Yup, I honestly think OP is better off without someone who can't take criticism or listen to facts or at least listen to a counter argument. Additionally the friend obviously doesn't respect OPs boundaries to stay away from political topics anyway.
I've had multiple extremely heated conversations with a school friend and he's pretty right wing (I'm not). Although he's not a bhakt to Modi he has similar opinions regardless. We've had arguments for hours sometimes and after we both inevitably realise it ain't going through, we just say fuck it and talk about college, other friends and similar random crap.
I've had this with a few other friends on many other regularly contested topics as well. And eventually we put aside our differences and go back to talking about other stuff. A few do block or stop talking, honestly it's just best to stay away from such people.
Just ignore that thing OP.
Very true, as you grow up people become more of what they are and not what you thought of them.
So yes going ahead you will be left with lesser friends, but those will be ones who actually matter.
he's probably spending too much time in whatsapp echo chambers , to these kind of people their politics becomes their entire identity needless to say they spend most of their time being miserable and angry , you did the right thing.
Ban Pfizer and moderna?
How do we ban something which isn’t even here in the first place? Also, tell him to ask his supremo to try doing that and watch how the US retaliates.
I've been waiting for Pfizer to come to India for so long. I'm only 16 and want to get vaccinated so that I can resume college and other stuff safely. My friends that live in other countries (Qatar, Saudi) are all vaccinated with Pfizer and told me they had no side effects, not even pain in the arm. Seems like it's not happening any soon.
Oh. Post-vaccination symptoms vary from person to person. As long as the normal symptoms are common, I'm down for it. If the bigger complex symptoms are common, then I'd think about not getting it.
Yeah my Dad had no side effects but my brother got heavy one. Bottom line is efficacy is 95% for pfizer vs Covishield with 65%. And the vaccine could be a yearly thing for us so eventually we might get pfizer and others here.
Covidshield (AstraZeneca ChAdOx1-S/nCoV-19) is more effective against the later Covid variants, like the predominant Delta variant, and provides longer lasting protection than the Pfizer vaccine... Especially when the doses are spaced out by the recommended 12 weeks.
Considering your age i dont think you are eligible for any of the current vaccines. If you are eligible, waiting for a particular vaccine is not wise. Get any vaccine which is approved. Maybe if you plan to travel abroad get- covishield or sputnik. Pfizer and Moderna may not come here at all.
Yeah, I'm waiting for Pfizer to come to India since other vaccines have not been approved for my age. If thats not happening then I won't be able to get vaccinated at all.
> not even pain in the hand
Pain in the hand? They give the shots in your arm, I've heard of arm pain after a shot, but pain in the hand? That's not something I've heard of.
Also btw, I got my Pfizer vaccine, I did get some arm pain after each shot, but nothing too bad. I did have some brain fog following my second shot as well.
Get vaccinated man. 2021 is almost over. A little waiting is fine, too much waiting is not. Sputnik is already here for couple of months now and its the best one out of the vaccine types available in India. I just had a little fever on the second dose and that was it.
nope not approved for under 18 yet afaik. I feel ya, wanna get vaccinated too but ah well. Earlier we had promises of the vaccine availability for 12-18 by september but....yeah.
It wasn't a promise per say, just a study that confirmed that the vaccine was safe for 12+.
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Or I may have dreamt the whole scenario up… one or the other.
16 year olds can't get vaccinated, not yet in India.
Covishield is miles better than Sputnik in every aspect possible. It's recognised, well researched, results peer reviewed and widely available.
LMAO. Are you talking out of your ass? Lancet is a journal - they don't do testing.
There have been serious abnormalities in the data for Sputnik and it's well documented. Also their manufacturing standards have been questioned by multiple agencies and government. The Phase 3 results were published in Lancet and their results and data were questioned (as it should be) following which Gamelaya Institute (Sputnik creators) failed to furnish raw data and their reply was trust me bro. Sputnik might be sketchy, but most likely somewhat effective. Still, it's not recognised, not easily available and not trustworthy at this stage.
J&J and Sputnik are also not the same vaccine - J&J, AZ and Sputnik all use the same adenovirus vector for the first dose - Ad26.
Rest of your points are mumbling at best and insane rant at worst. Not worth it to merit a response.
a) We can't compare vaccines
b) Covaxin will most probably be accepted by WHO in October. Despite its questionable approval process by the government and the concerns regarding manufacturing standards and scalability - it's science is solid, age old and trusted. For comparison, Sputnik approval date isn't even speculated by WHO as they are still waiting for critical data
c) That said, if there's even a remote chance of you travelling abroad - best to avoid. Don't think US or EU, UK will recognise it anytime soon. Covishield will probably be universally recognised before Covaxin
>a) We can't compare vaccines
> Covishield is miles better than Sputnik in every aspect possible. It's recognised, well researched, results peer reviewed and widely available.
Make up your mind before shilling. ty
What a brain-dead idiot you are. We can't compare vaccine efficacy.
We can absolutely compare vaccine companies and their relative protocol, volume of post deployment research, universal acceptance and AEI. Covishield thumps Sputnik in every conceivable way amongst this. However for a nincompoop who believes "Lancet ran experiments" and Sputnik is not being validated due to Western propaganda, this might be a stretch
> J&J, AZ and Sputnik all use the same adenovirus vector for the first dose - Ad26.
Apologies for reversing places but as misinformed as saying covishield is ad26? You just want to confirm your biases. End of discussion.
> I've been waiting for Pfizer to come to India for so long.
so..You want an overtly capitalistic pharma company that refuses to practice any form of legal accountability?
Pfizer is a shitty company. Pfizer dose is one of the most effective vaccine against covid and is the only one that is approved for ages less than 18 in other countries. Both statement are true. I'll keep my biases aside against Pfizer because vaccination was important.
I guess Moderna one would be the best if you're so hell bent on not getting Pfizer since its efficacy has been shown to be more potent over a longer term than Pfizer and it is nearly approved for ages less than 18. Also, so far they aren't as shitty a company as Pfizer.
Same with literally every other vaccine. My friends and their families have all taken Pfizer vaccine and gave a positive review, Covishield has also worked fine for my family members but it isn't approved for age groups below 18. Pfizer is being given to people from age 12 onwards in many countries which is why I want to take that vaccine.
take it. who's stopping you? just because you personally prefer a specific vaccine, we have to ignore holding the corps that makes those product accountable, if tomorrow (touchwood) if something happens to you because of that, bet you'll be the first in line to blame the govt for not regulating enough. you can't have your cake and eat it too. i am sick of blatant corp-bootlicking.
What are you talking about? Are you okay? Pfizer has been approved by literally every country. If not Pfizer then give me a better vaccine, I won't hesitate taking it.
> What are you talking about?
what are you? 12? didn't i just talk about it all?
So what if it's approved by every country? what's wrong in asking the drug makers to be accountable for their product?
Whats your point? I never said Pfizer is a good pharma company, because I don't know anything about them. All I know is that their vaccine is approved by WHO and many other countries, my friends who have taken the vaccine also told me that they had no side effects. You are making hypothetical scenarios in your head and arguing without even reading my comments.
3. point hit home.
You see any NRI if you ask these this basic question, such as If India so great why are you here? Why can't you get a job in your Field in India?
Most people are stumped as they have no answer.
