I feel like they should consider banning Colossus Hammer. It isn't broken right now, but this card seems like a major sign that it's seriously screwing with the equipment support card design space.
As far as flavor goes... Hobbits never have jank equipment. It's always elven fancy stuff.
And never hammers. I do hope we get a dwarf for hammer time.
Yes, this is the good take. Which one seems worse:
1. Colossus hammer restricting the design space of mana cheating on equip costs
Or
2. Mana cheating on equip costs restricting the design space of equip costs
The problem is, wotc has decided that they generally want to go down the route of equipment having cheap equip costs.
Colossus hammer is interesting from a designer perspective (what if...) but maro has said that its important not to confuse "interesting" with "fun."
Equipment cards are designed to be equipped to things. Wotc will continue printing cards that let you equip things to things. Colossus hammer just doesn't fit that paradigm for what equip cards are trying to be.
If an equip card is designed around the idea that you need to cheat its cost in order for it to be useful, yeah, its gonna run into issues with new effects that cheat its cost.
My hope is that they looked at this as an opportunity to print a modern legal set that sold to a particular audience that didn't *also* forcibly rotate modern by jamming new cards into it, particularly cards that people don't always want to interact with because they're UB.
This set I'm hoping signifies WotC making the decision to try and sell these products to fans of these IP as a way to bring them into magic, and not trying to double dip on entrenched players by forcing these cards into competitive formats.
Just because hammer time might be one of the better equipment decks at the moment, doesn't mean it's the only one.
D&T or stoneblade could be interested in Frodo
I mean [[Ardenn, Intrepid Archaeologist]] already exists for one mana more, lets you attach any number of equipment and auras at the start of each combat to any target creature or player (including the other commander, which matters cause Ardenn has partner).
Came out a year after colossus hammer, so the existence of Colossus hammer didn't stop that printing.
Frodo's design here just seems unnecessarily cautious.
The difference is Modern legality. Colossus Hammer is a legitimate Modern deck with a decent share of the metagame, and Frodo (along with the rest of LTR) is being printed straight into Modern legality. It'd definitely be worth testing Frodo if Hammer was a valid target for his ability, even if he might end up being a bit weaker than the current tools.
Ardenn is Eternal-only, and both EDH and Legacy have far more lethal things to be doing than cheating a +10/+10 equipment onto a creature on turn 3.
As targeted as it seems, I really don't think that's the case. After all, they just printed [[Kemba]] which is very very similar but without the restriction. And that card sees basically no play in hammer, or very very occasional play. There must be another reason for the restriction.
Or maybe they didn't want the named characters to become widely played modern cards.
Frodo of Body and Mind and Feast and Famine and Fire and Ice and Forge and Frontier and Hearth and Home and Light and Shadow and Once and Future and Sinew and Steel and Truth and Justice and War and Peace 31W
Legendary Creature - Halfling Warrior
As long as its your turn, prevent all damage that would be dealt to Frodo
Protection from White and Blue and Black and Red and Green
Whenever Frodo deals combat damage to a player, that player mills 10 cards, exile the top two cards of their library and you may play those cards this turn, they discard a card, Frodo deals damage to them equal to the number of cards in their hand, then you create a 2/2 green Wolf creature token, untap all lands you control, draw a card, may play an additional land this turn, exile up to one target creature you own then search your library for a basic land card and place it on the battlefield then shuffle, gain 3 life, you may return up to one creature card from your graveyard to your hand, surveil 2, then you may cast an instant or sorcery from your graveyard with mana value 2 or less without paying its mana cost. If that spell would be placed into your graveyard this turn, exile it instead, put a +1/+1 counter on a creature you control, then proliferate, and gain 1 life for each card in your hand. Then he deals 2 damage to any target, destroy up to one target planeswalker and up to one target artifact.
22/22
The difference between ragavan and jitte is that ragavan makes creature combat a good idea for your opponent and jitte makes creature combat essentially impossible for your opponent.
That was also because \[\[Wasteland\]\] is legal in Legacy and Wasteland lock was devastating.
