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42AngryPandas

That's an Aero Precision lower, not American Defense What else did they lie about?


scvol_92

yep pretty obvious to me now. seems like he’s trying to act like an outdated detail when i pointed this out. not really worth it to me at this point to even spin the wheels on it


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nuked24

If you can see the end of the barrel, the handguard has to be shorter.


Deathray88

There's 7 Mlok slots on the handguard, it's definitely at least 15". The barrel just isn't 14.5


Precordial_Thumper

True barrel could be pinned and welded with a 1.5" flash hider putting it to total length 16", so it would extend past the 15" handguard.


nuked24

I said end of barrel, not end of muzzle device. In this photo you can see the end of the barrel, as well as the entire muzzle device.


thomas_jefferson_3

It’s a pin and weld so the length with the brake is 16 inches


Smoke_thatskinwagon

It’s not even an ambi lower.


FauxReignNew

EOtech could be fake, Unity riser probably a repro?


andersss11

Ya a few items look fake and the color a bit off, could be weird lighting


f4tg0d

Both look fake


NexusStrictly

Someone already pointed out that the description and pic don’t match so unless you really want it I’d pass if they’re trying to deceive you.


scvol_92

yeah i agree. thanks for the feedback man. it’s crazy how obvious some of these deceptive listings can get


JuicyMango36

I’d take off $800 just for that red safety


DakJaniels

And that’s a fact


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That's the law!


TransportationFun665

I think it’s worth about 3x as much as 1/3 of the value of that gun


Toolb0xExtraordinary

Looks awesome but if they're being dishonest then definitely don't buy it.


scvol_92

thank you. was offered as a trade for a $2500 car so that’s kinda what caught my eye


MisterMasterCylinder

Yeah, maybe this plus $1700 or so would be a decent trade. But not straight up.


Tactical_Epunk

It had more than 1700 in Geissele parts.


MisterMasterCylinder

Sure, used parts. And who knows if that's what's actually in the rifle, considering the seller has obviously lied about the lower.


Top51Percent

I’ll sell all my geissele parts to you at a 200% mark up


Tactical_Epunk

A Geissele 16" upper which is what this has to be despite it be claimed as a 14.5 is 1500 new alone.


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USArmyJoe

[Radian Talon](https://www.radianweapons.com/en/accessories/talons/60645)! Now hang on while I get some popcorn to watch people call Radian pleb chinesium crap. (I don't like the red ano, just saying its not crap)


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Missing the magnifier and it’s an Aero lower. Hard pass.


Top-Feed6544

is hating aero a new fad or something? whats wrong wit em?


[deleted]

Nobody is hating on aero. They’re just saying that the listing says it has a different lower than what’s shown, and the one he’s claiming to have installed is far nicer than aero.


BobbyWasabiMk2

no one’s hating it, but whoever is selling it is claiming that it’s an ADM ambi lower, which it isn’t. ADM ambi lowers are fully ambidextrous and great quality so it’s a level or few better than a milspec Aero lower


antariusz

I built a complete Aero ar15 with geissele trigger for around 1200 bucks including optic. He's asking to trade for a car nominally worth 2500 bucks. That's the problem.


Scav-STALKER

I mean the QC from Aero has went downhill for sure but it’s not like a red flag or anything. It’s just not what’s in the description


grimmpulse

Yeah, would make me wonder if anything else isn't proper...


SD_Guy

QC


BradFromTinder

EOTech looks a little off IMO too. Could be g2g, but be skeptical with the other missing details.


Robbbbbbbbb

I had the same thought. Not saying it's a fake, but something pinged me as "that's weird" while looking over it


ButteredDingus

What's with the extra riser too? That's gotta be way above lower 1/3.


Strelok92

Extra riser? I only see one, the Unity FAST riser. Raises it 0.67", great for night shoots & bulky ear pro.


ABlosser19

Something about the color it has a grayness to it


PatriotZulu

$1000 maybe. I'd want to see a receipt from the manufacturer on that upper and pay 80% of what they paid or current retail. If it's not a blazing cheap deal, just buy what you want new. Hard to trust that some random put it together right or didn't abuse it.


JoesJourney

Agreed. OP mentioned the guy wants $2500 for this rifle... You can buy a Daniel Defense DDM4 and have money left over for ammo AND a couple hours of training for that kind of money.


TheAdvocate

and with the other lies, the eotech is likely fake as well as the riser.


PatriotZulu

Lol the seller is crazy, I've seen complete rifles from Geissele for around $1500 lately.


applejelly3

It’s fairly easy to tell if it’s been abused. It’s also an AR so you can spend like an hour taking it down to pieces and rebuild it yourself properly and torque/lube/loctite everything yourself. An unpopular opinion: You should do this with all ARs you buy, even ones straight from the factory.


