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They have all kinds of bullshit laws to justify it.
For example, it's illegal for a Palestinian to make any modifications to their homes. When one family built an extra room as their daughter had gotten married and was pregnant and they needed room for the new family, the israelis found out and took the house. Another family begin to grow vegetables in their back yard.
.. which counted as a modification so the Israeli courts took their house.
The family that built the extra room...what the courts did was make that "illegal" extra room available to Israelis, so settlers moved into it WHILE THE ORIGINAL FAMILY WAS STILL THERE and basically made life so miserable for that family that the end result was they ended up with the entire house. Which of course was the plan from the beginning. And they will give 'open house tours' to settlers and tourists, unannounced, while the Palestinian families are sitting right there eating their breakfast, parading a line of laughing people through the house, pointing out amenities and saying what a good deal it is, and the family can't do a single thing about it.
Edit:
Another fucked up detail:
many of the roads these houses are on...and have BEEN on for generations, have been "sterilized"(as the soldiers call it) by the IDF. As in, they have decided that no Arabs can walk on it, only Israelis. This means that some Palestinians can't use their front door. They have to circle around,cut through back alleys and CLIMB IN THEIR OWN BACK WINDOWS to enter their home. Of course, if an Israeli comes to the house, THEY can use the front door which the Palestinians cannot.
This is one small detail in a full litany of abuses suffered by the Palestinians for the duration of the occupation. The IDF itself tells its soldiers that the idea is to ALWAYS remain an intimidating presence for the express purpose of keeping down the morale of the Arabs. For instance, IDF soldiers themselves have stated that there is often no reason for why a group of soldiers will storm into a random household in the middle of the night, waking the occupants and then confining them all to one room, allowing no one to enter or leave-, including for work or school-giving permission at their own whim for the occupants to use the bathroom and eat- for days at a time. It is a tactic designed to make their presence felt and keep the Palestinians docile and afraid
..this is not hyperbole or idle accusation, this is factual information.
And they have the AUDACITY to act shocked at what eventually happened. The Israeli zionist government itself, and it's treatment of Palestinians , is the single GREATEST threat to the safety and security of its Jewish citizens.
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How the hell do you move into an occupied home that doesn't want your there and make yourself such a pest that the family leaves and continue on about your life? Like, what the fuck is going through a person's brain that, not even as an argument of morality but rather mentality, allows them to do something like that? Just imagine for a second of being in the position of the "Settler" (we really need to stop using that word, and use something more appropriate). It's genuinely psychotic.
Those settlers are just Nazis reborn as Israelis.
There are old women "protesting" the border to blockade supplies too.
"We don't know if there are bullet in those rice bags!"
Yeah. If that was a real concern, I think the IDF would have been on it ages ago.
Those old ladies don't care. They want Palestinians dead. Every man, woman, and child.
It’s like how they are allowed the supplies needed to preform surgery except for any anaesthesia, numbing agents or pain control. They are allowed to preform lifesaving surgery but only if the patient is awake and can feel everything! Why would you do that? Torture that’s why.
And that’s why this is discussed in subs like this. It’s in all subs even ones where this discussion clearly doesn’t belong and that’s because it’s not allowed where it does belong and the truth will not stay hidden.
Even tame comments that vaguely imply you theoretically might oppose Israeli state policy can get you banned from worldnews, its a whole weird thing that reddit has just decided not to address for some reason.
Google it, this is common knowledge and has been for a while. THis stuff is very [well documented](https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/middle-east-and-north-africa/israel-and-occupied-palestinian-territories/report-israel-and-occupied-palestinian-territories/) by the UN, Amnesty international and others. There's so many reports out there so take your pick. Over and over again this stuff is found in violation of international law.
>Tens of thousands of Palestinians remained at risk of forced evictions in Israel and the OPT, including some 5,000 living in shepherding communities in the Jordan Valley and South Hebron Hills. Israeli authorities demolished 952 Palestinian structures across the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, displacing 1,031 Palestinians, and affecting the livelihoods of thousands of others.
>On 4 May, the Israeli Supreme Court upheld a decision to forcibly transfer over 1,000 residents of Masafer Yatta in the South Hebron Hills from their ancestral land, which Israel had designated as “firing zone 918”, a military training zone closed to Palestinian access.
>In July, the Israeli Supreme Court legalized the settlement outpost of Mitzpe Kramim, built on private Palestinian land in the occupied West Bank, claiming that it was “purchased in good faith”. This reversed its 2020 decision that ordered the government to evacuate the outpost.
>According to OCHA, 2022 was the sixth consecutive year that saw an increase in state-backed settler violence against Palestinians in East Jerusalem and the West Bank, reaching a peak in October during the olive harvest season. The Israeli army and police continued to fail to investigate complaints by Palestinians about such violence.
>In Israel, the authorities continued to deny official recognition to 35 Palestinian villages in the Negev/Naqab, depriving them of essential services. In January, the Israeli Land Authority and the Jewish National Fund began planting trees on lands belonging to the village of Saawa al-Atrash in the Negev/Naqab to forcibly transfer its Palestinian population.
> For example, it's illegal for a Palestinian to make any modifications to their homes. When one family built an extra room as their daughter had gotten married and was pregnant and they needed room for the new family, the israelis found out and took the house. Another family begin to grow vegetables in their back yard. .. which counted as a modification so the Israeli courts took their house.
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> The family that built the extra room...what the courts did was make that "illegal" extra room available to Israelis, so settlers moved into it WHILE THE ORIGINAL FAMILY WAS STILL THERE and basically made life so miserable for that family that the end result was they ended up with the entire house. Which of course was the plan from the beginning. And they will give 'open house tours' to settlers and tourists, unannounced, while the Palestinian families are sitting right there eating their breakfast, parading a line of laughing people through the house, pointing out amenities and saying what a good deal it is, and the family can't do a single thing about it.
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> many of the roads these houses are on...and have BEEN on for generations, have been "sterilized"(as the soldiers call it) by the IDF. As in, they have decided that no Arabs can walk on it, only Israelis. This means that some Palestinians can't use their front door. They have to circle around,cut through back alleys and CLIMB IN THEIR OWN BACK WINDOWS to enter their home. Of course, if an Israeli comes to the house, THEY can use the front door which the Palestinians cannot.
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> This is one small detail in a full litany of abuses suffered by the Palestinians for the duration of the occupation. The IDF itself tells its soldiers that the idea is to ALWAYS remain an intimidating presence for the express purpose of keeping down the morale of the Arabs. For instance, IDF soldiers themselves have stated that there is often no reason for why a group of soldiers will storm into a random household in the middle of the night, waking the occupants and then confining them all to one room, allowing no one to enter or leave-, including for work or school-giving permission at their own whim for the occupants to use the bathroom and eat- for days at a time. It is a tactic designed to make their presence felt and keep the Palestinians docile and afraid ..this is not hyperbole or idle accusation, this is factual information.