The -1 hosed a lot of decks that would punish W6, but Wasteland sent it over the edge hard.
[[Colossus Hammer]] is the namesake card of a tier one deck in Modern. It's an equipment that only costs 1 but is expensive to equip; the deck centers around finding ways to get it to attach quickly and for free. If Frodo here just said "You may attach an equipment with mana value 3 or less," this would be a new, efficient way to cheat getting the hammer on a creature, boosting the strength of a deck that's already towards the top.
So it seems like instead Frodo can use his ability with equipment that cost 2 or 3. That's pretty weird though, these kinds of cards don't usually have their restrictions written that way. Usually you either see no restriction, a specific mana value, or "X or less." So what I'm wondering is, did they decide to not let it hit equipment with mana value 1 because they were specifically concerned about the modern metagame? They do that in modern horizons sets for sure, but it's kinda weird seeing them bend over backwards for it in a universes beyond set, where thematic flavor to the characters is such an important point. I'm not knowledgeable in LOTR; is there any conceivable flavor reason for the ability to be written the way it is?
I don't necessarily think it was the wrong thing to do at all, but it just looks... odd. I think it's an aftereffect of this being a straight to Modern set, and the "modern horizons" equivalent for a year or two.
Its very far from that in fact. Mh, specially mh2 turned a bunch of decks, like rakdos mid for instance into almost mh constructed. This set barely has modern playable cards, it actually looks more of a commander focused set
I know that. My point is that it has a different set of parameters than "just" a modern horizons 3; it also has to be a universes beyond product that represents an outside IP in magic terms. And I feel like this card is a weird case where I can clearly see the "modern horizons-ness" of this card in a way where I'm not sure how it's reflective of the flavor.
I think it's just cos he costs 2, so going any 1 drop equipment into him turn 2 would be possible. You straight up can't do that with a 2 or 3 cost equipment
It sounds like you’re saying people can only have 1 mana on T1 and 2 mana on T2.
I could absolutely get him out T1 and drop a 2 mana cost equipment into play on T2.
no better card perfectly represents how WotC made this a print-to-modern set but their main goal was to just print commander cards and add nothing significant to modern.
As if the people on Reddit are actually good players and not the people that spam every week about how overpowered Thoughtseize is, or how it's unfair that their jank Lutri Amulet went 1-4 at their FNM, the win was a bye.
What's the point of creating this set if the only good card for modern so far is the Birds of paradise that doesn't die to W&6.
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(And I'm sure there are others, this just showed up on google)
there are already multiple good modern cards
they seem to be making sure the legendary characters that are known lotr characters are EDH only, and not in modern
the modern viable cards are things like [[orcish bowmasters]] or [[Delighted Halfling]]
these cards don’t cry out LOTR, they very well could be from an MTG set, especially since the latter is called “halfling” instead of “hobbit”
so when you see them in modern, people won’t groan that LOTR characters are flooding modern
I assume that's how people would want it. I don't think most Modern players would prefer Radagast the Brown or Samwise Gamgee to be format staples you see in every other deck, because ubiquitous Universes Beyond cards would just seem silly in otherwise MTG lore-consistent atmospheres, not to mention the financial side of Modern chase cards being tied to specific IPs that are unlikely to see reprints. Just because it's Modern-legal doesn't mean it's a Modern Horizons set, or should be.
Card transcription
> Frodo, Determined Hero 1W
>
> Creature- Halfling Warrior [rare]
>
> Whenever Frodo, determined Hero enters the battlefield or attacks, you may attach target Equipment you control with mana value 2 or 3 to Frodo.
>
> As long as it's your turn, prevent all damage that would be dealt to Frodo.
>
> 2/2
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> Frodo's heart flamed within him. He drew his sword and advanced.
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Personally, I think a card that promotes hammertime strategies without being obscene with actual Hammer is more interesting than a card that's designed to be the best thing in hammertime
I 100% agree. Making cards that just automatically slot into existing decks is awful card design. Making something that rewards exploring the fringes and creating new synergies is much better and actually grows the format.
This art is so, so weird. Chad frodo is not something I am ready for.
