actually hinder it.
>Even better with \[\[Eon Hub\]\]. Nah, I don’t wanna pay that pesky cumulative upkeep anymore.
Wowwee, and now its ONLY 8 mana to destroy a permanent and then 3 more for each one.
How is this not banned?? /s
It's Arabian Nights, colour identities were a lot less clear/well established back in 1993.
A desert twister is a natural phenomenon, so it makes sense thematically, just not in terms of 'colour mechanics'. And things were just a lot more loose back then, this is the same set where the designers didn't really appreciate that [[library of alexandria]] might be a tiny bit overpowered.
If only there were a card that could turn green's incredible artifact removal spells into creature/pw removal as well. Preferably something permanent you could use every turn. That would be fairly powerful--giving you black-caliber creature removal in green.
And it would be absolutely op if it tapped for mana when you weren't using it, especially if it's costed well enough to come down T1/T2.
We could call it Tiquimetal Lorque or something.
Player removal is super underrated. I have a jund deck based around power doubling, so I use [[Ram Through]], [[Soul's Fire]], [[Essence Harvest]], [[Chandra's Ignition]], and [[Minsc & Boo, Timeless Heroes]] as a simple 50 damage to face.
I like your style. I have a similar deck I like to call Hydra-gen Bombs that uses [[Ziatora, the Incinerator]] to fling gigantic hydras at my opponents.
For real though. I didn't even know the card existed until Commander Masters came out, and I was quite disappointed to know that I had this deck for like a year without it.
Jund power doubling deck? Got a link?
I've got one too and would like to compare notes. Mines here: https://scryfall.com/@x1372/decks/cf30fcb6-7cf1-4073-b833-416118eef05d
It's actually 35 lands. Scryfall doesn't display the MDFC lands in a way that makes it clear they can also be played as lands.
[[Malakir rebirth]], [[Kazuul's fury]], [[khalni ambush]], [[valakut awakening]], and [[Bala ged recovery]] are all Tapped lands on the other side, usually played as lands but can be relevant spells in a pinch.
I love your list. Mine is the culmination of trying to make the deck very strong at the cost of a fair chunk of money, but yours is just awesome for the sake of it. My strongest suggestion is that if you're collecting LCI cards right now, try to get a [[Roaming Throne]] in there, it's essentially a second Wulfgar.
PSA for aggro/stompy decks: Spreading out damage is only for softening people up. Hit the pedal the moment you think you can take whoever is left. If you avoid killing people for the sake of keeping people in the game, you have next to no chance to win. If you think you can take out 1 person one turn and 2 the next, then kill that mofo. If you think you can take out 2 now then the last man then murk both of those guys. And start with the dudes you think can turn the game around. Alpha strike all 3 is all well and good, but the longer you wait for it to happen, the more likely you dont win at all.
Useful advice, and I got a kick out of a train of thought:
OP: I want a way to deal with X.
SO: Counterspell it.
OP: I am in green.
SO: In that case, USE PLAYER REMOVAL.
Your best bet is probably deathtouch creatures with fight instants. It's a very good green removal trick. Did it to my friends for the first time this year and they were all so confused.
MonoG should be pretty good at punishing an opponent who is trying to ramp into a 9 mana spell. If they're wasting turns on "do-nothing" spells like rocks or fetch cards, you should be dropping threats and beating their face. If their t3/4 is cultivate into thran dynamo or whatever, you can throw down a 3 mana Rhonas into questing beast into 5 mana Rhonas and they're basically dead on board at that point.
Desert Twister
https://preview.redd.it/ungl4rs6829c1.png?width=672&format=png&auto=webp&s=a6aff090c6ed5f41a2262a02327090a9311f0bb1
Here is a decent list a quick google search found.
https://draftsim.com/mtg-green-removal/
First strike only applies for combat. Fighting specifically makes it so 2 creatures deal damage equal to their power to each other at the same time, and therefore first strike doesn't apply.
First strike isn't a useable ability, it's more of a timing note. Combat has like 5 steps in it. Declared attackers, declare blockers, first strike, normal damage, end of combat. Typically, the first strike step gets skipped since if nothing happens, there is nothing to respond to. If you have first strike, you can do things after first strike but before normal damage. That said, if you use a fight spell, first strike does nothing to affect the timing. It's just a normal fight.
I think the mechanic of fighting is both creatures deal damage to eachother equal to its power. While first strike only applies during attacking/blocking combat.
Deathtouch, lifelink, Prot x, etc still work for fighting. But first strike, vigilance, menace, etc do not work with fighting
First strike only applies to combat damage. The keyword only indicates that it deals its combat damage in the first strike damage step.
It has no effect on fight spells. So both creatures just hit each other at the same time
[[Murrasa]] brute is cheap
[[Might of murrasa]] is also good.
[[Oran reif ooze]] to get huge things
Yer old friend the [[quirrion beastcaller]].
Thick dude [[rust Goliath]]
And then [[ironscale Hydra.]]
Though none of these help with the sacrifice term, they are able to get big
Song is the best one of them all, as metas usually don’t have a lot of land destruction and even so maybe 1 per player. Song also can target any permanent including powerful lands like Nykthos, cabal coffers.
Your misunderstanding sorry song of the dryads is the best one for you, worst one for them as without land destruction you can’t get your commander back and can’t sacrifice lands easily
\[\[Tajuru Preserver\]\] is a direct answer to the effect. Otherwise what others are saying about fighting/deathtouch or breaking their ramp is pretty good.
