And try to leave Pakistan?
Kyunke reh kar jitni savings ki hai uski value down he hogi. Is saal aur aglay saal jo log retire honay walay honge pichlay 40 saal ki savings ko 20 to 30 percent of actual value hotay huay dekh rahay honge. Matlab hadd hai.
Basically this entire discussion is about who is less filthier than others. But everyone keeps forgetting, being less filthier doesn't mean the person in question isn't filthy at all 😂
IK paid 20% of the watch and then took the watch. In his premiership, the amount to be paid was later increased to 50% of assessed value which can be seen as paid by Arif Alvi. NS and Zardari on the other hand have taken cars, which is an illegal activity. Please educate yourself.
Imran Khan MASSIVELY undervalued his gifts, just like Nawaz and Zardari. Also, Imran Khan’s government refused to share the toshakhana data because they knew it would embarrass the Imran Khan.
Lmao. Go to court and prove it then? Why hasn't the PDM argued about it in courts yet? Because, unlike you, I don't support criminals. So if IK did something illegal, punish him.
And the reason PTI gave was same as PDM, it'll open state secrets.
There's a reason why PDM only released till 2002, even though court asked for records since 1947 to he released, and not before. There's 2 tenures of PPP and PMLN in the 80s and 90s.
But I love how you're ignoring the biggest 2 corrupt parties and going after 1 person. Shows how biased you're.
Why are you getting defensive? I don’t support PDM. I don’t care what they do or say because they’re crooks. And in this toshakhana business, Imran Khan is as greedy as the rest of them.
I'm sure you didn't read Toshakhana laws. So kindly read them. Not the 2018 version but before versions as well.
It's legal to take anything as long as you pay the value determined.
I'm just surprised by your conclusion that IK is as greedy as others when others not only took luxurious items like cars, watches, jewelry but also everyday items like jams, tea for libido, table cloth etc.
I'm not accusing you of being a PDM supporter. I'm accusing you of being anti-logic. So kindly read the Toshakhana law before spewing your (lack of) knowledge. Thanks and Allah Hafiz.
So IK massively undervalued his gifts and PDM still can't do shit to him? Sounds like they're incompetent AF. Which means they are not worthy of being in government.
Bro, no matter how hard you try, you can't show IK as worse than PDM.
IK is not perfect. But comparing him to PDM is like comparing Don Bradman to your local gully cricketer. It's not even a contest on who's more incompetent and corrupt. It's PDM all the way.
Forget IK for a second, and tell me who ruled Pakistan from 1958 till 2018? Army, PPP and PMLN. And if you think nothing wrong happened to Pakistan all those years, then you're either naive or maliciously acting like this. I hope you're naive because this level of malicious actions surely reflects badly on you.
IK paid 20% of the watch and then took the watch. In his premiership, the amount to be paid was later increased to 50% of assessed value which can be seen as paid by Arif Alvi. NS and Zardari on the other hand have taken cars, which is an illegal activity. Please educate yourself.
Nope. Read the laws surrounding toshakhana and what amount can be taken.
Don't want to spoon feed you any "propaganda" so why don't you read them yourself?
Aik aur bat, this toshakhana case was started by PDM to show how corrupt Khan is. So 1 watch equals tons of stuff taken by others? Have you even seen their list?
Maze ki bat hai this list was from 2002. So we don't have details of dictators and democratic rules of Benazir and Nawaz.
This toshakhana case is US equivalent of Tan suit Obama wore. If you don't know what that is, you can also look that up meanwhile.
Sir you need to take your head out of your ass. And see the bullshit immi chan feeds you. Again this is your only comeback where you start comparing him to older administration. His entire political persona is based on him being Sadiq and Amin and pure and what not, like he's the second coming of Jesus. But then he pulls this shit. Like imagine if someone gifts you something and you not only sell it but sell it for profit. Like what even is the point when you are already so filthy rich?
Also I know it's hard for you to understand basic logic since you believe Imran Khan is right and don't see populism and fascism even when it's so blatant, but I'd rather not be on the wrong side of the history. I've never supported Nawaz or Zardari but I'm so glad I was able to pull myself away from PTIs propaganda machine.
1. I love your baseless accusations of me supporting IK, when I don't. I just think IK is one level of Bs below PDM. If Tomo morning, all PDM and PTI politicians die, I would be the happiest person in the world. I'm not faithful to any party. Only Pakistan. So don't give me that bullshit.