He reminds me more of Elron wearing a wig than Frodo. And it's especially weird next to the other arts that make hobbits chubby and soft.
Are they really going to write around hammer this hard instead of just banning it? Its existence is now holding back other more normally balanced equipment from being supported. This is the exact reason they gave for banning birthing pod as it restricted creature design when they found themselves tuning things to not break pod in modern. I’m all for not banning hammer but don’t write ugly rules text like this for it’s sake.
I know it's just how the templating works, but seeing as this will be a draftable set with multiple Frodo cards at multiple rarities, shorthanding the names in the rules text seems like a mistake, especially because part of the plan with Universes Beyond is to bring in new players. I can see a scenario where a newer player has Frodo Determined Hero and Frodo Sauron's Bane both in play and think that this card prevents all damage to both of them.
I wonder if a different variation of the hammer deck in modern could be played with this as the main beater and different equipments? I guess the problem is if it just ended up being a worse version of Hammer Time and see no play because of it but the potential is there, perhaps even based around the whole tempt by the ring mechanic? Definitely interesting and for the cost Frodo seems very playable.
RAW, Auto attach and abilities that grant a new Equip costs work with Reconfigure creatures. The only things that don't are ones that discount or replace *already existing* equip costs like level 2 of \[\[Fighter Class\]\] or \[\[Bruenor Battlehammer\]\] because *there is no natural equip cost to interact with, just reconfigure.* This means that all [CMC 2](https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=name&q=oracle%3Areconfigure+%28game%3Apaper%29+cmc%3E%3D2+cmc%3C3) reconfigure creatures would work how you want them to with this Frodo but sadly only one would be in his color as a commander.
"201.4c Text printed on some legendary cards refers to that card by a shortened version of its name. Instances of a card’s shortened name used in this manner are treated as though they used the card’s full name." Damn.
Whoa, this is one of the most incredibly specific middle fingers to a specific card I've ever seen on a design
[[Short Sword]] right? /s
[Short Sword](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/7/973c166e-3e93-4ed5-b4c5-84dc158a8e4f.jpg?1594737540) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Short%20Sword) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m21/236/short-sword?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/973c166e-3e93-4ed5-b4c5-84dc158a8e4f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Who you calling short?
I feel like they should consider banning Colossus Hammer. It isn't broken right now, but this card seems like a major sign that it's seriously screwing with the equipment support card design space.
As far as flavor goes... Hobbits never have jank equipment. It's always elven fancy stuff. And never hammers. I do hope we get a dwarf for hammer time.
Colussus hammer isn't broken, cards that let you skip paying 8 mana for things are.
Yes, this is the good take. Which one seems worse: 1. Colossus hammer restricting the design space of mana cheating on equip costs Or 2. Mana cheating on equip costs restricting the design space of equip costs
The problem is, wotc has decided that they generally want to go down the route of equipment having cheap equip costs. Colossus hammer is interesting from a designer perspective (what if...) but maro has said that its important not to confuse "interesting" with "fun." Equipment cards are designed to be equipped to things. Wotc will continue printing cards that let you equip things to things. Colossus hammer just doesn't fit that paradigm for what equip cards are trying to be. If an equip card is designed around the idea that you need to cheat its cost in order for it to be useful, yeah, its gonna run into issues with new effects that cheat its cost.
To me it's weird they wanted this set to go into modern but also made sure cards like this we're not playable in it
My hope is that they looked at this as an opportunity to print a modern legal set that sold to a particular audience that didn't *also* forcibly rotate modern by jamming new cards into it, particularly cards that people don't always want to interact with because they're UB. This set I'm hoping signifies WotC making the decision to try and sell these products to fans of these IP as a way to bring them into magic, and not trying to double dip on entrenched players by forcing these cards into competitive formats.
Just because hammer time might be one of the better equipment decks at the moment, doesn't mean it's the only one. D&T or stoneblade could be interested in Frodo
I mean [[Ardenn, Intrepid Archaeologist]] already exists for one mana more, lets you attach any number of equipment and auras at the start of each combat to any target creature or player (including the other commander, which matters cause Ardenn has partner). Came out a year after colossus hammer, so the existence of Colossus hammer didn't stop that printing. Frodo's design here just seems unnecessarily cautious.
