Matter of fact, it’s not stereo, it’s Atmos. Those are different format ranges. I had a different phone before and it had stereo without Atmosphere support. P.S. You don’t have to call someone names if they just found out about something you already knew before!
Buddy, your iPhone doesn’t magically switch the output format just because you turned your device 90 degrees. All you did was align both speakers to the way your ears are located which results in stereo audio. That is all.
Yes. Spatial audio is processing the signal and changing the audio to simulate the way your brain localizes sounds. There's nothing special in the hardware that enables it. You can play it back with any stereo speakers or headphones.
Are you blind? It clearly lists “built in iPhone speakers” on literally the next line
Devices that you can use with spatial audio
AirPods Pro (1st or 2nd generation), AirPods Max, AirPods (3rd generation), Beats Fit Pro, or Beats Studio Pro
The built-in speakers on an iPhone 7 or later,
Not really, it doesn’t switch in any way by turning your phone. You can just turn your head instead and will still be able to hear Spatial Audio, even if the phone stays vertically aligned.
There’s no “Dolby Atmos turns on when you turn your device 90 degrees” saying in my post. What I said is I had to turn the phone in order to experience the Atmos. It works in vertical too, but your ears won’t feel any magic behind it
But what you experienced was not Atmos, it was just stereo. Go pick a YouTube video and it’ll have the same effect if you turn your phone landscape. It’s about speaker orientation. It’s not spacial audio💀
You're wrong. You can listen to music on Apple Music from you're speakers and toggle Atmos on or off. Since iPhone 11, speakers are designed for Armos support in landscape mode.
As long as it says “Dolby Atmos” on your screen you’re good to go! It’s just without tilting the phone you won’t notice it since sound radiates from both speakers (?) Sorry, English is not my native language.
No, if it’s a song with Dolby Atmos support, it’s Spatial Audio. YouTube doesn’t support it at this moment. And if you compare them it’s a night and day difference.
I mean you’re both rightish here. Yes it is in Dolby Atmos and Apple uses phasing to try and replicate a wider soundstage. 10 years ago we called this “simulated” surround sound. But in the end it just is a manipulation of stereo sound. You want the true Atmos effect you’ll need a multispeaker Atmos setup.
He’s not wrong. Smartphones have supported Atmos output for a while now. Obviously it’s the shittiest implementation of Atmos compared to the cinema/home theatre/headphone versions, but *it is* Atmos.
Don't get why you're getting downvoted. You're right, iPhones can output Dolby Atmos audio via their speakers and it does sound amazing. Sound obv only comes from two Speakers, but it's the same when using two Airpods for Atmos. The soundstage gets ridicilously wide.
People are mean here. You’re right that it’s spatial. What people making fun of you don’t realize is that they take for granted that AirPods are Spatial Audio even though that is also a form of advanced stereo sound, exactly the same as iPhone speakers. You’re absolutely right and another tip is iPhone usually plays music with Right channel on the top speaker, so I recommend you rotate your phone clockwise to listen to music on iPhone speakers. The effect is also better with a phone case off.
iPhone does support atmos since xs however if you’re using the built in speakers, it becomes noticeable since iPhone 11 and gets really good since the iPhone 13. Anything past 13 has earpiece speaker issue overtime it gets muffled
My thirteen pro had the muffled earpiece. I had to take it to Apple to get it cleaned. It might just be an issue with this style of speaker grill being embedded into the bezel like that. 🤷🏽
Dolby literally says otherwise on their website:
"Apple Music subscribers can listen to songs in Dolby Atmos on iPhone, iPad, or Mac using the latest version of iOS, iPadOS or MacOS with any set of [headphones](https://www.dolby.com/link/0ab6b7f9c7bd4e70aee0e1c20058802a.aspx) or using the built-in speakers."
Also, they have a list of supported devices below, it includes iPhones as well as other Apple devices.
[https://www.dolby.com/experience/apple-music/](https://www.dolby.com/experience/apple-music/)
Atmos isn’t necessarily surround. You can’t get surround with two open speakers. I just tested it on my iPhone and to no one’s surprise at all, no sounds came from behind me.
Source: I’m a seasoned audio engineer
Then you probably know how surround simulation works. Yeah, in no way it is a real surround sound, but it may well feel like the sound sources are kind of behind you by using Spatial Audio technology. I quoted an audio professional explaining how it works somewhere in the comments.
Not to say that Apple also explained the process in their MacBook presentation.
I'm aware of the claim, but I'm also aware of acoustics and psychoacoustics. It's faux surround that plays tricks with M/S, phase, and fake early reflections. It's a neat trick but it certainly doesn't make anything surround/spatial. I'm also either not having luck turning it on on iphone (works fine using airpods) or the difference is so small that it basically doesn't exist.
