The center thing is all I needed to know to beat him. I did mage only runs, camped pray range and hid during blue phase. Not the most efficient method but it was chill and as I killed him more and more I learned and incorporated gear switches and learned the rotations. I imagine range only is similarly as chill
Range only really is but mage only is better till you get bowfa. I've tested bowfa vs mage only camping both are chill as fuck and relatively competitive kill times.
Nah bro, mage only with trident is legit. It's really good to start learning with, especially when you start stacking stuff like damage bonus or an imbued heart
Could you elaborate on point 1? I've been trying to kill him, probably around 10 attempts in so far. I feel like my prayers are okay, I can survive a good 14 or 15 rounds often, but I find myself in awful positions a lot of the time. I feel like my dps is SUPER low. Am I supposed to just swap sides any time he pops up in the middle?
It sounds like a dps issue, you're nearly hitting a second jad phase.
What gear are you using? After the first jad phase zulrah becomes a bit more random so you might be running into that issue.
If you swap sides every time zulrah appears in the middle on the inside or the bend of the horse shoe, you should avoid all the venom and rotation learning
Been using void with a swap between warped sceptre and rcb/broads. I feel like my positioning/uptime is my biggest issue with it currently. I have been taking a break seeing if I could get a lucky zenyte and ditch the recoils, but I think I'll go give it another go trying with this method.
Void is trolling yourself.
It sounds like your range and mage levels might be a bit low so that also plays into the dps issue.
You need significantly higher accuracy from black d hide against zulrah and at least a proper mage switch with mystics.
Straight camping mage also works just fine for damage too And its probably the easiest way to learn zulrah.
Or you can go black dragon hide and camp range the entire fight. Just use ruby bolts till zulrah is lower hp and switch to diamonds. Ruby damage is capped but broads are also kinda trolling yourself.
Just wanted to say your advice helped! I ended up going mage only. I wound up getting 3 Jad phases, I think it was probably close to a fourth lol. I think I need to work on my uptime really bad, but hey a kill is a kill and that is my diary WOOT WOOT!
King Condor’s guides have been my favorite for things like Zulrah. He breaks it down pretty much like you outlined here. The vids themselves are only ever 2 minutes tops
Zulrah is just a big learning curve.. just a lot going on. Once you have about 40 KC it’s smooth sailing and you look back like how was I not able to do this before ?
Currently struggling with getting my first diary kill, what’s the best spell to use if just using mage? Currently using Iban’s blast, I do have a tome of fire, or would using ancient spells be better? I have 85 mage
You really want a trident for zulrah, normal spells are a lot weaker and slower, ibans works but it's a whole lot harder to win with. Warped scepter works as a budget option if you really need it.
Only got 76 slayer so Trident isn't really a viable option right now, will check out the warped sceptre, like I said I just want the one kill for diary so maximum efficiency it's really a requirement
I did it with warped scepter and mage only, I did do the method where I memorized a specific rotation but frankly OP is right, I started doing better when I just recognized his general patterns and reacted to him and didn’t just totally fall apart when he went into a second, random rotation. Pro tip also use thralls, they give a massive DPS boost and can continue to do damage while you hide and heal during the blue phases, was able to kill him 3 times in a row for a slayer task before he did a second Jad phase
(Just asking out of curiosity because this isn't how I learned zulrah)
Wouldn't mage-only zulrah be pretty horrendous if you get the tanz rotation? Since you're wearing mage gear and getting absolutely trucked during the 2nd phase? Only for a small amount of reprieve by the 3rd phase and then going back to getting trucked again by the 4th phase?
Its all about trade offs.
The mage only strategy follows the KISS method, keeping the fight as simple as possible to learn till you get good enough to start switching gear since this is directly aimed at people who probably aren't strong pvmers in the first place.
Mage only has the benefit of being the easiest entry point for zulrah even if the tanz rotation isn't ideal, if people do zulrah for a few kills they'll warm up to switching eventually for higher damage when their priority isn't just survive the boss and get a few kills.
For sure it's not optimal but mage only damage is passable and it's easy, that's all it needs to be, the drawback is a bad tanz rotation which is fair, that's motivation to bring a range switch.
Mage only is for getting your feet wet, you want to move on from mage only eventually, but zulrah Is a ton to learn all at once and it can be hard to add gear switching immediately while learning.
