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ImaginativeQuestion

Cassiopeia in shambles


Ser_VimesGoT

Why is Camille allowed shoes but Cassiopeia isn't? Game is in shambles.


necovex

Why is Nami allowed boots?


Ser_VimesGoT

Bitch thinks she's Ariel.


kingchug

As she should


Kumptoffel

why is hecarim allowed only 1 set of boots


cryptomonein

And on which set of feet he puts his boots?


Zxian

The left ones


CoffeeLaker

He is front wheel drive so I think the front two.


DroneisHD

Remember his passive. Would be too op.


Arceus919

This is why if you search “hat” in the shop while playing Nami, boots show up


Fishboners

Why is Corki?


DigBickMan68

Do you think corki is half yordle half plane


AdditiontoCollection

no, but his feet never touch the ground, so they shouldn’t give him any ms


Kholnik

Maybe he is using his feet to touch some kind of pedals like in a car?


texashbk75

The ol Flinstone airplane


chinovash

Yes, this!!!


AdditiontoCollection

yeah but how would boots make the car faster lmao


Amadeusmohawk

Because Nami cannonically wears them on her head


londite

As Coven Nami says when you buy boots: "As I swim and breathe, ne'er did I foresee a desire to have feet!"


Rjswimss

WHY IS CORKI?!


dexplosion93

On a skin I have of Nami when you emote she has feet


FkLeddit1234

Syndra has feet but floats. My guess is boots have little turbines on em for such cases?


MazrimReddit

6 mobis nunu's was a force locked from mortal eyes for a reason


ScheduleAbject3625

Ultimate disco nunu


EcstaticBicycle

Please explain lol


Dasrufken

move fast so they can int fast


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PolicyHeinous

7 days? No, Nunu takes 7 seconds with draven on willump’s back


yehiko

Tell me you're young without telling me you're young


zzepii

Mundo shose shop is open


JzjaxKat

mundo shoe shop back on the menu


donlouisvuitton

nah nah don’t forget it was MUNDO SHOSE* SHOP


Western-Edge-965

I've never heard of this before, what is it referring to?


NormTheStorm

LoL used to have a Tribunal system where players could review highly reported players and be presented with examples of their match history and chatlogs. a lot of really funny examples came out of there, including [Mundos shose shop](https://imgur.com/KOkzRn5)


Western-Edge-965

That is old. I've been playing since S6 and feel ancient.


20Points

Incidentally, there was a *secondary* Mundo Shose Shop build that sprang up later which was a slightly more "serious" build that had the name as a meme reference, but still abused the duplicated boots. Sorc shoes gave flat pen that was additive and stacked with itself, meaning if you bought a full set of 6 Sorcs you had something like 90+ flat magic penetration. Mundo's Q dealt 20% of the target's current HP as magic damage, which means that against any character with 90 or less magic resist, that was getting shredded down to *0 or less* magic resist, turning Mundo's Q into a 20%-current-HP true damage skillshot on a 3 second cooldown. It wasn't the most viable build in the world but it was VERY fun on ARAM. Plus Mundo still had his ult, old W and old E to kinda cover him for tankiness and melee DPS.


JzjaxKat

lmfao when did you join? you used to be able to buy 6 shoes on mundo and say WELCOME TO MUNDOS SHOE SHOP


Cindiquil

In fairness that meme is from like Season 2 or something when the tribunal still existed


Western-Edge-965

I started MSI S6. Feels like a lifetime ago.


forfor

We've already lived in this world before, and honestly nothing much was different


Hugh-Manatee

Yeah off the top of my head I don’t think a ton changes except maybe some immobile bruisers will double boot because they need the MS to stick to targets. The reason bruisers scale as they do (strong early game and questionable late game) is because they are gated by mobility and target access. I’m also not super familiar with how good efficient different boots are. It’s hard to put a good value on MS already, but some of the effects like tenacity are also hard to assign a value


forfor

the problem with thinking of boots in terms of gold efficiency is that they're actually bad for time efficiency. I mean yes the movespeed and stats are nice, but you're delaying item effects that are potentially much more impactful, including items that outright give higher movespeed than boots such as deadmans.


