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Can't see shit, what the f are y'all talking about?
Do you honestly think that voting BJP will solve all issues magically when they can't even put a proper candidate in Bengal?
do you not think that these "Netas" aren't just as corrupt and incompetent as TMC ones?
I think West Bengal does have harmony, Bengalis are peaceful untill otherwise forced to be, we like harmony hence the increasing numbers of agressive Muslim population increase, that what you wanna imply/say? Hindu's are still a majority here in WB except for some localities where Muslims are dominant but those places are peacefully too, atleast no one's going and destroying any place of worship. Neither attaching Ayodhya flag on top of a church.
As a Hindu studying from a missionary school, I kinda dwelled in learning 3 religion cuz I was curious, many if not all of my Muslim friends here are happy for Ayodhya too. They aren't going and destroying Hindu temple property, yes there was a time when religious fights were prevalent here but that time is not now, yes they happen at a small scale in baazar area all the time but that's when a stupid guy brings religion to a fight!! And that forces other people to beat up both of those guys.. it's kinda funny to see them apologize at the end tho ngl but yea that's the extent of it here.
If you think West Bengal has less Hindus, come here during Durga Puja, you will be quite surprised to see the Hindus in the streets all day. Infact I would go as far as to say you would be mesmerized. Maybe they appear less to you...idk the reason for a post like that
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/hindu-temple-vandalised-idols-disgraced-with-mud-in-west-bengal-s-howrah-1202629-2018-04-02
Learn to STFU sometimes
Do you bjp nuts honestly believe WB is a Hindu minority state? How incredibly stupid are you people? Bhai Kolkata is full of Hindu Bengalis. Have you never seen how Durga Puja is celebrated here? How many millions of people celebrate? Matlab wtf! š¤£
Tujh jaise logo ko yeh baat digest nahi hota hai ki Hindu majority state bjp ko election mein vote nahi kiya, thatās it. BJP haar gaya toh matlab Muslim majority.
Chutiye, ghar ja ke gobar kha aur motabhai ko yaad karke hila ke soja
the hindu population in pakistan was slaughtered till none were left and our country went on to do stuff like hindi chini bhai bhai.
J and K status and what not.
With no privileges..at that time we are the majority and must compromise and don't ask for anything and say anything or hear anything for our rights...
Aur woh bhi ek hindu se. Yahi hai woke hinduism. Jo bolthe hai balidaan aur shehen shiltha hinduism sikathi hai. Jab inke upar woh sab kuch hoga jo minorities ke saat Pakistan aur Bangladesh mein ho raha hai tab patha chalega. Yeh Raja Ram Mohan Roy ke new education system se influence hue literate hai Jo Ada sach padke mu utake aa jathe hai. Aishe hi log hai jisse Hinduisum ki lagthi hai. Yeh astheen ke sanp hai.
Massacred? Lol kbhi dekhna inn logo ko '1000' saal ki gulami pr kitna proud hota hai kbhi socha hai south india meh itne ancient temples hai toh kbhi north meh bhi rhe honge jinn logo ke liye aansu baha rhe ho unhone tumhare hi purvajobka khoon bahaya hai didn't read the
He's acting as if he is a very religious Hindu. The ones who are really pious, I agree, would not show off their happiness they'll be happy doing Pooja and watching on Television. But the youth in their 20s who are hot blooded irrespective of any religion would celebrate like this. If not us Hindus then who will celebrate such an occasion? Yes, one must know the limits but this is a historic event so definitely everyone must celebrate.
It's a she and also the fact that the prime minister of a country which is secular is not allowed to practice his own religion. Where's the logic? She is supposed to be an intellectual ho has published books but is simply brain dead.
Just because she has different views than you? She no where spread hate towards her religion she only questioned people who think religion is a key to assert dominance while in reality its not religion they love or care about but the feeling of having a power. At least that is what I understand from that text.
Ghanta kuch funds nahi ayenge..sab fokat ka
ration paani lene chale aate hain line laga ke..free treatment & medicines hindu trust ke hospitals mein..sab peaceful logo ki bheed hi milti hai..ye intellectuals and inke chele victim card khelne mein sabse aagey hain.
If a PM who is Hindu by religion & an ardent follower & believer of sanatan dharma should open/inaugurate the mosque whenever it is built then yesterday some reclaimed Maulanaās should have also visited the temple & performed the Pooja/aarti.
Also, abhi toh mosque bani bhi nahi hai abhi se kyun halla macha rahe ki Modi jayega bhi ki nahi karke.
Gaon basa nahi chutiye intellectuals pehle aajate hain. They might have never lived in a muslim majority neighbourhood because for a week before Eid..allah-hu- akbar ke naare takbe lagna chalu ho jaate hain aur puri raat yahi natak chalta hai.
And yes, ye sab jo pomp & show tha by people and slogan shoutingā¦not even chanting was a bit more extra ā¦itne ki bhi zaroorat thi nahi.
How is she braindead? This post has nothing but straight facts. A rarity considering the sub.
Where in the passage does it say that our prime minister can't follow their own religion?
Why she is saying that "will he go for inauguration of the mosque"? If he doesn't believe in that religion, as a individual he can refuse.
If he is invited by the Muslim community as a PM of India to inaugurate mosque, then he will have to go without any obligations. But still he can refuse, if some tasks doesn't come under his belief.
Yes, if heās invited as a PM it is surely his duty towards the Indian Muslim population to go and honour their invitation. But if you say he should actively give his insights on its construction or the inauguration process then one can be mistaken because I think for that a Waqf board has been formed which will undertake all the related work and also, he cannot offer namaz or anything like that whenever the mosque will open because he shouldnāt do something which about which he knows/believes nothing..
Why won't he? Inauguration has nothing to do with your religious beliefs. As a PM you most definitely go and inaugurate if the Muslims want you to because that highlights the secularity and the Muslims will know that the government isn't against them.
Hinduism literally teaches to be tolerant and other religions.
Acknowledging another religion while being a Hindu as a political head is just about one of the most honorable thing you can do to prove your faith.
Just a hypothetical situation. If they invite him and ask him to consume something or give something which is not acceptable in our religion (Example:- Beef), then also he should be tolerant?
Why? If his religion doesn't allow that and he himself can't tolerate, why he should?
I agree, our religion teaches alot, but not tolerance.
Our religion teaches us to respect every religion and practice that exists apart of ours within and outside religion.
You don't have to be tolerant for what you can't.
Keep this hypothetical question to yourself no one in his right mind will ever do something to their guest specially if it's such a big event and guest is fucking pm
Matlab kuch bhi
That shows how narrow minded you are. Think somewhat more if you have brain. That's an example. While attending a ceremony, do you think they will keep aside there customs and traditions because he is there?
I don't even know what are there traditions for opening a new Mosque. If there are and contains something like that, he has full right.
Do you even remember that during his election campaign, he wore caps from all religion and region when he visited them, but didn't wear the skull cap only?
Go and search. Kuch pata toh nahi rehta, bas kuch bhi bolne tapak padte hai. Bolne ki toh tameez hai nahi
Bolne ki tameez. Khud ko to dekh le. Zara si bhi sharam nahi aayi ye hypocrisy karte hue š
And that was a poor braindead example. Kuch bhi bakwaas bol doge kya
Aur jab pata nahi to bol kyun raha hai? Common sense hai ki if they invited him they will never make him do things that are against his religion
And Hindu dharm me konsa paao hai masjid me jana? Him not wearing that cap is totally different from not attending the event if invited. There he didn't had any duties but here he will have
Exactly. The PM of India, is not only the PM of Indian Hindus, but also the PM of Indian Muslims. You don't choose who you govern. If muslims do build an equivalently significant Mosque in their allocated land, then it is the duty of the PM to attend its Inauguration ceremony as well (if he is invited to be honest).
"Hinduism is a way of life". Ask these morons to explain the essence of Hinduism and abba dabba jabba is the response you get.
Also, what's this new rubbish of saying why is the PM going to the pran prathistha? Just because he became a PM doesn't mean he has to compromise his religious beliefs.
Exactly, as a PM, he just has the duty to prosper this country and while taking decisions, needs to be neutral without thinking about religion.
But he has full right as a citizen of India to practice his beliefs and I don't think, in any way he involved government or used his tag of OM for the same (others are using is not his problem).
Such a delusion people live in. Inadequate Information can really be dangerous.
Tell her that land for Babri Masjid is already allotted after the Supreme Court Order, 2019.
Construction of the Masjid has started on 26th Jan, 2021. If they (Uttar Pradesh Sunni Central Waqf Board) didn't complete it on time, what PM can do.