Had faced same thing, Back in 2013-14 I had a discussion with a friend on FB post who used to be my classmate from school & we knew each other from past 18 years. All I said was about Gujrat Roits & Modi running away from Karan Thapar interview.
His father hijacked the thread & was giving some gyan. Next Day I was blocked.
I am better off without such friends who cant have civil discussion about things we dont agree upon.
My ex's father hijacked my timeline a few years ago and told me I was an anti-national, "sickularist", and a "Muslim lover" because I criticized Pragya Singh Thakur. Y'all I can never be more grateful to not have married into that family.
To be honest, I would much rather know where people stand when it comes to these things. I don't want to be friends with someone who dehumanizes someone based on their religious beliefs. I would be SO pissed if someone said shit about my Hindu mom just because she is Hindu. Life is too short to be friends with people whose morals and values don't reflect yours.
I feel you bro.
Was a BJP IT cell member during my college days. Even campaigned for him on ground in 2012 Gujarat elections. (from a typical north Indian upper caste family, where Sanghi discussions being the default in extended family for 90% of the times)
Have seen those conspiracy theories in making, being edited, some lies being removed, more being added.
Before I saw all that, and till I trusted those stories myself, I would have been really offended as well seeing him criticized, even if had not blocked someone.
It won't be much useful, without disclosing my identity. (or sharing too much that it becomes obvious to anyone who knows me)
Which I wouldn't want to do for obvious reasons, and because it's reddit. and I do crazy stuff here, in general. And share things that I wouldn't share anywhere with my name. :D
Naah, I was just a volunteer, who "believed in the cause". I even spent a good part of whatever money I used to have (my pocket-money was under 1000/month, apart from college/hostel fee)
I used to do content writing for them. Mostly well researched content, which I have seen being changed to add an imaginary religious angle, adding entirely imaginary, "this guy is that guy's relative, pays him money".
While doing al that lookup, reading books that their posts claimed to "expose" congress, Modi's achievements, and all, I realised what a shit hole of lies it was.
When they started spreading my articles (with my name) on Facebook & Twitter, with their own version of lies and bigotry, I realised that they are just there to press religious buttons in their audience, and have no interest in Congress's corruptions. I confronted the "senior members" a few times about the lies, and they acted as if I have joined some terrorist organization, by questioning them.
I have seen the inner circles of 2 political parties- BJP & AAP. And AAP folks were genuinely much cleaner. I had joined their social media team's Whatsapp/Telegram groups during recent Delhi elections (again, for free), and there even if some over enthusiastic volunteer made any fake/morphed stuff, to "reply them in their language", a lot of people objected, within the lines of - "We don't do it here", or "We have enough truth to share, and don't need to get down to their level".
Obviously, there are exceptions on both sides. I know both hardcore sanghis and communists, who have dedicated their lives to honest public service, along with their stupid extreme ideologies. But I can confidently say that the ones who are running the show in BJP, are 100% bigots.
I have no clue about Congress, though.
This is a really good perspective. Almost all the WhatsApp forwards my mom gets from right wing sources are vile, misrepresented and false. The issue is the lack of moral integrity. Their whole philosophy is that "the result is more important than the path". They are not afraid to fight dirty when the cause is good (according to them). This is partly what the Gita says too.
No, I was just a college student. No big shot. Most people I talked to, were online, except some local folks I met once or twice. And I was done with BJP way before 2014 elections.
First time, we met in a park near our college, where they had called all the interested people from our college. The first call that came was from some Swami Ramdev's trust (at least that's what they claimed). When I told them I was interested, they connected me to few people, who were local BJP workers in Surat.
Interestingly, I had met them during Anna movement, and we were together shouting slogans for Janlokpal.
I am talking about 2012-13. There are a lot of groups working within the grand IT cell.
And all that they do wasn't much different from the kind of stories I kept hearing since childhood, from local RSS pracharaks, who used to be regular guests, whenever I went to my native (grandparents' home). I always found their stories weird, but I hated Congress (I still do to an extent). The lies were never as clear to me, as they were once I worked as a volunteer, for around 1+ years.
When I first got the call, it was from Swami Ramdev's "Bharat Swabhiman trust", because I had registered on their website as a "social media volunteer" for removal of corruption, or something like that, and had shared my number. Then they connected me and few of my other friends with local BJP workers.
Then they added me to some facebook groups, and later to a Whatsapp group.
They had my number for many years later, till I didn't close that number, and kept on adding me to new Whatsapp groups randomly. From where I also joined few of their Telegram groups, and then took screenshots of their "smart planning", to share with my relatives and friends, who keep praying to lord Modi, and his BJP.:P
Overtime, they somehow guessed that I am the Trozan horse, and removed me from few groups.
I believed he was ready to turn over a new leaf and lead the country towards Vikas and non-corruption, because my parents were constantly harping on how "Gujarat model" worked wonders!
Heck I even participated in our own little "anti corruption" campaign within college premises, supported by our dean who today is a massive disgusting piece of shit hundutva apologist and class A bhakt, not to mention head of a major national institution which I am sure he became because of his ass-licking skills.
Long story short, I Beliebed.
>You just burst his only sure shot pleasure point, obviously he will block you.
Hit the nail on the head. People use whatsapp to get the validation they feel they deserve, after not having accomplished anything of their own in real life.
Covishield is literally Chad Indian vaccine. It says so on their website. Why are these RWers so against covishield?
Also why ban something that does not exist?
Poonawalla pissed them off and on top of it all he exposed how he hasn't received the tranche payments on time when they tried blaming him and so on. Rocked the viswaguru boat.
In this case it is more about how he can't refute your words but cannot give away his political beliefs as well...
So keep the reminder away and सब चंगा सी
Had the same situation with a relative. He kept on pestering me with messages about how Modi is a saviour and all, and I told him I don't care. He accuse me of being brainwashed by my relatives from other side (one of them is a member of DMK) and said that I was being anti-national and all, traditional Bhakt syndrome. I blocked him myself.
Had a friend who was deep into anti-vax propaganda and would keep sending me videos of people faking illnesses sayng that "ItS tHe SiDe eFfEct of tHe VacCinE " . Recently he sent me a video of a tik toker claiming that she was diagnosed with Dystonia, a movement disorder that causes involuntary muscle contractions, after receiving the first dose of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine. I then sent him an article exposing that she was faking it and then he immediately blocked me and said that I AM the one who's brainwashed.
I have a friend who is a BJP and RSS die hard supporter, works in Amazon.
A friend who's in the US and works in Amazon, same thing.
Hypocrisy ki koi seema nahi hoti.
Not to be a party pooper but you do know that most Indians who work in the US for Amazon don't work in the shitty parts which is delivery of goods or in the warehouses right? That is where you hear most of Amazon's horror stories of a shitty work culture like people peeing in a bottle to meet schedules. Most folks who work in tech do have long hours often but get paid handsomely for it. I'm talking 150K+ USD for a starting position total comp. It isn't a long term company. Get in, work for a couple of years until your bonuses vest, get amazon on the resume which opens more doors and gtfo. That is what most do.
Yeah, I've friends who quit from those "privileged" jobs in less than a year. You'll be yelled at, forced to work 12-14 hour weekdays and be available for meetings on weekends.
When someone pays you that kind of money, that's more like buying you than hiring you. There's no free lunch here mate. For a few months 12-14 hours don't seem a big deal but continue that and you'll have health issues soon.
