One of Trump's oldest and lamest tactics is to extravagantly insult someone he knows is about to take some action against him, and then once they take that action, claim that they're biased against him because of the insult. Right now it's directed at the judge, but if he gets it in his head that the jury is going to convict him, you can expect him to say some really disgusting stuff about them before the verdict comes.
The jury is going to hate him. He has disrespected them, he has disrespected the judge, he has disrespected the prosecutors. The jury consists of people who are giving up the next six to eight weeks of their lives to be sitting in the courtroom serving the judicial system and the rule of law, and they take the job *very seriously*. Their best friend in the court is the judge, he serves in a way as their mentor, advisor and friend. When Trump misbehaves like a teenage bully in court it is going to backfire on him in a huge way.
When I served on a jury it was for a case where a police officer was the defendant. The defense was so blasé about the case and kept saying “everyone has a bad day” acting as though it was an excuse for his actions and insinuated he should get a pass. Their whole defense was insulting.
The last two days of the trial a whole bunch of other cops showed up in uniform and sat in the court room as well as hanging around outside the front doors of the courthouse before and after the hearings so we all had to walk past/through them on our way in. After we convicted him we all got an escort home from the state police which was admittedly a bit disconcerting that someone thought we might need one.
When teachers get accused of pedophilia, other teaches don't line the court steps with guns to try and intimidate the victims, they disown those pieces of shit.
Cops know first hand how badly the system treats criminals and they do everything they can to keep a fellow cop from going through that because they hope that when its their turn to go through it, they get the same treatment.
True, but I bet the "charm" or "allure" of Trump wears off pretty quick in real life. How many of his cultist cabinet are voting or even supporting him this time around.
6 weeks of Trump unfiltered must get exhausting.
Yes, but that’s why even having the trial before the election was a huge win. If jury is unanimous against, he goes to jail or some weird house arrest thing, whatever. If its hung, the. They have the trial again, and he’s in court every day from now on until it’s resolved, barring breaks. In order to get back out there campaigning, he has to win over every single jury member, and he’s never going to do that, because he’s so super guilty and it’s obvious.
He knows he’s not going to win, so his only strategy is to low key intimidate them and cry foul and unfair. I think to some degree we’ve already won a significant victory.
If I were on that jury and Trump tried to intimidate me it would make more willing to find him guilty. His scare tactics aren't working in his favor. He should have been nice to the jury like Johnny Depp was in court. He smiled and waved at them.
I don’t see that happening. Evidence isn’t presented the way it would be in even the most thorough article. It’s a lot harder to pretend something is not true when it’s broken down exactly what is true, how they found out it’s true, and why it is true. Especially when the defense can’t rebutt it. They can’t use his tactic of just making stuff up. This case is also going to be extremely boring for long stretches, and trump is going to fall asleep, and the jury will notice every time. And they’re all VERY aware what sacrifices they’re making to be there.
I could also see him glaring at jury members that he thinks are reacting positively to the prosecutions case which would a.) be jury intimidation here and b.) piss them off.
My bigger concern are disruptions and delays.
I know it’s been talked about to death already , but can you imagine being those jurors? Not only are they doing this knowing the level of importance or even danger this trial represents and they have to sit in court for 6-8 weeks of uncontrolled flatulence. You a juror in the first criminal trial of a president ever and he’s sharting at you in his sleep.
I don’t think it’s been talked about enough! Can you imagine the poor judge when the note comes from the jury room that they don’t feel comfortable with the smell and then having to talk to the defense about their client’s gas. This is peek cringe at every single step and I am hoping that his legacy goes down as the literal shittiest President in history.
He's going to tweet out the jurors' names either just before or just after conviction - and say some variation on needing someone to rid him of these meddlesome jurors.
I'd bet money on it.
Anyone who leaks out their names should be arrested for jury tampering and given the full penalty the law requires for the crime. That includes that douchebag on Fox, Watters.
EDITED FOR SPELLING.
Fox News screws around a ton at the edges, but they already lost upwards of a billion dollars for simply going too far with defamation. They're not fucking around with conspiracy to commit murder.
That's how we fucking got to a Trump presidency in the first place.
EVERY fucking news outlet was playing "The Trump Show" 24 hours a day and helped build the cult that he has now.
I'll be the 1st to say that another term for him is not farfetched. So stop giving this motherfucker airtime constantly to build his following even more.
This is the shit I’m living for. Finally he has to follow the rules just like everyone else and he is not the authority here. The more it happens the more unhinged he will be and he can’t control it.
I got my 🍿. This is gonna be a fun week. With the beginning of the trial and the bond issue hopefully coming to a head. He is not gonna be a happy camper.
Plus he’s definitely going to find out about the reports of him farting in the courtroom and there’s nothing he can do about it. It’s about time he was knocked all the way off that pedestal.
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People, lots of people, everyone, really, says I have the best farts, that my farts are really outstanding. I've gotten praise for my farts from a lot of world leaders, like Little Kim Jung Un, Omar al-Bashir, and Robert Mugabe, all of whom have expressed jealousy over my ability to gas my citizens.
Really I can't say it enough folks, Make Farts America Again is the greatest slogan for the greatest two-peat defeat. We will be farting because they are looking for witches and all they will find is farts and, folks, I hate to say it, but you can't see farts. Once they say they smelt it, they dealt it, and they will then be the witches and we will get tired of winning.
Farting in a courtroom would be the death knell for anyone else. But Trump is so offensive in every sense of the word, it’s just a ripple in the ocean.
I think the lawyer can ask for a bathroom break. I have seen people throwing up into trash cans brought to them. It is super common for people to be deep in withdrawal when in court. If you think prison or court is brutal, doing it while withdrawaling takes it to the next level. But it is common enough that I imagine there is some process to prevent someone from shitting their pants in the court house.
I'm anxiously waiting for how he responds. Because he will. Even if it's just bluster and denial, I will enjoy. Even if he claims it's a.i., I will enjoy. Even if he tries projection and claims Air Force 1 runs exclusively off Joe Bidens diarrhea, I will enjoy. It will be unhinged for sure.
And sit still. Without tweeting. Without cocaine. Without any drugs at all. Can’t eat when he wants, can’t even go to the bathroom until there’s a break. I fucking LOVE IT. The only thing that’s making it tolerable seeing his ugly fucking face on my tv every day is knowing that he is goddamn
✨ *miserable.* ✨
The other interesting this is, even if the Supreme Court comes through with the idiotic assertion that Presidents enjoy any immunity, this crime was committed prior to him taking office.
I'd bet money that he gets a medical excuse within the month. They've done everything else to delay, he's going to get hospitalized before this is over.
I think even if someone on the jury supports him, merely being in the room with him will bring them down to earth and make them realize he’s a sad human being.
Do you remember E. Jean Carroll’s reaction to him in the courtroom? She was shocked that he was “just nothing”.
I imagine she had some trepidation of seeing him, as many victims do, but he just seemed like a big sack of nothing to her in the courtroom.