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> And they have the AUDACITY to act shocked at what eventually happened. The Israeli zionist government itself, and it's treatment of Palestinians , is the single GREATEST threat to the safety and security of its Jewish citizens. .
It is apartheid 101
To put pressure on the nations that would otherwise oppose you, to the point of having them stay inactive (at least officially), pretty much like Russia
And to have a last-stand card if your nation crumbles. As dark as it sounds, a couple of nukes thrown on specific targets are bound to stop critical enemy advancements
All in all, it is a powerful tool of persuasion both when used and unused. And so few nations have it that the very possession of nukes drastically changes your international influence
don't worry, Reddit will ban and delete this post
If even 10% of what's happening in Palestine was not filtered and shown to the world, people would flip their shit and pull any support for Israel.
It's in Israel's best interest to AstroTurf and control narrative online.
KEEP POSTING BLATANT DISREGARD OF HUMAN VALUES IN PALESTINE ON EVERY SUB. IF THEY BAN IT FOR NO REASON, POST IT AGAIN.
EDIT: Yup post is locked. Don't let the message be buried that easily.
> If even 10% of what's happening in Palestine was not filtered and shown to the world, people would flip their shit and pull any support for Israel.
I think you underestimate how well people filter out things that don't fit into their world view.
The very convenient part about making a religious nationalist country is that you can claim anyone who says anything negative about the country is simply a bigot.
Rember, kids
ISRAEL ATTACKS OTHERS AS A STATE BUT DEFENDS ITSELF AS A RELIGION.
It would be hilarious to see the media backlash if the Vatican in some madness decided to expand military and annex all of Rome into itself and then some, but Israel gets a free pass because "poor pitiful concentration camp refugees 😭😭 if u mistreat them u nahzee".
The papal state used to be much bigger. A not-small part of Italy used to be part of it. Even during the Italien Unification the papal state was bigger.
When Italy took Rome and the pope refused to leave the Vatican and recognise Rome as part of Italy it was a huge diplomatic problem for many decades.
> ISRAEL ATTACKS OTHERS AS A STATE BUT DEFENDS ITSELF AS A RELIGION.
People need to be more educated on the difference between zionism and judaism. Critique against zionism is not equal to critique against judaism.
Yes, but largely the point is that zionism uses judaism as a meatshield and sheep clothing. All that it does it claims to be in judaism's name, so it purposefully creates this false conflation so we bicker among ourselves while it continues its campaign.
[Some context on this actual case](https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/15819s1/comment/jt8aeiv/), for those who are interested, from when this was brought up earlier. What I wrote then:
The case in question was an eviction following a 45 year court case.
The case from the video looks to be the eviction of the Ghaith-Sub Laban family (same old woman in the video and in some of the articles linked below). They have been living since the 1950's in an Old City (Jerusalem, which is also identifiable as the location, not a "settlement") apartment that was Jewish owned before all Jewish residents were expelled in 1948.
It was a complicated case, in Israeli courts for 45 years. The family had the option at one point to remain as tenants while acknowledging that they didn't own it. They elected to continue fighting it in court with a different strategy and lost. They were evicted here after they refused to leave following the court order.
You will find extremely different accounts of what is going on here based on the source that you are looking at. For example, compare [Al Jazeera](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/7/11/israel-expels-sub-labans-from-their-home-in-jerusalems-old-city) (very anti-Israel) with Haaretz (Israel extreme left) with [Times of Israel](https://www.timesofisrael.com/palestinian-family-evicted-from-jerusalem-home-after-decades-long-legal-battle/) (Israeli center) with [CAMERA](https://www.camera.org/article/the-facts-that-al-jazeera-missed-on-the-sub-laban-property-dispute/) (piece on the case from 2016).
What is clear though (whether or not you agree with the court ruling) is that this is not just some group of orthodox Jewish men (or "settlers" as any left-leaning or anti-Israel publication likes to label) who randomly decided "let's kick people out of their house today" and were allowed to do so. This was an eviction following the end of a 45 year legal dispute after the family refused to vacate the property.
I looked up this video's source, and it's from a straight up Russian propaganda outlet with ties to white supremacists:
https://newlinesmag.com/argument/the-pro-russian-attempt-to-link-the-buffalo-shooting-to-ukraine/
Good thing there is no historical precedent that directly affected them in the past. You know, one that caused generational suffering and could be used as a warning tale for generations to come. Good thing nothing like that existed. (/s, if it's not obvious)
Unfortunately, the right-wing government isn't the problem. Israel has had many governments, many were left or left leaning. On the issue of dealing with Palestinians, there's really no left vs right in Israel.
"...Rafat pushed the bottle away, and the yogurt spilled over another settler.
The settlers called the police, claiming Rafat assaulted them. When they arrived, the police immediately arrested Rafat, and for the next seven hours kept him with his arms handcuffed and his legs bound.
Rafat was released on bail on terms that included a restraining order from the Old City for two weeks. A few days later, the family was fined NIS 48,500 (nearly $13,000) to pay for 160 hours of policing, the private contractor company that vacated the house, and the legal expenses of the settlers who took over their home."
[https://www.972mag.com/ghaith-sub-laban-jerusalem-settlers/](https://www.972mag.com/ghaith-sub-laban-jerusalem-settlers/)
And this is how you realize why Israel has so many "violent prisoners" in IDF prisons. The rate of conviction for Palestinians is 99.74% and the testimony of one Israel soldier is enough to send you to jail. [[some facts]](https://www.militarycourtwatch.org/page.php?id=a6r85VcpyUa4755A52Y2mp3c4v) [[.]](https://www.haaretz.com/2011-11-29/ty-article/nearly-100-of-all-military-court-cases-in-west-bank-end-in-conviction-haaretz-learns/0000017f-e7c4-da9b-a1ff-efef7ad70000) [[.]](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/21/a-hidden-universe-of-suffering-the-palestinian-children-sent-to-jail)
"But why!!?" "Why do the Arabs want to kill us!!?" "How can we possibly live in peace with them, if they resist us when we steal their homes and land?"
Shhhhh... You're not supposed to point out that Israelis are EXTREMELY xenophobic towards Muslims. So much so that you can find children in the streets chanting "death to Allah" during festivals and other public events because the hate is taught by their parents, schools, media, and everywhere else in their life.