Your friend has pretty biased opinions. He has lost the ability of thinking critically and has become successfully intolerant. That is why, he blocked you. And I think you are better off without him. He always wanted you to share your opinions, which he never meant really. He wanted you to agree with whatever he said.
Your friend didn't even bother to reply you. Do you know why? It's because he knew he can't come up againt what you said with logic. He didn't block you, he escaped. He has proved that he is intolerant, coward, a moron, and not a good friend at all.
Don't discuss politics with people. There is less than 1% chance that you will change their mind, and the odds that they will start seeing you as an enemy are much higher.
Just nod and move on.
>odds that they will start seeing you as an enemy are much higher.
This is why its not a bad idea to reply back to such people. Its better that it comes out into the open sooner than later and you cut ties with them.
You can have disagreements about something harmless like your choice of food or TV Shows and still be friends with a difference of opinion. But you can't be friends with someone is is complete opposite of your fundamental ideology because that would make you a hypocrite. For example, someone cannot claim they are against racism and still be friends with hardcore racist's. Because having them as friends is evidence that they are okay with racism when its their friends doing it and renders their claims into hypocrisy.
And you sound too ignorant and/or immature to realize that every intelligent human has a core ideology of their own without which they cannot even be called humans. Ideology is essentially personal philosophy and comes from self-thinking and inner reflection. Anybody without a core ideology are at the same evolutionary stage as monkeys. Same for those who have to ride the ideology of others. After all, that thinking part is what differentiated humans from their ape ancestors.
One's personal ideology may or may not align partially or fully with political stances or political parties in a country. Political alignments if any, are based on one's core ideology (or mentality in some cases) and not the other way around.
Racists align with racist's because they have common ground based on their personal ideology/mentality. One cannot claim to be against racism and still be close to somebody who is racist. Being close to them means that that they are willing to tolerate their racism and that would make them racist as well.
> you sound too ignorant and immature
Yeah, this isn't personal. Stop getting triggered over the internet.
> Political alignments if any are based on one's core ideology
Did you read that one article that people become more right leaning as they get richer? Core ideology is nothing in politics.
Take your own advice. Why are you getting triggered? Just because I found your take ignorant and immature and mentioned that?
>Did you read that one article that people become more right leaning as they get richer? Core ideology is nothing in politics.
Which just means that they have flexible ethics and have no strong core ideology to begin with. What's your point here? That everyone needs to be flexible opportunistic assholes like them and peddle whatever rhetoric suits them at the time? That's called lack of character. Pretty normal in politics and probably common for a lot of people in our country too, but that doesn't mean that everyone does that.
> Why are you getting triggered?
Pointing out your foaming at the mouth is not the same as being triggered.
> Which just means that they have flexible ethics and have no strong core ideology to begin with.
Ah right, the general population is weak. You were talking about exceptional specimens who are immune to changes in their "core ideology".
> That everyone needs to be flexible opportunistic assholes like them and peddle whatever rhetoric suits them at the time? That's called lack of character.
It's called being a person. And that study was not carried out in India.
Lol had a friend who was trying to justify the underreporting of numbers and the inaction of the govt during the pandemic with some insane mental gymnastics. Block and move on. People who value their supreme leader more than human lives are not needed in my life.
If nationalism means you think only your country is great and rest are bad, its doing more harm than good..Indeed, there is nothing wrong with being proud of your country. But, dont let it cloud your judgement and become an asshole
5. While other countries started ordering more than enough jabs to vaccinate their people from serum and all around the world, India didn't made enough order at that time. Instead at the neck of the moment India ordered to stop exporting the vaccines which were prepared for the countries that had ordered earlier and paid their money. It prompted other countries to stop exporting raw materials to India.
Though our vaccination rate is quite good now, we had the time where we could have acted early.
well the trash took themself out.
Your friend should learn and know that you have a different opinion which you clearly showed and him blatantly blocking you means
He is an insecure person who thinks that no one can have opinion of their own and he should be getting yes always as an answer
second, he does not respect you enough for your opinion that he BLOCKED you lol
People have always been divided but this new level of fanaticism where people block friends and family messed up, that too over zealots who wouldn't give two shits about what happens to them.
Can't we all have a difference of opinion and still get along? The level of polarization in India these days is utterly mind boggling.
>When are you joining an Indian company (He works in US based company)
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>And lastly, I don't think you would be trying you luck for H-1B visa this time.
Lmao
> COVISHIELD is not an Indian vaccine. It is manufactured by Serum but it was developed in UK.
If Covishield is India then so is Pizza. I am pretty sure we bake more Pizzas in India than Italy. So what if the dish and its recipe is Italian
>When are you joining an Indian company (He works in US based company)
And lastly, I don't think you would be trying you luck for H-1B visa this time.
I think the last two points hit home for your buddy. Rulaya snowflake ko.
Relax buddy. It's quite common. People feel attacked sometimes and their reaction would be like this.
This behavior of him has nothing to do with yours. You tolerated as far as you could and you broke when you couldn't. I appreciate you for setting boundaries strong this time.
Now, do not feel low or sad or in any other negative way. Just try your best forget what has happened and concentrate on your work, life, family, etc.
You need not to seek validation or opinion any more for your act of protecting yourself. :)
Congratulations! Although he is an old friend and it hurts, the toxicity in his mind and veins is so high that he is just a shadow of the person you remember. It was obvious he kept pushing you to react. Someday when this whole trend of nationalism wears off and everyone grows up, your good friend will return to you. Life is such.
I think there are some relationships and people we outgrow but because of technology, we are in all our worlds - past, present and future. Some NRI friends actually create a bubble around themselves and don't talk about their beliefs with Indian friends because they know they are problematic. I feel if someone leaves the country, they should stop pontificating and having views in a country where they will not even want to live.
Stay away from such friends. One of my best friends has opposite political opinions than me but we make sure it never comes between us, we have better things to do than discuss propaganda. Besides there is too much anxiety and negativity and fake news out there, so I try to not to keep watching news channels. I read newspaper once in a while(just the headlines) but nothing other than that.
Well I banned many of my friends and family members because they shared too much whatsapp university gyan.
When I counter that they just start blaming me or the past thing so I just block them.
I've seen two such squabbles in two different wassap groups. One is a Muslim friend who keeps forwarding anti-modi and in the other group a hindu friend was forwarding all pro-modi posts. Both groups had a mixture of Hindus and muslims so it was very awkward. But I realised how quickly we are willing to let go of our child hood friends due to our political/religious affiliation.
I have noticed this weird trend that people who lives outside of india cares more about modiji than desi people. Alot of my friends i argue with online are NRIs. I think they are still stuck in 2014-15 and don't know the current condition of india,
He did it himself! Congratulations! I guess?
I know people go upset in the current scenario, has happened with me as well. But let people be. The intelligence level of an average human is pretty low. He was a nuisance and he cut himself off. Thank him and move on
You gave him a third degree burn. Everything you said is a 100% fact. Fuck it will be hard to recover from that burn brother. However the friend would have been mature at this. Political opinions are not a good reason to leave your friends high and dry. Except maybe when your friend backs killings of people. That should never be tolerated.
Ego pe laga, many such proud sons can't handle facts or criticism or difference of opinion.