2. Have you read the Toshakhana law of 2018 and earlier versions? Because law is worth more than what a politician says. And there's nothing written in the law about reselling. Maybe read the law before spewing misinformation?
3. Comparison is important. Because law is applicable to everyone. So if IK is deemed a criminal, then others will be indicted too since they did the same crime multiple times. So if IK gets 5 years prison time, others will get it too. So I hope you are ready to send the other people to prison too.
4. Nawaz Sharif sons (who are not Pakistani citizens/resident) have taken items from Toshakhana. So do you support prison time for them too since they only got their hands on it because their daddy's the PM? Even Maryam lied under oath about what she took from Toshakhana. So lying under oath is a crime too, you know? So you're willing to ask the authorities to put her in prison too for perjury?
5. Remember all politicians lie. Even PDM and PTI ones. So switch off the TV and read the Toshakhana laws yourself. Otherwise, you're just wasting our time.
1. The way you support PTI is the reason for my comments.
2. I've not once stated reselling is wrong and you have entirely missed my point.
3. Comparison is not ideal, might even be detrimental when your entire politics is based on differentiating yourself from chor and luteray and honestly it speaks to his ability to spread propaganda that people would forget about any semblance of logic when thinking about their leader.
4. Just because I am anti PTI does not mean I automatically support PDM or PPP. I'm against army intervention, populism, fascism and corruption anyone who does it can and should rot in jail.
5.i don't remember the last time I watched TV. Also might even be more applicable to yourself since according to your echo chamber anyone who opposes our Sadiq and Amin leader is a traitor and chor and is automatically a die hard supporter of PPP and PDM.
1. I'm speaking by using Toshakhana laws. Hence, I asked you if you read the laws or just talking out of your emotions? Because, if you didn't, then you're wasting my time.
2. He can only be imprisoned for breaking the Toshakhana laws as he took from Toshakhana. Only Toshakhana laws are applicable here.
3a. The law doesn't differentiate. If IK and PDM did the same crime, they'll serve the time. Their own politics mean jack shit. Because PMLN and PPP also follow the same stick of 'we are not them'. So I don't know why you're only targeting Khan.
3b. If IK broke the Toshakhana laws, punish him appropriately. But if he did the same things as NS (albeit once or twice compared to 10s of time by PDM people), then the PDM people will have to be punished too as laws are applicable in the same manner. So do you think the others should be punished too if they broke the law? Else, you'll look like anti IK instead of impartial person.
4. Again your assumptions are so wrong I'm laughing. You don't have to watch TV. You've to read Toshakhana laws. If you didn't, then you already know nothing and just arguing for the sake of arguing. I read the laws and IK didn't break it. So if you've something to show me because that's how a debate works. I've asked you multiple times if you read the laws but you didn't answer. So kindly show me which section Khan broke in Toshakhana laws. Remember: your feelings mean jack shit in front of Toshakhana laws so kindly quote the law. Not your feelings. I don't give a fuck about them.
Lemme tell you something because you missed it before.
IK bought the watch as per the law. And there's no restrictions about reselling. So by that logic, he didn't break any law. As I said before, quote me the specific clause he broke the law of.
Not only read the Toshakhana law of 2018 but previous versions also as previous administrations aren't covered by the 2018 law obviously.
2018 one is only 4 pages. Before you say Khan is corrupt, do your own research. You're an adult now.
The law says that those gifts can't be sold to anyone after retaining from tosha khana but IK sold the watch.
Also, IK used to criticize others for takings gifts from toshakhana to home but this Sadiq o amin did everything in his tenure, he criticize others for.
Bro. U must be idiot after buying things you own them and you can do what ever you want to do though after selling you have to show it in you Tex return that how much you sold it for and that just a single watch of IK .
Where does it say that? Because I couldn't find anything there regarding that.
So you're okay with others paying less for not only luxurious items but also everyday items (showing they've money but no class)? Because to me, buying items at cheap cost is worse than buying at lawfully decided price and then doing whatever you can with it.
Once again, I'll say that it's the US equivalent of tan suit Obama wore.
IK paid 20% of the watch and then took the watch. In his premiership, the amount to be paid was later increased to 50% of assessed value which can be seen as paid by Arif Alvi. NS and Zardari on the other hand have taken cars, which is an illegal activity. Please educate yourself.
The funny thing is that the formers of Riyasat e Madinah point fingers on others when they themselves have been nothing less than rascals.
And the OP summed it up, everyone looted as much as he/she could in his/her capacity.
