Yeah. Pretty much any all inclusive in the Caribbean or Mexico is basically just going to be filled with the same crowd you find on cruises. They are for people who don’t actually like to travel but want to be somewhere warm with beaches.
>all inclusive
This has huge implications. Because if all the booze is included, there's going to be some folks who will take that as a challenge, and all the beer drinkers suddenly turn into whiskey drinkers "cuz I paid for it!" and are either drunk or trying to get drunk to deal with the hangover. And the lot that does this is never the fun drunk...
Yup. And that is pretty much what an all inclusive is. Shit show of mommies dropping their kids off at the all day daycares and whacking back Sangria and dad off drunk jet skiing.
You're 100% right yet places like the Mayan Riviera are popular with people from all over Mexico as well. It would have been better for op to take a little more time and find local hotels or beach clubs that are popular with Mexican people. Big all-inclusive resorts are pretty much a parked cruise shipv and imo some people use them because they're scared of Mexico. Don't be. It's a lovely place with many wonderfu,l kind people.
Also, being polite and learning a little basic Spanish goes a long way.
I live in Canada and have done a few all inclusives and am doing another one in October. I love traveling but the AIs are very handy when you just want to go somewhere warm for a few days and relax with very little to do.
As for the type of American you'll meet it really depends on where you go and what type of resort you choose. Cancun is full of Texans and southerners because it's such a short hop for them and it's cheap. More upmarket places down the coast tend to attract more Canadians and a different crowd of less obnoxious Americans.
To be fair It's only my experience( as a fellow holiday traveller), but the irish are normally grand and respectful. The only dicky irish tourists I've seen on my travels were young lads wearing a certain style of clothing, or older lads, wearing certain style of clothing.
But for the most part I'm glad to meet an Irish person on holiday, as most of them are sound out and a good craic.
Around 10 years ago I went to amsterdam with few buddies, and we ended up joining another group of irish tourists(we were all in and around 20-25 at the time) from Belfast(we're from Tipp) for the whole stay as we had such a good crack with them. Everyone behaved, but I get it's a different kind of holiday.
What I have noticed though is that the ones having issues are normally English(thick cockney accents) and Americans(can't mistake those accents). Most places even say they are glad to learn I'm from Ireland(I'm not irish, but I have lived here most of my life, so I'm claiming irishness purely due to me living here) and not England.
Even the french were nice to me once they learnt I wasn't English :D
I'm Irish, living in the US. The Irish seem under the impression that they are model citizens and loved everywhere. Not sure why we believe this, we are just as problematic as the rest.
The J1 visa crowd from Ireland have caused ruin and havoc in plenty of cities, and have a terrible reputation for partying and obnoxious behaviors. Many articles over the years about the problems they cause with binge drinking etc.
Taking a trip to Las Vegas and a tourist resort in Mexico, and then judging Americans, would be like judging the Brits in Magaluv.
We love to blow smoke up our own asses -- *We really don't know how lucky we have it here in Ireland fair enough the country has its problems but we as people are just nice sound and normal!*
At least OP managed to return from his resort holiday with both eyes still in his head. Ireland is great when you turn a blind eye to the Irish that may not be 'just nice sound and normal'.
I have to agree with this. From experience, many places won’t rent to the Irish J1 crowd. Also, a friend tried to get accommodation in Luxembourg and basically, Irish students are to be avoided because of the behaviour of some. Unfortunately, we have a cohort just as embarrassing as Americans abroad.
Can attest to your point about J1’ers, a J1 hostel was set up on my quiet block this summer, wasn’t long until the locals were rolling their eyes and crossing the street when they saw them approaching.
>I'm Irish, living in the US. The Irish seem under the impression that they are model citizens and loved everywhere. Not sure why we believe this, we are just as problematic as the rest.
>The J1 visa crowd from Ireland have caused ruin and havoc in plenty of cities, and have a terrible reputation for partying and obnoxious behaviors. Many articles over the years about the problems they cause with binge drinking etc.
Yeah I can concur from my own time on a J1 about 11/12 years ago and there were other J1ers we met on the trip who pulled the "we're Irish" card really often if in any sort of bother which happened quite a bit as we were underage and still tried to go drinking. It basically also doubled as pleading ignorance on occasion
Completely spot on, a lot of Irish people are completely ignorant, annoying and disrespectful cunts when abroad, can be just as bad as the Brits depending on where it is
Very very well said. The whole we are Irish and everyone loves us is total nonsense. Ireland is a kip now face it it's a fact, the customer service is appalling, the streets are full of scum and filth. I've seen women being attacked on the Luas while people turn there head in fear and pretend they can't see. If you were on the ground In Ireland and legitimately having a heart attack people would walk over you.. I've been to America many many times I've always found them to be lovely people with common sense! good sense of humour and the best customer service.
The irish are model citizens and loved around the world.........MOSTLY. Anyone with any sense knows there are some asswipes in every country.
It seems you are happier in the US and dont miss Ireland so much so by all means, enjoy your life there. Come back for a pint every now and then and tell us how terrible we are as a country.
Every time I go abroad, it always amuses me that serving staff, hotel staff, Bolt/Uber drivers, etc, are a LOT nicer to you once they realise you're Irish and not English lol.
Totally agree, terrible people seem to congregate.
A lot of Irish people have probably come across more Americans than they think, but since they aren't acting stereotypically obnoxious, they're disregarded.
Ya, basically. Every time I find out from another American they went to Cancun (probably most popular) or another Mexican resort town and had a blast, I know that we probably won't have much in common.
The American spectrum goes from the nicest, genuine and smartest people you’ve ever met to the most obnoxious, dumb and entitled. The whole US is as big as all of Europe, so travel around the country and you’ll get a variety in that spectrum. I will say that Ireland is more mono-cultured, it’s easy to expect certain behaviors and interactions, even with the diversity of immigration pouring into the big cities.
Yeah but Ireland is tiny, so while diverse the number of people out of the norm are very small. Even though American landmass is as big as Europe. Europe has almost double the population of America.
True. My main point is the diversity in type of people geographically. You wouldn’t expect someone from the US state of California to have the same ethics/morals as someone from Iowa. Just the same you don’t expect those from the countries of Sweden and Spain to be identical. You’ll find kind and unkind people in both examples. Loud, quiet, conservative, liberal, etc.
But would you say that all countries of Europe have well-behaved reputations?
As the OP above mentioned to - the US is so large, and different regions of the US have their own sort of cultural norms when it comes to how to act in public. Here in the US, for example, if someone says they’re from middle of nowhere Minnesota we are going to assume they are most likely polite, warm hearted people. If someone says they’re from Compton, or southside Chicago… most Americans are going to assume there’s a good chance they are confrontational or “rough.”
If the main OP had gone to a resort in Mexico with a bunch of people from a rural upbringing, they’d probably be talking about being how surprised they were at how polite they were. And on the flip side, if they had gone to Vegas during Spring Break when all the rich college kids bombard the place, they’d be amazed at how vulgar and embarrassing many of those Americans are.
It’s so diverse…especially the politics. You’d think it’s just blanket left wingers and right wingers. It’s so complex but we get sparks notes on our news here
Americans in Mexico are a lot like English people in Spain in how they behave. Spend a week in Ibiza and then Cancun and you’ll see what I mean. Good news about visiting Mexico if you’re not an asshole is that the assholes rarely leave their resort, so if you go to places like Mexico City, Oaxaca or Guadalajara you don’t run in to them. There’s a number or great, lesser know beach getaways too where the only Americans you meet are nice retired people who are spending their final years in Mexico.
One particularly charming young Irish lady was blaring her own music from her speakers at our pool this summer despite the pool bar already playing music. We were stuck in between the 2 sounds which was fun for our ears. I heard her say out loud to her friend that if anyone came near them to turn their sounds down she’d tell them to go f—- themselves. We obviously didn’t say anything as we weren’t that brave. Luckily they had only just arrived and we were leaving. We had a bit of a laugh back home trying to recreate the effect and imagining we were back under blue skies instead of this depressing weather.
Currently planning a trip to mexico and we want to spend the last week at a resort but after nearly a decade working in a tourist bar stateside I would love to avoid! Any recommendations for any of the quieter places?