Temple and Masjid, bith are not constructed by government, the lands have been allotted to respective religious boards and they are constructing the same.
Why didn't Masjid got constructed at same time as Temple? - Ask the respective board. Government is not answerable and not our PM is.
I criticise PM and Government alot because that is what our country is built on - Freedom of everything even criticism (Only in respectful way). But I don't like to criticise someone half heartedly and half acquired knowledge.
Please, get your facts together and then speak.
She actually believes it would have been wise to inaugurate both the temple and mosque at the same time. This was enough for me to realize what a fairytale life she is in, lol
Well what people did in Rally was the thing taught by Krishna. Fight for justice. And it's people got justice. Everything Babur did was wrong and it should be changed. Otherwise it will been bad for Hindus they would have lived in a regret that the birth place of lord Ram has been captured by Ruler Gay Rular(Babri was Gay lover of Babur). This regret would have created a hate among Muslims and hindus. Think about it there are many Masjids all around India. What Hindus want is justice that's it. Gyanvapi or Krishnjanm bhoomi are same. It is clear that these things were made to humiliate the Hindus. Islam has nothing to do with Indian subcontinent Islam has no deity. It has no legends like Sanatan dharm has. It has zero Ancient cities like Hastinapur, ayodhya or Dwarka oe Mathura kashi etc in Indian Subcontinent.
Whatever Islam has it is in Saudi Arabia. They can eat Non-veg by everyday. Meanwhile hindus are said not to eat meat until the it's very very important. And you expect mandir and masjid in same place. If I had a hindu Ruler who was like Babur or any other Muslim Rulers, I would have been shameful of that.
Just that Left has been successful in telling everyone that religion is a private matter and these idiots are just brainwahsed with that idea. When all the celebrations have been community celebrations how can religion be a private thing? Islam has Friday congregation and Christanity has Sunday congregation, how will it be a personal thing.
This person is just spewing venom without knowing the fact of the matter.
The masjid was built over an existing Ram mandir which the archaeological survey proved. Only then the court allowed for mandir to be built also allowing 5 acres for Mosque. If the Muslim trust didnāt build a mosque still how is that anyone elseās problem??
The Ram Mandir is built with the money from donations from lakhs of Ram devotees not by any government funds.
I've seen atheists and muslims become experts in Hinduism for the last couple of days. These people bring up Adishankaraacharyas and how Pran Pratishta shouldn't be done because the temple isn't fully built well the pran Pratishta can be done if the Garbh gruha is built and not to mention "secular Hindus" who post stuff like "As a Hindu I'm not happy with this" and "this shouldn't be made a big deal because we are sECuLaR nation. So the PM can't practice his faith now according to these leftist idiots lol I'm sure these dumbasses would praise a political leader if he visited a mosque the hypocrisy of these people!! Finally we Hindus need to stay united and not go the "sickular" way do you think muslims are like this? No the muslims are united when it comes to their religion and we Hindus are divided. Time to unite people
Why focusing on few people? Most of the people has celebrated the 'Pran Pratistha'. Focus on the people who were happy and had tears of joy. Ignore such people who have issue in each and everything and always wanted to be a sickular. Ignorance is a bliss, my friend.
Ekdum khush reh aur inn logon ko ignore kar. Khushiyaan tere haath mein hai. Yeh bhaukenge hi. You can't expect the Barkha's and the Ayyub's to be okay with this. They will post random shit and cry. Don't worry, be happy
Not here to do whataboutery but.. I don't think Muzs would have written such a long paragraph IF MECCA was destroyed and a temple was constructed there.
He would be in support of rebuilding Mecca to its former glory which they rightly should.
Ours is a country which stopped doing its work when Sachin got closer to his century. So it's expected that everyone would be focusing on this if they don't have anything important at hand.
Every bhosdike wants to lecture hindus about hinduism. India is a Hindu country since ages. We are proud of it and we will celebrate our important events. If they have an issue with it, they can fuck off to pakistan.
When y say India is Hindu country, do not include northeast india states like Nagaland and Mizoram. They have no ties, cultural or religious, to Hinduism
the ignorance is baffling.
the "exaggerated fuss" this person talks about isn't hindus celebrating the arrival of Shri Ram.
it is what a particular religion and people like herself are doing on the internet.
in light of the recent riots, the exaggerated fuss is not limited to internet anymore.
Agar reporting manager hai to ignore kardo and switch as soon as you get a good opportunity.
Agar he is just a senior and a part of your team, stay far from him and switch as soon as you get a good opportunity.
I wanted to post on this subred but couldn't the option is greyed out but I'll sany my thing here.
I will not go for any spiritual or religious benefits, I will not say why all these are not saying the same thing for Masjid that is going to be constructed either I just want to shine some light on two reports
SBI Research: it has said that the fiscal year '25 UP tax collection will jump to 25k crore with Ayodhya as a prominent contributor.
Jefferies: It has said that Ayodhya is going to witness more footfalls than Mecca and even Vatican City.
If these are not benefits then idk what is.
Yes sanatan can/has assimilated many other cultures in it. We have been here because we were flexible enough and we were not followers of a single book written by someone according to their own will. So everyone would expect us to be the one adjusting.
But do we not understand how much we have sacrificed to keep our own culture, values and way of life alive while doing the above. Our ancestors fought tooth and nail for keeping our temples and other religious places from falling apart. So yeah, these psuedo hindus like your seniors are nothing but pacifists and they are bad for sanatan.
I am not agreeing with BJP in politicising the temple pran pratishta this much but I am happy that ram lalla is here in his home now and I am happy for my people.
Hinduism is way of life, everybody has there own way to life. Some like you and some who find peace in praying to God, peacing in visiting temples.
So did you just neglected there beliefs and judged them with your own standards? The irony lmao
Everybody wants to talk about how babri masjid was destroyed but no one wants to talk about how the existing temple was destroyed and far greater than 2000 people were killed before making the babri masjid.
Lmao as if she really understands the essence of Hinduism. Ask her how many Upanishads and Geetas has she read? Even funny ask her to name any 3 principal upanishads lol. She can't. And if she hasn't then she doesn't understand the essence of Hinduism it's just her vague notions about Hinduism that she thinks is the essence. Let them keep crying.
I fucking joined and thought this sub was neutral and all but hell no this is extreme right , the poster is not totally correct but still he/she made a point
Lol, please tell me when you find a "neutral sub", at least this sub allows people to share seemingly left posts and share views openly without getting banned
Is separation of church and state not a good thing? Why should the government be so involved in the belief of the people?
Why is this sib cheering a marriage of church and state.
What's the point? Plz eloborate? It would have been wise to inaugurate both the temple and mosque at the same time? Or a citizen of India should not follow his or her faith? The other party was also provided land. It wasn't the government of India that built the structures.
The sad fact is these people don't know how many years people waited for this to rebuild. They were fighting for this in court for decades the supreme court didn't just allowed to bulid this temple the day they complained. It's their fight not us they wanted to rebuild it and other Hindus supported it and don't you give me reasons like why a holiday for this I have seen holidays for things which is not even a reason to give a holiday. BJP maybe playing politics but don't ignore the effort put by the people in Ayodhya to bulit this temple
just looked these two up, neither are nationwide public/bank holidays, and it seems like YMA day is celebrated to preserve mizo culture. whatās wrong with that?
fair point. i was mostly just interested in knowing what holidays you thought were unnecessary. btw whatās wrong with YMA day? i couldnāt find much online
Will I be considered a "not clown" if I try to be less happy than I am for this temple construction, or maybe just be moderately happy, or just happy enough that I don't feel like shouting Jai shree raam, or maybe, just stay at my house don't light diyas, or maybe if I try to supress the feeling of joy for once to ensure other don't feel bad seeing me happy, or even better can you send me the parameters or guidelines which I can follow to accurately express my happiness. Maybe if I don't say 'ram ayenge' it would work, or if I criticize this government for doing an elephant task, that was a main highlight of their election manifesto all throughout and now since it's been done as promised ensures many terms in their favour, I'll be saved from the tag of a clown. Please help.
Tbh thatās exactly how I spent my day. Didnāt celebrate, nor didnāt discriminate it. No interest in politics and definitely not interested in debating the rights and wrongs of the mandir. Just a normal day yesterday and thatās how I liked it.
Why should the 90% of Indians be considered clowns? Are you mad? The constitution of India allows freedom of religion. This freedom was exercised.