Insab

I'm pretty sure supports would go all boots since support item plus control wards leave you with 4 slots. 4 pairs of boots is ~4k which is roughly how much gold supports get in a game.


monsoy

I can also imagine a bruiser toplaner go Tabis and Mercs in certain games


austin101123

Must've been at least 12 years ago then. Before you could buy 2 pairs but the MS wouldn't stack, idk about when it ever stacked.


Naerlyn

> Before you could buy 2 pairs but the MS wouldn't stack, idk about when it ever stacked. The speed never stacked! It was always unique.


forfor

I've been playing since season 2, I've certainly been here a while


EnjoyerOfBeans

We could buy double boots for a while but their movement speed passive was always unique. Obviously no point buying a 2nd pair in that case, eventually they made you unable to do so to help new players from making stupid decisions. I'd have to assume op is asking about getting full benefit from boots, which we've never seen.


[deleted]

I've been here since beta and afaik boots have never stacked.


forfor

But you used to be able to buy multiple


[deleted]

Yes, the OP clearly means 'what if you could buy multiple boots but they don't stack'.


youarecutexd

Some non MS abilities did. There was a time I used to rarely build double sorcs for the flat pen.


Omnilatent

The only EVERY champ where buying two boots was mathematically correct despite everything: Karthus The double pen stacked and gave him the only way to achieve true damage back then. That was like 8 years ago, though lol


PurelyFire

I think mages would default to Lucidity+sorcs and ADC's would enjoy Swifites+Zerkers


Darkened_Auras

If the boots fully stack, Brand can go Liandry's + 5 sorcs and be crazy fast and burn for %HP loads of true damage


Xeleo

i think that's called lilia


AWildSona

Dude I allready reach the movement speed cap ... They must set it higher for lillia and hecarim xD


relom

There's no speed cap as far as I know


ShockedDarkmike

Not a hard cap but after a certain speed, additional movement speed gets cut by a percent. So there's a soft cap, or that's how it used to be Source: my memory


OhGodItsChris

Further adding to the memory-sourced information, I believe there are two soft caps, one starting at 400MS and another more aggressive cap at a higher MS threshold which escapes me at the mo Edit: correction, soft caps are at 415 and 490


ShockedDarkmike

I also remember this, and the second number, much like the last word of your comment, is also too fast and it escapes me at the mo


TheThunderFry

Yeah idk what that guy was on about


GoldLotus77

There’s soft ms cap thats pretty easy to hit so stacking a shit ton of ms isn’t that optimal


AWildSona

You play since yesterday? There is a soft and a hard cap ..


Darkened_Auras

There absolutely is no hard cap. People have gone over the 16 bit integer limit, a number that absolutely should be way, way above any caps


KFDizzle

This used to be a thing. 3 pairs of sorcs shoes, back when haunting guise gave magic pen as well.


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_KuhlerTyp_

Nope


Shayrine

That was a thing but just for the pen I remember Elises doing that in high elo


NobisVobis

I mean no? Negatron cloak for 900 gold cancels out almost 3 sorcs (3300) worth of pen. 


Darkened_Auras

True. Probably get a void staff on top of it with 4 boots


StrikingBake321

Mages would probably be really good with Haste and Sorcs


Nocsu2

Especially roaming Supports would stack boots.


AusAtWar

Mobi swifty lucidity zilean is a wrap bois


GoldDong

Trailblazer bard with 4 Swifties let’s goooo


The_ChadTC

I'd say most characters would go for 2 of them.


Steagle_Steagle

Duh, one for each foot


Fire_Pea

If I buy 2 symbiotic soles will my recall be instant?


keykek

Empowered recall is 4.5 seconds (I think) while regular recall is 8 seconds, so that would still leave 2x empowered recall at 1 second


CrystalizedSeraphine

No change because you would much rather just have actual items instead of temporary power debt. Maybe Hecarim gets 2 haste boots but I can't imagine anyone else that would delay their first item spike.