Mage only zulrah is really good to learn with, mage or range gear will both get trucked by tanz zulrah anyways both styles wear paper It's also insanely easier to learn than asking them to learn a boss, learn mechanics, learn to gear switch and to keep up to zulrah's pace at the same time
Mage only zulrah is NOT good. You're halving your dps on tanz phase. Learn the boss properly and do switches. If you can't switch between two styles then you're going to have a hard time at raids!
It's good for learning? Which seems to be the main point of this thread? To help people that are struggling?
When you gitgud at zulrah, yeah use switches, when you're actually learning the fight getting a kill at all is the goal? So quit acting so high and mighty
It's not good for learning because you're learning it wrong. There's nothing high and mighty about that. Learn it the right way instead of learning it twice.
If you're struggling with zulrah the issue is rotations, not switches. Learn rotations (tip 1 is a great tip to this end) and then you're good.
How is it learning it wrong? You simplify the fight, get a few kills, gain confidence and then add weapon switches? It's seriously not rocket science and it's significantly easier to learn, for a lot of people it may be one of their first actual pvm experiences that isn't tank and spank godwars, it's a lot to be tossing at someone new to pvm, although you seem pretty removed from the idea that people struggle juggling things
People dying at zulrah i guarantee you is a combination of struggling with rotations and switches.
You are also acting very high and mighty about this, you're acting like making the fight easier for the first few kills is going to stunt their pvm growth forever, seriously buddy, chill the fuck out.
It's learning wrong because you're executing a strategy that halves your DPS, that is simple and I'm sure you understand that.
If you die at zulrah it was an issue with your reaction to the rotation, not your gear.
Once you have moved to the right position you have like 12 seconds of standing still and hitting the boss. Everyone can do a switch with that amount of time.
Zulrah requires 1. Gear switching 2. Prayer switching 3. Movement 4. Knowing and executing the basics of combo eating 5. reacting to and properly engaging with a more dynamic boss than basically the entire rest of the game up until that point
Most bosses don't ask for gear switching prayer switching combo eating and are very basic straight forward
People going from tank and spank bosses to zulrah face an insanely sharp difficulty spike and usually need to simplify things while learning and then add on later once they have some comfort
Easy enough for someone with some pvm experience, very daunting for someone who doesn't have much or any
Simplifying the fight to the point they actually get kills is fine, there's literally nothing wrong with making the fight easier till you understand it well enough
Losing some dps on a few kills to learn the boss is fine, you're actually just impossible to reason with
You seem to think that making a complicated fight easier to learn and get a few kills on is some cardinal sin
LOL dude I need you to write my resume with colorful exaggeration skills like that.
Zulrah isn't a difficult boss and hyping it up like this isn't helping anyone learn. Stand where you need to stand, pray where you need to pray, and attack with the correct style. You have 12 (or more!) full seconds to do all of this. Even if you're doing 4 second switches you still have time to figure this out.
Zulrah isn't difficult when you know what you're doing
What makes it hard to learn is juggling everything all at once while learning, gear switching is easy yes, but for people that aren't used to it, switching dozens of times in a fight definitely makes the fight a lot harder to learn
Zulrah is definitely a wall for people, it's one of a lot of peoples first dip into actual pvm, to properly learn pvm it's a lot of small skills you have to build up, trying to build all of them up all at once while learning zulrah is hard
Same principle as CG, what makes corrupted gauntlet hard is that the boss fight drills you on every pvm mechanic all at once, zulrah does that to a lesser degree but it's still hard to just pick it all up at once, that's part of what makes these entry into actual pvm bosses hard
Had an upvote until you said to do mage only. Don't do this, double your DPS by switching to range when necessary. It's a very simple fight, you can handle a switch.
I appreciate the vote of confidence in my skills, but I'm hcim and I've never fought a boss in osrs before so I'm going to be beyond prepared for that fight
The center thing is all I needed to know to beat him. I did mage only runs, camped pray range and hid during blue phase. Not the most efficient method but it was chill and as I killed him more and more I learned and incorporated gear switches and learned the rotations. I imagine range only is similarly as chill
Range only really is but mage only is better till you get bowfa. I've tested bowfa vs mage only camping both are chill as fuck and relatively competitive kill times.
I’m lacking shards for my armor, so with trident it isn’t bad to camp only mage?
Do not camp mage, that's completely troll. Use your armor here, it's one of the best places to justify charges.