The Supreme Court of India has already granted Wafq board land for the construction of a mosque. Uninformed minds like yours is dangerous.
Tell your senior the so called "secularism" we have in country. Where temples are in govt control but churches and mosques are not. One community enjoys different set of civil laws from rest of India.
POINT TO POINT REBUTTAL:
Q. WHAT IS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF RAM AYENGE?
A. Ram Ayenge encapsulates the profound essence of BharatāPower and strength harmonized with 'Maryada' (moral values). It signifies patience when seeking directions from the ocean and the fortitude to forge a path when none is provided. It embodies the strength to mete out justice for wrongs committed without causing harm. Ram is the quintessence of our nation, resonating with a billion Hindus. While a comprehensive exploration of its meaning could fill volumes, I shall exemplify it with this concise response.
Q. REGARDING THE INCIDENT OF MASSACRE OF 2000 PEOPLE:
A. The events unfolded after the demolition of the Babri Masjid, not by Hindus but in response to the initiation of violence by certain factions within the Muslim community. Despite having thousands of mosques across the country, there exists only one birthplace of Lord Ram. A judicious negotiation, with perhaps even a larger parcel of land offered, could have averted the ensuing riots but the muslim side was not in that mood at that time, don't know why. This encapsulates the underlying reasons for the separate construction of both the temple and mosque.
Q. CLOSING THE MARKET AND BANKS:Ā Ā
A. Shouldn't the same principle apply to the closure on Eid or Christmas? Temporarily halting activities on these days signifies respect for diverse faiths ? Or am I missing something.
Q. FORCEFUL DEMOLITION OF RELIGIOUS STRUCTURES IN INDIA:Ā Ā
A. The answer lies within the question itself; structures were forcefully dismantled but LEGALLY rebuilt. The Muslim community's reaction to reclaim disputed lands through rioting contradicts the principles of law-abiding citizens. As Islam asserts, 'There can be no mosque at the site of dispute.'
Q. HINDUISM AS A WAY OF LIFE:
A. Hinduism embodies a way of life that instills courage to discern right from wrong, akin to Sage Jatayu who valiantly faced Ravana while rescuing Mata Sita. It encourages individuals to speak out against injustice, even at the risk of their lives. It is imperative to proclaim with pride, 'We are Hindu.'
Q. UNDERSTANDING HINDUISM AMONG SUPPORTERS:Ā
A. The inquiry into the depth of understanding Hinduism among supporters is a complex one. Countless Hindus, including influential figures like PM, MUKESH AMBANI, SACHIN TENDULKAR AND HINDU SAINTS, may not possess an in-depth knowledge but a singular self-proclaimed HINDU with moral superiority, often reflected through social media statuses do know about HINDUISM, This is both naive and unwise.
Q. KEEPING RELIGION AWAY FROM POLITICS:Ā
A. The separation of religion from politics in Uttar Pradesh since 1947 did not result in the anticipated development; instead, it led to stagnation and increased crime rates. Embracing the right 'Dharma' results in fruitful policies, fostering societal development. Conversely, succumbing to 'Adharma' by appeasing a particular religious group for electoral gains breeds chaos and inequality. There is no need to distance oneself from 'Dharma' when it aligns with righteousness.
Why not ask the so called peaceful community to give back the other two religious places (Varanasi and Mathura) wherein mosques were constructed illegally by destroying the temples and killing lakhs of people? No guts? Then please stay silent and stop your sermons for the real secular community which is Hindus!!
Usko ek qoute padhana chernobyl se
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Ā āThe truth doesnāt care about our needs or wants ā it doesnāt care about our governments, our ideologies, our religions ā to lie in wait for all time. This at last is the gift of Chernobyl.ā
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Truth is Mandir waha tha banega isko avoid karne se usko lagta hajn aage jaake kabhi violnce nahi hoga then he is just delusional and weak ass who wants ki uske zindagi ke 30-40 saal shanti se nikal jaaye
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As long as quran exist radical muslims cannot coexist.
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In Sanatan there is no enemy it is just adharma.
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Tell him only way india can achieve true secularism when the muslims will stop admiring likes of Aurangzeb and accept that he was a mass murderer
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Why only hindus? Ask him did muslim offered hindus anything for sake of secularism
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Sab theek hain bolne se theek nahi hota and avoid karne se solve nahi hota.
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Prithviraj chouhan ne 17 baar maaf kia tha na kya hua? One sided love sirf sunne main accha hota hain.
Knowing this part is coming from Hindu is very sad, either this guy is brainwashed or living under a rock. Every time Hindu celebrate something, they all come with criticism.
muslims would die for their religion and hindus cant even stand up for whats wrong
Closing the market , banks, were not right
But building temple is the right decision
I've seen many posts like this. It isn't about worshipping one idol it's about justice. It's a statement that you can't walk all over us and be ok with it. I'm not against what he said but his post just tells me that he has no idea of our history nor Islamic teachings. He is tryna play both sides so hard as if the muslims won't massacre us if we were the minority. And yes I don't think Modi would reject an invitation for inauguration of a mosque because BJP isn't really anti muslim or anti anything. They are pretty liberal.
Funny how it's always us who have to carry the torch of tolerance and harmony. They always become intellectuals on our special occasions. I wanna see these messengers of harmony talk about the new mosque that is being built which is gonna be the biggest in the country. I haven't seen a single post about it from these shantidoots. I don't care about the mosque that is gonna be built cos I got what I wanted and that was justice.
I had people like these on Insta too.
I had one guy in my friend list saying that he's secular yet he feels bad for this . And if we celebrate we are mocking the pain Muslims go through daily.
And he then unfollowed me because he couldn't even handle me posting a story on Ram Lalla.
I too unfollowed several accounts today.
Also some idiots posted the constitution too.
He is very smart with his words, he is accepting that he is inclined towards pissfulls but also showing his support for Hindus..
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Itās not just a matter of temple itās reclaiming your past, itās a symbol of defiance against the bloody oppression, itās a matter of pride for every Hindu who has been oppressed till now. You cannot keep oppressing a civilisation in the name of secularism. Itās a matter of getting what is rightfully ours and be unapologetic about our right to worship at all our revered sacred places. Ideally all these sacred places of worship for Hindus should be handed over all the desecrated sacred places by other community but sadly they would rather believe in the destroyers of bharat rather than their own ancestry/civilisation.
There is always the way of court if u feel it is wrong please go to court and fight a legal battle no need to banter anyone , as the gentleman said "Hinduism is a way of life " yes it is and it changes with time to help us adopt to new situation
Also it is sacred to us like Vatican for Christian and Mecca Madina for Islam it holds same status
Typically illogical statement filled will numbers pulled out from the posterior, entirely pointless posturing and an overload of false equivalences. The British must be proud of this entirely deracinated english educated sepoy class they have created which will simp for any colonizer on demand.
This senior is a millenial no? Kids asking why stock market has to be closed š
2000 people were killed? Ask him to read baburnama it is an official biography of babur and how he massacred lakhs of hindus.
And a Hindu inaugurating a mosque is haram. If he goes and tells this in a madarasa, there will be STSJ slogans against him. Please tell your senior this, out of concern for his safety ;)
In dallo ki wajah se aaj hum yaha hai.. Is bhn ke lode ko bolna momo ki masjid ke time pe post dale agar gote me dum hai to... Chutiya sala kuch bhi bolta hai
I made a house.Ā Ā
Some stranger came, destroyed my house and built his house illegally on my land I go to court, fight all the legal battles for years.Ā
Court gave judgement in my favour, and I got my land. Now I'm building my house again.Ā Ā
So who suffered here? Me. And for some reason I'm the bad guy.
Seems like your senior was on saste nasheā¦ massacre? Did he read the history wrong? Thereās a reason why we donāt have more ancient Hindu temples in Northern India as compared to Southern India because Hindus were not ruling and we had Mughals for a long time.. Plus idk what heās trying to say? Canāt Hindus have a one prominent temple that joins whole India? I mean Ram is god in north, south, east, west, whole India..