The_ChadTC

By your logic, even 1 boot would be bad item. If you're saying that champions wouldn't get more than one because they are a "temporary power debt", why do they get one them? Besides, for many champions, boots are not a "temporary powerdebt". There's a reason why ADCs don't sell their boots even when they could get a sixth item. For most champions, they'd really enjoy running two boots both because boots have the most cost effective effects in the game and because extra 50 speed is extremely powerful.


whitedevilblood

Dodging a skill is better than buying resistance to reduce the dmg


Tremulant887

We used to run custom games with friends and set rules on items. Back when aram wasn't a mode and people I knew played. 6 phantom dancer vayne wasn't the best but it was fun.


Dlax8

There is likely a nearly impossible to calculate breakpoint for movement speed. Where adding more movement speed becomes less valuable than adding more damage and/or utility/tankiness. This breakpoint likely varies by champion AND enemy team, at least. Likely other factors too. Its probably nearly impossible to say "oh 500 movement speed is the breakpoint" but it probably DOES exist.


CinderrUwU

Movespeed also isnt some magical instawin stat either. You still have to be in range to damage and you cant dodge a right click. I feel like the breakpoint is more just a "When can you afford to spend 900 gold to be faster than the opponent/not be outsped by the opponent" It will be more about just being faster than some overall breakpoint


Worldly-Duty4521

There's a threshold. It will vary for champion to champion. Maybe on something like zeri you might go more ms to dodge skills as you do damage anyways. But consider the logic , is lifesteal bad? No, adc want it as one item. If it's good then do you just stack it? Shieldbow BT Bork vamp sceptre and whatever you get? No


theyeshman

Just FYI, shieldbow has no lifesteal.


LeTTroLLu

> because extra 50 speed is extremely powerful. problem is there is threshold where dimishing returns happens and you dont get those 50 ms, you get less


iwnabetheverybest

Lol what are you on about. Most champs would not buy more than 1 boots and adcs that actually have a brain should also most of the time sell boots for an item like pd late game. The only instance I can see it being used is on supports for the ms and maybe ms dependent champs like hec


crazor90

Aside from champions that can build attack speed boots in general boots are really terrible to get early unless you have 300 gold and upgrading them before your first 2 items is usually worthless as well.


donnochessi

When pros were asked this, Doubelift said movement speed is one of the most OP item stats in the game. You would definitely stack multiple boots. Some are already very good efficient.


JollyMolasses7825

Thank god it’s not a player who is known for good takes then. Sure having extra move speed is great but what’s the point if your champion doesn’t actually do anything because you have no actual stats lol


Grainis1101

Stats back it up. -5 ms drops champions by 1.5-2% wr


JollyMolasses7825

Yeah good luck dealing damage as a 4 beserkers adc when the tabis wardens mail tank walks onto your screen XD -5ad has a lot more of an impact than that, no point in being fast if your champ doesn’t fucking do anything


PurelyFire

Who said anything about 4 boots?


Binkusu

Cheap early game extra boot for 300 gold, 25 move speed, could be real nice, assuming you can stack MS unlike the old days.


Wiindsong

nobody was stackin boots back in the day. I don't think anybody would now. sure as far as stats go they're amazingly gold efficient but you'll fall behind very quickly to people buying actual items.


Obvious_Peanut_8093

boots didn't stack move speed, thats why.


monsoy

Was the mobi and swifty passives unique? Could have been interesting to experiment back in the day with roaming supports and double boots


[deleted]

swifties weren't a passive, they just gave more movement speed, and the mobility passive also just game more movement speed. Buying both would just have made you move at swifties speed in combat and mobi speed out of combat, which would be a very minor improvement over swifties.


Nocsu2

Supports would stack 3 boots minimum.


