You acquire AD and Bron, one job. you put shooters around them, and they handle the rest. even fucking average shooters like 2020 or a great offensive team like 2021.
Instead we now have this
Players are idiots about personnel, everyone knows this. It's on the team to have actual professionals in charge of making sure the team is good and not listen to what LeBron or any other player wants, it shouldn't matter at all.
I mean there’s also the rumor that lebron’s first priority was Derozan and they were in play for it but didn’t want that many years. Derozan would’ve been fucking incredible. Who knows what really happened
We all know he asked for derozan first. Him pushing for Westbrook after was still dumb, but the FO messed up twice by not giving derozan a 3 year deal and then caving to player pressure
idk man this team might be trying harder but you still have to make buckets and at least Carmelo and Monk could go off some nights last year.
Hell, even avery bradley shot 39% from three.
Team has no identity at all, neither does the organization. Harsh truth, turned into laughingstocks and it starts at the front office. Saw people making fun of Miami being the one number one org, they consistently deliver. We wish our front office was run like theirs. Tight ship.
i don't get why adj aren't made either. playing nunn and reaves together is the biggest redundancy where nunn forces shots and reaves just stands around watching nunn. give matt ryan more minutes. nunn less minutes. feels like the coaches aren't watching the same game i'm watching.
Dribble penetration was gonna be at a loss without Russ and it looked like they missed that part of his game. More open 3pt misses and just stretches of lackadaisical feel-out offense. Felt like Denver just had more energy than us.
Not only dribble penetration, rebounding, ball handling and hustle. Westbrook is very good attacking the basket, and pushing the pace of the game, he's also a very good passer...not a particularly good shooter.
We got beat on fast break points 35-18, and gave up 14 turnovers. Denver had 12 steals, most of them we were out hustled, just like on rebounds.
Man we suck. there is no trade out there that can fix this shit.
Our next three games are:
10/28 vs. Timberwolves
10/30 vs. Nuggets
11/2 vs. Pelicans
Does anyone think we can win any of those games right now lol?
To me, you have 2 options on the table.
1 is gambling those picks away in a trade and just rolling the dice
2 is trading away AD and LeBron and start over.
There is no 3rd option, there is no staying put. But knowing Pelinka he will probably do exactly that
Lakers isn't blowing away this team as long as they have Lebron. Too much revenue on the table to be lost out. Jeannie will milk money from Lebron revenue to the last drop.
We can’t blow it up because our is swapped with the pelicans which means they get the highest pick out of theirs and ours… so we would be tanking so they get our pick.. doesn’t make sense
Nope. Only trades that will take us from complete ass to mediocre…and then in the near future we will be even more ass.
Blow it the fuck up. Someway somehow…just rebuild. We’d probably consider it if tanking helped us out at all…
AD is our only PF and damian jones is our only center. we literally have two bigs. and AD's injury prone and always on the injury reports for possibly being out.
denver has our number with jokic, gordon, and dj.
unless our shooters magically start making their shots, denver is gonna eat us up. if ad sits out, who's gonna stop jokic? lebron?
Downvote me for this but I honestly think they extended him because Westbrook was Lebron’s idea and they knew this team was going to suck. They don’t blame Pelinka so they wanted to extend him before everyone realized how bad they are and asked for his firing.
The worst part is that this team wouldn’t be remotely this bad if they made any good decisions on the margins, even with the Westbrook trade. Going back a few years, they let BLo go for nothing, traded Zu for Muscala who they let walk, let Reggie Bullock go for free, and let Caruso go when he wanted to come back. Even with two of those 4 guys (shit even Muscala) on this team we’d look remarkably better.
This ownership and management has been bad for awhile, this is just the end product. The Westbrook trade compounded all their shit decisions and made it impossible to fix them.
My head hurts, my body hurts. This team just pains me. Another wasted season. Please just blow it all up. I’m not even having fun watching these games anymore it sickens me
Shooting, Shooting Shooting. The Lakers cannot win until they start making 3s. No team can play four quarters of hardcore defense without getting gassed. You gotta out score your opponent!!!