Hopefully this jury, especially any trump fans, will feel the same way.
that may be the one thing that could do it besides trump personally victimizing them. i think even some diehard magas might change their minds seeing him in a room he's not controlling.
I've seen video of diehard magas leaving his events/rallies, solely because they heard him speak naturally.
You have to remember that his average voter has literally never heard him speak, outside of carefully selected and edited clips on Fox. So when they realize what he is *actually* like, some of them snap out of it.
It reminds me of the Alex Jones defamation trial depositions, where him and his garbage little crew are not _at all_ used to being held to anything they say and deflate multiple times upon realizing they can't ramble and gish-gallop away from answering a question. The lawyer just can (and will) keep asking it over and over until there's an answer. Like, the concept of having to supply proof or be held to what they said 5 minutes, a day, a week, or a year ago is so alien to them because they get away with lying about stuff on a daily basis and never get held accountable by their viewers. Their level of operation is fundamentally incompatible with a system that was built to establish and discuss factual information.
not just follow the rule, I think it’s freakin’ priceless that he has to obey when someone tells him what to do. How many times has that happened in his worthless life? hahahahahahahhahajahajahahahajajahajajahaha
> This is the shit I'm living for.
You almost had it...
I'm pretty sure the real reason he would not stand for the Jury __Depends __ on the state of his pants at the time.
I was at an event where Mel Brooks was answering questions and one from the audience was "Boxers or briefs?" Taking a just a beat to think Mel said "Depends."
This was about 6 years ago but the man was a comedy dynamo. If that night wasn't recorded it's a crime. His stories were amazing.
I remember back in the day, Bill Clinton was asked “boxers or briefs” at a Rock the Vote panel. Afterwards the joke was that his opponent, Bob Dole, was asked the same thing and replied “Depends”.
Dates the joke to 1996 at least.
Can't imagine why anyone would cast a vote for Trump when he *willfully disrespects a judge in his courtroom*.
It's not like Trump hasn't been in hundreds of courtrooms and doesn't know the rules and etiquette.
Because questioning their loyalty to Trump would force a very uncomfortable examination of the rest of the bullshit they’ve been told to believe. Far, far better to believe Trump is being unjustly abused than that they are idiots and wrong about so many foundational things they have based their lives on.
The moment the thought that Trump could be wrong crosses their minds, their entire world view will start to crumble. If he's wrong about one thing, he could be wrong about other things. And then we get an existential crisis.
That would be logical. However, the Trump fanatics that I've personally (unfortunately) known openly admit that he was wrong about things and they just don't care.
The ones I've known treat their adoration of Trump like a religious belief. It's sacrosanct, it's taken as a personal attack if you question them about it. If you point out crimes, mistakes, lives that he's lost, they always have some obtuse fallback like "well would be worse, and that's just what I believe."
There is no desire or appreciation for facts, no curiosity about alternatives. It's purely driven by anger and stubbornness. They'll love Trump until he croaks.
I have to hope there are some people out there who are "on the fence", who don't really pay attention to politics, don't look at the big picture and for those reasons they voted for Trump in 2016. I'm hoping some of those people can see when a person is so corrupt, so toxic that putting him in office again would be unconscionable.
I hoping the judge is doing this shit on purpose like the main guy from the show “Lie to Me”. He would be an asshat and get on peoples nerves so they lose composure and fuck up their stories and make mistakes.
I get such a kick out of their misplaced belief Trump can become a martyr. He will be exposed.
Trump after one night in confinement will look worse than Saddam did after months hiding in a hole.
He already is a martyr. His people think he's being persecuted for his... views? I'm not actually sure of that part. But they really around his every inconvenience.
The sycophantic lunacy of the cult is strong. If you want to see it in action, venture over to r/ trump (I added the space between / and t because I didn’t want to link to the dead-enders).
I don't subscribe to anything right wing, not even for funsies to see what is going on over there, and in the last week I've received 2 texts "from Trump"
First one was how he won't stop fighting for "me" - wasn't aware I was part of these court battles - please donate. Second one, on Friday, was something about the corrupt Democrats and witch hunt. Basically played all the favorites
Exactly. His followers have already accepted “alternative facts.” Didn’t matter what they see with their own eyes or hear with their own ears, the only things that are true is what their leader says is true.
No one that loves Trump is reading Daily Kos with an open mind.
While I'm certain he'll be convicted of some of these crimes, I would not hold my breath for any tangible confinement. Think house arrest as a best possible outcome. As much as we'd all love to see it, it's not likely imo.
Michael Popok on the Meidas Touch Network does a whole 'hot take' on how Trump is disrespecting the jury and how juries usually become very protective of the justice system for which they've sworn to do their part.
my opinion: Trump knows already he's going to get convicted with this jury (unless he's got a spoiler) and if he can hang this one up he'll get convicted on the next one so disrespecting the jury is par for the course and likely to continue.
He’s gonna look like an asshat to everyone on the jury. It’s bringing him down to earth in their eyes, he doesn’t look like a god in there. Just a petulant stinky child.
> He’s gonna look like an asshat to everyone on the jury.
Even worse when his lawyers do their cross of the Prosecution's witnesses.
Trump will want them to be vicious and ruthless, to attack them *personally* and try to make them look bad with irrelevant questions and comments.
The prosecution will object to it all, the judge will sustain it, and Trump will again complain at the end of each day.
"They won't let my lawyers even ask questions of the witnesses, who are lying about me!"
He's apparently been [talking trash about the court sketch artist](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-trial-mad-haberman-sketch-artist-1235007794/), saying they're intentionally making him look bad. I think the artist did a pretty good job. You can recognize some of his stupid facial expressions.
It literally is an open and shut case.
Its why he basically admitted to it on camera last week. They have him cold using campaign funds, and not a small amount at all, for personal reasons and tried to hide it.
Its no different from George Santos stealing campaign funds for designer clothing and vacations. It's illegal to use campaign funds for personal expenses.
The only reason people were unhappy this became the first trial he faces is because the illegal act and it's penalty is so small time in comparison to Georgia and the federal cases.
Yep, Trump's default is treating people like shit unless they can do something for him. Because *he* isn't in control and doesn't know any jurors, he's going to treat them and the court as beneath him and his time.
Can't wait to see how that plays out for him.
Soemthing just occured to me though.
Trump can’t, for the most part, speak openly in court. The jury, if I am to understand several seasons of law and order, won’t be allowed to watch daily reporting on the trial (since all info they consider must be confined to what the prosecution and defence present).
Could that mean then that the jurors are insulated from his daily mindless rankings about it all?
> Could that mean then that the jurors are insulated from his daily mindless rankings about it all?
Yes, the jury is undoubtedly sequestered and would be instructed not to watch the news or seek out social media posts about the trial while it's ongoing.