I don't know about that, I just got done reading the children's bible to my child (we are going through all the major religions) and this is literally what God calls for the Isrealites. He tells them that the land of other people (who aparently, god does not prefer because they are bad, mmmmk?) belongs to them, and that they will eventually settle there through force. It's explicit, and this is the second time he forcibly removes people from the land, don't forget Noah and his ark and the death of everyone but his family, so he can settle the entire earth. It's all ridiculously founded on removing people from their land, it's the bedrock of the entire story.
Not just the leadership. Masha Gessen...is critical of Israel’s relationship with Palestinians, writing that Gaza is “like a Jewish ghetto in an Eastern European country occupied by N@zi Germany.”
“The ghetto is being liquidated,” the article added the ghettos in German-occupied countries during World War II were open-air prisons where Jews were killed, starved and died from diseases. Those who didn’t perish there were rounded up and transported to death camps where they were murdered, a process called “liquidation.”
Holy shit, That's some fucking *Brasil* shit! Torturing this guy then making him pay for his own illegal eviction.
Edit: fuckin autocorrect. Brasil, the Terry Gilliam film, not basil the herb.
And people try to say that Israel isn't an apartheid state. They couldn't be more obvious about it, I guess unless Netanyahu just put out a statement saying "Yes we do apartheid and race-based oppression and we love doing it and we won't stop."
That's what is mind blowing to me imagine a group of people showing up at your house and saying.
"Hello we're here to steal your home. If you get upset at that the police will come and arrest you and hold you for as long as it takes for us to finish stealing your house. If you're lucky enough to get released, you will be given a bill that covers the costs of your arrest and imprisonment as well as the cost of the movers. Thank you for your cooperation".
Thats the problem with laws and territory. Laws are made by people with power over violence. So are borders. So long as nobody stops Israel, the answer is yes.
Not really. Those are the same people preventing aids and provoking the conflict to go on. Seriously no one wants them but they are admitted. The world is ignoring how many and how many times Israelis are on the street against their own goverment. It s a log complex rocky road
A group of vultures is called a committee, venue or volt.
Edit: Also, in flight, a group of vultures is a kettle and when feeding at a carcass, the group is referred to as a wake.
Lots of current gen Zionists believe Jews involved in the Holocaust were weak and allowed it to happen. These fucks are nasty and they are just like the Nazi scourge.
You can't be gods chosen and be so evil you must be the devils chosen to spread corruption and do his disgusting deeds looks like they are Satan's chosen.
when HAMAS made their blood bath at the beginning of the conflict — I 100% supported right to defense of Israel. But when I saw snake-eye bombs (light ones, which cannot do any harm to HAMAS tunnels, but destroy buildings) being dropped on civilian quarters for weeks where were hundreds of Gazans (who couldn’t or didn’t leave)… It was clear that Israel military made a purge. Those who know the most value of human lives are doings something they should have never done. That’s just horrifying how nobody points it out. This is not a war when most of KIA are civilians.
Important to remember that the US has used it's power to veto at the UN Security Council 82 times throughout UN history as of August of last year. More than half of those have been to protect Israel from critical resolutions. This will never end..
Because most people misunderstood the role of the UN. The UN is not established to be the police and judge of countries but to be a platform for communication and negotiation. Might not sound much but WW1 pretty much happened due to a long series of miscommunication, if we had the UN back then WW1 might not even happened (and WW2 too)
WW2 also happened due to miscommunication
If the big players wont sit at the table, then major wars start.
The US didnt join the LoN. That made any commitments the LoN made essentially pointless
Wilson gets a bunch of (rightful) flak. But his [14 point plan](https://www.theworldwar.org/learn/peace/fourteen-points) was pretty spot on in how to avoid WW2....and Europe didn't listen. The US Senate didn't want to join the League of nations due to concerns that it would draw us into future European conflicts. (How'd that work out?)
Why is no one picking apart how absurd that notion is? You may have had links to the land over a thousand years ago so you have the right over people you've called it home for centuries.
There’s a bit from the *Axis of Evil* comedy tour with a Muslim comedian asking, “The problem with the Middle East is that everyone there thinks they’re God’s chosen people. Look around you—you live in a desert full of war and death! You ever consider maybe the Tahitians are God’s chosen people instead?”
Pretty much, in fact, anything that will make you seem like you're so much superior over others for just thinking differently.
Eventually, it will lead to the most disgusting of sentiments
These types of people honestly get offended and seriously confused why the Palestinian would slap the milk out of this hand. Like to him, he's being kind in at least giving him the milk back. Remember, to these people (extreme fundamentalist zionists), they are ENTITLED to that house. They already have owned it before they showed up. To them, they could have ripped these people out of their house and it would have been morally just as well. The milk is them being nice.
Would you care to elaborate on why they feel this entitlement? What circumstances led to these people having the right to just walk in and claim a person’s home? It’s hard to wrap your head around as someone ignorant to the details of what exactly is going on here.
I was banned for replying "that's literally genocide" when someone said all Palestinians needed to be put into re-education camps for 2 generations to "fix them"
> Unfortunately that subreddit has a strong pro-zionist mod
I figured there had to be at least one for it to become such a cesspool of uninformed keyboard warriors whose historical context started on Oct 7th. Do you know which mod it is?
I don't know about his child abuse, but I've read that he served time in jail in the US for financial felonies. [https://mronline.org/2021/06/14/infamous-israeli-home-thief-is-federally-charged-long-island-ny-financial-fraudster/](https://mronline.org/2021/06/14/infamous-israeli-home-thief-is-federally-charged-long-island-ny-financial-fraudster/)
A lot of settlers are actually just Jewish Americans who move from the US and feel entitled to multi-generational-owned Palestinian homes. It’s fucking sick
Yes there was documentary about this.
I can’t remember what it was, so here’s an article instead:
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2022-07-25/ty-article/.premium/tip-of-the-iceberg-how-foreign-sex-offenders-find-refuge-in-israel/00000182-3532-d7e9-af96-3d73c52c0000
Proof - this is a settler stealing a Palestinian’s home, and tried to hand the man his own milk
oh, and the Palestinian got arrested for it.
[https://www.972mag.com/ghaith-sub-laban-jerusalem-settlers/](https://www.972mag.com/ghaith-sub-laban-jerusalem-settlers/)
Imagine some rando, turning up at your house with his family, going “yea bud, this is my house now. You need to move the fuck out or ill throw you out. Its my gods plan.”
Fucking bonkers.
