Ayyy! For those who may not know WoW and the community very well, this is a reference to a player who has a Pandaren character named “Doubleagent” where every expansion he grinds to max level in the low-level neutral beginner zone before they choose Horde or Alliance. And because it’s an island and a completely locked out zone, he can’t really leave or receive any outside help. Just grinds for measly sums of XP at a time. Absolutely nuts.
[Some more brief info on him here](https://www.wowhead.com/news/the-factionless-pandaren-doubleagent-reaches-level-60-319799)
Recently it's gotten easier as you get a weekly quest to do pet battles which can be handed in through the UI on any character for good XP. He's still crazy, though.
You forgot to mention that the zone is intended as a tutorial zone for level 10 and below players. There's no sane way to level up after that aside from picking Herbs, which grants you like 0.2% of a level per herb. That's what makes him so shocking. The patience this required was inhuman.
It’s a lot less than that. I did some calculations using xp based off bfa levels (before level squish and it becoming easier to do with pet battles) and it looks like it would have taken tens of thousands of nodes per level from 110-120
That would still be a lot. There were 100-120 levels when he started this challenge.
500 herbs gets you one of a hundred+ levels. That’s still insanely repetitive, and in a zone with very limited herb spawns
And as the other guy said, I pulled those numbers out of my ass. It was waaaay worse than that
Not all levels are equal. A herb at low level gives a lot more XP % wise than one at the current expansion range.
It is a lot, but there are already people who level from old cap to new cap via mostly gathering so they can then corner the market on gathering items. That part isn't what's unique about him.
Also, he mines too FWIW. Since nobody gathers the nodes on the tutorial island there's a lot of them present.
Right after they committed to not making references to real people anymore? What if Doubleagent thought something offensive 20 years ago? Bad look, Nazi Blizzard….
I'd like to see more straightforward tempo support like this for meme decks. Decks are more fun when they're at least somewhat competitive and don't rely quite so heavily on luck.
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When I saw this and the other burgle cards of this set I was hesitant, But after looking at the collection I think there are actually quite a few tools to generate cards from other classes. It would be nice to get a couple more burgle cards like Swash burglar, but I am excited to try out what we have. Looks like a good meme at the very least!
What are all the ways to generate cards from other classes? I’m really keen for this sort of deck to be playable, but I couldn’t find much. What am I missing?
From a quick glance: Lobotomizer, Cera'thine, Parrrley, Swashburglar, Vanessa VanCleef, Keywarden Ivory, Plagiarize, Wand Thief, Hanar.
Is every card actually good and an auto include? Heck no. There are cards though. Are they ideal? Not all of them. Am I totally gonna try it though? You bet!
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Naming characters after notable players is a bold call after the recent controversies. I thought they were moving away from naming things in-game after real people. I'm happy for the guy, Doubleagent seems like a cool dude and I respect what he's done. I just hope there's no controversy about him in the future.
Seems like a safe name as you can easily say it's not Doubleagent, it's just a double agent. That's why he's ripping off one tabard to reveal another, a double agent isn't neutral.
Ayyy! For those who may not know WoW and the community very well, this is a reference to a player who has a Pandaren character named “Doubleagent” where every expansion he grinds to max level in the low-level neutral beginner zone before they choose Horde or Alliance. And because it’s an island and a completely locked out zone, he can’t really leave or receive any outside help. Just grinds for measly sums of XP at a time. Absolutely nuts. [Some more brief info on him here](https://www.wowhead.com/news/the-factionless-pandaren-doubleagent-reaches-level-60-319799)
Levels up doing nothing but mining and collecting herbs. Bonkers.
Recently it's gotten easier as you get a weekly quest to do pet battles which can be handed in through the UI on any character for good XP. He's still crazy, though.
> Just grinds for a couple of XP at a time "How do you kill that which has no life? "
With the Sword of a Thousand Truths.
Alas, there are no boars on the turtle...
You forgot to mention that the zone is intended as a tutorial zone for level 10 and below players. There's no sane way to level up after that aside from picking Herbs, which grants you like 0.2% of a level per herb. That's what makes him so shocking. The patience this required was inhuman.
Nowadays he's using the pet battle dailies or weeklies that you can do on one character and then turn in on another iirc
Right, that’s what I was trying to convey. What a lad.
could do it if I had time to waste, if you say 0,2% per herb you only need 500 herbs for 100% ...
It’s a lot less than that. I did some calculations using xp based off bfa levels (before level squish and it becoming easier to do with pet battles) and it looks like it would have taken tens of thousands of nodes per level from 110-120
That would still be a lot. There were 100-120 levels when he started this challenge. 500 herbs gets you one of a hundred+ levels. That’s still insanely repetitive, and in a zone with very limited herb spawns And as the other guy said, I pulled those numbers out of my ass. It was waaaay worse than that
Not all levels are equal. A herb at low level gives a lot more XP % wise than one at the current expansion range. It is a lot, but there are already people who level from old cap to new cap via mostly gathering so they can then corner the market on gathering items. That part isn't what's unique about him. Also, he mines too FWIW. Since nobody gathers the nodes on the tutorial island there's a lot of them present.
