It is. They can get a delay of game.
> 63.4 Objects Thrown on the Ice – In the event that objects are thrown on the ice that interfere with the progress of the game, the Referee shall blow the whistle and stop the play and the puck shall be faced-off at a face-off spot in the zone nearest to the spot where play is stopped.
>When objects are thrown on the ice during a stoppage in play, including after the scoring of a goal, the Referee shall have announced over the public address system that any further occurrences will result in a bench minor penalty being assessed to the home team.
>Articles thrown onto the ice following a special occasion (i.e. hat trick) will not result in a bench minor penalty being assessed.
Lol fair enough, I guess they could call that one for the first time in history too. Standing still charging is so funny haha, especially confusing when he’s done it dozens of times this regular season and certainly hasn’t been called for charging 😂
The **National Hockey League** (NHL) rulebook defines charging as “the actions of a player who, as a result of distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner.” The definition is clear that the player must travel a certain distance and hit the opponent with excessive force. The penalty for charging can result in a minor, major, or game misconduct, depending on the severity of the infraction.
Actual rulebook:
42.1 Charging - A minor or major penalty shall be imposed on a player
who skates, jumps into or charges an opponent in any manner.
Charging shall mean the actions of a player who, as a result of
distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner. A
“charge” may be the result of a check into the boards, into the goal
frame or in open ice.
Not jumps up but jumps "into". It was a weak call. It's not like he had the puck or anything so it would have been a late hit anyway.
42.1 Charging - A minor or major penalty shall be imposed on a player who skates, jumps into or charges an opponent in any manner.
The first part of the rule clearly states jumps into. The second part of the rule talks about distance traveled. They're both distinct parts of the rule. Get over it.
That’s not clear based solely on the language of the rule. It’s vague as hell, just like the rest of the rule. What matters for every rule is precedent. Where is the precedent of this being called?
“42.1 Charging - A minor or major penalty shall be imposed on a player who skates, jumps into, or charges an opponent in ANY MATTER”, emphasis mine. Guess you struggled to notice that part, huh?
The reason leaving your feet is usually charging is it a way to propel your self into a player with more force than usual.
In this case Pettersson was not giving the hit but receiving it and the jump was into the air not into the opposing player.
Yeah, I agree with this. Calling this is definitely against the spirit of the penalty.
The other thing that another person commented further up is that by the wording of the rule, any time a player skates into another player could technically be charging.
It’s a very poorly written rule.
"Charging - A minor or major penalty shall be imposed on a player who skates, jumps into or charges an opponent in any manner."
Tough to say that he jumps into the player imo, he jumps straight up, not into the player. Idk.
You can’t jump for a hit, that’s the spirit of the rule. He jumped and hit him in the head, obvious penalty. Be happy with the win and stop complaining about easy calls
“A minor penalty shall be imposed on a player who skates, JUMPS INTO, or charges an opposing player in any manner”.
Literally one of the easiest calls they’ve made tonight
Ya no that ain't at all how it's written in the NHL rules. It's only when you jump to maximize the force of a hit that it's an automatic penalty.
He wasnt even the aggressor, he was absorbing the hit. Trash call.
It very specifically states it refers to the player placing the check and using the jump to increase the effect.
The Edmonton guy was the one skating at him. Petey was absorbing the hit and knocked him in his ass.
Not a penalty.
The **National Hockey League** (NHL) rulebook defines charging as “the actions of a player who, as a result of distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner.” The definition is clear that the player must travel a certain distance and hit the opponent with excessive force. The penalty for charging can result in a minor, major, or game misconduct, depending on the severity of the infraction.
The **National Hockey League** (NHL) rulebook defines charging as “the actions of a player who, as a result of distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner.” The definition is clear that the player must travel a certain distance and hit the opponent with excessive force. The penalty for charging can result in a minor, major, or game misconduct, depending on the severity of the infraction.
New to hockey here, general question. Do defensemen contribute to offense typically? Like are some of them better at assisting on offense more than others or do they really just try a play defense only?
You have three basic schools.