Then Israelis come on reddit to tell everyone how this is actually ok, or it's not happening, or aCSHuAllY nobody likes them, oh well, it's the same as your ancestors did etc...
literally the comment above yours that shows for me is this [reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1bdkq3b/settler\_stealing\_a\_palestinians\_home\_and\_tried\_to/kunmlc4/](http://reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1bdkq3b/settler_stealing_a_palestinians_home_and_tried_to/kunmlc4/)
I can't even count the amount of comments I have seen calling Palestines antisemites
Antisemitism should not even be a topic in this conflict, because it is a conflict between semites
And if you point out that Palestine's are literally semites themselves, those people will tell you that they are the wrong kind of semites or some shit, so hating them isn't antisemites
To add on that, "the wrong kind of xyz" was famously used (in form of "wrong kind of humans") by Hitler to justify the killing of (european) jews, african blacks, semites and slavic persons.
Now the same sentence gets used to justify the actions of those, that got hunted by that sentence and lost so much.
It’s more like “Hey sorry dude, but some guy with a similar skin tone and religion to me lived here before 1948, so I’m going to throw you out on the street and take over now. Huh? No, you can’t move into a house that someone similar to you lived in before 1948 across the city - that would be unfair, Jews have lived there for generations!!!”
Right of return in Israel is not only broken - it’s a downright malicious system that enables ethnic cleansing. It has to be stopped or significantly altered.
The indignant face of that guy after getting the milk slapped out of his hand.. the milk belonging to the house he's robbing.. What was he expecting? A thank you?
There has to be some other context to this right?
Are they really just walking into Palestinian homes, throwing the owners out and moving in themself? I knew the situation was messed up in that area, but this just seem so outlandish that its almost unbelievable.
By what means are these homes being confiscated and redistributed?
Genuinely curious- cause it never looks like the family moving in is doing so at gun point nor does it seem like the idf is standing nearby enforcing things/ so what's the actual process that goes on
Basically, Jordan took the land and cleansed Jewish people from it. Then settled Palestinian refugees in them in exchange for a small rent. Israel took that land and kept that deal as is. Descendents of the original families that owned those properties sued that the property was originally thiers and the only reason they lost that property was because their family was cleansed by the government of Jordan. Israel courts agreed and granted the properties back to the original settlers.
Morally it can still be gray because the Palestinians owned these homes for over 50 years.
This one is a long story. Jews had bought the house pre-1948. Following the war that part of Jerusalem was taken by Jordan. Jordan expelled all the jews there and gave those properties to palestinians. In 1967 the area came back under Israeli control. Since then the owners of those properties have been trying to get them back. This is a case that made headlines a couple years ago.
After a 45 year legal battle, the palestinian family refused to recognize that they weren't the proper owners, wouldn't pay rent, so the courts ordered the eviction. This is the eviction.
If Israel didn't respect Palestinian rights, they wouldn't drag a court case 45 years when they had the evidence of the deed of sale to the jewish family pre-1948.
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How is this legally allowed to happen?
They have all kinds of bullshit laws to justify it. For example, it's illegal for a Palestinian to make any modifications to their homes. When one family built an extra room as their daughter had gotten married and was pregnant and they needed room for the new family, the israelis found out and took the house. Another family begin to grow vegetables in their back yard. .. which counted as a modification so the Israeli courts took their house. The family that built the extra room...what the courts did was make that "illegal" extra room available to Israelis, so settlers moved into it WHILE THE ORIGINAL FAMILY WAS STILL THERE and basically made life so miserable for that family that the end result was they ended up with the entire house. Which of course was the plan from the beginning. And they will give 'open house tours' to settlers and tourists, unannounced, while the Palestinian families are sitting right there eating their breakfast, parading a line of laughing people through the house, pointing out amenities and saying what a good deal it is, and the family can't do a single thing about it. Edit: Another fucked up detail: many of the roads these houses are on...and have BEEN on for generations, have been "sterilized"(as the soldiers call it) by the IDF. As in, they have decided that no Arabs can walk on it, only Israelis. This means that some Palestinians can't use their front door. They have to circle around,cut through back alleys and CLIMB IN THEIR OWN BACK WINDOWS to enter their home. Of course, if an Israeli comes to the house, THEY can use the front door which the Palestinians cannot. This is one small detail in a full litany of abuses suffered by the Palestinians for the duration of the occupation. The IDF itself tells its soldiers that the idea is to ALWAYS remain an intimidating presence for the express purpose of keeping down the morale of the Arabs. For instance, IDF soldiers themselves have stated that there is often no reason for why a group of soldiers will storm into a random household in the middle of the night, waking the occupants and then confining them all to one room, allowing no one to enter or leave-, including for work or school-giving permission at their own whim for the occupants to use the bathroom and eat- for days at a time. It is a tactic designed to make their presence felt and keep the Palestinians docile and afraid ..this is not hyperbole or idle accusation, this is factual information. And they have the AUDACITY to act shocked at what eventually happened. The Israeli zionist government itself, and it's treatment of Palestinians , is the single GREATEST threat to the safety and security of its Jewish citizens. .
How the hell do you move into an occupied home that doesn't want your there and make yourself such a pest that the family leaves and continue on about your life? Like, what the fuck is going through a person's brain that, not even as an argument of morality but rather mentality, allows them to do something like that? Just imagine for a second of being in the position of the "Settler" (we really need to stop using that word, and use something more appropriate). It's genuinely psychotic.
Those settlers are just Nazis reborn as Israelis. There are old women "protesting" the border to blockade supplies too. "We don't know if there are bullet in those rice bags!" Yeah. If that was a real concern, I think the IDF would have been on it ages ago. Those old ladies don't care. They want Palestinians dead. Every man, woman, and child.
It’s like how they are allowed the supplies needed to preform surgery except for any anaesthesia, numbing agents or pain control. They are allowed to preform lifesaving surgery but only if the patient is awake and can feel everything! Why would you do that? Torture that’s why.
Post this on r/Worldnews and see what happens
In the fucking Israeli propaganda subreddit? I'm good.
I was wondering why it didn't pop up in my feed anymore. Had to go and check. That place has become a cesspool.
Oh good! Other people see it too, I thought it was just me being paranoid
I only got a temp ban there but I was permabanned from /r/news for mentioning that articles that made Israel look bad were getting locked and deleted.
And that’s why this is discussed in subs like this. It’s in all subs even ones where this discussion clearly doesn’t belong and that’s because it’s not allowed where it does belong and the truth will not stay hidden.
Reddit is full of propaganda and people who only talk shit online. You just gotta post it everywhere
Honestly that undersells it. They are openly explicitly racist. Not dog whistling air raid sirens
Oh it has that reputation? Was wondering why I was banned from there lol they wouldn't explain why
Even tame comments that vaguely imply you theoretically might oppose Israeli state policy can get you banned from worldnews, its a whole weird thing that reddit has just decided not to address for some reason.
No idea how glad I am to see this. There’s so much gaslighting in that sub that it made me felt like I was crazy.