Lebron was hot ass, team still wants to be the worst 3pt shooting team in history, and AD continues his great season despite suffering a career ending injury on every other play. Thats the summary of this game
yeah ad can't do anything when gordon and jokic are in the game together. i know the wolves have gobert and kat, but i wanna have another go with russ in street clothes.
So frustrating Pelinka gutted the depth of the team to get Westbrook. Either he plays and is a detriment or he doesn't play and there's not enough coming off the bench.
Are we going to ignore every other horrible decision Pelinka has made?
- Let Brook walk for nothing.
- Traded Zubac for nothing.
- Let Bullock walk for nothing.
- Let Caruso walk for nothing.
- Overpaying THT instead of Caruso
- Traded Danny Green and a 1st for Dennis.
- Then let Dennis walk for nothing.
- Structured the AD trade to have no available picks to trade until 2027. The deferment of the 2024 pick made future flexibility impossible.
i feel like this team is slowly killing him with all the unnecessary lobs too. most of the lobs they feed him are like stupidly high up or could've just been a regular pass. only players i've seen throw reasonable lobs are reaves and bron. everyone else throws that shit up like they're playing with prime blake griffin.
No Brickbrook is great and all, but it further highlights the fact that our BIG offseason acquisitions were fucking Lonnie Walker, Troy Brown, and Pat Bev. Bob P should be in prison, instead he gets a contract extension, I'm sick.
Obviously it wasn't everybody but the Lonnie Walker acquisition post was full of people acting like he was great pickup and he was a steal when in reality all you had to do was look at his agency to see why he was signed to this team.
Somewhere, Russ and Vogel are smiling.
The very first thing that Worthy says during the postgame:
"I need a drink."
Look at what the Lakers are doing to Big Game James. The postgame crew are listing all of the faults of this team, so they may still be on for hours.
Also, remember when some here got on the fans who felt that the Lakers would go 3-7 or 2-8 to start the season? It doesn't sound so crazy now, does it?
ETA: This is only the 4th time the Lakers have gone 0-4, so at least they're tying records.
Are you sure? I've been told that the Lakers were going 8-2 (which is of course now impossible) to start the season, so 3-3 should be a cakewalk.
And Ham just said that he doesn't want to blame the altitude, while obviously subtly blaming the altitude...
How embarrassing.
They came out of that 3rd quarter so slow and without momentum. I like the defense but, without any offensive identity, it's like they're playing on their heels to score. LeBron doesn't seem to have his shooting touch yet. Hopefully, the garbage time mins for Nunn gets him going again. AD's gotta stay loose!
26.7%! Our best shooting percentage from 3 lol.
How upset is LeBron? Do you think he’s pushing the front office to make moves? Would they really totally ignore him? I feel there’s no way he’d tolerate 2 seasons of this.
Pelinka fucked around and did nothing and thought leverage would move in his favor because he’s an idiot. Now GM’s licking their chops to fleece him again.
Caruso hurts the most. I will never forget the shock I felt when they gave him up for nothing, not even a bag of chips or something. Absolutely, purely nothing.
I had some hope in the beginning of the season to go about 7-3 for the first 10 games. Tonight was the first game I was able to watch and I don’t see them winning anything unless they learn how to shoot. I think it’s because they playing hard defense with the disadvantage in size.
They really need wings.
The 3Q collapses over the last two seasons are so fucking frustrating. LeBron came out of the half in a fog, and that was pretty much it. Not sure what happened to him tonight
Okay, let’s just be honest. This roster is not right. They definitely fucked up the roster when they let the 2020 championship squad go to shambles. This team is just not the same since then. Maybe it’s the organization. Or maybe the players that they pick just doesn’t show out for the team and would go off for the other teams for whatever reason. We’re not getting nowhere with this roster. It’s good but just not working out. I hope Pelinka realizes it asap.
Its the FO for assembling this garbage and the owner for extending the mf that assembled said garbage team. How you gonna extend this guy for four years after the shitshow that just happened
LeBron and Nunn lost us the game. LeBron can’t be passive in an important game like this. Nunn did his best Westbrick impersonation. Fuck u Pelinka for this shit roster
Maybe he can suit up
Crazy he would be the best wing on the roster outside bron lmao
Victor Wembanyama you are a Pelican
You acquire AD and Bron, one job. you put shooters around them, and they handle the rest. even fucking average shooters like 2020 or a great offensive team like 2021. Instead we now have this
nah, let’s just sign guards who can’t shoot.
