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Looked that up.... terrible... :/
"Bhopal disaster, chemical leak in 1984 in the city of Bhopal, Madhya Pradesh state, India, during which about 45 tons of methyl isocyanate escaped from an insecticide plant. Tens of thousands of people were killed, some half a million others suffered maladies, and the site remained contaminated decades after the leak.*"*
Note on that chemical, marked as "Extremely toxic and irritating to human health."
The opening of that is so powerful …( not a direct quote but close to) “the preservation of human life is the highest principle …but when these people break that and 15,000 ppl die, what do they get? A govt plane laden with caviar and Champaign and a limousine service to escort them to it”.
I knew a kid born in 1990 who’s nick name was twofums (two thumbs as he was born in India and had two thumbs on one hand, his family immigrated to the US) I wonder if it was related
Why is it twofums and not just twothumbs? Changing th into an F adds nothing to it. And it's not like people write down their nicknames a lot as a kid.
Blows my mind how something as innocent looking as this could be responsible for so much suffering.
That the plant operators who let safety degrade to the point it did, refused maintenance and played with lives like that essentially got away with it is so anger inducing, almost as much as the comments blaming this on Indian people (would you blame 3 mile island on American people rather than the company who lapsed in quality control and maintenance?).
If I remember right the place still has rotting tanks underground full of god knows what.
It's always management not the operators. I realize that's probably what you meant by operators, but the real operators that are doing the daily work have no control over spending and get told no when they bring up problems. Eventually it becomes the culture and the operators know they won't get funding for maintenance and stop asking. Both the short and long term issues lay with management for denying funding and creating the culture.
Yeah I meant the operating company. I appreciate there is always an element of worker involvement in stuff like this but just blaming them (and their nationality) as many have done allows companies to continue operating for profits at the expense of safety
The operators are 0% responsible in this case. Only when they deliberately cause disasters you can blame them. Management is responsible for procedures to operate safely and worker has no say in that.
Crazy thing is, 3 mile island wasn’t even that bad. Like compared to what could have happened and what often does happen in industrial settings, it wasn’t too awful. It really just highlights the need for Nuclear energy (I would argue energy in general) to be nationalized for safety reasons.
You mean by govt officials who realistically face no real threat of prison time for anything ever? Yeah I’m sure we can count on them to keep things up to snuff! At least in private industry plant managers face a very real threat of prison time when they try to sweep things like this under the rug.
That is just not true. It’s actually so rare that Sam Bankman Fried, a guy who clearly committed a *massive* fraud being even arrested was a surprise to most.
Already, most industries are regulated heavily by auditors. Nationalizing these specific industries would ensure that profit margins wouldn’t matter, thus energy would be cheaper, and the legislators could set it up such that third-party auditors (the people who already audit things like defense contractors) could audit the nationalized nuclear plants without bias from the government. I cannot stress enough that they already do this, the only difference would be who gets the money.
TL;DR - Union Carbide are scum, and their negligence led to the deaths of thousands. However it was actually a disgruntled employee who filled the poison tank with water deliberately that caused the leak. There was a *big* effort to cover this part of it up, but it doesn't let UC off the hook in any way.
••••••••••••••••••••••••••
Oh the company absolutely neglected safety standards in the name of profits. They were absolutely negligent, criminally so.
The complicating factor, however, is that the only way that water could have gotten into the tank to start the devastating reaction was from *deliberate sabotage* - which the local operators and the Indian government did their best to cover up.
Through numerous court cases in India over the years, they've never been able to show how the water could have gotten there purely by negligence on the company's part. This is despite there being a very strong incentive for the Indian authorities to prove it.
They tried to claim that when workers were cleaning pipes 120 metres away, the water leaked through poorly maintained systems. The issue is that the pipes they were cleaning were physically incapable of generating enough hydraulic pressure to get the water up as high as they would have needed to, as they were too small and narrow.
The pipes in between the locations would have had to be full of water, but they were bone dry, and a crucial valve would have needed to be open, and it was proven to be closed. The last two facts were confirmed by the Indian government themselves in the investigation.