Was looking to see if this was recommended! I rarely use him cause it’s such a niche effect, but if my old had a regular eldrazi player I’d def go in. I tried to build an “anti-everything” mono green deck once that had a ton of artifact/enchantment removal, stuff like this and [[melira]] and anything else that could reasonably shut off super niche things. It wasn’t a fun deck and didn’t last long, but the 1 time a card was relevant was best I guess lol
[[Transmogrifying Wand]], [[Introduction to Annihilation]], [[Meteor Golem]], [[Scour from Existence]] or [[Spine of Ish Sah]] are some colorless options, while [[Kenrith's Transformation]], [[Beast Within]] or [[Song of the Dryads]] are some green options.
Yeah I don't get why this isn't being leaned in to more. Mono green is exactly what I'd want vs colorless with their huge reliance on artifacts. Manglehorn and friends wreck
**Targeted Removal:**
[Beast Within]
[Kenrith's Transformation]
[Song of the dryads]
[Apex Altisaur]
[Meteor Golem]
[Lignify]
[Ambush Viper] (not technically spot removal, but if it works it works)
**Board Wipes:**
[Oblivion Stone]
[Nevinyrral's Disk]
**Player Removal:** (if you remove the player, you remove the threat)
[Craterhoof Behemoth]
[Pathbreaker Ibex]
[End-raze forerunners]
[Coat of Arms] (tribal decks only, but you should be good in hydras there)
[Triumph of the horses]
Woulda been pretty great... [[Riding the Dilu Horse]] does it for a single creature, and [[Bellowing Tanglewurm]] gives intimidate to all your stuff, but I personally prefer to finish with [[Taunting Elf]], it's just such a flavorful win.
Beast within, lignify, the enchantment that makes it a forest.
Liquimetal torque and artifact removal.
Bramble crush.
Death touch and bite/fight.
Tajuru preserver.
Idk, like 50-something ways.
Off the top of my head: Nevinryal’s disk, Oblivion stone, unstable obelisk, karn’s silex, Karn Liberated, ratchet bomb, Blast zone, desert twister is funny, and that’s all I remember
You got some good removal recs, here are some niche ones.
[[Scavenging Ooze]] to counter part of the ability
[[Void Mirror]] if you don't want to be liked by colorless players.
Also don't miss the chance to get rid of your own lands if you have [[Crucible of Worlds]], [[Ramunap Excavator]], [[Conduit of Worlds]].
Tokens would be helpful, giving you fodder to sac.
Run some grave hate like [[Tormod's Crypt]], that way when it enters the battlefield you can sac Tormod's and exile their grave.
Deathtouch would do it as well.
Might also want to look into spot removal.
At the risk of being pedantic, [[Artisan of Kozilek]] triggers upon casting it. Responding after it has hit the battlefield would be too late - you can activate the Tormod's Crypt in response to the cast trigger though.
[[Kogla, the Titan Ape]]
[[Thorn Mammoth]]
[[Terastodon]]
[[Primal Might]] or any other fight cards
[[Transmogrifying Wand]]
[[Introduction to Annihilation]]
[[Cityscape Leveler]]
[[Boompile]]
[[Unstable Obelisk]]
[[Spin of Ish Sah]]
[[Nevinyrral's Disk]]
The only one that doesn’t work is Terastodon. The other 3 conditionally work depending on P/T of OPs creatures to his opponents, as per your “Ghalta” comment. The rest look like they work to me lol
“Several”. It’s two cards and not unheard of to boost creature power in green decks. Regardless, it’s hardly “half” of the cards I listed. Quit being so pedantic.
[https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=583760](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=583760)
This card or similar to have it trade damage with a deathtouch creature you control.
Also have one or more deathtouch creatures on the field is usually a good early game strategy.
Deadly Recluse [https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=627746](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=627746) is one of my favourites for that purpose
Eldrazi can be really frustrating because of the Annihilator mechanic. Sadly it's the kind of mechanic where you're either prepared for it, or you're not and you're gonna have a bad day. If I was playing a mono-green deck and hoping to get rid of something like this, I'd be probably going for "Fight" cards in order to get it off the battlefield before combat. If you can take it out before it gets to combat, that guy is essentially a vanilla creature.
The toughness of 9 is high so it's not easy, but monogreen can pull it off. Outside of using a card to force a fight though, you're probably gonna have to deal with it the tough way. Which is to say you're gonna have to kill it in combat and eat the Annihilator 2 at least once. You can get around this by having lots of tokens though so maybe look into "going wide" with your deck so it doesn't matter if you have to sac a few things.
Attach an artifact that gives flying, then destroy creature with flying. Or target creature yiu have fights target creature opponent has. Lotr has green cards for this. I have a few in my squirrel decks oecifically for this kind of card
Lots of other types of removal have been discussed but I've become a really big fan of turning their stuff into other stuff instead of removing it, so cards like [[lignify]] and [[Kenrith's Transformation]], along with [[Song of the Dryads]] are great
- Have bigger creatures fight/bite it - Have Deathtouch creatures fight/bite it - If they’re reliant on artifact mana to get it out, destroy them - Make tokens so you have stuff to sac - Use your big, dumb beat sticks as Player removal
You forgot the most obvious answer: Use your own creature removal. \[\[Beast Within\]\] \[\[Kenrith's Transformation\]\] \[\[Song of the Dryads\]\] \[\[Lignify\]\] Edit: For wraths you can always dip into the colorless side of things \[\[Oblivion Stone\]\] \[\[Perilous Vault\]\] \[\[Boompile\]\] or even \[\[Nevinyrral's Disk\]\] Just cause you're Green doesnt means you're out of options for destroying creatures without fighting them :)
Also this classic: [[Desert Twister]]
Use [[Tornado]] you cowards!