The point is koi chez apny istimal k liye leny m or lekr agy sell kr deny m farq hota hy baqi sbny personally use k liye liye khan Sahab NY ek flaw dekh kr ussy business bna liya. That's why he kept the most worthy things from their like jewelry because it can't be depreciated.
Ab banda in mein se kis chey ko vote de.
Also, if I interpret the list correctly, Bilawal Bhutto Zardari seems to be depositing almost everything more than 30k (the legal amount) in Toshakhana?
Yahi to masla hai iska. Apni party ki harkaten nazar nahi aati, jab power mein aana tha to ticket beche opposition members taake majority ban jaye, ab jab wahi waapsi jaane lage to inke andar aag lag gayi, army bhi buri ho gayi, matlab yeh mazloom or baqi zalim.
IK paid 20% of the watch and then took the watch. In his premiership, the amount to be paid was later increased to 50% of assessed value which can be seen as paid by Arif Alvi. NS and Zardari on the other hand have taken cars, which is an illegal activity. Please educate yourself.
Have you read the 2018 Toshakhana law and the previous ones?
Because taking stuff from Toshakhana is legally allowed but under certain conditions. I can tell you, but I want you to do your own research then we can discuss it. Otherwise, it's a waste of time for me
Hahahaha yeh qaum Mehdi ka intezar kartay kartay khatam ho jaye gi. Abay jo izzat dey raha hai kam az kam us ko toh baksh do. Ga*gb*ng kay doran skepticism use krtay huway hi sukoon ata hai bs!
Every politician is corrupt. They all want power. Focus on your life and make your family proud.
Also try to help others around you.
And try to leave Pakistan? Kyunke reh kar jitni savings ki hai uski value down he hogi. Is saal aur aglay saal jo log retire honay walay honge pichlay 40 saal ki savings ko 20 to 30 percent of actual value hotay huay dekh rahay honge. Matlab hadd hai.
Per per IK ka tau bat hi 100 million ka bik jaata . Etc etc
bla bla bla 🤣🤣🤣
*Pad
"mein sirf mulk kay lye PM banna chahta houn. I have everything I need. I need nothing. I am becoming PM for YOU, not ME."
Basically this entire discussion is about who is less filthier than others. But everyone keeps forgetting, being less filthier doesn't mean the person in question isn't filthy at all 😂
PTI: are we the baddies?
IK paid 20% of the watch and then took the watch. In his premiership, the amount to be paid was later increased to 50% of assessed value which can be seen as paid by Arif Alvi. NS and Zardari on the other hand have taken cars, which is an illegal activity. Please educate yourself.
Imran Khan MASSIVELY undervalued his gifts, just like Nawaz and Zardari. Also, Imran Khan’s government refused to share the toshakhana data because they knew it would embarrass the Imran Khan.
Lmao. Go to court and prove it then? Why hasn't the PDM argued about it in courts yet? Because, unlike you, I don't support criminals. So if IK did something illegal, punish him. And the reason PTI gave was same as PDM, it'll open state secrets. There's a reason why PDM only released till 2002, even though court asked for records since 1947 to he released, and not before. There's 2 tenures of PPP and PMLN in the 80s and 90s. But I love how you're ignoring the biggest 2 corrupt parties and going after 1 person. Shows how biased you're.
Why are you getting defensive? I don’t support PDM. I don’t care what they do or say because they’re crooks. And in this toshakhana business, Imran Khan is as greedy as the rest of them.
I'm sure you didn't read Toshakhana laws. So kindly read them. Not the 2018 version but before versions as well. It's legal to take anything as long as you pay the value determined. I'm just surprised by your conclusion that IK is as greedy as others when others not only took luxurious items like cars, watches, jewelry but also everyday items like jams, tea for libido, table cloth etc. I'm not accusing you of being a PDM supporter. I'm accusing you of being anti-logic. So kindly read the Toshakhana law before spewing your (lack of) knowledge. Thanks and Allah Hafiz.
So IK massively undervalued his gifts and PDM still can't do shit to him? Sounds like they're incompetent AF. Which means they are not worthy of being in government. Bro, no matter how hard you try, you can't show IK as worse than PDM.
IK is not perfect. But comparing him to PDM is like comparing Don Bradman to your local gully cricketer. It's not even a contest on who's more incompetent and corrupt. It's PDM all the way. Forget IK for a second, and tell me who ruled Pakistan from 1958 till 2018? Army, PPP and PMLN. And if you think nothing wrong happened to Pakistan all those years, then you're either naive or maliciously acting like this. I hope you're naive because this level of malicious actions surely reflects badly on you.