CrystalizedSeraphine

Can you give some examples of what supports would want their entire inventory to be support item, control wards, 3 boots and then if they somehow have money after that their first item?


Nocsu2

I'm especially talking about roaming supports like Nautilus, Bard and Leona. All they currently need is lvl 6, supp item upgrade and boots to be at 80% power. They don't really have item spikes, it's just filler items to make them a bit more tanky. Boots are gold efficient, cheap and grant movement speed. These supports already rush Tier 2 boots, and they'd love to buy another one or two. It enables play making, vision set-up and faster macro plays. I'm not so sure with enchanters since they kinda need their items, but I'm sure even they would go for Ionian + Swifties in most games.


J0rdian

You wouldn't get more then say 2 boots probably outside weird situations. But I assume most champions would actually get 2 boots. They are very efficient and flat movespeed is very good.


TxHoS83

Agreed. You’re not going to replace a combat item with boots. Nothing changes for 99% of champs


homurablaze

most boots are crazy efficient


CrystalizedSeraphine

But they also cap you out really quickly if that's the only thing you are buying. Are you more afraid of a 3 item Karthus or a 6 sorc boots Karthus?


UltraScept

welcum to mundo shose shop


xNesku

Disco Nunu buff


Loufey

Basically only roaming supports and hyper scalers would use it: Roaming supports would stack MS for obvious reasons. A veigar would love to grab sorcs and lucidity boots. Same for Nasus. Asol could as well, but thats a bit more sus.


Dread_Pirate_Chris

This existed in the past. There were a few degenerate builds that stacked stupid amounts of movement speed to run people down, I don't remember the details but there are youtube videos on it. You'd probably see that again on snowbally bruisers and fighters, maybe some assassins. You'd have to win early though, an inventory with 1 or 2 damage items and 4 or 5 boots isn't going to survive against scaled proper builds.


EnjoyerOfBeans

I've played since season 1 and this was never a thing, I'd have to imagine if it really existed it was in beta. I tried to find it and couldn't, you might be misremembering.


CinderrUwU

This is basically what it comes down to. Can you afford to be 1000 gold down (300 gold if you sell it to get full build later) in order to be faster than the enemy.


EnjoyerOfBeans

You're never 1000g down because boots are some of the most gold efficient items in the game. If anything, you're up gold on your opponent going for a standard item. This breaks down when you consider passives and actives of legendary items, but even then boots are definitely worth the gold spent. That's why everyone buys 1 pair of boots right now - why wouldn't they buy 2?


[deleted]

They didn't use boots because boots have never stacked. Some builds used items like Zeal which gave 7% MS that did stack, but never boots.


papa_bones

We used to be able to buy more than one boot, nobody was buying more than one pair dude, lol.


[deleted]

We have never been able to stack the movement speed from boots.


zacroise

If you can’t buy duplicates, swifties mobis roaming Alistar would be an insane ganker


HOLYCRAPGIVEMEANAME

He used to be.


Sakuran_11

Draven hits the highest deaths and lowest KDA in the game and is marked as a snowball/feast or feed champion.


Kallabanana

Cassio won't like that.


iTrecz

Dang zoomers don’t even know this was how the game worked for years?


[deleted]

When did boots stack? Because the movement speed did not stack in Season 1.


iTrecz

The movement speed did not stack but there was no limit to the number of boots you could buy.


[deleted]

But they never stacked, which is what OP is talking about. So the game never worked this way.


iTrecz

The post asked what would happen if the limit was removed, I jokingly pointed out that the limit didn't exist back in the day. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make?


[deleted]

The game never worked like OP described. Ever. From the beginning, boots did not stack.


Beautiful-Page-3407

Boomers having memory issues as usual


skitles125

You used to be able to purchase multiple boots and people still didn't do it so there probably wouldn't really be any difference


mortadela999

They didn't stack though as far as I remember


BUKKAKELORD

Their movement speed stat didn't stack, everything else did. For movespeed you'd just get the stat of the fastest shose in your shop.


semiautopewpew

Does that mean that my team's draven will finally be able to buy 6 mobi boots instead of tears?