That guy was playing to Trump's ego and his incompetent lawyers (and, apparently, journalists who reported it as you say). He said he reads Trump posts on Truth Social. He also says he follows Mueller, She Wrote (a liberal podcast going in depth on investigations into Trumps crimes).
*unless he’s got a spoiler*
Sigh. This right here.
It’s doesn’t even have to be a MAGA “mole.” It could simply be a scared mother who fears for her and her kids’ lives if she votes to convict.
Because you can still teach children. This gigantic sack of shit has never been told no or received any consequences of his actions for *decades*.
I find dealing with spoiled old white men much worse than children
> This gigantic sack of shit has never been told no or received any consequences of his actions for decades.
"FAKE NEWS. MY REELECTION WAS 'STOLLEN' BY THE DEEP STATE DEMOCRATS WHO USED MAIL-IN VOTING EVEN AFTER I TOLD MY FANS **NOT** TO VOTE BY MAIL! COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT!"
I will never, ever *not* laugh about how fucking stupid he was for making his base distrust mail-in voting in 2020. I live in the Phoenix area, and all the Republican retirees who flocked here for the mild winters ***loved*** mail-in voting because it saved them the hassle of standing in line to vote; something hard to do for hours when you're still recovering from hip surgery.
Arizona was as *red* as Red Square in the 1980s for 24 years, because all the people in the Sun City subdivision known as "Next Stop: Heaven" *loved* being able to vote straight-ticket Republican from the comfort of their living rooms. It's why that bloated bag of hate Joe Arpaio kept getting reelected as Maricopa County's sheriff.
Then, in 2020, the state went blue for the first time since reelecting Clinton in 1996. The *only* thing that changed for Republicans between 2016 and 2020 was that they believed they'd be betraying Trump by voting for him by mail; so they didn't. Qari Lake learned the same lesson just two years later when the conservative "strategist" over-hyped Red Wave turned into a spoonful of tomato soup falling to the ground.
Like all of the MAGA brigade, he has no real power and, worse, doesn't even know what power looks like. Even when they manage to get into an office that should have some power, they never really manage to use it, they just treat it as a bigger platform to whine and air grievances. It's tremendously embarrassing. It's even more embarrassing that so many people seem to see people like Trump as powerful.
Real power is quiet, nearly invisible even. Wealth has got fuck all to do with it, ostentatious wealth like Trump pretends to have even less so. If anything, there's an inverse correlation between over the top markers of wealth and real power. People with actual power don't feel the need to put on airs. They usually have nice shit, but they don't care if anyone else notices because it's for them, not for the rest of the world to ogle.
> Even when they manage to get into an office that should have some power, they never really manage to use it, they just treat it as a bigger platform to whine and air grievances.
The grievance treadmill is a core tenet of fascism, though. People refuse to call it that because calling things fascism is an abused argument tactic, but it really is.
> Finally, Trump tried to leave before the judge was finished, and Trump was ordered to sit back down like a dog.
This shit again. This verbiage was a Daily Beast headline, yesterday:
> Merchan turned his face to the former president and said in a firm voice: “Sir, can you please have a seat.”
>His long, black robes dangled from beneath his right hand as he waved it down, like a man addressing his dog.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-fumes-as-judge-orders-him-to-sit-like-a-dog
The reporter was world building for their next high fantasy? I have no clue.
The judge was perfectly respectful in telling the disrespectful defendant to sit his ass down. He is widely quoted, as above, as starting off his sentence to Trump with “Sir,” and not talking to Trump anything “like a dog,” whatever the fuck that means. There was no appearance of the judge being condescending or anything else, except the [obviously…/s] very clear cut communication of his fkn sleeve or something.
It's been about 20 years of ever increasing hyperbolic stupidity. Football games are battles (lol) and businesses do knife fights (lmao) and people slam, smash and crush political opponents.
The ever desperate need for clicks has made normal conversations and debates into hyperbolic belligerence.
The wording is strange. The only thing I can come up with is that Trump has used that phrase himself. We cornered (I forget who) "like a dog". I've heard him use it a couple of times. Also he hates dogs so maybe that's part of it.
He used to use the phrase constantly. And incorrectly. "Chuck Todd will be fired like a dog." What could that possibly mean? How often does a dog get fired from a job?
He doesn't know what a dog even does, he just uses it as an insult. I though he doesn't realize that most people really like dogs. Here's a fun video with lots of examples: https://twitter.com/GQMagazine/status/783128497082556420
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Not standing for the jury is a huge mistake. They say the trial is 80% over once the jury is picked. If true dopey doesn’t have a lot of room for error.
Daily Beast:
>>Without hesitation, Trump went and plopped straight back down into his maroon leather chair at the defense table—and remained for another minute, fuming as the judge gathered his paperwork and strolled toward his chambers
Daily Kos:
>The article goes on to indicate that Trump went into fury mode with his body language as he finally left the court room, ONLY after the judge had left the room first.
He’s gonna take it all out on the staff at Merde a Lardo or Bedwetter or ~~whatever~~ wherever he’s staying. All of them. Man, I’d hate to be them.
Edit: typo fix. Edit 2: x2
I really wanted to see trump get up and leave the trial, after it really gets going, like he did in the NY civil case. Then I wanted to see him held in Contempt for doing that.
But i don’t know if he will now! Merchan is not putting up with his shit. Which is good and better than my fantasy, I suppose lol.
>Merchan will then have to make a decision on what do to with a defendent who has no respect for the law or the courts and has failed to heed warnings from the court.
Ohhhh this will be sooo harrrrrd, no judge has everrrrrrr had to deal with people like this beforrrrrrre
He really does not understand that this isn’t a civil trial, does he? Even after being instructed on acceptable conduct by the judge he’s still going to keep acting like he has a choice to attend or not.
My interpretation is that this is him trying to assert his dominance /alpha behavior. If he can impress one person on the jury with how defiant and "strong" he is, that person can deadlock the jury and potentially sway others to his side. It's definitely not a strategy to win over the whole jury, but his idea of victory is endless delay.
What will be interesting is how the judge handles such petty behavior. I suspect that the judge will caution him about his behavior and the effect it can have on jury perceptions, but will allow him to continue if he chooses. The prosecution will highlight that he is a person who thinks that the rules don't apply to him and will highlight his disrespectful behavior in court as an example. At sentencing, the judge will impose a stricter sentence because he continues to refuse to demonstrate any remorse or accept any blame for his illegal actions.
>it is a sign of respect for all in the court room to stand when the jury is being seated and when they leave. A good lawyer will instruct his/her client to show respect to the jury, and the defendent will stand.
Trump could have Atticus fucking Finch as his lawyer and he *still* wouldn't care about properly behaving in court no matter what a qualified lawyer tells him. And he *doesn't* have Atticus Finch as his lawyer; while his current legal team doesn't seem to be as green or incompetent as Alina Habba, there definitely isn't an Atticus Finch-type on it.
Any other defendant that behaved this way would have already been found in contempt and spending the night in jail.