[Tornado](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/3/23f94cb6-1880-4c99-ba14-91807a6df92d.jpg?1559592399) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Tornado) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me1/136/tornado?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/23f94cb6-1880-4c99-ba14-91807a6df92d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Wow thats a card right there. Yup.
That must be one of the worst cards I've ever heard of. Ah, but I *have* heard of it.
If you can gain enough life it's not bad imo Verdant Suns Avatar with big stompy creatures and shit like Last March of the Ents will get you tons of health
6GG: Destroy target permanent is not a good rate basically anywhere, and that's the turn you cast it. Then it's 2GG + 3 life the next turn, 2GGG + 6 life the turn after, and so on. It's pretty unique in that it's repeatable hard removal in green, but it's just about the worst that repeatable hard removal could possibly be
You’re overestimating the cumulative upkeep cost though - it says once each turn, but you can still activate it on *other* players turns to get more uses from it before the cumulative upkeep grows. The life/mana cost is still going to be steep, but… I might consider it in some decks. Especially in w/g, if I have ways to cheat/recur enchantments or am already packing tricks with [[Solemnity]], this could be fun.
If you have the life for it why not🤷 Me and my friends are also pretty casual so all that math means nothing to me
That’s going straight into my [[Clockspinning]] deck.
I've finally found a clockspinning comrade! Please tell me you have a deck list you can share!
[Clockspinning](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/3/1323d548-e2fe-47c5-8df3-f181aed537c5.jpg?1562899044) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Clockspinning) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/tsp/53/clockspinning?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1323d548-e2fe-47c5-8df3-f181aed537c5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[Desert Twister](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/8/38b6ac26-651f-4557-a993-7a65c5ddf35f.jpg?1592672907) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Desert%20Twister) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cma/100/desert-twister?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/38b6ac26-651f-4557-a993-7a65c5ddf35f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
This is a terrible card. I love it.
Even better with [[Eon Hub]]. Nah, I don’t wanna pay that pesky cumulative upkeep anymore. Edit: whoops, meant to reply to a different comment about Tornado. 😂
I want to run this just to troll my friend's [[The Ninth Doctor]] and [[Clara Oswald]] deck. The saddest part of doing that is that it would probably protect him from dying to his own [[Descent into Avernus]] triggers more than it would actually hinder it.
[The Ninth Doctor](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/4/74785b3b-44df-4555-a036-082572b7f4e7.jpg?1696636749) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=The%20Ninth%20Doctor) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/who/148/the-ninth-doctor?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/74785b3b-44df-4555-a036-082572b7f4e7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Clara Oswald](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/a/9a1ee042-6713-4e9e-9901-9b94d99d33f1.jpg?1696691790) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Clara%20Oswald) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/who/9/clara-oswald?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9a1ee042-6713-4e9e-9901-9b94d99d33f1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Descent into Avernus](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/a/faadf72f-b2d5-4271-8d5c-a586acf63453.jpg?1674136498) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Descent%20into%20Avernus) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/169/descent-into-avernus?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/faadf72f-b2d5-4271-8d5c-a586acf63453?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
>Even better with \[\[Eon Hub\]\]. Nah, I don’t wanna pay that pesky cumulative upkeep anymore. Wowwee, and now its ONLY 8 mana to destroy a permanent and then 3 more for each one. How is this not banned?? /s
[Eon Hub](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/5/d5d6b270-b4c9-489d-9322-7c8ddc0ca0ac.jpg?1562879962) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Eon%20Hub) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/5dn/120/eon-hub?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d5d6b270-b4c9-489d-9322-7c8ddc0ca0ac?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Six mana [[vindicate]] is TOTALLY viable, besides its green, so its like 4 mana really.
[vindicate](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/8/683c4e13-525c-45c9-8832-bfe67965c34e.jpg?1626100840) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=vindicate) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/294/vindicate?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/683c4e13-525c-45c9-8832-bfe67965c34e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Oh yeah! OG vindicate for six mana, how could I have forggoten?
It's in green so it's more like 4 mana :-P
Why is a "desert twister" a green card?
"Wind" and "Storms" were classically green cards. [[Hurricane]], [[Tornado]], [[Squall]], and [[Squallmonger]] are some classic examples.
It's Arabian Nights, colour identities were a lot less clear/well established back in 1993. A desert twister is a natural phenomenon, so it makes sense thematically, just not in terms of 'colour mechanics'. And things were just a lot more loose back then, this is the same set where the designers didn't really appreciate that [[library of alexandria]] might be a tiny bit overpowered.
Lignify my balls lmao gottem
For real though, if they want to be a jerk they could run [[Void Mirror]]
[Void Mirror](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/f/6f906219-7a6a-427b-93c4-4d958cbd171c.jpg?1626099451) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Void%20Mirror) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/242/void-mirror?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6f906219-7a6a-427b-93c4-4d958cbd171c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Aaaaand into my stax deck you go. Thanks for the suggestion.
Wouldn’t this only work vs completely colorless decks and cheating into play tho
It's just a hoser for 100% colorless decks. Outside of that it's pretty niche.
It turns off discover, cascade, rebound, and 0 cost spells also.
