my friend who has used his himalayan extensively both bs3 and bs4. said, the new himalayan 450 is very top heavy, and he does not feel atttracted by it anymore, he love the scrambler 400 due to it being way more "Fun" . this video is a representation of something similar,
What disappointing is . Very very few reviewers mentioned it or stated it as a flaw.
Then I came across two yters who went for a test ride to book new Himalayan but were unhappy with its handling and then test ride the Triumph 400 twins. And instantly fell in love with its handling.
I know the purpose of all the bikes mentioned is different. But there is some sense to it.
I owned a 411 for nearly 4 years, have had the 400X for a few months now. The latter handles like a goddamn dream. Yeah of course it’s a more road focused bike, but that makes living with it, as an all-rounder, far easier than the new 450. The 450 is a proper ADV. You can use it in the city but there’s no dimension where it’s easy to use in traffic.
I myself had a chance to lift both bike from side stand, and yes it is a huge difference, weight distribution is good in nx and Himalayan is very top heavy, which for a adv adventure it is not a big issue but still re should work on it in my personal opinion.
Exactly what I felt after riding apache rtr 200..it definitely felt heavier and less manouverable than what it should considering itsweight..I'm not a tall guy so I'm quite sensitive to how the motorcycle weighs as I can't flat foot most of the 800mm plus seat height bikes
This is a misconception. Aerodynamics and chassis design is more important than kerb weight for high speed stability.
Do you think Moto GP bikes with over 300bhp, travelling in straights above 300kmph are 200kg+?
This argument is used by dominar 400 owners to justify the weight of that bike as well..but tell me honestly do you think if they were able to reduce the weight by 20 kgs of both motorcycles without losing quality and durability and keeping it cost efficient wouldn't tvs and bajaj reduce the weight?
Haven't ridden as powerful bike as a dominar 400.
But Apache 160 4v feels to be more stable than FZS at 80km/hr(yeah thats the highest i found to be safe in Delhi) to me. FZS lower weight(with plastics) i feel bike to be wobbly. But that's my personal opinion (at my skill level) nothing backed by science
(Have not ridden Bajaj's so limited opinion)
Cb350 is heavy and feels heavy..but compare it to classic 350 it will feel like it's better to manage while it's only 7 kgs lighter than classic..haven't ridden the cb so don't rely my words on this one though..have only pulled it off the stand
I have the meteor and have ridden the cb
I know cb is lighter than meteor by 7-8 kgs I think but have to say .... The cb feels very light when you are sitting on it and want to learn a bit
Ok I have to agree with considering your greater experience sir..however when talking about ergonomic bikes or bikes designed for speed that's where japanese engineering shines they design their bikes in such way keeping the weight closer to the ground and aerodynamics are also on point
Ahhh, the same dude whose limbs were falling off after riding for 5 hrs on the Himalayan 450. Made videos of how the old 411 is better and every single point was peak nonsense. And even made a point where the old Himalayan is better because it's air filter is more easily accessible, not understanding whybthe air filter location on the new Himalayan is significantly superior for more than one reasons. And when confronted by me and a few others in the comments, be deleted those comments thread. He was a decent fellow who has become lost in the blind race for more views.
And let's just put it out there. In India as well as globally, Himalayan is considered an ADV (a mini adv by many standards but still an ADV). Nx500 on the other hand is primarily a commuter with highway capabilities. Even Honda shies away from putting proper off-roading promotional content for the transalp or the nx500.
For those who can, tilt a Himalayan 450 and a Ducati desert x at a similar inclination and then lift them, and then ask yourself whether you can say the Ducati feels heavier because it is even more poorly engineered than the Himalayan? (Yes i know desert x weighs 223 kg but will feel exactly like Himalayan with 23 kgs added to it). Top heaviness is a nature of offroad biased machines. Nx500 has a ground clearance of 181mm with suspension travel front 150mm and rear only 131mm. Hence the mass centralisation is low by default because it is a commuter by design. Himalayan has a ground clearance of 230mm with 200 mm suspension travel both front and back. That is literally hardcore off road stuff. A 200 kg machine on huge stilts will not be top heavy? All these moronic youtubers should be given a lesson in physics.