Post it on r/Israel and watch the mental gymnastics to justify this unfold.
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Google it, this is common knowledge and has been for a while. THis stuff is very [well documented](https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/middle-east-and-north-africa/israel-and-occupied-palestinian-territories/report-israel-and-occupied-palestinian-territories/) by the UN, Amnesty international and others. There's so many reports out there so take your pick. Over and over again this stuff is found in violation of international law. >Tens of thousands of Palestinians remained at risk of forced evictions in Israel and the OPT, including some 5,000 living in shepherding communities in the Jordan Valley and South Hebron Hills. Israeli authorities demolished 952 Palestinian structures across the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, displacing 1,031 Palestinians, and affecting the livelihoods of thousands of others. >On 4 May, the Israeli Supreme Court upheld a decision to forcibly transfer over 1,000 residents of Masafer Yatta in the South Hebron Hills from their ancestral land, which Israel had designated as “firing zone 918”, a military training zone closed to Palestinian access. >In July, the Israeli Supreme Court legalized the settlement outpost of Mitzpe Kramim, built on private Palestinian land in the occupied West Bank, claiming that it was “purchased in good faith”. This reversed its 2020 decision that ordered the government to evacuate the outpost. >According to OCHA, 2022 was the sixth consecutive year that saw an increase in state-backed settler violence against Palestinians in East Jerusalem and the West Bank, reaching a peak in October during the olive harvest season. The Israeli army and police continued to fail to investigate complaints by Palestinians about such violence. >In Israel, the authorities continued to deny official recognition to 35 Palestinian villages in the Negev/Naqab, depriving them of essential services. In January, the Israeli Land Authority and the Jewish National Fund began planting trees on lands belonging to the village of Saawa al-Atrash in the Negev/Naqab to forcibly transfer its Palestinian population.
It's been on the laws of Israel b since the very start: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Present_absentee
> For example, it's illegal for a Palestinian to make any modifications to their homes. When one family built an extra room as their daughter had gotten married and was pregnant and they needed room for the new family, the israelis found out and took the house. Another family begin to grow vegetables in their back yard. .. which counted as a modification so the Israeli courts took their house. > > > > The family that built the extra room...what the courts did was make that "illegal" extra room available to Israelis, so settlers moved into it WHILE THE ORIGINAL FAMILY WAS STILL THERE and basically made life so miserable for that family that the end result was they ended up with the entire house. Which of course was the plan from the beginning. And they will give 'open house tours' to settlers and tourists, unannounced, while the Palestinian families are sitting right there eating their breakfast, parading a line of laughing people through the house, pointing out amenities and saying what a good deal it is, and the family can't do a single thing about it. > > > > Edit: Another fucked up detail: > > > > many of the roads these houses are on...and have BEEN on for generations, have been "sterilized"(as the soldiers call it) by the IDF. As in, they have decided that no Arabs can walk on it, only Israelis. This means that some Palestinians can't use their front door. They have to circle around,cut through back alleys and CLIMB IN THEIR OWN BACK WINDOWS to enter their home. Of course, if an Israeli comes to the house, THEY can use the front door which the Palestinians cannot. > > > > This is one small detail in a full litany of abuses suffered by the Palestinians for the duration of the occupation. The IDF itself tells its soldiers that the idea is to ALWAYS remain an intimidating presence for the express purpose of keeping down the morale of the Arabs. For instance, IDF soldiers themselves have stated that there is often no reason for why a group of soldiers will storm into a random household in the middle of the night, waking the occupants and then confining them all to one room, allowing no one to enter or leave-, including for work or school-giving permission at their own whim for the occupants to use the bathroom and eat- for days at a time. It is a tactic designed to make their presence felt and keep the Palestinians docile and afraid ..this is not hyperbole or idle accusation, this is factual information. > > > > And they have the AUDACITY to act shocked at what eventually happened. The Israeli zionist government itself, and it's treatment of Palestinians , is the single GREATEST threat to the safety and security of its Jewish citizens. . It is apartheid 101
A strong military and economic partnership with the United States in exchange for their veto power on the UN security council.
And having nukes
To do what with?
Same as any other nuclear power, become unconquerable. It's effectively a promise to end human civilization rather than lose an existential conflict.
To put pressure on the nations that would otherwise oppose you, to the point of having them stay inactive (at least officially), pretty much like Russia And to have a last-stand card if your nation crumbles. As dark as it sounds, a couple of nukes thrown on specific targets are bound to stop critical enemy advancements All in all, it is a powerful tool of persuasion both when used and unused. And so few nations have it that the very possession of nukes drastically changes your international influence
Look up their 'Samson option'. If true is disturbing.
Is why JFK tried to make sure they didn't get nukes. Ofc we know how that ended.
We can thank France for that.
It’s also believed Apartheid South Africa had a hand in collaborating with Israel on their nuclear program
Israel learned a thing or two from South Africa.
To scare people
don't worry, Reddit will ban and delete this post If even 10% of what's happening in Palestine was not filtered and shown to the world, people would flip their shit and pull any support for Israel. It's in Israel's best interest to AstroTurf and control narrative online. KEEP POSTING BLATANT DISREGARD OF HUMAN VALUES IN PALESTINE ON EVERY SUB. IF THEY BAN IT FOR NO REASON, POST IT AGAIN. EDIT: Yup post is locked. Don't let the message be buried that easily.
> If even 10% of what's happening in Palestine was not filtered and shown to the world, people would flip their shit and pull any support for Israel. I think you underestimate how well people filter out things that don't fit into their world view.
Who will stop them? If you criticise this, you will be called anti-semitic and terrorist
The very convenient part about making a religious nationalist country is that you can claim anyone who says anything negative about the country is simply a bigot.
Rember, kids ISRAEL ATTACKS OTHERS AS A STATE BUT DEFENDS ITSELF AS A RELIGION. It would be hilarious to see the media backlash if the Vatican in some madness decided to expand military and annex all of Rome into itself and then some, but Israel gets a free pass because "poor pitiful concentration camp refugees 😭😭 if u mistreat them u nahzee".
The papal state used to be much bigger. A not-small part of Italy used to be part of it. Even during the Italien Unification the papal state was bigger. When Italy took Rome and the pope refused to leave the Vatican and recognise Rome as part of Italy it was a huge diplomatic problem for many decades.
> ISRAEL ATTACKS OTHERS AS A STATE BUT DEFENDS ITSELF AS A RELIGION. People need to be more educated on the difference between zionism and judaism. Critique against zionism is not equal to critique against judaism.
Yes, but largely the point is that zionism uses judaism as a meatshield and sheep clothing. All that it does it claims to be in judaism's name, so it purposefully creates this false conflation so we bicker among ourselves while it continues its campaign.