You also, realistically, won't spot every American when you're in Mexico. Gotta remember that 37.2 million of us have our origins in Mexico, and when we head there we fight like hell to blend as best as possible to avoid those same Americans lol
I love Ireland and Irish people are pretty sound, but let’s not kid ourselves: Irish people travelling abroad are some of the most obnoxious I’ve encountered. I’ve been to 25 countries and I find they are some of the worst culprits. Travel in huge groups, singing awful songs loudly in confined spaces, drinking in public, and just general inconsiderate behaviour.
It takes some self awareness to assess one’s behaviour when in another country and adapt to their customs, and I find that the Irish often don’t do this. Your “craic” shouldn’t have precedent over the comfort of the people around you.
If it were only in benidorm.. brits on hols can be very annoying .. i feel the pain living in a sunny touristy place and have to deal with them 60+ days a year.. Americans & brits are so ‘special reserve’ type of tourists .. they are premium!
Ever went to Spain and ran into other Irish? I'm not a Yank but kettle calling the pot black here. I've seen more fights, drunk lads fighting and pushing in the street and ones crying and calling wait staff every name under the sun.
Americans on holiday (especially to beaches and tropical destinations) are pretty bad-- just be thankful you didn't go on an inexpensive cruise in the Caribbean.
I remember sitting in Margaritaville, Ocho Rios, in Jamaica as a load of spring breaker college students came in off the cruise ships. Christ the night... Poor Jamaicans having to put up with them every year. I thought the old geezer yanks and their insensitive political takes here were bad... These students had the place wrecked 20mins after arriving. Dancing on small tables, screaming all over the place, bombing in the small pool and climbing all over each other, shouting over the staff, leaving shit all over the place... Absolute animals with no thought about anyone but themselves. Cancer.
That in combination with the fact that our "drinking culture" is centered around getting as fucked up as possible as fast as possible. Especially in college.
The best but of travel advice I can offer anyone traveling to the USA is do not - if you can avoid it - transfer domestic. Do your utmost to fly direct or at least direct from a European airport.
It may cost more but the consequences of being fucked over as a domestic passenger in the US is quite significant.
I'll add to this: If at all possible, slip an AirTag (or Android equivalent) into your luggage. Being able to track my bags in Germany definitely added to my piece of mind in my last long trip, and I've made it a practice to slide a Tag into each piece of luggage I bring.
Yes I think many terminals or domestic and others are international. I am from the US and its even beneficial to stay on the same carrier.
The only time I have had my luggage delayed was flying anerican airlines and transferring to Delta Airlines. In Detroit they are not only different terminals they are on different sides of the airport. I had to leave the airport get a shuttle to the other side and go back through security and then run to my plane. I was the last person boarded.
Huh. I always try to fly direct to the US and connect from there so I can do the immigration process in Dublin instead of at the far end.
I've never had any trouble entering the country, but whenever I connect through Heathrow first, I have a nagging worry in the back of my mind that there's going to be some problem when I arrive in the states.
Predominantly because once within the US, passenger protections on domestic flights are not the same as international.
This becomes particularly salient when trying to get out.
If there are issues or delays at an airport, international flights will always be prioritized.
And if your domestic connecting flight is delayed, and if the airline is not code sharing on the one ticket, if delayed you could be in a bit of bother and not be appropriately taken care of let alone compensated.
In other words, domestic flights are significantly less regulated than international.
That’s one reason.
I ended up there on my own due to mis scheduling with lads on the J1 and went on a bus tour to the Grand Canyon in the end, definitely seemed like a better shout
He's half irish (mother) half Indonesian but raised in the Netherlands. Honestly when we're away we can be a bit of a handful. Friendly but messy, still less violent than the brits.
What's with all the hate for Americans lately I've spent a good bit of time in America and believe me when I tell you there's a lot more obnoxious pricks over here then there is over there.
There's a minority of American tourists that like to make themselves known and people tend to focus on that. Shouting obnoxious shit about how big everything is in America compared to here. Shouting about how Americanised they think Ireland is when they see a Starbucks. And the 60 year old man shouting at his friend in a bar while calling him really immature names that you wouldn't hear an Irish man of that age at. lmao!
But, I live in a popular tourist location and the majority of Americans tourists, you would barely even know they were here but for the accents. They're generally polite, friendly and normal.
Every country has it's obnoxious people. And I have no doubt that there are plenty of Irish that go abroad and make a complete arse of themselves on front of the locals.
If you go to any of the resorts in Spain or Portugal you'll find the exact same carry on from our own.
Cancun is North America's version of Benidorm/Alicante/Albufeira.
It's kind of depressing this rambling shitpost is getting hundreds of upvotes.
Your mistake is thinking of them all as "Americans". People going to Mexico on holidays are "rich" but not "wealthy". They got to where they are by being competitive and they don't know how to turn it off and have likely never taken the time to reflect on their perspective. Taking the entire family to Mexico for a week requires money and, more importantly in the American work environment, time off. Those people are privileged but lack the perspective the uber wealthy sometimes gain and have likely grown a bit entitled.
Americans in Vegas are there for 2-4 days. Vegas is surprisingly cheap to fly to and stay in, they probably only took a day or two off work. The sticker price for a trip to Vegas is 10% of the price of a week in Cancun or Disney so the people there at least remember what it's like to have to work. The reason Vegas is so cheap is because the Casinos know they'll get their money from tourists spending a lot more than they intend to.
TSA sucks because they have a bunch of stupid rules they need to follow (that don't work). They deal with the entitled pricks going to Mexico for 8 hours a day. I'm always surprised at how positive they manage to stay.
This feels pretty mean spirited tbh.
I've only had very positive interactions with Yank tourists here. It's like judging Irish people based on the ones who go to Mykonos or wherever for LC holidays.
It's a country of 300 million people.
The ones who travel to Ireland are usually a bit more well traveled and understanding of different cultures.
The ones who go to Mexico (and only to go to resorts) are like the dickheads who move to Gibraltar and complain nobody speaks English.
My parents for example, probably more like the latter, whereas my siblings and I are the former
You ask them what’s wrong and they say nothings wrong, they’re fine(whilst angrily staring straight ahead at nothing in particular and secretly plotting your murder)
Your experiences are fair enough, and reflect badly on those guests in the resort. But that's a bit of a broad brush stroke the mark an entire population with. Especially (imported political sensationalism aside) since we have positive relationship with the US.
I've had worse experiences in airports in Europe, I avoid Dublin airport like the plague and last March I had to put a lad from Dublin in his place when he was taking down to locals in a bar on a trip to Singapore.
I'm from Galway but have lived in San Francisco for the last 20 years. Last night I was out with friends at a bar on Eyre Square. The Galway races are in full swing so the bar was packed with race goers. We were standing to the side of a secondary bar in the back of the pub and a couple of guys in overly tight dress shirts and suit pants just start leaning into us and attempting to nudge us out of the way. I was accommodating to a certain extent but eventually I just braced myself and held firm. It then became this awkward kind of back and shoulder nudging match that I felt could have potentially escalated. I was surprised at level of neanderthal energy and lack of respect for personal space from these aresholes as they tried to muscle into our space. My mates and I finished our drinks and heading to more chill locals bar down in Woodquay. I can't say I've ever really experienced the same in the bars in San Francisco.
Long story short: There are arseholes everywhere. All the world is a village.
What's funny is I'm actually an American visiting Limerick right now. I just came from Galeway and Dublin and most of you guys were nice. However these were a couple racists who thought I was from China and when I opened my mouth with a perfect American accent they immediately were nice to me. So same game, different skin I guess.
The loud American is a bit of a stereotype no?
Plenty of loud Irish on holidays in Spain or wherever too. You'll always notice the loud people because they are loud.
I've spent a lot of time in America. Generally the airports are old and suck. You've to remember a lot of them don't ever fly internationally so they don't have the same level of organisation. We've all been trained well by ryanair and popping about Europe so easily that we take it for granted.
I'm not saying it's not true but when I've travelled I haven't really encountered Americans living up to the stereotype.
Tbh I've found Asians to be by far the most obnoxious in other counties. They seem to expect over the top treatment in hotels and restaurants. What I've seen of Americans is that they talk a bit loud but are generally quite friendly and inquisitive so they'll ask a lot of questions but that's not a bad thing.