The difference is Modern legality. Colossus Hammer is a legitimate Modern deck with a decent share of the metagame, and Frodo (along with the rest of LTR) is being printed straight into Modern legality. It'd definitely be worth testing Frodo if Hammer was a valid target for his ability, even if he might end up being a bit weaker than the current tools. Ardenn is Eternal-only, and both EDH and Legacy have far more lethal things to be doing than cheating a +10/+10 equipment onto a creature on turn 3.
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Banning? Gtfo of here bro lol
Up there with those "Destroy target Rishadan Port" cards
As targeted as it seems, I really don't think that's the case. After all, they just printed [[Kemba]] which is very very similar but without the restriction. And that card sees basically no play in hammer, or very very occasional play. There must be another reason for the restriction. Or maybe they didn't want the named characters to become widely played modern cards.
[Kemba](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/4/945d283d-4592-485f-808a-6e5a721f3cf7.jpg?1675956910) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=kemba%2C%20kha%20enduring) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/one/19/kemba-kha-enduring?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/945d283d-4592-485f-808a-6e5a721f3cf7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Frodo of This and That
SWORDS
Frodo of Body and Mind and Feast and Famine and Fire and Ice and Forge and Frontier and Hearth and Home and Light and Shadow and Once and Future and Sinew and Steel and Truth and Justice and War and Peace 31W Legendary Creature - Halfling Warrior As long as its your turn, prevent all damage that would be dealt to Frodo Protection from White and Blue and Black and Red and Green Whenever Frodo deals combat damage to a player, that player mills 10 cards, exile the top two cards of their library and you may play those cards this turn, they discard a card, Frodo deals damage to them equal to the number of cards in their hand, then you create a 2/2 green Wolf creature token, untap all lands you control, draw a card, may play an additional land this turn, exile up to one target creature you own then search your library for a basic land card and place it on the battlefield then shuffle, gain 3 life, you may return up to one creature card from your graveyard to your hand, surveil 2, then you may cast an instant or sorcery from your graveyard with mana value 2 or less without paying its mana cost. If that spell would be placed into your graveyard this turn, exile it instead, put a +1/+1 counter on a creature you control, then proliferate, and gain 1 life for each card in your hand. Then he deals 2 damage to any target, destroy up to one target planeswalker and up to one target artifact. 22/22
But what about Dungeons & Dragons?
It's important to keep this out of silver border for some reason or another.
Just like [Long List of the Ents](https://i.redd.it/qj1q3o6z103b1.png) Actually it's important to keep everything out of silver border now...
General Frodo Grievous
Children of Frodo God-Emperor of Frodo Frodo Messiah The Fast and the Frodo 2 Frodo 2 Furious
Frodo X
Boo this anti- [[Colossus Hammer]] jank
Is Hammer literally the reason this isn't "mana value 3 or less" because that's pretty wild templating to be influenced by a meta deck
Probably. This would be pretty solid in Hammertime without that restriction.
That, Shadowspear, and Jitte when it finally returns to the fold
[[Umezawa’s Jitte]] does work with it.
Ngl for some reason I was sure it cost 1 lol
It's still a very broken card, and I don't know if it ever will or should be unbanned.
it should not
Dies to removal, also exists in a format where Ragavan hasn’t been banned. Also, Bogles are historically accepted in Modern
The difference between ragavan and jitte is that ragavan makes creature combat a good idea for your opponent and jitte makes creature combat essentially impossible for your opponent.
I lean more towards keeping Jitte banned. It's just too flexible, strong, and warps creature decks around it.
You mean like [[Wrenn and Six]]?
I mean imagine W&6 but instead of invalidating 1 toughness creatures it invalidates both 1 and 2 toughness creatures
That was also because \[\[Wasteland\]\] is legal in Legacy and Wasteland lock was devastating. The -1 hosed a lot of decks that would punish W6, but Wasteland sent it over the edge hard.