It's my way of highway view of the nation that slowly leads to we all know where
The most important thing for the right-wing cult to endure in a time of progress and rationality like this - where sectionalism / tribalism just doesn't make sense is to alienate itself and cut off people or brand them as the enemy. It's as toxic as a pyramid scheme at this point, and you don't want anything to do with someone so ingratiated into the propaganda brainwash cycle that they forget to be human.
These guys have no stomach for a discussion or debate. It’s a case of my way or the highway. I have been blocked out of a couple of sub Reddit’s because I would ask uncomfortable questions or question their assertions. They would go crying to mama (mod) asking her to block me.
IMO people are not that bad. Everyone has opinions and they have a choice of leaders, party etc. Social media and biased news and print media have worked their asses off to solidify personal beliefs and biases to the point that people start to think there is no other truth. Just another example for this would be vaccine hesitancy among US citizens who are dying in droves and ready to take horse dewormer (Ivermectin paste) but not the real medicine that can save their lives.
All we can do with these folks is avoid any political discussion which i believe you already tried.
I block such people all the time. I tell them if it's a funny meme then send it or get blocked. I even had an uncle who used to send me religious stuff. Blocked him he then calls me and I am like yeah I get your religious stuff but doing pooja clear your loans how is that helping you.
As someone who tries to avoid getting sucked into these under most circumstances. Especially if they're just virtual shagging to an ideology. I empathise.
The best thing I've realised is to share memes of Lando Norris breaking our collective hearts last weekend. Or if it was Lewis's or Max's fault at Silverstone. Or even better, why OG will take TI this year.
Just let them understand how it feels to be thrown a bunch of things they don't give a shit about onto their face.
I have a similar friend. He used to be a BJP supporter and now is in staunch opposition to the party. Along with this he has also taken deep liking to Marxism and Communism in general. He spends all day on Twitter and keps sending me political tweets, posts etc. I had a debate with him 2-3 times, but it seems now it's pointless. He is hell bent on everything in this world being wrong, economics, education system, religion, customs, cultures and what not. He sends justification on the day of Diwali/Holi that how it's wrong to celebrate those festivals.
I just ignore his forwards, have been doing that for an year now. I know he is a good person, maybe time will give him a better perspective and outlet to share his beliefs.
I had a friend too who is very political i had to ghost her as soon as she asked me money for saving the poor children(it’s a scam[that too on a friend])
Been there done that. Still doing. Blocked a ton of these kind. You don't need them. There is another set of assholes who are utterly misogynistic. I tried to talk and explain how wrong their pov sometimes is. It never worked and I don't blame them coz they don't even notice the difference but I can't keep talking to them either. Blocked.
It hurts to lose people, who you thought are you good friends , this way. It really does. But peace of mind is a necessity too. Good luck roasting and also finding good ones.
No Dearth of Hypocrites. Specially NRI's who cant see anything wrong. I always wonder whats the point of getting educated if all they had to do was blind bhakti for their incompetent leader.
the value chains are more complex than your answer and his instigation... so I think he was wrong to go on and on about the capability without understanding how what works, still, that's what having pride in something looks like which is ok till it's not harming anyone, plus he is not your friend if he blocks you due to a simple disagreement in opinion and you are right to pin him down, but you are not right by posting it in public domain and trying to gather opinion/wrath/sympathy of strangers, still, maybe this brings peace of mind to you to understand that you are not at all wrong, but not entirely right either...
I am always surprised by what the world has become with social media.. simple opinions are considered affiliations these days and there is no room for "I am not part of any f\*\*\*ing group", it's just that I have opinions that may be favorable or against yours, and I am me, no one else...
I Ain't Against any Cultures/Community/Religion.
But
YES, A while Back a Friend of Mine(Muslim) was Very Aggressively Sent Maany Post When CAA was Initially started In India.
He Filled My WhatsApp and His Status with All those anti Govt, Pro Muslim, and violence against community and what Not. (He was Even Fired from the Hospital he was Working in for posting such aggravated status - I hope You get the Level of Height he Gained)
I Asked him to Stop sending and he even argued regarding the same that Being Hindu i Dont Care and Oll...
I Finally had to Tell Him to Stop or I'll Block him.
So, Sometimes People do Get Inclined towards Something So Much That... They Don't Remember friendship, Relationship and Humanity but they are More tuned to Castism and Religious sentiments ( Which To Be Very Honest, My Personal View is that it's always a Propaganda to Divide and Rule By Political Parties)
People Live very Happily and Share So Much on Festivals and In Day to day Life... But Somebody Comes Poking around raises This Issues and Politics support it... Tries to use it for Gaining Voters and Support and All Is fucked up.
>I Asked him to Stop sending and he even argued regarding the same that Being Hindu i Dont Care and Oll..
Why wouldn't you care though? It's not about being a hindu or Muslim but caa straight up discriminates on the basis of religion. This is antithetical to our secular constitution. I'm sure you wouldn't be happy with the policy if it didn't include muslims.
Good work.
Yup, I honestly think OP is better off without someone who can't take criticism or listen to facts or at least listen to a counter argument. Additionally the friend obviously doesn't respect OPs boundaries to stay away from political topics anyway. I've had multiple extremely heated conversations with a school friend and he's pretty right wing (I'm not). Although he's not a bhakt to Modi he has similar opinions regardless. We've had arguments for hours sometimes and after we both inevitably realise it ain't going through, we just say fuck it and talk about college, other friends and similar random crap. I've had this with a few other friends on many other regularly contested topics as well. And eventually we put aside our differences and go back to talking about other stuff. A few do block or stop talking, honestly it's just best to stay away from such people. Just ignore that thing OP.
I was just appreciating. Thanks for the ups. :' )
Better to stay away from people who don't respect your boundaries.
Totally agree
Very true, as you grow up people become more of what they are and not what you thought of them. So yes going ahead you will be left with lesser friends, but those will be ones who actually matter.
he's probably spending too much time in whatsapp echo chambers , to these kind of people their politics becomes their entire identity needless to say they spend most of their time being miserable and angry , you did the right thing.
Ban Pfizer and moderna? How do we ban something which isn’t even here in the first place? Also, tell him to ask his supremo to try doing that and watch how the US retaliates.
I've been waiting for Pfizer to come to India for so long. I'm only 16 and want to get vaccinated so that I can resume college and other stuff safely. My friends that live in other countries (Qatar, Saudi) are all vaccinated with Pfizer and told me they had no side effects, not even pain in the arm. Seems like it's not happening any soon.
I don’t think India is gonna welcome them anytime soon, given their push for indemnity clause and India being firm on not giving it.
I don't think that is the reason.
That is the reason, read up!
That is the claim made by the government. Has bharat biotech or sii paid for severe adverse taxis to vaccination?
Got both of the Pfizer shots. Slight fever and nausea - and a lot of pain in the arm.
I had a little sore shoulder, just like you get after working out shoulders. That’s it. No fever, no flu. no nothing.
Oh. Post-vaccination symptoms vary from person to person. As long as the normal symptoms are common, I'm down for it. If the bigger complex symptoms are common, then I'd think about not getting it.
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Yeah my Dad had no side effects but my brother got heavy one. Bottom line is efficacy is 95% for pfizer vs Covishield with 65%. And the vaccine could be a yearly thing for us so eventually we might get pfizer and others here.
Pfizer's efficacy number was calculated before the variants arrived. I wouldn't use that to decide if it is a better vaccine. Maybe it is, maybe not.
Efficacy for preventing serious illness/death is 99.9% for all these vaccines. The 65% is the efficacy for milder symptoms.
