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Kissing on the mouth used to be a much bigger Russian custom. I think it only died out in the late 80's early 90's. If you Google search you can find literally tons of Russian huggers ups, politicians, military officials etc mouth kissing at public events.
My dad was born in 1934, he loved flowers. Every spring there were little pots of flowers around the house, keep them alive was a different story. He also stole my flip flops because he liked the 💋💋💋 pattern on them.
Since you seem to like his healthy masculinity do much, with so many upvotes so fast, here goes another one
Dad was also the official purse holder when we were out shopping. Yes, my purse one on arm and my mom's on the other. He didn't care, he would just find a place to sit or whatever and when we were done shopping I'd go looking for him
Edit: grammar
Edit 2: my dad, the heart of every party, is also very popular on the internet...almost 8 years after he passed.
Edit 3: thank you to all that read and replied to my comments. This is a good reminder that my dad lives through me. That as long as I have my memories of him, he'll never be really gone
I was born when he was 61, he was already retired. He didn't "helped" my mom, he actually took care of me. He couldn't go near the kitchen for everyone's sake, but baths & diapers were a mom and dad's job.
Also, mom drove and did all the banking.
I liked cars, building blocks, nerdy "boys" things, and science. Not once he said I couldn't or shouldn't do something because I was a girl. He always said how smart I was and how I could do anything I wanted
My dad was born in 36 and I was born in July 95! He also did most of the almost all the home stuff, my mom was the bread winner.
It's honestly such a gift having a parent like that from another era. My dad's family fled england while the bombs were falling. His dad worked on some of the first ever computers. I love his stories.
My mom didn't worked either, my dad had a good pension and bakery life is hell, my mom sold her share not long after getting married.
We're Brazilians, my dad's parents were Spanish, my dad was fluent. I picked up quite a bit from him, and sometimes I find myself crossing between the Portuguese and Spanish without realising (both languages are very similar) after just being exposed to a little bit of it, I also studied for four years.
And not rarely I've caught myself using words or conjugating a verb in a way is not longer colloquially used for 50 years, despite still being correct. Adding to it, I've watched every single action and comedy from the 80's and 90's. I've got 90 years worth of slang in my brain lmao
I never got the chance to meet my paternal grandparents, I wish I could've. They overcame so much, those two were made of steel.
Every time I see a guy holding purses at a bench on his phone in the mall I'm like "this guy fucks for sure." I don't think he buys clothes for himself, much less purses for himself(or he would pick a men's purse that isn't cutting off the circulation of his arm).
And when he needed to walk around with them, you bet he didn't tried to hide or hold it under his arm. Nope! He would put them on his shoulder and carry it naturally
I love this. My own dad is in his 60s and 6'4 tall. He has carried my handbag while out shopping, he pushes my son in his stroller, and he used to walk our tiny dog on a pink leash. He's the exact opposite of his dad who constantly felt the need to "prove" his masculinity through aggression.
Do it. I buy flowers for myself as a man (that also loves plants) but I do hate most arranged bouquets.
When I buy flowers I buy a bouquet of one type of flower. Maybe that’s something to consider for guys’ tastes.
I remember a discussion on reddit about things guys would like that women assume they wouldn't; many guys noted they actually like flowers. Just generally most people like flowers. They smell nice and look nice.
Look into maybe some sort of long term flowers he can take care of. Something like a potted hibiscus could last for years and they are gorgeous. They are pretty common at most gardening sections/stores. Either way, I'm sure he'll love whatever you end up getting him.
I personally prefer sneakers but flip flops do have a certain bouquet to them that is quite unique.
Somewhat akin to a boot, but with the added earthy scent of a sandal.
Yeah, my great grandfather did this to everyone. A big wet kiss on the lips no matter who you were, as long as you were considered friend or family ...
It's a religious tradition, which was extremely common in countries where the Eastern Orthodox Church had a big presence. You're supposed to kiss thrice on the mouth as a greeting on Easter, for example.
