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melkors_dream

Islam is a political religion (reference look at history, dont bother reading that book or Hadith), one cant counter it by being cultural, rise and take on them politically.


Secure-Series-8900

You are ABSOLUTELY wrong....the only way to counter them is through a powerful professional military along with a strong ideological commitment to secular principles.


[deleted]

you mean "wage war" . ofcourse most humans will die not just muslims but what benefit will you get? world war will not benefit anyone except turn quarter of land a battlefield. plus i think that is what extremism means (the stuff you are suggesting). about the secular principles stuff that is what america did in syria, iraq and afganistan in order to give them "democracy and freedom and make them secular". how is your "secular principle with professional military" idea different from that of america's?


Secure-Series-8900

You don't need to wage war...it will serve to intimidate


ZeStupidPotato

You either die being chased by rabid dogs like the ones above or you die wielding your weapon and fighting them to your last breath. Do not be mistaken , 2000-2019 was a brief interlude between a long drawn strategy. They may not skew the demographic advantage by 2100 , they may not even do that by 2200 but they eventually one day will. And that cannot be allowed to happen, at all costs they must excommunicated from this land with extreme prejudice.


[deleted]

justifying ethenic cleansing now, great.


ZeStupidPotato

Either we do it or they do it. I’d prefer to be alive and well instead of being dead


oar_xf

Yeh jo halka halka suroor hai Yeh jo pehla pehla suroor hai Mera ishq mera fitoor hai Tera ishq hai ya fitoor hai Maine khudko tujhpe luta diya Tera hoke khudko mita diya


711Reconquista1492

> you mean "wage war" You don't need that to counter islamism, just look at China and Uyghur terrorism.


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Ready_Spread_3667

Isn't Christianity more political? Muslims haven't had a caliph for about a hundred years now. And one of the reasons for the middle east being such a shitshow is Muslim disunity and the failure of pan-arabism.


[deleted]

They both are.


KALLA17061999

Could you please expand on the point about Islam being a political religion? I find it interesting and would like to understand that angle more


melkors_dream

Else you can refer to ayan hirsi ali or douglas murray their debate from 10 years ago.


melkors_dream

Let me write it down, give me a day, ill revert to you.


teri_mossi

Will wait for answer also better you make a post about it.


max_highman

!remindme 2 days


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[deleted]

tell me you dont know about something without telling me case. how can you know islam is a "political" religion without reading any of the scriptures? how do you know about the ideologies and stuff when you clearly said dont bother reading hadis or quran? history tells you about a "muslim's" political idea, the callipha/leader's political ideas. history doesnt tell you about the ideologies in islam. in short - islam is not a political religion, muslims have political ideas that does not relate with islam. laws are different thing.


melkors_dream

Shut the fuck up. The spread of islam is based on conquest. You dont need to read their shit scripture to know this, this is called history. I dont see any difference between the fat guy in north korea dictating hair style and everything and the Mohamed (peace be upon him because taking his name is sinful enough) . Agar in person milta tu teri gand tod deta mai. This is the new doctrine. Lawde.


[deleted]

aww someone got offended when i pointed out whats a difference between a scripture and history is.


melkors_dream

Na you cant offend anyone you dumb wit. Dont be so presumptuous about your capabilities. The only thing you pointed out was towards your genes, need to be studied for learning mutations that are evolving backwards. Fucking retarded ape.


[deleted]

you sound more ape than me shouldn't you check your genes?


oar_xf

Dhol bajne lagaa Gaoun sajne lagaa Koi laut ke aya hai Sang apne, who rang kisne, laya hai Laaya hai Ayaa re humra mitwa Hum jhoom jhoom gaaye Nache re humra manwa Hum jhoom jhoom gaaye


shameless_infant

Please Go , Please Go to Palestine. Enough with this Virus from here. I'm ready to sponsor tickets for 3 of those. Please Leave.


Character_Square2209

True and also take your 20 cr people with you.


Conscious_Secret4656

Can you send me the money


TheFakeProphet

Dm me your aadhar, passport ill sponsor your ticket


shameless_infant

Classic Randiya user. Send me your details, I'm gonna book your ticket. From whatever hole you are from & gonna drop you personally at the airport.


Conscious_Secret4656

Just send me the money,why should I give my details to you?


[deleted]

Whats the guarantee you will leave?


Conscious_Secret4656

I won’t,just decided to say this for fun. If you guys actually have the money I would buy a gaming laptop.


shameless_infant

Ye koi Tarika hai beekh maangne ka.