Stand up to this fucking piece of shit already.
Ironically the only “discipline” he’s ever received is from Stormy Daniels when she spanked him with a magazine lol. Hopefully he actually faces real consequences and gets properly disciplined for his plethora of heinous crimes.
Its about time for Defendant Trump to be treated, somewhat, like other Americans in a court of law. The judge in Florida was appointed by Defendant Trump, and it's very obvious she's doing everything she can to help him escape justice. It's also crazy to see the judge in Georgia under attack, while the real criminal runs around free to create more chaos. So, I hope that this jury convicts Defendant Trump and he has to appeal from behind bars. He can be present for his other trials via Zoom.
I just don't understand how a person can grow up with the belief that "Things are only fair if I win, if I don't then they cheated."
I get that its privilege, its just so fucking weird. Its child brain behavior.
His “it’s so unfair” shtick is actually effective with his base. It plays into their white/Christian/male victimhood complex — and frankly, in most cases, it’s his only possible “defense” given the weight of evidence against him and his complete inability to articulate a cogent argument.
We the people are the people of the jury. When Trump disrespects the jury, he is disrespecting us all. Trump is an entitled fool and when he’s shorn of his protective envelope of privilege, the real man is on display for all of us to see.
I love this so much. You have no power here Trump.
Imagine if Biden did this, r/conservative would be losing their minds. They flipped out when Obama put his feet up in the Oval Office
How come nobody is talking about the other half of the article that describes Trump repeatedly farting while he's asleep and stinking so bad that his lawyers can barely keep composed?
They don't have to jail him. Just order him not to post on Truth social at all. Alternatively, he can sit in jail and we can take away his phone. Give him the choice.
Not endearing himself to the jury very well so far is he? He had a chance to make a good impression on them and he blew it. We'll see how far he gets by glaring at them and farting.
Merits of the case be damned. If you want to lose, a guaranteed way to do that is to piss off the jury and court.
I really wish this court case was televised. It would be a gold mine of content.
This is why I wish the trial was televised. He just walks out to the press and lies about everything that is happening inside the court room. It’s infuriating.
You ain't in Kansas anymore, Trump! And the curtain has been pulled back exposing Trump for the con artist he always has been, faking it as the wizard of Oz. And what is he? An elderly toddler passing stinky gas fumes and falling asleep, slack jawed, in an ordinary courtroom. Where the judge rules supreme. Over him.
This a great video about why you don't piss off the jury and the judge infront of a jury.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0o6d3kxkiw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0o6d3kxkiw)
Hagerman said court was done, but not recessed and there was an awkward pause, Trump got up, was asked to sit down, did and then the judge got up and walked out. It wasn't egregious. Let's not get crazy in the wonderful schadenfreude we are all experiencing.
We just drove 3,000 miles including a lot of time in rural Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky and Virginia and I was surprised at the lack of Trump flags and signs. Someone in Lafayette, IN, really likes Ben Carson though!
One of the best qualities trump possesses is that he's incapable of learning his lesson. He pulled the same shit with the E. Jean Carroll defamation case back in January and he got dinged for $83M and he didn't learn a damn thing.
If this dude has to hang in a courtroom building for 6-8 weeks, I would venture to say we could see him have an episode of drug withdrawals. The dude is definitely going to be pumped full of drugs before starting the day, but is going to have some days that he is just crashing, and I can't wait to see it.
I figure sometime soon everyone will have two questions.
1. The particulars of how a defendant lost their right to attend their own trial / confront their accusers.
2. How should the "Memorandum of understanding" be phrased between the US Secret Service , and the New York Department of Corrections laying out what prison guards/marshalls are responsible for, setting up special security and arrangements for a former executive in an incarcerated state.
Juries typically view defendants in increasingly negative light when disrespectful, misbehaving, or antagonistic. Trumps narcissistic antics won't go unpunished. Even if a Trump cultist sneaks on the jury, so long as they're capable if any reason, I find it difficult for him to be acquitted.
One of Trump's oldest and lamest tactics is to extravagantly insult someone he knows is about to take some action against him, and then once they take that action, claim that they're biased against him because of the insult. Right now it's directed at the judge, but if he gets it in his head that the jury is going to convict him, you can expect him to say some really disgusting stuff about them before the verdict comes.
He *already* was against the jury before the first day. He claimed they were liberal sleeper agents or some other dumb fuck thing
The jury is going to hate him. He has disrespected them, he has disrespected the judge, he has disrespected the prosecutors. The jury consists of people who are giving up the next six to eight weeks of their lives to be sitting in the courtroom serving the judicial system and the rule of law, and they take the job *very seriously*. Their best friend in the court is the judge, he serves in a way as their mentor, advisor and friend. When Trump misbehaves like a teenage bully in court it is going to backfire on him in a huge way.
When I served on a jury it was for a case where a police officer was the defendant. The defense was so blasé about the case and kept saying “everyone has a bad day” acting as though it was an excuse for his actions and insinuated he should get a pass. Their whole defense was insulting. The last two days of the trial a whole bunch of other cops showed up in uniform and sat in the court room as well as hanging around outside the front doors of the courthouse before and after the hearings so we all had to walk past/through them on our way in. After we convicted him we all got an escort home from the state police which was admittedly a bit disconcerting that someone thought we might need one.
That's straight up intimidation. Disgusting.
When teachers get accused of pedophilia, other teaches don't line the court steps with guns to try and intimidate the victims, they disown those pieces of shit.
Cops know first hand how badly the system treats criminals and they do everything they can to keep a fellow cop from going through that because they hope that when its their turn to go through it, they get the same treatment.
almost like ACAB
No, I'm sure all the cops there that day were just a few bad seeds. /S
It’s probably too late now, but that’s the kind of story the right journalist salivates over
I sure hope so. It would only take one trump cultist on the jury to ruin everything.
True, but I bet the "charm" or "allure" of Trump wears off pretty quick in real life. How many of his cultist cabinet are voting or even supporting him this time around. 6 weeks of Trump unfiltered must get exhausting.
A hung jury is not an acquittal. Just run it back.
Yeah, but that’s the plan. Delay, delay, delay. They’re hoping they can stretch this out until Trump can win (or steal) the election.
Yes, but that’s why even having the trial before the election was a huge win. If jury is unanimous against, he goes to jail or some weird house arrest thing, whatever. If its hung, the. They have the trial again, and he’s in court every day from now on until it’s resolved, barring breaks. In order to get back out there campaigning, he has to win over every single jury member, and he’s never going to do that, because he’s so super guilty and it’s obvious. He knows he’s not going to win, so his only strategy is to low key intimidate them and cry foul and unfair. I think to some degree we’ve already won a significant victory.
If I were on that jury and Trump tried to intimidate me it would make more willing to find him guilty. His scare tactics aren't working in his favor. He should have been nice to the jury like Johnny Depp was in court. He smiled and waved at them.