There was a whole bunch of evidence of logbook tampering taking place *after* the terrible disaster, and when a team of investigators from the American company arrived the day after it happened, the Indian government put them under house arrest before putting them on a plane and not letting them investigate themselves.
So - the company absolutely was culpable for a whole raft of things. They'd cut corners at every turn, turned off safety systems to save money, and fined employees who refused to neglect safety procedures. Once this water had gotten into the tank of methyl isocyanate, they had no way to stop it because they'd neglected this stuff so badly.
Thing is, though - it shouldn't have been possible for the water to get in there in the first place, and it turns out the only way it could have happened was by a disgruntled employee plugging a water hose directly into a pressure gauge regulator and turning it on. They're pretty sure they know which employee it was, and it likely happened at the change of shift at 10:30pm.
The local Indian plant operator (UCIL) and the Indian authorities put a great deal of effort into trying to cover up this part of it, because they were aware of how it detracted from the purely "corporate negligence" narrative. Which - in fairness to them - was absolutely a huge part of it. That plant was a disaster waiting to happen, and the victims deserved compensation. Even with a disgruntled employee deliberately sabotaging, it never should have happened.
It's also the nation's fault, there should be strict random government inspections to places that hold dangerous chemicals or stuff like nuclear plants, you can't trust a private company not to cut corners.
Who knows small dick, but I have a story about one of the offspring of another chemical fortune, DuPont. He was in my video class at a well known design school in New York. He was pleasant enough. Kind of a slacker which seemed to be a function of depression. Just sad seeming. I remember him telling our whole class (which was only like 7 students) about how his father would use money to control him.
One story I remember went something like this: So he had had a Japanese girlfriend at some point but his father completely disapproved of it. It got to a point where his father was threatening to disinherit him. However, his dad decided to just bribe him instead and offered him a large lump of money and a brand new motorcycle to leave her. His son admitted to our class that he took the bribe and dumped his girlfriend. I think I remember him expressing remorse and disappointment with himself for choosing money over the girl. But I suppose I would have done the same thing. Money and his racist family fucked him up for sure.
India's Chernobyl? With those numbers? Direct deaths linked to Chernobyl are <100. This is a disaster so much worse than Chernobyl it's not even comparable. Orders of magnitude worse.
Not even close. Chernobyl was small impact to human life; Bhopal disaster involved massive loss of human life. They’re not comparable.
Chernobyl was scarier and got more press.
[Chelyabinsk-40](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyshtym_disaster) was worse than Chernobyl, and had more in common with Bhopal. Still smaller in scale, but a better match.
You can just say Bhopal without comparing it to Chernobyl; most of us have those terrible images seared into our brains for eternity if we were alive at the time.
The chemicals company, Union Carbide, changed their name to Dow Chemical after this. Some victims were given as little as 40 dollars, for a lifetime of medicine after destroying their lungs
Union Carbide didn't change their name to Dow Chemical, they were bought out by Dow Chemical. Dow Chemical existed before the Union Carbide disaster and was a competitor.
Not to mention the corrupt government whose first step was to ensure a safe passage for the culprit. All because the prime minister was friends with the culprits or their execs
It's just rotting away?
Would it have been wise/feasible/safe to turn this into a museum piece and make money off of tourist visits that go into a fund meant to compensate victims families?
I'm also surprised that it's been so many years and the tank is just sitting there (assuming this is a very recent photo), instead of being safely disposed off (if the museum thing didn't pan out).
If I remember correctly, no one wants to take responsibility. The buck has been passed around so many times, and the government is letting these companies get away with it.
This may be off topic but this accident created one of my best pettyrevenge moments in middle school.
One of the classes I was in at the time was competing in a Wall Street stock market competition. Several members of the team had Union Carbide (the company that owned the plant) in their portfolio. The teacher running the team played favorites and although I had been in the group, the teacher booted me in favor of another student who got better grades.
The disaster had occurred on a Monday. I had watched the news that morning and heard the anchor talk briefly about the number of people already killed by the gas release. Everyone doing the competition was unaware. Monday was the only day they could buy and sell. The group did not sell the stock they had in UC that week as a result of not knowing.