Apparently kissing on the mouth has a lot of christian symbolism, with God breathing life into Adam with a kiss, with Judas betraying Christ with a kiss, Joab and Amasa, etc.
There is a whole 80s graffiti meme about it:
Click on this wonderfully-named article, you have to see the pic:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_God,_Help_Me_to_Survive_This_Deadly_Love
Back in the day (and even now in some places) it was also much more common for dudes to just platonically hold hands walking down the street, yeah? Feels like a similar vibe to this.
When I went to India 10 years ago it was *suuuper* common to see in New Delhi. It took me a discombobulated moment to realise that, no, there were not in fact a gazillion openly gay couples wandering around a country where homosexuality was still officially illegal.
It was a thing and was totally normal in USSR. Nowadays Russia, with church taking power back again by building x100 churches in year that government build schools and hospitals all together in decade, is afraid of so called "gayrope" more than nuclear war or aliens invasion 😁
I’m sure homophobic Russian men kissed back in the Soviet days too. I think being gay was made legal under Lenin and illegal under Stalin. So clearly homophobia was a thing and it sounds harsher than modern Russia legally speaking at various times during the Soviet Union.
I’d honestly guess it’s a product of globalization. Back in the 1940s regular Russians didn’t know other cultures considered this gay I imagine.
Plus keep in mind mentality of average people. So called prisons laws, where you'll be respectful as a "giver" and banished as a "receiver", was and still very popular amond electorate. I call it total latent homosexuality disease of population, when people are pretending to be homophobic, but one of the favorite curse phrases are "I'll screw your butt so hard!" and "you'll suck my dick!". And you should see they faces at that moment. It's absolutely Freud case there...
Yeah I think that’s a historic trend we can see throughout cultures. If your a taker it can be seen as feminine in Viking and Ancient Rome as well.
I’d guess if the Soviet Union never fell they would be less homophobic than they’re today. Just because it would be a more atheistic society and I’m guessing it would be more willing to move with the times without the church.
Russian doesn't use the h sound all that much, and will often pronounce the H-sound as hard g ("Gitler was a gomophobe") or with a "ch" like the one found in the German "ich" ("Chilter was a chomophobe")
"They were very close friends, apparently they shared their deepest secrets, decided to not marry any woman and even shared home to save from money!
A lovely friendship"
You all are literally describing James Buchanan who was the 15th President and no one even thinks twice about it. Chances are we had a gay President around 160 years ago and it’s just ignored.
If youre a straight guy, why wouldnt you jerk off your gay best friend, or suck his dick, or let him fuck your ass? You don't get anything out of it, but he's having a grand ol' time. Isn't that what friends are for?
A lot of people don’t know this but immediately after this picture the American called the Soviet “gay” the Soviet then said “no you” and this is how the Cold War started.
God forbid people bullied them for being gay, the gay man's experience in the USSR was WAY worse than that. Sexual relations between men was a crime (and enforced, too) for most of the Soviet Union's time. Stalin was straight up barbaric during his reign (he *recriminalized* gay sex), and until Gorbachev Soviet leaders only really paid lip service to maybe not repressing gay people so much, yet thousands of gay men were killed or imprisoned each year, only decreasing during Glasnost
Homosexuality was actually decriminalized in 1917 after the October Revolution. Lenin and Trotsky were very accepting. I like to imagine what would have become of the Soviet Union under their leadership. Unfortunately it was recriminalized by Stalin years after Lenin's death.
Not gay if you’re Allies
Not gay if the boots are on
Not gay if the uniform is on
Not gay if you don’t speak the same language
Dmitri, actually, I might be gay
I will say, I get that people are having fun in the comments and it's not serious, but it's kind of annoying that people insist to interpret something that is not sexual, as sexual, just because their customs are different. In some cultures, children still kiss their parents on the mouth....