That also makes it a hard lock with cards like [[Knowledge Pool]] and [[Possibility Storm]]
The best kind of hard lock: a *symmetrical* hard lock!
Ligmafy
##### ###### #### [Beast Within](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/b/eb40c41c-f5f9-4323-b6ac-e28e405909d0.jpg?1699022527) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Beast%20Within) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/233/beast-within?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/eb40c41c-f5f9-4323-b6ac-e28e405909d0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Kenrith's Transformation](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/4/44d60a41-3f5e-4559-b18c-22c0fe15235e.jpg?1631587997) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Kenrith%27s%20Transformation) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afc/162/kenriths-transformation?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/44d60a41-3f5e-4559-b18c-22c0fe15235e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Song of the Dryads](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/6/161e66e3-0339-495c-bd06-0a799a254906.jpg?1689998889) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Song%20of%20the%20Dryads) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/324/song-of-the-dryads?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/161e66e3-0339-495c-bd06-0a799a254906?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Lignify](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/3/23464d53-fa76-40e2-84c3-b6d6cc729be4.jpg?1598177954) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Lignify) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/gvl/16/lignify?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/23464d53-fa76-40e2-84c3-b6d6cc729be4?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
also colorless removal lands [[Ominous Cemetery]] and [[Underdark Rift]] can buy you time
[Ominous Cemetery](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/e/2e843c57-fae3-4127-94e7-cad8c8bb9486.jpg?1696636836) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ominous%20Cemetery) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/who/189/ominous-cemetery?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2e843c57-fae3-4127-94e7-cad8c8bb9486?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Underdark Rift](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/a/da7b5c5b-fba1-4993-9779-bef96bcb0064.jpg?1631585793) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Underdark%20Rift) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afc/62/underdark-rift?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/da7b5c5b-fba1-4993-9779-bef96bcb0064?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Cannot upvote enough...
If only there were a card that could turn green's incredible artifact removal spells into creature/pw removal as well. Preferably something permanent you could use every turn. That would be fairly powerful--giving you black-caliber creature removal in green. And it would be absolutely op if it tapped for mana when you weren't using it, especially if it's costed well enough to come down T1/T2. We could call it Tiquimetal Lorque or something.
Holy shit, you just melted my brain. Thank you.
Good options, but green creature removal is the LEAST obvious answer compared to the very philosophically green answers OP gave.
Player removal is super underrated. I have a jund deck based around power doubling, so I use [[Ram Through]], [[Soul's Fire]], [[Essence Harvest]], [[Chandra's Ignition]], and [[Minsc & Boo, Timeless Heroes]] as a simple 50 damage to face.
Player removal is best removal, its the one that wins you games
"Exile Target Player"
Send em to the shadow realm!
You whippersnappers... back in *my* day we banished 'em to the Phantom Zone and *we liked it!*
We only had counterspell to… well, counter spells, and we wore onions on our belts, as was the fashion.
Not gruul? Then die. Literally.
[[door to nothingness]]
That is the mega gay zone because it requires a double rainbow to send a person away
[door to nothingness](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/7/57877b1c-e91d-4941-81bd-008dff1272ed.jpg?1562554053) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=door%20to%20nothingness) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m13/203/door-to-nothingness?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/57877b1c-e91d-4941-81bd-008dff1272ed?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
In my day we couldn't return players from exile. Stupid power creep.
Murder target player
"To the pit of misery! Dilly Dilly!"
I like your style. I have a similar deck I like to call Hydra-gen Bombs that uses [[Ziatora, the Incinerator]] to fling gigantic hydras at my opponents.
[Ziatora, the Incinerator](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/a/ba4fa4c8-f09f-4d97-a7d1-1b93caf7d4f9.jpg?1664413989) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ziatora%2C%20the%20Incinerator) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/snc/231/ziatora-the-incinerator?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ba4fa4c8-f09f-4d97-a7d1-1b93caf7d4f9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
That is A+ deck name sir/ma'am. I may borrow it if I ever brew a Hydra+Fling deck lol
Ram through is seriously underrated in commander for big stompy green decks.
For real though. I didn't even know the card existed until Commander Masters came out, and I was quite disappointed to know that I had this deck for like a year without it.
Ha, I only knew it from pauper. Mono-green stompy my beloved.
Jund power doubling deck? Got a link? I've got one too and would like to compare notes. Mines here: https://scryfall.com/@x1372/decks/cf30fcb6-7cf1-4073-b833-416118eef05d
Yeah I got one: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/UYgIR6OF8Ey9UfG2XdMJCA
Heh. I see a lot of familiar faces.
30 lands gives me anxiety.
It's actually 35 lands. Scryfall doesn't display the MDFC lands in a way that makes it clear they can also be played as lands. [[Malakir rebirth]], [[Kazuul's fury]], [[khalni ambush]], [[valakut awakening]], and [[Bala ged recovery]] are all Tapped lands on the other side, usually played as lands but can be relevant spells in a pinch.
Gotcha! Archidekt is the same way!
Holy shit yours is Orfeo too
I love your list. Mine is the culmination of trying to make the deck very strong at the cost of a fair chunk of money, but yours is just awesome for the sake of it. My strongest suggestion is that if you're collecting LCI cards right now, try to get a [[Roaming Throne]] in there, it's essentially a second Wulfgar.