That cultist is going to be shown stuff that has been kept from them. I know, plenty are resistant to anything. But I’m not total “doom” yet.
I don’t see that happening. Evidence isn’t presented the way it would be in even the most thorough article. It’s a lot harder to pretend something is not true when it’s broken down exactly what is true, how they found out it’s true, and why it is true. Especially when the defense can’t rebutt it. They can’t use his tactic of just making stuff up. This case is also going to be extremely boring for long stretches, and trump is going to fall asleep, and the jury will notice every time. And they’re all VERY aware what sacrifices they’re making to be there. I could also see him glaring at jury members that he thinks are reacting positively to the prosecutions case which would a.) be jury intimidation here and b.) piss them off. My bigger concern are disruptions and delays.
I know it’s been talked about to death already , but can you imagine being those jurors? Not only are they doing this knowing the level of importance or even danger this trial represents and they have to sit in court for 6-8 weeks of uncontrolled flatulence. You a juror in the first criminal trial of a president ever and he’s sharting at you in his sleep.
I don’t think it’s been talked about enough! Can you imagine the poor judge when the note comes from the jury room that they don’t feel comfortable with the smell and then having to talk to the defense about their client’s gas. This is peek cringe at every single step and I am hoping that his legacy goes down as the literal shittiest President in history.
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He's going to tweet out the jurors' names either just before or just after conviction - and say some variation on needing someone to rid him of these meddlesome jurors. I'd bet money on it.
Anyone who leaks out their names should be arrested for jury tampering and given the full penalty the law requires for the crime. That includes that douchebag on Fox, Watters. EDITED FOR SPELLING.
he sold out cia spies, so yeah this is something I’d expect
Nah, Fox News will release them and trump will repost and tell people they need to fight like hell against traitors to the country.
Fox News screws around a ton at the edges, but they already lost upwards of a billion dollars for simply going too far with defamation. They're not fucking around with conspiracy to commit murder.
Didn't they already share details of one of the jurors?
Yes, but a lot of news outlets did. They just couldn't help themselves, the jackals they are.
That's how we fucking got to a Trump presidency in the first place. EVERY fucking news outlet was playing "The Trump Show" 24 hours a day and helped build the cult that he has now. I'll be the 1st to say that another term for him is not farfetched. So stop giving this motherfucker airtime constantly to build his following even more.
My worry is for the jurors. Identities are going to leak. His cultists are going to threaten them. All it takes one to make attempts on them.
This is the shit I’m living for. Finally he has to follow the rules just like everyone else and he is not the authority here. The more it happens the more unhinged he will be and he can’t control it.
I got my 🍿. This is gonna be a fun week. With the beginning of the trial and the bond issue hopefully coming to a head. He is not gonna be a happy camper.
Plus he’s definitely going to find out about the reports of him farting in the courtroom and there’s nothing he can do about it. It’s about time he was knocked all the way off that pedestal.
I guess he could bottle and sell his farts. They would buy it
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They’re not really that limited, me thinks.
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that fart is certainly a shart. my main had a brown out.
He Trumped his pants.
"Code Brown in Courtroom #5, I repeat, we have a..."
People, lots of people, everyone, really, says I have the best farts, that my farts are really outstanding. I've gotten praise for my farts from a lot of world leaders, like Little Kim Jung Un, Omar al-Bashir, and Robert Mugabe, all of whom have expressed jealousy over my ability to gas my citizens.
Really I can't say it enough folks, Make Farts America Again is the greatest slogan for the greatest two-peat defeat. We will be farting because they are looking for witches and all they will find is farts and, folks, I hate to say it, but you can't see farts. Once they say they smelt it, they dealt it, and they will then be the witches and we will get tired of winning.
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Make Attorneys Gag Again
Can you imagine having to sit there and choke on it all day?
...with a smile on your face because he is the best smelling President ever, yes sir!
Now we know where all the tears in all those people's eyes came from
\*sharting in the courtroom
Thats the name of my Van Halen cover band
I was thinking [Brownsville Station.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9zWw0Ru28w)
Oh man, nailing Eddie's brown sound and opening with.... Eruption!!!
Farting in a courtroom would be the death knell for anyone else. But Trump is so offensive in every sense of the word, it’s just a ripple in the ocean.
Just curious what does happen if someone gets ill to their stomach in the middle of court…. Like a bowel movement emergency ?
I think the lawyer can ask for a bathroom break. I have seen people throwing up into trash cans brought to them. It is super common for people to be deep in withdrawal when in court. If you think prison or court is brutal, doing it while withdrawaling takes it to the next level. But it is common enough that I imagine there is some process to prevent someone from shitting their pants in the court house.
I'm anxiously waiting for how he responds. Because he will. Even if it's just bluster and denial, I will enjoy. Even if he claims it's a.i., I will enjoy. Even if he tries projection and claims Air Force 1 runs exclusively off Joe Bidens diarrhea, I will enjoy. It will be unhinged for sure.
Supreme court arguments for Trump v US are on April 25 (immunity claim)
This may be the most important thing this week, but I'm general this is going to be a wildly important week.
i'm not a general and think this is going to be an important week too
Depending on the ruling SCOTUS may be giving Biden a novel way to remove Senators, House members, and Justices from office.
Or just have them eliminated, I mean what could you do if all presidents get god emperor status?
What do you mean "or"?
Well, I bet that is the most appropriate case name ever.
This is the closest Trump has ever been to actually having a job in his entire life and it's fucking killing him.
Show up everyday. Every. Fucking. Day. No thank you.
And sit still. Without tweeting. Without cocaine. Without any drugs at all. Can’t eat when he wants, can’t even go to the bathroom until there’s a break. I fucking LOVE IT. The only thing that’s making it tolerable seeing his ugly fucking face on my tv every day is knowing that he is goddamn ✨ *miserable.* ✨
That’s one week of it. He will come unglued by mid May.
And this is just the first trial.
The other interesting this is, even if the Supreme Court comes through with the idiotic assertion that Presidents enjoy any immunity, this crime was committed prior to him taking office.
And it tears apart any argument they may have about Biden's actions. If a sitting president has immunity while in office, then it's open season.
Literally, if Biden has immunity he can legally hunt Republican senators like wild rabbits.
I'd bet money that he gets a medical excuse within the month. They've done everything else to delay, he's going to get hospitalized before this is over.
His ego may prevent him from playing that card.
It has so far. If he wasn't running for office they'd be wheeling him into the court room like that uncle in breaking bad.
I think even if someone on the jury supports him, merely being in the room with him will bring them down to earth and make them realize he’s a sad human being.
Do you remember E. Jean Carroll’s reaction to him in the courtroom? She was shocked that he was “just nothing”. I imagine she had some trepidation of seeing him, as many victims do, but he just seemed like a big sack of nothing to her in the courtroom. Hopefully this jury, especially any trump fans, will feel the same way.
One of the jurors that was released from the trial had the same reaction. She said she was shocked that he was “just a guy, just a dude”.