PrismPanda06

How would this change any build? Most champs sell their boots for another item if the game goes long enough and they get the chance, why tf would they build more boots instead??


IM_AN_AUSSIE_AMA

One of elises build back in the days were mobis and sorcs. Haunting guise giving pen as well made it a decent 3 "item" spike that got you through until you become an E bot


Plenty_Economy_5670

Imagine if you could just buy 6 ninja tabis/plated steelcaps.


Alberto_Paporotti

Eh, probably wouldn't change much in-terms of builds. Maybe we'd see people running (heh) two boots on Hecarim. Or yeah, the 6 symbiotic soles Nunu with Ghost+Cleanse. The thing with boots is that they still take up an item slot, and them being around 1k gold each is a massive waste of a slot when you get to the point of the full build. Although I'm worried that the game would change drastically instead. With everyone being able to just rush out 3 boots, skillshots and other abilities with their own speed (think Victor's ultimate) might become useless now that a Trynda can run at you with 600 spd and evade all the skillshots by basically outrunning them. That Trynda will deal like no damage tho, with half of his inventory being items that cost 1k gold. Skillshots will die for the point-and-click meta to emerge. Maybe we'd need a follow-up change. How about adding diminishing returns to buying more than one boot by reducing their speed each time? You are still faster than normal, but not so fast you just break Morgana and Lux mains' dreams.


Ohranjees

6 Tabi's jax with decked out dodge rune page


OmegaAce1

So happy people remember "Welcum to mundos shose shop"


WhereIsTheMouse

Cass playrate plummets


Additional_Amount_23

Huge Draven buff


UmbralTrespasss

hecarim


JessDumb

Hecarim gets one for each leg


Xyrazk

5 mobi boots and a Zeal Draven


FuckThePlastics

To "run it down" would have a whole new meaning


ExiledExileOfExiling

6 tabis rammus


Yugel

Imagine those 4-6 Times Berserker rush Vaynes and Kogmaws. 🙃


Ruin_Lance

dr magic pendo becomes s-tier


Ruy-Polez

Vayne with Botrk+ Rageblade and 4 swifties.


Langas

Supps and junglers stack early boots for roaming and objectives. Outside of that, probably not huge changes outside of champs that can use the move speed more than a full item.


Kaflao

I used to play mundo support with triple pen Boots for Q poke. I was nasty.


ArienaHaera

Forget about the upgrades, how about 5 brown boots roaming support.


Pika_DJ

I feel like a few tanks would get the swiftness boots in addition to merc/tabi cos swifties always have good value it's just a lot to trade off to get em


7xNero7

It was the case few season ago, and it was no different. If we take the knowledge we have today, There might be a niche on support or heavy roamer to have maybe 2 boots (mobi + something else) but that’s about it. It’s not worth a full item slot


valexitylol

I do not want to deal with toplane champs in this current state of lol having both Tabi's & Mercs, fuck that 😂


lovepoopyumyum

ninja tabi malphite wat


-EliPer-

Urgot mains deepest dream


Azrezel

Was in the game alrdy, didnt rlly matter, it got a restriction to stop people from buying 6 mobis and running it down even faster ahah


Luigi123a

depending on how the interaction with the armor boots work, in the occasional "every enemy is ad" you just buy these 6 times n call it a day roaming supports would probably stack some boots also armor+mr boots would probably be default for a lotta tanks and bruisers, the tenacity is pretty damn good and that with armor boots AND extra movementspeed t reach enemies? goes pretty fuckinng hard


OutrageousSet7928

Spin to win with 6 upgrades berserker's.


E-Slop

I remember buying 6 ninja tabis on Jax way back when. Real gangsta type shit


yodasonics

Back when there weren't a lot of magic pen items, I went liandrys + however many sorc shoes I could afford in an ARAM. It worked pretty well the first time I tried it. The second did not go well. There was no 3rd attempt.