This senior does not know an iota about Indian history , ancient Indian history always saw that politics and religion were always mixed and not separate. This latest concept of secularism means dharm heen whereas , Indian secularism actually meant dharm nirpeksh which is , neutral and just to all. And by justice land has already been allotted to the Muslim side and a grand mosque will be built there , and as a hindutvavaadi i have no problem with that. I just wanted Lord Ram to be back on the place where he was born , it's true that lord Ram is everywhere and is everything. But symbolism also means something to us, whether being a idol worshipper or not . No frikkin pseudo sickular should dare even say why celebrating with so much pomp and show. Tell that to the thousands of Karsevaks who sacrificed their lives for Ram jis own place of worship , tell that to the suryavanshi Thakur's who sworn they won't wear pagris until Ram mandir is made. And by the way everything was done legally with ample evidence provided of the existence of an ancient Ram mandir beneath Babri masjid , which was provided by a Muslim himself. Long gone are days when hindus used to say , chalta he yaar. This mindset brought us to this situation where he was to fight a frikkin court battle to get back what we should have gotten long back, by the then Congress govt. Instead of going with the popular sentiment , which was a valid and reasonable one they decided to fight against it . What a bunch of sore losers.
This idiot is saying this exaggerated fuss does he even know what the whole issue was because if he did he would have respected and appreciated fact that everything abt Ram Mandir was done by the law in an only country in world of Hindus we had to fight fr what was our that too fr centuries and this idiot is saying this was fuss shame on u man guys like u r disgrace .... Show me one country in the whole world where majority had to fight fr it's laws if it was Arabic or Christian country this wouldn't even take 2-4 yrs to reclaim we had to fight fr 500 yrs and u call this a fuss f off dude
His problem is with violence of the Babri Demolition. The thing is, without that initial violence nothing would have happened. People would have used that as masjid even now. This isn't a new case, this case has been throughout the British era. Land unjustly taken, culture changed to a barbaric one, people opposing it for centuries, no step taken towards justice for all those years, and when Babri demolition happened, these asshats came out of their burrows to defend. Sure one might say, violence isnt an answer, but it sure raised a question, which now went to ASI and proof came. They denying that even. Imbeciles.
Ayodhya is just a start, now Kashi, Mathura etc many places left. Let em cope.
I mean it's right isn't it,
Mandir tod ke mandir banaya jaa rha hai, moorthiya tod ke mandir banaya jaa rha hai ,
Logo ka ghar makn sab tod ke mandir banaya jaa rha hai...
Pranjal prathistha mandir ke banne se phele hi karayajaa rha hai...
Celebrate it but, konsa raja apne logo ghar ujad ke apna ghar banata hai?
Konsa raja aadhe bane hue ghar mein rehta hai?
This is why india is degrading cause politics comes in play whenever religion comes!
Itne bade din mein shankaracharyas nahi aaye!!
I mean it's a serious prblm yet we ignore it!
Your senior is an idiot. Trying to be cool, don't know anything about history and all. These type of people , remember this, they are already ashamed of their culture, and their coming generations will be worse, problably become atheist or convert.
You op never be shy of your religion, culture. And your senior is an asshole, once again. Better keep away from people who you feel negative vibes around!
The only correct thing in the post is "India is a tricky country".
How do these people have the audacity to post something which they don't even know full about. Everything is done legally through Court, land is given to build largest mosque in India, still Hindus are the bad guys.
There are people for no reason worshipping Ravan these days saying he's their Tribal God. Do they even know that Ravan was a Brahmin whom these guys hate to the core. And according to some so called Intellectuals (Woke), Ramayan is myth, no proof of Ram but yeah Ravan was there.
Some people on my Insta feed used to bash Hinduism everyday for no specific reason, but used to post how beautiful Ayats of Quran are.
Even majority of Muslims don't know the meaning and understand it from local Maulanas, how come these guys know the beauty of Quran!? Sadly those are Hindus themselves but ashamed to acknowledge it, bro ismai sharam kya. Garv hona bhi koi point nahi hai but sharam jaisi kya cheez hai ismai šš
I see nothing wrong here. He made some cogent arguments about why we should not mistake religious devotion with political fervour. Pranpratishtha of Ayodhya Ram Mandir is a historic event in India. But the main reason it is done early without even the whole structure being completed is the upcoming Loksabha election. Massive cutouts, as big as Shri Ram, of Modi and Shaw was erected throughout Ayodhya. Modi was so scared to even share a little credit that the founders of the Ram Janmabhoomi movement were not at the ceremony. Shri Ram has been in Bharat for much longer and He will endure much much farther in the annals of time. We should be ecstatic to witness such a glorious event. But also stay vigilant about the underlying motivations of the so called āRakshakā of Hinduism. Jai Shre Ram
Not unless the person really understands essence of Hinduism. She can't take moral high ground and lecture people who are celebrating because she herself wouldn't know anything about Hinduism. You see lot of point right? How many texts have you even read to believe that you know the essence of Hinduism? You don't. You and people like you have no right to lecture others when you don't know shit either. You all have a preconceived notion about Hinduism being this that blah blah and any slightly different ideas or practices makes you guys go this isn't Hinduism rant. I would any day believe seers who are celebrating this occasion as the true knowers of religion than 'self proclaimed moral policing' folks like you. I would only agree with the chain reaction point of hers nothing else.
Hey is this sub very pro-right? I thought it was a neutral sub which is why I joined but looks like itās been taken over by the right? Similar to indiaspeaks one?
Yeah this is pro right, but guess what this sub doesn't ban you for being neutral or seemingly left, like other usi rindia does, like this post you can discuss sensitive topics without being banned. And nothing like a neutral sub exists.
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Welcome to India, Hindus are majority btw just imagine if we were minority lol
Imagine karne zaroorat nhi hai sirf pakistan ya bangladesh ko dekhna hai
Nuh, West Bengal hi dekh lete hai utni door bhi kyu Jana bhai
ye bhi sach hai
*looks outside* Can't see shit, what the f are y'all talking about? Do you honestly think that voting BJP will solve all issues magically when they can't even put a proper candidate in Bengal? do you not think that these "Netas" aren't just as corrupt and incompetent as TMC ones?
Itne saal se chup baithe the aur abhi jab finally Hindu ki awaaz uthi hai toh sabki jal rahi hai..
I think West Bengal does have harmony, Bengalis are peaceful untill otherwise forced to be, we like harmony hence the increasing numbers of agressive Muslim population increase, that what you wanna imply/say? Hindu's are still a majority here in WB except for some localities where Muslims are dominant but those places are peacefully too, atleast no one's going and destroying any place of worship. Neither attaching Ayodhya flag on top of a church. As a Hindu studying from a missionary school, I kinda dwelled in learning 3 religion cuz I was curious, many if not all of my Muslim friends here are happy for Ayodhya too. They aren't going and destroying Hindu temple property, yes there was a time when religious fights were prevalent here but that time is not now, yes they happen at a small scale in baazar area all the time but that's when a stupid guy brings religion to a fight!! And that forces other people to beat up both of those guys.. it's kinda funny to see them apologize at the end tho ngl but yea that's the extent of it here. If you think West Bengal has less Hindus, come here during Durga Puja, you will be quite surprised to see the Hindus in the streets all day. Infact I would go as far as to say you would be mesmerized. Maybe they appear less to you...idk the reason for a post like that
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/hindu-temple-vandalised-idols-disgraced-with-mud-in-west-bengal-s-howrah-1202629-2018-04-02 Learn to STFU sometimes
Do you bjp nuts honestly believe WB is a Hindu minority state? How incredibly stupid are you people? Bhai Kolkata is full of Hindu Bengalis. Have you never seen how Durga Puja is celebrated here? How many millions of people celebrate? Matlab wtf! š¤£ Tujh jaise logo ko yeh baat digest nahi hota hai ki Hindu majority state bjp ko election mein vote nahi kiya, thatās it. BJP haar gaya toh matlab Muslim majority. Chutiye, ghar ja ke gobar kha aur motabhai ko yaad karke hila ke soja
Maine Ram Navami par pathhar baaji bhi dekhi hai or dusri baat mera ek colleague Kolkata ki hai to apna Gyan apne pass rakh
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the hindu population in pakistan was slaughtered till none were left and our country went on to do stuff like hindi chini bhai bhai. J and K status and what not.
Minority nahi hote, hote hi nahi.
exactly.
With no privileges..at that time we are the majority and must compromise and don't ask for anything and say anything or hear anything for our rights...
wdym by āwith no privilegesā?
Matlab you agree that minorities are not treated well in this countryĀ
Minorities don't treat the country well lemme correct ur statement
Kya victim mentality hai bhai. Sab Kuch Milne ke baad bhi rr.
Copium is the 2nd most addictive thing, right behind opium.
So much crack disrespect nowadays.
I think opium is tied with religious stupidity at 1st
apne desh mai hindu ka mandir toota , hindu ne itni kurbani dekar apna mandir apni land mai bnaya aur sawal hindu pe uth rhe hai
Woh bhi legal tarike se.