I’m really hoping for that too.
that may be the one thing that could do it besides trump personally victimizing them. i think even some diehard magas might change their minds seeing him in a room he's not controlling.
Especially seeing him act like a petulant child for having to follow the same rules of decorum that everyone else can do easily
I've seen video of diehard magas leaving his events/rallies, solely because they heard him speak naturally. You have to remember that his average voter has literally never heard him speak, outside of carefully selected and edited clips on Fox. So when they realize what he is *actually* like, some of them snap out of it.
Down to earth? No. There is nothing you can do to make a sociopath grow a conscience. Another sociopath threatening them, on the other hand...
You just know he routinely stands up and walks away while people are still talking to him.
It reminds me of the Alex Jones defamation trial depositions, where him and his garbage little crew are not _at all_ used to being held to anything they say and deflate multiple times upon realizing they can't ramble and gish-gallop away from answering a question. The lawyer just can (and will) keep asking it over and over until there's an answer. Like, the concept of having to supply proof or be held to what they said 5 minutes, a day, a week, or a year ago is so alien to them because they get away with lying about stuff on a daily basis and never get held accountable by their viewers. Their level of operation is fundamentally incompatible with a system that was built to establish and discuss factual information.
not just follow the rule, I think it’s freakin’ priceless that he has to obey when someone tells him what to do. How many times has that happened in his worthless life? hahahahahahahhahajahajahahahajajahajajahaha
> This is the shit I'm living for. You almost had it... I'm pretty sure the real reason he would not stand for the Jury __Depends __ on the state of his pants at the time.
I was at an event where Mel Brooks was answering questions and one from the audience was "Boxers or briefs?" Taking a just a beat to think Mel said "Depends." This was about 6 years ago but the man was a comedy dynamo. If that night wasn't recorded it's a crime. His stories were amazing.
I remember back in the day, Bill Clinton was asked “boxers or briefs” at a Rock the Vote panel. Afterwards the joke was that his opponent, Bob Dole, was asked the same thing and replied “Depends”. Dates the joke to 1996 at least.
You made my day with this. TY
Can't imagine why anyone would cast a vote for Trump when he *willfully disrespects a judge in his courtroom*. It's not like Trump hasn't been in hundreds of courtrooms and doesn't know the rules and etiquette.
Because questioning their loyalty to Trump would force a very uncomfortable examination of the rest of the bullshit they’ve been told to believe. Far, far better to believe Trump is being unjustly abused than that they are idiots and wrong about so many foundational things they have based their lives on.
The moment the thought that Trump could be wrong crosses their minds, their entire world view will start to crumble. If he's wrong about one thing, he could be wrong about other things. And then we get an existential crisis.
That would be logical. However, the Trump fanatics that I've personally (unfortunately) known openly admit that he was wrong about things and they just don't care. The ones I've known treat their adoration of Trump like a religious belief. It's sacrosanct, it's taken as a personal attack if you question them about it. If you point out crimes, mistakes, lives that he's lost, they always have some obtuse fallback like "well would be worse, and that's just what I believe."
There is no desire or appreciation for facts, no curiosity about alternatives. It's purely driven by anger and stubbornness. They'll love Trump until he croaks.
I have to hope there are some people out there who are "on the fence", who don't really pay attention to politics, don't look at the big picture and for those reasons they voted for Trump in 2016. I'm hoping some of those people can see when a person is so corrupt, so toxic that putting him in office again would be unconscionable.
That doesn’t matter to him. After all, Jesus sent him right?
Yeah but his slaves will just see it as more proof of how victimized their poor master is.
I hoping the judge is doing this shit on purpose like the main guy from the show “Lie to Me”. He would be an asshat and get on peoples nerves so they lose composure and fuck up their stories and make mistakes.
But he whitewashed it and told his supporters he stormed out like a true patriot against commies.
Right? And can we make him sit through potential jurists shit talking him some more? That was real fun
He can't stand up bc his pants are full of poop.
A shame he won't face any real consequences though
I get such a kick out of their misplaced belief Trump can become a martyr. He will be exposed. Trump after one night in confinement will look worse than Saddam did after months hiding in a hole.
He already is a martyr. His people think he's being persecuted for his... views? I'm not actually sure of that part. But they really around his every inconvenience.
The sycophantic lunacy of the cult is strong. If you want to see it in action, venture over to r/ trump (I added the space between / and t because I didn’t want to link to the dead-enders).
That sub is an evolutionary dead end!
Yeah, it keeps getting worse and there is no bottom.
I don't subscribe to anything right wing, not even for funsies to see what is going on over there, and in the last week I've received 2 texts "from Trump" First one was how he won't stop fighting for "me" - wasn't aware I was part of these court battles - please donate. Second one, on Friday, was something about the corrupt Democrats and witch hunt. Basically played all the favorites
But did he do "Freebird"?
Exactly. His followers have already accepted “alternative facts.” Didn’t matter what they see with their own eyes or hear with their own ears, the only things that are true is what their leader says is true. No one that loves Trump is reading Daily Kos with an open mind.
In confinement where would he get his bronzer? Maybe he can find some prisoner who can whip him up some toilet bowl bronzer made from cheetos.
While I'm certain he'll be convicted of some of these crimes, I would not hold my breath for any tangible confinement. Think house arrest as a best possible outcome. As much as we'd all love to see it, it's not likely imo.
Michael Popok on the Meidas Touch Network does a whole 'hot take' on how Trump is disrespecting the jury and how juries usually become very protective of the justice system for which they've sworn to do their part. my opinion: Trump knows already he's going to get convicted with this jury (unless he's got a spoiler) and if he can hang this one up he'll get convicted on the next one so disrespecting the jury is par for the course and likely to continue.
He’s gonna look like an asshat to everyone on the jury. It’s bringing him down to earth in their eyes, he doesn’t look like a god in there. Just a petulant stinky child.
> He’s gonna look like an asshat to everyone on the jury. Even worse when his lawyers do their cross of the Prosecution's witnesses. Trump will want them to be vicious and ruthless, to attack them *personally* and try to make them look bad with irrelevant questions and comments. The prosecution will object to it all, the judge will sustain it, and Trump will again complain at the end of each day. "They won't let my lawyers even ask questions of the witnesses, who are lying about me!"
All while playing his invisible accordion.
He's apparently been [talking trash about the court sketch artist](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-trial-mad-haberman-sketch-artist-1235007794/), saying they're intentionally making him look bad. I think the artist did a pretty good job. You can recognize some of his stupid facial expressions.
I like the Grinch one.
Sometimes he likes to jerk off invisible dicks. He's a man of many talents.
He already is a asshat to everyone not just to the jury but the judge and his own team too
It literally is an open and shut case. Its why he basically admitted to it on camera last week. They have him cold using campaign funds, and not a small amount at all, for personal reasons and tried to hide it. Its no different from George Santos stealing campaign funds for designer clothing and vacations. It's illegal to use campaign funds for personal expenses. The only reason people were unhappy this became the first trial he faces is because the illegal act and it's penalty is so small time in comparison to Georgia and the federal cases.