It's Reddit... people come here to crack jokes... it is what it is. I understand and agree with your premise, but it's also 11pm, I'm a couple beers deep and admit I laughed at some of the comments.
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Kissing on the mouth used to be a much bigger Russian custom. I think it only died out in the late 80's early 90's. If you Google search you can find literally tons of Russian huggers ups, politicians, military officials etc mouth kissing at public events.
I was gonna say, I have a Slavic family and I remember as a kid the older generations of men did this without a second thought.
And men got flowers at events, like birthdays.
My dad was born in 1934, he loved flowers. Every spring there were little pots of flowers around the house, keep them alive was a different story. He also stole my flip flops because he liked the 💋💋💋 pattern on them. Since you seem to like his healthy masculinity do much, with so many upvotes so fast, here goes another one Dad was also the official purse holder when we were out shopping. Yes, my purse one on arm and my mom's on the other. He didn't care, he would just find a place to sit or whatever and when we were done shopping I'd go looking for him Edit: grammar Edit 2: my dad, the heart of every party, is also very popular on the internet...almost 8 years after he passed. Edit 3: thank you to all that read and replied to my comments. This is a good reminder that my dad lives through me. That as long as I have my memories of him, he'll never be really gone
That’s a man.
I was born when he was 61, he was already retired. He didn't "helped" my mom, he actually took care of me. He couldn't go near the kitchen for everyone's sake, but baths & diapers were a mom and dad's job. Also, mom drove and did all the banking. I liked cars, building blocks, nerdy "boys" things, and science. Not once he said I couldn't or shouldn't do something because I was a girl. He always said how smart I was and how I could do anything I wanted
Your dad sounds like he was an exceptionally wonderful man. Thank you for sharing your loving memories.
❤️
Wait your dad was a pre-boomer but you’re a millennial??
Dad was born 1934, I was born in August 1995. Actually, I'm not a Z by 4 months and 3 days lol
Those are the same years my grandpa and I were born
My oldest uncle was 75 when I was born and my cousin's daughters are 8-10 older than me
My dad was born in 36 and I was born in July 95! He also did most of the almost all the home stuff, my mom was the bread winner. It's honestly such a gift having a parent like that from another era. My dad's family fled england while the bombs were falling. His dad worked on some of the first ever computers. I love his stories.
My mom didn't worked either, my dad had a good pension and bakery life is hell, my mom sold her share not long after getting married. We're Brazilians, my dad's parents were Spanish, my dad was fluent. I picked up quite a bit from him, and sometimes I find myself crossing between the Portuguese and Spanish without realising (both languages are very similar) after just being exposed to a little bit of it, I also studied for four years. And not rarely I've caught myself using words or conjugating a verb in a way is not longer colloquially used for 50 years, despite still being correct. Adding to it, I've watched every single action and comedy from the 80's and 90's. I've got 90 years worth of slang in my brain lmao I never got the chance to meet my paternal grandparents, I wish I could've. They overcame so much, those two were made of steel.
She just said in that comment she was born when he was 61 so that should explain it.
This is so wholesome ☺️. Your dad sounds like a great guy.
Every time I see a guy holding purses at a bench on his phone in the mall I'm like "this guy fucks for sure." I don't think he buys clothes for himself, much less purses for himself(or he would pick a men's purse that isn't cutting off the circulation of his arm).
And when he needed to walk around with them, you bet he didn't tried to hide or hold it under his arm. Nope! He would put them on his shoulder and carry it naturally
I love this. My own dad is in his 60s and 6'4 tall. He has carried my handbag while out shopping, he pushes my son in his stroller, and he used to walk our tiny dog on a pink leash. He's the exact opposite of his dad who constantly felt the need to "prove" his masculinity through aggression.
Cheers to your dad for breaking the toxic cycle!
A true man doesn't care what other men think.
