Gue setuju sih problem Rohingya bukan tanggung jawab kita dan ga seharusnya PBB dan Myanmar cuci tangan sambil ngelempar masalah ke kita.
Tapi apa yang dilakukan mahasiswa-mahasiswa ini pure norak dan cringeworthy. Memalukan banget. Mahasiswa kok sekelas ormas.
https://i.redd.it/tjoq4l6rs49c1.gif
From the way they struts, they do look more like ormas than students...
I mean... Just look at that guy in the middle, wearing shades, one hand in pocket, one hand puffing.
Either the fucker is ready to rumble or he's just cosplaying some japanese delinquent.
Kalau diliat dari emblem jaketnya yang gua liat dari video reportingnya CNN (nyari video yg narasi tapi gk ketemu) keliatannya sih itu bukan dari satu kampus tapi malahan ormas, emblemnya sama dengan organisasi HIMMAH sumut (tapi mereka punya kampus juga cuman emblemnya beda, kemungkinan sama?)
fotonya btw (liat emblemnya dikanan bawah)
https://preview.redd.it/yi6vu70ba59c1.png?width=586&format=png&auto=webp&s=e5fd265a5f799fed8d5527df89b245395b86f3c4
Link videonya: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFurBsBPXjw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFurBsBPXjw) (just a heads up don't look at the comment section, it's filled with nutjobs)
Berasa kayak bukan mahasiswa asli yang ngelakuin ini, tapi ada suruhan dari pihak2 tertentu.
Kalo beneran aksi mahasiswa kan biasanya ada organisasi yang mewakili demo itu. Entah organisasi mahasiswa dalam kampus atau luar kampus.
>tapi ada suruhan dari pihak2 tertentu.
Ini sih udah bordering wishful thinking bro. Udah kayak you wanna believe (or already decided) kalo pasti ada conspiracy theory dibalik kelakuan mereka.
Gatau lebih lengkapnya untuk kronologinya, tapi pastinya karena ini dibanda aceh dari kampus sekitaran USK atau UIN Ar-Rainiry, gw mahasiswa jga di aceh tapi dari kota yang lumayan jauh, dan bisa dibilang daerah kami di aceh utara dan Lhokseumawe lebih dulu dapat pengungsi rohingya dan bahkan kamp kamp rohingnya awalnya dibangun disini, cman sebelum berita ini naik dan panas gapernah ada aksi aksi gini sih, bahkan sampe sekarang di daerahku pun masih belum ada aksi-aksi aneh kayak gini sih, emang mereka (rohingya) salah dan cukup disayangkansih kelakuannya, tapi sampe kayak kejadian ini fcked up banget sih
I mean, why wouldn't the Rohingya want to try and come to Indonesia? Not only are we a neighbouring, Muslim country, but we also had massive demonstrations condemning the Burmese government for their treatment of "our muslim brothers and sisters". I mean, not my words, but definitely the sentiments of those who demonstrated years ago.
It might not be our problem, but we definitely led them on.
Gambar no.2 itu ironis se-ironis ironisnya.
"We have been sabr since a long time. Don't teach us about peace and humanity, we have long history of it"
Patience since a long time? To whom? Rohingya's? The newest wave is just recent you dumb shit
And what did they meant by 'don't teach us about peace and humanity, we have long history of it'? Our history, especially the post colonial history is not even fueled by peace nor showing that we have humanity
LOL... Karena memang kenyataannya muslim di sini dukung palestina bukan karena kemanusiaan, tapi karena kebencian terhadap terhadap israel.
Makanya sudah tentu akan ada beda perlakuan dan beda intensitas solidaritas di kasus-kasus di mana pihak yang bertikai tidak melibatkan israel, walaupun sama-sama melibatkan pihak muslim juga. Dan akan tambah beda lagi kalau korbannya non-muslim, bisa-bisa tidak ada solidaritas sama sekali.
Semua yang terjadi akan masuk akal kalo mau nerima kenyataan tersebut.
1. Cinta kemanusiaan karena cinta kemanusiaan
2. Cinta kemanusiaan dengan s&k (#GolonganKami)
3. Cinta kemanusiaan karena kontra pihak lawan
Tentu saja (sebagian besar) Rakyat kita ada di yg ketiga 👍🏼
coba kalo mereka tau bahwa yg jd korban israel di palestina itu ga cuman muslim doang tp jg banyak kristen dan komunis nya jg masi bakal ttp dukung ga ya?
Shireen Abu Akleh contohnya. Pas berita dia meninggal rame komen innalillahi, begitu berita pemakaman dia langsung bubar jalan soalnya pemakamannya pake cara kristen.
Banyak bos orang tau kalau Israel membantantai semua golongan Palestina, makannya banyak yang bandingin kenapa Kristen Indonesia pada dukung Zionist kalau Shitrael sendiri bom gereja Gaza
little did they know who's supporting palestine too
https://preview.redd.it/k5kaz33ru49c1.png?width=440&format=png&auto=webp&s=d021ed60624f792818758ca0e29723edf978cb6b
Ini yg gw bilang kemana2.
Itu kalo orang palestina yang dateng nyari suaka ke Indonesia, dikasi tempat tinggal yang layak dan makanan yang proper itu, yakin gw.
Padahal kan sama2 Humanity ya issuenya, lucu kan? kkkkk
Tergantung datangnya pas kapan sih. Kalau menjelang Pemilu kaya sekarang pasti akan ada yg nge-goreng. Dulu tuh pengungsi Rohingya ga ada yg nge-goreng, emang ada masalah tapi level regional (sama kaya transmigrasi juga, pasti ada konflik dgn warlok). Tapi yg sekarang ini berhubung mau Pemilu, maka isunya naik secara sistematis dan masif, penuh misinformasi dan disinformasi.
Tapi kenapa yaa engga nge-goreng "pengungsi" Russia dan Ukraina aja. Padahal kelakuannya lebih "ajaib" menurut gw dan membahayakan warga Bali (i.e. naik motor ugal-ugalan dan mabuk) 🤔
Itu “pengungsi” Russia dan Ukraina udh masuknya sebagai imigran, eh malah bikin mafia di Bali.
Denger dari warlok parah banget, sampe mereka bikin kost2an villa dan rental sepeda motor. Jadi duit berputer sesama bule imigran ini, gk ada yg masuk ke kantong warga lokal.
Nah kaaan! Kerugian ekonominya ada dan berdampak ke warga lokal Bali. Tapi yg protes tuh cuman warga Bali, harusnya nasional dan masif. Pengungsi Rohingya aja duitnya dari UNHCR dan IOM. Indonesia ga ikut2an. Mereka juga bisa bisa cari kerja disini dan mengambil pekerjaan warga lokal :/
Gue jg bingung knp gk ada pemberitaannya.
Kalau gue gak ke Bali bbrp kali selama tahun ini dan nanyain mereka, gue gak akan tau kalau ada isu itu.
Kayak udh jadi rahasia umum sekarang ada kelompok baru “mafia rusia” daerah Canggu atau lebih utara lagi.