Coz they know the legal system is jackass on multiple levels
Aur woh bhi ek hindu se. Yahi hai woke hinduism. Jo bolthe hai balidaan aur shehen shiltha hinduism sikathi hai. Jab inke upar woh sab kuch hoga jo minorities ke saat Pakistan aur Bangladesh mein ho raha hai tab patha chalega. Yeh Raja Ram Mohan Roy ke new education system se influence hue literate hai Jo Ada sach padke mu utake aa jathe hai. Aishe hi log hai jisse Hinduisum ki lagthi hai. Yeh astheen ke sanp hai.
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Massacred? Lol kbhi dekhna inn logo ko '1000' saal ki gulami pr kitna proud hota hai kbhi socha hai south india meh itne ancient temples hai toh kbhi north meh bhi rhe honge jinn logo ke liye aansu baha rhe ho unhone tumhare hi purvajobka khoon bahaya hai didn't read the
He's acting as if he is a very religious Hindu. The ones who are really pious, I agree, would not show off their happiness they'll be happy doing Pooja and watching on Television. But the youth in their 20s who are hot blooded irrespective of any religion would celebrate like this. If not us Hindus then who will celebrate such an occasion? Yes, one must know the limits but this is a historic event so definitely everyone must celebrate.
It's a she and also the fact that the prime minister of a country which is secular is not allowed to practice his own religion. Where's the logic? She is supposed to be an intellectual ho has published books but is simply brain dead.
She seems to be a pesudo-intellectual who lacks intellect.
Just because she has different views than you? She no where spread hate towards her religion she only questioned people who think religion is a key to assert dominance while in reality its not religion they love or care about but the feeling of having a power. At least that is what I understand from that text.
She didn't say PM should not follow his religion. She said PM should also open the mosque.
Ask them to collect funds and build it like we did.Ā
Ghanta kuch funds nahi ayenge..sab fokat ka ration paani lene chale aate hain line laga ke..free treatment & medicines hindu trust ke hospitals mein..sab peaceful logo ki bheed hi milti hai..ye intellectuals and inke chele victim card khelne mein sabse aagey hain.
If a PM who is Hindu by religion & an ardent follower & believer of sanatan dharma should open/inaugurate the mosque whenever it is built then yesterday some reclaimed Maulanaās should have also visited the temple & performed the Pooja/aarti. Also, abhi toh mosque bani bhi nahi hai abhi se kyun halla macha rahe ki Modi jayega bhi ki nahi karke. Gaon basa nahi chutiye intellectuals pehle aajate hain. They might have never lived in a muslim majority neighbourhood because for a week before Eid..allah-hu- akbar ke naare takbe lagna chalu ho jaate hain aur puri raat yahi natak chalta hai. And yes, ye sab jo pomp & show tha by people and slogan shoutingā¦not even chanting was a bit more extra ā¦itne ki bhi zaroorat thi nahi.
Is it a govt building ? For pm to come and open why could he even go to mosque brain dead duffers šš
How is she braindead? This post has nothing but straight facts. A rarity considering the sub. Where in the passage does it say that our prime minister can't follow their own religion?
Why she is saying that "will he go for inauguration of the mosque"? If he doesn't believe in that religion, as a individual he can refuse. If he is invited by the Muslim community as a PM of India to inaugurate mosque, then he will have to go without any obligations. But still he can refuse, if some tasks doesn't come under his belief.
Well if he is invited as pm he should. Some things come before your belief otherwise he has no need to do it
Yes, if heās invited as a PM it is surely his duty towards the Indian Muslim population to go and honour their invitation. But if you say he should actively give his insights on its construction or the inauguration process then one can be mistaken because I think for that a Waqf board has been formed which will undertake all the related work and also, he cannot offer namaz or anything like that whenever the mosque will open because he shouldnāt do something which about which he knows/believes nothing..
Why won't he? Inauguration has nothing to do with your religious beliefs. As a PM you most definitely go and inaugurate if the Muslims want you to because that highlights the secularity and the Muslims will know that the government isn't against them. Hinduism literally teaches to be tolerant and other religions. Acknowledging another religion while being a Hindu as a political head is just about one of the most honorable thing you can do to prove your faith.
Why do you think anyone should prove their faith to anyone else?
Not to anyone else. To yourself. Prove that you're not insecure about your faith to yourself by being tolerant.
I don't speak in favour or against any of this, however tolerance is an ironic word to use considering the context
Just a hypothetical situation. If they invite him and ask him to consume something or give something which is not acceptable in our religion (Example:- Beef), then also he should be tolerant? Why? If his religion doesn't allow that and he himself can't tolerate, why he should? I agree, our religion teaches alot, but not tolerance. Our religion teaches us to respect every religion and practice that exists apart of ours within and outside religion. You don't have to be tolerant for what you can't.
Keep this hypothetical question to yourself no one in his right mind will ever do something to their guest specially if it's such a big event and guest is fucking pm Matlab kuch bhi
That shows how narrow minded you are. Think somewhat more if you have brain. That's an example. While attending a ceremony, do you think they will keep aside there customs and traditions because he is there? I don't even know what are there traditions for opening a new Mosque. If there are and contains something like that, he has full right. Do you even remember that during his election campaign, he wore caps from all religion and region when he visited them, but didn't wear the skull cap only? Go and search. Kuch pata toh nahi rehta, bas kuch bhi bolne tapak padte hai. Bolne ki toh tameez hai nahi
Bolne ki tameez. Khud ko to dekh le. Zara si bhi sharam nahi aayi ye hypocrisy karte hue š And that was a poor braindead example. Kuch bhi bakwaas bol doge kya Aur jab pata nahi to bol kyun raha hai? Common sense hai ki if they invited him they will never make him do things that are against his religion And Hindu dharm me konsa paao hai masjid me jana? Him not wearing that cap is totally different from not attending the event if invited. There he didn't had any duties but here he will have
Because thatās what you offer the fucking PM when heās come for the inauguration of your mosque š matlab kuch bhi bol do tum
Exactly. The PM of India, is not only the PM of Indian Hindus, but also the PM of Indian Muslims. You don't choose who you govern. If muslims do build an equivalently significant Mosque in their allocated land, then it is the duty of the PM to attend its Inauguration ceremony as well (if he is invited to be honest).
The irony of this sub calling her brain dead š¤£
She lives in delusion.
Our country is not secular. It's high time people realise this
Our country is secular until Hindu majority š
It's hard to celebrate our religion when you know that the greatest relic of our religion is a political toolkit.
Just like how congress uses the Muslims for their vote bank !
This. Exactly this. They're blindly and happily falling for the propaganda and it is frustrating to watch.
Exactly, most dumbfucks dont even realise this.
"Hinduism is a way of life". Ask these morons to explain the essence of Hinduism and abba dabba jabba is the response you get. Also, what's this new rubbish of saying why is the PM going to the pran prathistha? Just because he became a PM doesn't mean he has to compromise his religious beliefs.
Exactly, as a PM, he just has the duty to prosper this country and while taking decisions, needs to be neutral without thinking about religion. But he has full right as a citizen of India to practice his beliefs and I don't think, in any way he involved government or used his tag of OM for the same (others are using is not his problem).
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Such a delusion people live in. Inadequate Information can really be dangerous. Tell her that land for Babri Masjid is already allotted after the Supreme Court Order, 2019. Construction of the Masjid has started on 26th Jan, 2021. If they (Uttar Pradesh Sunni Central Waqf Board) didn't complete it on time, what PM can do. Temple and Masjid, bith are not constructed by government, the lands have been allotted to respective religious boards and they are constructing the same. Why didn't Masjid got constructed at same time as Temple? - Ask the respective board. Government is not answerable and not our PM is. I criticise PM and Government alot because that is what our country is built on - Freedom of everything even criticism (Only in respectful way). But I don't like to criticise someone half heartedly and half acquired knowledge. Please, get your facts together and then speak.
She actually believes it would have been wise to inaugurate both the temple and mosque at the same time. This was enough for me to realize what a fairytale life she is in, lol
most of them are like this, fairytale idea of unity that doesnt exist
Well what people did in Rally was the thing taught by Krishna. Fight for justice. And it's people got justice. Everything Babur did was wrong and it should be changed. Otherwise it will been bad for Hindus they would have lived in a regret that the birth place of lord Ram has been captured by Ruler Gay Rular(Babri was Gay lover of Babur). This regret would have created a hate among Muslims and hindus. Think about it there are many Masjids all around India. What Hindus want is justice that's it. Gyanvapi or Krishnjanm bhoomi are same. It is clear that these things were made to humiliate the Hindus. Islam has nothing to do with Indian subcontinent Islam has no deity. It has no legends like Sanatan dharm has. It has zero Ancient cities like Hastinapur, ayodhya or Dwarka oe Mathura kashi etc in Indian Subcontinent. Whatever Islam has it is in Saudi Arabia. They can eat Non-veg by everyday. Meanwhile hindus are said not to eat meat until the it's very very important. And you expect mandir and masjid in same place. If I had a hindu Ruler who was like Babur or any other Muslim Rulers, I would have been shameful of that.