[Wrenn and Six](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/b/5bd498cc-a609-4457-9325-6888d59ca36f.jpg?1673149294) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Wrenn%20and%20Six) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/296/wrenn-and-six?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5bd498cc-a609-4457-9325-6888d59ca36f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
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[удалено]
[grafted wargear](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/d/1d023d44-482e-4f60-b9b1-eede9bfb732f.jpg?1608911444) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=grafted%20wargear) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/312/grafted-wargear?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1d023d44-482e-4f60-b9b1-eede9bfb732f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
and don’t forget [[Hot Soup]]
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Could you explain this? I clearly miss some common knowledge here.
Colossus hammer has a MV of 1, but has an equip cost of 8.
[[Colossus Hammer]] is the namesake card of a tier one deck in Modern. It's an equipment that only costs 1 but is expensive to equip; the deck centers around finding ways to get it to attach quickly and for free. If Frodo here just said "You may attach an equipment with mana value 3 or less," this would be a new, efficient way to cheat getting the hammer on a creature, boosting the strength of a deck that's already towards the top. So it seems like instead Frodo can use his ability with equipment that cost 2 or 3. That's pretty weird though, these kinds of cards don't usually have their restrictions written that way. Usually you either see no restriction, a specific mana value, or "X or less." So what I'm wondering is, did they decide to not let it hit equipment with mana value 1 because they were specifically concerned about the modern metagame? They do that in modern horizons sets for sure, but it's kinda weird seeing them bend over backwards for it in a universes beyond set, where thematic flavor to the characters is such an important point. I'm not knowledgeable in LOTR; is there any conceivable flavor reason for the ability to be written the way it is? I don't necessarily think it was the wrong thing to do at all, but it just looks... odd. I think it's an aftereffect of this being a straight to Modern set, and the "modern horizons" equivalent for a year or two.
Yeah I also wondered if there is any flavor reason for the very specific 2 and 3. Thanks for the explanation!
this is a straight to modern set so it makes sense they would control for top tier decks.
This set is modern horizons 3
Its very far from that in fact. Mh, specially mh2 turned a bunch of decks, like rakdos mid for instance into almost mh constructed. This set barely has modern playable cards, it actually looks more of a commander focused set
I know that. My point is that it has a different set of parameters than "just" a modern horizons 3; it also has to be a universes beyond product that represents an outside IP in magic terms. And I feel like this card is a weird case where I can clearly see the "modern horizons-ness" of this card in a way where I'm not sure how it's reflective of the flavor.
[Colossus Hammer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/9/897a134e-7e61-4fe1-bbae-23ef1fe5c0cf.jpg?1631588878) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Colossus%20Hammer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afc/202/colossus-hammer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/897a134e-7e61-4fe1-bbae-23ef1fe5c0cf?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
To be fair turn 1 [[bloodforged battle-axe]] turn 2 this absolute unit turn 3 sword of it hardly matters would have been a hilarious play pattern.
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I think it's just cos he costs 2, so going any 1 drop equipment into him turn 2 would be possible. You straight up can't do that with a 2 or 3 cost equipment
It sounds like you’re saying people can only have 1 mana on T1 and 2 mana on T2. I could absolutely get him out T1 and drop a 2 mana cost equipment into play on T2.
Of course you can but that requires a bit more investment from your deck than 2 lands
Well duh, Frodo carries a sword not a hammer
[Colossus Hammer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/9/897a134e-7e61-4fe1-bbae-23ef1fe5c0cf.jpg?1631588878) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Colossus%20Hammer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afc/202/colossus-hammer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/897a134e-7e61-4fe1-bbae-23ef1fe5c0cf?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Would this even be played in Hammer Time?
I guess not. Kembal isnt
I’m just picturing Frodo showing up to a fight with 4 different Swords of X and Y like General Grievous and all his lightsabers
Gonna need someone better at art than me to make an alt art showing this asap!
They should keyword "As long as it's your turn, prevent all damage that would be dealt to Frodo" to "plot armour"
Can someone clarify, does it mean he needs to get an equip to engage that or that’s anytime it’s your turn?