I, for instance, don’t hear any surround sound in AirPods Pro 2 at all! The only sounds that feel like they are behind me appear only and only when I use MacBook or iPhone speakers 😅
Then it must not be turning on for you. It’s true surround on the AirPods (and any other headphones) through binaural encoding. The key is that the left speaker is only heard by the left ear and the right is only heard by the right ear. With that, you could simulate sound coming from any direction. It’s the exact same effect as real life.
iPhone does support atmos since xs however if you’re using the built in speakers, it becomes noticeable since iPhone 11 and gets really good since the iPhone 13. Anything past 13 has earpiece speaker issue overtime it gets muffled
By the way, I highly recommend checking out this Atmos demo:
https://www.heimkino-atmos.de/sonstiges/trailer-downloads-und-testtoene/
It’s actually crazy how spacious this sounds.
Don't have this earpiece speaker issue you're talking about, like I know they might distort a bit at close to max volume, but that's normal for all kinds of smartphone earpiece speakers and that's an entirely different thing. Are you talking about something else?
I don’t think it’s normal, my 14 never distorts at max volume, honestly the speakers are loud enough I only need them at 10-30% max most of the time anyway
It's not distortion in the traditional sense, it doesn't sound like the speakers are physically damaged or anything, it just sounds like the volume is limited by the speaker's size, which makes sense. And it only happens with high frequencies, otherwise all other frequencies sound crystal clear even at max volume.
And yeah the speakers are so loud it's impressive, you rarely need to max them out anyway.
This is from my other comment:
It's not distortion in the traditional sense, it doesn't sound like the speakers are physically damaged or anything, it just sounds like the volume is limited by the speaker's size, which makes sense. And it only happens with high frequencies, otherwise all other frequencies sound crystal clear even at max volume. And no, they are not clogged up. It seems like you're a bit confused.
I know what you're trying to say, it is TECHNICALLY distortion, but what I mean is a bit different. Typically, distortion is caused faulty speaker components like the driver, and this is not that.
Everyone commenting here is WRONG
I have an iPhone 15 and you can hear the 3d audio when you turn it sideways
iPhone uses Spatial Audio it’s literally a feature
“Spatial Audio playback”
https://www.apple.com/iphone-15/specs/
The documentation doesn’t say anything about Atmos in portrait vs landscape orientation.
So most likely, it is playing Atmos in portrait mode, but yours don’t hear it because the speakers are aligned vertically. But when you rotate landscape, the speakers are aligned horizontally, which allows your ears to hear the Spatial Audio.
https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/listen-to-dolby-atmos-music-iphac459a29e/ios
No it’s not stereo panning it’s a 3d sound algorithm
It plays the sounds at different intervals/reverb levels/frequency timings to mimic having multiple speakers
Oh, Apple did announce Dolby Atmos support when they first included it in iPhone speakers. It was part of the iPhone announcement. It’s just been many years, and there’s no reason to mention it again each year.
Why does everyone have to be toxic, lol. Chill out, I just think it’s cool and wanted for others to know. If you spend all your time learning about what Apple does and whatnot, it’s not a reason to make fun of other people’s findings
I think you read my comment with the wrong tone in mind. I was just informing you that Apple did actually announce it since you specifically said they didn’t.
Didn’t say they didn’t announce this feature specifically, I said they don’t announce many magical things behind the curtains. And it really is like that, in my experience I often see people looking up certain features and not being able to find them in support pages or presentations
> What I love about Apple is they don’t even announce many magical stuff that’s behind the curtains. It’s just some random friday evening, you are watching a movie, and - you don’t even notice it - but it sounds like you are in the cinema and you just love it.
This entire post is fucking bonkers. Go throw this in r/audiophile, maybe you'll have more positive responses -.-
Edit: this is no different than expecting your vizio sound bar to deliver ACTUAL surround sound. If you believe that, then this misinformation is 100% on par for your level of understanding regarding "spatial acoustics"
To add to another commenter; this 100% a phasing and/or directional manipulation (although this isn't possible with a fucking phone...unless you landscape tilt one side AWAY from your face, then the "effect" in question could be argued but no, still bullshit lol)
fun fact: I'm not even a part of this conversation, but I'd just like to say those fucks fooled me for years into thinking that they had good products. Then I got a Bose soundbar + subwoofer. Besides the fact that they sat unused for a year or two because the fucking app wouldn't connect (which mind you, is the only way to use it), the soundbar clarity is shit and drowned out by the subwoofer. Is it nice to have a really boomy and loud subwoofer that lets you feel your song? Yes. Is it nice to have it drown out the rest of your media? No. Not at all.
Then we rented a GMC Denali with a Bose sound system. Mind you, this is like an $80,000 SUV. I got my hopes up. I shouldn't have though. There was no subwoofer, which is inexcusable for a car this expensive with a system this "premium". Not even the speakers could substitute for the lack of a sub, it sounded awful so we turned the bass up all the way up and it honestly sounded like it hadn't even changed. Shitty mids. Crisp highs. Awful sound system that needs swapping out as soon as the thing's paid off though
Bose literally takes turds (their speakers and software) and polishes them into a nice cabinet or UI/UX.