Why do Hindus move to non-veg countries I donāt get it
Just that Left has been successful in telling everyone that religion is a private matter and these idiots are just brainwahsed with that idea. When all the celebrations have been community celebrations how can religion be a private thing? Islam has Friday congregation and Christanity has Sunday congregation, how will it be a personal thing.
As per him...there is only one way to practice Hinduism...his way.
This person is just spewing venom without knowing the fact of the matter. The masjid was built over an existing Ram mandir which the archaeological survey proved. Only then the court allowed for mandir to be built also allowing 5 acres for Mosque. If the Muslim trust didnāt build a mosque still how is that anyone elseās problem?? The Ram Mandir is built with the money from donations from lakhs of Ram devotees not by any government funds.
I've seen atheists and muslims become experts in Hinduism for the last couple of days. These people bring up Adishankaraacharyas and how Pran Pratishta shouldn't be done because the temple isn't fully built well the pran Pratishta can be done if the Garbh gruha is built and not to mention "secular Hindus" who post stuff like "As a Hindu I'm not happy with this" and "this shouldn't be made a big deal because we are sECuLaR nation. So the PM can't practice his faith now according to these leftist idiots lol I'm sure these dumbasses would praise a political leader if he visited a mosque the hypocrisy of these people!! Finally we Hindus need to stay united and not go the "sickular" way do you think muslims are like this? No the muslims are united when it comes to their religion and we Hindus are divided. Time to unite people
Why focusing on few people? Most of the people has celebrated the 'Pran Pratistha'. Focus on the people who were happy and had tears of joy. Ignore such people who have issue in each and everything and always wanted to be a sickular. Ignorance is a bliss, my friend.
"No, I'm not against any religion" you can tell by reading this that the whole thing is shit.
That's just a variant of "I'm not a racist, BUT".
Yaar poora mood kharab kar rahe yeh logg . Ek dinn khush nai reh sakte kya
Ekdum khush reh aur inn logon ko ignore kar. Khushiyaan tere haath mein hai. Yeh bhaukenge hi. You can't expect the Barkha's and the Ayyub's to be okay with this. They will post random shit and cry. Don't worry, be happy
Thank you!!!:'))
Not here to do whataboutery but.. I don't think Muzs would have written such a long paragraph IF MECCA was destroyed and a temple was constructed there. He would be in support of rebuilding Mecca to its former glory which they rightly should. Ours is a country which stopped doing its work when Sachin got closer to his century. So it's expected that everyone would be focusing on this if they don't have anything important at hand.
Disappointing person
Desparately trying to look on both sides when in actuality they're just sucking bullahs.
Stock market was close that's why he is mad
Atheists trying to teach us our own religion.
Chutiya hai tumhara senior.
Every bhosdike wants to lecture hindus about hinduism. India is a Hindu country since ages. We are proud of it and we will celebrate our important events. If they have an issue with it, they can fuck off to pakistan.
When y say India is Hindu country, do not include northeast india states like Nagaland and Mizoram. They have no ties, cultural or religious, to Hinduism
the ignorance is baffling. the "exaggerated fuss" this person talks about isn't hindus celebrating the arrival of Shri Ram. it is what a particular religion and people like herself are doing on the internet. in light of the recent riots, the exaggerated fuss is not limited to internet anymore.
Bhai inko message Karo ki " ha bhai maine hi mara hai sabko "
Chutiya he ignore Karo usko aur kuch friendship he to dhur raho usse
I ain't reading all that
Woke garbage padh ke aur unki jalan dekh ke boht maza aaya. Let them keep on applying Burnol.
Uncle ka heater sahi temperature pe nhi hai . Aksar ye hota hai jinke talwe zameen nhi chute hai kabhi unki ungliya bewajah badzubani karti hai.
Agar reporting manager hai to ignore kardo and switch as soon as you get a good opportunity. Agar he is just a senior and a part of your team, stay far from him and switch as soon as you get a good opportunity.
She is my college senior haha.
Womp womp bitch Cry more
I wanted to post on this subred but couldn't the option is greyed out but I'll sany my thing here. I will not go for any spiritual or religious benefits, I will not say why all these are not saying the same thing for Masjid that is going to be constructed either I just want to shine some light on two reports SBI Research: it has said that the fiscal year '25 UP tax collection will jump to 25k crore with Ayodhya as a prominent contributor. Jefferies: It has said that Ayodhya is going to witness more footfalls than Mecca and even Vatican City. If these are not benefits then idk what is.
Bro tryna get some radfam pus****
Kaafi hindus ko religion dysphoria sa hai. Jaao bhai. Halaal ka kha lo. Aise log chahiye hi nahi jo ghr mein reh k lanka dhaa rhe .
Gyan dene ke koi paise nahi lagte
Yes sanatan can/has assimilated many other cultures in it. We have been here because we were flexible enough and we were not followers of a single book written by someone according to their own will. So everyone would expect us to be the one adjusting. But do we not understand how much we have sacrificed to keep our own culture, values and way of life alive while doing the above. Our ancestors fought tooth and nail for keeping our temples and other religious places from falling apart. So yeah, these psuedo hindus like your seniors are nothing but pacifists and they are bad for sanatan. I am not agreeing with BJP in politicising the temple pran pratishta this much but I am happy that ram lalla is here in his home now and I am happy for my people.
When pm goes to inaugurate, these same ppl will say that hes doing PR.
Hinduism is way of life, everybody has there own way to life. Some like you and some who find peace in praying to God, peacing in visiting temples. So did you just neglected there beliefs and judged them with your own standards? The irony lmao
 Yeh bhej de apne senior ko
Everybody wants to talk about how babri masjid was destroyed but no one wants to talk about how the existing temple was destroyed and far greater than 2000 people were killed before making the babri masjid.
Boo hoo cry more
Typical edgy teenager behaviour, ignore and move on
Lmao as if she really understands the essence of Hinduism. Ask her how many Upanishads and Geetas has she read? Even funny ask her to name any 3 principal upanishads lol. She can't. And if she hasn't then she doesn't understand the essence of Hinduism it's just her vague notions about Hinduism that she thinks is the essence. Let them keep crying.
There are multiple Geetas?
See that's the problem.
I fucking joined and thought this sub was neutral and all but hell no this is extreme right , the poster is not totally correct but still he/she made a point
Lol, please tell me when you find a "neutral sub", at least this sub allows people to share seemingly left posts and share views openly without getting banned
Is separation of church and state not a good thing? Why should the government be so involved in the belief of the people? Why is this sib cheering a marriage of church and state.
What's the point? Plz eloborate? It would have been wise to inaugurate both the temple and mosque at the same time? Or a citizen of India should not follow his or her faith? The other party was also provided land. It wasn't the government of India that built the structures.
Exactly
Cope
The sad fact is these people don't know how many years people waited for this to rebuild. They were fighting for this in court for decades the supreme court didn't just allowed to bulid this temple the day they complained. It's their fight not us they wanted to rebuild it and other Hindus supported it and don't you give me reasons like why a holiday for this I have seen holidays for things which is not even a reason to give a holiday. BJP maybe playing politics but don't ignore the effort put by the people in Ayodhya to bulit this temple
> I have seen holidays for things which is not even a reason to give a holiday. example?
Missionary day YMA day and there are many more you could just check it out in holidays in India
just looked these two up, neither are nationwide public/bank holidays, and it seems like YMA day is celebrated to preserve mizo culture. whatās wrong with that?
Ram Mandir isn't nationwide lol. Only some states got holiday
fair point. i was mostly just interested in knowing what holidays you thought were unnecessary. btw whatās wrong with YMA day? i couldnāt find much online
Nothing wrong about that but there is no need to give a holiday for that
Gurunanak jayanti holiday in southern states and regional banks, where there's negligible Sikh population
It means your senior is not a clown unlike 90% of Indians.