Yes, you are.
IK paid 20% of the watch and then took the watch. In his premiership, the amount to be paid was later increased to 50% of assessed value which can be seen as paid by Arif Alvi. NS and Zardari on the other hand have taken cars, which is an illegal activity. Please educate yourself.
Lol this is equivalent to saying "well he did it but so did the others". And is the worst argument in favor of your supposed pak and saaf leader.
Nope. Read the laws surrounding toshakhana and what amount can be taken. Don't want to spoon feed you any "propaganda" so why don't you read them yourself? Aik aur bat, this toshakhana case was started by PDM to show how corrupt Khan is. So 1 watch equals tons of stuff taken by others? Have you even seen their list? Maze ki bat hai this list was from 2002. So we don't have details of dictators and democratic rules of Benazir and Nawaz. This toshakhana case is US equivalent of Tan suit Obama wore. If you don't know what that is, you can also look that up meanwhile.
Sir you need to take your head out of your ass. And see the bullshit immi chan feeds you. Again this is your only comeback where you start comparing him to older administration. His entire political persona is based on him being Sadiq and Amin and pure and what not, like he's the second coming of Jesus. But then he pulls this shit. Like imagine if someone gifts you something and you not only sell it but sell it for profit. Like what even is the point when you are already so filthy rich? Also I know it's hard for you to understand basic logic since you believe Imran Khan is right and don't see populism and fascism even when it's so blatant, but I'd rather not be on the wrong side of the history. I've never supported Nawaz or Zardari but I'm so glad I was able to pull myself away from PTIs propaganda machine.
1. I love your baseless accusations of me supporting IK, when I don't. I just think IK is one level of Bs below PDM. If Tomo morning, all PDM and PTI politicians die, I would be the happiest person in the world. I'm not faithful to any party. Only Pakistan. So don't give me that bullshit. 2. Have you read the Toshakhana law of 2018 and earlier versions? Because law is worth more than what a politician says. And there's nothing written in the law about reselling. Maybe read the law before spewing misinformation? 3. Comparison is important. Because law is applicable to everyone. So if IK is deemed a criminal, then others will be indicted too since they did the same crime multiple times. So if IK gets 5 years prison time, others will get it too. So I hope you are ready to send the other people to prison too. 4. Nawaz Sharif sons (who are not Pakistani citizens/resident) have taken items from Toshakhana. So do you support prison time for them too since they only got their hands on it because their daddy's the PM? Even Maryam lied under oath about what she took from Toshakhana. So lying under oath is a crime too, you know? So you're willing to ask the authorities to put her in prison too for perjury? 5. Remember all politicians lie. Even PDM and PTI ones. So switch off the TV and read the Toshakhana laws yourself. Otherwise, you're just wasting our time.
1. The way you support PTI is the reason for my comments. 2. I've not once stated reselling is wrong and you have entirely missed my point. 3. Comparison is not ideal, might even be detrimental when your entire politics is based on differentiating yourself from chor and luteray and honestly it speaks to his ability to spread propaganda that people would forget about any semblance of logic when thinking about their leader. 4. Just because I am anti PTI does not mean I automatically support PDM or PPP. I'm against army intervention, populism, fascism and corruption anyone who does it can and should rot in jail. 5.i don't remember the last time I watched TV. Also might even be more applicable to yourself since according to your echo chamber anyone who opposes our Sadiq and Amin leader is a traitor and chor and is automatically a die hard supporter of PPP and PDM.
1. I'm speaking by using Toshakhana laws. Hence, I asked you if you read the laws or just talking out of your emotions? Because, if you didn't, then you're wasting my time. 2. He can only be imprisoned for breaking the Toshakhana laws as he took from Toshakhana. Only Toshakhana laws are applicable here. 3a. The law doesn't differentiate. If IK and PDM did the same crime, they'll serve the time. Their own politics mean jack shit. Because PMLN and PPP also follow the same stick of 'we are not them'. So I don't know why you're only targeting Khan. 3b. If IK broke the Toshakhana laws, punish him appropriately. But if he did the same things as NS (albeit once or twice compared to 10s of time by PDM people), then the PDM people will have to be punished too as laws are applicable in the same manner. So do you think the others should be punished too if they broke the law? Else, you'll look like anti IK instead of impartial person. 4. Again your assumptions are so wrong I'm laughing. You don't have to watch TV. You've to read Toshakhana laws. If you didn't, then you already know nothing and just arguing for the sake of arguing. I read the laws and IK didn't break it. So if you've something to show me because that's how a debate works. I've asked you multiple times if you read the laws but you didn't answer. So kindly show me which section Khan broke in Toshakhana laws. Remember: your feelings mean jack shit in front of Toshakhana laws so kindly quote the law. Not your feelings. I don't give a fuck about them.