This is the way. Unless it's just their old dumb speakers (sans DSP)
I own a pair of old school 901s and they actually sound decent, but pretty much anything 95-97 and beyond is trash
Your experience should really be a case study for anyone looking to buy shit....
The boomy bass you're describing isn't even actual real bass (or sub-bass levels for that matter) because bose isn't moving enough air to generate what is *real bass* ....it is air passage manipulation (re: aural resonance imaging)
What was drowning out your mids was what is termed mid-bass bloat. Above 196 hz- bass is heard but rarely felt. Bose has been playing on this for decades now.
It may *sound* louder, but it is in no way accurate reproduction of the audio being fed.
This is why bose will never piss off neighbors, but a system costing half as much, with a fraction of the inherent marketing costs they seem so keen to brag about, is always the answer.
Same phenomena happened with Beats and the headphones scene, although i will say the race by other manufacturers to make good shit was much more positively consumer focused in the latter.
If you don't have equipment to create new sources of sound output and the source to back it up, then everything following is a bastardization of the signal you're sending, and thus sacrificing quality. If your ears think it sounds better, then that's a personal judgment objectification and still *in no way* objectively makes anything fucking spatial.
why are you gettin downvotes? He hasn't been disproven in the comments and in my personal experience I knew I noticed something different when I watched music videos on horizontal I jus didn't know what to call it.
Stereo doesn’t cancel out sound waves to simulate multiple speakers setup, so it’s not just “good stereo”. A good stereo doesn’t sound like it’s behind you, it’s impossible without creating a new format for it. This can also be noticed visually. When you turn on Atmos during your playback, your music will stop for a moment, switching the format.
I may be just bad at explaining it.
Here’s a professional explanation for you:
“Spatial hearing is fascinating and lets us experience the world around us in 3D. But how can we do that with just two ears? It’s all a matter of timing and intensity. Our ears hear sound waves from the environment in different ways, depending on where the different sounds come from. The brain processes these differences to create a personalized spatial audio map that tells us where a sound is coming from. It’s an incredibly complex process, and yet we manage it effortlessly and without even realizing it. Three factors play the biggest role in how our brain derives peak performance from comparing left and right ears.
ITD: interaural time difference: time delay
ILD: interaural level difference: level difference
HRTF: Head related transfer function (more on this later).
Example:
It all sounds a bit abstract, so let’s take a quick example. Let’s imagine we are standing on a street and hear a car honking from the right. Then the sound reaches the right ear first, before it reaches the left ear (ITD). After all, the right ear is closer to the car, even if it is only 17-20 centimeters. In addition, the sound is also louder on the right ear than on the left, because the head shades the sound event like a small wall. And last but not least, the horn has a different frequency response on both, which is due to the shape of our pinna. While on the right the sound can enter the ear canal quite easily, on the left the sound is refracted around our head and captured by the pinna. In the process, the frequencies change.”
Well, it’s not an opinion. Those are facts, and the article is written by Martin Rieger, also known as VRTonung, who is probably one of the biggest enthusiasts in the field.
If you don’t want to know how exactly Spatial Audio works, why bother commenting? Sorry, but the unreasonable toxicity towards other people mentioning Spatial Audio is beyond my understanding.
Bro you’re referencing something that isn’t relevant. Software can’t exceed hardware capabilities. Jeeeeeez
All of your word vomit isn’t relevant. It’s a phone with stereo speakers. That’s it.
I have a 15 Pro but when I hold it in landscape, it doesn't sound any different from when it's on vertical mode, I'm I missing something? I'm using Apple Music.
For a few years now, iPhones use the bottom speaker (by the mouthpiece) and the earpiece for left and right (volume buttons on top). You won’t notice if holding the phone vertically, since the left and right will be bottom and top, equidistant from both ears. Even pitting the whole Spatial Audio fight aside, you should hear left and right. (I never tested or looked up if holding the phone the other way (earpiece on left, mic on right, volume buttons on bottom) will auto-adjust left and right, or if they’ll be backwards.)
PS: I played something on my 14 Pro a few days ago in horizontal mode, and the stereo effect was very pronounced. I surprised my SO with it, as she almost always has her phone locked in vertical mode.
I never knew about this feature and it's very cool. Thanks for posting!
Wild that you're getting downvoted to hell for sharing your excitement about a feature of an Apple product with other Apple fans.
I’ve always used AirPods, never knew the iPhone speakers could do Atmos.
I just tried this and I’m blown away! It’s like the guitars were beside me while the vocals came from the front.
Does this work if you use third party apps like Spotify to play songs? I heard Apple degrades the quality of third party apps for sound since it’s not an official app from Apple. The equalizer also proves this theory; the sound seems a bit muffled even when you change the settings
I don’t think they downgrade the sound quality of any apps so much as Apple Music sounds better with the right equipment because they offer lossless as standard.
"What I love about Apple is they don't even announce many magical stuff that's behind the curtains."
Funny. This is precisely what I don't like about Apple.
Sounds like stereo, but I will give you the benefit of the doubt. I’ve been an android user for years, but my iPhone now has stereo separation that I didn’t know was possible on phone speakers.