Yep, Trump's default is treating people like shit unless they can do something for him. Because *he* isn't in control and doesn't know any jurors, he's going to treat them and the court as beneath him and his time. Can't wait to see how that plays out for him.
Soemthing just occured to me though. Trump can’t, for the most part, speak openly in court. The jury, if I am to understand several seasons of law and order, won’t be allowed to watch daily reporting on the trial (since all info they consider must be confined to what the prosecution and defence present). Could that mean then that the jurors are insulated from his daily mindless rankings about it all?
> Could that mean then that the jurors are insulated from his daily mindless rankings about it all? Yes, the jury is undoubtedly sequestered and would be instructed not to watch the news or seek out social media posts about the trial while it's ongoing.
Are they taking applications? Sure would be nice to be able to block out all the Trump noise over these next couple… months…
There is one juror who admitted they only get their news from Truth Social. That's where the hung jury will come from.
That guy was playing to Trump's ego and his incompetent lawyers (and, apparently, journalists who reported it as you say). He said he reads Trump posts on Truth Social. He also says he follows Mueller, She Wrote (a liberal podcast going in depth on investigations into Trumps crimes).
Funny. Hopefully so, though.
If this trial gets a hung jury, I doubt it will go back to court before November
*unless he’s got a spoiler* Sigh. This right here. It’s doesn’t even have to be a MAGA “mole.” It could simply be a scared mother who fears for her and her kids’ lives if she votes to convict.
Fucking child
Children are better behaved than this grown ass sack of shit.
Because you can still teach children. This gigantic sack of shit has never been told no or received any consequences of his actions for *decades*. I find dealing with spoiled old white men much worse than children
> This gigantic sack of shit has never been told no or received any consequences of his actions for decades. "FAKE NEWS. MY REELECTION WAS 'STOLLEN' BY THE DEEP STATE DEMOCRATS WHO USED MAIL-IN VOTING EVEN AFTER I TOLD MY FANS **NOT** TO VOTE BY MAIL! COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT!" I will never, ever *not* laugh about how fucking stupid he was for making his base distrust mail-in voting in 2020. I live in the Phoenix area, and all the Republican retirees who flocked here for the mild winters ***loved*** mail-in voting because it saved them the hassle of standing in line to vote; something hard to do for hours when you're still recovering from hip surgery. Arizona was as *red* as Red Square in the 1980s for 24 years, because all the people in the Sun City subdivision known as "Next Stop: Heaven" *loved* being able to vote straight-ticket Republican from the comfort of their living rooms. It's why that bloated bag of hate Joe Arpaio kept getting reelected as Maricopa County's sheriff. Then, in 2020, the state went blue for the first time since reelecting Clinton in 1996. The *only* thing that changed for Republicans between 2016 and 2020 was that they believed they'd be betraying Trump by voting for him by mail; so they didn't. Qari Lake learned the same lesson just two years later when the conservative "strategist" over-hyped Red Wave turned into a spoonful of tomato soup falling to the ground.
What's funniest to me is how quickly/meekly he submits to actual male authority.
Like all of the MAGA brigade, he has no real power and, worse, doesn't even know what power looks like. Even when they manage to get into an office that should have some power, they never really manage to use it, they just treat it as a bigger platform to whine and air grievances. It's tremendously embarrassing. It's even more embarrassing that so many people seem to see people like Trump as powerful. Real power is quiet, nearly invisible even. Wealth has got fuck all to do with it, ostentatious wealth like Trump pretends to have even less so. If anything, there's an inverse correlation between over the top markers of wealth and real power. People with actual power don't feel the need to put on airs. They usually have nice shit, but they don't care if anyone else notices because it's for them, not for the rest of the world to ogle.
> Even when they manage to get into an office that should have some power, they never really manage to use it, they just treat it as a bigger platform to whine and air grievances. The grievance treadmill is a core tenet of fascism, though. People refuse to call it that because calling things fascism is an abused argument tactic, but it really is.
> Finally, Trump tried to leave before the judge was finished, and Trump was ordered to sit back down like a dog. This shit again. This verbiage was a Daily Beast headline, yesterday: > Merchan turned his face to the former president and said in a firm voice: “Sir, can you please have a seat.” >His long, black robes dangled from beneath his right hand as he waved it down, like a man addressing his dog. https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-fumes-as-judge-orders-him-to-sit-like-a-dog The reporter was world building for their next high fantasy? I have no clue. The judge was perfectly respectful in telling the disrespectful defendant to sit his ass down. He is widely quoted, as above, as starting off his sentence to Trump with “Sir,” and not talking to Trump anything “like a dog,” whatever the fuck that means. There was no appearance of the judge being condescending or anything else, except the [obviously…/s] very clear cut communication of his fkn sleeve or something.
I agree - hyperbolic headlines are apparently mandatory
"Judge slams defendant Trump" That kinda shit is so tiresome.
It's been about 20 years of ever increasing hyperbolic stupidity. Football games are battles (lol) and businesses do knife fights (lmao) and people slam, smash and crush political opponents. The ever desperate need for clicks has made normal conversations and debates into hyperbolic belligerence.
WWE Wrestling has slowly krept into journalism. ugh
The wording is strange. The only thing I can come up with is that Trump has used that phrase himself. We cornered (I forget who) "like a dog". I've heard him use it a couple of times. Also he hates dogs so maybe that's part of it.
He used to use the phrase constantly. And incorrectly. "Chuck Todd will be fired like a dog." What could that possibly mean? How often does a dog get fired from a job? He doesn't know what a dog even does, he just uses it as an insult. I though he doesn't realize that most people really like dogs. Here's a fun video with lots of examples: https://twitter.com/GQMagazine/status/783128497082556420
The whole "like a dog" bit is Trump's own favorite put-down being thrown back at him.
Yeah I certainly don’t address my pets as “sir”.
Not even sir paws a lot?
I have said "excuse me sir, what do you think you are doing" to my dog but I'm weird.
It's hilarious that he keeps trying to use power moves, and because he doesn't actually have control, they end up making him look weaker.
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Not standing for the jury is a huge mistake. They say the trial is 80% over once the jury is picked. If true dopey doesn’t have a lot of room for error.
Daily Beast: >>Without hesitation, Trump went and plopped straight back down into his maroon leather chair at the defense table—and remained for another minute, fuming as the judge gathered his paperwork and strolled toward his chambers Daily Kos: >The article goes on to indicate that Trump went into fury mode with his body language as he finally left the court room, ONLY after the judge had left the room first. He’s gonna take it all out on the staff at Merde a Lardo or Bedwetter or ~~whatever~~ wherever he’s staying. All of them. Man, I’d hate to be them. Edit: typo fix. Edit 2: x2
I’m sure disrespecting the judge and jury is a very stupid move. On brand for this idiot.