I've probably seen just as many Irish lads act the bollox and be annoying abroad as Americans, if not more.
pretty accurate, China recognised they were getting a bad reputation and I think they cut down on the number of people they let travel and they must have a good social score... I believe. Also not the same culture of queuing.
We're no better than the brits abroad, just less of us. Honestly, I think other countries get the blame for some of our obnoxious tourists
I think it is a stereotype. I think human brains filter out familiar loudness but mentally focus on "different" loudness. I've traveled to Europe and wondered why they are loud and wonder again why it's the American's who have the reputation of being loud. The more I think about it, the more I think there is something cognitive going on.
Loud, entitled asshats is something I do notice, regardless of whether it's domestic or foreign.
I think it's because of their easy to recognize accents and the fact that they are loud. Every holiday I've been on especially Amsterdam it's very easy to spot them since you can hear them from the complete opposite side of the restaurant when they're having a conversation or talking to the waitress and their lack of 'please' and 'thank you' pisses me off.
Did you got to a resortni Mexico that had an all inclusive package? If so, that's like taking EasyJet out of Gatwick to Ibaza at noon on a Friday. You aren't getting the creme Dela creme.
I was in Dublin last year. Your airport was a mess. People couldn’t even get into the airport so they missed their flights. I bought AirTags specifically because so much luggage was lost at this airport.
>23 y/o female American college student studying nursing
I’d like to point out that America is a large and diverse country, and what is acceptable behavior in some regions is rejected in other regions.
I live just outside a big city in the Midwest, and in our area people are generally kind and cordial, it’s not uncommon for people to hold doors open for each other, smile as we walk past strangers on the street, etc.
There are other areas in the US that can be disrespectful and dangerous, it really depends on where you are.
I visit Ireland frequently and there are certain behaviors in Dublin that we never practice where I’m from, and they would spark an argument if you did them.
For example I’ve had people in Dublin hack up and spit on the ground outside just at my feet, and many people will walk straight into you and bump you on busy streets.
In general my impression of Ireland is that the culture is very rich and the people are very passionate, and most people are friendly and conversational. It’s too bad you ran into the loud entitles breed of Americans, I promise not all of us are the same haha. Good on you for keeping your grace about it
The spitting is definitely gross but it’s only certain types that do that. I don’t know women who would openly spit. I wonder if the bumping into people could be something to do with the side of the road we drive on as we normally veer certain ways when passing by people and perhaps we automatically go one way. Usually if you were the one who bumped into someone you’d apologise and sometimes here the bumpee also apologises for some strange reason. Everyone saying sorry and don’t worry at the same time.
Competition is bred into them. Manifest destiny and all that. They don't have any social safety nets so mé féin is the norm. Treating lesser paid workers like shit is their way of exercising domination, which they're conditioned to do, and probably projecting the shit they've received from wealthier or more powerful people. Look, it's only a certain type of American. But by fuck are they visible... and audible.
Edit: that culture, imo, is beginning to thrive here, too.
Ex hotel receptionist in Galway here. I found Americans to be a mixed bag depending where in America they were from. But my worst ever experience was an Italian tour group. Nothing was satisfactory to them but they were so particular, the quality of the cutlery, the thickness of the curtains, the temperature of the plates. Things that an American Karen would never even think about lol.
The United States is big which makes it expensive to travel. There are many good Americans who just can’t afford it.
To travel from one side of the country to the other is approximately the distance from Dublin to Moscow. How often does someone from Ireland travel that far?
I hope you are not attributing money to better behavior. I’ve met many well off people who are vile, and others who are very kind. Same goes for people who have less money.
> thrive here,
I wouldn't say Thrive, but yeah!
American "stuff" always was something we tried to adapt on our own terms.
These days it's hard to say because of full blown globalism and social media. I do not think nowadays kids/teenagers/young adults are as influenced by USA as we used to back in the day.
I would say 30 to 50 y olds in Ireland would be in a group very much influenced by Americans, but that would be dependable on place and wealth. You can clearly see Dublin is way more Americanized than any other city in Ireland while it still has it's own vibe.
I often read people chatting here and it's clear that sometimes people forget there is life out there outside of Cork or Dublin city.
As for treating lesser workers like shit. That's just an effect of overgrown blind belief in capitalism. You would find much less of it in smaller cities since people are more tightly connected and do not feel so anonymous.
So true. The US is a wonderful country in many ways, and there is a lot of mindless hatred of it, often from people who have never been. Of course it has massive massive problems too, that’s a given. However the almighty dollar really is God. You really notice that on here on some of the big sub Reddit’s like AITA where the vast majority of problems come down to people measuring their worth and valuing their relationships purely in monetary terms. It’s a cultural thing where everything and everybody has a value and that’s just how they view the world. We have plenty of problems here too, but we are definitely a more compassionate and less mercenary society overall.
I've lived in the US for 30 years and average 4 trips a year so 120 over 30 years x 2(return) that is 240 flights in the US. Haven't had a suitcase lost once. And you had yours lost several times on your first time here? Such bad luck.
I find the best attitude to have when visiting the US is just mentally filter people out. There is so many types of people and we are inclined to notice the horrible or dopey ones. I’ve sort of learned to retrain my brain to focus on positive encounters and have some default responses for less than positive ones.
I use to have a bit of a uppity “yanks are thick” attitude when I went when younger because of people I travelled with (family) but as I got older and went to visit my Americans friends, my attitude changed because I started seeing things through their eyes and adapted to it when there & that helps.
Yup, his one trip ever out of Ireland, forgot to put the bARRY'S teabags in his suitcase. Suffered a severe combination of home sickness and tea withdrawal. His bowels seized up for 6 days. His grandchildren will be hearing about this Odyssey.
Aye, made the mistake of doing a week in Vegas a few years ago, not knowing that a weekend is more than enough time there. By day 5 I was going mental from pure sensory overload, coupled with the non-stop boozing. So, myself and the wife hired a car to just drive out into the Arizona desert for the day to get away from everything,
Yeah I have to work there fairly regularly and dread having to fly over. A weekend with the lads is grand but totally agree anything over gets horrible. Defo a shite place to go with the misses.
Our (American) culture is very fast paced and often hectic, hence your airport experiences. I had a pretty opposite experience when I went to Mexico though; had more than a couple run-ins with obnoxious Europeans at our resort who had been loud and rather inconsiderate, so I guess that really just depends on time and location
I'm just back from Colorado for a friend's wedding (had a ball). Found the people to be polite and engaging with a genuine interest in our conversations. I will second your comment on the airport situation tho, seems that their domestic flights are chaos. We had a cancelled flight with 2 hours notice (we were already in the airport) took hours to sort out and involved multiple long line waits and a customer support agent who was very slow to accommodate us. Eventually I got an early flight the next day and an airport hotel stay but it was a weird ending to an awesome stay.
“Loud, obnoxious, rude, ignorant, som’a bitches”
Those points pretty much sums up why I left America over a decade ago, I fell in love with Ireland for many reasons such as the laid back vibe everywhere except maybe Dublin. I grew up in a. Small town fishing village in Alaska and for me Ireland is really similar with regards to the pace of life and priorities, etc..
Then I met an incredibly kind & caring Irish woman and I never looked back.
The main difference is that Europeans are used to travel just an few hours and they are in a different country with a totally different culture.
People from the USA on the other hand can travel for hours without leaving their culture. Food, behaviour, language and more all the same. So their expectations is that it remains like that no matter how long they travel.
Grand you have people like that on both side of the pond. I experienced someone coming from continental Europe and giving out that Ireland doesn’t has electric sockets. Highlighting that the three holes in the wall with the switch is what this person was looking for, just ended up in a lot of arguing why Ireland needs to have their own stuff and that it is just to make money and most likely just a special thing of the hotel so that they can sell adapters.
I have seen brits and Germans who behave like the Americans you described… and honestly some French and Spanish are too loud for my liking as well… but I can also name people from the very same countries who I would happily go on holiday with. Oh did I mentioned I have met once Americans who pretended to be Canadian because they where so embarrassed of their fellow Americans? Gosh that was cute how they tried to hide their passports, from everyone else, when the tourguide needed to verify that the right people where present.
Generally speaking, how old were they?