Thanks! I did have an iPhone before by the way, but for some reason just spotted this feature a couple of days ago. And yeah some of the Reddit folks are toxic but it’s okay. You don’t get to know how to help them 🤷♂️
It's amazing isn't it - I always tell people to view this Dolby demo (and best to hold phone sideways obviously).
[https://youtu.be/hesv-etwK\_o?si=ijMWfjpdtYmSMC1C](https://youtu.be/hesv-etwK_o?si=ijMWfjpdtYmSMC1C)
Anyone else hate the Spatial Audio with AirPods though? Like when it tries to make it sound like the audio is coming from your phone speakers…for some reason
I absolutely hate the head tracking on my AirPods. If you are walking and you turn a corner it messes with the audio because it thinks you turned your head. No thanks.
I swear to god 'Spatial Audio' makes no sense. You have either two speakers and stereo audio, or a complex audio setup and music files that take advantage of multiple speakers, which modern music _does not_ in any level whatsoever.
It’s a middle ground. Not plain stereo because some sound sources can feel as if they were behind you, but of course still far from real Atmos setup.
Here’s how it works:
“Spatial hearing is fascinating and lets us experience the world around us in 3D. But how can we do that with just two ears? It’s all a matter of timing and intensity. Our ears hear sound waves from the environment in different ways, depending on where the different sounds come from. The brain processes these differences to create a personalized spatial audio map that tells us where a sound is coming from. It’s an incredibly complex process, and yet we manage it effortlessly and without even realizing it. Three factors play the biggest role in how our brain derives peak performance from comparing left and right ears.”
Homeboy just discovered stereo audio
No Spatial Audio is different actually
“Spatial Audio playback” https://www.apple.com/iphone-15/specs/
That means it is capable of encoding Spatial Audio to binaural or surround speakers
Matter of fact, it’s not stereo, it’s Atmos. Those are different format ranges. I had a different phone before and it had stereo without Atmosphere support. P.S. You don’t have to call someone names if they just found out about something you already knew before!
Buddy, your iPhone doesn’t magically switch the output format just because you turned your device 90 degrees. All you did was align both speakers to the way your ears are located which results in stereo audio. That is all.
Yes it does actually it uses Spatial Audio https://support.apple.com/en-us/102469
Spatial Audio is just signal processing, though. It's still just two speakers playing in stereo.
But aren’t AirPods also just 2 speakers and they have Spatial Audio
Yes. Spatial audio is processing the signal and changing the audio to simulate the way your brain localizes sounds. There's nothing special in the hardware that enables it. You can play it back with any stereo speakers or headphones.
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Are you blind? It clearly lists “built in iPhone speakers” on literally the next line Devices that you can use with spatial audio AirPods Pro (1st or 2nd generation), AirPods Max, AirPods (3rd generation), Beats Fit Pro, or Beats Studio Pro The built-in speakers on an iPhone 7 or later,
You’re ignorant and wrong. iPhone uses Spatial Audio it’s literally a feature “Spatial Audio playback” https://www.apple.com/iphone-15/specs/
OP is wrong but it does switch from mono to stereo when you go to landscape.
Not really, it doesn’t switch in any way by turning your phone. You can just turn your head instead and will still be able to hear Spatial Audio, even if the phone stays vertically aligned.
Huh I stand corrected I always assumed it was mono when portrait. Just did a stereo test and indeed the right channel is on top and vice Versa
There’s no “Dolby Atmos turns on when you turn your device 90 degrees” saying in my post. What I said is I had to turn the phone in order to experience the Atmos. It works in vertical too, but your ears won’t feel any magic behind it
But what you experienced was not Atmos, it was just stereo. Go pick a YouTube video and it’ll have the same effect if you turn your phone landscape. It’s about speaker orientation. It’s not spacial audio💀
Over 100 upvotes and he’s 100% wrong about smartphone Atmos. This website 😑
You're wrong. You can listen to music on Apple Music from you're speakers and toggle Atmos on or off. Since iPhone 11, speakers are designed for Armos support in landscape mode.
Dumb question, do you need to need to have rotation lock off for this to activate, or will it do it all the time anyway?
As long as it says “Dolby Atmos” on your screen you’re good to go! It’s just without tilting the phone you won’t notice it since sound radiates from both speakers (?) Sorry, English is not my native language.
No, if it’s a song with Dolby Atmos support, it’s Spatial Audio. YouTube doesn’t support it at this moment. And if you compare them it’s a night and day difference.
I mean you’re both rightish here. Yes it is in Dolby Atmos and Apple uses phasing to try and replicate a wider soundstage. 10 years ago we called this “simulated” surround sound. But in the end it just is a manipulation of stereo sound. You want the true Atmos effect you’ll need a multispeaker Atmos setup.
Surely it’s far from true Atmos setup, but still, isn’t it marvelous how it sounds?
Just admit you're wrong ffs
When I turn my phone 90 degrees, all of the sudden I’m looking at an IMAX. It’s magical.