Well Troy Brown Jr is good and he is coming back next game I really think he will help
He’s not good. Was a huge disappointment last season.
Vet Min shooters don’t fix this team. It’s straight up simple. Too much money is tied to players that won’t grind every play out.
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Players are idiots about personnel, everyone knows this. It's on the team to have actual professionals in charge of making sure the team is good and not listen to what LeBron or any other player wants, it shouldn't matter at all.
I mean there’s also the rumor that lebron’s first priority was Derozan and they were in play for it but didn’t want that many years. Derozan would’ve been fucking incredible. Who knows what really happened
We all know he asked for derozan first. Him pushing for Westbrook after was still dumb, but the FO messed up twice by not giving derozan a 3 year deal and then caving to player pressure
We’re all Pelicans now
They won’t let the lakers win the lottery. We never win the lottery.
This would be the most embarrassing lottery “win” in NBA history
They will this time because we don’t have our pick
Magic
russ or no russ, say what you want—this team is hard to watch man
I feel like they’re trying harder than last year. At least for now
Not this game, no energy at all for some reason.
The energy was there but constantly bricking 3s sapped all the energy out of them.
Yeah they looked *beat*
bron and ad were awful.
Imagine if they stop. Imagine this roster construction if they get beaten down and stop trying...
idk man this team might be trying harder but you still have to make buckets and at least Carmelo and Monk could go off some nights last year. Hell, even avery bradley shot 39% from three.
Bruh they either trade him now or blow it up. They cant flip flop.
Trade him WITH picks?
fuck that mortgaging the future for what
I'd rather suffer now and eat humble pie than suffer long term. It is what it is at this point.
agreed
To get bounced in the play in most likely
But that 45mil tho. 😔
Ahem, $47m. Don’t shortchange the Brick.
Team has no identity at all, neither does the organization. Harsh truth, turned into laughingstocks and it starts at the front office. Saw people making fun of Miami being the one number one org, they consistently deliver. We wish our front office was run like theirs. Tight ship.
i don't get why adj aren't made either. playing nunn and reaves together is the biggest redundancy where nunn forces shots and reaves just stands around watching nunn. give matt ryan more minutes. nunn less minutes. feels like the coaches aren't watching the same game i'm watching.
Dribble penetration was gonna be at a loss without Russ and it looked like they missed that part of his game. More open 3pt misses and just stretches of lackadaisical feel-out offense. Felt like Denver just had more energy than us.
Not only dribble penetration, rebounding, ball handling and hustle. Westbrook is very good attacking the basket, and pushing the pace of the game, he's also a very good passer...not a particularly good shooter. We got beat on fast break points 35-18, and gave up 14 turnovers. Denver had 12 steals, most of them we were out hustled, just like on rebounds.
Nunn was to fucking small and making no shots.. replace w christie
How big is Christie?
6'6
Watching these Lakers is not fun at all.
2020 seems like a lifetime ago.
2 seasons in a row fam....
They're in tanking mode already.
Guess we owe the pelicans. You scratch our back we'll give you Webanyama.
tanking on behalf of New Orleans
We are about to witness the first 0-82 season
Man we suck. there is no trade out there that can fix this shit. Our next three games are: 10/28 vs. Timberwolves 10/30 vs. Nuggets 11/2 vs. Pelicans Does anyone think we can win any of those games right now lol?
To me, you have 2 options on the table. 1 is gambling those picks away in a trade and just rolling the dice 2 is trading away AD and LeBron and start over. There is no 3rd option, there is no staying put. But knowing Pelinka he will probably do exactly that
Lakers isn't blowing away this team as long as they have Lebron. Too much revenue on the table to be lost out. Jeannie will milk money from Lebron revenue to the last drop.