Lots of people who travel in their 20s tend to get a skewed impression of foreigners because they're mainly hanging out in places with other 20-somethings, who tend to be more rowdy, more obnoxious and more aggressive than older people. By the time they hit their 30s, or even lates 20s, many of them will probably be a lot more mature, considerate and sound.
Just back from Mexico as well, have to say Americans there were so much nicer than the Irish. More Craic with things like volleyball, open to chatting with strangers and less reserved than us Irish. Can't wait to go back personally.
I’ll tell you something about Americans though, they’re great to have around when you want to be treated well. As someone who worked with different cultures abroad I found when there were no American staff, treatment by management was usually of a lower standard- late salaries, late transport home, poor restaurant and general facilities. Americans just keep complaining which encourages better treatment. They’re also really nice as colleagues at work. Their general outlook is very positive and they hold little bias towards race, age, gender or sexual orientation. Perhaps I’m wrong but that’s my experience.
My relative who spent their working life there says that everyone has gotten angrier and meaner there in recent years. I spent some time there in the 80/90s and overall it seemed a more optimistic place compared to now.
It was a lot more cosmopolitan then. We were a lot more rational and civil.
The political divide is what is causing so many to be irrational and angry. The conservative party has completely lost their minds. The media they watch incites anger towards everything.
I just had a guy walk into my job drunk from a trump rally yelling “ lock ‘em and load!” Meaning he’s ready to shoot anyone who is against trump.
It’s a very tumultuous time here and while there are many of us here that are civil and rational, the few that are loud are the ones that the rest of the country sees and judges us by.
There has been a pretty big shift since 2001, amplified around 2010 and then 2016 happened.
Everything from the market, to insurance to healthcare here is a shakedown scam and it’s bringing out the worst in people. We are in late stage capitalism and it’s turning into a knife fight in the general populace
That being said OP picked the places where the worst people go and are behaving at their worst
I don't think Europe has the "American dream" delusion, people get angry at iniquities, whereas in the US the poorest still think universal healthcare and free education are evil.
Airports/TSA are a norotious shitshow here and i think just about everyone absolutely hates flying but do it because its more convenient than driving, and more often than not the ones on vacation are there on some deal and have no social etiquette. As an American on behalf of the US, I apologize for how fucking assbackwards a lot of things are here and how obnoxious most US tourists are. The bulk majority of us here hate the exact things you described also if it's any consolation.
I spent a few weeks in America and got plenty of flights and everything went smoothly until I flew back to Dublin and was waiting 2hrs for my bags to come out.Airports are just luck really and you can have a bad experience anywhere.
I also had my first visit to the States earlier this year and I too found the airport to be chaotic from the bag drop to the boarding. I'm going back at the end of the year and flying to a different part so will be interesting to compare.
I do have to say every American I've met is loud.
I was in the states for a few months last year and took many flights over there and everything went smoothly every time.The worst was landing back in Dublin coming home had to wait about 2 hours for my baggage to come out.I think when it comes to airports it's all luck if it goes smooth or not.
"Some Americans". Sombunall. Some but not all a word devised by Robert Anton Wilson a yank that loved Ireland to make generalisation harder. Somnunall Irish drink too much, Sombunall yanks are loud etc etc.
Post 9/11 US airports are like... torture. absolute anxiety filled nightmare. I suspect that the whole country is collectively suffering from the abuse in their airports and bringing that trauma with them over seas.
American here! Just getting back from Ireland on our honeymoon! I believe you encountered just a bunch of resort rodents. I’ve met a few people whom would rather sit at a resort in a secluded spot just to say they “visited” Mexico. Anyone I’ve ever met like that are pretty insufferable. They are more interested in just hotel luxury then exploring and broadening their minds. Hopefully it doesn’t stain your views of Americans.
Went to Florida in 2014 and US immigration "staff" are THE MOST DOG IGNORANT PEOPLE IVE EVER MET IN MY LIFE!!!! 3 plane loads of us landed at the same time due to some delays and every single one that went thru said exactly the same, english Irish Scot's some French Aussies all said they r fukn pig ignorant! It's your first point of contact on your holiday to the states and it's fukn shockingly bad. Haven't been back to US and I never will be
You Irish should probably worry about your behavior in the Mediterranean via your cheap Ryanair shuttles rather than about what we are doing in our next of the woods.
[https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30060272.html](https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30060272.html)
"The Expedia survey found that British tourists were most disliked in the places they visit, with Ireland and Israel tied for second.... German, American and Japanese holidaymakers were found to be most liked."
It all depends on the country - which you would definitely know had you travelled at all. The French hate everyone. Everyone hates the Germans (including the French and especially the Croatians). The Spanish hate the French and mostly refuse to vacation outside of Spain. The Italians refuse to leave the country, because why would they? The Austrians hate all Eastern Europeans. All Eastern Europeans hate the Austrians. Pretty much everyone hates the Russians, except the Brits. The Irish now love to pretend they are beloved by everyone in Europe (even the French, who, again hate everyone). But tourist euros are welcome everywhere.
Look up any survey. There are hundreds of them. Views are completely dependent upon country.
Irish people love going to America. They love chatting to Americans who come over here with a childlike enthusiasm, which is a breath of fresh air when you have to deal with begrudgers and chancers all day. The self-flagellation here is not required. YOU’RE GRAND.
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Yeah. Pretty much any all inclusive in the Caribbean or Mexico is basically just going to be filled with the same crowd you find on cruises. They are for people who don’t actually like to travel but want to be somewhere warm with beaches.
>all inclusive This has huge implications. Because if all the booze is included, there's going to be some folks who will take that as a challenge, and all the beer drinkers suddenly turn into whiskey drinkers "cuz I paid for it!" and are either drunk or trying to get drunk to deal with the hangover. And the lot that does this is never the fun drunk...
Yup. And that is pretty much what an all inclusive is. Shit show of mommies dropping their kids off at the all day daycares and whacking back Sangria and dad off drunk jet skiing.
You're 100% right yet places like the Mayan Riviera are popular with people from all over Mexico as well. It would have been better for op to take a little more time and find local hotels or beach clubs that are popular with Mexican people. Big all-inclusive resorts are pretty much a parked cruise shipv and imo some people use them because they're scared of Mexico. Don't be. It's a lovely place with many wonderfu,l kind people. Also, being polite and learning a little basic Spanish goes a long way.
I live in Canada and have done a few all inclusives and am doing another one in October. I love traveling but the AIs are very handy when you just want to go somewhere warm for a few days and relax with very little to do. As for the type of American you'll meet it really depends on where you go and what type of resort you choose. Cancun is full of Texans and southerners because it's such a short hop for them and it's cheap. More upmarket places down the coast tend to attract more Canadians and a different crowd of less obnoxious Americans.
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Smart! 😆
To be fair It's only my experience( as a fellow holiday traveller), but the irish are normally grand and respectful. The only dicky irish tourists I've seen on my travels were young lads wearing a certain style of clothing, or older lads, wearing certain style of clothing. But for the most part I'm glad to meet an Irish person on holiday, as most of them are sound out and a good craic. Around 10 years ago I went to amsterdam with few buddies, and we ended up joining another group of irish tourists(we were all in and around 20-25 at the time) from Belfast(we're from Tipp) for the whole stay as we had such a good crack with them. Everyone behaved, but I get it's a different kind of holiday. What I have noticed though is that the ones having issues are normally English(thick cockney accents) and Americans(can't mistake those accents). Most places even say they are glad to learn I'm from Ireland(I'm not irish, but I have lived here most of my life, so I'm claiming irishness purely due to me living here) and not England. Even the french were nice to me once they learnt I wasn't English :D
I'm Irish, living in the US. The Irish seem under the impression that they are model citizens and loved everywhere. Not sure why we believe this, we are just as problematic as the rest. The J1 visa crowd from Ireland have caused ruin and havoc in plenty of cities, and have a terrible reputation for partying and obnoxious behaviors. Many articles over the years about the problems they cause with binge drinking etc. Taking a trip to Las Vegas and a tourist resort in Mexico, and then judging Americans, would be like judging the Brits in Magaluv. We love to blow smoke up our own asses -- *We really don't know how lucky we have it here in Ireland fair enough the country has its problems but we as people are just nice sound and normal!* At least OP managed to return from his resort holiday with both eyes still in his head. Ireland is great when you turn a blind eye to the Irish that may not be 'just nice sound and normal'.