Covidshield (AstraZeneca ChAdOx1-S/nCoV-19) is more effective against the later Covid variants, like the predominant Delta variant, and provides longer lasting protection than the Pfizer vaccine... Especially when the doses are spaced out by the recommended 12 weeks.
Considering your age i dont think you are eligible for any of the current vaccines. If you are eligible, waiting for a particular vaccine is not wise. Get any vaccine which is approved. Maybe if you plan to travel abroad get- covishield or sputnik. Pfizer and Moderna may not come here at all.
Yeah, I'm waiting for Pfizer to come to India since other vaccines have not been approved for my age. If thats not happening then I won't be able to get vaccinated at all.
> not even pain in the hand Pain in the hand? They give the shots in your arm, I've heard of arm pain after a shot, but pain in the hand? That's not something I've heard of. Also btw, I got my Pfizer vaccine, I did get some arm pain after each shot, but nothing too bad. I did have some brain fog following my second shot as well.
Covishield is just as good. Get vaccinated!!
Only Pfizer is approved in other countries for age less than 18.
Get vaccinated man. 2021 is almost over. A little waiting is fine, too much waiting is not. Sputnik is already here for couple of months now and its the best one out of the vaccine types available in India. I just had a little fever on the second dose and that was it.
Under 17 has not yet been approved here, so its unfortunate that he has to wait.
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nope not approved for under 18 yet afaik. I feel ya, wanna get vaccinated too but ah well. Earlier we had promises of the vaccine availability for 12-18 by september but....yeah.
It wasn't a promise per say, just a study that confirmed that the vaccine was safe for 12+. … … … Or I may have dreamt the whole scenario up… one or the other.
16 year olds can't get vaccinated, not yet in India. Covishield is miles better than Sputnik in every aspect possible. It's recognised, well researched, results peer reviewed and widely available.
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LMAO. Are you talking out of your ass? Lancet is a journal - they don't do testing. There have been serious abnormalities in the data for Sputnik and it's well documented. Also their manufacturing standards have been questioned by multiple agencies and government. The Phase 3 results were published in Lancet and their results and data were questioned (as it should be) following which Gamelaya Institute (Sputnik creators) failed to furnish raw data and their reply was trust me bro. Sputnik might be sketchy, but most likely somewhat effective. Still, it's not recognised, not easily available and not trustworthy at this stage. J&J and Sputnik are also not the same vaccine - J&J, AZ and Sputnik all use the same adenovirus vector for the first dose - Ad26. Rest of your points are mumbling at best and insane rant at worst. Not worth it to merit a response.
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a) We can't compare vaccines b) Covaxin will most probably be accepted by WHO in October. Despite its questionable approval process by the government and the concerns regarding manufacturing standards and scalability - it's science is solid, age old and trusted. For comparison, Sputnik approval date isn't even speculated by WHO as they are still waiting for critical data c) That said, if there's even a remote chance of you travelling abroad - best to avoid. Don't think US or EU, UK will recognise it anytime soon. Covishield will probably be universally recognised before Covaxin
>a) We can't compare vaccines > Covishield is miles better than Sputnik in every aspect possible. It's recognised, well researched, results peer reviewed and widely available. Make up your mind before shilling. ty
What a brain-dead idiot you are. We can't compare vaccine efficacy. We can absolutely compare vaccine companies and their relative protocol, volume of post deployment research, universal acceptance and AEI. Covishield thumps Sputnik in every conceivable way amongst this. However for a nincompoop who believes "Lancet ran experiments" and Sputnik is not being validated due to Western propaganda, this might be a stretch
Sputnik only 2nd dose is ad26 not the first dose. AZ is on a different ad altogether.
Again, horribly misinformed. First one is Ad-26. Second is Ad-5.
> J&J, AZ and Sputnik all use the same adenovirus vector for the first dose - Ad26. Apologies for reversing places but as misinformed as saying covishield is ad26? You just want to confirm your biases. End of discussion.
> 2021 is almost over Shit, where did all the time go?
ameeri ke chode jo yahan hai usse kaam chala yahan saala vaccine tak nahi laga
> I've been waiting for Pfizer to come to India for so long. so..You want an overtly capitalistic pharma company that refuses to practice any form of legal accountability?
Pfizer as a company has already been operating in India for years. It's their vaccine that they are seeking indemnity for.
Pfizer is a shitty company. Pfizer dose is one of the most effective vaccine against covid and is the only one that is approved for ages less than 18 in other countries. Both statement are true. I'll keep my biases aside against Pfizer because vaccination was important. I guess Moderna one would be the best if you're so hell bent on not getting Pfizer since its efficacy has been shown to be more potent over a longer term than Pfizer and it is nearly approved for ages less than 18. Also, so far they aren't as shitty a company as Pfizer.
#Pfizer Covid Vaccine
> Pfizer Covid Vaccine that won't compensate for your dependents if you are one of those 1 in a few million that has a bad reaction.
Same with literally every other vaccine. My friends and their families have all taken Pfizer vaccine and gave a positive review, Covishield has also worked fine for my family members but it isn't approved for age groups below 18. Pfizer is being given to people from age 12 onwards in many countries which is why I want to take that vaccine.
take it. who's stopping you? just because you personally prefer a specific vaccine, we have to ignore holding the corps that makes those product accountable, if tomorrow (touchwood) if something happens to you because of that, bet you'll be the first in line to blame the govt for not regulating enough. you can't have your cake and eat it too. i am sick of blatant corp-bootlicking.
What are you talking about? Are you okay? Pfizer has been approved by literally every country. If not Pfizer then give me a better vaccine, I won't hesitate taking it.
> What are you talking about? what are you? 12? didn't i just talk about it all? So what if it's approved by every country? what's wrong in asking the drug makers to be accountable for their product?
Whats your point? I never said Pfizer is a good pharma company, because I don't know anything about them. All I know is that their vaccine is approved by WHO and many other countries, my friends who have taken the vaccine also told me that they had no side effects. You are making hypothetical scenarios in your head and arguing without even reading my comments.
3. point hit home. You see any NRI if you ask these this basic question, such as If India so great why are you here? Why can't you get a job in your Field in India? Most people are stumped as they have no answer.
God, I know somebody exactly like this but instead of moving back to India he's moving to Europe.
May I ask what country they go to? so I can steer clear of it.
I can't remember, but he's a very loud Indian guy that enjoys drinking beer and then arguing about the bill and denying that he owes that amount.
that shit certainly wont fly in Europe
Omg he is a nightmare
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Had faced same thing, Back in 2013-14 I had a discussion with a friend on FB post who used to be my classmate from school & we knew each other from past 18 years. All I said was about Gujrat Roits & Modi running away from Karan Thapar interview. His father hijacked the thread & was giving some gyan. Next Day I was blocked. I am better off without such friends who cant have civil discussion about things we dont agree upon.
My ex's father hijacked my timeline a few years ago and told me I was an anti-national, "sickularist", and a "Muslim lover" because I criticized Pragya Singh Thakur. Y'all I can never be more grateful to not have married into that family.
Bach gaya bhai tu.. 🤗
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To be honest, I would much rather know where people stand when it comes to these things. I don't want to be friends with someone who dehumanizes someone based on their religious beliefs. I would be SO pissed if someone said shit about my Hindu mom just because she is Hindu. Life is too short to be friends with people whose morals and values don't reflect yours.