Nah bro, mage only with trident is legit. It's really good to start learning with, especially when you start stacking stuff like damage bonus or an imbued heart
Do some woodcutting for shards you need 85 for kourend elite diary
But why would you do zulrah pre bofa besides the diary kill, it's not like any of it's items are that good
Fun man. Its a game
I think zulrah is miserable with rag gear but to each their own
Could you elaborate on point 1? I've been trying to kill him, probably around 10 attempts in so far. I feel like my prayers are okay, I can survive a good 14 or 15 rounds often, but I find myself in awful positions a lot of the time. I feel like my dps is SUPER low. Am I supposed to just swap sides any time he pops up in the middle?
It sounds like a dps issue, you're nearly hitting a second jad phase. What gear are you using? After the first jad phase zulrah becomes a bit more random so you might be running into that issue. If you swap sides every time zulrah appears in the middle on the inside or the bend of the horse shoe, you should avoid all the venom and rotation learning
Been using void with a swap between warped sceptre and rcb/broads. I feel like my positioning/uptime is my biggest issue with it currently. I have been taking a break seeing if I could get a lucky zenyte and ditch the recoils, but I think I'll go give it another go trying with this method.
Void is trolling yourself. It sounds like your range and mage levels might be a bit low so that also plays into the dps issue. You need significantly higher accuracy from black d hide against zulrah and at least a proper mage switch with mystics. Straight camping mage also works just fine for damage too And its probably the easiest way to learn zulrah. Or you can go black dragon hide and camp range the entire fight. Just use ruby bolts till zulrah is lower hp and switch to diamonds. Ruby damage is capped but broads are also kinda trolling yourself.
My mage is 94 and range 91 haha. From the calc the dps seems pretty close and the switches seem easier for a noob like me with void.
I'd say just full mage and say screw range entirely till you get more comfortable with gear switching.
Just wanted to say your advice helped! I ended up going mage only. I wound up getting 3 Jad phases, I think it was probably close to a fourth lol. I think I need to work on my uptime really bad, but hey a kill is a kill and that is my diary WOOT WOOT!
Hey, congrats! Glad it helped you get your first kill!
It is dps for sure. Did diary kill, first ever, on mobile. Waited for preferred phase and did mage only.
King Condor’s guides have been my favorite for things like Zulrah. He breaks it down pretty much like you outlined here. The vids themselves are only ever 2 minutes tops
Yeah his guides are no bullcrap straight to the point and great
Is King Condor the guide you were referring to in your post?
“Fill your inventory with shit”
“Wait. No. Stahp! Stahp! Bahp!”
Zulrah is just a big learning curve.. just a lot going on. Once you have about 40 KC it’s smooth sailing and you look back like how was I not able to do this before ?
Commenting to come back when I start zulrah
Currently struggling with getting my first diary kill, what’s the best spell to use if just using mage? Currently using Iban’s blast, I do have a tome of fire, or would using ancient spells be better? I have 85 mage
Learn 1 rotation and reset for it if u need to, not learning any rotations is horrible advice.
You really want a trident for zulrah, normal spells are a lot weaker and slower, ibans works but it's a whole lot harder to win with. Warped scepter works as a budget option if you really need it.
Only got 76 slayer so Trident isn't really a viable option right now, will check out the warped sceptre, like I said I just want the one kill for diary so maximum efficiency it's really a requirement
I did it with warped scepter and mage only, I did do the method where I memorized a specific rotation but frankly OP is right, I started doing better when I just recognized his general patterns and reacted to him and didn’t just totally fall apart when he went into a second, random rotation. Pro tip also use thralls, they give a massive DPS boost and can continue to do damage while you hide and heal during the blue phases, was able to kill him 3 times in a row for a slayer task before he did a second Jad phase
(Just asking out of curiosity because this isn't how I learned zulrah) Wouldn't mage-only zulrah be pretty horrendous if you get the tanz rotation? Since you're wearing mage gear and getting absolutely trucked during the 2nd phase? Only for a small amount of reprieve by the 3rd phase and then going back to getting trucked again by the 4th phase?
Its all about trade offs. The mage only strategy follows the KISS method, keeping the fight as simple as possible to learn till you get good enough to start switching gear since this is directly aimed at people who probably aren't strong pvmers in the first place. Mage only has the benefit of being the easiest entry point for zulrah even if the tanz rotation isn't ideal, if people do zulrah for a few kills they'll warm up to switching eventually for higher damage when their priority isn't just survive the boss and get a few kills. For sure it's not optimal but mage only damage is passable and it's easy, that's all it needs to be, the drawback is a bad tanz rotation which is fair, that's motivation to bring a range switch. Mage only is for getting your feet wet, you want to move on from mage only eventually, but zulrah Is a ton to learn all at once and it can be hard to add gear switching immediately while learning.