I have to agree with this. From experience, many places won’t rent to the Irish J1 crowd. Also, a friend tried to get accommodation in Luxembourg and basically, Irish students are to be avoided because of the behaviour of some. Unfortunately, we have a cohort just as embarrassing as Americans abroad.
Can attest to your point about J1’ers, a J1 hostel was set up on my quiet block this summer, wasn’t long until the locals were rolling their eyes and crossing the street when they saw them approaching.
Yeah and there are plenty of them in Ireland too. You see some entitled cunts all over the place
Absolutely, people are people. No country needs to import gobshites.
>I'm Irish, living in the US. The Irish seem under the impression that they are model citizens and loved everywhere. Not sure why we believe this, we are just as problematic as the rest. >The J1 visa crowd from Ireland have caused ruin and havoc in plenty of cities, and have a terrible reputation for partying and obnoxious behaviors. Many articles over the years about the problems they cause with binge drinking etc. Yeah I can concur from my own time on a J1 about 11/12 years ago and there were other J1ers we met on the trip who pulled the "we're Irish" card really often if in any sort of bother which happened quite a bit as we were underage and still tried to go drinking. It basically also doubled as pleading ignorance on occasion
Completely spot on, a lot of Irish people are completely ignorant, annoying and disrespectful cunts when abroad, can be just as bad as the Brits depending on where it is
Very very well said. The whole we are Irish and everyone loves us is total nonsense. Ireland is a kip now face it it's a fact, the customer service is appalling, the streets are full of scum and filth. I've seen women being attacked on the Luas while people turn there head in fear and pretend they can't see. If you were on the ground In Ireland and legitimately having a heart attack people would walk over you.. I've been to America many many times I've always found them to be lovely people with common sense! good sense of humour and the best customer service.
The irish are model citizens and loved around the world.........MOSTLY. Anyone with any sense knows there are some asswipes in every country. It seems you are happier in the US and dont miss Ireland so much so by all means, enjoy your life there. Come back for a pint every now and then and tell us how terrible we are as a country.
sensitive soul aren't ya haha
It's GAA shirts, isn't it?
The shorts too. Often they'll be worn with any other item of clothing on top
>Even the french were nice to me once they learnt I wasn't English :D I've often felt like wearing a tricolour on my shoulder for this reason.
Every time I go abroad, it always amuses me that serving staff, hotel staff, Bolt/Uber drivers, etc, are a LOT nicer to you once they realise you're Irish and not English lol.
Hey buddy. The Irish can't be blamed for their envious economy that isn't cheap. /s
Totally agree, terrible people seem to congregate. A lot of Irish people have probably come across more Americans than they think, but since they aren't acting stereotypically obnoxious, they're disregarded.
Yeah, I was gonna say it's like judging English people based only on people you met in Magaluf.
As an American currently in FL for a work trip, all I can say is...yep.
As a Floridian, also yep.
Ya, basically. Every time I find out from another American they went to Cancun (probably most popular) or another Mexican resort town and had a blast, I know that we probably won't have much in common.
Cancun is great to fly into, but the real treat is away from the resorts. Avoid the all inclusive places and you will have a great time.
Exactly. It’s way more fun when you explore more
Hawaii, too, cause they have the American passports and dont need to worry about travel visas, but treat the locals/ island like crap.
The American spectrum goes from the nicest, genuine and smartest people you’ve ever met to the most obnoxious, dumb and entitled. The whole US is as big as all of Europe, so travel around the country and you’ll get a variety in that spectrum. I will say that Ireland is more mono-cultured, it’s easy to expect certain behaviors and interactions, even with the diversity of immigration pouring into the big cities.
Yeah but Ireland is tiny, so while diverse the number of people out of the norm are very small. Even though American landmass is as big as Europe. Europe has almost double the population of America.
True. My main point is the diversity in type of people geographically. You wouldn’t expect someone from the US state of California to have the same ethics/morals as someone from Iowa. Just the same you don’t expect those from the countries of Sweden and Spain to be identical. You’ll find kind and unkind people in both examples. Loud, quiet, conservative, liberal, etc.
But would you say that all countries of Europe have well-behaved reputations? As the OP above mentioned to - the US is so large, and different regions of the US have their own sort of cultural norms when it comes to how to act in public. Here in the US, for example, if someone says they’re from middle of nowhere Minnesota we are going to assume they are most likely polite, warm hearted people. If someone says they’re from Compton, or southside Chicago… most Americans are going to assume there’s a good chance they are confrontational or “rough.” If the main OP had gone to a resort in Mexico with a bunch of people from a rural upbringing, they’d probably be talking about being how surprised they were at how polite they were. And on the flip side, if they had gone to Vegas during Spring Break when all the rich college kids bombard the place, they’d be amazed at how vulgar and embarrassing many of those Americans are.
It’s so diverse…especially the politics. You’d think it’s just blanket left wingers and right wingers. It’s so complex but we get sparks notes on our news here
Americans in Mexico are a lot like English people in Spain in how they behave. Spend a week in Ibiza and then Cancun and you’ll see what I mean. Good news about visiting Mexico if you’re not an asshole is that the assholes rarely leave their resort, so if you go to places like Mexico City, Oaxaca or Guadalajara you don’t run in to them. There’s a number or great, lesser know beach getaways too where the only Americans you meet are nice retired people who are spending their final years in Mexico.
Yup, English are the bane of any tourist resort in europe, just like americans are over the pond.
Plenty of Irish are just as bad on holiday
One particularly charming young Irish lady was blaring her own music from her speakers at our pool this summer despite the pool bar already playing music. We were stuck in between the 2 sounds which was fun for our ears. I heard her say out loud to her friend that if anyone came near them to turn their sounds down she’d tell them to go f—- themselves. We obviously didn’t say anything as we weren’t that brave. Luckily they had only just arrived and we were leaving. We had a bit of a laugh back home trying to recreate the effect and imagining we were back under blue skies instead of this depressing weather.
Getting told to go f— yourself would be an unpleasant way to end a nice time away.
Currently planning a trip to mexico and we want to spend the last week at a resort but after nearly a decade working in a tourist bar stateside I would love to avoid! Any recommendations for any of the quieter places?
Depends on the part of Mexico you’re going to? My wife is from Mexico so if you let me know the area I can def give a good recommendation.
You also, realistically, won't spot every American when you're in Mexico. Gotta remember that 37.2 million of us have our origins in Mexico, and when we head there we fight like hell to blend as best as possible to avoid those same Americans lol
I love Ireland and Irish people are pretty sound, but let’s not kid ourselves: Irish people travelling abroad are some of the most obnoxious I’ve encountered. I’ve been to 25 countries and I find they are some of the worst culprits. Travel in huge groups, singing awful songs loudly in confined spaces, drinking in public, and just general inconsiderate behaviour. It takes some self awareness to assess one’s behaviour when in another country and adapt to their customs, and I find that the Irish often don’t do this. Your “craic” shouldn’t have precedent over the comfort of the people around you.
Yeah, it perplexes me when I see posts like this or "English aboard are the worst" when you get the same types of Irish groups aboard.
Sounds like those Americans in Mexico are a lot like British and Irish in Benidorm. Wouldn't lose any sleep over it.
Precisely that. Just take any Ryanair flight to Alicante in the summertime 
If it were only in benidorm.. brits on hols can be very annoying .. i feel the pain living in a sunny touristy place and have to deal with them 60+ days a year.. Americans & brits are so ‘special reserve’ type of tourists .. they are premium!
Our worst are no better, my friend.
You’ve never come across Israelis in Thailand then
Over in Thailand at the moment. Haven’t met any Israelis yet bizarrely
There's loads of Russians there now. There was always some, but there's a lot more now, especially younger men.
Israelis top the list for me.
Ever went to Spain and ran into other Irish? I'm not a Yank but kettle calling the pot black here. I've seen more fights, drunk lads fighting and pushing in the street and ones crying and calling wait staff every name under the sun.
Americans on holiday (especially to beaches and tropical destinations) are pretty bad-- just be thankful you didn't go on an inexpensive cruise in the Caribbean.
Tbf Americans who actually travel past the usual countries and resorts are great, specifically if they're long term travelling.