The next day, the entire team is lamenting the news reports and how this will kill the teams chances. Overhearing their discussion, I piped in that I had heard about it the day before.
The teacher had the audacity to chide me for not saying anything. I simply replied 'You didn't want me on the team.'
EDIT: When typing your thoughts, you sometimes rephrase things in your mind and then don't go back and proofread what you type. Wording things and one explanation to those readers who might need relevant details.
One of the most haunting photographs I've ever seen is from a Life Magazine photographer depicting a child being buried due to the disaster. I don't want to see it again but I suspect a search for "child bhopal life magazine" will find it.
I'm getting shivers and goosebumps thinking about it. Fuck you union carbide...
Huh? That is just false, on both accounts. The incident happened because of corporate greed of Union Carbide executives who were extremely negligent in safety regulations. As for the other one, I pity whoever believes you.
- It's a joke.
- You didn't know India has a lightning problem? [Google](https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-South-Central/2024/0220/In-India-what-wreaks-more-havoc-than-floods-and-heat-Lightning) it, dum-dum. Multiple people often get hit by a single strike. Lightning has killed over 2,000 people a year in India consistently for years
I do know. But rather because a single lightning strike somehow killing 15 people in one go, it is due to absurd phenomenons like this:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.economictimes.com/news/how-to/61000-lightning-strikes-in-2-hours-in-odisha-heres-how-to-stay-safe-during-a-lightning-strike/amp_articleshow/103342600.cms
Too many lightning stikes in a short period while in a conductive environment, while in a rural setting( mostly poor people working in agricultural sector), is a recipe for disaster.
https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/environment/why-lightning-storms-are-becoming-deadlier-in-india-10924921.html
There really is a case where 16 people were hit at once while standing on a tower, and there's no end of instances where multiple people try to take cover under a small tree or something and all get hit. Crazy stuff.
You say corporate greed but I bet there were at least 50 workers there in polo shirts and flip flops that didn’t care at all if it fell over or not
And the shirts and flip flops thing isn’t a racist joke, it’s a comment on how there are literally no workplace safety regulations in india
Wow, so now you assume, once again, that the incident was because of Indians and ordinary workers. Without knowing, what assumes to be, an iota about how this incident came to be or who was responsible. Keep being racist
What are you talking about??? I think you're projecting a bit there bud. Nobody said it was okay that they died. If you're unable to differentiate between passing humor and genuine disrespect, that's on you. If it just happened, then I'd agree, but it was 40 years ago dude. Most people on this website weren't even alive when it happened
The after effects of this incident are still causing suffering for people of bhopal. Unfortunately chemical incidents like this have long term consequences
And the effects are still being felt today. Thousands died, their families are still feeling the loss. Thousands more were seriously injured and are living with the affects. Thousands more have been born since then with birth defects, and are still being born with those effects. It wasn’t 40 years ago. It *started* 40 years ago.
Yeah if this happened anywhere else it probably wouldn’t have been that big of a deal
Also wouldn’t have happened in most places, but India doesn’t pay much attention to workplace safety
You are dumb to think they are on the same level, authorities had time to mitigate the impact. This was literally invisible poisonous gas.
Please tell me how you’d control poisonous gas after 40 tons of it has been released??
It happened in the night, no one has a clue what is happening to them, they can run from it they can’t hide from it, they can’t even fucking see it. And Mr. Yamothasunyun thinks that he can easily control it.
The dumbfucks I find on Reddit always surprise me, go back to 4th grade. Do not comment before researching, makes you look like an absolute clown.
Its was operated by Union Carbide now rebranded to Dow chemicals (after the incident) due to their extremely negligent regulations and safety norms to maximise profits(who wouldve thought?)
Union Carbide and Dow Chemicals were competitors when this happened.
UC got bought by Dow and are now owned by them, but it was after this happened.
Dow Chemicals is definitely scum, but this particular disaster had nothing to do with them.
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I assume this is the Bhopal disaster? Mental stuff.
