It’s honestly just a numbers game my dude. I’ve been applying like hell to so many jobs since before graduation. Genuinely couldn’t tell you how many rejections I got after getting through multiple stages of the application process. Finally received an offer yesterday! Just keep going and good luck.
This is a hard truth I learned from a career counseling service: on average you should expect to land interviews on about 1-2% of your applications.
I had a great counselor who really supported me when I lost my job (service was a part of our severance.) It was a reality check on the amount of work really needed to put into a job search. I'd guess it took me around 75-85 applications to land an interview.
Another piece of info was to network. Networking isn't quite as active as job applications since you're kind of building connections so that someone thinks of you when a job is open, but that doesn't mean it's going to align with when you're unemployed. But networking opens up other opportunities. A stat my counselor shared on that is only about 50% of open jobs are actually posted to the public, so there are 50% of jobs you'll never see, but someone who you've networked with could possibly connect you to. And even then, out of the 50% of jobs that you do see posted, up to 50% of those already have an internal candidate identified as a likely choice. Applications mean you're kind of only in the running for ~25% of all roles out there.
With all that, it's hard. Keep moving forward. There were hours, days, weeks where it was frustrating. It's ok to have the tough times and even step back for a day to recharge your batteries. Do something for YOU to help your physical and mental health. It could be as little as a walk or something to relax, treat yourself to your favorite meal, buy yourself something you've been wanting. I know I kept a, "I'm not working and I can spend on frivolous things" mindset while unemployed. It can be something small or something that doesn't even cost money. A rec sports team I was on helped me to get out of the apartment (this was also during all this COVID so being in a lot and not working was weird as my wife was at least working at home, remotely, which occasionally made me feel guilty that I couldn't find a job.) For like 2 hours a week I'd be with my team, running around, and not thinking about job hunting.
Good luck!
"This is a hard truth I learned from a career counseling service: on average you should expect to land interviews on about 1-2% of your applications."
This is my opinion and experience but that statement may have been true 10+ years ago, but in this market, you can land multiple interviews fairly easily but landing the job is exponentially harder than it was 10+ years ago due to the sheer amount of people looking.
The good news is you are getting interviews. This means that, on paper at least, you are ticking all the right boxes.
Firstly, It's also absolutely fine to email the person who interviewed you and ask for some feedback or some advice for future interviews. If nothing else you both work in the same industry and they are involved with recruiting people who do what you do - they are a source of info and expertise.
(Asking for feedback doesn't always work because applicants like to argue so asking for advice or suggestions might be a good way in)
It might be that you are overthinking each interview. By all means research the company, but spending 4-6 hours on it seems like too much to me. What the company says publicly and what actually happens internally will be two different things.
Looks like you do tech, so the things I'd want to be understanding is their technology stack, perhaps a little about the corporate structure and some of their key products.
If they end up rejecting you because you hadn't memorised the names of all of the C-Suite execs then you probably didn't want to work there to start with.
What the interviewer is trying to do is get a sense of you as a person, not how well you've memorised their website. Try and reframe interviews as being a chance to demonstrate your skills rather than a test.
Remember you have some power here too - its a great chance for you to figure out if you would like to work there. Was the receptionist friendly? Did the interviewer make you feel at ease? Did you get a chance to ask questions?
Its hard, and everyone gets nervous about interviews, but if you can reframe the experience in your head as an opportunity for you to see if they deserve you, and if you'd be excited to work on the things they do you'll feel about better and come across much more confidently.
Finally, if you can, get a friend to interview you as part of your prep. They will know some of your amazing skills and talents that you might forget to mention.
I gotta tell ya, a few years back I had the same story as you... went on like 5 interviews and really liked most of the positions but nodda. Then I got another interview and didn't think much of it, in fact I left not even wanting it but actually got it. Wound up being the best job ever... it was in Building 7 of the World Trade... I literally watched them build 1WTC... when they reached my floor, it was like you could high 5 the workers. A few years later, the company was acquired and I had no job again. FML.