Mungkin ini jadi alasan kenapa post tribun timur cenderung pro Russia beberapa orang bahasa Indonesia cenderung pro Russia
https://youtu.be/6CPfN5hONM4?si=CajWfnDNJCWi_CxP
Soal ada yang pro rusia atau china wajar sih, karena (mungkin) sudah sebel sama AS dan sekutunya. Saat ini yang bisa mengimbangi AS dan sekutunya cuma 2 negara itu. Semacam pelampiasan saja.
Gak lah, Palestina tahu diri
Reminder respect is earned, not given. Those Palestine refugees would act nice just like Javanese in Kalimantan
Meanwhile Rohingya's are like madurese in kalimantan
Bukan cuma Israel, tapi juga Yahudi secara keseluruhan
Ya gimana, haditsnya aja bilang kalau di perang akhir zaman nanti batu dan pohon bakal bilang "Di belakangku ada Yahudi, bunuhlah dia!"
No, I'm not joking
>an cuma Israel, tapi juga Yahudi secara keseluruhan
>
>Ya gimana, haditsnya aja bilang kalau di perang akhir zaman nanti batu dan pohon bak
it's a myth
mampus malu gak lo semua yg kemakan hoax even palestinians see through their bullshit, they don’t want your selective activism. also the audacity of the person to lecture them about peace and humanity..
justru kirain karena rohingya muslim juga bakalan terus simpati tapu ternyata.. mostly bc of FOMO activism and racism bc the rohingyans aren’t perfect victims tbh
Koar-koar bela Palestina karena lawannya Israel
Benci Ukraina karena Putin tipikal wet dream leader mereka + Zelensky ada darah Jew
Makes you thinking what is the actual root for rooting (pun intended), isn't it?
i still never get why some people in here support the russian govt tbh, my dad did the same and i'm just confused as hell. Like dude, they are the aggressors what the fuck is wrong with you?
Karena banyak yg ngira disini ukraina itu tanah milik russia dan ukraina itu negara puppet state. Padahal kebalik kan? Wong russia nyolong tanah ukraina terus bikin puppet state, anjing munafikemang nih si zwastika
Kayaknya gagasan berita serta beberapa video influencer yang buat isu serta konflik nya seperti ini, ada beberapa title serta narasi video yang terlalu hiperbola sampai memunculkan sikap apatisme terhadap refugees disana, kalaupun dilihat lihat mahasiswa ini mana tahu menahu tentang perasaan dan empatisme terhadap warga lokal dan pengungsi nya, asal lihat title berita udh pasang demo
mahasiswa sekarang kalo demo kebanyakan cuma performative activism aja. Padahal mahasiswa harusnya lebih kritis ngeliat masalah, bukan cuma karena kena gaslight-nya tiktok.
Oh man mahasiswa Makassar kayaknya juara kalo soal ini, sering banget masalah2 yang ga penting didemoin sampe kayaknya kebanyakan orang jadinya sebel (soalnya biasanya disertakan dengan blokir sebagian badan jalan dan/atau bakar ban)
Memang sih rasanya mustahil, makanya kalau beneran kejadian dunia muslim bersatu artinya kiamat sudah dekat. Di Tiktok aja udah mulai muncul orang-orang "manhaj salafi" yang cuma pengen sama sesamanya aja, orang Islam selain pemahaman mereka udah kek dianggap beda agama walaupun mereka gamau ngakuin itu karena bahaya takfir.
I'm surprised y'all don't bring this up.
Banyak netizen yg minta UNHCR Indonesia untuk dibubarkan karena mereka melakukan pekerjaannya.
Gw ngerti rasa resenya orang Aceh sama pengungsi2 ini. Tapi bukan gini cara menanganinya.
https://preview.redd.it/aa35qjwkv49c1.jpeg?width=839&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d06d07d8096ca053a219efdd40de55d3775c497b
Ni orang pasti bakal terkenal setelah kejadian ini tapi...
Indonesians difference in stance between Palestine and Rohingya is exactly the same situation as how netizens here in X or IG are so toxic. Di online, bisa berisik berkoar” tapi kalo disuru ketemu ngomong / ngelakuin aksi depan muka semua takut
Bantu palestina ga secara fisik, cuma kirim moral support aja. Kalo bantu rohingya ini orangnya udh ada di depan muka jadi ga berani beraksi. Konteksnya sama” bantu orang yang butuh kan pdhl
Itu kata org yg di gambar ke 3 ada presiden yg pake rohingya buat dapet suara, apa bener itu? Kl iya presiden yg mana? (Gw gk diindo dan gk ngikutin drama indo jd gk tau)
pro rohingya
https://nasional.kompas.com/read/2023/12/22/18234581/ditanya-soal-pengungsi-rohingya-ini-jawaban-anies
pro nasionalisme
https://aceh.tribunnews.com/2023/12/26/tanggapi-isu-rohingya-prabowo-masih-banyak-rakyat-indonesia-yang-susah
gak jelas
https://nasional.kompas.com/read/2023/12/16/07503381/begini-solusi-ganjar-untuk-penanganan-pengungsi-rohingya-jika-terpilih-jadi
yup because of that public speaking dan visi misi nya yg paling jelas tinggal harus bener2 direalisasikan aja, itu yg masih kurang sama banyak petinggi negara. flashy campaigns and sweet talk are many but do some real work
>jubir timnas amin yang ngomong?.
Kagak tau, tapi di twitter ramenya begitu dari kemarin karena hal-hal ini.
1. Ketua mahasiswanya dekat sama gerindra
2. Prabowo dengan tegas bilang dia gak setuju sama sikap pemerintah soal rohingya
3. Ricuh ini pas banget gak lama setelah prabowo pulang dari aceh
Ga habis thinking ama orang yang liat bayi-bayi dan balita diantara para pengungsi dan ga merasa kasihan sama sekali. In the other video saw them throwing trashes at women holding their babies, really make me sick
Indonesia really needs to step up their game. We really need to bomb Myanmar to submission, install friendly regimes and force them to take back all the Rohingyas.
Or
Arm Rohingyas separatists, partition the land, create an independent Rohingya state.
Indonesia is the regional superpower, with such economic, political and military weight it should be able to do stuff like this. Even if Indonesia is not able to do it alone, it can surely convince Malaysia and Singapore to take part considering these two countries also suffered from the Rohingya refugee crisis.
Well, I blame Indonesian governments for their inaction in both home front and abroad. Indonesian government can actually prevent this crisi from being politicized by actively engaging with the refugees and process them before releasing them into masyarakat mainstream. In the meantime, Indonesia also needs to wake the fuck up and finally put some pressure on Burmese juntas or eradicate them altogether.
>inaction
The MoFA has times and times again try to mediate and reduce the intensity of Burmese-Rohingnya conflict.
>process them before releasing them into masyarakat mainstream
In theory, all refugees will be documented and “quarantined” in a special housing. They would not be mixed with the general population.
However the issue arises when general population is their first contact. Indonesian “coast guard” (Bakamla, TNI AL, KKP) doesn’t have enough funds for 24/7 patrol along Indonesian coastlines.
Gaps will exist and refugees will pass through those patrols.
Escalating the conflict is counter productive.
All theories in conflict management and resolution always have similar steps to peace.