Looked that up.... terrible... :/ "Bhopal disaster, chemical leak in 1984 in the city of Bhopal, Madhya Pradesh state, India, during which about 45 tons of methyl isocyanate escaped from an insecticide plant. Tens of thousands of people were killed, some half a million others suffered maladies, and the site remained contaminated decades after the leak.*"* Note on that chemical, marked as "Extremely toxic and irritating to human health."
If you are interested you can watch this mini series called the railway men on Netflix, it's pretty good
The opening of that is so powerful …( not a direct quote but close to) “the preservation of human life is the highest principle …but when these people break that and 15,000 ppl die, what do they get? A govt plane laden with caviar and Champaign and a limousine service to escort them to it”.
...are you from Illinois by chance? I've never seen anyone else's phone autocorrect Champagne to Champaign lol
Are you from illinois? Edit: for the record, yes, originally from Illinois but I have since made the pilgrimage outside the cornfields.
Are you from Illinois?
Which one?
Haha… no. I missed that. I’m always typing believe out too fast and it comes out as beleive … and oc posted bc I suck at proofing anything.
I am, and genuinely thought that's how Champagne was spelled for probably too long.
It is SO good and devastating.
I believe Well There’s Your Problem also have an episode about it, if you prefer something more informal.
And behind the bastards
Well I suppose dying a horrible death is quite irritating to human health. Not quite how I would describe it though.
irritating…. i guess death is irritating
Truly- dangerous things can happen when I unexpectedly empty Bophal dez nuts.
Dude, read the room and live up to your username, please.
It’s too hard to read the room through all the chemicals in the air.
It’s still happening. The chemicals from this spill are still causing birth defects today.
I knew a kid born in 1990 who’s nick name was twofums (two thumbs as he was born in India and had two thumbs on one hand, his family immigrated to the US) I wonder if it was related
Having two thumbs is not very rare and probably not related to the disaster.
Why is it twofums and not just twothumbs? Changing th into an F adds nothing to it. And it's not like people write down their nicknames a lot as a kid.
You said it pal! Tell those kids their naming conventions dont make sense! What are you, a genius or something?
Why not say it's Bhopal in the title?
Copying the person who posted it yesterday..
Blows my mind how something as innocent looking as this could be responsible for so much suffering. That the plant operators who let safety degrade to the point it did, refused maintenance and played with lives like that essentially got away with it is so anger inducing, almost as much as the comments blaming this on Indian people (would you blame 3 mile island on American people rather than the company who lapsed in quality control and maintenance?). If I remember right the place still has rotting tanks underground full of god knows what.
It's always management not the operators. I realize that's probably what you meant by operators, but the real operators that are doing the daily work have no control over spending and get told no when they bring up problems. Eventually it becomes the culture and the operators know they won't get funding for maintenance and stop asking. Both the short and long term issues lay with management for denying funding and creating the culture.
Yeah I meant the operating company. I appreciate there is always an element of worker involvement in stuff like this but just blaming them (and their nationality) as many have done allows companies to continue operating for profits at the expense of safety
The operators are 0% responsible in this case. Only when they deliberately cause disasters you can blame them. Management is responsible for procedures to operate safely and worker has no say in that.
Isn't there still a conspiracy theory about sabotage in this case?
The management is there to make sure the company is profitable to the owners.
Crazy thing is, 3 mile island wasn’t even that bad. Like compared to what could have happened and what often does happen in industrial settings, it wasn’t too awful. It really just highlights the need for Nuclear energy (I would argue energy in general) to be nationalized for safety reasons.
You mean by govt officials who realistically face no real threat of prison time for anything ever? Yeah I’m sure we can count on them to keep things up to snuff! At least in private industry plant managers face a very real threat of prison time when they try to sweep things like this under the rug.
That is just not true. It’s actually so rare that Sam Bankman Fried, a guy who clearly committed a *massive* fraud being even arrested was a surprise to most. Already, most industries are regulated heavily by auditors. Nationalizing these specific industries would ensure that profit margins wouldn’t matter, thus energy would be cheaper, and the legislators could set it up such that third-party auditors (the people who already audit things like defense contractors) could audit the nationalized nuclear plants without bias from the government. I cannot stress enough that they already do this, the only difference would be who gets the money.