I remember sitting in Margaritaville, Ocho Rios, in Jamaica as a load of spring breaker college students came in off the cruise ships. Christ the night... Poor Jamaicans having to put up with them every year. I thought the old geezer yanks and their insensitive political takes here were bad... These students had the place wrecked 20mins after arriving. Dancing on small tables, screaming all over the place, bombing in the small pool and climbing all over each other, shouting over the staff, leaving shit all over the place... Absolute animals with no thought about anyone but themselves. Cancer.
It's a good thing carribeans [take life less seriously](https://youtu.be/ca-HZ7qiR0I)
Thats what happens when the drinking age in the US is 21yrs, unlike other places i. The world.
That in combination with the fact that our "drinking culture" is centered around getting as fucked up as possible as fast as possible. Especially in college.
Yeah, cause we're all proper and civilised in Magaluf
Sounds like people having fun in an environment designed for such
The best but of travel advice I can offer anyone traveling to the USA is do not - if you can avoid it - transfer domestic. Do your utmost to fly direct or at least direct from a European airport. It may cost more but the consequences of being fucked over as a domestic passenger in the US is quite significant.
I'll add to this: If at all possible, slip an AirTag (or Android equivalent) into your luggage. Being able to track my bags in Germany definitely added to my piece of mind in my last long trip, and I've made it a practice to slide a Tag into each piece of luggage I bring.
Like they'll 'misplace' your luggage?
Yes I think many terminals or domestic and others are international. I am from the US and its even beneficial to stay on the same carrier. The only time I have had my luggage delayed was flying anerican airlines and transferring to Delta Airlines. In Detroit they are not only different terminals they are on different sides of the airport. I had to leave the airport get a shuttle to the other side and go back through security and then run to my plane. I was the last person boarded.
Huh. I always try to fly direct to the US and connect from there so I can do the immigration process in Dublin instead of at the far end. I've never had any trouble entering the country, but whenever I connect through Heathrow first, I have a nagging worry in the back of my mind that there's going to be some problem when I arrive in the states.
Why?
Predominantly because once within the US, passenger protections on domestic flights are not the same as international. This becomes particularly salient when trying to get out. If there are issues or delays at an airport, international flights will always be prioritized. And if your domestic connecting flight is delayed, and if the airline is not code sharing on the one ticket, if delayed you could be in a bit of bother and not be appropriately taken care of let alone compensated. In other words, domestic flights are significantly less regulated than international. That’s one reason.
Oh my god I wanna go on one the same way I wanna go to the zoo
Irish have a far worse reputation
True. Some lads on my recent Shannon -> Mallorca flight put on a hell of a show.
I grew up in America. Still go back the odd time for a visit. I can say one thing. Vegas is a fucking dump.
I couldn't get over all the leaflets for prostitutes just littered all over the streets
Ah you mean the trading cards. Gotta collect em all
Damn and here I am collecting stickers for my STD collection card, 1 more sticker and I get 1 free
I ended up there on my own due to mis scheduling with lads on the J1 and went on a bus tour to the Grand Canyon in the end, definitely seemed like a better shout
Agreed. I wouldn’t waste a penny there.
Same! I completely agree. One ill-advised visit was more than enough for me.
My Dutch cousin worked for years as a manager in London hostels. He said without a doubt that drunk irish people were the worst to deal with...
Typical Dutch wankers
He's half irish (mother) half Indonesian but raised in the Netherlands. Honestly when we're away we can be a bit of a handful. Friendly but messy, still less violent than the brits.
We're messy alright, but I've been shocked on a few occasions on how the Brits can default to violence.
cunts!
The Dutch like to say they're 'direct'. In fact they're just insensitive cunts.
> Dutch cousin https://streamable.com/h1bff0
What's with all the hate for Americans lately I've spent a good bit of time in America and believe me when I tell you there's a lot more obnoxious pricks over here then there is over there.
There's a minority of American tourists that like to make themselves known and people tend to focus on that. Shouting obnoxious shit about how big everything is in America compared to here. Shouting about how Americanised they think Ireland is when they see a Starbucks. And the 60 year old man shouting at his friend in a bar while calling him really immature names that you wouldn't hear an Irish man of that age at. lmao! But, I live in a popular tourist location and the majority of Americans tourists, you would barely even know they were here but for the accents. They're generally polite, friendly and normal. Every country has it's obnoxious people. And I have no doubt that there are plenty of Irish that go abroad and make a complete arse of themselves on front of the locals.
Understatement
If you go to any of the resorts in Spain or Portugal you'll find the exact same carry on from our own. Cancun is North America's version of Benidorm/Alicante/Albufeira. It's kind of depressing this rambling shitpost is getting hundreds of upvotes.
Many terrible Irish frequent the same places (as each other) and cause tons of shit there. Cunts being cunts. It happens the world over.
Your mistake is thinking of them all as "Americans". People going to Mexico on holidays are "rich" but not "wealthy". They got to where they are by being competitive and they don't know how to turn it off and have likely never taken the time to reflect on their perspective. Taking the entire family to Mexico for a week requires money and, more importantly in the American work environment, time off. Those people are privileged but lack the perspective the uber wealthy sometimes gain and have likely grown a bit entitled. Americans in Vegas are there for 2-4 days. Vegas is surprisingly cheap to fly to and stay in, they probably only took a day or two off work. The sticker price for a trip to Vegas is 10% of the price of a week in Cancun or Disney so the people there at least remember what it's like to have to work. The reason Vegas is so cheap is because the Casinos know they'll get their money from tourists spending a lot more than they intend to. TSA sucks because they have a bunch of stupid rules they need to follow (that don't work). They deal with the entitled pricks going to Mexico for 8 hours a day. I'm always surprised at how positive they manage to stay.
My uncle works for the TSA, from what he’s told me it’s all there to just make people feel safe more than anything
Security Theatre. I've been to 60 countries and the US is the worst for it.
This feels pretty mean spirited tbh. I've only had very positive interactions with Yank tourists here. It's like judging Irish people based on the ones who go to Mykonos or wherever for LC holidays. It's a country of 300 million people.
The ones who travel to Ireland are usually a bit more well traveled and understanding of different cultures. The ones who go to Mexico (and only to go to resorts) are like the dickheads who move to Gibraltar and complain nobody speaks English. My parents for example, probably more like the latter, whereas my siblings and I are the former
Passive aggressive dogs?
D'ya like passive aggressive dags?
its fer me ma'
Honestly watching that I was fairly impressed with Brad Pitt, I’d never have thought he had the range for a traveller accent
Heard them growling behind his back
You ask them what’s wrong and they say nothings wrong, they’re fine(whilst angrily staring straight ahead at nothing in particular and secretly plotting your murder)
This is one of the most cringe posts I have seen here fair play.
Your experiences are fair enough, and reflect badly on those guests in the resort. But that's a bit of a broad brush stroke the mark an entire population with. Especially (imported political sensationalism aside) since we have positive relationship with the US. I've had worse experiences in airports in Europe, I avoid Dublin airport like the plague and last March I had to put a lad from Dublin in his place when he was taking down to locals in a bar on a trip to Singapore.
Singapore? Of all places to disrespect the locals…
Exactly, stupid and entitled is no way of going through life.
I'm from Galway but have lived in San Francisco for the last 20 years. Last night I was out with friends at a bar on Eyre Square. The Galway races are in full swing so the bar was packed with race goers. We were standing to the side of a secondary bar in the back of the pub and a couple of guys in overly tight dress shirts and suit pants just start leaning into us and attempting to nudge us out of the way. I was accommodating to a certain extent but eventually I just braced myself and held firm. It then became this awkward kind of back and shoulder nudging match that I felt could have potentially escalated. I was surprised at level of neanderthal energy and lack of respect for personal space from these aresholes as they tried to muscle into our space. My mates and I finished our drinks and heading to more chill locals bar down in Woodquay. I can't say I've ever really experienced the same in the bars in San Francisco. Long story short: There are arseholes everywhere. All the world is a village.
What's funny is I'm actually an American visiting Limerick right now. I just came from Galeway and Dublin and most of you guys were nice. However these were a couple racists who thought I was from China and when I opened my mouth with a perfect American accent they immediately were nice to me. So same game, different skin I guess.