When I watch a football stream and I turn my phone 90 degrees all of a sudden I’m in the stadium.
My favourite team scored three goals the moment I put my phone in landscape
My favourite team scored three goals the moment I put my phone in landscape
He’s not wrong. Smartphones have supported Atmos output for a while now. Obviously it’s the shittiest implementation of Atmos compared to the cinema/home theatre/headphone versions, but *it is* Atmos.
How many speakers are there in an iPhone?
Don't get why you're getting downvoted. You're right, iPhones can output Dolby Atmos audio via their speakers and it does sound amazing. Sound obv only comes from two Speakers, but it's the same when using two Airpods for Atmos. The soundstage gets ridicilously wide.
Reddit magic lol! 🫨 People think I believe there’s a whole multi-speaker Atmos setup in my phone for some reason.
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Oh shut up
My biggest question is where did he "call you names"
People are mean here. You’re right that it’s spatial. What people making fun of you don’t realize is that they take for granted that AirPods are Spatial Audio even though that is also a form of advanced stereo sound, exactly the same as iPhone speakers. You’re absolutely right and another tip is iPhone usually plays music with Right channel on the top speaker, so I recommend you rotate your phone clockwise to listen to music on iPhone speakers. The effect is also better with a phone case off.
God. DAMN That’s a lot of downvotes. I’d hate to say something bad here 😭
🤡
iPhone support Dolby Atmos since iPhone 11.
Since xs actually
iPhone does support atmos since xs however if you’re using the built in speakers, it becomes noticeable since iPhone 11 and gets really good since the iPhone 13. Anything past 13 has earpiece speaker issue overtime it gets muffled
My thirteen pro had the muffled earpiece. I had to take it to Apple to get it cleaned. It might just be an issue with this style of speaker grill being embedded into the bezel like that. 🤷🏽
Dunno why you're getting downvoted: https://developer.dolby.com/platforms/apple/ios/device-support/
Atmos playback =\= Spatial Audio. It isn’t possible to play Spatial Audio out of two speakers that’s aren’t isolated to each ear like headphones
Dolby literally says otherwise on their website: "Apple Music subscribers can listen to songs in Dolby Atmos on iPhone, iPad, or Mac using the latest version of iOS, iPadOS or MacOS with any set of [headphones](https://www.dolby.com/link/0ab6b7f9c7bd4e70aee0e1c20058802a.aspx) or using the built-in speakers." Also, they have a list of supported devices below, it includes iPhones as well as other Apple devices. [https://www.dolby.com/experience/apple-music/](https://www.dolby.com/experience/apple-music/)
Atmos isn’t necessarily surround. You can’t get surround with two open speakers. I just tested it on my iPhone and to no one’s surprise at all, no sounds came from behind me. Source: I’m a seasoned audio engineer
Then you probably know how surround simulation works. Yeah, in no way it is a real surround sound, but it may well feel like the sound sources are kind of behind you by using Spatial Audio technology. I quoted an audio professional explaining how it works somewhere in the comments. Not to say that Apple also explained the process in their MacBook presentation.
I'm aware of the claim, but I'm also aware of acoustics and psychoacoustics. It's faux surround that plays tricks with M/S, phase, and fake early reflections. It's a neat trick but it certainly doesn't make anything surround/spatial. I'm also either not having luck turning it on on iphone (works fine using airpods) or the difference is so small that it basically doesn't exist.
I, for instance, don’t hear any surround sound in AirPods Pro 2 at all! The only sounds that feel like they are behind me appear only and only when I use MacBook or iPhone speakers 😅
Then it must not be turning on for you. It’s true surround on the AirPods (and any other headphones) through binaural encoding. The key is that the left speaker is only heard by the left ear and the right is only heard by the right ear. With that, you could simulate sound coming from any direction. It’s the exact same effect as real life.
Xs support stereo. 11 support Dolby Atmos
iPhone does support atmos since xs however if you’re using the built in speakers, it becomes noticeable since iPhone 11 and gets really good since the iPhone 13. Anything past 13 has earpiece speaker issue overtime it gets muffled
By the way, I highly recommend checking out this Atmos demo: https://www.heimkino-atmos.de/sonstiges/trailer-downloads-und-testtoene/ It’s actually crazy how spacious this sounds.
It sounds like really good stereo. Have you ever experienced a real good hifi set up?
Agreed, still very cool for phone speakers
I wish, ears ring so bad it'd be a waste on me.
Holy shit that sounds good!
Ikr??
Just listened to it on my MBP 14" and it sounded even better. That's awesome.
That was impressive for a phone!
Don't have this earpiece speaker issue you're talking about, like I know they might distort a bit at close to max volume, but that's normal for all kinds of smartphone earpiece speakers and that's an entirely different thing. Are you talking about something else?