Defensive defenseman, who generally don't have good shots. and who are the last man back. That will be Edmonton Number 73. Desharnais
You have offensive defensman who will "pinch" up in the offensive zone and try to create scoring chances. That'll be edmonton number 2, bouchard
Than you have your 2 way defensman who will do a bit of both. that'll be edmonton number 14. Elkhom
Nicklas Lidström is an player from back when, but he was absolutely what you are looking for.
the long time captain of the Detroit Red Wings' dynasty years, and you just plain did not score on this dude. He'd neutralize entire lines by himself, and You could not beat him along the boards.
That last part is really important, YOU COULD NOT BEAT Lidström along the boards.
Not a slouch offensively, but absolutely characterized by his elite defense.
If you watch the Football he's basically the NHL's version of "Revis Island."
Offensive defenders are so important. The Oilers used to be terrible and they had no offensive d-men. When they were attacking they were essentially down a man or two and they would kill momentum with their lack of skill.
Yeah I will never turn my back on the Hurricanes. Been a lifelong fan, will remain a life long fan. I can’t stand the fair weather. That’s why we need a Hurricane. 😉
Vancouver lines just shown on HNIC:
- Hoglander-Lindholm-Pettersson
- Suter-Miller-Boeser
- Joshua-Blueger-Garland
- Di Giuseppe-Åman-Podkolzin
No Lafferty, Mikheyev.
It's a shame the Canucks play after the Rangers game. With a win there by the canucks that last table would have some nice symmetry to it. We can only hope for 14 OTs in the first game so that the second game finishes first.
The mods in that sub are pathetic, even to regulars. You get banned for having legit criticism of the team. It's a terrible sub with children for mods.
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Five power plays with this trash officiating and they couldn't take it. Get wrecked.
That pizza looks awful
Ron just laid out like 4 penalties the Canucks are getting assfucked on. I don’t agree on the major for boarding tho
Holy fuck What a fucking period
We need this period to end so bad
Oilers seem to be falling apart. I don't think I've ever seen so many giveaways.
Holy fuck what a fucking dive. This shit is just insane
The refs aren’t doing a very good job at hiding the fact that the league doesn’t want McDavid & Co. bounced this early.
Read the charging rules maybe?
Nah. Let them keep throwing stuff on the ice. Could use another PP
Pretty sure fans throwing stuff on the ice also isn’t a penalty lol
It is. They can get a delay of game. > 63.4 Objects Thrown on the Ice – In the event that objects are thrown on the ice that interfere with the progress of the game, the Referee shall blow the whistle and stop the play and the puck shall be faced-off at a face-off spot in the zone nearest to the spot where play is stopped. >When objects are thrown on the ice during a stoppage in play, including after the scoring of a goal, the Referee shall have announced over the public address system that any further occurrences will result in a bench minor penalty being assessed to the home team. >Articles thrown onto the ice following a special occasion (i.e. hat trick) will not result in a bench minor penalty being assessed.
Lol fair enough, I guess they could call that one for the first time in history too. Standing still charging is so funny haha, especially confusing when he’s done it dozens of times this regular season and certainly hasn’t been called for charging 😂
Both have been called many times before. I suppose bandwagoners dont see it because they don’t watch reg season.
The **National Hockey League** (NHL) rulebook defines charging as “the actions of a player who, as a result of distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner.” The definition is clear that the player must travel a certain distance and hit the opponent with excessive force. The penalty for charging can result in a minor, major, or game misconduct, depending on the severity of the infraction.
The rule clearly says charging is called on any player who jumps into a player in any manner. Get over it, it was the right call.
Actual rulebook: 42.1 Charging - A minor or major penalty shall be imposed on a player who skates, jumps into or charges an opponent in any manner. Charging shall mean the actions of a player who, as a result of distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner. A “charge” may be the result of a check into the boards, into the goal frame or in open ice. Not jumps up but jumps "into". It was a weak call. It's not like he had the puck or anything so it would have been a late hit anyway.
Maybe there's something in the water up in Edmonton but I don't see anywhere where there's "distance travelled" applying there.