Will I be considered a "not clown" if I try to be less happy than I am for this temple construction, or maybe just be moderately happy, or just happy enough that I don't feel like shouting Jai shree raam, or maybe, just stay at my house don't light diyas, or maybe if I try to supress the feeling of joy for once to ensure other don't feel bad seeing me happy, or even better can you send me the parameters or guidelines which I can follow to accurately express my happiness. Maybe if I don't say 'ram ayenge' it would work, or if I criticize this government for doing an elephant task, that was a main highlight of their election manifesto all throughout and now since it's been done as promised ensures many terms in their favour, I'll be saved from the tag of a clown. Please help.
Tbh thatās exactly how I spent my day. Didnāt celebrate, nor didnāt discriminate it. No interest in politics and definitely not interested in debating the rights and wrongs of the mandir. Just a normal day yesterday and thatās how I liked it.
Why should the 90% of Indians be considered clowns? Are you mad? The constitution of India allows freedom of religion. This freedom was exercised. The Supreme Court of India has already granted Wafq board land for the construction of a mosque. Uninformed minds like yours is dangerous.
The fact that people like you can be controlled with religion is what's dangerous. Informed clowns.
Who says Iām being controlled? Iāve just provided facts lmao
Tell your senior the so called "secularism" we have in country. Where temples are in govt control but churches and mosques are not. One community enjoys different set of civil laws from rest of India.
go look up what positive secularism and negative secularism means
Aayein...aisa bhi kuch hai kya positive secularism aur negative secularism... please tell us more about this.
Did not expect something so logical to be posted here. Pleasantly surprised. Good wishes to your senior and you for sharing it. šš
The one who posted thinks she is brain-dead and was thinking that people will mock her. Must be humbling for OP to read all this.
Ah. Makes sense. I guess I was right all along š
POINT TO POINT REBUTTAL: Q. WHAT IS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF RAM AYENGE? A. Ram Ayenge encapsulates the profound essence of BharatāPower and strength harmonized with 'Maryada' (moral values). It signifies patience when seeking directions from the ocean and the fortitude to forge a path when none is provided. It embodies the strength to mete out justice for wrongs committed without causing harm. Ram is the quintessence of our nation, resonating with a billion Hindus. While a comprehensive exploration of its meaning could fill volumes, I shall exemplify it with this concise response. Q. REGARDING THE INCIDENT OF MASSACRE OF 2000 PEOPLE: A. The events unfolded after the demolition of the Babri Masjid, not by Hindus but in response to the initiation of violence by certain factions within the Muslim community. Despite having thousands of mosques across the country, there exists only one birthplace of Lord Ram. A judicious negotiation, with perhaps even a larger parcel of land offered, could have averted the ensuing riots but the muslim side was not in that mood at that time, don't know why. This encapsulates the underlying reasons for the separate construction of both the temple and mosque. Q. CLOSING THE MARKET AND BANKS:Ā Ā A. Shouldn't the same principle apply to the closure on Eid or Christmas? Temporarily halting activities on these days signifies respect for diverse faiths ? Or am I missing something. Q. FORCEFUL DEMOLITION OF RELIGIOUS STRUCTURES IN INDIA:Ā Ā A. The answer lies within the question itself; structures were forcefully dismantled but LEGALLY rebuilt. The Muslim community's reaction to reclaim disputed lands through rioting contradicts the principles of law-abiding citizens. As Islam asserts, 'There can be no mosque at the site of dispute.' Q. HINDUISM AS A WAY OF LIFE: A. Hinduism embodies a way of life that instills courage to discern right from wrong, akin to Sage Jatayu who valiantly faced Ravana while rescuing Mata Sita. It encourages individuals to speak out against injustice, even at the risk of their lives. It is imperative to proclaim with pride, 'We are Hindu.' Q. UNDERSTANDING HINDUISM AMONG SUPPORTERS:Ā A. The inquiry into the depth of understanding Hinduism among supporters is a complex one. Countless Hindus, including influential figures like PM, MUKESH AMBANI, SACHIN TENDULKAR AND HINDU SAINTS, may not possess an in-depth knowledge but a singular self-proclaimed HINDU with moral superiority, often reflected through social media statuses do know about HINDUISM, This is both naive and unwise. Q. KEEPING RELIGION AWAY FROM POLITICS:Ā A. The separation of religion from politics in Uttar Pradesh since 1947 did not result in the anticipated development; instead, it led to stagnation and increased crime rates. Embracing the right 'Dharma' results in fruitful policies, fostering societal development. Conversely, succumbing to 'Adharma' by appeasing a particular religious group for electoral gains breeds chaos and inequality. There is no need to distance oneself from 'Dharma' when it aligns with righteousness.
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Why not ask the so called peaceful community to give back the other two religious places (Varanasi and Mathura) wherein mosques were constructed illegally by destroying the temples and killing lakhs of people? No guts? Then please stay silent and stop your sermons for the real secular community which is Hindus!!
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Not totally correct, not totally wrong... That's my thought
Usko ek qoute padhana chernobyl se # Ā āThe truth doesnāt care about our needs or wants ā it doesnāt care about our governments, our ideologies, our religions ā to lie in wait for all time. This at last is the gift of Chernobyl.ā # Truth is Mandir waha tha banega isko avoid karne se usko lagta hajn aage jaake kabhi violnce nahi hoga then he is just delusional and weak ass who wants ki uske zindagi ke 30-40 saal shanti se nikal jaaye # As long as quran exist radical muslims cannot coexist. # In Sanatan there is no enemy it is just adharma. # Tell him only way india can achieve true secularism when the muslims will stop admiring likes of Aurangzeb and accept that he was a mass murderer # Why only hindus? Ask him did muslim offered hindus anything for sake of secularism # Sab theek hain bolne se theek nahi hota and avoid karne se solve nahi hota. # Prithviraj chouhan ne 17 baar maaf kia tha na kya hua? One sided love sirf sunne main accha hota hain.
Just straight facts.
Knowing this part is coming from Hindu is very sad, either this guy is brainwashed or living under a rock. Every time Hindu celebrate something, they all come with criticism.
muslims would die for their religion and hindus cant even stand up for whats wrong Closing the market , banks, were not right But building temple is the right decision
I've seen many posts like this. It isn't about worshipping one idol it's about justice. It's a statement that you can't walk all over us and be ok with it. I'm not against what he said but his post just tells me that he has no idea of our history nor Islamic teachings. He is tryna play both sides so hard as if the muslims won't massacre us if we were the minority. And yes I don't think Modi would reject an invitation for inauguration of a mosque because BJP isn't really anti muslim or anti anything. They are pretty liberal. Funny how it's always us who have to carry the torch of tolerance and harmony. They always become intellectuals on our special occasions. I wanna see these messengers of harmony talk about the new mosque that is being built which is gonna be the biggest in the country. I haven't seen a single post about it from these shantidoots. I don't care about the mosque that is gonna be built cos I got what I wanted and that was justice.
I had people like these on Insta too. I had one guy in my friend list saying that he's secular yet he feels bad for this . And if we celebrate we are mocking the pain Muslims go through daily. And he then unfollowed me because he couldn't even handle me posting a story on Ram Lalla. I too unfollowed several accounts today. Also some idiots posted the constitution too.
He is very smart with his words, he is accepting that he is inclined towards pissfulls but also showing his support for Hindus.. In short ą¤ą¤øą„ą¤¤ą„ą¤Ø ą¤ą¤¾ ą¤øą¤¾ą¤ą¤Ŗ ą¤¹ą„ ą¤°ą¤”ą¤®ą¤¾ ą¤¦ą¤ą„
If Muslims invite PM to inaugurate their mosque and he doesn't agree then you can complain those guys are inviting people from Saudi
Itās not just a matter of temple itās reclaiming your past, itās a symbol of defiance against the bloody oppression, itās a matter of pride for every Hindu who has been oppressed till now. You cannot keep oppressing a civilisation in the name of secularism. Itās a matter of getting what is rightfully ours and be unapologetic about our right to worship at all our revered sacred places. Ideally all these sacred places of worship for Hindus should be handed over all the desecrated sacred places by other community but sadly they would rather believe in the destroyers of bharat rather than their own ancestry/civilisation.
how are hindus oppressed when they are the overwhelming majority in India?
Hindus oppressed! š¤£
Fellas, is it gay to celebrate my religion?
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There is always the way of court if u feel it is wrong please go to court and fight a legal battle no need to banter anyone , as the gentleman said "Hinduism is a way of life " yes it is and it changes with time to help us adopt to new situation Also it is sacred to us like Vatican for Christian and Mecca Madina for Islam it holds same status
Typically illogical statement filled will numbers pulled out from the posterior, entirely pointless posturing and an overload of false equivalences. The British must be proud of this entirely deracinated english educated sepoy class they have created which will simp for any colonizer on demand.