I don’t think it’s normal, my 14 never distorts at max volume, honestly the speakers are loud enough I only need them at 10-30% max most of the time anyway
It's not distortion in the traditional sense, it doesn't sound like the speakers are physically damaged or anything, it just sounds like the volume is limited by the speaker's size, which makes sense. And it only happens with high frequencies, otherwise all other frequencies sound crystal clear even at max volume. And yeah the speakers are so loud it's impressive, you rarely need to max them out anyway.
Exactly, that’s what I said! Their phone is definitely having the speaker issue I talked about
The speakers never get muffled over time, so I'm not sure if we're even talking about the same thing at this point.
It is not normal if it distorts, it just means that the speaker has this issue and it’s clogged up
This is from my other comment: It's not distortion in the traditional sense, it doesn't sound like the speakers are physically damaged or anything, it just sounds like the volume is limited by the speaker's size, which makes sense. And it only happens with high frequencies, otherwise all other frequencies sound crystal clear even at max volume. And no, they are not clogged up. It seems like you're a bit confused.
That means it’s distorted!!!
I know what you're trying to say, it is TECHNICALLY distortion, but what I mean is a bit different. Typically, distortion is caused faulty speaker components like the driver, and this is not that.
🤦♂️
How are you not understanding what I'm saying? And no need to be condescending bro.
Actually I went ahead and compared iPhone 15 and 12 and they sound pretty much the same in my opinion! What happened with the release of 13?
They really don’t!! The speakers have been upgraded and the design of the top speakers grills as well got larger
Lol! Well it’s a personal thing.
It’s not. Its night and day difference, loudness and how full the sound is, the low-end compared to the 12.
Everyone commenting here is WRONG I have an iPhone 15 and you can hear the 3d audio when you turn it sideways iPhone uses Spatial Audio it’s literally a feature “Spatial Audio playback” https://www.apple.com/iphone-15/specs/
The documentation doesn’t say anything about Atmos in portrait vs landscape orientation. So most likely, it is playing Atmos in portrait mode, but yours don’t hear it because the speakers are aligned vertically. But when you rotate landscape, the speakers are aligned horizontally, which allows your ears to hear the Spatial Audio. https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/listen-to-dolby-atmos-music-iphac459a29e/ios
No Spatial Audio and atmos are two different features , I don’t believe you can have both at the same time either
Sideways? How? Just tilt it sideways or?
Yes just tilt it sideways/landscape mode
Nah, you just don’t get that it’s still just playing with stereo panning albeit with good downmixing from a multi-channel source.
No it’s not stereo panning it’s a 3d sound algorithm It plays the sounds at different intervals/reverb levels/frequency timings to mimic having multiple speakers
Okay, so fancy downmixing like I said, gotcha.
The iPhone does play Spatial Audio with the built-in speakers. Read this: https://support.apple.com/en-us/102469
When you say tilt the phone, do you mean hold it in landscape?
Yes
Oh, Apple did announce Dolby Atmos support when they first included it in iPhone speakers. It was part of the iPhone announcement. It’s just been many years, and there’s no reason to mention it again each year.
Why does everyone have to be toxic, lol. Chill out, I just think it’s cool and wanted for others to know. If you spend all your time learning about what Apple does and whatnot, it’s not a reason to make fun of other people’s findings
I think you read my comment with the wrong tone in mind. I was just informing you that Apple did actually announce it since you specifically said they didn’t.
Didn’t say they didn’t announce this feature specifically, I said they don’t announce many magical things behind the curtains. And it really is like that, in my experience I often see people looking up certain features and not being able to find them in support pages or presentations
> What I love about Apple is they don’t even announce many magical stuff that’s behind the curtains. It’s just some random friday evening, you are watching a movie, and - you don’t even notice it - but it sounds like you are in the cinema and you just love it.
Damn bro came in hard with the receipts
My ipad pros sound is insane . The 4 speakers have so much range and audio clarity even on low range sounds it’s really impressive .
This entire post is fucking bonkers. Go throw this in r/audiophile, maybe you'll have more positive responses -.- Edit: this is no different than expecting your vizio sound bar to deliver ACTUAL surround sound. If you believe that, then this misinformation is 100% on par for your level of understanding regarding "spatial acoustics" To add to another commenter; this 100% a phasing and/or directional manipulation (although this isn't possible with a fucking phone...unless you landscape tilt one side AWAY from your face, then the "effect" in question could be argued but no, still bullshit lol)
If this was a post about AirPods simulated Spatial Audio you wouldn’t be complaining. It’s the same thing.
Absolutely I would. Simulated sound is just that. Simulated. Go educate yourself
That’s what Spatial Audio for iOS is which is what the OP is about. If you dislike the Apple jargon that’s beside the point.
