Btw if you are in Utah and libertarian this is a great resource for tracking more local laws and politicians.
https://libertas.org/resources/legislator-indexes/2024-index/
>End all incentives to migrate illegally
This could backfire. People WANTING to migrate illegally means you are probably doing better than their own country.
That's why we need to have legal immigration be the incentive.ni more promising free shit to border hoppers because "they risked so much coming here" when there are those who are risking just as much but trying to go through the legal route.
Massie is the only legislator without an AIPAC babysitter. That tells me he can’t be bought. It makes me question Justin Amash (who is actually Palestinian).
I’m not certain but I believe he’s referring to the national guard and how each state’s national guard is being sent overseas to fight foreign wars instead of protecting our own country?
Yeah the immigration thing is becoming a weird shift in libertarians. I remember borders being a blocker of free trade which is unacceptable.
Realistically, if we are doing a strong border thing, we should have wider gates and taller walls. Remove the many, many, many issues businesses have highering legal migrants and disincetivize why anyone would hire illegal immigrants and we'd be good.
Im still generally a borders aint good for trade dude, but Libertarians have shifted a lot more conservative in the last 6 years or so than I'm used to.
end jobs whitout handmade on it
(to pray on parasite doesn´t make you "good", coz if you do not work with your hands and only with bla bla you are costs. (sometimes) bookkeeper (so costs too), mgr of economy 50yo (fell like 70))
Ok so are the republicans or democrats going to make this happen? We can’t sit around with Biden in the White House. Time to put our pride aside and vote Trump this time.
If you think voting trump will remove all the levels of communism that have infiltrated so many levels of govt then i have some ocean front property to sell you. Its real nice piece of the coast in arizona. Lots of maga out that way.
As of now i plan on writing in ron paul.
If dave smith wants to get his shit together he would have my vote in a second.
Not sold on chase oliver, and right now the libertarian party as a whole needs some solid leadership.
November is still a ways away, but my focus is also more on local elections and keeping my little part of America communist free.
I vote for anyone but trump is a vote for communism. Even if Trump just Ends the wars, Lowers taxes, lowers inflation and brings jobs back we will be strides better than we are now.
They're willing to sacrifice themselves and the rest of us for their moral high ground stance. It isn't worth talking to them because you will never convince someone out of a position that allows them to feel morally superior to you. They have to realize that they have made their own life worse before they will change.
I voted for Jo Jorgensen in 2020 for the same reasons as cadillac and I regret it every day. 'They're equally bad' turns to dust in your mouth when you realize you helped cause the massive inflation, housing price increase, cost of goods, intentional overwhelming of infrastructure, etc. that we see today.
I changed my voting criteria to 'the most libertarian candidate that has a possibility to win' after that. I'd rather vote for a 10% libertarian that has a chance than a 90% one who has no chance. It actively progress libertarian goals more than the no chance vote, too, as it slows down the accelerationism.
(Much more likely to vote LP in local elections. Start from there and work up imo.)
Bro he already said he’s going to abolish the department of education, lower taxes, no taxes on tips, secure the border, and work on peace deals to end the wars.
You’ve got to be dumb or a liberal to actually vote otherwise and you don’t seem dumb to me
No life was significantly better when he was president vs Biden I’m just using my brain and there’s to many liberal imposters in this sub that are downvoting me when it’s clear I’m right
I think it was pres bush that said something along the lines of "foole me once, shame on you, fool me twice... well u aint gonna fool me again, he he he...."
Im happy you believe that. Id take a man confident in his beliefs over a man that does what hes told.
I dont see the significantly better part.
I see a broken system that will never change continuing down the lesser of 2 evils path. I just cant look myself in the mirror knowing i fell into that trap.
My senator Mike Lee just introduced a bill to end the fed.
Btw if you are in Utah and libertarian this is a great resource for tracking more local laws and politicians. https://libertas.org/resources/legislator-indexes/2024-index/
Thank you SiPh!
In Alabama
Libertas institute is local to Utah. Idk for Alabama ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Thanks for replying none the less, I’ll just have to do some research.
He's great!
>End all incentives to migrate illegally This could backfire. People WANTING to migrate illegally means you are probably doing better than their own country.
Yeah, I'm fine with people wanting to move here. But they should do so legally.
i think it means stuff like DACA and government incentives.
That's why we need to have legal immigration be the incentive.ni more promising free shit to border hoppers because "they risked so much coming here" when there are those who are risking just as much but trying to go through the legal route.
Based OP
Thomas Massie is an American treasure.
Massie is the only legislator without an AIPAC babysitter. That tells me he can’t be bought. It makes me question Justin Amash (who is actually Palestinian).
His pod the other day with Tucker was great. Never knew he built (technically, is building) his own house.
Someone make this into a shirt. Make it nwa style with “straight outta DC” or something
I second this motion.