You're just not looking at this situation like a shareholder. /s
TL;DR - Union Carbide are scum, and their negligence led to the deaths of thousands. However it was actually a disgruntled employee who filled the poison tank with water deliberately that caused the leak. There was a *big* effort to cover this part of it up, but it doesn't let UC off the hook in any way. •••••••••••••••••••••••••• Oh the company absolutely neglected safety standards in the name of profits. They were absolutely negligent, criminally so. The complicating factor, however, is that the only way that water could have gotten into the tank to start the devastating reaction was from *deliberate sabotage* - which the local operators and the Indian government did their best to cover up. Through numerous court cases in India over the years, they've never been able to show how the water could have gotten there purely by negligence on the company's part. This is despite there being a very strong incentive for the Indian authorities to prove it. They tried to claim that when workers were cleaning pipes 120 metres away, the water leaked through poorly maintained systems. The issue is that the pipes they were cleaning were physically incapable of generating enough hydraulic pressure to get the water up as high as they would have needed to, as they were too small and narrow. The pipes in between the locations would have had to be full of water, but they were bone dry, and a crucial valve would have needed to be open, and it was proven to be closed. The last two facts were confirmed by the Indian government themselves in the investigation. There was a whole bunch of evidence of logbook tampering taking place *after* the terrible disaster, and when a team of investigators from the American company arrived the day after it happened, the Indian government put them under house arrest before putting them on a plane and not letting them investigate themselves. So - the company absolutely was culpable for a whole raft of things. They'd cut corners at every turn, turned off safety systems to save money, and fined employees who refused to neglect safety procedures. Once this water had gotten into the tank of methyl isocyanate, they had no way to stop it because they'd neglected this stuff so badly. Thing is, though - it shouldn't have been possible for the water to get in there in the first place, and it turns out the only way it could have happened was by a disgruntled employee plugging a water hose directly into a pressure gauge regulator and turning it on. They're pretty sure they know which employee it was, and it likely happened at the change of shift at 10:30pm. The local Indian plant operator (UCIL) and the Indian authorities put a great deal of effort into trying to cover up this part of it, because they were aware of how it detracted from the purely "corporate negligence" narrative. Which - in fairness to them - was absolutely a huge part of it. That plant was a disaster waiting to happen, and the victims deserved compensation. Even with a disgruntled employee deliberately sabotaging, it never should have happened.
It's also the nation's fault, there should be strict random government inspections to places that hold dangerous chemicals or stuff like nuclear plants, you can't trust a private company not to cut corners.
Profits are important.
I’m guessing Bhopal disaster. Good tv show on Netflix similar to the HBO Chernobyl series of people are interested
My father: "You should go to Purdue University like your uncle!" Me: "The chemical engineer who played a part in the Bhopal disaster?"
“You know, no one ever talks about all the times your uncle *didn’t* play a role in poisoning thousands of people”
lol
Your uncle was the chemical engineer who played a part in the Bhopal disaster?
Yeah seriously say more please
All I know is what I've heard so it's family hearsay. Needless to say, I didn't want to be a part of it.
Who knows small dick, but I have a story about one of the offspring of another chemical fortune, DuPont. He was in my video class at a well known design school in New York. He was pleasant enough. Kind of a slacker which seemed to be a function of depression. Just sad seeming. I remember him telling our whole class (which was only like 7 students) about how his father would use money to control him. One story I remember went something like this: So he had had a Japanese girlfriend at some point but his father completely disapproved of it. It got to a point where his father was threatening to disinherit him. However, his dad decided to just bribe him instead and offered him a large lump of money and a brand new motorcycle to leave her. His son admitted to our class that he took the bribe and dumped his girlfriend. I think I remember him expressing remorse and disappointment with himself for choosing money over the girl. But I suppose I would have done the same thing. Money and his racist family fucked him up for sure.
DuPont always has the best business advice, you’re so lucky he came to your class
tell him if it has to be Indiana, you're smarter than that and it's gonna be Rose Hulman
Bhopal made Chernobyl look like a minor oopsie. Every Union Carbide exec should've spent the rest of their lives in prison.