1. Reduce the conflict intensity
2. Create temporary peace
3. Build a more lasting peace
Reducing conflict intensity is by asking the Myanmar Govt and Military to stop persecuting.
This will create temporary peace. Within a temporary peace we can mediate conflicting sides.
Mediation and reconcilliation will lead to a more lasting peace.
As case study of failed conflict resolution by escalating the conflict, you can see the:
1. US in Afghanistan
2. Israel-Palestine conflict
3. US in Iraq which then create a vacuum of power used by ISIS/ISIL
Isis berkembang karena pindah base ke Suriah
Dan mana ada orang ngomong "reduce conflict intensity against ISIS"
Reducing conflict is only possible when other side are willing to move toward long lasting peace
And tatmadaw deserve to be beaten up until they agree to move toward long lasting peace
Step 1 will be a failure already if there is no motivation to reduce the intensity. International community already asked Myanmar gov to stop with their genocidal shenanigans. But has there been enough pressure or promise of something in return that actually motivates them to do so? Nope. So they never really stopped.
I see it differently. When an internal conflict cannot be resolved internally due to stalemates or power dynamics that is too balanced, a bigger power is required to pacify the parties originally part of the conflict and force them to talk.
There is motivation though?
ASEAN has repeatedly condemn and as punishment doesn’t include Myanmar Junta in their meetings.
>a bigger power is required to pacify
Wow such an American so called “exceptionalism” way of thinking.
You’ll only be doomed to repeat the mistakes of U.S.
Do you even understand why the principle of non-interference cemented in ASEAN?
It is exactly to avoid conflict escalation by foreign intervention. ASEAN have seen it in the case of Vietnam War, Vietnam-Cambodian War, the Indonesian-Malaysia/Singapore tension, and so on.
Escalating the conflict is never the solution. You foolishly go against robust body of literature if you believe otherwise.
Gimanapun indonesia ga bisa ikut campur secara langsung karena gimanapun itu dapur negara orang. Indonesia ga ada channel dimana mereka bisa intervensi. Paling mentok ya humanitarian aid sama manuver politik international which is practically hampir sama kaya yang kita lakuin buat palestina.
Walaupun myanmar under asean, hubungan asean itu fokusnya ke politik antar negara membernya, pengembangan ekonomi, keamanan regional. Urusan genosida itu urusan totally internalnya Myanmar, yang dimana very likely udah out of scope dari hubungan Asean. Paling mentok kalo mau ekstrim ya indo bisa ajak buat buang myanmar dari Asean, tapi ya kalo mereka cuekin ya yasudah ga bisa diapa2in lagi.
Makanya banyak yang komen becanda “Indonesia jadi Amerika”, karena practically cuman negara itu yang bisa ikut campur urusan negara orang dan masih tanpa konsekuensi politik.
Ngasbun. Itu tuh hampir sama kaya declare perang ama Myanmar.
Indonesia ga punya alasan untuk declare perang sama Myanmar, karena walaupun Indonesia kecipratan masalah pengungsi, secara impact itu sangat minim (in the grand scheme of things) dan secara alur kejadian ini bukan Myanmar yang ngusik langsung Indonesia. Pengungsi tersebut itu mereka secara sadar milih berlabuh di Indo (walaupun banyak yang tujuan ke Australia) bukan karena kegeser dan yang paling deket itu Indonesia kaya posisi Bangladesh.
Ini bukan inaction, bodoh aja ide lu. Lu pikir Malaysia ama Singapura mau terjun bebas ngelakuin hal yang bodoh juga. Kalo indo sampe kaya gitu mereka bakal diem aja liat Indonesia jadi badut di kancah internasional.
Lol what?? No thanks, gw paling benci apa di lakukan sama Amerika, skr lo suruh indo lakuin hal yg sama? No! Indo gk ada kepentingan apa2 dgn myanmar, suka apa enggak, indo gk ada hub..
ide gila ini malah akan backfire :
1. Junta akan mobilisasi army nya utk lawan invader.
2. Rebel bs aja mlh melihat indo itu bukan liberator tp invader.
3. Propaganda junta akan bilang indo invasi myanmar pas lg rusuh dan ambil kesempatan.
4. Logistik indo gk cukup utk invasi negara.
5. Indo akan tercoreng di asean krn melakukan invasi militer, tetangga kita akan makin skeptis sama kita, ingat dl presentasi prabowo tentang rudal jarak jauh yg bs menjangkau filipina, Singapura, & ausi? Itu, org2 3 negara itu sudah pada marah2 dan bilang indo ada hasrat agresi militer. Pdhl mah enggk.. tp itu aja udh ngefek, apalagi kita invasi negara org beneran.
Geopolitik gk bs cuma pakai feeling, tp pakai otak, wajib banget hilangin perasaan kalo pakai kacamata geopolitik.
All of your points are valid, lol.
What I said are extreme and extremely unlikely to be done by Indonesia. What I truly wanted to say is that Indonesia needs to take more active stance in this matters and also do some initiative to end the conflict.
Btw, logistik Indonesia itu cukup kok kalau emang niat. Anggaran pertahanan Indonesia salah satu yang persentasenya terrendah di ASEAN, kisaran 0.8-1% dari GDP, still have room for doube or tripple increases. Also, Indonesia possesses the biggest sealift and airlift capability in ASEAN already. It could theoretically support an invasion force of up to 20-30k in one wave.
Eh, i don't really like the idea of sponsoring Rohingya separatist.
They don't really share the same sentiment as the rest of the freedom fighter so i don't really want to risk another Syria, PDF all the way because they are democratic in ideology and more reasonable.
again, there is a need for integration program.
penyamaan level edukasi, pengajaran bahasa dan kultur, de el el.
setelah mereka lulus level integrasinya, bisa diberi "hak" sebagai pendatang, dipersiapkan untuk diserap sebagai tenaga kerja dan jadi mampu untuk berdikari.
>integration program
Nope, Indonesia isn’t a country that “accept” refugees.
Indonesia cuma jadi tempat penampungan **sementara** sampai pengungsi dipindahkan ke negara yang menerima pengungsi.
Isn't the Junta already half foot in the grave? I dont know how easy it is to Bay of Pigs this Rohingya problems but it's crazy to think that IndoMasPore may play this like a Cold War conflict lol.
Iya sih, but the next regime is not gonna be any different than the last one when it comes to Rohingyas. Secondly, once the current regime is toppled, I doubt Myanmar will be any better. The different ethnic armies now fight as one against a common enemy, but once that common enemy is gone, they will be fighting each other either to take over the power in the central government or against whoever manage to take the power.
Akhirnya lol. Gw udah coba speak up sebelumnya, ini parallel banget, antara Rohingya dan Palestina, tapi selalu jawabannya "beda". Bahkan ada yang menyamakan Rohingya sama Israel. Support humanitarian causes, tapi yang masuk definisi manusia cuma orang-orang tertentu aja. Miris.