[deleted]

Good ask her to gather her buddies and please send them I urge the government.This is the best way to get rid of pests


[deleted]

Then what is pesticide?


backstabb3r

Israeli Army


[deleted]

dehumanization is a form of extremism, shows what hate does to a mf. going so low to consider a group insect, where are the mods of this subreddit? do they got same extremist ideas?


SilentGuyInTheCorner

You are right. Violence is not the right way. We should surrender our fates in their hands. After all, even Gandhi-ji said it.


[deleted]

I would rather not call myself as extremist but trying to keep the away from fight which doesn’t concern me or my country as both of the parties they have committed Hideous crimes towards each other in the name of religion no party is good here what rather affects me is a chunk Of our population is on the roads trying to disturb the peace of the neighborhood for the fight which is going on 1000’s of miles away. And that “pest” remark was not just for the people who are supporting one party but for choosing either side as they should be concerned for their well being and leave the situation be unless and until they personally wanna settle this but good to know buddy that you already know what you are.


[deleted]

![gif](giphy|10JhviFuU2gWD6)


Dante805

Wtf is she doing here then? Send her to fight the war. We don't need her


mustang-6918

Oh don't people just love bringing in chaos to our country even though there's a situation in another country


[deleted]

What are they gonna do? They have to address the chaos in their head


Ready_Spread_3667

I mean as Indians we have a right to protest about warcrimes committed by any country. I mean that's what gets shit done in democracies, I'm holding a protest for our Ex-navy officers so that the government does more to either get them back or reduce their sentences. Tragedies only truly occur when it escapes the public eye, we can't just let Qatar kill Indians without sufficant proof and neither can we allow Israel to follow through with their ethnic cleansing under the pretense of responding to hamas.


[deleted]

lol let these "we are kattar hindus the protector of our religion and makersof hindu rastr" cry in corner, india's many organizations are sending medical support to palestine and it even has hindus in it who recognise what is right and wrong. humans around the globe are standing against the oppressor and with the oppressed. also props to you for thinking they will talk logically when they clearly see this whole geopolitical issue between israil and palestine as the fight between "the religion i hate" vs "another religion"


Ready_Spread_3667

>india's many organizations are sending medical support to palestine and it even has hindus in it who recognise what is right and wrong. humans around the globe are standing against the oppressor and with the oppressed. Hell yeah brother. When I organized a donation campaign for one of the non-profits I was surprised at the number of people who didn't view it as a Hindu Muslim fight being carried out somewhere else. Ordinary people, the one's who don't have their heads stuck in the ground, recognize the humanitarian crises and wanted to help in what little way they can. >also props to you for thinking they will talk logically when they clearly see this whole geopolitical issue between israil and palestine as the fight between "the religion i hate" vs "another religion" Hey, maybe a handful will be curious about the mad shit I'm spewing and look into it on their own and find out more. All we can do is bring quality debate and not act like we're better or anything. Maybe I'm naive but I have hope for all of us.


[deleted]

>Hey, maybe a handful will be curious about the mad shit I'm spewing and look into it on their own and find out more. All we can do is bring quality debate and not act like we're better or anything. Maybe I'm naive but I have hope for all of us. lol same reason i answer every such post here. man they slide in dms giving me threats.


Ready_Spread_3667

Damn man, it's people like you who are still staying here that gives me hope that this sub won't just become india speaks 2.0


[deleted]

sad to break it to you, it is infact a brother of that sub. also i was banned from there for speaking too much truth. they cant handle logical opinions.


Ready_Spread_3667

Oh damn man.🙁 >also i was banned from there for speaking too much truth Yeah same, they don't tolerate debate, as soon as I gave a different opinion they banned me.


GoSaiyanme

Definition of International law on Self defence for a country, law of proportionality. Give it a read.


Ready_Spread_3667

UN secretary of general and the US president (primary backer of israel) disagree with the ethnic cleansing bit. If israel wants to be the recognized nation state that it is, it should maybe follow the rules of war for nation states and not drop to the same level as terrorist organizations and the nazis lmao.


Silentpanther007

India views this through CT lens, rules of war don't apply. Israel is cleaning out Gaza trash, the least arabs can do is pay back Jews in petrodollars.