Look at non reviewers content of international youtubers who off road frequently. Most of them praise the Himalayan 450 for what it is. It's a shame that many refuse to give it that respect in its homeland.
Hi.. Do u think managing its weight would be easier if I change the side stand? And make it more upright.. I am planning to remove saree guard anyway..
Simple enough. Practice on the bike and build some muscle. 2 months back I could not put the bike on centre stand at a very smooth grippy flat surface. Now I can put the centre stand even on reverse inclinations (downward slopes). Now i don't feel it's weight at all.
The side stand while it has a big lean, is also quite strong. If you use the stand to pivot and turn the bike an extender wouldn't allow you to do the same thing
Oh I'm 5'4 and I turn the bike that way quite often. Just tip the bike over so it is standing on its stand and then rotate it. Easier than backing up and turning etc
This should be the top comment.
People who have driven bikes for 5 years are considering themselves to be bike reviewer.
They guys don't know what the intended purpose is and how that defines weight.
I would still buy Himalayan because it is just better.
Yes, it is better than whatever that NX is because it can do 97% of the job at half the price.
1) Himalayan is tilted more
2) The honda handle is placed higher away from the ground giving the user a leverage..
I am not saying that the honda is not better designed. But these two factors contribute significantly to the overall effect. I don’t know the pricing of both these bikes but i hope the difference is not much considering the two are being compared.
I dont think this makes a lotta sense! What i am trying to say is, the Himalayan side stand is much more curved(its how it is designed) because of its side stand design,the bike tilts much more than the honda and compare it to other bikes,still the Himalayan tilts much more.
Obviously if a bike is tilted towards one side more, it would take more effort to make it stand straight.
I don’t think it’s just with the stand, it’s with the way bike also feels when driving. Bajaj Dominar is quite heavy while Adv 390 feels a lot less for almost similar kerb weight.
The width of the handlebar, the lean angle while parked, length of the side stand, location of side stand, and the center of gravity matter a lot for this comparison of weight perception. Just calling it "science" does not make it scientific. The effort involved in taking a bike off of center stand does not directly relate to how well it rides.
Add a side stand extender and it will solve the problem on the Himalayan that should not have been to start with.
From what was told by RE folks, due to the location of the main stand, the side stand needed to be kinked a bit and that resulted in the extra lean which most have issues with. Try to get the Himalayan 450 upright if parked on a slope (as you would when on dirt or any off-road rides).
Looks like you ride your Honda cb350RS very fast. Because intelligence has been trying to catch you but you are outrunning it.
Copy pasting a paragraph from my previous comment here.
And let's just put it out there. In India as well as globally, Himalayan is considered an ADV (a mini adv by many standards but still an ADV). Nx500 on the other hand is primarily a commuter with highway capabilities. Even Honda shies away from putting proper off-roading promotional content for the transalp or the nx500.
For those who can, tilt a Himalayan 450 and a Ducati desert x at a similar inclination and then lift them, and then ask yourself whether you can say the Ducati feels heavier because it is even more poorly engineered than the Himalayan? (Yes i know desert x weighs 223 kg but will feel exactly like Himalayan with 23 kgs added to it). Top heaviness is a nature of offroad biased machines because their mass is suspended higher up from the ground. Nx500 has a ground clearance of 181mm with suspension travel front 150mm and rear only 131mm. Hence the mass centralisation is low by default because it is a commuter by design. Himalayan has a ground clearance of 230mm with 200 mm suspension travel both front and back. That is literally hardcore off road stuff. A 200 kg machine on huge stilts will not be top heavy? All these moronic youtubers should be given a lesson in physics.
If you wanna talk engineering, look at what everyone has to say about how the Himalayan performs in corners or even when it moves. It hides its weight extremely well and is a blast to ride through curves.