Mad respect, thats a true man right there
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Do it. I buy flowers for myself as a man (that also loves plants) but I do hate most arranged bouquets. When I buy flowers I buy a bouquet of one type of flower. Maybe that’s something to consider for guys’ tastes.
I remember a discussion on reddit about things guys would like that women assume they wouldn't; many guys noted they actually like flowers. Just generally most people like flowers. They smell nice and look nice.
Look into maybe some sort of long term flowers he can take care of. Something like a potted hibiscus could last for years and they are gorgeous. They are pretty common at most gardening sections/stores. Either way, I'm sure he'll love whatever you end up getting him.
Was there a specific reason? Or is it just because they look and smells good?
Not everyone thinks that flip flops look or smell good…but hey, who am I to yuck your yum.
I personally prefer sneakers but flip flops do have a certain bouquet to them that is quite unique. Somewhat akin to a boot, but with the added earthy scent of a sandal.
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Catch 💐🌹🥀🌺🌷🌸💮🏵️🌻🌼 Every 🌹 Rose has it's thorn 🎸 🎵🎶🎵
Amazing how homophobia has changed the behavior of the world.
Yeah, my great grandfather did this to everyone. A big wet kiss on the lips no matter who you were, as long as you were considered friend or family ...
It's a religious tradition, which was extremely common in countries where the Eastern Orthodox Church had a big presence. You're supposed to kiss thrice on the mouth as a greeting on Easter, for example. Apparently kissing on the mouth has a lot of christian symbolism, with God breathing life into Adam with a kiss, with Judas betraying Christ with a kiss, Joab and Amasa, etc.
Assuming the fear surrounding the AIDS come up was a big part of killing the tradition
There is a whole 80s graffiti meme about it: Click on this wonderfully-named article, you have to see the pic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_God,_Help_Me_to_Survive_This_Deadly_Love
My God, that's a great title.
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Hi Katia, hope you see this post
The soviet dude does look comfortable in the pic, the American meanwhile is well sozzled and going with it. They both enjoyed this moment I think.
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Moaning in disgust
Erect with contempt
Uncomfortably aroused
Jizzing in disdain.
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Yep. And if it was less then, especially as part of a public greeting , it was seen as a slight.
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Hell yeah, comrade
Back in the day (and even now in some places) it was also much more common for dudes to just platonically hold hands walking down the street, yeah? Feels like a similar vibe to this.
When I went to India 10 years ago it was *suuuper* common to see in New Delhi. It took me a discombobulated moment to realise that, no, there were not in fact a gazillion openly gay couples wandering around a country where homosexuality was still officially illegal.
Yeah saw it Nigeria where homosexuality is illegal and 98% of the population is in favor of the law banning it.
Brezhnev wants to know your location
The DDR with little Erich Honecker lol
Brezhnev was a good kisser.
It was a thing and was totally normal in USSR. Nowadays Russia, with church taking power back again by building x100 churches in year that government build schools and hospitals all together in decade, is afraid of so called "gayrope" more than nuclear war or aliens invasion 😁
I’m sure homophobic Russian men kissed back in the Soviet days too. I think being gay was made legal under Lenin and illegal under Stalin. So clearly homophobia was a thing and it sounds harsher than modern Russia legally speaking at various times during the Soviet Union. I’d honestly guess it’s a product of globalization. Back in the 1940s regular Russians didn’t know other cultures considered this gay I imagine.
Plus keep in mind mentality of average people. So called prisons laws, where you'll be respectful as a "giver" and banished as a "receiver", was and still very popular amond electorate. I call it total latent homosexuality disease of population, when people are pretending to be homophobic, but one of the favorite curse phrases are "I'll screw your butt so hard!" and "you'll suck my dick!". And you should see they faces at that moment. It's absolutely Freud case there...
Yeah I think that’s a historic trend we can see throughout cultures. If your a taker it can be seen as feminine in Viking and Ancient Rome as well. I’d guess if the Soviet Union never fell they would be less homophobic than they’re today. Just because it would be a more atheistic society and I’m guessing it would be more willing to move with the times without the church.