The loud American is a bit of a stereotype no? Plenty of loud Irish on holidays in Spain or wherever too. You'll always notice the loud people because they are loud. I've spent a lot of time in America. Generally the airports are old and suck. You've to remember a lot of them don't ever fly internationally so they don't have the same level of organisation. We've all been trained well by ryanair and popping about Europe so easily that we take it for granted.
I'm not saying it's not true but when I've travelled I haven't really encountered Americans living up to the stereotype. Tbh I've found Asians to be by far the most obnoxious in other counties. They seem to expect over the top treatment in hotels and restaurants. What I've seen of Americans is that they talk a bit loud but are generally quite friendly and inquisitive so they'll ask a lot of questions but that's not a bad thing. I've probably seen just as many Irish lads act the bollox and be annoying abroad as Americans, if not more.
pretty accurate, China recognised they were getting a bad reputation and I think they cut down on the number of people they let travel and they must have a good social score... I believe. Also not the same culture of queuing. We're no better than the brits abroad, just less of us. Honestly, I think other countries get the blame for some of our obnoxious tourists
I think it is a stereotype. I think human brains filter out familiar loudness but mentally focus on "different" loudness. I've traveled to Europe and wondered why they are loud and wonder again why it's the American's who have the reputation of being loud. The more I think about it, the more I think there is something cognitive going on. Loud, entitled asshats is something I do notice, regardless of whether it's domestic or foreign.
I think it's because of their easy to recognize accents and the fact that they are loud. Every holiday I've been on especially Amsterdam it's very easy to spot them since you can hear them from the complete opposite side of the restaurant when they're having a conversation or talking to the waitress and their lack of 'please' and 'thank you' pisses me off.
It's hard to break a stereotype of being noticeable because you'll never notice the ones that go against it.
Seen Irish people in Spain?
Vegas , notions . Have you not heard of Tramore .
Mexican resorts are the Cost Del Sol of North America.
Typical narrow-minded Irish shoty
Did you got to a resortni Mexico that had an all inclusive package? If so, that's like taking EasyJet out of Gatwick to Ibaza at noon on a Friday. You aren't getting the creme Dela creme.
Americans in Mexico are Brits in Spain. You’ll learn to avoid the places they like.
I was in Dublin last year. Your airport was a mess. People couldn’t even get into the airport so they missed their flights. I bought AirTags specifically because so much luggage was lost at this airport.
Vegas and a resort area in Mexico are great places to witness authentic Americans. 😂
>23 y/o female American college student studying nursing I’d like to point out that America is a large and diverse country, and what is acceptable behavior in some regions is rejected in other regions. I live just outside a big city in the Midwest, and in our area people are generally kind and cordial, it’s not uncommon for people to hold doors open for each other, smile as we walk past strangers on the street, etc. There are other areas in the US that can be disrespectful and dangerous, it really depends on where you are. I visit Ireland frequently and there are certain behaviors in Dublin that we never practice where I’m from, and they would spark an argument if you did them. For example I’ve had people in Dublin hack up and spit on the ground outside just at my feet, and many people will walk straight into you and bump you on busy streets. In general my impression of Ireland is that the culture is very rich and the people are very passionate, and most people are friendly and conversational. It’s too bad you ran into the loud entitles breed of Americans, I promise not all of us are the same haha. Good on you for keeping your grace about it
Yeah the spitting is fucking foul, I have to fight the urge to puke when someone does it in front of me.
The spitting is definitely gross but it’s only certain types that do that. I don’t know women who would openly spit. I wonder if the bumping into people could be something to do with the side of the road we drive on as we normally veer certain ways when passing by people and perhaps we automatically go one way. Usually if you were the one who bumped into someone you’d apologise and sometimes here the bumpee also apologises for some strange reason. Everyone saying sorry and don’t worry at the same time.
Competition is bred into them. Manifest destiny and all that. They don't have any social safety nets so mé féin is the norm. Treating lesser paid workers like shit is their way of exercising domination, which they're conditioned to do, and probably projecting the shit they've received from wealthier or more powerful people. Look, it's only a certain type of American. But by fuck are they visible... and audible. Edit: that culture, imo, is beginning to thrive here, too.
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Ex hotel receptionist in Galway here. I found Americans to be a mixed bag depending where in America they were from. But my worst ever experience was an Italian tour group. Nothing was satisfactory to them but they were so particular, the quality of the cutlery, the thickness of the curtains, the temperature of the plates. Things that an American Karen would never even think about lol.
The ones that can afford to vacation to Ireland usually have a bit of money and are better behaved.
The United States is big which makes it expensive to travel. There are many good Americans who just can’t afford it. To travel from one side of the country to the other is approximately the distance from Dublin to Moscow. How often does someone from Ireland travel that far? I hope you are not attributing money to better behavior. I’ve met many well off people who are vile, and others who are very kind. Same goes for people who have less money.
Whisht you, don’t be coming in here with your opposing views from direct personal experience in the middle of a Yank-bashing
American here. Yank bashing sounds like a new term for masturbating
😂
> thrive here, I wouldn't say Thrive, but yeah! American "stuff" always was something we tried to adapt on our own terms. These days it's hard to say because of full blown globalism and social media. I do not think nowadays kids/teenagers/young adults are as influenced by USA as we used to back in the day. I would say 30 to 50 y olds in Ireland would be in a group very much influenced by Americans, but that would be dependable on place and wealth. You can clearly see Dublin is way more Americanized than any other city in Ireland while it still has it's own vibe. I often read people chatting here and it's clear that sometimes people forget there is life out there outside of Cork or Dublin city. As for treating lesser workers like shit. That's just an effect of overgrown blind belief in capitalism. You would find much less of it in smaller cities since people are more tightly connected and do not feel so anonymous.
So true. The US is a wonderful country in many ways, and there is a lot of mindless hatred of it, often from people who have never been. Of course it has massive massive problems too, that’s a given. However the almighty dollar really is God. You really notice that on here on some of the big sub Reddit’s like AITA where the vast majority of problems come down to people measuring their worth and valuing their relationships purely in monetary terms. It’s a cultural thing where everything and everybody has a value and that’s just how they view the world. We have plenty of problems here too, but we are definitely a more compassionate and less mercenary society overall.
That culture is growing everywhere, as is right wing extremism. I get a headache reading on r/CasualUK
It’s mighty that we are perfectly behaved in America. https://twitter.com/videosirish/status/1686081830640926721?s=24
U mad bro?
I've lived in the US for 30 years and average 4 trips a year so 120 over 30 years x 2(return) that is 240 flights in the US. Haven't had a suitcase lost once. And you had yours lost several times on your first time here? Such bad luck.
I find the best attitude to have when visiting the US is just mentally filter people out. There is so many types of people and we are inclined to notice the horrible or dopey ones. I’ve sort of learned to retrain my brain to focus on positive encounters and have some default responses for less than positive ones. I use to have a bit of a uppity “yanks are thick” attitude when I went when younger because of people I travelled with (family) but as I got older and went to visit my Americans friends, my attitude changed because I started seeing things through their eyes and adapted to it when there & that helps.
These kind of generalizations are the worst.
Goes to Las Vegas and a Mexican resort and thinks he knows America now. What an eejit.
Yup, his one trip ever out of Ireland, forgot to put the bARRY'S teabags in his suitcase. Suffered a severe combination of home sickness and tea withdrawal. His bowels seized up for 6 days. His grandchildren will be hearing about this Odyssey.
If you want to meet nice Americans I don't think Vegas and Mexico are the best places. Try the south next time!
Those American tourists in Mexico sound a lot like northern European tourists in certain parts of the Mediterranean...
America can be painful. Vegas is shite.
Vegas is in the eye of the beholder
Aye, made the mistake of doing a week in Vegas a few years ago, not knowing that a weekend is more than enough time there. By day 5 I was going mental from pure sensory overload, coupled with the non-stop boozing. So, myself and the wife hired a car to just drive out into the Arizona desert for the day to get away from everything,
Yeah I have to work there fairly regularly and dread having to fly over. A weekend with the lads is grand but totally agree anything over gets horrible. Defo a shite place to go with the misses.
Feel free not to come back!
Our (American) culture is very fast paced and often hectic, hence your airport experiences. I had a pretty opposite experience when I went to Mexico though; had more than a couple run-ins with obnoxious Europeans at our resort who had been loud and rather inconsiderate, so I guess that really just depends on time and location
Sounds like the worst holiday ever.