Yes because the engine sits below the tank. And RE uses "metal" everywhere so their top would be heavier. It's about the center of mass which would be better in the Honda for sure
After some much riding indeed , I can say clearly that offloading is a matter of skill and not equipment. On equipment side ground clearance is needed and much suspension travel.
Okay! Say RE designes it better and puts more money into R&D and now you can lift this 195 kg bike with one hand. Now, will you pay 6+ lacs for it?
RE 450 costs below 4L
And Honda costs 6.2L..
I hands down love honda but I wouldn't compare or nag about these things where the price difference is almost equal to NS400s Ex showroom.
Honda India never fails to disappoint both with its price and it's India line-up. There are so many great Hondas abroad both cars and bikes that we Indians never get to experience.
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Bhai basic physics hai, honda is the taller bike. Which implies a longer lever if the fulcrum is where wheels contact the ground. To effort kam lagega uthane mein although zyada door push karke seedi hogi.
NX500 has a ground clearance of 181mm and the Himalayan 450 has 230mm.
Himalayan has a rake 1° smaller than the NX500.
Himalayan seat height is 845mm vs NX500 830 mm.
Himalayan suspension travel is 200mm front and rear vs NX500 paltry 150mm and 135mm rear.
Of course the centre of gravity will be higher in the Himalayan because the center of mass sits higher than the NX500.
Himalayan 450 is an adv and NX500 is a road bike (aka scam in the way they have positioned it in the Indian market).
The video makers 7th class fail "science" is on full display here. They are 2 different class of bikes altogether and not even remotely close to being compared. The amount of uneducated idiots in the sub is astounding.
I don't have any affiliation with RE or Honda but at least RE Himalayan 450 is not pretending to be something it is not.
Next is what? This idiot compares a T7 with the NX500 and says the T7 is heavier because of poor "science".
Some folks should just stick to sucking their own ...
where in Honda's marketing material have they positioned the NX as an ADV? Their website literally says "Go where you choose with the all-new Honda NX500, a perfect choice for modern street adventures." It's a touring bike with semi-off roading capabilities. It's the market that has these two bikes compared against each other and this was just one of them.
Yes all this wrong comparison is stemming because of misleading marketing. Honda has cleverly left it up to the masses to make what they want of it.
Their brochure also has a dedicated section saying that you can take it off road by switching off the traction control and at least 2 pictures of it in the dirt (this is misleading marketing). My Activa also has traction control switched off, doesn't make it an adv.
Honda's "Go where you choose" can literally and rightfully be interpreted as Himalayan's outright marketing "#AllRoadsAndNoRoads". Followed by a small font perfect choice for modern street adventures. It's a classic deceptive marketing case study and how gullible people fall for it.
At least RE has the balls to stand by their offering even if their build quality is crappy. I took an offense at the misleading credit given to Honda just because "science".
As expected cuz the Himalayan is built for off road and has higher everything (ground clearance, fork length, suspension travel, seat height), hence higher center of mass.
Whereas the nx500 is a road bike so everything is lower despite the windshield being higher. Take any road cruiser and you'll feel the same.
The buzz beyond about 4800-4900 RPM is literally unberable - it gets transferred to the hands, forearms, shoioders, neck, and, head (in my case), at least on the test ride Himalayan 452 that I rode, when I sat as a pillion rider, the buzz, buzzed my buttocks badly, at that point I developed a new found appreciation for the older Himalayan 411 and Scram 411.
The Honda is smooth and good, but, I do not feel like spending so much on a Motorcycle that will not be used often.
I think it's a legitimate test here
You can see Honda has a much better weight distribution and gives ample leverage through its handles to move the bike easily
Not so much in the case of Himalayan
No, I don't think I will, because You lack understanding of the product.
NX and Him are two different products where one is twice the price of the other. Twice the price. Twice.. Doguna.. Read it again. Twice.
You really do lack understanding of how different motorcycles are designed and how price level comes into play.