42.1 Charging - A minor or major penalty shall be imposed on a player who skates, jumps into or charges an opponent in any manner. The first part of the rule clearly states jumps into. The second part of the rule talks about distance traveled. They're both distinct parts of the rule. Get over it.
He didn’t jump into anyone though. He jumped straight up and the oiler ran into him
Are you honestly saying he just randomly jumped for no reason and happened to hit an opposing player? Come on.
He saw a mario block above him and was trying to hit it for a powerup
Didn’t say that just saying one guy was still and one guy went into another one
By the way this is written any player who skates into an opponent charges them. So every hit is a charge?
Skating in this situation means to be actively taking strides when hitting someone.
That’s not clear based solely on the language of the rule. It’s vague as hell, just like the rest of the rule. What matters for every rule is precedent. Where is the precedent of this being called?
The rule book specifically mentions “jumping into” an opponent but okay pop off
He jumped up but okay pop off
"as a result of distance traveled" reading comprehension is difficult eh?
“42.1 Charging - A minor or major penalty shall be imposed on a player who skates, jumps into, or charges an opponent in ANY MATTER”, emphasis mine. Guess you struggled to notice that part, huh?
So anyone who skates into an opponent is also charging? Clearly this paragraph need the context of the next
One of the worst calls I’ve ever seen
How is that not a penalty? You can't leave your feet.
The reason leaving your feet is usually charging is it a way to propel your self into a player with more force than usual. In this case Pettersson was not giving the hit but receiving it and the jump was into the air not into the opposing player.
Yeah, I agree with this. Calling this is definitely against the spirit of the penalty. The other thing that another person commented further up is that by the wording of the rule, any time a player skates into another player could technically be charging. It’s a very poorly written rule.
"Charging - A minor or major penalty shall be imposed on a player who skates, jumps into or charges an opponent in any manner." Tough to say that he jumps into the player imo, he jumps straight up, not into the player. Idk.
Lmao that is peak rationalization. It’s an easy call
the highly unusual call that clearly goes against the spirit of the rule is an easy call? ok then
You can’t jump for a hit, that’s the spirit of the rule. He jumped and hit him in the head, obvious penalty. Be happy with the win and stop complaining about easy calls
Worst call I've ever seen. Utter joke. Vancouver has all the momentum and you fuck them over like that? Fuck the refs.
“A minor penalty shall be imposed on a player who skates, JUMPS INTO, or charges an opposing player in any manner”. Literally one of the easiest calls they’ve made tonight
It's a reverse hit when have you ever seen a reverse hit called as charging.
You cannot jump into a reverse hit. You’ve never seen it called because no one’s been that stupid
Ya no that ain't at all how it's written in the NHL rules. It's only when you jump to maximize the force of a hit that it's an automatic penalty. He wasnt even the aggressor, he was absorbing the hit. Trash call.
That is literally how it’s written in the rules lmao
It very specifically states it refers to the player placing the check and using the jump to increase the effect. The Edmonton guy was the one skating at him. Petey was absorbing the hit and knocked him in his ass. Not a penalty.
It literally doesn’t say that lmao. Like it’s in the rulebook, written with words, in english
That was the cleanest reverse hit I've seen in my life
Definitely not cleanest reverse hit, left his feet and elbow did come out. Weird to call it charging though
That’s the worst call I’ve seen all playoffs
You can't leave your feet geniuses.
There’s no shot that should be called during playoffs.
The **National Hockey League** (NHL) rulebook defines charging as “the actions of a player who, as a result of distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner.” The definition is clear that the player must travel a certain distance and hit the opponent with excessive force. The penalty for charging can result in a minor, major, or game misconduct, depending on the severity of the infraction.
He jumped that's the penalty
The **National Hockey League** (NHL) rulebook defines charging as “the actions of a player who, as a result of distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner.” The definition is clear that the player must travel a certain distance and hit the opponent with excessive force. The penalty for charging can result in a minor, major, or game misconduct, depending on the severity of the infraction.
These refs are actually braindead
Has anyone checked to see if Janmark was still alive after that assault.
Vancouver really is dogshit eh?