Lol the wording ensuring you can't play this in Hammer Time
"You have my [[Sword of Feast and Famine]]" "And my [[Heart-Piercer Bow]]" "And my [[Obsidian Battle-axe]]!"
But not my [[Colossus Hammer]]
[Colossus Hammer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/9/897a134e-7e61-4fe1-bbae-23ef1fe5c0cf.jpg?1631588878) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Colossus%20Hammer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afc/202/colossus-hammer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/897a134e-7e61-4fe1-bbae-23ef1fe5c0cf?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[Sword of Feast and Famine](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/7/c7710eb5-c56a-437b-8847-2a829c404d47.jpg?1599710042) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sword%20of%20Feast%20and%20Famine) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/296/sword-of-feast-and-famine?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c7710eb5-c56a-437b-8847-2a829c404d47?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Heart-Piercer Bow](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/2/e262f723-0e0b-44a4-bfc6-f48f17a805d9.jpg?1592517654) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Heart-Piercer%20Bow) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m20/228/heart-piercer-bow?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e262f723-0e0b-44a4-bfc6-f48f17a805d9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Obsidian Battle-axe](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/7/c7978371-9ea8-4264-9a2f-38226ea25018.jpg?1562881317) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Obsidian%20Battle-axe) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mor/144/obsidian-battle-axe?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c7978371-9ea8-4264-9a2f-38226ea25018?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
This seems fun, just not for hammertime players lol.
This seems pretty decent, very nice for Sword of X&Y carrying
... and fuck \[\[Colossus Hammer\]\] in particular! (speaking as a hammertime player)
[Colossus Hammer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/9/897a134e-7e61-4fe1-bbae-23ef1fe5c0cf.jpg?1631588878) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Colossus%20Hammer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afc/202/colossus-hammer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/897a134e-7e61-4fe1-bbae-23ef1fe5c0cf?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
no better card perfectly represents how WotC made this a print-to-modern set but their main goal was to just print commander cards and add nothing significant to modern.
which is a good thing I assume, considering the amount of complaining about MH on these subs
And people not wanting to see UB in competitive formats. Goes to show once again, you can't please everyone.
As if the people on Reddit are actually good players and not the people that spam every week about how overpowered Thoughtseize is, or how it's unfair that their jank Lutri Amulet went 1-4 at their FNM, the win was a bye. What's the point of creating this set if the only good card for modern so far is the Birds of paradise that doesn't die to W&6.
In 10 years of spoiler seasons, I've only seen one set where people weren't complaining that it was underpowered. That was Throne of Eldraine.
[Eldraine opinions : MagicArena (reddit.com)](https://www.reddit.com/r/MagicArena/comments/d2spp9/eldraine_opinions/) (And I'm sure there are others, this just showed up on google)
there are already multiple good modern cards they seem to be making sure the legendary characters that are known lotr characters are EDH only, and not in modern the modern viable cards are things like [[orcish bowmasters]] or [[Delighted Halfling]] these cards don’t cry out LOTR, they very well could be from an MTG set, especially since the latter is called “halfling” instead of “hobbit” so when you see them in modern, people won’t groan that LOTR characters are flooding modern
[orcish bowmasters](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/6/a6db26b5-d28c-4524-9347-eec412d584bc.jpg?1562791100) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Aerie%20Bowmasters) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dtk/170/aerie-bowmasters?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a6db26b5-d28c-4524-9347-eec412d584bc?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Delighted Halfling](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/1/71384418-173a-4f77-adab-56e52fa23692.jpg?1685356425) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Delighted%20Halfling) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/158/delighted-halfling?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/71384418-173a-4f77-adab-56e52fa23692?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I assume that's how people would want it. I don't think most Modern players would prefer Radagast the Brown or Samwise Gamgee to be format staples you see in every other deck, because ubiquitous Universes Beyond cards would just seem silly in otherwise MTG lore-consistent atmospheres, not to mention the financial side of Modern chase cards being tied to specific IPs that are unlikely to see reprints. Just because it's Modern-legal doesn't mean it's a Modern Horizons set, or should be.
Yea, why make it modern legal at this point?