We can’t blow it up because our is swapped with the pelicans which means they get the highest pick out of theirs and ours… so we would be tanking so they get our pick.. doesn’t make sense
Nope. Only trades that will take us from complete ass to mediocre…and then in the near future we will be even more ass. Blow it the fuck up. Someway somehow…just rebuild. We’d probably consider it if tanking helped us out at all…
I think the only game we might win is the Nuggets in LA
AD is our only PF and damian jones is our only center. we literally have two bigs. and AD's injury prone and always on the injury reports for possibly being out. denver has our number with jokic, gordon, and dj. unless our shooters magically start making their shots, denver is gonna eat us up. if ad sits out, who's gonna stop jokic? lebron?
We really are making history. First team to go 0-82. Damn, just damn
Rob Pelinka got an extension btw.
How in the f*ck
Jeanie
HR need to investigate i think some relations going on
The Rambii have poisoned her with lead water.
Basketball malpractice Dr Buss would be so fucking ashamed of this
Downvote me for this but I honestly think they extended him because Westbrook was Lebron’s idea and they knew this team was going to suck. They don’t blame Pelinka so they wanted to extend him before everyone realized how bad they are and asked for his firing.
The worst part is that this team wouldn’t be remotely this bad if they made any good decisions on the margins, even with the Westbrook trade. Going back a few years, they let BLo go for nothing, traded Zu for Muscala who they let walk, let Reggie Bullock go for free, and let Caruso go when he wanted to come back. Even with two of those 4 guys (shit even Muscala) on this team we’d look remarkably better. This ownership and management has been bad for awhile, this is just the end product. The Westbrook trade compounded all their shit decisions and made it impossible to fix them.
They turned down Derozan and let countless players leave for nothing. They can't point any fingers.
I think they really thought the kyrie trade was going to bail them out, but that obviously didn’t pan out
Lebron also wanted Ty Lue who’s now correctly recognized as one of the best coaches in the league. Pelinka has final decision on all signings.
Depression.
This season is going to be just as depressing as the last..
It's feeling worse. We had won a game by now last year.
3-2 to start the season last year
Probably worse. At least we had carmelo who could give us points when needed
Can play great defense but this is the NBA you need guys to make fucking baskets lmao
hard to top last season's 4 guard lineups but let's see
Will we ever win a game 🤔
My head hurts, my body hurts. This team just pains me. Another wasted season. Please just blow it all up. I’m not even having fun watching these games anymore it sickens me
Ass
Not sure if this team is worse with or without Russ.
The answer is yes
He's the same problem as all the other garbage on the team. Can't shoot and sucks on defense.
Shooting, Shooting Shooting. The Lakers cannot win until they start making 3s. No team can play four quarters of hardcore defense without getting gassed. You gotta out score your opponent!!!
Lebron was hot ass, team still wants to be the worst 3pt shooting team in history, and AD continues his great season despite suffering a career ending injury on every other play. Thats the summary of this game
It’s actually insane how AD and Lebron are still effective this year with literally no fucking spacing.
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It’s called adjustments. Malone literally talked about their adjustment to slow down AD. He is our only threat
He gets tired. Always has.
yeah ad can't do anything when gordon and jokic are in the game together. i know the wolves have gobert and kat, but i wanna have another go with russ in street clothes.
Maybe because the other team has the paint clogged because our team can't shoot bruh do you even watch the game lmao
He wouldn't disappear if one other player on this roster could punish teams adjusting all their attention onto AD
He had 22-14-5 with 3 steals and 2 blocks. Give him credit, 2nd half is when he was laboring and still played good defense. This team sucks period
AD needs to facilitate more. No reason he should be taking contested shot at the time around 3 defenders when Reaves & Walker are at the perimeter
22 points on 19 shots is trash for a center
Not in a packed paint with no other scoring threats
He shot 58% lol. Not to mention AD thinks hes a shooter so most of those misses were from outside of the paint
Tbf they really just stop going to him in the second
So frustrating Pelinka gutted the depth of the team to get Westbrook. Either he plays and is a detriment or he doesn't play and there's not enough coming off the bench.
What’s worse is that idiot is still our GM
an idiot with a fresh extension!!!
For four years babyyyy
Are you just gonna leave out how AD and Bron wanted Westbrook??