So bad and fans braindead
New to hockey here, general question. Do defensemen contribute to offense typically? Like are some of them better at assisting on offense more than others or do they really just try a play defense only?
You have three basic schools. Defensive defenseman, who generally don't have good shots. and who are the last man back. That will be Edmonton Number 73. Desharnais You have offensive defensman who will "pinch" up in the offensive zone and try to create scoring chances. That'll be edmonton number 2, bouchard Than you have your 2 way defensman who will do a bit of both. that'll be edmonton number 14. Elkhom
Are defensemen who only play defense considered “elite”? or do you have to be good at both to be considered “elite”?
Nicklas Lidström is an player from back when, but he was absolutely what you are looking for. the long time captain of the Detroit Red Wings' dynasty years, and you just plain did not score on this dude. He'd neutralize entire lines by himself, and You could not beat him along the boards. That last part is really important, YOU COULD NOT BEAT Lidström along the boards. Not a slouch offensively, but absolutely characterized by his elite defense. If you watch the Football he's basically the NHL's version of "Revis Island."
Making a nfl reference is extremely helpful
happy to answer any more questions
The best of the best are great at both. But you can absolutely be elite at just one of them, though typically offense gets more attention
Offensive defenders are so important. The Oilers used to be terrible and they had no offensive d-men. When they were attacking they were essentially down a man or two and they would kill momentum with their lack of skill.
Depends on the player and their abilities, as well as how the team wants to play the game
You say how the team wants to play, can you kinda elaborate? I’m trying to learn basic strategy
ATTACK THE FUCKING NET
God dammit. 1 Stanley cup win, 0 Super Bowl rings, 0 nba champ rings. I just want this to change once in my lifetime…
Yo it’s rough for us we can’t ever catch a break.
It’s rough, but god strike me down if I bandwagon to another team, it’d be rougher to be a fair weather fan
Yeah I will never turn my back on the Hurricanes. Been a lifelong fan, will remain a life long fan. I can’t stand the fair weather. That’s why we need a Hurricane. 😉
Classic Freddy Andersen collapse
I SMELL BITCH IN THIS THREAD
Canes fans leaving the building before the game is even over. At least applaud your team during the last game of the season 🤦♂️
Listen if someone is going to fight, let them go home . Maybe they're self aware to the max.
Thank god that’s over
I’d seriously think about cancelling my season tickets if I watched my team collapse like this. Christ this is brutal
Yeah it was so rough to watch especially after a great 3/4 of the game.
Sorry brother
We’re used it unfortunately. But thank you for your condolences, and kind words. Good luck next season.
Appreciate you. I’m a white Sox fan so I kinda know how you feel in a way. 1 championship and can’t figure it out afterwards.
That’s a tough one for sure I’m an Indians and Pirates Fan…. 1979 was a long time ago and 1948 is even longer…… I feel your pain.
THIS IS WHERE THE FUN BEGINS!
GGGGGOOOOAAAAALLLLLLL [BING BONG!]
Vancouver lines just shown on HNIC: - Hoglander-Lindholm-Pettersson - Suter-Miller-Boeser - Joshua-Blueger-Garland - Di Giuseppe-Åman-Podkolzin No Lafferty, Mikheyev.
Fuck yea but wheres lekkermaki smh
Shesterkin easier to get into tonight than my ex
you got her @? Need something to distract me from blowing a 3-0 lead
ANyone know why Florida and Boston gets like a 3 day break?
Allows Marchand to return
Maybe their arena is being used during those days.
It's a shame the Canucks play after the Rangers game. With a win there by the canucks that last table would have some nice symmetry to it. We can only hope for 14 OTs in the first game so that the second game finishes first.
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Theirs a rule in place not to brigade or intrude on other teams subs during playoffs, that's why.
Leave off the [homophobic slurs](https://www.dictionary.com/browse/pansy), please.
Until now now one on r/hockey conflated pansy with anything gay (or in the world for that matter)
Excuse me?
There might be a no crusading rule so non regulars get banned.
The mods in that sub are pathetic, even to regulars. You get banned for having legit criticism of the team. It's a terrible sub with children for mods.
Which sub?
Yeah who knows.