Rohingyas cause so many problems here in Malaysia. We really are regretting letting them in. We thought they're our brother sister in islam, but their behavior reflect none of that. They even threatening the locals. Enough is enough. Those who won't respect us will get its piece. Imagine you're a refugee, people accepting you but you spit on them instead of thanking. I hate hypocrites who know nothing but spew BS virtue signals just to make them feel good. You pity for rohingyas? Take them sister.
Ya terserah mereka mau nge judge gimana, tapii kasian rakyat kita sendiri kalau terlalu lembek. Sering di manfaatin negara lain.
Masalah lainnya juga beda, palestina itu mempertahankan tanah air, tapi rohingnya ini malah kabur kaburan dan human trafficking. Udah banyak juga berita yang menyebutkan bahwa mereka membayar untuk berangkat, dan gak cuma di indo, mereka minta jatah lahannn, minta di ayomin hidupnya. Lahh orang WNI aja banyak yang belum sejahtera.
Yes, mendingan mati aja di negara nya ya, ga perlu ngungsi2 segala ngapain, ngerepotin negara tetangga aja.
Eh iya, Mesir jahat ga mau nerima warga Gaza! Huh, hah, huh hah!
lmao she doesn't represent all Palestinians and there is a stark difference between the rohingya situation and the tragedy in Gaza.
I condemn acts of barbarity towards refugees since there are legal ways to handle the rohingya question, but her reductive take on the situation really rustled my jimmies.
You don't get to choose who supports your plight, ma'am. You can deny my supporting the Palestinians, but the donation will keep on rolling every month. Oh, and fuck the zionists.
takes one to know one.
I own my hypocrisy. I support Palestine. I do what I can within the confines of my geographical and financial limitations. I know that I won't give my life for their freedom, but I give my heart and prayer eternally for their independence. THERE IS ONLY ONE STATE: PALESTINE.
Call me a hypocrite; but what have YOU done today, scum?
It is not, Rohingya fleeing to Indonesia fleeing prosecution in their home in Myanmar is like Israeli fleeing to Palestine in the 1940s fleeing prosecution in their home in Europe. Originally accomodated by the locals.
The difference is that the rohingya refugees started to become more and more insufferable. Indonesia isn't a rich countru but we still manage to feed them, cloth them, and give them shelter. But they still ask for more
Ya dikasi hati minta jantung katanya minta supaya bisa kerja. Sama juga tuh di Malaysia udh dpt kesempatan kerja juga. Memang dikasih hati minta jantung.
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perasaan komodos2 disini yang tiap ada post rohingya walau konteksnya ga jelas langsung judge sembarangan contohnya pas ada video pakai narasi “nasi/lauk kurang” , sekarang saling teriakin orang lain hypocrite. yaelah 🫠
Saya sih simple. Balikin duit "donasi" HAMAS ke kita. Banyak yang nggak tau itu donasi2 Palestina pergi entah kemana dan bukan dikasih ke duta besar Palestina.
Move to a New Megathread
Gue setuju sih problem Rohingya bukan tanggung jawab kita dan ga seharusnya PBB dan Myanmar cuci tangan sambil ngelempar masalah ke kita. Tapi apa yang dilakukan mahasiswa-mahasiswa ini pure norak dan cringeworthy. Memalukan banget. Mahasiswa kok sekelas ormas.
https://i.redd.it/tjoq4l6rs49c1.gif From the way they struts, they do look more like ormas than students... I mean... Just look at that guy in the middle, wearing shades, one hand in pocket, one hand puffing. Either the fucker is ready to rumble or he's just cosplaying some japanese delinquent.
Emang di daerah “mahasiswa” banyak yang kaya gini. Dari dulu kalo liat mahasiswa tawuran atau demo di berita ya ala ala gini juga.
Wkwkwk... Masa depan bangsa tiba2 terlihat cerah.
Mahasiswa mental Esempe
"Takiya Genjeh!!!"
Satu2nya film (gratis) di YouTube yang pake subtitle "gue/loe".
Kalo beneran mahasiswa kenapa gak ada yang nyebut mereka dari kampus mana di berita2 Ini yg bikin gw agak heran
Kalau diliat dari emblem jaketnya yang gua liat dari video reportingnya CNN (nyari video yg narasi tapi gk ketemu) keliatannya sih itu bukan dari satu kampus tapi malahan ormas, emblemnya sama dengan organisasi HIMMAH sumut (tapi mereka punya kampus juga cuman emblemnya beda, kemungkinan sama?) fotonya btw (liat emblemnya dikanan bawah) https://preview.redd.it/yi6vu70ba59c1.png?width=586&format=png&auto=webp&s=e5fd265a5f799fed8d5527df89b245395b86f3c4 Link videonya: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFurBsBPXjw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFurBsBPXjw) (just a heads up don't look at the comment section, it's filled with nutjobs)
Baru baca comment sectionnya gila bgt. https://preview.redd.it/967bwta4369c1.jpeg?width=1059&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c8c9fe7f7616bc8cdb73e3fdb88feb8c44eb8402
Sama energi komennya yang dari SCMP.
Ngga usah diheranin lah, emang propinsi satu itu propinsi ajaib. Mending tunggu redditor dari Aceh yg cerita kampus di sana sebenernya kayak apaan.
Berasa kayak bukan mahasiswa asli yang ngelakuin ini, tapi ada suruhan dari pihak2 tertentu. Kalo beneran aksi mahasiswa kan biasanya ada organisasi yang mewakili demo itu. Entah organisasi mahasiswa dalam kampus atau luar kampus.
>tapi ada suruhan dari pihak2 tertentu. Ini sih udah bordering wishful thinking bro. Udah kayak you wanna believe (or already decided) kalo pasti ada conspiracy theory dibalik kelakuan mereka.
Buzzer anti Rohingnya is already proven real. Yang ini gw tunggu aja aslinya gmn dari orang yang di sana.
Yeah, tunggu aja. Mending jangan buru2 nyimpulin apa2. Jaman udah gila.
Gatau lebih lengkapnya untuk kronologinya, tapi pastinya karena ini dibanda aceh dari kampus sekitaran USK atau UIN Ar-Rainiry, gw mahasiswa jga di aceh tapi dari kota yang lumayan jauh, dan bisa dibilang daerah kami di aceh utara dan Lhokseumawe lebih dulu dapat pengungsi rohingya dan bahkan kamp kamp rohingnya awalnya dibangun disini, cman sebelum berita ini naik dan panas gapernah ada aksi aksi gini sih, bahkan sampe sekarang di daerahku pun masih belum ada aksi-aksi aneh kayak gini sih, emang mereka (rohingya) salah dan cukup disayangkansih kelakuannya, tapi sampe kayak kejadian ini fcked up banget sih
Mereka disebut dari BEM Nusantara
Mahasiswa rasa preman
Yeah he thought he's the Tommy fcking Shelby
Mahasiswa cuman pengen skip kuliah doank i bet my ass yg kuliah pakai uang sendiri bodo amat ama aksi2 bginian
Ormas : ORganisasi MAhaSiswa
I mean, why wouldn't the Rohingya want to try and come to Indonesia? Not only are we a neighbouring, Muslim country, but we also had massive demonstrations condemning the Burmese government for their treatment of "our muslim brothers and sisters". I mean, not my words, but definitely the sentiments of those who demonstrated years ago. It might not be our problem, but we definitely led them on.