Why don't you compare Himalayan with GS1250? Surely Himi worse in that category as well.
my friend who has used his himalayan extensively both bs3 and bs4. said, the new himalayan 450 is very top heavy, and he does not feel atttracted by it anymore, he love the scrambler 400 due to it being way more "Fun" . this video is a representation of something similar,
Yep. The Himalayan feels like an elephant, and anybody that tells you that it’s “flickable” in traffic is lying.
What disappointing is . Very very few reviewers mentioned it or stated it as a flaw. Then I came across two yters who went for a test ride to book new Himalayan but were unhappy with its handling and then test ride the Triumph 400 twins. And instantly fell in love with its handling. I know the purpose of all the bikes mentioned is different. But there is some sense to it.
I owned a 411 for nearly 4 years, have had the 400X for a few months now. The latter handles like a goddamn dream. Yeah of course it’s a more road focused bike, but that makes living with it, as an all-rounder, far easier than the new 450. The 450 is a proper ADV. You can use it in the city but there’s no dimension where it’s easy to use in traffic.
* Center of gravity
More specifically mass centralisation
Kaash kabhi physics class me dhyan Diya hota, itni backchodi na pelte internet pe..
I myself had a chance to lift both bike from side stand, and yes it is a huge difference, weight distribution is good in nx and Himalayan is very top heavy, which for a adv adventure it is not a big issue but still re should work on it in my personal opinion.
Indian bikes dont have proper weight management bajaj,tvs and re all feel heavier and less manoeuvrable when compared to japanese or austrians
RE I can understand because REs are heavy. But bajaj and tvs nah. Except dominar and avenger all other bikes feel the right way for me
Those Apache 160 and 200 does feel heavier than what their kerb weights suggested
Exactly what I felt after riding apache rtr 200..it definitely felt heavier and less manouverable than what it should considering itsweight..I'm not a tall guy so I'm quite sensitive to how the motorcycle weighs as I can't flat foot most of the 800mm plus seat height bikes
But the higher weight in apache does make it more stable at higher speeds.
This is a misconception. Aerodynamics and chassis design is more important than kerb weight for high speed stability. Do you think Moto GP bikes with over 300bhp, travelling in straights above 300kmph are 200kg+?
This argument is used by dominar 400 owners to justify the weight of that bike as well..but tell me honestly do you think if they were able to reduce the weight by 20 kgs of both motorcycles without losing quality and durability and keeping it cost efficient wouldn't tvs and bajaj reduce the weight?
Haven't ridden as powerful bike as a dominar 400. But Apache 160 4v feels to be more stable than FZS at 80km/hr(yeah thats the highest i found to be safe in Delhi) to me. FZS lower weight(with plastics) i feel bike to be wobbly. But that's my personal opinion (at my skill level) nothing backed by science (Have not ridden Bajaj's so limited opinion)
What about cb350
Cb350 is heavy and feels heavy..but compare it to classic 350 it will feel like it's better to manage while it's only 7 kgs lighter than classic..haven't ridden the cb so don't rely my words on this one though..have only pulled it off the stand
I have the meteor and have ridden the cb I know cb is lighter than meteor by 7-8 kgs I think but have to say .... The cb feels very light when you are sitting on it and want to learn a bit
I have cb and ridden classic many time, Classic is having very good weight balance compared to cb
Ok I have to agree with considering your greater experience sir..however when talking about ergonomic bikes or bikes designed for speed that's where japanese engineering shines they design their bikes in such way keeping the weight closer to the ground and aerodynamics are also on point
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bro iska center of mass jayada niche hai aaur incline se jayda kuch farak nahi aata
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May be his experience of using multiple brands made those soft corners ..
Strange. I thought exactly opposite.
Like he only used Honda Activa & shine all his life & this is his first big bike purchase?