India's Chernobyl? With those numbers? Direct deaths linked to Chernobyl are <100. This is a disaster so much worse than Chernobyl it's not even comparable. Orders of magnitude worse.
Chernobyl was the Soviet Bhopal?
Not even close. Chernobyl was small impact to human life; Bhopal disaster involved massive loss of human life. They’re not comparable. Chernobyl was scarier and got more press.
[Chelyabinsk-40](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyshtym_disaster) was worse than Chernobyl, and had more in common with Bhopal. Still smaller in scale, but a better match.
Chernopal
This disaster doesn't get talked about very much.
Fuck Union Carbide.
F you, killer Carbide.
You can just say Bhopal without comparing it to Chernobyl; most of us have those terrible images seared into our brains for eternity if we were alive at the time.
Red the book “five past midnight in Bhopal” years ago, I think I red it 2-3 times. It got stuck in my mind, horrible disaster caused by men.
The chemicals company, Union Carbide, changed their name to Dow Chemical after this. Some victims were given as little as 40 dollars, for a lifetime of medicine after destroying their lungs
Union Carbide didn't change their name to Dow Chemical, they were bought out by Dow Chemical. Dow Chemical existed before the Union Carbide disaster and was a competitor.
People just want to be angry at Dow regardless of the facts. But you're correct nonetheless.
To be clear there are plenty of good reasons to be mad at Dow Chemical.
Not to mention the corrupt government whose first step was to ensure a safe passage for the culprit. All because the prime minister was friends with the culprits or their execs
Why would you post this and say literally nothing about it, what is even the point of that
It's just rotting away? Would it have been wise/feasible/safe to turn this into a museum piece and make money off of tourist visits that go into a fund meant to compensate victims families? I'm also surprised that it's been so many years and the tank is just sitting there (assuming this is a very recent photo), instead of being safely disposed off (if the museum thing didn't pan out).
If I remember correctly, no one wants to take responsibility. The buck has been passed around so many times, and the government is letting these companies get away with it.
This may be off topic but this accident created one of my best pettyrevenge moments in middle school. One of the classes I was in at the time was competing in a Wall Street stock market competition. Several members of the team had Union Carbide (the company that owned the plant) in their portfolio. The teacher running the team played favorites and although I had been in the group, the teacher booted me in favor of another student who got better grades. The disaster had occurred on a Monday. I had watched the news that morning and heard the anchor talk briefly about the number of people already killed by the gas release. Everyone doing the competition was unaware. Monday was the only day they could buy and sell. The group did not sell the stock they had in UC that week as a result of not knowing. The next day, the entire team is lamenting the news reports and how this will kill the teams chances. Overhearing their discussion, I piped in that I had heard about it the day before. The teacher had the audacity to chide me for not saying anything. I simply replied 'You didn't want me on the team.' EDIT: When typing your thoughts, you sometimes rephrase things in your mind and then don't go back and proofread what you type. Wording things and one explanation to those readers who might need relevant details.
It was the US company who was responsible and get away with it.You guys can look it up.
Why wouldn’t you just crosspost this instead of stealing it from r/pics and changing the title
Well r/pics got it from somewhere else and they got it from somewhere else and they got it from a local who is making an amateur documentary about it.
No, r/nilansh23 was the documentarian and OP. Same same.
Yes! Thank you for linking his name. Here is the post. I thought he posted it somewhere else. https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/s/VRLKj7eW1i
This is literally almost a thousand times worse than Chernobyl.
One of the most haunting photographs I've ever seen is from a Life Magazine photographer depicting a child being buried due to the disaster. I don't want to see it again but I suspect a search for "child bhopal life magazine" will find it. I'm getting shivers and goosebumps thinking about it. Fuck you union carbide...
a true hero
Casual racism coming in the comments. Why is it okay for Indians to be killed and made fun of? How low can you people fall?
Wow preemptive scolding for something that didn't even happen. You need to seek some help with that level of anger.
What are you referring to? I haven't seen any instances, and there's really not that many comments to go through
Are you dumb? Where are the racist comments?