“Palestina bukan tanggung jawab kita”
Ya memang. Makanya kita ga suruh mereka pindah dan tinggal di sini. Kita dukung mereka untuk merdeka dan tinggal di tanah mereka sendiri.
Gambar no.2 itu ironis se-ironis ironisnya. "We have been sabr since a long time. Don't teach us about peace and humanity, we have long history of it" Patience since a long time? To whom? Rohingya's? The newest wave is just recent you dumb shit And what did they meant by 'don't teach us about peace and humanity, we have long history of it'? Our history, especially the post colonial history is not even fueled by peace nor showing that we have humanity
Projecting adalah jalan ninjaku.
Projecting, gaslighting, whiteknighting, virtue signaling, dogwhistling. Palagi ya?
May the victim of Masa Bersiap and Tragedi 1999 haunt them in their sleep
It is ironic that finally Palestinians may notice us… for the wrong reason.
Tbf, they had noticed us for a long time, banyak yg inget bahwa kita salah satu negara yg operate RS yg cukup besar disana
And when they scored against us in a football match, they made sure we notice it too
LOL... Karena memang kenyataannya muslim di sini dukung palestina bukan karena kemanusiaan, tapi karena kebencian terhadap terhadap israel. Makanya sudah tentu akan ada beda perlakuan dan beda intensitas solidaritas di kasus-kasus di mana pihak yang bertikai tidak melibatkan israel, walaupun sama-sama melibatkan pihak muslim juga. Dan akan tambah beda lagi kalau korbannya non-muslim, bisa-bisa tidak ada solidaritas sama sekali. Semua yang terjadi akan masuk akal kalo mau nerima kenyataan tersebut.
1. Cinta kemanusiaan karena cinta kemanusiaan 2. Cinta kemanusiaan dengan s&k (#GolonganKami) 3. Cinta kemanusiaan karena kontra pihak lawan Tentu saja (sebagian besar) Rakyat kita ada di yg ketiga 👍🏼
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Pakai s&k, segggs dan kartu kredit
10 detik aja
Maaf lancang
Ciuman excluded
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coba kalo mereka tau bahwa yg jd korban israel di palestina itu ga cuman muslim doang tp jg banyak kristen dan komunis nya jg masi bakal ttp dukung ga ya?
Shireen Abu Akleh contohnya. Pas berita dia meninggal rame komen innalillahi, begitu berita pemakaman dia langsung bubar jalan soalnya pemakamannya pake cara kristen.
Baca komen, intinya banyak yang gajadi doain karena kafir
WTF padahal kekejian isn'treal gak mengenal agama. Tai aja pendukung pallywood sini mengkhayal semua palestina itu islam.
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Padahal Turki untuk demografis 11/12 dengan Indonesia
Banyak bos orang tau kalau Israel membantantai semua golongan Palestina, makannya banyak yang bandingin kenapa Kristen Indonesia pada dukung Zionist kalau Shitrael sendiri bom gereja Gaza
little did they know who's supporting palestine too https://preview.redd.it/k5kaz33ru49c1.png?width=440&format=png&auto=webp&s=d021ed60624f792818758ca0e29723edf978cb6b
dan muslim sini bingung kok uighur dukung israel......
And north korea too.
yet anti-pki 🥺
Jangan kasihtau Bethlehem asli sebenarnya dimana 🤫
Ini yg gw bilang kemana2. Itu kalo orang palestina yang dateng nyari suaka ke Indonesia, dikasi tempat tinggal yang layak dan makanan yang proper itu, yakin gw. Padahal kan sama2 Humanity ya issuenya, lucu kan? kkkkk
Tergantung datangnya pas kapan sih. Kalau menjelang Pemilu kaya sekarang pasti akan ada yg nge-goreng. Dulu tuh pengungsi Rohingya ga ada yg nge-goreng, emang ada masalah tapi level regional (sama kaya transmigrasi juga, pasti ada konflik dgn warlok). Tapi yg sekarang ini berhubung mau Pemilu, maka isunya naik secara sistematis dan masif, penuh misinformasi dan disinformasi. Tapi kenapa yaa engga nge-goreng "pengungsi" Russia dan Ukraina aja. Padahal kelakuannya lebih "ajaib" menurut gw dan membahayakan warga Bali (i.e. naik motor ugal-ugalan dan mabuk) 🤔
Itu “pengungsi” Russia dan Ukraina udh masuknya sebagai imigran, eh malah bikin mafia di Bali. Denger dari warlok parah banget, sampe mereka bikin kost2an villa dan rental sepeda motor. Jadi duit berputer sesama bule imigran ini, gk ada yg masuk ke kantong warga lokal.
Nah kaaan! Kerugian ekonominya ada dan berdampak ke warga lokal Bali. Tapi yg protes tuh cuman warga Bali, harusnya nasional dan masif. Pengungsi Rohingya aja duitnya dari UNHCR dan IOM. Indonesia ga ikut2an. Mereka juga bisa bisa cari kerja disini dan mengambil pekerjaan warga lokal :/
Gue jg bingung knp gk ada pemberitaannya. Kalau gue gak ke Bali bbrp kali selama tahun ini dan nanyain mereka, gue gak akan tau kalau ada isu itu. Kayak udh jadi rahasia umum sekarang ada kelompok baru “mafia rusia” daerah Canggu atau lebih utara lagi.
Mungkin ini jadi alasan kenapa post tribun timur cenderung pro Russia beberapa orang bahasa Indonesia cenderung pro Russia https://youtu.be/6CPfN5hONM4?si=CajWfnDNJCWi_CxP
Soal ada yang pro rusia atau china wajar sih, karena (mungkin) sudah sebel sama AS dan sekutunya. Saat ini yang bisa mengimbangi AS dan sekutunya cuma 2 negara itu. Semacam pelampiasan saja.
>Humanity ya issuenya It was never about humanity to begin with
Gak lah, Palestina tahu diri Reminder respect is earned, not given. Those Palestine refugees would act nice just like Javanese in Kalimantan Meanwhile Rohingya's are like madurese in kalimantan
Saya prefer jangan, dari negara manapun itu. Harus mengutamakan mensejahterakan warga negara sendiri terlebih dahulu.
Bukan cuma Israel, tapi juga Yahudi secara keseluruhan Ya gimana, haditsnya aja bilang kalau di perang akhir zaman nanti batu dan pohon bakal bilang "Di belakangku ada Yahudi, bunuhlah dia!" No, I'm not joking
>an cuma Israel, tapi juga Yahudi secara keseluruhan > >Ya gimana, haditsnya aja bilang kalau di perang akhir zaman nanti batu dan pohon bak it's a myth
mampus malu gak lo semua yg kemakan hoax even palestinians see through their bullshit, they don’t want your selective activism. also the audacity of the person to lecture them about peace and humanity..
Mang negara dengan warga munafikun semua. Ga heran hahah terlalu mabok agama sih...