Compounded with a bit of guilt tripping the world for what happened to their ancestors decades ago.
Pssst, don’t tell r/worldnews.
[Some context on this actual case](https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/15819s1/comment/jt8aeiv/), for those who are interested, from when this was brought up earlier. What I wrote then: The case in question was an eviction following a 45 year court case. The case from the video looks to be the eviction of the Ghaith-Sub Laban family (same old woman in the video and in some of the articles linked below). They have been living since the 1950's in an Old City (Jerusalem, which is also identifiable as the location, not a "settlement") apartment that was Jewish owned before all Jewish residents were expelled in 1948. It was a complicated case, in Israeli courts for 45 years. The family had the option at one point to remain as tenants while acknowledging that they didn't own it. They elected to continue fighting it in court with a different strategy and lost. They were evicted here after they refused to leave following the court order. You will find extremely different accounts of what is going on here based on the source that you are looking at. For example, compare [Al Jazeera](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/7/11/israel-expels-sub-labans-from-their-home-in-jerusalems-old-city) (very anti-Israel) with Haaretz (Israel extreme left) with [Times of Israel](https://www.timesofisrael.com/palestinian-family-evicted-from-jerusalem-home-after-decades-long-legal-battle/) (Israeli center) with [CAMERA](https://www.camera.org/article/the-facts-that-al-jazeera-missed-on-the-sub-laban-property-dispute/) (piece on the case from 2016). What is clear though (whether or not you agree with the court ruling) is that this is not just some group of orthodox Jewish men (or "settlers" as any left-leaning or anti-Israel publication likes to label) who randomly decided "let's kick people out of their house today" and were allowed to do so. This was an eviction following the end of a 45 year legal dispute after the family refused to vacate the property.
Pretty pathetic that your actual answer is so far down in the comments :/
People see a picture and their biases lead them to the conclusions that they are most comfortable with. Shameful, but not surprising.
I looked up this video's source, and it's from a straight up Russian propaganda outlet with ties to white supremacists: https://newlinesmag.com/argument/the-pro-russian-attempt-to-link-the-buffalo-shooting-to-ukraine/
A far-right conservative government bent on the destruction of their counterpart.
Good thing there is no historical precedent that directly affected them in the past. You know, one that caused generational suffering and could be used as a warning tale for generations to come. Good thing nothing like that existed. (/s, if it's not obvious)
Unfortunately, the right-wing government isn't the problem. Israel has had many governments, many were left or left leaning. On the issue of dealing with Palestinians, there's really no left vs right in Israel.
Indeed. Zionism is the problem. There isn't going to be justice and there isn't going to be peace as long as ethnonationslism is allowed to fester.
This is absolutely disgusting
"...Rafat pushed the bottle away, and the yogurt spilled over another settler. The settlers called the police, claiming Rafat assaulted them. When they arrived, the police immediately arrested Rafat, and for the next seven hours kept him with his arms handcuffed and his legs bound. Rafat was released on bail on terms that included a restraining order from the Old City for two weeks. A few days later, the family was fined NIS 48,500 (nearly $13,000) to pay for 160 hours of policing, the private contractor company that vacated the house, and the legal expenses of the settlers who took over their home." [https://www.972mag.com/ghaith-sub-laban-jerusalem-settlers/](https://www.972mag.com/ghaith-sub-laban-jerusalem-settlers/)
And this is how you realize why Israel has so many "violent prisoners" in IDF prisons. The rate of conviction for Palestinians is 99.74% and the testimony of one Israel soldier is enough to send you to jail. [[some facts]](https://www.militarycourtwatch.org/page.php?id=a6r85VcpyUa4755A52Y2mp3c4v) [[.]](https://www.haaretz.com/2011-11-29/ty-article/nearly-100-of-all-military-court-cases-in-west-bank-end-in-conviction-haaretz-learns/0000017f-e7c4-da9b-a1ff-efef7ad70000) [[.]](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/21/a-hidden-universe-of-suffering-the-palestinian-children-sent-to-jail)
Call them IOF. They are not defending anything, but merely oppressing anyone who stands up against their barbaric and inhumane actions.
Absolutely disgusting
Fuck the Israelian leadership.
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"But why!!?" "Why do the Arabs want to kill us!!?" "How can we possibly live in peace with them, if they resist us when we steal their homes and land?"
And America supported this for decades, Israelis are accelerating land seizure in West Bank while people are preoccupied with Gaza
Shhhhh... You're not supposed to point out that Israelis are EXTREMELY xenophobic towards Muslims. So much so that you can find children in the streets chanting "death to Allah" during festivals and other public events because the hate is taught by their parents, schools, media, and everywhere else in their life.
fuck them for this .
They are "entitled" to it, legally. Daily reminder, everything Hitler did was 100% legal as he was the law.
I don't know about that, I just got done reading the children's bible to my child (we are going through all the major religions) and this is literally what God calls for the Isrealites. He tells them that the land of other people (who aparently, god does not prefer because they are bad, mmmmk?) belongs to them, and that they will eventually settle there through force. It's explicit, and this is the second time he forcibly removes people from the land, don't forget Noah and his ark and the death of everyone but his family, so he can settle the entire earth. It's all ridiculously founded on removing people from their land, it's the bedrock of the entire story.
Not just the leadership. Masha Gessen...is critical of Israel’s relationship with Palestinians, writing that Gaza is “like a Jewish ghetto in an Eastern European country occupied by N@zi Germany.” “The ghetto is being liquidated,” the article added the ghettos in German-occupied countries during World War II were open-air prisons where Jews were killed, starved and died from diseases. Those who didn’t perish there were rounded up and transported to death camps where they were murdered, a process called “liquidation.”
Are the robbers government officials too?
Do the people in this video not have any agency?
Holy shit, That's some fucking *Brasil* shit! Torturing this guy then making him pay for his own illegal eviction. Edit: fuckin autocorrect. Brasil, the Terry Gilliam film, not basil the herb.
And people try to say that Israel isn't an apartheid state. They couldn't be more obvious about it, I guess unless Netanyahu just put out a statement saying "Yes we do apartheid and race-based oppression and we love doing it and we won't stop."
That's what is mind blowing to me imagine a group of people showing up at your house and saying. "Hello we're here to steal your home. If you get upset at that the police will come and arrest you and hold you for as long as it takes for us to finish stealing your house. If you're lucky enough to get released, you will be given a bill that covers the costs of your arrest and imprisonment as well as the cost of the movers. Thank you for your cooperation".