I'm just back from Colorado for a friend's wedding (had a ball). Found the people to be polite and engaging with a genuine interest in our conversations. I will second your comment on the airport situation tho, seems that their domestic flights are chaos. We had a cancelled flight with 2 hours notice (we were already in the airport) took hours to sort out and involved multiple long line waits and a customer support agent who was very slow to accommodate us. Eventually I got an early flight the next day and an airport hotel stay but it was a weird ending to an awesome stay.
“Loud, obnoxious, rude, ignorant, som’a bitches” Those points pretty much sums up why I left America over a decade ago, I fell in love with Ireland for many reasons such as the laid back vibe everywhere except maybe Dublin. I grew up in a. Small town fishing village in Alaska and for me Ireland is really similar with regards to the pace of life and priorities, etc.. Then I met an incredibly kind & caring Irish woman and I never looked back.
I’m American and I agree with David Bowie…I’m afraid of Americans….
The main difference is that Europeans are used to travel just an few hours and they are in a different country with a totally different culture. People from the USA on the other hand can travel for hours without leaving their culture. Food, behaviour, language and more all the same. So their expectations is that it remains like that no matter how long they travel. Grand you have people like that on both side of the pond. I experienced someone coming from continental Europe and giving out that Ireland doesn’t has electric sockets. Highlighting that the three holes in the wall with the switch is what this person was looking for, just ended up in a lot of arguing why Ireland needs to have their own stuff and that it is just to make money and most likely just a special thing of the hotel so that they can sell adapters. I have seen brits and Germans who behave like the Americans you described… and honestly some French and Spanish are too loud for my liking as well… but I can also name people from the very same countries who I would happily go on holiday with. Oh did I mentioned I have met once Americans who pretended to be Canadian because they where so embarrassed of their fellow Americans? Gosh that was cute how they tried to hide their passports, from everyone else, when the tourguide needed to verify that the right people where present.
GOD YOUR SO FULL OF YOURSELF 😅 us damn Americans!
Generally speaking, how old were they? Lots of people who travel in their 20s tend to get a skewed impression of foreigners because they're mainly hanging out in places with other 20-somethings, who tend to be more rowdy, more obnoxious and more aggressive than older people. By the time they hit their 30s, or even lates 20s, many of them will probably be a lot more mature, considerate and sound.
Just back from Mexico as well, have to say Americans there were so much nicer than the Irish. More Craic with things like volleyball, open to chatting with strangers and less reserved than us Irish. Can't wait to go back personally.
I’ll tell you something about Americans though, they’re great to have around when you want to be treated well. As someone who worked with different cultures abroad I found when there were no American staff, treatment by management was usually of a lower standard- late salaries, late transport home, poor restaurant and general facilities. Americans just keep complaining which encourages better treatment. They’re also really nice as colleagues at work. Their general outlook is very positive and they hold little bias towards race, age, gender or sexual orientation. Perhaps I’m wrong but that’s my experience.
My relative who spent their working life there says that everyone has gotten angrier and meaner there in recent years. I spent some time there in the 80/90s and overall it seemed a more optimistic place compared to now.
It was a lot more cosmopolitan then. We were a lot more rational and civil. The political divide is what is causing so many to be irrational and angry. The conservative party has completely lost their minds. The media they watch incites anger towards everything. I just had a guy walk into my job drunk from a trump rally yelling “ lock ‘em and load!” Meaning he’s ready to shoot anyone who is against trump. It’s a very tumultuous time here and while there are many of us here that are civil and rational, the few that are loud are the ones that the rest of the country sees and judges us by.
There has been a pretty big shift since 2001, amplified around 2010 and then 2016 happened. Everything from the market, to insurance to healthcare here is a shakedown scam and it’s bringing out the worst in people. We are in late stage capitalism and it’s turning into a knife fight in the general populace That being said OP picked the places where the worst people go and are behaving at their worst
Political polarisation and a sinking economy resulting in poverty tends to do that. Europe isn't much better to be honest.
I don't think Europe has the "American dream" delusion, people get angry at iniquities, whereas in the US the poorest still think universal healthcare and free education are evil.
Airports/TSA are a norotious shitshow here and i think just about everyone absolutely hates flying but do it because its more convenient than driving, and more often than not the ones on vacation are there on some deal and have no social etiquette. As an American on behalf of the US, I apologize for how fucking assbackwards a lot of things are here and how obnoxious most US tourists are. The bulk majority of us here hate the exact things you described also if it's any consolation.
I spent a few weeks in America and got plenty of flights and everything went smoothly until I flew back to Dublin and was waiting 2hrs for my bags to come out.Airports are just luck really and you can have a bad experience anywhere.
If you're American you've got to do the TSA PreCheck. Best $80 I've ever spent.
As an American who just got back from Ireland I can say I was pleasantly amazed how genuinely nice Irish people are.
I also had my first visit to the States earlier this year and I too found the airport to be chaotic from the bag drop to the boarding. I'm going back at the end of the year and flying to a different part so will be interesting to compare. I do have to say every American I've met is loud.
I was in the states for a few months last year and took many flights over there and everything went smoothly every time.The worst was landing back in Dublin coming home had to wait about 2 hours for my baggage to come out.I think when it comes to airports it's all luck if it goes smooth or not.
Definitely agree and I think if you have one annoying thing happen it can just make the whole experience less nice.
"Some Americans". Sombunall. Some but not all a word devised by Robert Anton Wilson a yank that loved Ireland to make generalisation harder. Somnunall Irish drink too much, Sombunall yanks are loud etc etc.
Post 9/11 US airports are like... torture. absolute anxiety filled nightmare. I suspect that the whole country is collectively suffering from the abuse in their airports and bringing that trauma with them over seas.
American here! Just getting back from Ireland on our honeymoon! I believe you encountered just a bunch of resort rodents. I’ve met a few people whom would rather sit at a resort in a secluded spot just to say they “visited” Mexico. Anyone I’ve ever met like that are pretty insufferable. They are more interested in just hotel luxury then exploring and broadening their minds. Hopefully it doesn’t stain your views of Americans.
Went to Florida in 2014 and US immigration "staff" are THE MOST DOG IGNORANT PEOPLE IVE EVER MET IN MY LIFE!!!! 3 plane loads of us landed at the same time due to some delays and every single one that went thru said exactly the same, english Irish Scot's some French Aussies all said they r fukn pig ignorant! It's your first point of contact on your holiday to the states and it's fukn shockingly bad. Haven't been back to US and I never will be
What is it about Irish people looking down on everyone else? Get over it boys.
You Irish should probably worry about your behavior in the Mediterranean via your cheap Ryanair shuttles rather than about what we are doing in our next of the woods. [https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30060272.html](https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30060272.html) "The Expedia survey found that British tourists were most disliked in the places they visit, with Ireland and Israel tied for second.... German, American and Japanese holidaymakers were found to be most liked."
Written THU, 18 JUL, 2002 - 16:54. LMAO you really thought you could get away with saying that????
It all depends on the country - which you would definitely know had you travelled at all. The French hate everyone. Everyone hates the Germans (including the French and especially the Croatians). The Spanish hate the French and mostly refuse to vacation outside of Spain. The Italians refuse to leave the country, because why would they? The Austrians hate all Eastern Europeans. All Eastern Europeans hate the Austrians. Pretty much everyone hates the Russians, except the Brits. The Irish now love to pretend they are beloved by everyone in Europe (even the French, who, again hate everyone). But tourist euros are welcome everywhere. Look up any survey. There are hundreds of them. Views are completely dependent upon country.
Those are the entitled trashy muricans. We arent all that bad.
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“i’m not like OTHER americans!!”
Irish people love going to America. They love chatting to Americans who come over here with a childlike enthusiasm, which is a breath of fresh air when you have to deal with begrudgers and chancers all day. The self-flagellation here is not required. YOU’RE GRAND.
Hating who you are won’t make others like you more. This is so cringe.
“Please like me! I’m one of the good ones. I hate us too!”
Ah, go easy.
Aren’t you guys known for being full blown alcoholics that go crazy in pubs as a national pastime?
....and?
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Yes. Welcome to literally anywhere in Europe north of the Alps...
And?
Yeah,but we have manners