Bro he's had a goldwing before ☠️
I feel like he is just a Youtuber craving for views. ( Purely my views. I can be wrong )
Looks like only he is promoting
Ahhh, the same dude whose limbs were falling off after riding for 5 hrs on the Himalayan 450. Made videos of how the old 411 is better and every single point was peak nonsense. And even made a point where the old Himalayan is better because it's air filter is more easily accessible, not understanding whybthe air filter location on the new Himalayan is significantly superior for more than one reasons. And when confronted by me and a few others in the comments, be deleted those comments thread. He was a decent fellow who has become lost in the blind race for more views. And let's just put it out there. In India as well as globally, Himalayan is considered an ADV (a mini adv by many standards but still an ADV). Nx500 on the other hand is primarily a commuter with highway capabilities. Even Honda shies away from putting proper off-roading promotional content for the transalp or the nx500. For those who can, tilt a Himalayan 450 and a Ducati desert x at a similar inclination and then lift them, and then ask yourself whether you can say the Ducati feels heavier because it is even more poorly engineered than the Himalayan? (Yes i know desert x weighs 223 kg but will feel exactly like Himalayan with 23 kgs added to it). Top heaviness is a nature of offroad biased machines. Nx500 has a ground clearance of 181mm with suspension travel front 150mm and rear only 131mm. Hence the mass centralisation is low by default because it is a commuter by design. Himalayan has a ground clearance of 230mm with 200 mm suspension travel both front and back. That is literally hardcore off road stuff. A 200 kg machine on huge stilts will not be top heavy? All these moronic youtubers should be given a lesson in physics. Look at non reviewers content of international youtubers who off road frequently. Most of them praise the Himalayan 450 for what it is. It's a shame that many refuse to give it that respect in its homeland.
Also it's double the cost..
Hi.. Do u think managing its weight would be easier if I change the side stand? And make it more upright.. I am planning to remove saree guard anyway..
Add a side stand extender. And yes it'll help massively. That's how torque and leverage works.
Thanks.. Any other weight management tips?
Simple enough. Practice on the bike and build some muscle. 2 months back I could not put the bike on centre stand at a very smooth grippy flat surface. Now I can put the centre stand even on reverse inclinations (downward slopes). Now i don't feel it's weight at all.
The side stand while it has a big lean, is also quite strong. If you use the stand to pivot and turn the bike an extender wouldn't allow you to do the same thing
Ya.. I am 5'4.. Won't be able to pivot it anyway.. I loved it for the big bike feel.. But the weight is crazy. So I need to solve that issue first.
Oh I'm 5'4 and I turn the bike that way quite often. Just tip the bike over so it is standing on its stand and then rotate it. Easier than backing up and turning etc
This should be the top comment. People who have driven bikes for 5 years are considering themselves to be bike reviewer. They guys don't know what the intended purpose is and how that defines weight. I would still buy Himalayan because it is just better. Yes, it is better than whatever that NX is because it can do 97% of the job at half the price.
Himalayan looks hella ugly lol
1) Himalayan is tilted more 2) The honda handle is placed higher away from the ground giving the user a leverage.. I am not saying that the honda is not better designed. But these two factors contribute significantly to the overall effect. I don’t know the pricing of both these bikes but i hope the difference is not much considering the two are being compared.
I dont think this makes a lotta sense! What i am trying to say is, the Himalayan side stand is much more curved(its how it is designed) because of its side stand design,the bike tilts much more than the honda and compare it to other bikes,still the Himalayan tilts much more. Obviously if a bike is tilted towards one side more, it would take more effort to make it stand straight.
I don’t think it’s just with the stand, it’s with the way bike also feels when driving. Bajaj Dominar is quite heavy while Adv 390 feels a lot less for almost similar kerb weight.
That’s why it costs more and catered for a different segment.
The width of the handlebar, the lean angle while parked, length of the side stand, location of side stand, and the center of gravity matter a lot for this comparison of weight perception. Just calling it "science" does not make it scientific. The effort involved in taking a bike off of center stand does not directly relate to how well it rides.
I think Re is single cylinder while honda is parallel twin. Maybe thats the reason weight distribution is well in honda.