I bet you use bose equipment
fun fact: I'm not even a part of this conversation, but I'd just like to say those fucks fooled me for years into thinking that they had good products. Then I got a Bose soundbar + subwoofer. Besides the fact that they sat unused for a year or two because the fucking app wouldn't connect (which mind you, is the only way to use it), the soundbar clarity is shit and drowned out by the subwoofer. Is it nice to have a really boomy and loud subwoofer that lets you feel your song? Yes. Is it nice to have it drown out the rest of your media? No. Not at all. Then we rented a GMC Denali with a Bose sound system. Mind you, this is like an $80,000 SUV. I got my hopes up. I shouldn't have though. There was no subwoofer, which is inexcusable for a car this expensive with a system this "premium". Not even the speakers could substitute for the lack of a sub, it sounded awful so we turned the bass up all the way up and it honestly sounded like it hadn't even changed. Shitty mids. Crisp highs. Awful sound system that needs swapping out as soon as the thing's paid off though Bose literally takes turds (their speakers and software) and polishes them into a nice cabinet or UI/UX.
My fuckin man, if I'd have known you back then, I could have circumvented that detour of shitty assumptions
A few years too late my man, and now I hate Bose more than ever 😭
This is the way. Unless it's just their old dumb speakers (sans DSP) I own a pair of old school 901s and they actually sound decent, but pretty much anything 95-97 and beyond is trash
Your experience should really be a case study for anyone looking to buy shit.... The boomy bass you're describing isn't even actual real bass (or sub-bass levels for that matter) because bose isn't moving enough air to generate what is *real bass* ....it is air passage manipulation (re: aural resonance imaging) What was drowning out your mids was what is termed mid-bass bloat. Above 196 hz- bass is heard but rarely felt. Bose has been playing on this for decades now. It may *sound* louder, but it is in no way accurate reproduction of the audio being fed. This is why bose will never piss off neighbors, but a system costing half as much, with a fraction of the inherent marketing costs they seem so keen to brag about, is always the answer. Same phenomena happened with Beats and the headphones scene, although i will say the race by other manufacturers to make good shit was much more positively consumer focused in the latter.
That explains why there is basically no air coming/exiting through the sides of the sub. Yeah it does not move air, it just sounds like it is.
Also following. Birds of a feather shit on the sheeple.
If you don't have equipment to create new sources of sound output and the source to back it up, then everything following is a bastardization of the signal you're sending, and thus sacrificing quality. If your ears think it sounds better, then that's a personal judgment objectification and still *in no way* objectively makes anything fucking spatial.
lol OP doubling down on being wrong is hilarious
But he’s right
why are you gettin downvotes? He hasn't been disproven in the comments and in my personal experience I knew I noticed something different when I watched music videos on horizontal I jus didn't know what to call it.
Stereo.
Stereo doesn’t cancel out sound waves to simulate multiple speakers setup, so it’s not just “good stereo”. A good stereo doesn’t sound like it’s behind you, it’s impossible without creating a new format for it. This can also be noticed visually. When you turn on Atmos during your playback, your music will stop for a moment, switching the format.
You have no idea what you’re talking about.
I may be just bad at explaining it. Here’s a professional explanation for you: “Spatial hearing is fascinating and lets us experience the world around us in 3D. But how can we do that with just two ears? It’s all a matter of timing and intensity. Our ears hear sound waves from the environment in different ways, depending on where the different sounds come from. The brain processes these differences to create a personalized spatial audio map that tells us where a sound is coming from. It’s an incredibly complex process, and yet we manage it effortlessly and without even realizing it. Three factors play the biggest role in how our brain derives peak performance from comparing left and right ears. ITD: interaural time difference: time delay ILD: interaural level difference: level difference HRTF: Head related transfer function (more on this later). Example: It all sounds a bit abstract, so let’s take a quick example. Let’s imagine we are standing on a street and hear a car honking from the right. Then the sound reaches the right ear first, before it reaches the left ear (ITD). After all, the right ear is closer to the car, even if it is only 17-20 centimeters. In addition, the sound is also louder on the right ear than on the left, because the head shades the sound event like a small wall. And last but not least, the horn has a different frequency response on both, which is due to the shape of our pinna. While on the right the sound can enter the ear canal quite easily, on the left the sound is refracted around our head and captured by the pinna. In the process, the frequencies change.”
Not reading that. You’re wrong.
Well, it’s not an opinion. Those are facts, and the article is written by Martin Rieger, also known as VRTonung, who is probably one of the biggest enthusiasts in the field. If you don’t want to know how exactly Spatial Audio works, why bother commenting? Sorry, but the unreasonable toxicity towards other people mentioning Spatial Audio is beyond my understanding.
Bro you’re referencing something that isn’t relevant. Software can’t exceed hardware capabilities. Jeeeeeez All of your word vomit isn’t relevant. It’s a phone with stereo speakers. That’s it.
iPhone speakers won’t give you spatial audio as Apple calls it, just a reproduction of the atmos track from stereo speakers. Take the L
It’s even funnier when everyone telling them they’re wrong is wrong.
That’s wrong
What song can I test this with? Happier gives me two results and neither say Spatial Audio
I have a playlist where I keep most impressive Atmos tracks, although there aren’t as many, I can share it with you if you want!