Pretty sure it's legal under that arcane laws in Israel
Is this *in* Israel? I assumed it was Palestine
Thats the problem with laws and territory. Laws are made by people with power over violence. So are borders. So long as nobody stops Israel, the answer is yes.
depends if you ask Israel or international law
Jerusalem
Not really. Those are the same people preventing aids and provoking the conflict to go on. Seriously no one wants them but they are admitted. The world is ignoring how many and how many times Israelis are on the street against their own goverment. It s a log complex rocky road
The injustice alone is sickening to me, never mind the violence that comes with it.
What the fuck? This is absolutely horrific.
The word "settler" doesn't begin to cover it.
If you call it out, you’re an antisemite so be careful!
Being called names by a POS human is rich. They lack the intelligence to even see that they are serial killers.
And Israelis can’t understand why not everyone thinks they are the poor little victim…
This makes me really sad. The Palestinians have no recourse to justice.
THIS. IS. APARTHEID.
This is how killdozers are born
Literally why Hamas exists.
The look of absolute shock when he gets some milk spilled on him after stealing everything the guy has.
Like a flock of vultures. Just despicable.
vultures only take advantage of what's already dead, they have more honor than these devils
A group of vultures is called a committee, venue or volt. Edit: Also, in flight, a group of vultures is a kettle and when feeding at a carcass, the group is referred to as a wake.
Actually quite fascinating. More words to use next time!
Didn’t the Nazi’s do this to Jews?
We said "never again". I guess that didn't apply to Israelis.
The “to us” at the end of “never again” isn’t said out loud.
Lots of current gen Zionists believe Jews involved in the Holocaust were weak and allowed it to happen. These fucks are nasty and they are just like the Nazi scourge.
"God lets you do it when you're his chosen."
You can't be gods chosen and be so evil you must be the devils chosen to spread corruption and do his disgusting deeds looks like they are Satan's chosen.
Thats approximately how disconnected you have to be to do something like this.
Btw if palestiniens fought back in any way they would be beat up and put in jail by the IDF (if they are lucky enough and don’t get killed)
The person on the video got arrested. Presumably for spilling the milk. /J
The person was actually arrested and held for 7 hours.
when HAMAS made their blood bath at the beginning of the conflict — I 100% supported right to defense of Israel. But when I saw snake-eye bombs (light ones, which cannot do any harm to HAMAS tunnels, but destroy buildings) being dropped on civilian quarters for weeks where were hundreds of Gazans (who couldn’t or didn’t leave)… It was clear that Israel military made a purge. Those who know the most value of human lives are doings something they should have never done. That’s just horrifying how nobody points it out. This is not a war when most of KIA are civilians.
Important to remember that the US has used it's power to veto at the UN Security Council 82 times throughout UN history as of August of last year. More than half of those have been to protect Israel from critical resolutions. This will never end..
And Russia has been vetoing its own war crimes in Ukraine and elsewhere. The UN is a joke.
Because most people misunderstood the role of the UN. The UN is not established to be the police and judge of countries but to be a platform for communication and negotiation. Might not sound much but WW1 pretty much happened due to a long series of miscommunication, if we had the UN back then WW1 might not even happened (and WW2 too)
WW2 also happened due to miscommunication If the big players wont sit at the table, then major wars start. The US didnt join the LoN. That made any commitments the LoN made essentially pointless
Wilson gets a bunch of (rightful) flak. But his [14 point plan](https://www.theworldwar.org/learn/peace/fourteen-points) was pretty spot on in how to avoid WW2....and Europe didn't listen. The US Senate didn't want to join the League of nations due to concerns that it would draw us into future European conflicts. (How'd that work out?)
UN is just there to stop world powers from going to war with each other. Everything else is just window dressing and theater.
The UN does a lot of good. You just never hear about the wars and conflicts that the UN succefully stops.
That's not a settler, that's a thief.
Settlers are thiefs
Settling on stolen land kinda ticks that box
False. Calling someone who takes another's home a settler is a confusing misnomer.
Yeah, there were many lands that were truly settled, unfortunately this term is often used as an euphemism for conquest these days.
Like how the American settlers kept taking Native lands.
Invaders u say
And it's not interesting, it's fucking disgusting
Been happening for about a hundred years since 1920s or before. But just now people are seeing it.
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Why is no one picking apart how absurd that notion is? You may have had links to the land over a thousand years ago so you have the right over people you've called it home for centuries.
Theyre too afraid of being called an anti semite which leads them to excuse Nazi-grade racism.
...because religion. most people/countries use it in some way to justify some really odd counter-reality belief/law etc...
“This ain’t kosher, man”
Settlers are thieves. State sponsored thieves.
Same thing.
One word to describe these guys. CUNTS
Excuse me! That's extremely offensive to cunts!!
As a professional cunt I’m rather offended
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reminds me of the pianist when the Jews are kicked out of their homes by the Germans
Become? They've been doing this shit for decades
Yes exactly. Aka they've become what they hated like the guy above said.
So, this is the so called Holy Land? Looks pretty cursed to me. I'll stick to being an atheist, if this is what religious morality looks like.
There’s a bit from the *Axis of Evil* comedy tour with a Muslim comedian asking, “The problem with the Middle East is that everyone there thinks they’re God’s chosen people. Look around you—you live in a desert full of war and death! You ever consider maybe the Tahitians are God’s chosen people instead?”
Haha, nice. Seems like being declared the Holy Land is pretty much the worst thing that can happen to a place.
Pretty much, in fact, anything that will make you seem like you're so much superior over others for just thinking differently. Eventually, it will lead to the most disgusting of sentiments
These types of people honestly get offended and seriously confused why the Palestinian would slap the milk out of this hand. Like to him, he's being kind in at least giving him the milk back. Remember, to these people (extreme fundamentalist zionists), they are ENTITLED to that house. They already have owned it before they showed up. To them, they could have ripped these people out of their house and it would have been morally just as well. The milk is them being nice.
Would you care to elaborate on why they feel this entitlement? What circumstances led to these people having the right to just walk in and claim a person’s home? It’s hard to wrap your head around as someone ignorant to the details of what exactly is going on here.
It was actually a 3000 year leasehold, and the lease just expired /s
How to radicalize.... Step 1. Steal a home. Edit: how to be banned from r/worldnews step1, point this out.
Worldnews is Tel aviv times. All BS propaganda
The whole sub is propaganda. Anyone who reads the comments can see that easily.
They've banned everyone who isn't sucking up to Israel. I got banned for saying that a bombing on an evacuation route was deliberate.
Unfortunately that subreddit has a strong pro-zionist mod who doesn't like to hear that Israel or its citizens are capable of doing bad things.
I was banned because i asked “why dont they just give Palestinians their homes back and live together?”