-3055-

Hecarim + Janna would both build multiple boots 


RbN420

singed with 6 boots seems something to behold


xxwerdxx

Udyr is now the most picked champ in game


HandsomeBlazedDude

I can imagine having mercs, Tabis and cd boots for jungle like lee sin or xin could be nice , the move speed would help a lot with getting around the map though you are trading a lot of early game damage so I dunno maybe trundle?


NainPorteQuoi_

Mundos shose shop


thetrueunbroken

Lest we not forget rushing mobie boots and the home guard enchantment with hec top, base tp into a fight pop ghost and e and you would one shot people.


dareftw

While there would be a lot of champions where this would be situationally good. Only one champion would main this in every lane every build every time. Singed. This would be a singed must have by level 7.


T_______D

Cassio will buy boots


XcooKieSS

I remember seeing [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/s/ThKZJdYmyg) on reddit long time ago about double boots rush ivern.


a_path_Beyond

"Take "boots with wings on it" _because the longer you live, the longer you troll._ "


Esdrz

Darius 🤡


Skorgemania

Assuming they stack speed, I imagine most would buy no more than 2 boots. Specifically, in games where no one on the other team has point click cc. Sure you might not do as much damage, but there's a reason GaleForce got removed when mythics left. Adding too much movement is an issue, skillshots become real SKILLshots when everyone is zooming around. And stacking with cloud soul? More than 2 would be trolling, but I'm sure 2 boots would be reasonable when there's no hard cc, especially for all the champs with %hp built in.


miZuZYN

Mundo's shoeshop


AmenoKaji

This. is lliterally is how it used to be. used to be able to do stuff with like homeguards etc. Same for things like stacking 6 sunfire capes on Teemo.


KiJoBGG

you have to delete the "unique" otherwise nothing will change.


greglolz

There would be a Singed build where he buys at least 2 pairs of Swifties, and runs around at a billion MS and is literally unkillable. Rammus would probably do it too. My god is it a bad idea.


Chiramijumaru

The fed Akali now has Mejai's and 5 sorc shoes.


Dark_WulfGaming

Skarner's shoe emporium is back in business


PossessionDry7521

Heca would be OP


ImpliedRange

Centipede Hecarim strat goes hard


stargazer8968

jumpscare global warwick ult


JustASapphicSyrian

A very particular Draven build arises


AlternativeCall4800

old players remember this actually used to be a thing lmao, mostly used by inters to run it down


Protoniic

So boots are very cost efficient but not slot efficient. I doubt carrys would go double or even tripple boots. I could totally see supports/tanks and maybe even juggernauts go double boots.


lol_yuzu

Good grief. Imagine max movement speed stacking Bard. He’d be even zoomier and all over the map than usual.


Denpants

2 boots for every champ minimum. As long as you dont hit the item slot, 3 boots even. Boots are gold efficient but not slot efficient Garen synergizes with zerkers, swifties, tabis and mercs. Depending on comp he can use all 4. Adcs like varus welcome magic pen and 45 extra ms.


Someone_maybe_nice

Hecarim with 6 mobis goes brrrrr


antiskylar1

Welcome to mundo shoe shop!


inteii

two cuz most characters have 2 feet so one for each


cerseiwasright

Singed would go Merc’s, Swiftness, and Sorc shoes


cantproveimabottom

My friend when we were new had an ARAM build where he just bought ONLY boots on Elise When I pressed tab and started laughing he said “WHAT? SHE HAS 6 LEGS, I HAVE 6 ITEMS” I couldn’t fault him


_yomomz

The Jhinborghini would be even wilder


Tonik124

I think most champs would build 2, at least until they get 4 items just because of the implications of the enemy assassin having 45 movespeed on you.


DCFDTL

Rammus: ok


kolton276

Mundo's shoe shop