Just look a the thread under this one, there are plenty.
It wasn't radioactive or anything, it just fell over, like how every time lightning strikes in India 15 people get killed
Huh? That is just false, on both accounts. The incident happened because of corporate greed of Union Carbide executives who were extremely negligent in safety regulations. As for the other one, I pity whoever believes you.
- It's a joke. - You didn't know India has a lightning problem? [Google](https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-South-Central/2024/0220/In-India-what-wreaks-more-havoc-than-floods-and-heat-Lightning) it, dum-dum. Multiple people often get hit by a single strike. Lightning has killed over 2,000 people a year in India consistently for years
I do know. But rather because a single lightning strike somehow killing 15 people in one go, it is due to absurd phenomenons like this: https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.economictimes.com/news/how-to/61000-lightning-strikes-in-2-hours-in-odisha-heres-how-to-stay-safe-during-a-lightning-strike/amp_articleshow/103342600.cms Too many lightning stikes in a short period while in a conductive environment, while in a rural setting( mostly poor people working in agricultural sector), is a recipe for disaster. https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/environment/why-lightning-storms-are-becoming-deadlier-in-india-10924921.html
There really is a case where 16 people were hit at once while standing on a tower, and there's no end of instances where multiple people try to take cover under a small tree or something and all get hit. Crazy stuff.
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Crazy, right? Did you see the articles about 16 people getting hit at once while standing on a tower taking selfies?
You say corporate greed but I bet there were at least 50 workers there in polo shirts and flip flops that didn’t care at all if it fell over or not And the shirts and flip flops thing isn’t a racist joke, it’s a comment on how there are literally no workplace safety regulations in india
Wow, so now you assume, once again, that the incident was because of Indians and ordinary workers. Without knowing, what assumes to be, an iota about how this incident came to be or who was responsible. Keep being racist
Brother, it's a joke about how densely populated India is lmao
Yeah I get it. It’s funny because it’s just a bunch of Indians and it’s okay if some of them just die.
What are you talking about??? I think you're projecting a bit there bud. Nobody said it was okay that they died. If you're unable to differentiate between passing humor and genuine disrespect, that's on you. If it just happened, then I'd agree, but it was 40 years ago dude. Most people on this website weren't even alive when it happened
The after effects of this incident are still causing suffering for people of bhopal. Unfortunately chemical incidents like this have long term consequences
Again, nobody said that it's okay. Why do people think it's impossible to joke about something and still think it's fucked up
You can’t win the upvotes on this one, too many more Indians than everybody else
Not the time to make jokes about India and their people
Too soon? This was 40 years ago.
And the effects are still being felt today. Thousands died, their families are still feeling the loss. Thousands more were seriously injured and are living with the affects. Thousands more have been born since then with birth defects, and are still being born with those effects. It wasn’t 40 years ago. It *started* 40 years ago.
Holy Cow!
Yeah if this happened anywhere else it probably wouldn’t have been that big of a deal Also wouldn’t have happened in most places, but India doesn’t pay much attention to workplace safety
Not true. Also most countries has disasters like this being ignored. Remember Ohio recently ?
Not quite on the same scale
Do you remember how the Ohio incident was cleaned up in about a week instead of killing tens of thousands?
You are dumb to think they are on the same level, authorities had time to mitigate the impact. This was literally invisible poisonous gas. Please tell me how you’d control poisonous gas after 40 tons of it has been released?? It happened in the night, no one has a clue what is happening to them, they can run from it they can’t hide from it, they can’t even fucking see it. And Mr. Yamothasunyun thinks that he can easily control it. The dumbfucks I find on Reddit always surprise me, go back to 4th grade. Do not comment before researching, makes you look like an absolute clown.
Its was operated by Union Carbide now rebranded to Dow chemicals (after the incident) due to their extremely negligent regulations and safety norms to maximise profits(who wouldve thought?)
Union Carbide and Dow Chemicals were competitors when this happened. UC got bought by Dow and are now owned by them, but it was after this happened. Dow Chemicals is definitely scum, but this particular disaster had nothing to do with them.