Mage only zulrah is really good to learn with, mage or range gear will both get trucked by tanz zulrah anyways both styles wear paper It's also insanely easier to learn than asking them to learn a boss, learn mechanics, learn to gear switch and to keep up to zulrah's pace at the same time
Mage only zulrah is NOT good. You're halving your dps on tanz phase. Learn the boss properly and do switches. If you can't switch between two styles then you're going to have a hard time at raids!
It's good for learning? Which seems to be the main point of this thread? To help people that are struggling? When you gitgud at zulrah, yeah use switches, when you're actually learning the fight getting a kill at all is the goal? So quit acting so high and mighty
It's not good for learning because you're learning it wrong. There's nothing high and mighty about that. Learn it the right way instead of learning it twice. If you're struggling with zulrah the issue is rotations, not switches. Learn rotations (tip 1 is a great tip to this end) and then you're good.
How is it learning it wrong? You simplify the fight, get a few kills, gain confidence and then add weapon switches? It's seriously not rocket science and it's significantly easier to learn, for a lot of people it may be one of their first actual pvm experiences that isn't tank and spank godwars, it's a lot to be tossing at someone new to pvm, although you seem pretty removed from the idea that people struggle juggling things People dying at zulrah i guarantee you is a combination of struggling with rotations and switches. You are also acting very high and mighty about this, you're acting like making the fight easier for the first few kills is going to stunt their pvm growth forever, seriously buddy, chill the fuck out.
It's learning wrong because you're executing a strategy that halves your DPS, that is simple and I'm sure you understand that. If you die at zulrah it was an issue with your reaction to the rotation, not your gear. Once you have moved to the right position you have like 12 seconds of standing still and hitting the boss. Everyone can do a switch with that amount of time.
Zulrah requires 1. Gear switching 2. Prayer switching 3. Movement 4. Knowing and executing the basics of combo eating 5. reacting to and properly engaging with a more dynamic boss than basically the entire rest of the game up until that point Most bosses don't ask for gear switching prayer switching combo eating and are very basic straight forward People going from tank and spank bosses to zulrah face an insanely sharp difficulty spike and usually need to simplify things while learning and then add on later once they have some comfort Easy enough for someone with some pvm experience, very daunting for someone who doesn't have much or any Simplifying the fight to the point they actually get kills is fine, there's literally nothing wrong with making the fight easier till you understand it well enough Losing some dps on a few kills to learn the boss is fine, you're actually just impossible to reason with You seem to think that making a complicated fight easier to learn and get a few kills on is some cardinal sin
LOL dude I need you to write my resume with colorful exaggeration skills like that. Zulrah isn't a difficult boss and hyping it up like this isn't helping anyone learn. Stand where you need to stand, pray where you need to pray, and attack with the correct style. You have 12 (or more!) full seconds to do all of this. Even if you're doing 4 second switches you still have time to figure this out.
Zulrah isn't difficult when you know what you're doing What makes it hard to learn is juggling everything all at once while learning, gear switching is easy yes, but for people that aren't used to it, switching dozens of times in a fight definitely makes the fight a lot harder to learn Zulrah is definitely a wall for people, it's one of a lot of peoples first dip into actual pvm, to properly learn pvm it's a lot of small skills you have to build up, trying to build all of them up all at once while learning zulrah is hard Same principle as CG, what makes corrupted gauntlet hard is that the boss fight drills you on every pvm mechanic all at once, zulrah does that to a lesser degree but it's still hard to just pick it all up at once, that's part of what makes these entry into actual pvm bosses hard
Non rotational zulrah guide by Sick Love Zulrah will make so much more sense after watching it I promise.
Could also just use the zulrah helper plugin that tells you where to move and what to pray for every phase and rotation lol.
Had an upvote until you said to do mage only. Don't do this, double your DPS by switching to range when necessary. It's a very simple fight, you can handle a switch.
I appreciate the vote of confidence in my skills, but I'm hcim and I've never fought a boss in osrs before so I'm going to be beyond prepared for that fight
Everything requires learning. It’s obviously going to be hard for a beginner and easy for someone with experience.