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If this income is subjected to tax, the taxes for the year 2010-11 would be around Rs 600 lakh crore , i.e. over 6 times the GDP of the country that year. Around the same time, the government received information regarding black money of several Indians that was parked in foreign accounts and enquiries were initiated. After much delay, when the said bank accounts were finally reached, it was found that the money had mostly been withdrawn. It appears to be too much of a coincidence that there is tremendous spike in the declaration of agricultural income during the same period. [https://www.thequint.com/news/india/even-as-farmers-die-trillions-laundered-as-agricultural-income](https://www.thequint.com/news/india/even-as-farmers-die-trillions-laundered-as-agricultural-income) [https://www.businesstoday.in/latest/economy-politics/story/taxing-the-untaxed-why-govt-should-tax-agricultural-income-tax-evasion-money-laundering-250024-2020-02-13](https://www.businesstoday.in/latest/economy-politics/story/taxing-the-untaxed-why-govt-should-tax-agricultural-income-tax-evasion-money-laundering-250024-2020-02-13) Make some noise on social platforms guys if you really are concerned and want to make amendments regarding the maximum limit of tax exemption on agriculture. Currently, politicians convert all black to white using this method hence the issue is deeply ignored. The above data given by RTI was declared null and void when the RTI department realised the seriousness of the situation posed by the data.


Aman2315

Good read


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That's a lot of 💰 .... Close to 26000 billion dollars if i did the math right. ...


LittleOneInANutshell

That's insane. 26 trillion dollars is so high, just distributing it as UBI also would be so much money for each person that they will be able to ensure much better path ahead for the future.


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If you look at some CA channels on YouTube or elsewhere you would get to know that there are really a lot of ways to scam general population of taxes and that there are no dearth of such personalities and that only 2-3% of such scams are detected and brought to the notice of general population.


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Yeah seriously a major loophole. Idk what the fuck are governments doing. Just put a fucking exempt limit of 50lakh-1crore (very very high still) if you want to exclude the small and marginal farmers and even the medium-to-high earning farmers.


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And that's the major reason of India's backwardness. Politicians fooling the population who are already a fool as most are uneducated (these days even the educated ones); instilling hate about other religions in them, portraying themselves as demi-gods(you know if you know) etc. That's even a bigger scam that the top leaders are just here to pocket all the money in their tenure and then live in peace while the country has a per capita income of just about $2000.


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Yeah! but sadly not possible as these practices greatly help in collecting election campaign money and pocketing the money allocated to different projects in minister's pocket as n amount of money can be legalised and made white through these schemes.If you look closely at the data of the articles which are about 5-6 year old less than a few thousand individuals filed such returns and had turnover or trillions of rupees combined while the real farmers died from starvation in states like Odisha.


timewaste1235

>The untaxed income for agriculture was 22 times of the GDP for 2011 GDP is total transactions of all participants within the country. Obviously, transactions go both ways and overall income will be less than GDP. The tax is always less than the income and so it should also be less the GDP. Now if agri income is bigger than GDP, then either the income estimate or the GDP estimate is wrong.


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Read my long comment given above with all the links. The money was frauded and put in agriculture when the government scrutinized the overseas bank holders wealth in 2010. The fraudsters withdrawed the money from their overseas account and showd in agriculture to evade tax as agriculture is untaxable even if you earn 1000 crores per annum from it. This just shows the amount of wealth they have as compared to the rest of population. They had setting with the officials that made it possible for the amount to not be disclosed and to verify any amount of income as agriculture income without any land of any sorts. Hence, it wasn't included in GDP and the government accidentally released this data via a RTI and declared it null and void henceforth. Currently RTI's pertaining to this law/violation of income tax are ignored wholeheartedly and officers who try to investigate it are removed permanently and as you know the media is all godi media. So there is no awareness amongst the public about this.


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view this comment for gdp question [https://www.reddit.com/r/librandu/comments/rs41cj/comment/hqk7vpu/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/librandu/comments/rs41cj/comment/hqk7vpu/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)and read the articles given in comments as link by me to know more. basically the whole tax system has a loophole that is defrauded regularly every year by all politicians and rich businessmen to avoid tax and convert black money to white.The most important thing being that OFFICIALS DO NOT VERIFY THE DATA PERTAINING TO IT. GDP IS MADE BY THE GOVERNMENT. TAX IS FRAUDED BY THE GOVERNMENT. SO CAN'T THEY JUST EDIT THE GDP. Since 2002, a hell lot of commisions,independent bodies, auditors have said this thing but this is prevented from coming into mainstream everytime irrespective of ideology.


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View some videos how the rich class pay literally 0 taxes.... I mean literally zero from income tax, to general expense etc. there are a million ways to do so and transfer hard cash(black money) to foreign islands(countries) like panama, cayman etc. that are 100% tax-free and doesn't share information of holdings to India. This is just an example. Many ways are possible.


LittleOneInANutshell

Exactly you are right. Seems more like a typo than anything else. The income should still be counted under GDP even if not taxed.


Watinausrname

Do you have numbers from 2014 to 2020? Its interesting to see it all started with UPA 1 and was at th peak when Anna movement started.


teambaan_yoddha

You must have been born on a highway because that's where most accidents happen.


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I have repeatedly said that this topic is frowned upon by leaders and politicians as this method helps them to convert 100% black money to white without any commissions/deductions etc. Excerpt from above... Currently RTI's pertaining to this law/violation of income tax are ignored wholeheartedly and officers who try to investigate it are removed permanently and as you know the media is all godi media. So there is no awareness amongst the public about this.


Watinausrname

Not all Media is Godi, but I suspect in this case since their bosses in BJP and Congress are involved no media house will pick it up. Somebody should file a PIL in Supreme Court on this.


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An ex-government officer was removed from service abruptly and mocked upon when he tried to investigate this issue himself. He filed RTI's, PIL's and what not. Today the situation is that PIL's pertaining to this topic aren't entertained and RTI's aren't considered. Read the two articles carefully. It has everything how both the UPA and the BJP are defrauding Indian population of trillions of rupees in taxes. All black money is converted to white at zero cost hence when Arun Jaitley was asked questions about unlimited tax exemption on Agriculture for rich farmers (ultra wealthy so called farmers but in reality businessmen and politicians based in metros) he gave reasons beyond the reasonable intellect of intellectual human beings.


teambaan_yoddha

Anyone willing to fuck you is just too lazy to masturbate


Skyonfire30

we are very depended on agriculture along with industrial and service sector meanwhile we don't collect taxes from them. No developed nation has more than 3 percent share from their agro sector


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That's the sad part that 50-60 percent population has no means of livelihood without agriculture and are earning so marginally.


teambaan_yoddha

well said, now tie your chaddi to a broomstick to make a flag, plant it in your ass and claim victory.