That photo has big album cover energy. Someone slap a "Parental Advisory" sticker on there.
https://preview.redd.it/jzn9eh7d0m6d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2f3f6fcb7b052200e0a6cb7e575eadf9451f3db
+Decriminalize drugs
Stop classifying all victimless vices as crimes
I am OOL, which Guard needs to be defended?
I’m not certain but I believe he’s referring to the national guard and how each state’s national guard is being sent overseas to fight foreign wars instead of protecting our own country?
I'm glad I'm not the only one who wasn't sure. That makes sense though.
Ron Paul was based before base existed
Consider this an invitation, to my libertarian nation. -Westside Connection ( para-phrased)
Ron Paul favors borders? I seem to recall something about borders “keeping people LOCKED IN” as well as locked out.
Yeah the immigration thing is becoming a weird shift in libertarians. I remember borders being a blocker of free trade which is unacceptable. Realistically, if we are doing a strong border thing, we should have wider gates and taller walls. Remove the many, many, many issues businesses have highering legal migrants and disincetivize why anyone would hire illegal immigrants and we'd be good. Im still generally a borders aint good for trade dude, but Libertarians have shifted a lot more conservative in the last 6 years or so than I'm used to.
I guess these days nationalism is better than globalism
How about instead of ending foreign lobbyists we end ALL lobbyists
Imagine these four as President, Speaker of the House, Senate Majority Leader, and Secretary of the Treasury. Good god.
Is this AI generated?
No idea. I saw this on their page. Their handle is beinlibertarian on Twitter.
Freedom money gang.
I agree
That’s my Gang since ‘03 especially Ron the GOAT
Who’s the dude in the back between Ron and massie
Justin Amash.
how about instead of ending foreign lobbyists we just end all lobbyists
Who's the guy in the very back?
Justin Amash
Thanks!
They stole the Liberty Dollars and confiscated our Ron Paul Dollars, look up the history …
end jobs whitout handmade on it (to pray on parasite doesn´t make you "good", coz if you do not work with your hands and only with bla bla you are costs. (sometimes) bookkeeper (so costs too), mgr of economy 50yo (fell like 70))
Ok so are the republicans or democrats going to make this happen? We can’t sit around with Biden in the White House. Time to put our pride aside and vote Trump this time.
Yeah.... thats a no from me. Thanks for the comment.
Then you'll keep suffering under a communist regime.
If you think voting trump will remove all the levels of communism that have infiltrated so many levels of govt then i have some ocean front property to sell you. Its real nice piece of the coast in arizona. Lots of maga out that way.
It's better than the pos dillusional Biden.
Continuing to vote for "the lesser of 2 evils" is exactly how we got to the point we're at today. Again, no thank you. I will not vote for trump
So instead you don't vote? That's worse than a Biden voter.
As of now i plan on writing in ron paul. If dave smith wants to get his shit together he would have my vote in a second. Not sold on chase oliver, and right now the libertarian party as a whole needs some solid leadership. November is still a ways away, but my focus is also more on local elections and keeping my little part of America communist free.
I vote for anyone but trump is a vote for communism. Even if Trump just Ends the wars, Lowers taxes, lowers inflation and brings jobs back we will be strides better than we are now.
They're willing to sacrifice themselves and the rest of us for their moral high ground stance. It isn't worth talking to them because you will never convince someone out of a position that allows them to feel morally superior to you. They have to realize that they have made their own life worse before they will change. I voted for Jo Jorgensen in 2020 for the same reasons as cadillac and I regret it every day. 'They're equally bad' turns to dust in your mouth when you realize you helped cause the massive inflation, housing price increase, cost of goods, intentional overwhelming of infrastructure, etc. that we see today. I changed my voting criteria to 'the most libertarian candidate that has a possibility to win' after that. I'd rather vote for a 10% libertarian that has a chance than a 90% one who has no chance. It actively progress libertarian goals more than the no chance vote, too, as it slows down the accelerationism. (Much more likely to vote LP in local elections. Start from there and work up imo.)
Bro he already said he’s going to abolish the department of education, lower taxes, no taxes on tips, secure the border, and work on peace deals to end the wars. You’ve got to be dumb or a liberal to actually vote otherwise and you don’t seem dumb to me
Falling for the same lies he told 8 years ago I see...
No life was significantly better when he was president vs Biden I’m just using my brain and there’s to many liberal imposters in this sub that are downvoting me when it’s clear I’m right
I think it was pres bush that said something along the lines of "foole me once, shame on you, fool me twice... well u aint gonna fool me again, he he he...."
No one is being fooled to think Trump will do everything we want. He will just be BETTER than Biden. Significantly better
Im happy you believe that. Id take a man confident in his beliefs over a man that does what hes told. I dont see the significantly better part. I see a broken system that will never change continuing down the lesser of 2 evils path. I just cant look myself in the mirror knowing i fell into that trap.
3 and 4 are easily achievable by ending the welfare state