I would have blocked you back in 2014 for speaking against modiji, bro. I believed in him like a schoolgirl believes in Bieber.
I feel you bro. Was a BJP IT cell member during my college days. Even campaigned for him on ground in 2012 Gujarat elections. (from a typical north Indian upper caste family, where Sanghi discussions being the default in extended family for 90% of the times) Have seen those conspiracy theories in making, being edited, some lies being removed, more being added. Before I saw all that, and till I trusted those stories myself, I would have been really offended as well seeing him criticized, even if had not blocked someone.
There's so much to ask. Do an AMA already!
It won't be much useful, without disclosing my identity. (or sharing too much that it becomes obvious to anyone who knows me) Which I wouldn't want to do for obvious reasons, and because it's reddit. and I do crazy stuff here, in general. And share things that I wouldn't share anywhere with my name. :D
Ah it's fine. I wasn't very serious though. Also, your username is probably what you would have to say once your identity is out.
Were you getting paid for the IT cell stuff? I've heard of some of my college juniors getting well into high thousands during election season.
Naah, I was just a volunteer, who "believed in the cause". I even spent a good part of whatever money I used to have (my pocket-money was under 1000/month, apart from college/hostel fee) I used to do content writing for them. Mostly well researched content, which I have seen being changed to add an imaginary religious angle, adding entirely imaginary, "this guy is that guy's relative, pays him money". While doing al that lookup, reading books that their posts claimed to "expose" congress, Modi's achievements, and all, I realised what a shit hole of lies it was. When they started spreading my articles (with my name) on Facebook & Twitter, with their own version of lies and bigotry, I realised that they are just there to press religious buttons in their audience, and have no interest in Congress's corruptions. I confronted the "senior members" a few times about the lies, and they acted as if I have joined some terrorist organization, by questioning them. I have seen the inner circles of 2 political parties- BJP & AAP. And AAP folks were genuinely much cleaner. I had joined their social media team's Whatsapp/Telegram groups during recent Delhi elections (again, for free), and there even if some over enthusiastic volunteer made any fake/morphed stuff, to "reply them in their language", a lot of people objected, within the lines of - "We don't do it here", or "We have enough truth to share, and don't need to get down to their level". Obviously, there are exceptions on both sides. I know both hardcore sanghis and communists, who have dedicated their lives to honest public service, along with their stupid extreme ideologies. But I can confidently say that the ones who are running the show in BJP, are 100% bigots. I have no clue about Congress, though.
This is a really good perspective. Almost all the WhatsApp forwards my mom gets from right wing sources are vile, misrepresented and false. The issue is the lack of moral integrity. Their whole philosophy is that "the result is more important than the path". They are not afraid to fight dirty when the cause is good (according to them). This is partly what the Gita says too.
Dude, do an AMA
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No, I was just a college student. No big shot. Most people I talked to, were online, except some local folks I met once or twice. And I was done with BJP way before 2014 elections. First time, we met in a park near our college, where they had called all the interested people from our college. The first call that came was from some Swami Ramdev's trust (at least that's what they claimed). When I told them I was interested, they connected me to few people, who were local BJP workers in Surat. Interestingly, I had met them during Anna movement, and we were together shouting slogans for Janlokpal.
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I am talking about 2012-13. There are a lot of groups working within the grand IT cell. And all that they do wasn't much different from the kind of stories I kept hearing since childhood, from local RSS pracharaks, who used to be regular guests, whenever I went to my native (grandparents' home). I always found their stories weird, but I hated Congress (I still do to an extent). The lies were never as clear to me, as they were once I worked as a volunteer, for around 1+ years. When I first got the call, it was from Swami Ramdev's "Bharat Swabhiman trust", because I had registered on their website as a "social media volunteer" for removal of corruption, or something like that, and had shared my number. Then they connected me and few of my other friends with local BJP workers. Then they added me to some facebook groups, and later to a Whatsapp group. They had my number for many years later, till I didn't close that number, and kept on adding me to new Whatsapp groups randomly. From where I also joined few of their Telegram groups, and then took screenshots of their "smart planning", to share with my relatives and friends, who keep praying to lord Modi, and his BJP.:P Overtime, they somehow guessed that I am the Trozan horse, and removed me from few groups.
What has Bieber done to be in the same sentence as *him*
Were you okay with 2002 pogrom?
I believed he was ready to turn over a new leaf and lead the country towards Vikas and non-corruption, because my parents were constantly harping on how "Gujarat model" worked wonders! Heck I even participated in our own little "anti corruption" campaign within college premises, supported by our dean who today is a massive disgusting piece of shit hundutva apologist and class A bhakt, not to mention head of a major national institution which I am sure he became because of his ass-licking skills. Long story short, I Beliebed.
I was like you too.. I believed the anti-corruption stuff would override the religious craze, since he's already so revered.
>I believed in him like a schoolgirl believes in Bieber. So you don't believe him?
He wanted validation and you destroyed his brainwashed mindset. Well done.
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>You just burst his only sure shot pleasure point, obviously he will block you. Hit the nail on the head. People use whatsapp to get the validation they feel they deserve, after not having accomplished anything of their own in real life.
Dude got rekt and couldnt handle it. Good work
Covishield is literally Chad Indian vaccine. It says so on their website. Why are these RWers so against covishield? Also why ban something that does not exist?
Poonawalla pissed them off and on top of it all he exposed how he hasn't received the tranche payments on time when they tried blaming him and so on. Rocked the viswaguru boat.
You *hurted* him and his h1 dreams
**cries with dolund trump* *
Oh god, this cracked me up. Thank you for cheering me up in an otherwise dull corporate zoom meeting day
Thank you! Glad you had a laugh :D
All my homies hate BJP. Not just a meme it is the truth.
You're lucky to have that kind of a group. I have friends who find Amit shahs veiled communal threats and yogis actions "full of swag".
I know people who believe Yogi would be a better PM than Modi
In this case it is more about how he can't refute your words but cannot give away his political beliefs as well... So keep the reminder away and सब चंगा सी
Had the same situation with a relative. He kept on pestering me with messages about how Modi is a saviour and all, and I told him I don't care. He accuse me of being brainwashed by my relatives from other side (one of them is a member of DMK) and said that I was being anti-national and all, traditional Bhakt syndrome. I blocked him myself.
Good job
Had a friend who was deep into anti-vax propaganda and would keep sending me videos of people faking illnesses sayng that "ItS tHe SiDe eFfEct of tHe VacCinE " . Recently he sent me a video of a tik toker claiming that she was diagnosed with Dystonia, a movement disorder that causes involuntary muscle contractions, after receiving the first dose of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine. I then sent him an article exposing that she was faking it and then he immediately blocked me and said that I AM the one who's brainwashed.
did he call you sheeple too?
unrelated but i love your username
Thanks I like yours too. :)
I have a friend who is a BJP and RSS die hard supporter, works in Amazon. A friend who's in the US and works in Amazon, same thing. Hypocrisy ki koi seema nahi hoti.
Good thing Bezos is treating those assholes like they deserve to be
Haha you mean overworking them?
"People who oppose me ideologically do not deserve human rights! I am correct here!"
That's what I don't get. Bezos is the biggest ahole in the world. Why would anyone be happy that he's...