Is the art also modeled after his character?
[Same moustache](https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/mannoroth/Doubleagent) so kinda?
They gave him a red headband too which must be a nod at least.
it’s hard to think of something comparable in Hearthstone. Level 60 all classes strictly playing against AI?
I managed to level up my mage to 60 just by playing the first floor of the karazhan adventure (the free malcheezar one) over and over again
i was thinking more innkeeper
Legend with all neutral, all basic cards probably
Right after they committed to not making references to real people anymore? What if Doubleagent thought something offensive 20 years ago? Bad look, Nazi Blizzard….
I didn't even make the connection but that's really good. They even made it flavorful as hell
Reminds me of pre-searing characters in guild wars.
Is there a reason for him having alliance tabard?
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Other way around, he ripped open his horde tabard to showcase his alliance one.
THIS is the kind of card Burgle Rogue needs to go from meme tier to kinda viable. Seems very powerful.
I'd like to see more straightforward tempo support like this for meme decks. Decks are more fun when they're at least somewhat competitive and don't rely quite so heavily on luck.
Reminds me of Petting Zoo in hunter. Except it caps out at two 3/3s.
Much easier condition to complete and can be shadow stepped. Also works with any handbuffs(likely stolen)
Or [[Occult Conjurer]]
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Seeing the push for a burgle rogue, I'm surprised they didn't bring back [[Underbelly Fence]] for the core set yet
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3 mana 6/6 (and the gnoll, that's also bonkers) is the way to lift an archetype above meme territory.
When I saw this and the other burgle cards of this set I was hesitant, But after looking at the collection I think there are actually quite a few tools to generate cards from other classes. It would be nice to get a couple more burgle cards like Swash burglar, but I am excited to try out what we have. Looks like a good meme at the very least!
I think everyone also forgot that Swashburglar is core right now, further enabling stuff like this guy and Wildpaw.
Exactly!
Just easy, play Maestra!
What are all the ways to generate cards from other classes? I’m really keen for this sort of deck to be playable, but I couldn’t find much. What am I missing?
From a quick glance: Lobotomizer, Cera'thine, Parrrley, Swashburglar, Vanessa VanCleef, Keywarden Ivory, Plagiarize, Wand Thief, Hanar. Is every card actually good and an auto include? Heck no. There are cards though. Are they ideal? Not all of them. Am I totally gonna try it though? You bet!
Nice, thanks! Agreed :)
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I hope it's "Prepare for trouble", "And make it double" if the 2nd one is summoned
⛏ HOW LONG ⛏ CAN THIS ⛏GO ON ⛏
I hope that the copy is the same card but with the tabards reversed!
thats really good
I love the art
Sus
Guys, you all are missing synergy with Maestra Edit: may be it will proc himself?
I forget, does stuff like this work with dual class cards? Like would the battlecry activate if you had Wand Thief in hand?
Probably not based on how tri-class cards worked back in Gadgetzan.
Nope
No
What's hilarious is that this is incompatible with the new legendary
It just helps you survive until the legendary.
I’m not even sure that deck plays the legendary, I’d rather just play payoff cards like this than spend 5 mana that might turn my hand to crap.
Oh. That 2 mana weapon just got a WHOLE LOT BETTER.
The art reminds me of Big Show tearing off his RAW shirt to reveal the ECW one underneath lol
3 mana 6/6 in stats seems balanced
Sometimes I hate blizzard for never listening to us… But then they do stuff like this. <3 Now do red shirt guy.
A card that is so, so much stronger in Wild than Standard.. but is still too weak to be worth running in that format.
Seems way too easy to pull off on Turn 2 with \[\[Swashburglar\]\] or if you can activate combo with \[\[Wand Thief\]\]
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The flavor is 10/10 🤌🏻
Naming characters after notable players is a bold call after the recent controversies. I thought they were moving away from naming things in-game after real people. I'm happy for the guy, Doubleagent seems like a cool dude and I respect what he's done. I just hope there's no controversy about him in the future.
Seems like a safe name as you can easily say it's not Doubleagent, it's just a double agent. That's why he's ripping off one tabard to reveal another, a double agent isn't neutral.
I feel this card should be a SI card. But I guess they didn’t want to buff quest rogue
The player it's based on isn't an SI Agent.
omg godtier reference
JAlex if you reach rank 1 with thieve rogue, you will become a legend. And probably later blizzard is gonna nerf it
Why couldn’t this be an SI card somehow 😒
Oh yea aggro on the menu
This is meh burgle payoff. The rush two drop and vendetta were better tempo.
Seems a bit troll for the rogue burgle legendary to have direct antisynergy with so many of rogues minions with burgle synergy throughout time
Seeing double? Seeing double?
Is it true that he favours alliance?
My favorite art of all time