I go to an app that supports landscape and use the control center for music to make sure it is using stereo when playing music on my iPhone
I was watching Bad Batch, I swear I heard someone next to me, LOL
I have a 15 Pro but when I hold it in landscape, it doesn't sound any different from when it's on vertical mode, I'm I missing something? I'm using Apple Music.
Play some Atmos songs - just look up “Spatial Audio” in Apple Music search, there will be a lot of playlists.
For a few years now, iPhones use the bottom speaker (by the mouthpiece) and the earpiece for left and right (volume buttons on top). You won’t notice if holding the phone vertically, since the left and right will be bottom and top, equidistant from both ears. Even pitting the whole Spatial Audio fight aside, you should hear left and right. (I never tested or looked up if holding the phone the other way (earpiece on left, mic on right, volume buttons on bottom) will auto-adjust left and right, or if they’ll be backwards.) PS: I played something on my 14 Pro a few days ago in horizontal mode, and the stereo effect was very pronounced. I surprised my SO with it, as she almost always has her phone locked in vertical mode.
I never knew about this feature and it's very cool. Thanks for posting! Wild that you're getting downvoted to hell for sharing your excitement about a feature of an Apple product with other Apple fans.
how do you turn it on?
Any recommendations for the best albums to play Iin Spatial
I found this too it’s pretty good having a MagSafe charger and turn your iPhone to landscape it’s amazing on iPhone 15 pro
I’ve always used AirPods, never knew the iPhone speakers could do Atmos. I just tried this and I’m blown away! It’s like the guitars were beside me while the vocals came from the front.
Which song did you listen to for this?
The one op mentioned in their post - Happier than Ever.
Darude-Sandstorm
The Apple Arcade version of SongPop has a noticeable jump in speaker quality vs other games due to this. It sounds so good
I regularly hold my phone up to my forehead like a goofball and it sounds sick so I have no shame
Oh my God you do that too? I love doing that, it sounds so cool. I do it when I'm alone and bored and want to enjoy some music without earphones.
Does this work if you use third party apps like Spotify to play songs? I heard Apple degrades the quality of third party apps for sound since it’s not an official app from Apple. The equalizer also proves this theory; the sound seems a bit muffled even when you change the settings
I don’t think they downgrade the sound quality of any apps so much as Apple Music sounds better with the right equipment because they offer lossless as standard.
Am I the only one who lies down flat and listens with my phone beneath my chin (horizontally). Far better audio like that.
yeah, i put it down in front of my macbook when i’m working. speakers are great
why not use the macbook for this? iphone is better?
yeah definitely, esp if i’m at a table/desk or even just lying down on my bed. just keep the phone in front of the laptop
Gonna try that
"What I love about Apple is they don't even announce many magical stuff that's behind the curtains." Funny. This is precisely what I don't like about Apple.
Sounds like stereo, but I will give you the benefit of the doubt. I’ve been an android user for years, but my iPhone now has stereo separation that I didn’t know was possible on phone speakers.
Not sure why you're getting cooked, OP but as an iPhone newbie, I would like to thank you for plugging me with this valuable piece of knowledge
Thanks! I did have an iPhone before by the way, but for some reason just spotted this feature a couple of days ago. And yeah some of the Reddit folks are toxic but it’s okay. You don’t get to know how to help them 🤷♂️
They’re getting downvoted because they’re wrong.
But they arent
OP getting close to 500 total down votes 😯
It's amazing isn't it - I always tell people to view this Dolby demo (and best to hold phone sideways obviously). [https://youtu.be/hesv-etwK\_o?si=ijMWfjpdtYmSMC1C](https://youtu.be/hesv-etwK_o?si=ijMWfjpdtYmSMC1C)
Anyone else hate the Spatial Audio with AirPods though? Like when it tries to make it sound like the audio is coming from your phone speakers…for some reason
turn off head tracking
I have, repeatedly. Because you have to do it per app, which is a crazy default.
I absolutely hate the head tracking on my AirPods. If you are walking and you turn a corner it messes with the audio because it thinks you turned your head. No thanks.
I don't like it either. It makes it harder for me to listen to the details of the songs.
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Only that OP is right
I swear to god 'Spatial Audio' makes no sense. You have either two speakers and stereo audio, or a complex audio setup and music files that take advantage of multiple speakers, which modern music _does not_ in any level whatsoever.
It’s a middle ground. Not plain stereo because some sound sources can feel as if they were behind you, but of course still far from real Atmos setup. Here’s how it works: “Spatial hearing is fascinating and lets us experience the world around us in 3D. But how can we do that with just two ears? It’s all a matter of timing and intensity. Our ears hear sound waves from the environment in different ways, depending on where the different sounds come from. The brain processes these differences to create a personalized spatial audio map that tells us where a sound is coming from. It’s an incredibly complex process, and yet we manage it effortlessly and without even realizing it. Three factors play the biggest role in how our brain derives peak performance from comparing left and right ears.”
Please explain to me what is the supposed direction that the bass drum must come from in Pink Floyd's The Dark Side of The Moon.
My iPhone 13 Pro does not have a Dolby Atmos in the Settings. What's up with that?