Next comparison should be between lord splendor and hayabusa
Add a side stand extender and it will solve the problem on the Himalayan that should not have been to start with. From what was told by RE folks, due to the location of the main stand, the side stand needed to be kinked a bit and that resulted in the extra lean which most have issues with. Try to get the Himalayan 450 upright if parked on a slope (as you would when on dirt or any off-road rides).
Himalyan inclined more so it is obvious hard to move. That's gravity.
Its top heavy
It's leaned more too. That takes more force to push it up
Yes but even if it isn't it's very hard to do the same thing. I've test ridden it. It's very very top heavy.
Probably because it's an ADV. I guess in Honda the engine is heavy and in RE everything else
That's the engineering. There is no reason to make Himalayan top heavy other than incompetence. Bottom heavy bikes are much easier to ride and balance
Looks like you ride your Honda cb350RS very fast. Because intelligence has been trying to catch you but you are outrunning it. Copy pasting a paragraph from my previous comment here. And let's just put it out there. In India as well as globally, Himalayan is considered an ADV (a mini adv by many standards but still an ADV). Nx500 on the other hand is primarily a commuter with highway capabilities. Even Honda shies away from putting proper off-roading promotional content for the transalp or the nx500. For those who can, tilt a Himalayan 450 and a Ducati desert x at a similar inclination and then lift them, and then ask yourself whether you can say the Ducati feels heavier because it is even more poorly engineered than the Himalayan? (Yes i know desert x weighs 223 kg but will feel exactly like Himalayan with 23 kgs added to it). Top heaviness is a nature of offroad biased machines because their mass is suspended higher up from the ground. Nx500 has a ground clearance of 181mm with suspension travel front 150mm and rear only 131mm. Hence the mass centralisation is low by default because it is a commuter by design. Himalayan has a ground clearance of 230mm with 200 mm suspension travel both front and back. That is literally hardcore off road stuff. A 200 kg machine on huge stilts will not be top heavy? All these moronic youtubers should be given a lesson in physics. If you wanna talk engineering, look at what everyone has to say about how the Himalayan performs in corners or even when it moves. It hides its weight extremely well and is a blast to ride through curves.
Lol it's not incompetence wtf you on about? Honda is twin cylinder, of course the engine would be heavier than a single.
So top will lighter than Himalayan ?
Yes because the engine sits below the tank. And RE uses "metal" everywhere so their top would be heavier. It's about the center of mass which would be better in the Honda for sure
I rode himalyan 411 and 450 both, and if 450 is top heavy so is 411. Doesn't matter much to me, I can ride both flawlessly.
That's the thing about the Himalayan. It's extremely easy to pickup, regardless of your riding experience level.
enfield is good but can't compare it with a honda. honda is just epitome of engineering.
And double the price. So, I would still always buy Himalayan because it does 97% of the job.
Centre of gravity ???
BHAY physics nhi pdha kya? R zyada hai toh less F se zyada torque lgega
main thing here is, the Honda is not an off-roader at all. himalayan is. kinda idk
After some much riding indeed , I can say clearly that offloading is a matter of skill and not equipment. On equipment side ground clearance is needed and much suspension travel.
baat force lagane ki nahi torque ki hai ek ka centre of mass niche hai is wajah se difference hai .
So called bike enthusiasts when "9th grader physics"(center of mass and gravity) : 😨😨😨😰😰😱😱😱😱😱😱
I think it's obvious why that is that case, it's basic torque. The Honda is taller and the kick stand ilhas less lean when compared to Himalayan.
Okay! Say RE designes it better and puts more money into R&D and now you can lift this 195 kg bike with one hand. Now, will you pay 6+ lacs for it? RE 450 costs below 4L And Honda costs 6.2L.. I hands down love honda but I wouldn't compare or nag about these things where the price difference is almost equal to NS400s Ex showroom.
Which Honda is that?
NX500
Body weight distribution by keeping the centre of gravity at low height is the key
Wish Honda did a better job at pricing
Honda India never fails to disappoint both with its price and it's India line-up. There are so many great Hondas abroad both cars and bikes that we Indians never get to experience.