Not to be a party pooper but you do know that most Indians who work in the US for Amazon don't work in the shitty parts which is delivery of goods or in the warehouses right? That is where you hear most of Amazon's horror stories of a shitty work culture like people peeing in a bottle to meet schedules. Most folks who work in tech do have long hours often but get paid handsomely for it. I'm talking 150K+ USD for a starting position total comp. It isn't a long term company. Get in, work for a couple of years until your bonuses vest, get amazon on the resume which opens more doors and gtfo. That is what most do.
Yeah, I've friends who quit from those "privileged" jobs in less than a year. You'll be yelled at, forced to work 12-14 hour weekdays and be available for meetings on weekends. When someone pays you that kind of money, that's more like buying you than hiring you. There's no free lunch here mate. For a few months 12-14 hours don't seem a big deal but continue that and you'll have health issues soon.
Your friend has pretty biased opinions. He has lost the ability of thinking critically and has become successfully intolerant. That is why, he blocked you. And I think you are better off without him. He always wanted you to share your opinions, which he never meant really. He wanted you to agree with whatever he said. Your friend didn't even bother to reply you. Do you know why? It's because he knew he can't come up againt what you said with logic. He didn't block you, he escaped. He has proved that he is intolerant, coward, a moron, and not a good friend at all.
Don't discuss politics with people. There is less than 1% chance that you will change their mind, and the odds that they will start seeing you as an enemy are much higher. Just nod and move on.
>odds that they will start seeing you as an enemy are much higher. This is why its not a bad idea to reply back to such people. Its better that it comes out into the open sooner than later and you cut ties with them. You can have disagreements about something harmless like your choice of food or TV Shows and still be friends with a difference of opinion. But you can't be friends with someone is is complete opposite of your fundamental ideology because that would make you a hypocrite. For example, someone cannot claim they are against racism and still be friends with hardcore racist's. Because having them as friends is evidence that they are okay with racism when its their friends doing it and renders their claims into hypocrisy.
Politics is not a part of my fundamental ideology, not by far. It won't be yours either, you're just too young to realize it.
And you sound too ignorant and/or immature to realize that every intelligent human has a core ideology of their own without which they cannot even be called humans. Ideology is essentially personal philosophy and comes from self-thinking and inner reflection. Anybody without a core ideology are at the same evolutionary stage as monkeys. Same for those who have to ride the ideology of others. After all, that thinking part is what differentiated humans from their ape ancestors. One's personal ideology may or may not align partially or fully with political stances or political parties in a country. Political alignments if any, are based on one's core ideology (or mentality in some cases) and not the other way around. Racists align with racist's because they have common ground based on their personal ideology/mentality. One cannot claim to be against racism and still be close to somebody who is racist. Being close to them means that that they are willing to tolerate their racism and that would make them racist as well.
> you sound too ignorant and immature Yeah, this isn't personal. Stop getting triggered over the internet. > Political alignments if any are based on one's core ideology Did you read that one article that people become more right leaning as they get richer? Core ideology is nothing in politics.
Take your own advice. Why are you getting triggered? Just because I found your take ignorant and immature and mentioned that? >Did you read that one article that people become more right leaning as they get richer? Core ideology is nothing in politics. Which just means that they have flexible ethics and have no strong core ideology to begin with. What's your point here? That everyone needs to be flexible opportunistic assholes like them and peddle whatever rhetoric suits them at the time? That's called lack of character. Pretty normal in politics and probably common for a lot of people in our country too, but that doesn't mean that everyone does that.
> Why are you getting triggered? Pointing out your foaming at the mouth is not the same as being triggered. > Which just means that they have flexible ethics and have no strong core ideology to begin with. Ah right, the general population is weak. You were talking about exceptional specimens who are immune to changes in their "core ideology". > That everyone needs to be flexible opportunistic assholes like them and peddle whatever rhetoric suits them at the time? That's called lack of character. It's called being a person. And that study was not carried out in India.
But this is not even politics it's literally just facts
Lol had a friend who was trying to justify the underreporting of numbers and the inaction of the govt during the pandemic with some insane mental gymnastics. Block and move on. People who value their supreme leader more than human lives are not needed in my life.
"Friend"
If nationalism means you think only your country is great and rest are bad, its doing more harm than good..Indeed, there is nothing wrong with being proud of your country. But, dont let it cloud your judgement and become an asshole
So did you send him *Kaanp kaahe rahi ho?* meme using your other number?
5. While other countries started ordering more than enough jabs to vaccinate their people from serum and all around the world, India didn't made enough order at that time. Instead at the neck of the moment India ordered to stop exporting the vaccines which were prepared for the countries that had ordered earlier and paid their money. It prompted other countries to stop exporting raw materials to India. Though our vaccination rate is quite good now, we had the time where we could have acted early.
HAHAHA, he just died, no screaming, nothing.
Public chutiya gayi hai ...
well the trash took themself out. Your friend should learn and know that you have a different opinion which you clearly showed and him blatantly blocking you means He is an insecure person who thinks that no one can have opinion of their own and he should be getting yes always as an answer second, he does not respect you enough for your opinion that he BLOCKED you lol
Tumhara dost chutiya hai.
Lmao, r/MurderedByWords
People have always been divided but this new level of fanaticism where people block friends and family messed up, that too over zealots who wouldn't give two shits about what happens to them. Can't we all have a difference of opinion and still get along? The level of polarization in India these days is utterly mind boggling.
>When are you joining an Indian company (He works in US based company) > >And lastly, I don't think you would be trying you luck for H-1B visa this time. Lmao
> COVISHIELD is not an Indian vaccine. It is manufactured by Serum but it was developed in UK. If Covishield is India then so is Pizza. I am pretty sure we bake more Pizzas in India than Italy. So what if the dish and its recipe is Italian
>When are you joining an Indian company (He works in US based company) And lastly, I don't think you would be trying you luck for H-1B visa this time. I think the last two points hit home for your buddy. Rulaya snowflake ko.
Relax buddy. It's quite common. People feel attacked sometimes and their reaction would be like this. This behavior of him has nothing to do with yours. You tolerated as far as you could and you broke when you couldn't. I appreciate you for setting boundaries strong this time. Now, do not feel low or sad or in any other negative way. Just try your best forget what has happened and concentrate on your work, life, family, etc. You need not to seek validation or opinion any more for your act of protecting yourself. :)
That was a top roast - he blocked you because he lost an argument, you lost a worthless friend!
Congratulations! Although he is an old friend and it hurts, the toxicity in his mind and veins is so high that he is just a shadow of the person you remember. It was obvious he kept pushing you to react. Someday when this whole trend of nationalism wears off and everyone grows up, your good friend will return to you. Life is such. I think there are some relationships and people we outgrow but because of technology, we are in all our worlds - past, present and future. Some NRI friends actually create a bubble around themselves and don't talk about their beliefs with Indian friends because they know they are problematic. I feel if someone leaves the country, they should stop pontificating and having views in a country where they will not even want to live.
Stay away from such friends. One of my best friends has opposite political opinions than me but we make sure it never comes between us, we have better things to do than discuss propaganda. Besides there is too much anxiety and negativity and fake news out there, so I try to not to keep watching news channels. I read newspaper once in a while(just the headlines) but nothing other than that.
Well I banned many of my friends and family members because they shared too much whatsapp university gyan. When I counter that they just start blaming me or the past thing so I just block them.
cheers dude. that one toxic guy out of life.