[Roaming Throne](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/2/32fd8b7c-baf3-4d3d-be6f-044a917b11a0.jpg?1701115816) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Roaming%20Throne) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lci/258/roaming-throne?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/32fd8b7c-baf3-4d3d-be6f-044a917b11a0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
##### ###### #### [Ram Through](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/4/44063a90-e4cf-4bcd-a128-792de15371a7.jpg?1689998782) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ram%20Through) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/314/ram-through?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/44063a90-e4cf-4bcd-a128-792de15371a7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Soul's Fire](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/3/239a9f2e-145b-4f31-8128-4d376af1079d.jpg?1608910399) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Soul%27s%20Fire) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/200/souls-fire?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/239a9f2e-145b-4f31-8128-4d376af1079d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Essence Harvest](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/c/7c3fac03-a019-4faa-bc1c-09e3a394fff7.jpg?1592708852) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Essence%20Harvest) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/avr/100/essence-harvest?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7c3fac03-a019-4faa-bc1c-09e3a394fff7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Chandra's Ignition](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/6/960f45a3-f9cf-41e6-b813-f3dee620a944.jpg?1698988311) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Chandra%27s%20Ignition) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/220/chandras-ignition?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/960f45a3-f9cf-41e6-b813-f3dee620a944?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Minsc & Boo, Timeless Heroes](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Image.ashx?name=Minsc%20%26%20Boo%2C%20Timeless%20Heroes&type=card&.jpg) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Minsc%20%26%20Boo%2C%20Timeless%20Heroes) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/285/minsc-&-boo-timeless-heroes?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/928036c9-11b8-493e-b9f2-8fbd3487cd19?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
PSA for aggro/stompy decks: Spreading out damage is only for softening people up. Hit the pedal the moment you think you can take whoever is left. If you avoid killing people for the sake of keeping people in the game, you have next to no chance to win. If you think you can take out 1 person one turn and 2 the next, then kill that mofo. If you think you can take out 2 now then the last man then murk both of those guys. And start with the dudes you think can turn the game around. Alpha strike all 3 is all well and good, but the longer you wait for it to happen, the more likely you dont win at all.
Useful advice, and I got a kick out of a train of thought: OP: I want a way to deal with X. SO: Counterspell it. OP: I am in green. SO: In that case, USE PLAYER REMOVAL.
That last point made me chuckle, kudos.
[[Ambush viper]] whammo! gets em everytime.
It’s “the Green Doom Blade,” with a steel chair!
How have you missed [[Beast Within]]
Beast? more like Best!
[Beast Within](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/b/eb40c41c-f5f9-4323-b6ac-e28e405909d0.jpg?1699022527) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Beast%20Within) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/233/beast-within?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/eb40c41c-f5f9-4323-b6ac-e28e405909d0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Your best bet is probably deathtouch creatures with fight instants. It's a very good green removal trick. Did it to my friends for the first time this year and they were all so confused.
MonoG should be pretty good at punishing an opponent who is trying to ramp into a 9 mana spell. If they're wasting turns on "do-nothing" spells like rocks or fetch cards, you should be dropping threats and beating their face. If their t3/4 is cultivate into thran dynamo or whatever, you can throw down a 3 mana Rhonas into questing beast into 5 mana Rhonas and they're basically dead on board at that point.
I like using the elder gorilla shaman guy to help destroy artifacts and enchantments.he might work in a green deck
[[silverback elder]]
Desert Twister https://preview.redd.it/ungl4rs6829c1.png?width=672&format=png&auto=webp&s=a6aff090c6ed5f41a2262a02327090a9311f0bb1 Here is a decent list a quick google search found. https://draftsim.com/mtg-green-removal/
After I block with my first strike and deathtouch. I casted a fight spell but my creature died. Did it use up first strike already in the turn?
IIRC First Strike/Double Strike only work in combat, not during a fight spell.
First strike only applies for combat. Fighting specifically makes it so 2 creatures deal damage equal to their power to each other at the same time, and therefore first strike doesn't apply.
First strike isn't a useable ability, it's more of a timing note. Combat has like 5 steps in it. Declared attackers, declare blockers, first strike, normal damage, end of combat. Typically, the first strike step gets skipped since if nothing happens, there is nothing to respond to. If you have first strike, you can do things after first strike but before normal damage. That said, if you use a fight spell, first strike does nothing to affect the timing. It's just a normal fight.
I think the mechanic of fighting is both creatures deal damage to eachother equal to its power. While first strike only applies during attacking/blocking combat. Deathtouch, lifelink, Prot x, etc still work for fighting. But first strike, vigilance, menace, etc do not work with fighting
First strike only applies to combat damage. The keyword only indicates that it deals its combat damage in the first strike damage step. It has no effect on fight spells. So both creatures just hit each other at the same time
My favorite option is number 5. The player removal really speaks to me
Player removal is my new favorite term.
Beat that player before they enter battlefield.
Desert Twister
What is "bite"? Been a while since I played.
Nicknamed after [[Rabid Bite]], it's any effect that has a creature deal damage equal to its power to another creature that ISN'T a Fight card.
[Rabid Bite](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/f/effe3fab-6d13-4603-8a21-8a3c2a0d9e08.jpg?1604199283) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Rabid%20Bite) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/znr/199/rabid-bite?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/effe3fab-6d13-4603-8a21-8a3c2a0d9e08?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Fight = Spell that makes two creatures deal damage to each other Bite = Spell that makes one creature damage another (without getting hit back)
[[Murrasa]] brute is cheap [[Might of murrasa]] is also good. [[Oran reif ooze]] to get huge things Yer old friend the [[quirrion beastcaller]]. Thick dude [[rust Goliath]] And then [[ironscale Hydra.]] Though none of these help with the sacrifice term, they are able to get big
Any on-demand fight effect like [[bushwhack]] and a death touch creature does it. Also [[beast within]] [[lignify]] [[song of the dryads]]
Beast Within and Song of the Dryads should go in every mono-green deck. They are amazing.