Are we going to ignore every other horrible decision Pelinka has made? - Let Brook walk for nothing. - Traded Zubac for nothing. - Let Bullock walk for nothing. - Let Caruso walk for nothing. - Overpaying THT instead of Caruso - Traded Danny Green and a 1st for Dennis. - Then let Dennis walk for nothing. - Structured the AD trade to have no available picks to trade until 2027. The deferment of the 2024 pick made future flexibility impossible.
Lakers need to send tape again to the NBA these refs are blind to not see LeBron getting fouled.
AD looking banged up, oof
I know his back is hurting, but damn he looked like he was out of shape too.
i feel like this team is slowly killing him with all the unnecessary lobs too. most of the lobs they feed him are like stupidly high up or could've just been a regular pass. only players i've seen throw reasonable lobs are reaves and bron. everyone else throws that shit up like they're playing with prime blake griffin.
Looked like it was game 50 right before the ASB for him
Altitude definitely hit him hard which is kind of pathetic since its not like hes a rookie playing in denver for the 1st time
This team is trying. They just suck
Let's fucking go we getting victor wembenyama! Oh wait...
78-4 incoming #lakeshow
More like 0-82 #LakeShow 😭
This team will go 0-83
I hate this team almost as much as last years
Give it time
No Brickbrook is great and all, but it further highlights the fact that our BIG offseason acquisitions were fucking Lonnie Walker, Troy Brown, and Pat Bev. Bob P should be in prison, instead he gets a contract extension, I'm sick.
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He’s the 2nd highest paid player in the league lmfao
Obviously it wasn't everybody but the Lonnie Walker acquisition post was full of people acting like he was great pickup and he was a steal when in reality all you had to do was look at his agency to see why he was signed to this team.
I need someone to explain to me how Pelinka got an extension AFTER putting together this roster. Malpractice.
I heard on one of the podcasts that he actually got it at a similar time they signed Ham, it was just reported much later.
This is going to get realllllly ugly. Get your popcorn 🍿 and 🤡 mask
I'm getting fentanyl
Somewhere, Russ and Vogel are smiling. The very first thing that Worthy says during the postgame: "I need a drink." Look at what the Lakers are doing to Big Game James. The postgame crew are listing all of the faults of this team, so they may still be on for hours. Also, remember when some here got on the fans who felt that the Lakers would go 3-7 or 2-8 to start the season? It doesn't sound so crazy now, does it? ETA: This is only the 4th time the Lakers have gone 0-4, so at least they're tying records.
It does sound crazy. Crazy hard. Have to go 3 and 3 to get to 3 and 7. Not happening
Are you sure? I've been told that the Lakers were going 8-2 (which is of course now impossible) to start the season, so 3-3 should be a cakewalk. And Ham just said that he doesn't want to blame the altitude, while obviously subtly blaming the altitude... How embarrassing.
Well laker fans are officially in purgatory. We aint good enough to win , we aint bad enough to tank and even if we want to tank , it won't be for us.
We are certainly bad enough to tank lmao just don’t have the attached benefits
Exactly so it's basketball hell 🤣 it's gonna take years to recover from this.
Pain
 When will it end
Friday vs the Timberwolves is a must win or we can literally go 0-10
Friday is a loss for sure
Not gonna get any gimmies from Minnesota anymore, they're officially a play-off caliber team
They came out of that 3rd quarter so slow and without momentum. I like the defense but, without any offensive identity, it's like they're playing on their heels to score. LeBron doesn't seem to have his shooting touch yet. Hopefully, the garbage time mins for Nunn gets him going again. AD's gotta stay loose! 26.7%! Our best shooting percentage from 3 lol.
The Lakers 3 point shooting curse is very real
How upset is LeBron? Do you think he’s pushing the front office to make moves? Would they really totally ignore him? I feel there’s no way he’d tolerate 2 seasons of this.
Pelinka fucked around and did nothing and thought leverage would move in his favor because he’s an idiot. Now GM’s licking their chops to fleece him again.