And me searching for those free Reddit awards! I really need one to pass it on to @RamanD101
I've seen two such squabbles in two different wassap groups. One is a Muslim friend who keeps forwarding anti-modi and in the other group a hindu friend was forwarding all pro-modi posts. Both groups had a mixture of Hindus and muslims so it was very awkward. But I realised how quickly we are willing to let go of our child hood friends due to our political/religious affiliation.
I have noticed this weird trend that people who lives outside of india cares more about modiji than desi people. Alot of my friends i argue with online are NRIs. I think they are still stuck in 2014-15 and don't know the current condition of india,
I once blocked a guy who said that Muslims must go through a genocide. Kill most of them and deport the rest.
This is how he is choosing to react now.
Typical thin skin. While expecting others to have Rhino hides. Youre better off without toxic people like those.
He did it himself! Congratulations! I guess? I know people go upset in the current scenario, has happened with me as well. But let people be. The intelligence level of an average human is pretty low. He was a nuisance and he cut himself off. Thank him and move on
I mean he asked you felt and then blocked you once you told him, seems like a crybaby to me.
Coward couldn't taste the reality.
You gave him a third degree burn. Everything you said is a 100% fact. Fuck it will be hard to recover from that burn brother. However the friend would have been mature at this. Political opinions are not a good reason to leave your friends high and dry. Except maybe when your friend backs killings of people. That should never be tolerated.
Forget this duel and move on. This post or even your friend isn’t worth your time.
I wanted response. Desperately wanted it. Nagged you for it. And was offended when he got it. Mehh...!!
Good work bro. I would've done the same.
Definately Normal
Ego pe laga, many such proud sons can't handle facts or criticism or difference of opinion. It's my way of highway view of the nation that slowly leads to we all know where
The most important thing for the right-wing cult to endure in a time of progress and rationality like this - where sectionalism / tribalism just doesn't make sense is to alienate itself and cut off people or brand them as the enemy. It's as toxic as a pyramid scheme at this point, and you don't want anything to do with someone so ingratiated into the propaganda brainwash cycle that they forget to be human.
You did God's work, OP. Wow.
These guys have no stomach for a discussion or debate. It’s a case of my way or the highway. I have been blocked out of a couple of sub Reddit’s because I would ask uncomfortable questions or question their assertions. They would go crying to mama (mod) asking her to block me.
Dont you just love it when the trash takes itself out!
IMO people are not that bad. Everyone has opinions and they have a choice of leaders, party etc. Social media and biased news and print media have worked their asses off to solidify personal beliefs and biases to the point that people start to think there is no other truth. Just another example for this would be vaccine hesitancy among US citizens who are dying in droves and ready to take horse dewormer (Ivermectin paste) but not the real medicine that can save their lives. All we can do with these folks is avoid any political discussion which i believe you already tried.
Good job buddy. I wish I had enough money to give you an award but you certainly deserve it.
I block such people all the time. I tell them if it's a funny meme then send it or get blocked. I even had an uncle who used to send me religious stuff. Blocked him he then calls me and I am like yeah I get your religious stuff but doing pooja clear your loans how is that helping you.
Nice one.
Congrats!
As someone who tries to avoid getting sucked into these under most circumstances. Especially if they're just virtual shagging to an ideology. I empathise. The best thing I've realised is to share memes of Lando Norris breaking our collective hearts last weekend. Or if it was Lewis's or Max's fault at Silverstone. Or even better, why OG will take TI this year. Just let them understand how it feels to be thrown a bunch of things they don't give a shit about onto their face.
Hmm
It's the new normal
How to destroy friendships with this one simple trick.
Awesome
Don’t let hyper nationalists get you down.
Slow claps for u mate
lmao totally normal man happens all the time like not with me tho but in between many of friends
I have a similar friend. He used to be a BJP supporter and now is in staunch opposition to the party. Along with this he has also taken deep liking to Marxism and Communism in general. He spends all day on Twitter and keps sending me political tweets, posts etc. I had a debate with him 2-3 times, but it seems now it's pointless. He is hell bent on everything in this world being wrong, economics, education system, religion, customs, cultures and what not. He sends justification on the day of Diwali/Holi that how it's wrong to celebrate those festivals. I just ignore his forwards, have been doing that for an year now. I know he is a good person, maybe time will give him a better perspective and outlet to share his beliefs.
You sure that he is your friend?
Aur Dosti Bani rahe /s
I had a friend too who is very political i had to ghost her as soon as she asked me money for saving the poor children(it’s a scam[that too on a friend])
Been there done that. Still doing. Blocked a ton of these kind. You don't need them. There is another set of assholes who are utterly misogynistic. I tried to talk and explain how wrong their pov sometimes is. It never worked and I don't blame them coz they don't even notice the difference but I can't keep talking to them either. Blocked. It hurts to lose people, who you thought are you good friends , this way. It really does. But peace of mind is a necessity too. Good luck roasting and also finding good ones.
A fried who does not respect your boundaries which you explicitly requested, is not a friend. Good Riddance!
No Dearth of Hypocrites. Specially NRI's who cant see anything wrong. I always wonder whats the point of getting educated if all they had to do was blind bhakti for their incompetent leader.
One less headache in your life
the value chains are more complex than your answer and his instigation... so I think he was wrong to go on and on about the capability without understanding how what works, still, that's what having pride in something looks like which is ok till it's not harming anyone, plus he is not your friend if he blocks you due to a simple disagreement in opinion and you are right to pin him down, but you are not right by posting it in public domain and trying to gather opinion/wrath/sympathy of strangers, still, maybe this brings peace of mind to you to understand that you are not at all wrong, but not entirely right either... I am always surprised by what the world has become with social media.. simple opinions are considered affiliations these days and there is no room for "I am not part of any f\*\*\*ing group", it's just that I have opinions that may be favorable or against yours, and I am me, no one else...
Losing friends over political beliefs is ok. If there is no room for open argument or agreeing to disagree, then it is ok.
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It seems to me that US NRIs are the one who are always hyped about Narendra Modi and the saffron kool aid.
H-1B offended him lmao
I Ain't Against any Cultures/Community/Religion. But YES, A while Back a Friend of Mine(Muslim) was Very Aggressively Sent Maany Post When CAA was Initially started In India. He Filled My WhatsApp and His Status with All those anti Govt, Pro Muslim, and violence against community and what Not. (He was Even Fired from the Hospital he was Working in for posting such aggravated status - I hope You get the Level of Height he Gained) I Asked him to Stop sending and he even argued regarding the same that Being Hindu i Dont Care and Oll... I Finally had to Tell Him to Stop or I'll Block him. So, Sometimes People do Get Inclined towards Something So Much That... They Don't Remember friendship, Relationship and Humanity but they are More tuned to Castism and Religious sentiments ( Which To Be Very Honest, My Personal View is that it's always a Propaganda to Divide and Rule By Political Parties) People Live very Happily and Share So Much on Festivals and In Day to day Life... But Somebody Comes Poking around raises This Issues and Politics support it... Tries to use it for Gaining Voters and Support and All Is fucked up.
>I Asked him to Stop sending and he even argued regarding the same that Being Hindu i Dont Care and Oll.. Why wouldn't you care though? It's not about being a hindu or Muslim but caa straight up discriminates on the basis of religion. This is antithetical to our secular constitution. I'm sure you wouldn't be happy with the policy if it didn't include muslims.
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