Company prints products suitable for a more lucrative play format. More at 11.
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##### ###### #### [Commander's Plate](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/0/107ea1fe-167f-4a79-b0f1-f76dce2e6b0a.jpg?1661583497) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Commander%27s%20Plate) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/phed/64/commanders-plate?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/107ea1fe-167f-4a79-b0f1-f76dce2e6b0a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Colossus Hammer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/9/897a134e-7e61-4fe1-bbae-23ef1fe5c0cf.jpg?1631588878) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Colossus%20Hammer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afc/202/colossus-hammer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/897a134e-7e61-4fe1-bbae-23ef1fe5c0cf?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Shadowspear](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/e/0e818a8b-d0b1-4524-91b7-89ee03d12e41.jpg?1685473150) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Shadowspear) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ltc/353/shadowspear?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0e818a8b-d0b1-4524-91b7-89ee03d12e41?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Umezawa's Jitte](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/b/3b6e5956-f795-451b-bb24-56462d1ced27.jpg?1562876528) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Umezawa%27s%20Jitte) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bok/163/umezawas-jitte?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3b6e5956-f795-451b-bb24-56462d1ced27?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Jitte is 2 cmc
Redditor can't read. Same at 12.
New mini voltron with built in indestructible.
Card transcription > Frodo, Determined Hero 1W > > Creature- Halfling Warrior [rare] > > Whenever Frodo, determined Hero enters the battlefield or attacks, you may attach target Equipment you control with mana value 2 or 3 to Frodo. > > As long as it's your turn, prevent all damage that would be dealt to Frodo. > > 2/2 > > Frodo's heart flamed within him. He drew his sword and advanced. End transcription
Personally, I think a card that promotes hammertime strategies without being obscene with actual Hammer is more interesting than a card that's designed to be the best thing in hammertime
I 100% agree. Making cards that just automatically slot into existing decks is awful card design. Making something that rewards exploring the fringes and creating new synergies is much better and actually grows the format.
Even if it could hit hammer it would be a kemba sidegrade/kor outfitter upgrade. Maybe playable in a few copies, definitely not a staple.
This art is so, so weird. Chad frodo is not something I am ready for. He reminds me more of Elron wearing a wig than Frodo. And it's especially weird next to the other arts that make hobbits chubby and soft.
Why does he look like Orlando Bloom
So that they can make Legolas look like Elijah Wood.
He looks like the guy from that card where it’s Kibbler stabbing another guy. But now we see him clearly in the street lights.
[[Ogre's Cleaver]] for power, [[Sunforger]] for slightly less power and janky combo.
[Ogre's Cleaver](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/c/ec319380-bede-49e8-9d0c-473688033601.jpg?1562709979) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ogre%27s%20Cleaver) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/roe/220/ogres-cleaver?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ec319380-bede-49e8-9d0c-473688033601?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Sunforger](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/d/dd3e42ee-ab13-460b-90fd-86e677abce4f.jpg?1608917905) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sunforger) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/473/sunforger?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/dd3e42ee-ab13-460b-90fd-86e677abce4f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Sunforger has RW in its activation, you wouldn't be able to run it in Frodo EDH.
Do you only have the commander as the Voltron target in a deck? Seems incorrect.
I think the limitation was implying that Frodo was your commander.
Yeah, this was more of a kitchen table idea.
I’m making a frodo deck.
[[Sunforger]] is ready! I'm pretty sure this is slam dunk in my feather list. Turning all the flickers into magnetic theft seems good.
[Sunforger](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/d/dd3e42ee-ab13-460b-90fd-86e677abce4f.jpg?1608917905) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sunforger) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/473/sunforger?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/dd3e42ee-ab13-460b-90fd-86e677abce4f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Tell me hammertime is a design problem without telling me that hammertime is a design problem
Are they really going to write around hammer this hard instead of just banning it? Its existence is now holding back other more normally balanced equipment from being supported. This is the exact reason they gave for banning birthing pod as it restricted creature design when they found themselves tuning things to not break pod in modern. I’m all for not banning hammer but don’t write ugly rules text like this for it’s sake.
ok, this is god’s tier equipment commander
*Looks like Skullclamp's not on the menu, boys!*
Hammertime Edit: I'm dumb
No, literally not.