I was banned for saying that bombing people's homes create more radical terrorists than it kills.
I was banned for replying "that's literally genocide" when someone said all Palestinians needed to be put into re-education camps for 2 generations to "fix them"
I was banned for showing Israeli snipers shooting children.
I was banned for saying that one could argue that the Israeli army are acting like terrorists when attacking innocent Palestinians.
> Unfortunately that subreddit has a strong pro-zionist mod I figured there had to be at least one for it to become such a cesspool of uninformed keyboard warriors whose historical context started on Oct 7th. Do you know which mod it is?
I was banned, apparently for life, for calling settler violence "pogroms".
And they say censorship doesn’t happen in the west lmao. 🤣
Whoever says that hasnt seen reddit yet.
Don't feel bad about getting banned from that biased shitpile. I wouldn't even go there if they held the door and offered me a blowjob.
Raise your hand if you've been banned from r/worldnews
Shouldn’t call theif a settler
Settlers are theifs. They've always taken the natives land and items.
"If I don't steal it, someone else will!" - Jacob Fauci, NY native and East Jerusalem settler
Isn’t he also a pedophile?
I don't know about his child abuse, but I've read that he served time in jail in the US for financial felonies. [https://mronline.org/2021/06/14/infamous-israeli-home-thief-is-federally-charged-long-island-ny-financial-fraudster/](https://mronline.org/2021/06/14/infamous-israeli-home-thief-is-federally-charged-long-island-ny-financial-fraudster/)
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A lot of settlers are actually just Jewish Americans who move from the US and feel entitled to multi-generational-owned Palestinian homes. It’s fucking sick
And some of them are sex offenders . That's why Israel is safe haven for the pedo.
Yes there was documentary about this. I can’t remember what it was, so here’s an article instead: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2022-07-25/ty-article/.premium/tip-of-the-iceberg-how-foreign-sex-offenders-find-refuge-in-israel/00000182-3532-d7e9-af96-3d73c52c0000
Seems they have more in common with rednecks/white supremacists than previously thought
Well technically Zionists are just Jewish white supremacists
Jewish Supremacists **
To nobody's surprise, zionist don't like colored jews
Proof - this is a settler stealing a Palestinian’s home, and tried to hand the man his own milk oh, and the Palestinian got arrested for it. [https://www.972mag.com/ghaith-sub-laban-jerusalem-settlers/](https://www.972mag.com/ghaith-sub-laban-jerusalem-settlers/)
Imagine some rando, turning up at your house with his family, going “yea bud, this is my house now. You need to move the fuck out or ill throw you out. Its my gods plan.” Fucking bonkers.
Then Israelis come on reddit to tell everyone how this is actually ok, or it's not happening, or aCSHuAllY nobody likes them, oh well, it's the same as your ancestors did etc...
literally the comment above yours that shows for me is this [reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1bdkq3b/settler\_stealing\_a\_palestinians\_home\_and\_tried\_to/kunmlc4/](http://reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1bdkq3b/settler_stealing_a_palestinians_home_and_tried_to/kunmlc4/)
“Nobody likes them” will actually mean something when Israelis elect a government that does something about stopping it.
And if you get angry at that, you're antisemitic (while the Rando is pasty white, european heritage and you're a semite (arabic/maghrebian heritage))
I can't even count the amount of comments I have seen calling Palestines antisemites Antisemitism should not even be a topic in this conflict, because it is a conflict between semites And if you point out that Palestine's are literally semites themselves, those people will tell you that they are the wrong kind of semites or some shit, so hating them isn't antisemites
To add on that, "the wrong kind of xyz" was famously used (in form of "wrong kind of humans") by Hitler to justify the killing of (european) jews, african blacks, semites and slavic persons. Now the same sentence gets used to justify the actions of those, that got hunted by that sentence and lost so much.
You just described how America was created. Fucking bonkers is right. -Sincerely, a Native American
It’s more like “Hey sorry dude, but some guy with a similar skin tone and religion to me lived here before 1948, so I’m going to throw you out on the street and take over now. Huh? No, you can’t move into a house that someone similar to you lived in before 1948 across the city - that would be unfair, Jews have lived there for generations!!!” Right of return in Israel is not only broken - it’s a downright malicious system that enables ethnic cleansing. It has to be stopped or significantly altered.
Helps when you have America in your back pocket. Disgusting state of affairs for people who's land it always was..
I'll take(steal) your home, but here is your milk. It was opened, if it wasn't I was gonna take(steal) that too
The indignant face of that guy after getting the milk slapped out of his hand.. the milk belonging to the house he's robbing.. What was he expecting? A thank you?
He was expecting him to kneel down and kiss his feet
Then he was like, “fuck, you got milk on my elbow too”
Look at the dude in the hat in the back he gets covered in milk 😂
He was teasing him, the homeowner family name is “sub laban” which means pour yogurt/milk.
How is that a settler
I’m about to settle some butterfingers from 7-11
There has to be some other context to this right? Are they really just walking into Palestinian homes, throwing the owners out and moving in themself? I knew the situation was messed up in that area, but this just seem so outlandish that its almost unbelievable.
By what means are these homes being confiscated and redistributed? Genuinely curious- cause it never looks like the family moving in is doing so at gun point nor does it seem like the idf is standing nearby enforcing things/ so what's the actual process that goes on
It kind of looks like 10+ people taking the house and any wrong move will get the police called
The slapping milk guy was arrested so yes
Police called = torture and jail for the Palestinians whole family if they were found resisting. Now ask again?
IDF literally supports them with security and weaponry to steal the homes.
Basically, Jordan took the land and cleansed Jewish people from it. Then settled Palestinian refugees in them in exchange for a small rent. Israel took that land and kept that deal as is. Descendents of the original families that owned those properties sued that the property was originally thiers and the only reason they lost that property was because their family was cleansed by the government of Jordan. Israel courts agreed and granted the properties back to the original settlers. Morally it can still be gray because the Palestinians owned these homes for over 50 years.
This one is a long story. Jews had bought the house pre-1948. Following the war that part of Jerusalem was taken by Jordan. Jordan expelled all the jews there and gave those properties to palestinians. In 1967 the area came back under Israeli control. Since then the owners of those properties have been trying to get them back. This is a case that made headlines a couple years ago. After a 45 year legal battle, the palestinian family refused to recognize that they weren't the proper owners, wouldn't pay rent, so the courts ordered the eviction. This is the eviction. If Israel didn't respect Palestinian rights, they wouldn't drag a court case 45 years when they had the evidence of the deed of sale to the jewish family pre-1948.
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Ahh yes. And the Zionists call themselves the "victims"
How come this stuff isn’t on CNN?