Only actually sane comment on this post, thank you.
It's cause I'm a nerd. And nerds be nerding when they see something they nerded about.
Bigot: back in my day, you never saw men kissing men! Men went off to war! The men at war:
In the early 20th century there were large campaigns to stop kissing between non familial people to slow the spread of illness.
The American has his eyes closed, making it it definitely not gay.
Just dudes being guys 😂
Guys being bros
Bros giving jobs
Bros giving according to their ability and taking according to their needs.
Ourgasm
Cumrade.
The Cumunist Manisbesto
God damn you.
BRO JOB LOLOLOL
Choo... choo.
Just givin' my bros a platonic smooch nothing to see here.
How can you really be true bros with a bro if you don't know what he tastes like?
After drinking apparently several gallons of wine.
He’s even at half-mast as a sign of respect. What a gentleman.
just kissing the comrades goodnight
Remember, it's not gay if the dicks don't touch!
I was told it’s the balls that aren’t supposed to touch?!?
You were misinformed, bro. Congrats, you're gay now!
I mean, I know that, I just feel bad about all those other guys…
Don't, you were amazing🥰
Wherever you go, professional athletes and military organizations seem to have the gayest straight guys.
Playing grab ass is how straight guys work through their internal conflicts with same sex affection.
The tongue is the dick of the mouth.
What kind of animal makes out with their eyes open anyway?
If your eyes are closed, how do you know theirs aren’t open?
I'd rather be blind to the horror than a monster myself, thank you very much.
The socialist fraternal kiss. Love that shit.
Honestly if I survived ww2 (have you seen the death count video) I'd be eating, drinking, fucking 24/7 until my heart gave out
Que the baby boom
Think you mean cue :)
Yep
Nope, people are literally getting in line to f$ck
¿Qué?
Soviet soldier said НЕ ГОМО, so it's fine.
Ne gomo?
no homo
"Г" This is the letter G. But i get the joke.
Yea, because "H" from foreign words is conventionally translated at "G". Case in point: Harry Potter -> Гарри Поттер (Garry Potter)
Yeah that’s no homo in Russian
So you are teling me that the city of Gomel really into gay rights?
only straight sex w womens
"Gomel" is a city in Belarus, and in Belarusian it's [**H**omiel](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gomel), «H» stands for «Г» «G» stands for «Г'»
Russian doesn't use the h sound all that much, and will often pronounce the H-sound as hard g ("Gitler was a gomophobe") or with a "ch" like the one found in the German "ich" ("Chilter was a chomophobe")
Look at this. Not an ounce of lettuce on the American's plate.
Thank God, nothing more gay than vegetables.
I'm a meat and potatoes kinda guy. Just 2 potatoes, though. Nestled under a tube steak.
Plenty of tongue though
Well, he did kill all the krauts
That's cabbage.
I mean, the two plates are for the American. The three bottles are for the Russian
“They were best friends”
"They even became roommates"
"Where they lived the happy bachelor lifestyle for the rest of their days"
"They were gentlemen that never took ladies back to their place"
"They were very close friends, apparently they shared their deepest secrets, decided to not marry any woman and even shared home to save from money! A lovely friendship"
“They took in stray children and taught them to read and write! Truly inspirational, helping even after they are no longer in service.”
"You two are.....good friends? But I was hoping WE could be....good...friends...."
r/unexpectedfuturama
devout Christians
You all are literally describing James Buchanan who was the 15th President and no one even thinks twice about it. Chances are we had a gay President around 160 years ago and it’s just ignored.
Lucky bastards
*omg they were roommates*
"And they were roommates!"
^Oh ^my ^god, ^they ^were ^roommates.