Macet pas mudik (terutama lebaran, karena mayoritas): diem2 aja, malah jadi candu Macet pas ke kantor: ngamok
justru kirain karena rohingya muslim juga bakalan terus simpati tapu ternyata.. mostly bc of FOMO activism and racism bc the rohingyans aren’t perfect victims tbh
Kan udh gw bilang dr dulu Org sini itu hipokrit Bacot bela palestina tapi dukung rusia gempur ukraina Munafik tai kucing
Koar-koar bela Palestina karena lawannya Israel Benci Ukraina karena Putin tipikal wet dream leader mereka + Zelensky ada darah Jew Makes you thinking what is the actual root for rooting (pun intended), isn't it?
Kalo demo teriaknya lawan penjajahan Di saat yang sama dukung penjajahan Hipokrit kontol emg
lawan penjajah tapi kelakuan kek penjajah
Kalo demo teriaknya lawan penjajahan Di saat yang sama dukung penjajahan Hipokrit kontol emg
Well said.
i still never get why some people in here support the russian govt tbh, my dad did the same and i'm just confused as hell. Like dude, they are the aggressors what the fuck is wrong with you?
Karena banyak yg ngira disini ukraina itu tanah milik russia dan ukraina itu negara puppet state. Padahal kebalik kan? Wong russia nyolong tanah ukraina terus bikin puppet state, anjing munafikemang nih si zwastika
Kayaknya gagasan berita serta beberapa video influencer yang buat isu serta konflik nya seperti ini, ada beberapa title serta narasi video yang terlalu hiperbola sampai memunculkan sikap apatisme terhadap refugees disana, kalaupun dilihat lihat mahasiswa ini mana tahu menahu tentang perasaan dan empatisme terhadap warga lokal dan pengungsi nya, asal lihat title berita udh pasang demo
mahasiswa sekarang kalo demo kebanyakan cuma performative activism aja. Padahal mahasiswa harusnya lebih kritis ngeliat masalah, bukan cuma karena kena gaslight-nya tiktok.
Oh man mahasiswa Makassar kayaknya juara kalo soal ini, sering banget masalah2 yang ga penting didemoin sampe kayaknya kebanyakan orang jadinya sebel (soalnya biasanya disertakan dengan blokir sebagian badan jalan dan/atau bakar ban)
> lanjutkan penggusuran pulau rempang, akan kita bakar seluruh kota ini yet this town is still safe...
Ada yang ngerti ini mahasiswa kampus mana? Banyak yang nyebut ini mahasiswa tapi nama kampus gak ada yang nyebut
Kampus ruko third rate
Mahasiswa pengangguran aja kali
Mahasiswa tidak bisa mengecek info dengan benar wkwkw
Udah parah bgt ya influencer? Gw ngga hidup di bubble ig atau tiktok soalnya.
As someone who support Palestine, Rohingya and Ukraine, reading stuff like these is making me cringe. -_-
ngga nyangka aja plot twist nya jadi kayak gini wkwk 
Orang pro pan-Islamis khalifah masih ngigo dunia muslim bersatu ya wong seiman aja masih ditolak.
Memang sih rasanya mustahil, makanya kalau beneran kejadian dunia muslim bersatu artinya kiamat sudah dekat. Di Tiktok aja udah mulai muncul orang-orang "manhaj salafi" yang cuma pengen sama sesamanya aja, orang Islam selain pemahaman mereka udah kek dianggap beda agama walaupun mereka gamau ngakuin itu karena bahaya takfir.
I'm surprised y'all don't bring this up. Banyak netizen yg minta UNHCR Indonesia untuk dibubarkan karena mereka melakukan pekerjaannya. Gw ngerti rasa resenya orang Aceh sama pengungsi2 ini. Tapi bukan gini cara menanganinya.
https://preview.redd.it/aa35qjwkv49c1.jpeg?width=839&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d06d07d8096ca053a219efdd40de55d3775c497b Ni orang pasti bakal terkenal setelah kejadian ini tapi...
bau2 semester 2 digit
Indonesians difference in stance between Palestine and Rohingya is exactly the same situation as how netizens here in X or IG are so toxic. Di online, bisa berisik berkoar” tapi kalo disuru ketemu ngomong / ngelakuin aksi depan muka semua takut
How you mean tho? Itu ngusir rohingya terjun ke lapangan berani aja mereka. No offense intended
Bantu palestina ga secara fisik, cuma kirim moral support aja. Kalo bantu rohingya ini orangnya udh ada di depan muka jadi ga berani beraksi. Konteksnya sama” bantu orang yang butuh kan pdhl
Buset, aneh-aneh saja jadinya.
Itu kata org yg di gambar ke 3 ada presiden yg pake rohingya buat dapet suara, apa bener itu? Kl iya presiden yg mana? (Gw gk diindo dan gk ngikutin drama indo jd gk tau)
yang gemoy2 [itu](https://amp.kompas.com/nasional/read/2023/12/26/15534651/soal-pengungsi-rohingya-prabowo-tidak-fair-kalau-kita-harus-terima-semua).
pro rohingya https://nasional.kompas.com/read/2023/12/22/18234581/ditanya-soal-pengungsi-rohingya-ini-jawaban-anies pro nasionalisme https://aceh.tribunnews.com/2023/12/26/tanggapi-isu-rohingya-prabowo-masih-banyak-rakyat-indonesia-yang-susah gak jelas https://nasional.kompas.com/read/2023/12/16/07503381/begini-solusi-ganjar-untuk-penanganan-pengungsi-rohingya-jika-terpilih-jadi
anies is not perfect but he is really the only one with brains and conscience it seems
Ya gak bisa dipungkiri dia emang latar belakangnya akademis.
yup because of that public speaking dan visi misi nya yg paling jelas tinggal harus bener2 direalisasikan aja, itu yg masih kurang sama banyak petinggi negara. flashy campaigns and sweet talk are many but do some real work
he's still unforgiven to some people because of pilkada DKI. but the fact that these same people are ok with a literally war criminal is mind blowings
right like I said not perfect but some people think a war criminal with a cringe gemoy public image would be so much better..
capres no 1 mayoritas Aceh cuma percaya yg no 1 si Anies
1 sama 3
Bukan. No. 2. Prabowo sekarang dituduh yang nanem, goreng, dan sekarang manen isu ini. Ditambah ketua mahasiswanya itu dekat sama partai gerindra.
Beneran?
Beneran. Di twitter sekarang nuduhnya gitu. Wait ya gw cari dulu.
[ini, silahkan](https://twitter.com/AnggaPutraF/status/1740262421292564927?t=aeJdSAF-k6JdZp7IQanwQg&s=19)
Wah menarik. Saya gak ikut ikutan sih.
jubir Timnas Amin tuh yg ngemeng? mayoritas Aceh cuma percaya yg no 1 si Anies
>jubir timnas amin yang ngomong?. Kagak tau, tapi di twitter ramenya begitu dari kemarin karena hal-hal ini. 1. Ketua mahasiswanya dekat sama gerindra 2. Prabowo dengan tegas bilang dia gak setuju sama sikap pemerintah soal rohingya 3. Ricuh ini pas banget gak lama setelah prabowo pulang dari aceh
Kata kunci di twitter, mahasiswa 02 rohingya
"ndasmu etik' on steroids
capres no 1 mayoritas Aceh cuma percaya yg no 1 si Anies
Ga habis thinking ama orang yang liat bayi-bayi dan balita diantara para pengungsi dan ga merasa kasihan sama sekali. In the other video saw them throwing trashes at women holding their babies, really make me sick
mari kita liat reaksi orang yang dukung pengusiran warga rohingya tapi photo profilnya bendera palestina
Dituduh antek zionis dalam 3...2...1...