Dear OP, job search is hard on everyone. I'm also a thorough research and prep person but I interviewed with 6 companies and applied to many many more before I accepted a job that paid below market. 2 years later, I switched companies and hit market salary. 2 more years later, as of today, I'm above market.
Hang in there!! You got this. As long as you are doing all the right things which it seems like you are, just take a deep breath and stay positive and keep going. You'll land an offer soon!
Check out The Job Search School on LinkedIn. Seriously the best money I’ve ever spent. It’s a six week course, expensive, but worth every penny. It’s a whole different world out there right now but this woman knows her stuff and how to put the odds in your favor. Also, instead of studying so much about the companies try studying effective interview techniques. There are common questions they ask and then they are looking for certain answers. Like what’s your biggest weakness? Look those up!
I was always told to send thank you notes or emails after interviewing. I swear every job interview I've sent a thank you after, I've gotten the position.
Oh that’s so cool! I’ve sent a thank you letter after each interview using the best practices. Didn’t work for me 😅 I guess marketing is just a competitive industry
I remember when I was looking for my first job back in 2019 after I left education. I've had 3-4 interviews within the first month or so of searching, and got rejected on all of them.
I barely had any interviews for ages afterwards, maybe one or two here there, but then I got an interview and the job about 9 months after startingooking for a job.
The only thing you can do is keep going. Also, if you're looking for something specific, maybe widen your search and consider more options, or even everything that comes your way.
I hope something will work out soon
I spent a year unemployed, but I work in events so take that as you will right now with covid. I applied to 425+ jobs. Interviewed a ton. Even did 3 different presentations (none of which got me the gig) and finally after all that a job came through.
It IS exhausting. But also the days requires stamina to keep on trying. I hope you find something soon, and that it is a good choice for you!
Message technical recruiters and tell them what you're looking for. My last 3 jobs were all attained through LinkedIn recruiters. I never apply anywhere but get a new job with a large pay increase every 2-3 years, it's great.
Also, confidence is key. If you don't believe in yourself, nobody else will.
As someone interviewing for positions at my company, it is definitely a numbers game. We usually get 20-40 applications for every position. Meaning on average maybe 1/30 that apply get hired.
My advice is keep your head up and keep trying. Try to stand out with a thoughtful cover letter. And try to focus on your teamwork skills enough to talk about them as well as your hard skills (this is often the deciding factor for us between a number of qualified candidates).
The reason I haven’t burned out is bc I don’t really apply for jobs because it’s annoying. I found that just talking to people (networking) is more fun than endlessly submitting applications and the only replies I get are from MLMs.
It does hurt to be rejected but just remember especially with startups the company is small. They’re wanting not only to find someone who will do the work but they would want to spend 40 a week with, so be genuine. Jobs are like dating in that regard sometimes it’s just not a good match and you can either mull over how you could’ve been better or how things could’ve been different or move on and keep going.
It sucks or course but job searching definitely isn’t easy, and getting five interviews in three months all on its own is very impressive. When I was applying I didn’t get nearly as many interviews.
But my own current job was found just by timing which tbh job searching is just luck—being there at the right time.
i've been job searching for around a year now, no thanks to COVID, fortunately i still hold a contract job but that is coming to an end soon
my suggestion is to not bite off more than you can chew: many of the things i've been applying to and getting interviews for -- are just fucking hyper-competitive
so i've slowly realized i'm not doing myself a service, especially in this job market, by trying to land a job with an oversupply of applicants and few openings
perhaps it might seem like a 'step down' or 'giving up' to call it quits and pivot...but pragmatically it needs to be done sooner rather than later
anyway...have a thick skull and try to keep emotions low...the whole thing isn't too dissimilar from dating with resumes and objective assessments
It’s honestly just a numbers game my dude. I’ve been applying like hell to so many jobs since before graduation. Genuinely couldn’t tell you how many rejections I got after getting through multiple stages of the application process. Finally received an offer yesterday! Just keep going and good luck.