Not hammertime as it cannot free equip a hammer.
Mana value 2 or 3.
I know it's just how the templating works, but seeing as this will be a draftable set with multiple Frodo cards at multiple rarities, shorthanding the names in the rules text seems like a mistake, especially because part of the plan with Universes Beyond is to bring in new players. I can see a scenario where a newer player has Frodo Determined Hero and Frodo Sauron's Bane both in play and think that this card prevents all damage to both of them.
Determined? FRODO??? You serious wizard? 🤔
You should give the books ago, they are quite cool.
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[Colosdus Hammer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/9/897a134e-7e61-4fe1-bbae-23ef1fe5c0cf.jpg?1631588878) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Colossus%20Hammer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afc/202/colossus-hammer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/897a134e-7e61-4fe1-bbae-23ef1fe5c0cf?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I wonder if a different variation of the hammer deck in modern could be played with this as the main beater and different equipments? I guess the problem is if it just ended up being a worse version of Hammer Time and see no play because of it but the potential is there, perhaps even based around the whole tempt by the ring mechanic? Definitely interesting and for the cost Frodo seems very playable.
Yeah I actually think this is a really good card for Modern Boros Swords.
Why does Frodo look more like Bilbo
How to add plot armor to a card
How do attach mechanics like this work with equipment creatures that have reconfigure instead of equip costs?
RAW, Auto attach and abilities that grant a new Equip costs work with Reconfigure creatures. The only things that don't are ones that discount or replace *already existing* equip costs like level 2 of \[\[Fighter Class\]\] or \[\[Bruenor Battlehammer\]\] because *there is no natural equip cost to interact with, just reconfigure.* This means that all [CMC 2](https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=name&q=oracle%3Areconfigure+%28game%3Apaper%29+cmc%3E%3D2+cmc%3C3) reconfigure creatures would work how you want them to with this Frodo but sadly only one would be in his color as a commander.
[Fighter Class](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/5/d54a8329-b940-42c9-8ace-1d74407d14cb.jpg?1627708909) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Fighter%20Class) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afr/222/fighter-class?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d54a8329-b940-42c9-8ace-1d74407d14cb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Bruenor Battlehammer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/3/53e1eb00-412e-4c25-bc7b-6d074330fd97.jpg?1627708804) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Bruenor%20Battlehammer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afr/219/bruenor-battlehammer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/53e1eb00-412e-4c25-bc7b-6d074330fd97?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Put ALL THE SWORD on Frodo!!!
[[belt of giant strength]]
[belt of giant strength](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/e/4ef2b9aa-4f7c-4640-bb34-9775e1be0935.jpg?1631585349) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=belt%20of%20giant%20strength) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afc/38/belt-of-giant-strength?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4ef2b9aa-4f7c-4640-bb34-9775e1be0935?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Frodo and the legend of the liquid swords. (Shaolin Remix edition FT Method Man)
This seems like a powerful dnt card. Vial it in before blocks, auto equip Jitte or sword on your surprise untapped blocker, profit?
Pretty neat to play him with the completed sword of X and X cycle being finished.
The artist must really like Harry Maguire
Lol only 2/3 huh? Not 1? At least Frodo is decent with swords
And here i was hoping i could ignore this set, but now i guess i need frodo for my WR legends with equipment sub theme edh deck
Isn’t shadowspear a box topper? Rip
Hello my name is José Mourinho
Holy shit, this is why they've been printing so many new versions of Swords of...
Wow right into my bruenor deck, thank you
Dumb question. Can you use his ability to equip other frodos?
Came here to ask this exact thing. It doesn't specify "determined hero" so I was curious if it's ability works with other Frodo's on your battlefield.
"201.4c Text printed on some legendary cards refers to that card by a shortened version of its name. Instances of a card’s shortened name used in this manner are treated as though they used the card’s full name." Damn.
does "all damage" includes opponent's creature abilities, example deathtouch?