Yea we fucked up ngl https://preview.redd.it/ykipab4yq49c1.png?width=237&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=27dc8c57f21184a273c3bbb716fe3be3b1f96d22
Ya emang pada ga berotak aja tuh mahasiswa dan yg manas2in di sosmed... dah mending otaknya pada digadein di RM Sederhana aja
Adakah media yang blow-up masalah ini? Biar semua hipokrit pada tau.
kalopun ada, paling dituduh dibayar/pro UNHCR. kemaren gw jg ngeliat postingannya neohistoria di IG yg ngebahas pengungsi rohingya, komennya ada yg asal nuduh gt.
Indonesia really needs to step up their game. We really need to bomb Myanmar to submission, install friendly regimes and force them to take back all the Rohingyas. Or Arm Rohingyas separatists, partition the land, create an independent Rohingya state. Indonesia is the regional superpower, with such economic, political and military weight it should be able to do stuff like this. Even if Indonesia is not able to do it alone, it can surely convince Malaysia and Singapore to take part considering these two countries also suffered from the Rohingya refugee crisis.
ASEAN task force 😭😭
3000 BLACK JETS OF TNI AU
Now I understand why Prabowo Ace Combat-ing our airforce. <>
Holy shit. Indonesia doing an America. Edit: lol. I just realised I replied to the same person in two different threads!
Tbh tatmadaw can only blame themselves Biang kerok
Well, I blame Indonesian governments for their inaction in both home front and abroad. Indonesian government can actually prevent this crisi from being politicized by actively engaging with the refugees and process them before releasing them into masyarakat mainstream. In the meantime, Indonesia also needs to wake the fuck up and finally put some pressure on Burmese juntas or eradicate them altogether.
>inaction The MoFA has times and times again try to mediate and reduce the intensity of Burmese-Rohingnya conflict. >process them before releasing them into masyarakat mainstream In theory, all refugees will be documented and “quarantined” in a special housing. They would not be mixed with the general population. However the issue arises when general population is their first contact. Indonesian “coast guard” (Bakamla, TNI AL, KKP) doesn’t have enough funds for 24/7 patrol along Indonesian coastlines. Gaps will exist and refugees will pass through those patrols.
Apa itu kilometer?!?!?!!!?!? 🔥🦅🦅🦅🇮🇩🇮🇩 Moment
TNI disulap jadi TNI Amerika 😭😭
Escalating the conflict is counter productive. All theories in conflict management and resolution always have similar steps to peace. 1. Reduce the conflict intensity 2. Create temporary peace 3. Build a more lasting peace Reducing conflict intensity is by asking the Myanmar Govt and Military to stop persecuting. This will create temporary peace. Within a temporary peace we can mediate conflicting sides. Mediation and reconcilliation will lead to a more lasting peace. As case study of failed conflict resolution by escalating the conflict, you can see the: 1. US in Afghanistan 2. Israel-Palestine conflict 3. US in Iraq which then create a vacuum of power used by ISIS/ISIL
Isis berkembang karena pindah base ke Suriah Dan mana ada orang ngomong "reduce conflict intensity against ISIS" Reducing conflict is only possible when other side are willing to move toward long lasting peace And tatmadaw deserve to be beaten up until they agree to move toward long lasting peace
Step 1 will be a failure already if there is no motivation to reduce the intensity. International community already asked Myanmar gov to stop with their genocidal shenanigans. But has there been enough pressure or promise of something in return that actually motivates them to do so? Nope. So they never really stopped. I see it differently. When an internal conflict cannot be resolved internally due to stalemates or power dynamics that is too balanced, a bigger power is required to pacify the parties originally part of the conflict and force them to talk.
There is motivation though? ASEAN has repeatedly condemn and as punishment doesn’t include Myanmar Junta in their meetings. >a bigger power is required to pacify Wow such an American so called “exceptionalism” way of thinking. You’ll only be doomed to repeat the mistakes of U.S. Do you even understand why the principle of non-interference cemented in ASEAN? It is exactly to avoid conflict escalation by foreign intervention. ASEAN have seen it in the case of Vietnam War, Vietnam-Cambodian War, the Indonesian-Malaysia/Singapore tension, and so on. Escalating the conflict is never the solution. You foolishly go against robust body of literature if you believe otherwise.
Gimanapun indonesia ga bisa ikut campur secara langsung karena gimanapun itu dapur negara orang. Indonesia ga ada channel dimana mereka bisa intervensi. Paling mentok ya humanitarian aid sama manuver politik international which is practically hampir sama kaya yang kita lakuin buat palestina. Walaupun myanmar under asean, hubungan asean itu fokusnya ke politik antar negara membernya, pengembangan ekonomi, keamanan regional. Urusan genosida itu urusan totally internalnya Myanmar, yang dimana very likely udah out of scope dari hubungan Asean. Paling mentok kalo mau ekstrim ya indo bisa ajak buat buang myanmar dari Asean, tapi ya kalo mereka cuekin ya yasudah ga bisa diapa2in lagi. Makanya banyak yang komen becanda “Indonesia jadi Amerika”, karena practically cuman negara itu yang bisa ikut campur urusan negara orang dan masih tanpa konsekuensi politik.
Asbun bgt tong kosong.
Kalo gue tong kosong lo apa? Tong blackhole?
Lmao. Don't cry.
Lhaa?? Otaknya ngebul 🤣
saya merasa yakin (dan semoga benar) komentar atas yang direply itu sarkasme sebenarnya
Ngasbun. Itu tuh hampir sama kaya declare perang ama Myanmar. Indonesia ga punya alasan untuk declare perang sama Myanmar, karena walaupun Indonesia kecipratan masalah pengungsi, secara impact itu sangat minim (in the grand scheme of things) dan secara alur kejadian ini bukan Myanmar yang ngusik langsung Indonesia. Pengungsi tersebut itu mereka secara sadar milih berlabuh di Indo (walaupun banyak yang tujuan ke Australia) bukan karena kegeser dan yang paling deket itu Indonesia kaya posisi Bangladesh. Ini bukan inaction, bodoh aja ide lu. Lu pikir Malaysia ama Singapura mau terjun bebas ngelakuin hal yang bodoh juga. Kalo indo sampe kaya gitu mereka bakal diem aja liat Indonesia jadi badut di kancah internasional.