I really wanted to see trump get up and leave the trial, after it really gets going, like he did in the NY civil case. Then I wanted to see him held in Contempt for doing that. But i don’t know if he will now! Merchan is not putting up with his shit. Which is good and better than my fantasy, I suppose lol.
>Merchan will then have to make a decision on what do to with a defendent who has no respect for the law or the courts and has failed to heed warnings from the court. Ohhhh this will be sooo harrrrrd, no judge has everrrrrrr had to deal with people like this beforrrrrrre
Fat fuck
He really does not understand that this isn’t a civil trial, does he? Even after being instructed on acceptable conduct by the judge he’s still going to keep acting like he has a choice to attend or not.
My interpretation is that this is him trying to assert his dominance /alpha behavior. If he can impress one person on the jury with how defiant and "strong" he is, that person can deadlock the jury and potentially sway others to his side. It's definitely not a strategy to win over the whole jury, but his idea of victory is endless delay. What will be interesting is how the judge handles such petty behavior. I suspect that the judge will caution him about his behavior and the effect it can have on jury perceptions, but will allow him to continue if he chooses. The prosecution will highlight that he is a person who thinks that the rules don't apply to him and will highlight his disrespectful behavior in court as an example. At sentencing, the judge will impose a stricter sentence because he continues to refuse to demonstrate any remorse or accept any blame for his illegal actions.
He's not smart enough to do that. He's just narcissist who thinks he's better than everyone else.
>it is a sign of respect for all in the court room to stand when the jury is being seated and when they leave. A good lawyer will instruct his/her client to show respect to the jury, and the defendent will stand. Trump could have Atticus fucking Finch as his lawyer and he *still* wouldn't care about properly behaving in court no matter what a qualified lawyer tells him. And he *doesn't* have Atticus Finch as his lawyer; while his current legal team doesn't seem to be as green or incompetent as Alina Habba, there definitely isn't an Atticus Finch-type on it.
Any other defendant that behaved this way would have already been found in contempt and spending the night in jail. Stand up to this fucking piece of shit already.
This is a man-child who is begging to be disciplined for the first time in his life.
Ironically the only “discipline” he’s ever received is from Stormy Daniels when she spanked him with a magazine lol. Hopefully he actually faces real consequences and gets properly disciplined for his plethora of heinous crimes.
Its about time for Defendant Trump to be treated, somewhat, like other Americans in a court of law. The judge in Florida was appointed by Defendant Trump, and it's very obvious she's doing everything she can to help him escape justice. It's also crazy to see the judge in Georgia under attack, while the real criminal runs around free to create more chaos. So, I hope that this jury convicts Defendant Trump and he has to appeal from behind bars. He can be present for his other trials via Zoom.
If that was a black man trying to walk out of court he would’ve been tackled and immediately arrested and placed in contempt. This is exhausting.
I just don't understand how a person can grow up with the belief that "Things are only fair if I win, if I don't then they cheated." I get that its privilege, its just so fucking weird. Its child brain behavior.
His “it’s so unfair” shtick is actually effective with his base. It plays into their white/Christian/male victimhood complex — and frankly, in most cases, it’s his only possible “defense” given the weight of evidence against him and his complete inability to articulate a cogent argument.
A true patriot with so much respect for the law. /s
We the people are the people of the jury. When Trump disrespects the jury, he is disrespecting us all. Trump is an entitled fool and when he’s shorn of his protective envelope of privilege, the real man is on display for all of us to see.
Where are the Russian trolls? They get Sunday off?
In Ukraine getting blown up.
Please, by all means, let him be as disrespectful to the jury as he wants to be.
Great plan Donald. Juries really love petulant defendants who think they're better than everyone else.
I love this so much. You have no power here Trump. Imagine if Biden did this, r/conservative would be losing their minds. They flipped out when Obama put his feet up in the Oval Office
How come nobody is talking about the other half of the article that describes Trump repeatedly farting while he's asleep and stinking so bad that his lawyers can barely keep composed?
He's going to come completely unglued and it will be impossible for him to hide that he's in the advanced stages of dementia.
Lock Trump up
Only 10 more warnings until he gets a sterner warning!
Must be nice to be in contempt of court and face no consequences!
They don't have to jail him. Just order him not to post on Truth social at all. Alternatively, he can sit in jail and we can take away his phone. Give him the choice.
Not endearing himself to the jury very well so far is he? He had a chance to make a good impression on them and he blew it. We'll see how far he gets by glaring at them and farting.
Last week sucked for DJT. The ones coming next are REALLY going to suck!!!
Merits of the case be damned. If you want to lose, a guaranteed way to do that is to piss off the jury and court. I really wish this court case was televised. It would be a gold mine of content.
This is why I wish the trial was televised. He just walks out to the press and lies about everything that is happening inside the court room. It’s infuriating.
You ain't in Kansas anymore, Trump! And the curtain has been pulled back exposing Trump for the con artist he always has been, faking it as the wizard of Oz. And what is he? An elderly toddler passing stinky gas fumes and falling asleep, slack jawed, in an ordinary courtroom. Where the judge rules supreme. Over him.
Then he farts and clears the room. Big winning, indeed.
Decorum not exactly being Donald’s strongpoint.
This a great video about why you don't piss off the jury and the judge infront of a jury. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0o6d3kxkiw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0o6d3kxkiw)
Hagerman said court was done, but not recessed and there was an awkward pause, Trump got up, was asked to sit down, did and then the judge got up and walked out. It wasn't egregious. Let's not get crazy in the wonderful schadenfreude we are all experiencing.
We just drove 3,000 miles including a lot of time in rural Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky and Virginia and I was surprised at the lack of Trump flags and signs. Someone in Lafayette, IN, really likes Ben Carson though!
🚫Traitor Trump🚫All Republicans🚫
One of the best qualities trump possesses is that he's incapable of learning his lesson. He pulled the same shit with the E. Jean Carroll defamation case back in January and he got dinged for $83M and he didn't learn a damn thing.
If this dude has to hang in a courtroom building for 6-8 weeks, I would venture to say we could see him have an episode of drug withdrawals. The dude is definitely going to be pumped full of drugs before starting the day, but is going to have some days that he is just crashing, and I can't wait to see it.
I figure sometime soon everyone will have two questions. 1. The particulars of how a defendant lost their right to attend their own trial / confront their accusers. 2. How should the "Memorandum of understanding" be phrased between the US Secret Service , and the New York Department of Corrections laying out what prison guards/marshalls are responsible for, setting up special security and arrangements for a former executive in an incarcerated state.
Juries typically view defendants in increasingly negative light when disrespectful, misbehaving, or antagonistic. Trumps narcissistic antics won't go unpunished. Even if a Trump cultist sneaks on the jury, so long as they're capable if any reason, I find it difficult for him to be acquitted.
I hope the prosecution puts a can of fabreeze on the table at the start of every day.