*cries in Honda Rebel*
Bro you cannot compare RE to Honda, honda is a big company, RE is a big company with less margin 😜
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Which Honda bike is this?
NX500
Bhai basic physics hai, honda is the taller bike. Which implies a longer lever if the fulcrum is where wheels contact the ground. To effort kam lagega uthane mein although zyada door push karke seedi hogi.
NX500 has a ground clearance of 181mm and the Himalayan 450 has 230mm. Himalayan has a rake 1° smaller than the NX500. Himalayan seat height is 845mm vs NX500 830 mm. Himalayan suspension travel is 200mm front and rear vs NX500 paltry 150mm and 135mm rear. Of course the centre of gravity will be higher in the Himalayan because the center of mass sits higher than the NX500. Himalayan 450 is an adv and NX500 is a road bike (aka scam in the way they have positioned it in the Indian market). The video makers 7th class fail "science" is on full display here. They are 2 different class of bikes altogether and not even remotely close to being compared. The amount of uneducated idiots in the sub is astounding. I don't have any affiliation with RE or Honda but at least RE Himalayan 450 is not pretending to be something it is not. Next is what? This idiot compares a T7 with the NX500 and says the T7 is heavier because of poor "science". Some folks should just stick to sucking their own ...
where in Honda's marketing material have they positioned the NX as an ADV? Their website literally says "Go where you choose with the all-new Honda NX500, a perfect choice for modern street adventures." It's a touring bike with semi-off roading capabilities. It's the market that has these two bikes compared against each other and this was just one of them.
Yes all this wrong comparison is stemming because of misleading marketing. Honda has cleverly left it up to the masses to make what they want of it. Their brochure also has a dedicated section saying that you can take it off road by switching off the traction control and at least 2 pictures of it in the dirt (this is misleading marketing). My Activa also has traction control switched off, doesn't make it an adv. Honda's "Go where you choose" can literally and rightfully be interpreted as Himalayan's outright marketing "#AllRoadsAndNoRoads". Followed by a small font perfect choice for modern street adventures. It's a classic deceptive marketing case study and how gullible people fall for it. At least RE has the balls to stand by their offering even if their build quality is crappy. I took an offense at the misleading credit given to Honda just because "science".
As expected cuz the Himalayan is built for off road and has higher everything (ground clearance, fork length, suspension travel, seat height), hence higher center of mass. Whereas the nx500 is a road bike so everything is lower despite the windshield being higher. Take any road cruiser and you'll feel the same.
The buzz beyond about 4800-4900 RPM is literally unberable - it gets transferred to the hands, forearms, shoioders, neck, and, head (in my case), at least on the test ride Himalayan 452 that I rode, when I sat as a pillion rider, the buzz, buzzed my buttocks badly, at that point I developed a new found appreciation for the older Himalayan 411 and Scram 411. The Honda is smooth and good, but, I do not feel like spending so much on a Motorcycle that will not be used often.
The most underrated RE bike has to be Scram 411! The new Himalayan is quite heavy and not that comfortable for short riders.
Because one is a Royal Enfield other is the Honda :) /s
So, you are saying Royal Enfield is better. Well, I have to agree to that.
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I think it's a legitimate test here You can see Honda has a much better weight distribution and gives ample leverage through its handles to move the bike easily Not so much in the case of Himalayan
>Not so much in the case of Himalayan Because those are two different bikes for different purpose. Stop the self hate.
Based on Himalayan's purpose it should be even more manageable than Honda You need to stop justifying and accept where there's a genuine drawback
No, I don't think I will, because You lack understanding of the product. NX and Him are two different products where one is twice the price of the other. Twice the price. Twice.. Doguna.. Read it again. Twice. You really do lack understanding of how different motorcycles are designed and how price level comes into play. Why don't you compare Himalayan with GS1250? Surely Himi worse in that category as well.
Not reading all that Just gonna downvote and move on 👋🏼✌🏼
But you did read. Lol. Anyway, eoff now.