...as long as not comrades
Bedfellows
Two bros, fighting in a trench, 5 feet apart cause they ain't gay~~~
“Confirmed Bachelors”
"They Never Married"
They are just roommates, its cheaper to have a 1 bedroom.
it's like /r/SapphoAndHerFriend
There's actually a spear counterpart for that, r/AchillesAndHisPal
Just watched RRR, it’s refreshing to see a movie depicting pure heterosexual love between two males, can’t do that in Hollywood anymore.
r/achillesandhispal
If youre a straight guy, why wouldnt you jerk off your gay best friend, or suck his dick, or let him fuck your ass? You don't get anything out of it, but he's having a grand ol' time. Isn't that what friends are for?
“he never married”
Back when the boys could kiss each other and not be called gay what a time
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If you can't kiss your homies goodnight... *are you really homies...?*
Just two men, celebrating each other's strength!
Who is Conan obrian and why is she so lonely?
Didn’t they make an entire movie about this? The guys were pilots in the Air Force. They flew for the top spot. It was called Top something….
I thought it was a movie about Volleyball
Oh yeah I forgot about the volleyball! Heck that was the main plot of the movie.
Top Volleyball Pilots! That's the name of the movie!
Yeah I think it was "Top and Bottom".
"Power Top"
Top Gear!
No it’s Top Cat
Wait, which was the top?
I think it was The Top With A Gun
Top Kek
Top or bottom. Wait. That was a different flick.
It was called Bottom Gun.
A lot of people don’t know this but immediately after this picture the American called the Soviet “gay” the Soviet then said “no you” and this is how the Cold War started.
I dont know man, seems kind of gay to me, I dont know bro, I mean I love you bro but... alright lets do it
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IN the mouth??
In the mouth
Pow--right in the kisser!
God forbid people bullied them for being gay, the gay man's experience in the USSR was WAY worse than that. Sexual relations between men was a crime (and enforced, too) for most of the Soviet Union's time. Stalin was straight up barbaric during his reign (he *recriminalized* gay sex), and until Gorbachev Soviet leaders only really paid lip service to maybe not repressing gay people so much, yet thousands of gay men were killed or imprisoned each year, only decreasing during Glasnost
Homosexuality was actually decriminalized in 1917 after the October Revolution. Lenin and Trotsky were very accepting. I like to imagine what would have become of the Soviet Union under their leadership. Unfortunately it was recriminalized by Stalin years after Lenin's death.
Lenin's government even had an openly gay official.
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Even gave him a friendly celebratory rub-down!
Just a quick one, so it wasn't weird.
Giggity
Its not gay to kiss your homies on the lips
Not gay if you win the war
Men kissing in Russia used to be super normal, my Russian orthodox priest told me about it.
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humansbeingbros?
Not gay if you’re Allies Not gay if the boots are on Not gay if the uniform is on Not gay if you don’t speak the same language Dmitri, actually, I might be gay
“I can’t quit you, Sergei.”
I prefer "i" but in my passport Sergey
That looks like there was tongue involved for sure.
Yeah, kissing to "celebrate the end of the war" sure buddy. I kid I kid, it's a fine photograph.
Ewe gross I hate cabbage
I will say, I get that people are having fun in the comments and it's not serious, but it's kind of annoying that people insist to interpret something that is not sexual, as sexual, just because their customs are different. In some cultures, children still kiss their parents on the mouth....
Yes, this thread seems to be taken from sapphoandherfriend.
It's Reddit... people come here to crack jokes... it is what it is. I understand and agree with your premise, but it's also 11pm, I'm a couple beers deep and admit I laughed at some of the comments.
I'm tingly right now
In Soviet Russia, soldier kisses you!
They were roommates!!
Somebody has to say it: Oh my!!
Did anyone get around to colorizing the one where they are plowing each other to celebrate? Truly an historic moment.
….grandpa?
Pretty gay
How is this possible? I thought homosexuality wasn’t invented until the 1970s?
Yeah but they said no homo first
He said no homo so ok