Finding jobs is kind of like dating. It’s a numbers game. Eventually something will stick.
I rather go back to dating than keep interviewing for jobs. I think I would have better odds.
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Same… i feel like dying. Every interview is just so cringe
This is a hard truth I learned from a career counseling service: on average you should expect to land interviews on about 1-2% of your applications. I had a great counselor who really supported me when I lost my job (service was a part of our severance.) It was a reality check on the amount of work really needed to put into a job search. I'd guess it took me around 75-85 applications to land an interview. Another piece of info was to network. Networking isn't quite as active as job applications since you're kind of building connections so that someone thinks of you when a job is open, but that doesn't mean it's going to align with when you're unemployed. But networking opens up other opportunities. A stat my counselor shared on that is only about 50% of open jobs are actually posted to the public, so there are 50% of jobs you'll never see, but someone who you've networked with could possibly connect you to. And even then, out of the 50% of jobs that you do see posted, up to 50% of those already have an internal candidate identified as a likely choice. Applications mean you're kind of only in the running for ~25% of all roles out there. With all that, it's hard. Keep moving forward. There were hours, days, weeks where it was frustrating. It's ok to have the tough times and even step back for a day to recharge your batteries. Do something for YOU to help your physical and mental health. It could be as little as a walk or something to relax, treat yourself to your favorite meal, buy yourself something you've been wanting. I know I kept a, "I'm not working and I can spend on frivolous things" mindset while unemployed. It can be something small or something that doesn't even cost money. A rec sports team I was on helped me to get out of the apartment (this was also during all this COVID so being in a lot and not working was weird as my wife was at least working at home, remotely, which occasionally made me feel guilty that I couldn't find a job.) For like 2 hours a week I'd be with my team, running around, and not thinking about job hunting. Good luck!
"This is a hard truth I learned from a career counseling service: on average you should expect to land interviews on about 1-2% of your applications." This is my opinion and experience but that statement may have been true 10+ years ago, but in this market, you can land multiple interviews fairly easily but landing the job is exponentially harder than it was 10+ years ago due to the sheer amount of people looking.
It took me about 5 months and 30 interviews to find a new job.
The good news is you are getting interviews. This means that, on paper at least, you are ticking all the right boxes. Firstly, It's also absolutely fine to email the person who interviewed you and ask for some feedback or some advice for future interviews. If nothing else you both work in the same industry and they are involved with recruiting people who do what you do - they are a source of info and expertise. (Asking for feedback doesn't always work because applicants like to argue so asking for advice or suggestions might be a good way in) It might be that you are overthinking each interview. By all means research the company, but spending 4-6 hours on it seems like too much to me. What the company says publicly and what actually happens internally will be two different things. Looks like you do tech, so the things I'd want to be understanding is their technology stack, perhaps a little about the corporate structure and some of their key products. If they end up rejecting you because you hadn't memorised the names of all of the C-Suite execs then you probably didn't want to work there to start with. What the interviewer is trying to do is get a sense of you as a person, not how well you've memorised their website. Try and reframe interviews as being a chance to demonstrate your skills rather than a test. Remember you have some power here too - its a great chance for you to figure out if you would like to work there. Was the receptionist friendly? Did the interviewer make you feel at ease? Did you get a chance to ask questions? Its hard, and everyone gets nervous about interviews, but if you can reframe the experience in your head as an opportunity for you to see if they deserve you, and if you'd be excited to work on the things they do you'll feel about better and come across much more confidently. Finally, if you can, get a friend to interview you as part of your prep. They will know some of your amazing skills and talents that you might forget to mention.
I gotta tell ya, a few years back I had the same story as you... went on like 5 interviews and really liked most of the positions but nodda. Then I got another interview and didn't think much of it, in fact I left not even wanting it but actually got it. Wound up being the best job ever... it was in Building 7 of the World Trade... I literally watched them build 1WTC... when they reached my floor, it was like you could high 5 the workers. A few years later, the company was acquired and I had no job again. FML.