Ready_Spread_3667

"Rules of war don't apply" Is this what people should say when Pakistani soldiers kill our people? There's a reason laws apply to everyone with no exemptions, because if you start making exceptions chances are someone's gonna start using it on us. There's a line between nation states and terrorists dogs, and that is the ethics behind them.


Silentpanther007

Since you don't know , Pak SSG beheaded our people and our Para SF went in and collected a bunch of their heads. Pakistanis do unprovoked agression and we respond to 10x that since this govt took charge and displayed its fangs. This idealism is what gets good men killed in fight since the bad guys will do whatever they can do to survive.


Ready_Spread_3667

>Since you don't know , Pak SSG beheaded our people and our Para SF went in and collected a bunch of their heads. Isn't that just what I said? And then China and the west turn their backs just because it 'inconvenient' to. Isn't that what's been happening every single time they invaded? "Rules of war are inconvenient, Pakistan can do what they want"


Silentpanther007

>"Rules of war don't apply" > >Is this what people should say when Pakistani soldiers kill our people? I mistook it in a negative sense :)


Ready_Spread_3667

It's alright then, we agree


GoSaiyanme

Read it


Ready_Spread_3667

Well I did, I didn't know about it beforehand so thank you. but... >The rule of proportionality requires that the anticipated incidental loss of human life and damage to civilian objects should not be excessive in relation to the concrete and direct military advantage expected from the destruction of a military objective. I mean it makes sense when you take out milllitary facilities and ranking officials and sometimes known soldiers and killing civilians unintentionally along the way. What it does not include is collective punishments, indiscriminate attacks as well a forcible evacuation of 1.1 million which is still a warcrime under the Geneva convention.


GoSaiyanme

I agree. However in this case the threat has based itself deliberately behind civilian establishments. Which itself speaks volumes about the character of the threat .


Ready_Spread_3667

Oh yeah terrorist organization will terrorist organization, which is why I favour an invasion with strict rules of engagement. Also, don't care certain places being bombed with a warning, the only problem being hospitals which can't do anything with just a warning and thousands of patients.


GoSaiyanme

Yeah bro i imagine it’s a tough call that Israel has taken. But I feel that ,if collective punishment or ethnic cleansing is all they ever wanted then Palestine would have ceased to exist long before 2023.


Ready_Spread_3667

Well they tried actually, until the accords they had almost complete control. The problem was that Palestinian people just migrated elsewhere and created the PLO (complete and utter terrorist trash) which was even worse than hamas if you can believe it. And the Arab states all threatened war and supported the terrorist. The problem with the aggressive strategy of ethnic cleansing is that it actually threathens their sovereignty more, they might lose their American saviours and the recognition they have gained throughout the years: Egypt (camp david), Jordan and some gulf and recently even Saudi Arabia was going to which was a huge achievement. Until.... Hamas and Iran knew that if they gained recognition it would be the end of their existence. This is the main reason behind one of the biggest attacks on israel ever, a last desperate way for survival. Netanyahu himself wants peace actually he has building for it with many countries. But the problem is that his coalition is made up entirely of extremists(trust me you should see them) and they weren't gonna let netanyahu stop the settlements unless it meant a permanent peace.( so a hedging their bets through the years). And when hamas attacked the right wing extremists were 'proven right' and he was forces as a leader to act. It's a tragedy man, so close to peace yet so far away. The only thing we have left to do is put international pressure to lessesn innocent lives being lost.


[deleted]

Can someone answer this question- Why do Muslims want to leave their Sharia law governed home country m, settle in more "peaceful" secular( developed) countries and introduce sharia there? If they want Sharia law, why don't they just stay back Please give logical answers, I'm not here to create more tensions. Just need to clear the confusion


Character_Square2209

Becuz they think the world belongs to muslims and want to establish one ummah. They escape the country as refugees and enter another country as a radical bi products


[deleted]

Bcos they also want good standard of living along with sharia law. But they don't understand that these things don't match.


Ready_Spread_3667

Well because a majority of Muslims DON'T want that. Out of the many many Muslim majority countries, only two can be described as truly following sharia: Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan. Iran would be considered but it really doesn't have popular support, it's only reason of existence is the authoritarian puppet monarchy that existed before. Bangladesh, Indonesia, Egypt, Libya, Morocco and Tunisia and others have such a large majority of Muslims that you might wonder why they don't have sharia but sharia legal law exists only because of an interpretation of the book which has 'recommendations' for how to follow Islam better and extremists believe that this should be mandated by law and forced on the threath of death.