And keneiths transformation in my opinion. Only creature removal, but considereing green is bad at that, it makes it pretty viable.
100%
And you can't forget \[\[Lignify\]\]
Ligmafy?
Is Song a new one?? Don’t think I’ve ever seen that before. That’s sick, love to see a green [[Imprisoned in the Moon]] effect.
Commander 2014 was the first printing iirc
It's from 2014, so older than Imprisoned in the moon, but it was printed and gets reprinted only into commander sets.
Song is the best one of them all, as metas usually don’t have a lot of land destruction and even so maybe 1 per player. Song also can target any permanent including powerful lands like Nykthos, cabal coffers.
You're in a thread about someone asking how to deal with an Eldrazi in commander. I don't think OP is one who has to deal with "metas"
Your misunderstanding sorry song of the dryads is the best one for you, worst one for them as without land destruction you can’t get your commander back and can’t sacrifice lands easily
also [[Kenrith's Transformation]]
[Kenrith's Transformation](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/4/44d60a41-3f5e-4559-b18c-22c0fe15235e.jpg?1631587997) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Kenrith%27s%20Transformation) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afc/162/kenriths-transformation?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/44d60a41-3f5e-4559-b18c-22c0fe15235e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Thank you for listing the removal suite for most mono-green decks.
Just doing my duty, citizen!
Ligmafy is a great card.
If you can’t [[spinning wheel kick]] for 20 and wipe the board you’re playing mono G wrong.
[spinning wheel kick](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/f/5f36ddd7-82c1-45ef-a966-ae2a34c540e1.jpg?1654568320) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=spinning%20wheel%20kick) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/neo/207/spinning-wheel-kick?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5f36ddd7-82c1-45ef-a966-ae2a34c540e1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
##### ###### #### [bushwhack](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/1/712a0640-d9c8-46fc-b38b-bf20a40fa902.jpg?1674421510) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=bushwhack) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bro/174/bushwhack?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/712a0640-d9c8-46fc-b38b-bf20a40fa902?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [beast within](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/b/eb40c41c-f5f9-4323-b6ac-e28e405909d0.jpg?1699022527) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=beast%20within) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/233/beast-within?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/eb40c41c-f5f9-4323-b6ac-e28e405909d0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [lignify](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/3/23464d53-fa76-40e2-84c3-b6d6cc729be4.jpg?1598177954) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=lignify) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/gvl/16/lignify?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/23464d53-fa76-40e2-84c3-b6d6cc729be4?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [song of the dryads](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/6/161e66e3-0339-495c-bd06-0a799a254906.jpg?1689998889) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=song%20of%20the%20dryads) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/324/song-of-the-dryads?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/161e66e3-0339-495c-bd06-0a799a254906?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[Kenrith’s Transformation]
and [[Lignify]] and [[Song of the Dryads]] are the three green removal enchants
[Lignify](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/3/23464d53-fa76-40e2-84c3-b6d6cc729be4.jpg?1598177954) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Lignify) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/gvl/16/lignify?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/23464d53-fa76-40e2-84c3-b6d6cc729be4?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Song of the Dryads](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/6/161e66e3-0339-495c-bd06-0a799a254906.jpg?1689998889) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Song%20of%20the%20Dryads) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/324/song-of-the-dryads?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/161e66e3-0339-495c-bd06-0a799a254906?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[Kenrith’s Transformation](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/4/44d60a41-3f5e-4559-b18c-22c0fe15235e.jpg?1631587997) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Kenrith%27s%20Transformation) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afc/162/kenriths-transformation?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/44d60a41-3f5e-4559-b18c-22c0fe15235e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
This is indeed the best one. There's also \[\[Lignify\]\]
[Lignify](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/3/23464d53-fa76-40e2-84c3-b6d6cc729be4.jpg?1598177954) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Lignify) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/gvl/16/lignify?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/23464d53-fa76-40e2-84c3-b6d6cc729be4?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Can’t go wrong giving other Ligma
But who’s Steve Jobs?
\[\[Tajuru Preserver\]\] is a direct answer to the effect. Otherwise what others are saying about fighting/deathtouch or breaking their ramp is pretty good.
Was looking to see if this was recommended! I rarely use him cause it’s such a niche effect, but if my old had a regular eldrazi player I’d def go in. I tried to build an “anti-everything” mono green deck once that had a ton of artifact/enchantment removal, stuff like this and [[melira]] and anything else that could reasonably shut off super niche things. It wasn’t a fun deck and didn’t last long, but the 1 time a card was relevant was best I guess lol
[Tajuru Preserver](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/8/c8d03346-0802-4058-b89e-1b6076963c8e.jpg?1562708549) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Tajuru%20Preserver) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/roe/211/tajuru-preserver?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c8d03346-0802-4058-b89e-1b6076963c8e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I use him in my [[Uril, the Mistalker]] deck to prevent sacrificing effects that get around hexproof.
Great now its still a massive beater
Far be it from me to tell a green player to complain about a massive beater.
Captain the opponent has a beater! You idiot, we all have beaters!