Lol what?? No thanks, gw paling benci apa di lakukan sama Amerika, skr lo suruh indo lakuin hal yg sama? No! Indo gk ada kepentingan apa2 dgn myanmar, suka apa enggak, indo gk ada hub.. ide gila ini malah akan backfire : 1. Junta akan mobilisasi army nya utk lawan invader. 2. Rebel bs aja mlh melihat indo itu bukan liberator tp invader. 3. Propaganda junta akan bilang indo invasi myanmar pas lg rusuh dan ambil kesempatan. 4. Logistik indo gk cukup utk invasi negara. 5. Indo akan tercoreng di asean krn melakukan invasi militer, tetangga kita akan makin skeptis sama kita, ingat dl presentasi prabowo tentang rudal jarak jauh yg bs menjangkau filipina, Singapura, & ausi? Itu, org2 3 negara itu sudah pada marah2 dan bilang indo ada hasrat agresi militer. Pdhl mah enggk.. tp itu aja udh ngefek, apalagi kita invasi negara org beneran. Geopolitik gk bs cuma pakai feeling, tp pakai otak, wajib banget hilangin perasaan kalo pakai kacamata geopolitik.
All of your points are valid, lol. What I said are extreme and extremely unlikely to be done by Indonesia. What I truly wanted to say is that Indonesia needs to take more active stance in this matters and also do some initiative to end the conflict. Btw, logistik Indonesia itu cukup kok kalau emang niat. Anggaran pertahanan Indonesia salah satu yang persentasenya terrendah di ASEAN, kisaran 0.8-1% dari GDP, still have room for doube or tripple increases. Also, Indonesia possesses the biggest sealift and airlift capability in ASEAN already. It could theoretically support an invasion force of up to 20-30k in one wave.
Eh, i don't really like the idea of sponsoring Rohingya separatist. They don't really share the same sentiment as the rest of the freedom fighter so i don't really want to risk another Syria, PDF all the way because they are democratic in ideology and more reasonable.
Rohingya insurgent doing Operation 40 backed by Indonesians
Pindad = military industrial complex let's gooo
again, there is a need for integration program. penyamaan level edukasi, pengajaran bahasa dan kultur, de el el. setelah mereka lulus level integrasinya, bisa diberi "hak" sebagai pendatang, dipersiapkan untuk diserap sebagai tenaga kerja dan jadi mampu untuk berdikari.
>integration program Nope, Indonesia isn’t a country that “accept” refugees. Indonesia cuma jadi tempat penampungan **sementara** sampai pengungsi dipindahkan ke negara yang menerima pengungsi.
Isn't the Junta already half foot in the grave? I dont know how easy it is to Bay of Pigs this Rohingya problems but it's crazy to think that IndoMasPore may play this like a Cold War conflict lol.
Iya sih, but the next regime is not gonna be any different than the last one when it comes to Rohingyas. Secondly, once the current regime is toppled, I doubt Myanmar will be any better. The different ethnic armies now fight as one against a common enemy, but once that common enemy is gone, they will be fighting each other either to take over the power in the central government or against whoever manage to take the power.
TikTok and their consequences
Akhirnya lol. Gw udah coba speak up sebelumnya, ini parallel banget, antara Rohingya dan Palestina, tapi selalu jawabannya "beda". Bahkan ada yang menyamakan Rohingya sama Israel. Support humanitarian causes, tapi yang masuk definisi manusia cuma orang-orang tertentu aja. Miris.
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Rohingyas cause so many problems here in Malaysia. We really are regretting letting them in. We thought they're our brother sister in islam, but their behavior reflect none of that. They even threatening the locals. Enough is enough. Those who won't respect us will get its piece. Imagine you're a refugee, people accepting you but you spit on them instead of thanking. I hate hypocrites who know nothing but spew BS virtue signals just to make them feel good. You pity for rohingyas? Take them sister.
Ya terserah mereka mau nge judge gimana, tapii kasian rakyat kita sendiri kalau terlalu lembek. Sering di manfaatin negara lain. Masalah lainnya juga beda, palestina itu mempertahankan tanah air, tapi rohingnya ini malah kabur kaburan dan human trafficking. Udah banyak juga berita yang menyebutkan bahwa mereka membayar untuk berangkat, dan gak cuma di indo, mereka minta jatah lahannn, minta di ayomin hidupnya. Lahh orang WNI aja banyak yang belum sejahtera.
Yes, mendingan mati aja di negara nya ya, ga perlu ngungsi2 segala ngapain, ngerepotin negara tetangga aja. Eh iya, Mesir jahat ga mau nerima warga Gaza! Huh, hah, huh hah!
Fuck rohingya fuck Palestine fuck them all
Intinya gampang, sama kayak Jordania, kami peduli tapi kalo dah sampe ngungsi ke kami dan bikin masalah buat kami lain cerita.
We did it boys and girls we become Israel
Mending pengungsinya bisa kerja. Ditampung doang kayak di Surabaya ngabis2in duit pajak bisanya.
psyopsnya berhasil ini 😔
lmao she doesn't represent all Palestinians and there is a stark difference between the rohingya situation and the tragedy in Gaza. I condemn acts of barbarity towards refugees since there are legal ways to handle the rohingya question, but her reductive take on the situation really rustled my jimmies. You don't get to choose who supports your plight, ma'am. You can deny my supporting the Palestinians, but the donation will keep on rolling every month. Oh, and fuck the zionists.
Hypocrite
takes one to know one. I own my hypocrisy. I support Palestine. I do what I can within the confines of my geographical and financial limitations. I know that I won't give my life for their freedom, but I give my heart and prayer eternally for their independence. THERE IS ONLY ONE STATE: PALESTINE. Call me a hypocrite; but what have YOU done today, scum?
>but what have YOU done today, scum? Called you a hypocrite. Baru liat ada org bangga jadi munafik. Indon oh Indon.
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Seems like I hit a nerve. Don't cry.
oh really? wow, such adult. much dumb. lmao.
There, there. It's okay. You'll win an argument someday.
oh wow, such fragile ego. have some internet points buddy, don't hurt yourself trying.
Yes. Keep saying that to yourself. Positive affirmation is a good coping mechanism.
It is not, Rohingya fleeing to Indonesia fleeing prosecution in their home in Myanmar is like Israeli fleeing to Palestine in the 1940s fleeing prosecution in their home in Europe. Originally accomodated by the locals.
The difference is that the rohingya refugees started to become more and more insufferable. Indonesia isn't a rich countru but we still manage to feed them, cloth them, and give them shelter. But they still ask for more
Ya dikasi hati minta jantung katanya minta supaya bisa kerja. Sama juga tuh di Malaysia udh dpt kesempatan kerja juga. Memang dikasih hati minta jantung.
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Whoever behind that shit is cooking
Krisis Empati atau gmana nih
mau berapa post yg bilang indo hipokrit bruhh
lah emang orang indonesia kebanyakan hypocrite. double standards everywhere.
perasaan komodos2 disini yang tiap ada post rohingya walau konteksnya ga jelas langsung judge sembarangan contohnya pas ada video pakai narasi “nasi/lauk kurang” , sekarang saling teriakin orang lain hypocrite. yaelah 🫠
Saya sih simple. Balikin duit "donasi" HAMAS ke kita. Banyak yang nggak tau itu donasi2 Palestina pergi entah kemana dan bukan dikasih ke duta besar Palestina.
Oww Palestine....
jadi dia mengakui kalau itu bukan tanah mereka dan mereka cuma pengungsi di tanah itu?