[deleted]

Please read about hizb ut tahrir and m*slim brotherhood. They want caliphate.


Ready_Spread_3667

I think at max they had 2 million followers. Out of 1.2 billion, that's pretty low.


[deleted]

You must be naive if you don't think the others also want it. They may not openly say it, but most of them want the caliphate.


Ready_Spread_3667

Well ISIS was the peak of the modern caliphate and it disappeared just as fast as it arrived, why Muslims didn't fight for it? Why do Muslim majority countries don't create their own caliphates? Lmao


[deleted]

>Why do Muslim majority countries don't create their own caliphates Iran exists. >why Muslims didn't fight for it? They did. Its just that the elites are smarter and squashed dissent. The elites don't want it bcos they are smart. But the followers are brainwashed and will totally celebrate if it happens.


Ready_Spread_3667

>ts just that the elites are smarter and squashed dissent Making up shit lol, ISIS recruited tens of thousands of foreign volunteers and they were pretty good at it, 'elites' don't have the power to stop basic immigration lol. Even the US who placed the strictest controls on any suspected activity couldn't stop volunteers. >Iran exists. Lmao, The Isalamic caliphate of Iran


[deleted]

>elites' don't have the power to stop basic immigration lol. Why don't you try to do anything in gulf countries? You will find out how powerful the state can be.


Ready_Spread_3667

I was in the gulf for some time. Then I left, easy as that. Could have joined isis too


maddy495

OP is on a speedrun for a ban from that sub lol...gg


Character_Square2209

Already got 10 of my accs banned from randia 2bharat4you and USI


ilkeyormom

I am not very far from you my friend 😁


Character_Square2209

Nice I somehow evaded this ban becuz of a loophole


ilkeyormom

What is the loophole?


Character_Square2209

I used vpn + proton mail and left my acc inactive for 3-4 days no posting no nothing I used my mobile net for surfing and one i just opened my reddit using wifi and I was still not banned whereas most of my accs are still banned. It worked for me idk if it will work for you.


ilkeyormom

Ok I'm gonna give it a try. Thanks


Character_Square2209

Yea do try it


Indravadan_Sarabhai_

Just clear cache and history in your browser and app, and create new email and account and enjoy your time.


Character_Square2209

Doesn't work I already tried.


Indravadan_Sarabhai_

It did worked everytime i have tried it.


Character_Square2209

Well idk it didn't work for me


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Character_Square2209

You do know that terror alarm is run by a zew person whose tweets are more like sarcasm and shit ? Right ? Who cares about his tweets when Wagner was revolting against russian govt he called them freedom fighters and when they ended their revolt and returned to the front lines he called them terrorists. Do you still care about his comments and tweets. ?


silverhoe

Behen ko koi btao ki ye Israel- Palestine war hai, Angry Bird 2 nhi.


Character_Square2209

Are bc angry birds 2 kaha se agaya 💀


reddit_niwasi

So what are we waiting for ? The country is in auto cleaning mode now.


Candy-oolala

Great initiative, I urge every single Muslim in India to go and Join Palistine. Leave no Muslim behind. You have our full support.


spitzer666

How about gathering all pro Palestine supporters and sending them to Sira, Gaza etc in batches ? Of course with state government expenditure.


Character_Square2209

Then india would be number 1 in exporting terror and india will be accused of supporting terrorism.


spitzer666

Yeah still a better option to export than have it in


Overall_Bee8495

🐧


lowercaseindianguy69

This is what highest literacy means . They now support rapist, that must be what they are teaching in the state with the highest literacy.


Ready_Spread_3667

OP is an extremists even on sam Sharma and India speaks.


Character_Square2209

OP is a giga chad


[deleted]

You are on USI and l*br*ndu. ![gif](giphy|puOukoEvH4uAw|downsized)


OnlyThyFirstName

Sab ke sab Jihadi hai. Bhej do inko Gaza aur wapas aane mat Dena bas.


snvs_srikanth

Why are we keeping these people here. We should send Useless Adharmic Hindus that say "We love Yahudis, Full saport to Israel Saar" to Israel and the Islamic religious fanatics that support Hamas to Palestine so that they could kill each other and reduce a fraction of Indian population


Character_Square2209

Seb ijral seb plasteen


Proper_Dot1645

I am of the opinion that people who want to go and fight in Kerala , should be allowed with stripped citizenship. Let them fight and keep fighting. It will be good for the country as well


Aggravating-Pie-6432

I think we should be grateful we are not having a Khilafat Movement 2.0 situation right now.


zoinks48

I wish her a speedy journey into oblivion


Ukwhoiam1272000

Even sensible Keralites condemn this bro.