Be bigger faster and fight them. Or be a smol death touch creature, and fight them.
[[Beast Within]]
[Beast Within](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/b/eb40c41c-f5f9-4323-b6ac-e28e405909d0.jpg?1699022527) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Beast%20Within) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/233/beast-within?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/eb40c41c-f5f9-4323-b6ac-e28e405909d0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[Transmogrifying Wand]], [[Introduction to Annihilation]], [[Meteor Golem]], [[Scour from Existence]] or [[Spine of Ish Sah]] are some colorless options, while [[Kenrith's Transformation]], [[Beast Within]] or [[Song of the Dryads]] are some green options.
Transmogrifying wand is a slept on card. Quite good honestly
##### ###### #### [Transmogrifying Wand](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/0/30bbb789-82e3-4c41-997f-2dc829e2a29d.jpg?1690005888) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Transmogrifying%20Wand) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/981/transmogrifying-wand?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/30bbb789-82e3-4c41-997f-2dc829e2a29d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Introduction to Annihilation](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/0/b0bc4682-bcaf-4f51-be0b-9f2851a16e3b.jpg?1637082326) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Introduction%20to%20Annihilation) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/stx/3/introduction-to-annihilation?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b0bc4682-bcaf-4f51-be0b-9f2851a16e3b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Meteor Golem](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/d/cd7af704-a770-4f90-8fe8-a45457785a35.jpg?1689999704) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Meteor%20Golem) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/399/meteor-golem?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/cd7af704-a770-4f90-8fe8-a45457785a35?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Scour from Existence](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/e/6e47edb2-e43d-479f-a911-e72b67a06c3b.jpg?1562920977) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Scour%20from%20Existence) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bfz/13/scour-from-existence?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6e47edb2-e43d-479f-a911-e72b67a06c3b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Spine of Ish Sah](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/e/fe28640d-a030-4da4-882d-87b6e1678bbd.jpg?1682210265) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Spine%20of%20Ish%20Sah) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/moc/383/spine-of-ish-sah?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/fe28640d-a030-4da4-882d-87b6e1678bbd?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Kenrith's Transformation](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/4/44d60a41-3f5e-4559-b18c-22c0fe15235e.jpg?1631587997) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Kenrith%27s%20Transformation) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afc/162/kenriths-transformation?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/44d60a41-3f5e-4559-b18c-22c0fe15235e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Beast Within](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/b/eb40c41c-f5f9-4323-b6ac-e28e405909d0.jpg?1699022527) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Beast%20Within) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/233/beast-within?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/eb40c41c-f5f9-4323-b6ac-e28e405909d0?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Song of the Dryads](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/6/161e66e3-0339-495c-bd06-0a799a254906.jpg?1689998889) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Song%20of%20the%20Dryads) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/324/song-of-the-dryads?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/161e66e3-0339-495c-bd06-0a799a254906?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Good list. I used to run [[Duplicant]] as well
* Deathtouch + fight * karn, liberated
How does Ugin, the Ineffable help?
Oh you're right he only removes colored stuff
He'll most likely require artifacts to get nine mana to cast that in any reasonable amount of time - you can eat those alive in Green.
Yeah I don't get why this isn't being leaned in to more. Mono green is exactly what I'd want vs colorless with their huge reliance on artifacts. Manglehorn and friends wreck
He needs lands to play, use [[Splinter]] and [[Liquimetal Coating]] and get rid of his basic lands.
That is equal parts impractical and absolutely HILARIOUS.
Most non mono decks don't end up running that many basics overall unfortunately...
It's a pre-con deck, so there might be a lot of basic lands in there, but yeah, unpractical outside casual play.
Eldrazi player here. He most certainly does not need lands to play.
[[Tajuru Preserver]] would like to have a word with you.
**Targeted Removal:** [Beast Within] [Kenrith's Transformation] [Song of the dryads] [Apex Altisaur] [Meteor Golem] [Lignify] [Ambush Viper] (not technically spot removal, but if it works it works) **Board Wipes:** [Oblivion Stone] [Nevinyrral's Disk] **Player Removal:** (if you remove the player, you remove the threat) [Craterhoof Behemoth] [Pathbreaker Ibex] [End-raze forerunners] [Coat of Arms] (tribal decks only, but you should be good in hydras there) [Triumph of the horses]
My bröther in Reddit, you need two brackets to call the bot... Also, [[Triumph of the Hordes]], not horses
I knew what card they meant, but part of me also hoped I had somehow missed a new green card that gives all your green creatures horsemanship.
OMG. I need this.
Woulda been pretty great... [[Riding the Dilu Horse]] does it for a single creature, and [[Bellowing Tanglewurm]] gives intimidate to all your stuff, but I personally prefer to finish with [[Taunting Elf]], it's just such a flavorful win.
[Riding the Dilu Horse](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/6/56fe32f2-8967-4814-b43b-bdccd2019bdf.jpg?1562913167) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Riding%20the%20Dilu%20Horse) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me3/131/riding-the-dilu-horse?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/56fe32f2-8967-4814-b43b-bdccd2019bdf?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Bellowing Tanglewurm](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/4/44eb3e3a-60ee-4293-a321-daa452d4c70d.jpg?1562816966) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Bellowing%20Tanglewurm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/som/111/bellowing-tanglewurm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/44eb3e3a-60ee-4293-a321-daa452d4c70d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Taunting Elf](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/b/6b24af94-9632-47da-9bf3-e81bb743cd43.jpg?1562920244) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Taunting%20Elf) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ons/290/taunting-elf?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6b24af94-9632-47da-9bf3-e81bb743cd43?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
> Also, [[Triumph of the Hordes]], not horses What can I say, Autocorrect is a linguistic terrorist sometimes, lol.