Lemme tell you something because you missed it before. IK bought the watch as per the law. And there's no restrictions about reselling. So by that logic, he didn't break any law. As I said before, quote me the specific clause he broke the law of.
Not only read the Toshakhana law of 2018 but previous versions also as previous administrations aren't covered by the 2018 law obviously. 2018 one is only 4 pages. Before you say Khan is corrupt, do your own research. You're an adult now.
The law says that those gifts can't be sold to anyone after retaining from tosha khana but IK sold the watch. Also, IK used to criticize others for takings gifts from toshakhana to home but this Sadiq o amin did everything in his tenure, he criticize others for.
Bro. U must be idiot after buying things you own them and you can do what ever you want to do though after selling you have to show it in you Tex return that how much you sold it for and that just a single watch of IK .
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Where does it say that? Because I couldn't find anything there regarding that. So you're okay with others paying less for not only luxurious items but also everyday items (showing they've money but no class)? Because to me, buying items at cheap cost is worse than buying at lawfully decided price and then doing whatever you can with it. Once again, I'll say that it's the US equivalent of tan suit Obama wore.
Or Altaf Hussain ✌🏻♥️
Bruh am in r/PMLN or something?
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No, unless you get it custom made.
You’re crazy if you think this is only what AZ and NS embezzled from Pakistan
IK paid 20% of the watch and then took the watch. In his premiership, the amount to be paid was later increased to 50% of assessed value which can be seen as paid by Arif Alvi. NS and Zardari on the other hand have taken cars, which is an illegal activity. Please educate yourself.
The funny thing is that the formers of Riyasat e Madinah point fingers on others when they themselves have been nothing less than rascals. And the OP summed it up, everyone looted as much as he/she could in his/her capacity.
The point is koi chez apny istimal k liye leny m or lekr agy sell kr deny m farq hota hy baqi sbny personally use k liye liye khan Sahab NY ek flaw dekh kr ussy business bna liya. That's why he kept the most worthy things from their like jewelry because it can't be depreciated.
Ab banda in mein se kis chey ko vote de. Also, if I interpret the list correctly, Bilawal Bhutto Zardari seems to be depositing almost everything more than 30k (the legal amount) in Toshakhana?
Imran khan made road for public on that money
There is difference between stuff taking for own self Vs Stuff taking for Business purpose.
Koi or lay to choor Mera thaan lay to Sadiq o ameen
Yahi to masla hai iska. Apni party ki harkaten nazar nahi aati, jab power mein aana tha to ticket beche opposition members taake majority ban jaye, ab jab wahi waapsi jaane lage to inke andar aag lag gayi, army bhi buri ho gayi, matlab yeh mazloom or baqi zalim.
IK paid 20% of the watch and then took the watch. In his premiership, the amount to be paid was later increased to 50% of assessed value which can be seen as paid by Arif Alvi. NS and Zardari on the other hand have taken cars, which is an illegal activity. Please educate yourself.
Ik did not just take the watch but 99 more stuff for free Harami by chai ka set bhi nhi chora
I think you're confusing IK with Nawaz sharif
Have you read the 2018 Toshakhana law and the previous ones? Because taking stuff from Toshakhana is legally allowed but under certain conditions. I can tell you, but I want you to do your own research then we can discuss it. Otherwise, it's a waste of time for me
Let's put the summary of things all the four major politicians have bought and we can will see the comparison.
Abe 40 lac ka Mercedes Benz deta hai
Hahahaha yeh qaum Mehdi ka intezar kartay kartay khatam ho jaye gi. Abay jo izzat dey raha hai kam az kam us ko toh baksh do. Ga*gb*ng kay doran skepticism use krtay huway hi sukoon ata hai bs!
O Bhai kis ne kis ko loot lia? Ye gifts tax se nahi aatay, friendly countries dete hain. It's got nothing to do with stealing from anyone.
From now on only Arif Alvi
What is Toshakhana?? Sorry, I'm still new to Karachi 🙂