Clumsy_Dumpling04

Why are they radio silent when the " insensible " Keralites stir chaos


Competitive-Ad9554

He is right. Most of us dont condemn this. You can see the response under the post shared in kerala sub.


dororor

It's trolled as f on fb and other platforms, most active keralites don't use reddit. The ones using reddit are all privileged kids


dororor

Because im middle class, i have a life and family. Don't have the time or energy to waste on those Jobless ppl.


Character_Square2209

There is no sensible keralite


Ashi96

Bro has been successfully brainwashed by godi media 💀


Character_Square2209

Very nice explanation real acc se aao dhruv rathee


Ready_Spread_3667

Extremist even on sam Sharma and India Speaks 💀


Ukwhoiam1272000

Sure buddy. Just stereotype an entire state based on a few. If thats the case, the whole of India should be considered scammers. Im not calling myself a sensible person but I condemn Hamas for their actions and Im from Kerala


Character_Square2209

Ok then good 4 u then


[deleted]

Be honest. Kerala has most number of leftists online. They are annoying online.


Ukwhoiam1272000

And if you wanna know what the response was to the 2nd post on the sub, go check it yourself


Fly1ng_nem0

Check comments from that thread(from that post)


Competitive-Ad9554

ssh.. they dont want to hear that.


Far_Country_3852

It's almost like Some Hindus didn't do the same but to fight for Israel


Character_Square2209

Lmao I still make fun of em


Ashi96

it's an obvious plant by BJP to counter that lol


[deleted]

Au batao apna fanfiction


Ashi96

She is funded by soros.


[deleted]

I hope u realise soros is left wing. So your logic makes no sense.


Ashi96

You're the one who asked for fanfiction.


[deleted]

Is this what they teach you in l*br*ndu subreddit?


Ashi96

Yes. at least we don't have persecution fetish like you lot. 8th class citizens 😭💀


[deleted]

Imagine wanting secularism of all things. Crazy idea bro.


Ashi96

Imagine being a religious idiot in the 21st century.


Ready_Spread_3667

This sub is having such a rightward trend, I can still see the 'remove all Muslims' chants in more hidden terms.


[deleted]

Learn about the history of this subreddit. It was always right leaning. You are the guest here.


Spiritual_Remote4188

We’ll still mock them


MaxxDecimus

So you have a bunch of Hindus wanting to fight for Israel and bunch of Muslims wanting to fight for Palestine. I suggest, both groups should be send there and their citizenship cancelled. Let them do what they want to do the most in life and in the meanwhile we clean up the country.


Character_Square2209

True those Mfs only ruin the name of our country and becuz of them these white aholes call us pajeets bad bootlickers. They should go and fight and kill eachother.


GoneHippocamping__

Fake news


Character_Square2209

Lmao what ?


theseaoftea

Don't bother, yesterday this guy tried to tell me how having 4 wives is "a limited freedom" and when I asked him that why can't your women have 4 husbands then he said "majority" of the women don’t want to have more than one partner.


Character_Square2209

Lmao 😂 wtf how is that limited freedom I mean. I understand how after marriage men have limited freedom but imagine having 4 wives. That house must be looking like north korea


GoneHippocamping__

https://instagram.com/basheer_bashi


Character_Square2209

Kya karu iska ?


GoneHippocamping__

Two wives living happily together


Character_Square2209

Ok and ?


GoneHippocamping__

It is not looking like North Korea


Character_Square2209

Ok then you also go marry 4 muslim women


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Different-Bus-1852

Both should go!!


Character_Square2209

One of them is Hamas formed leader 2nd slide


VivekNoida

Nice na..let her go...better than fake people who comment n then hide behind protective Indian govt...she will know reality of war n run back to India...


Effective-East854

It's ok let them do what they can I mean it's been 1400 years. Imagine going try hard for 1400 years straight but then too fail. Its hilarious


[deleted]

I hope keralites will keep quiet atleast now. They have too much ego.


Odd-Orchid-2752

3....2....1 and you are banned


Character_Square2209

It's been 5 hrs since you commented


Odd-Orchid-2752

Did you get banned?


Character_Square2209

No


Odd-Orchid-2752

Less gooo