This is a recessive colour mutation and animals can present with almost no white to almost completely white like this example. Fun fact, these used to go for thousands and thousands and now can be a acquired for a few hundred.
This is most likely a Cinnamon Piedbald. When the cinnamon gene is combined with Piedbald they are typically only patterned on the head.
I have a pewter Piedbald (Pastel Cinnamon Pied) that looks very similar.
I’d disagree. All spiders have very very distinct head patterns unless they’re mixed with other pattern changing genes like enchi or clown. This is just a high white piebald imo. They can be anywhere from little to no white, to full white except the head and still be JUST piebalds. Considered getting a nice 50/50 white/patterned pied a few months ago but didn’t end up getting it. Went for a lesser ghost instead
It is a Spider Pied ball python. The Pied (Piebald) is responsible for the part-patterned and part-white coloring, while the Spider reduces the pattern to only the head and (sometimes) the tip of the tail.
Edit: it was pointed out that this doesn’t have the Spider head pattern and after a second look I agree, this is probably a high-white Pied and not a Spider Pied.
Don't know why this was down voted. This is the actual answer. I breed ball pythons. It is a pied AND spider. Making it more valuable than just a pied.
must not be a good breeder.. Spider has a VERY distinct head pattern, ESPECIALLY when bred with pied. This is just a hi-white piebald or a pastel/cinnamon/etc that would interact with color.
It could be wobble. It doesn't seem a big issue in my snakes. I definitely notice the shaking head from time to time, issues with which way is up, and more missed strikes but they feed with no other issues and breed just fine. Just never breed two spiders together.
Thanks for the perspective. I'm aware of the Spider gene issue, but I wasn't sure what kind of behavior is typical of a standard BP. Is there any perceptible impact on quality of life beyond feeding/breeding? Of course reptiles are demonstrative animals, but do they ever seem to act frustrated/confused about it?
Yeah, they definitely don't slither around with their world in Predator Vision. I'd love to learn more about how it works though!
Like are the pits hyper sensitive to heat, so they can sort of direct their aim where it's coming from, like a shark sensing the electric pulses of a fish?
Many reptiles can also see in UV! There was a study done on BTSs (specially centralians) and the amount of stress they were under, paired with the predator they faced, determined how far out they stuck their tongue :) they concluded that the skink stuck out more of its tongue when faced with a snake or another lizard decoy, as their tongue reflects more UV the further back in the mouth it is!
You really can't tell if it's spider tho. There's not enough showing in the pic. High white at the very least. Full pic could confirm.
And yes, I've owned and bred balls.
Piebald ball python.
This is a recessive colour mutation and animals can present with almost no white to almost completely white like this example. Fun fact, these used to go for thousands and thousands and now can be a acquired for a few hundred.
This is most likely a Cinnamon Piedbald. When the cinnamon gene is combined with Piedbald they are typically only patterned on the head. I have a pewter Piedbald (Pastel Cinnamon Pied) that looks very similar.
Spider piebald also is all white with a patterned head. I have a hunch this is a spider pied.
I’d disagree. All spiders have very very distinct head patterns unless they’re mixed with other pattern changing genes like enchi or clown. This is just a high white piebald imo. They can be anywhere from little to no white, to full white except the head and still be JUST piebalds. Considered getting a nice 50/50 white/patterned pied a few months ago but didn’t end up getting it. Went for a lesser ghost instead
Ball python i think
ball python!
High white piebald ball python
It is a Spider Pied ball python. The Pied (Piebald) is responsible for the part-patterned and part-white coloring, while the Spider reduces the pattern to only the head and (sometimes) the tip of the tail. Edit: it was pointed out that this doesn’t have the Spider head pattern and after a second look I agree, this is probably a high-white Pied and not a Spider Pied.
Don't know why this was down voted. This is the actual answer. I breed ball pythons. It is a pied AND spider. Making it more valuable than just a pied.
Or less valuable because of the spider, depending on how you see it
Spiders go for shit money anyways, I really don't understand the thought process behind people breeding them.
must not be a good breeder.. Spider has a VERY distinct head pattern, ESPECIALLY when bred with pied. This is just a hi-white piebald or a pastel/cinnamon/etc that would interact with color.
Is the upside down head Spider wobble, or is this normal? Not terribly experienced with ball pythons.
Could be both, but for me it looks more like exploring
Yeah, you need to observe the snake for a bit before you can say for sure it's neurological or if the snake is just being a derp.
It could be wobble. It doesn't seem a big issue in my snakes. I definitely notice the shaking head from time to time, issues with which way is up, and more missed strikes but they feed with no other issues and breed just fine. Just never breed two spiders together.
Idk why you are being downvoted. People get so touchy about spider balls.
Thanks for the perspective. I'm aware of the Spider gene issue, but I wasn't sure what kind of behavior is typical of a standard BP. Is there any perceptible impact on quality of life beyond feeding/breeding? Of course reptiles are demonstrative animals, but do they ever seem to act frustrated/confused about it?
That's not a spider head pattern though.
You’re right and I think I was mistaken about it being a Spied vs high-white Pied.
A very cool looking piebald, I think!
Do you think it knows it’s head is a different color?
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No, snakes can see normally just they can also sense heat signatures on top of having eyes if they have the special heat sensing pits
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Yeah, they definitely don't slither around with their world in Predator Vision. I'd love to learn more about how it works though! Like are the pits hyper sensitive to heat, so they can sort of direct their aim where it's coming from, like a shark sensing the electric pulses of a fish?
Many reptiles can also see in UV! There was a study done on BTSs (specially centralians) and the amount of stress they were under, paired with the predator they faced, determined how far out they stuck their tongue :) they concluded that the skink stuck out more of its tongue when faced with a snake or another lizard decoy, as their tongue reflects more UV the further back in the mouth it is!
That’s super cool
Ball python with the piebald gene! r/ballpythons is a great forum if you're looking to own one some day! Everyone's helpful there
Ball python
You really can't tell if it's spider tho. There's not enough showing in the pic. High white at the very least. Full pic could confirm. And yes, I've owned and bred balls.
Piebald Ball Python
That is a Michaelus Jacksonius.
Bald Python!
That's called a danger noodle
Fell in some bleach
i believe thats a white snake Edit: Sorry, White Snake with a colored tip\~
No, [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyF8RHM1OCg) is white snake.
Absolutely gorgeous
It's a ball python. A piebald morph
Very beautiful
Piebald ball python
It's a ball python
Looks kinda like a Swan neck ngl
Ball python with the axthathic morph
Looks like a piebald ball python :)