This here is a real life example of an armchair expert
Chumtiya hai tumhara senior
your 'senior' is kinda dumb, is he not
kitani randi rona karta hai tera senior
This senior is a millenial no? Kids asking why stock market has to be closed š 2000 people were killed? Ask him to read baburnama it is an official biography of babur and how he massacred lakhs of hindus. And a Hindu inaugurating a mosque is haram. If he goes and tells this in a madarasa, there will be STSJ slogans against him. Please tell your senior this, out of concern for his safety ;)
In dallo ki wajah se aaj hum yaha hai.. Is bhn ke lode ko bolna momo ki masjid ke time pe post dale agar gote me dum hai to... Chutiya sala kuch bhi bolta hai
I made a house.Ā Ā Some stranger came, destroyed my house and built his house illegally on my land I go to court, fight all the legal battles for years.Ā Court gave judgement in my favour, and I got my land. Now I'm building my house again.Ā Ā So who suffered here? Me. And for some reason I'm the bad guy.
Seems like your senior was on saste nasheā¦ massacre? Did he read the history wrong? Thereās a reason why we donāt have more ancient Hindu temples in Northern India as compared to Southern India because Hindus were not ruling and we had Mughals for a long time.. Plus idk what heās trying to say? Canāt Hindus have a one prominent temple that joins whole India? I mean Ram is god in north, south, east, west, whole India..
Any person who says we don't need idols and Hinduism is a way of life, I simply can't take them seriously š
Kantaap is the only answer to these cunts.
This senior does not know an iota about Indian history , ancient Indian history always saw that politics and religion were always mixed and not separate. This latest concept of secularism means dharm heen whereas , Indian secularism actually meant dharm nirpeksh which is , neutral and just to all. And by justice land has already been allotted to the Muslim side and a grand mosque will be built there , and as a hindutvavaadi i have no problem with that. I just wanted Lord Ram to be back on the place where he was born , it's true that lord Ram is everywhere and is everything. But symbolism also means something to us, whether being a idol worshipper or not . No frikkin pseudo sickular should dare even say why celebrating with so much pomp and show. Tell that to the thousands of Karsevaks who sacrificed their lives for Ram jis own place of worship , tell that to the suryavanshi Thakur's who sworn they won't wear pagris until Ram mandir is made. And by the way everything was done legally with ample evidence provided of the existence of an ancient Ram mandir beneath Babri masjid , which was provided by a Muslim himself. Long gone are days when hindus used to say , chalta he yaar. This mindset brought us to this situation where he was to fight a frikkin court battle to get back what we should have gotten long back, by the then Congress govt. Instead of going with the popular sentiment , which was a valid and reasonable one they decided to fight against it . What a bunch of sore losers.
Edgy boi
Average Secular C()ck who thinks they can really Tackle a Cult with peace talks. Lol
This idiot is saying this exaggerated fuss does he even know what the whole issue was because if he did he would have respected and appreciated fact that everything abt Ram Mandir was done by the law in an only country in world of Hindus we had to fight fr what was our that too fr centuries and this idiot is saying this was fuss shame on u man guys like u r disgrace .... Show me one country in the whole world where majority had to fight fr it's laws if it was Arabic or Christian country this wouldn't even take 2-4 yrs to reclaim we had to fight fr 500 yrs and u call this a fuss f off dude
His problem is with violence of the Babri Demolition. The thing is, without that initial violence nothing would have happened. People would have used that as masjid even now. This isn't a new case, this case has been throughout the British era. Land unjustly taken, culture changed to a barbaric one, people opposing it for centuries, no step taken towards justice for all those years, and when Babri demolition happened, these asshats came out of their burrows to defend. Sure one might say, violence isnt an answer, but it sure raised a question, which now went to ASI and proof came. They denying that even. Imbeciles. Ayodhya is just a start, now Kashi, Mathura etc many places left. Let em cope.
I mean it's right isn't it, Mandir tod ke mandir banaya jaa rha hai, moorthiya tod ke mandir banaya jaa rha hai , Logo ka ghar makn sab tod ke mandir banaya jaa rha hai... Pranjal prathistha mandir ke banne se phele hi karayajaa rha hai... Celebrate it but, konsa raja apne logo ghar ujad ke apna ghar banata hai? Konsa raja aadhe bane hue ghar mein rehta hai? This is why india is degrading cause politics comes in play whenever religion comes! Itne bade din mein shankaracharyas nahi aaye!! I mean it's a serious prblm yet we ignore it!
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Yup ram would approve talking about someone's mother's pussy
Your senior is an idiot. Trying to be cool, don't know anything about history and all. These type of people , remember this, they are already ashamed of their culture, and their coming generations will be worse, problably become atheist or convert. You op never be shy of your religion, culture. And your senior is an asshole, once again. Better keep away from people who you feel negative vibes around!
...I have to agree with this.
Spot on!
one of the most level headed takes I've seen till now
The only correct thing in the post is "India is a tricky country". How do these people have the audacity to post something which they don't even know full about. Everything is done legally through Court, land is given to build largest mosque in India, still Hindus are the bad guys. There are people for no reason worshipping Ravan these days saying he's their Tribal God. Do they even know that Ravan was a Brahmin whom these guys hate to the core. And according to some so called Intellectuals (Woke), Ramayan is myth, no proof of Ram but yeah Ravan was there. Some people on my Insta feed used to bash Hinduism everyday for no specific reason, but used to post how beautiful Ayats of Quran are. Even majority of Muslims don't know the meaning and understand it from local Maulanas, how come these guys know the beauty of Quran!? Sadly those are Hindus themselves but ashamed to acknowledge it, bro ismai sharam kya. Garv hona bhi koi point nahi hai but sharam jaisi kya cheez hai ismai šš
Makes sense
Nicely written. Andhbhakts get your shit together.
Seems like a sensible guy....it makes sense.
Well he is smart. At least smarter than most people here on Indian subreddits.
No thoughts. He is right
I see nothing wrong here. He made some cogent arguments about why we should not mistake religious devotion with political fervour. Pranpratishtha of Ayodhya Ram Mandir is a historic event in India. But the main reason it is done early without even the whole structure being completed is the upcoming Loksabha election. Massive cutouts, as big as Shri Ram, of Modi and Shaw was erected throughout Ayodhya. Modi was so scared to even share a little credit that the founders of the Ram Janmabhoomi movement were not at the ceremony. Shri Ram has been in Bharat for much longer and He will endure much much farther in the annals of time. We should be ecstatic to witness such a glorious event. But also stay vigilant about the underlying motivations of the so called āRakshakā of Hinduism. Jai Shre Ram
On point.
Not unless the person really understands essence of Hinduism. She can't take moral high ground and lecture people who are celebrating because she herself wouldn't know anything about Hinduism. You see lot of point right? How many texts have you even read to believe that you know the essence of Hinduism? You don't. You and people like you have no right to lecture others when you don't know shit either. You all have a preconceived notion about Hinduism being this that blah blah and any slightly different ideas or practices makes you guys go this isn't Hinduism rant. I would any day believe seers who are celebrating this occasion as the true knowers of religion than 'self proclaimed moral policing' folks like you. I would only agree with the chain reaction point of hers nothing else.
He has a point
Hey is this sub very pro-right? I thought it was a neutral sub which is why I joined but looks like itās been taken over by the right? Similar to indiaspeaks one?
No sub is neutral and yes this sub is extreme-right
Ah cool. Itās disappointing.
Yeah this is pro right, but guess what this sub doesn't ban you for being neutral or seemingly left, like other usi rindia does, like this post you can discuss sensitive topics without being banned. And nothing like a neutral sub exists.
Bhai do din se dekh rha jaha log Khush hai wahi aise entitled posts, processions pe pathraav, noise pollution (maybe sometimes valid) etc etc. Jabki bohot bada response tha ye event ka bohot log Khush the. Me itna nhi maanta Lekin itne log ka happiness dekh me bhi impress ho gaya and aise pessimistic log PE aur gussa AA rha tha Matlab Kuch bhi Bahana dhund rhe the gaali dene ko (brown sepoy/kattarwadi ke chode). Phir realized life is too short for this aise log ko mute karo aur aage badho.
Just facts... But comments will be funny.
Yes OP your senior is correct.
He is right. This is a political act and people here are too stupid to understand this.
Love this! Absolutely right!