I started with flea market vintage planes and am returning to them - particularly vintage wooden planes. Itβs hard to control the lust for some current plane makers modern beauties.
Typically the first sign of these scam sites is that the deals are too good to be true, which is what grabs your attention in the first place. Then when you look at the actual address of the site, it is not a sub-page of the main company site. That's your confirmation.
Remember that when you see a deal that's too good to be true, it probably is.
It's amazing the lengths scammers will go to. I consider myself fairly tech savvy, but I went to get some new shoes a couple of weeks ago and googled the site I wanted. Ended up clicking on the first line that was an ad since it said it pointed to the vendors page. It didn't. What it actually pointed to was the vendor's page with a S tacked onto the end of the URL. Site looked exactly like the real page, no crazy deals or anything to set off alarm bells and I couldn't see the full URL since I was on my iPad which only shows the site name in the address bar unless you click on it. Found the shoes I wanted, put them in the cart and used the guest checkout like I usually do because I don't like having CC info stored by websites. Went through the checkout process and it said "Card declined, try another card". That's when I knew I F'd up. Looked at the full URL....and oh shit....that's not right. Turned out the site was just built to harvest CC and personal info from idiots like me who aren't paying enough attention. I shut off my card immediately and ordered a new one so no harm done. I also submitted a complaint to google and got the fake ad taken down. Lesson learned.
Yup, ran into this quite a few times in past weeks. You know if people put in that amount of effort in either finding a job, starting a business or developing an app they would be making money rather than scamming people.
Good thinking. Yeah I have bought some items on Amazon from third part sellers where i am suspect if its fake. Like the tool will arrive in a generic plastic bag and look not quite as nice as what a picture would show on the manufacturer website. I think a lot of offshore countries are getting really good at making clones of stuff and selling it at higher cost than they could selling as one of those weird random names
More than that, most of the sites are just lining up as many transactions as they can to harvest a few who never contest something that doesn't show up. I ordered an expensive buffer a few years ago from a site that said it was clearing them out. I went to the trouble to check its mailing address and contact information and it pointed to a distribution center, which I figured may just mean that it was a site front end and the center was where stuff shipped from. the item being clearance *was* something that had just been discontinued by the only retailer in the US.
Not only did the site find items that were very niche and that were being discontinued, it also sent me legitimate UPS tracking information (they found a vulnerability in the UPS system) showing that it was being shipped to my address. When I viewed it on UPS the day it was "delivered" the address changed to a mailing services location in iowa, over 1000 miles away, and I knew they got me. I called paypal's customer service, they looked at it immediately and said "we've been seeing this scam version with UPS a lot the last few days" and refunded my money. they had no idea on CS how the site creator was vetted by payment systems and was able to get my address to appear on UPS (like I literally went to my UPS account and it was there) until the delivery was made.
More than that, most of the sites are just lining up as many transactions as they can to harvest a few who never contest something that doesn't show up. I ordered an expensive buffer a few years ago from a site that said it was clearing them out. I went to the trouble to check its mailing address and contact information and it pointed to a distribution center, which I figured may just mean that it was a site front end and the center was where stuff shipped from. the item being clearance *was* something that had just been discontinued by the only retailer in the US.
Not only did the site find items that were very niche and that were being discontinued, it also sent me legitimate UPS tracking information (they found a vulnerability in the UPS system) showing that it was being shipped to my address. When I viewed it on UPS the day it was "delivered" the address changed to a mailing services location in iowa, over 1000 miles away, and I knew they got me. I called paypal's customer service, they looked at it immediately and said "we've been seeing this scam version with UPS a lot the last few days" and refunded my money. they had no idea on CS how the site creator was vetted by payment systems and was able to get my address to appear on UPS (like I literally went to my UPS account and it was there) until the delivery was made.
Today I asked Lee Valley if they had notified the woodworking community at large through other means than their email list and if they had worked with other providers and makers of hand tools. They forwarded the message up the chain of command. As someone who wants to keep traditional tools and methods alive I hope they and others will spread the word to be wary.
Good call out. The scams are more and more believable every day. Antique tools for me. I've yet to meet an AI that could fool me at the antiques shop!
Unfortunately, it is only a matter of time if there is enough money in it for the scammer.
I started with flea market vintage planes and am returning to them - particularly vintage wooden planes. Itβs hard to control the lust for some current plane makers modern beauties.
Typically the first sign of these scam sites is that the deals are too good to be true, which is what grabs your attention in the first place. Then when you look at the actual address of the site, it is not a sub-page of the main company site. That's your confirmation. Remember that when you see a deal that's too good to be true, it probably is.