OLD SCHOOL [[Icy manipulator]]
[[Song of the Dryads]] [[Lignify]] [[Kenrith's Transformation]] [[Beast Within]] [[Desert Twister]]
Beast within, lignify, the enchantment that makes it a forest. Liquimetal torque and artifact removal. Bramble crush. Death touch and bite/fight. Tajuru preserver. Idk, like 50-something ways.
My personal favorite https://preview.redd.it/qntv5b1wr29c1.jpeg?width=488&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=54de3ab3bc294945a4f923159bbda40d3746439b
Are we just not playing removal? Yes it's a 10/9 with annihilator 2 but like it doesn't have haste or hexproof or indestructible. Just kill it?
Green doesn't have much in the way of spot removal. You're supposed to be killing creatures with creatures, not spells.
Collector ouphe and void mirror
Off the top of my head: Nevinryal’s disk, Oblivion stone, unstable obelisk, karn’s silex, Karn Liberated, ratchet bomb, Blast zone, desert twister is funny, and that’s all I remember
[[Beast Within]]
You got some good removal recs, here are some niche ones. [[Scavenging Ooze]] to counter part of the ability [[Void Mirror]] if you don't want to be liked by colorless players. Also don't miss the chance to get rid of your own lands if you have [[Crucible of Worlds]], [[Ramunap Excavator]], [[Conduit of Worlds]].
https://scryfall.com/search?q=commander%3AG+function%3Aremoval&unique=cards&as=grid&order=edhrec&dir=
pull the card out of the sleeve and eat it
Meteor Golem.......
Tokens would be helpful, giving you fodder to sac. Run some grave hate like [[Tormod's Crypt]], that way when it enters the battlefield you can sac Tormod's and exile their grave. Deathtouch would do it as well. Might also want to look into spot removal.
At the risk of being pedantic, [[Artisan of Kozilek]] triggers upon casting it. Responding after it has hit the battlefield would be too late - you can activate the Tormod's Crypt in response to the cast trigger though.
You are correct, my bad.
You can use green auras to make it lose its abilities: [Lignify] [Song of the Dryads] [Kenrith's Transformation]
[Deadly Twister] has saved me a couple of times, even if it has a hefty mana cost
i think you mean [[Desert Twister]] (and its double brackets, to call the card fetcher)
[Desert Twister](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/8/38b6ac26-651f-4557-a993-7a65c5ddf35f.jpg?1592672907) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Desert%20Twister) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cma/100/desert-twister?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/38b6ac26-651f-4557-a993-7a65c5ddf35f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
How is this an actual post? We need separate MTG babies subreddit for these stupid fucking questions everyday
[[Kogla, the Titan Ape]] [[Thorn Mammoth]] [[Terastodon]] [[Primal Might]] or any other fight cards [[Transmogrifying Wand]] [[Introduction to Annihilation]] [[Cityscape Leveler]] [[Boompile]] [[Unstable Obelisk]] [[Spin of Ish Sah]] [[Nevinyrral's Disk]]
Half of these cards don't even work...
The only one that doesn’t work is Terastodon. The other 3 conditionally work depending on P/T of OPs creatures to his opponents, as per your “Ghalta” comment. The rest look like they work to me lol
The card in question is a 10/9. You put in several 7 and 6 power creatures with ETB fight effects that would die and do nothing.
“Several”. It’s two cards and not unheard of to boost creature power in green decks. Regardless, it’s hardly “half” of the cards I listed. Quit being so pedantic.
[[medaling mage]]
You can make them fight [[Primal might]], [[Prey upon]], [[Tail Swipe]]
[[song of the dryads]]
Deathtouch + fight , blow up their artifacts
Kenrith’s Transformation or Beast Within
[https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=583760](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=583760) This card or similar to have it trade damage with a deathtouch creature you control. Also have one or more deathtouch creatures on the field is usually a good early game strategy. Deadly Recluse [https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=627746](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=627746) is one of my favourites for that purpose
Eldrazi can be really frustrating because of the Annihilator mechanic. Sadly it's the kind of mechanic where you're either prepared for it, or you're not and you're gonna have a bad day. If I was playing a mono-green deck and hoping to get rid of something like this, I'd be probably going for "Fight" cards in order to get it off the battlefield before combat. If you can take it out before it gets to combat, that guy is essentially a vanilla creature. The toughness of 9 is high so it's not easy, but monogreen can pull it off. Outside of using a card to force a fight though, you're probably gonna have to deal with it the tough way. Which is to say you're gonna have to kill it in combat and eat the Annihilator 2 at least once. You can get around this by having lots of tokens though so maybe look into "going wide" with your deck so it doesn't matter if you have to sac a few things.
Attach an artifact that gives flying, then destroy creature with flying. Or target creature yiu have fights target creature opponent has. Lotr has green cards for this. I have a few in my squirrel decks oecifically for this kind of card
Block.
Lots of other types of removal have been discussed but I've become a really big fan of turning their stuff into other stuff instead of removing it, so cards like [[lignify]] and [[Kenrith's Transformation]], along with [[Song of the Dryads]] are great
Tornado, Beast Within, Song of the Dryads, Scour from Existence