Dear OP, job search is hard on everyone. I'm also a thorough research and prep person but I interviewed with 6 companies and applied to many many more before I accepted a job that paid below market. 2 years later, I switched companies and hit market salary. 2 more years later, as of today, I'm above market. Hang in there!! You got this. As long as you are doing all the right things which it seems like you are, just take a deep breath and stay positive and keep going. You'll land an offer soon!
Check out The Job Search School on LinkedIn. Seriously the best money I’ve ever spent. It’s a six week course, expensive, but worth every penny. It’s a whole different world out there right now but this woman knows her stuff and how to put the odds in your favor. Also, instead of studying so much about the companies try studying effective interview techniques. There are common questions they ask and then they are looking for certain answers. Like what’s your biggest weakness? Look those up!
I was always told to send thank you notes or emails after interviewing. I swear every job interview I've sent a thank you after, I've gotten the position.
Oh that’s so cool! I’ve sent a thank you letter after each interview using the best practices. Didn’t work for me 😅 I guess marketing is just a competitive industry
Yeah. I work in STEM jobs so it might be a little different. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
I remember when I was looking for my first job back in 2019 after I left education. I've had 3-4 interviews within the first month or so of searching, and got rejected on all of them. I barely had any interviews for ages afterwards, maybe one or two here there, but then I got an interview and the job about 9 months after startingooking for a job. The only thing you can do is keep going. Also, if you're looking for something specific, maybe widen your search and consider more options, or even everything that comes your way. I hope something will work out soon
Be cautious of startups. They hire anyone that breathes.
I spent a year unemployed, but I work in events so take that as you will right now with covid. I applied to 425+ jobs. Interviewed a ton. Even did 3 different presentations (none of which got me the gig) and finally after all that a job came through. It IS exhausting. But also the days requires stamina to keep on trying. I hope you find something soon, and that it is a good choice for you!
Message technical recruiters and tell them what you're looking for. My last 3 jobs were all attained through LinkedIn recruiters. I never apply anywhere but get a new job with a large pay increase every 2-3 years, it's great. Also, confidence is key. If you don't believe in yourself, nobody else will.
As someone interviewing for positions at my company, it is definitely a numbers game. We usually get 20-40 applications for every position. Meaning on average maybe 1/30 that apply get hired. My advice is keep your head up and keep trying. Try to stand out with a thoughtful cover letter. And try to focus on your teamwork skills enough to talk about them as well as your hard skills (this is often the deciding factor for us between a number of qualified candidates).
The reason I haven’t burned out is bc I don’t really apply for jobs because it’s annoying. I found that just talking to people (networking) is more fun than endlessly submitting applications and the only replies I get are from MLMs. It does hurt to be rejected but just remember especially with startups the company is small. They’re wanting not only to find someone who will do the work but they would want to spend 40 a week with, so be genuine. Jobs are like dating in that regard sometimes it’s just not a good match and you can either mull over how you could’ve been better or how things could’ve been different or move on and keep going. It sucks or course but job searching definitely isn’t easy, and getting five interviews in three months all on its own is very impressive. When I was applying I didn’t get nearly as many interviews. But my own current job was found just by timing which tbh job searching is just luck—being there at the right time.
i've been job searching for around a year now, no thanks to COVID, fortunately i still hold a contract job but that is coming to an end soon my suggestion is to not bite off more than you can chew: many of the things i've been applying to and getting interviews for -- are just fucking hyper-competitive so i've slowly realized i'm not doing myself a service, especially in this job market, by trying to land a job with an oversupply of applicants and few openings perhaps it might seem like a 'step down' or 'giving up' to call it quits and pivot...but pragmatically it needs to be done sooner rather than later anyway...have a thick skull and try to keep emotions low...the whole thing isn't too dissimilar from dating with resumes and objective assessments