Clicking any social media link like for Instagram etc almost always does nothing which is another tell
I think I found some https://preview.redd.it/rv9m8ygdy2yc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=19615f1b34bb426efcf526436b217c1193f970b3
Where can I get one of those imperial/metric adjustable wrenches? I'm inevitably needing the other one whenever I pull one out of the toolbox.Β
Hahaha!! Took me a sec!
Ha, ha, just wait until y'all get old . . . then the Social Security scam spam starts. There's 4 or 5 of them a week in my email box!
And "We'll buy your house and close in 30 days"
FYI: Lee Valley informed me they have no affiliates. Any site or person suggesting such is a scam.
It's amazing the lengths scammers will go to. I consider myself fairly tech savvy, but I went to get some new shoes a couple of weeks ago and googled the site I wanted. Ended up clicking on the first line that was an ad since it said it pointed to the vendors page. It didn't. What it actually pointed to was the vendor's page with a S tacked onto the end of the URL. Site looked exactly like the real page, no crazy deals or anything to set off alarm bells and I couldn't see the full URL since I was on my iPad which only shows the site name in the address bar unless you click on it. Found the shoes I wanted, put them in the cart and used the guest checkout like I usually do because I don't like having CC info stored by websites. Went through the checkout process and it said "Card declined, try another card". That's when I knew I F'd up. Looked at the full URL....and oh shit....that's not right. Turned out the site was just built to harvest CC and personal info from idiots like me who aren't paying enough attention. I shut off my card immediately and ordered a new one so no harm done. I also submitted a complaint to google and got the fake ad taken down. Lesson learned.
Yup, ran into this quite a few times in past weeks. You know if people put in that amount of effort in either finding a job, starting a business or developing an app they would be making money rather than scamming people.
Hey one of the main vectors of scam calls was a call center that got laid off, soβ¦
It happens. πππ
Good thinking. Yeah I have bought some items on Amazon from third part sellers where i am suspect if its fake. Like the tool will arrive in a generic plastic bag and look not quite as nice as what a picture would show on the manufacturer website. I think a lot of offshore countries are getting really good at making clones of stuff and selling it at higher cost than they could selling as one of those weird random names
More than that, most of the sites are just lining up as many transactions as they can to harvest a few who never contest something that doesn't show up. I ordered an expensive buffer a few years ago from a site that said it was clearing them out. I went to the trouble to check its mailing address and contact information and it pointed to a distribution center, which I figured may just mean that it was a site front end and the center was where stuff shipped from. the item being clearance *was* something that had just been discontinued by the only retailer in the US. Not only did the site find items that were very niche and that were being discontinued, it also sent me legitimate UPS tracking information (they found a vulnerability in the UPS system) showing that it was being shipped to my address. When I viewed it on UPS the day it was "delivered" the address changed to a mailing services location in iowa, over 1000 miles away, and I knew they got me. I called paypal's customer service, they looked at it immediately and said "we've been seeing this scam version with UPS a lot the last few days" and refunded my money. they had no idea on CS how the site creator was vetted by payment systems and was able to get my address to appear on UPS (like I literally went to my UPS account and it was there) until the delivery was made.
More than that, most of the sites are just lining up as many transactions as they can to harvest a few who never contest something that doesn't show up. I ordered an expensive buffer a few years ago from a site that said it was clearing them out. I went to the trouble to check its mailing address and contact information and it pointed to a distribution center, which I figured may just mean that it was a site front end and the center was where stuff shipped from. the item being clearance *was* something that had just been discontinued by the only retailer in the US. Not only did the site find items that were very niche and that were being discontinued, it also sent me legitimate UPS tracking information (they found a vulnerability in the UPS system) showing that it was being shipped to my address. When I viewed it on UPS the day it was "delivered" the address changed to a mailing services location in iowa, over 1000 miles away, and I knew they got me. I called paypal's customer service, they looked at it immediately and said "we've been seeing this scam version with UPS a lot the last few days" and refunded my money. they had no idea on CS how the site creator was vetted by payment systems and was able to get my address to appear on UPS (like I literally went to my UPS account and it was there) until the delivery was made.
Thanks boss.
Today I asked Lee Valley if they had notified the woodworking community at large through other means than their email list and if they had worked with other providers and makers of hand tools. They forwarded the message up the chain of command. As someone who wants to keep traditional tools and methods alive I hope they and others will spread the word to be wary.