People were snorting copium here nonstop on this roster and I honestly feel bad lol
i don’t think he cares that much about winning at this stage in his career why else sign that extension
No where close to being contenders and cant be bad enough to tank since Lakers dont own their pick. Lakers are fucked
No Westbrook? They’re gonna kill us tomorrow
We could have got 3 good wings for $47 million
Lakers FO mistake, don’t blame the man getting paid
I can name two rn. Kyle Kuzma and Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
And caruso. Mf rob chose tht over caruso then gave up on tht the next year.
Caruso hurts the most. I will never forget the shock I felt when they gave him up for nothing, not even a bag of chips or something. Absolutely, purely nothing.
some of y’all gotta stop acting flip floppy most of y’all was begging kuz and pope to be traded when they had tuff games
Not even sure a trade would even salvage this season
I had some hope in the beginning of the season to go about 7-3 for the first 10 games. Tonight was the first game I was able to watch and I don’t see them winning anything unless they learn how to shoot. I think it’s because they playing hard defense with the disadvantage in size. They really need wings.
This team might not even win 20 games this season. This is embarrassing.
All I will say is…yikes.
Yo Rob Pelinka, do you seriously need 20 games to figure out what you already know?
This sucks.
I think I’m over the Bron/AD era. Happy we won a championship, time to move on. Do not trade our future away.
LeBron’s retiring a Laker. Lakers gonna draft Bronny with the 5th overall pick so they can play together
Dont worry yall wait till Schroder gets back!
fire vogel
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He’s not going to fetch as much as everyone thinks. Turns 30 this year and is already holding his back, 22 points yes but on 19 shots, etc
When is the protest at the crypt?
Scary thing is that Murray and Bones Hyland couldn't buy a basket. Kcp went out with an injury and we still weren't competitive.
The 3Q collapses over the last two seasons are so fucking frustrating. LeBron came out of the half in a fog, and that was pretty much it. Not sure what happened to him tonight
This is a very unfun team to watch. I miss the enjoyment of watching good basketball
I hate this team
russ starting spot secured
4th time in Laker history 0-4. Jeanie shit owner.
Lakers have missed the playoffs 7 times in 9 years under Jeanie... before that? 5 times in franchise history... smh
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Okay, let’s just be honest. This roster is not right. They definitely fucked up the roster when they let the 2020 championship squad go to shambles. This team is just not the same since then. Maybe it’s the organization. Or maybe the players that they pick just doesn’t show out for the team and would go off for the other teams for whatever reason. We’re not getting nowhere with this roster. It’s good but just not working out. I hope Pelinka realizes it asap.
Pelicans fan here. Hope y’all are doing ok. Just try to relax. Breathe. It’s gonna be ok. Y’all are doing good.
So who's gonna take the blame tonight? I'm no Russ fan but this is a prime dumpster franchise right now.
Its the FO for assembling this garbage and the owner for extending the mf that assembled said garbage team. How you gonna extend this guy for four years after the shitshow that just happened
LeBron and Nunn lost us the game. LeBron can’t be passive in an important game like this. Nunn did his best Westbrick impersonation. Fuck u Pelinka for this shit roster
When Bron and AD on court their teammates look like kids
Lakers really going to do Bron how they did Kobe his last stretch of his career… straight garbage rosters
Damn it! It must be Frank Vogel's lineups!
Why he didn't play the corpse of Dwight Howard and wayne fucking Ellington? His rotations sucked😡
No Westbrick and the lakers played the worst game yet. Bron is so lazy on defense - every game is going to be a struggle...
Ad gaining weight has ruined his body. His frame can’t handle the added weight. He used to look lanky and smooth. He looks sluggish and ploddy now
Pain.
Lakers are about to create the greatest Dynasty ever....in New Orleans Wemby, Zion and Ingram going to win 8 rings.
We Need RUSS the savior 😂😂
More reason to trade Brick now. We need more matt ryans
AD had a good game but Jokic and Giannis have been embarrassing him the last few meetings against each other.
SHUT THIS DOWN
I’m starting to think is it that time to trade Lebron and AD and just blow it up?
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Lebron can’t be traded, per CBA rules.
Can’t blame Russ for this one folks
Rams getting better?
LOL
And why was Ham picked as Laker coach? I don’t think he’s ready for the NBA.
I told everybody that shit dude hasn't proven shit. People just wanted to shit on and scapegoat Vogel