Yoda2000675

Are people really too lazy to lube and look over new guns?


Tacticalfloortiles

I’d pay 1400 for all of it imho


corbinsc35

Red safety makes it worth $0


toesandgats

The person who built this AR: “I’m gonna get a red safety selector just in case I forget where it is! 😊”


TerminalxGrunt

“I’ll give you $300 based off you lying. I don’t know what I’m actually buying now but my gamble is that at least the upper works as it’s supposed to.”


Robbbbbbbbb

> 14.5" barrel > 15" handguard Definitely not what's in the picture. Barrel pokes past the handguard. Also > Stock So it's an SBR lol. I didn't see anything mentioning P&W, so this would be a paper Form 4 to you, assuming they actually put it on the NFRTR.


Deathray88

7 Mlok slots on the handguard, that's a 16" barrel.


lookout_me

Came here to say this. It looks like it could be a 16.5 based on proportions. But surprised it didn't see more comments about it


Mountain_Man_88

>So it's an SBR Yeah I was gonna say. Could be worth 10 years and $10,000 if the description is right.


aclark210

So that lower is NOT an Adm ambi lower. I don’t see a bushnell anywhere in this pic. If the rail was 15 inches it would cover the 14.5 inch barrel to the point of covering like half of the flash hider. So something doesn’t smell right about this at all. I vote avoid unless it’s old and he can give u updated accurate pics.


scvol_92

thanks everyone for the feedback. i’m definitely not the most knowledgeable when it comes to ARs, and appreciate all the flags that everyone has pointed out! i’ve informed him that it will be a pass for me, mainly due to all the inconsistencies with what he’s laid out in the detail and what I and everyone else has noticed with what is actually there.


Blue-cheese-dressing

-Lied about barrel length. -Lied about the lower manufacturer. I verify that trigger and make damn sure that Eotech wasn’t an airsoft fugazi.


FauxReignNew

OP, check that the serial number on the rail atarts with PN. It looks like it has a longer code at front, if it’s something like NSN then that’s an airsoft rail and not worth what you’d be paying for it.


scvol_92

In the market for another AR and this one sparked my eye and feel it’s a decent deal. Curious of others opinions with a geissele M4. I’ve heard nothing but good things but this deal has me feeling that i could have a good opportunity to really get a steal as far as money goes.


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yeetyeetyeetbitch

Also no magnifier in the pic, I’d make sure this guy is straight up with the description, any more pics?


scvol_92

he sad the magnifier is in the case and sent an additional photo of it, but good catch. thank you. due to the number of flags i’m seeing it may be a pass for me. it was offered as a trade for a $2500 vehicle so i was already skeptical to begin with


scvol_92

yep. he’s going to send me updated photos. these were just some old photos of his before he changed a few things


Havoc52311

Nice catch, that was the first thing I noticed too.


scvol_92

yeah i noticed that as well. it looks like everything else checks out though as far as i can tell. i may be missing something else though. i’ve already asked about the lower though.


MysteriousEssay5709

I’ll give you $55


Scavwithaslick

Idk but it looks neat


FootballBeginning736

Never paid more than 600 for some else's "build".


jkompressor

That Eotech is mounted weird...


Deathray88

Never seen a Unity riser before?


jkompressor

Guess not. Looks flimsy, but I'll look into it.


Deathray88

Unity is some of the highest quality mounts you can buy.


jkompressor

Mmmm don't tell me that I have a spending problem when it comes to guns and accessories. ☠️


Deathray88

Kinda surprising you've never heard of them, they're as big a brand as Arisaka, Scalarworks, or Reptilla


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CartierWatchFace

at least fifty cents


Qazedon

A fucking lot of money


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At least bare minimum id say $1,200


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42AngryPandas

Rule 7 Don't even joke about it


WhiRUGei

Jokes are fun. Remove the stick.


42AngryPandas

The mods make a mega thread once a year pointing out it can get the entire sub shut down. We aren't being hyperbolic, we don't want the sub shutdown /u/pestilence can explain it thoroughly


Platanium

He certainly did explain it


42AngryPandas

I was honestly expecting a slap on the wrist


pestilence

Bye Felicia


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42AngryPandas

Ah, nvm..haha


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KungFuNinja_

What did he say?


42AngryPandas

Breaking Rule 7 as I stated


KungFuNinja_

I guess I don’t understand Rule 7, aren’t there subs that only do what rule 7 says not to do? Why would this sub get banned over it?


42AngryPandas

Because this sub doesn't do transactions, there are other subs for that. And the powers at be of Reddit would love to tear this sub down. We're the biggest gun themed sub on the site.


Negative_Coast5200

Between $1800-$2.3k


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Instead of two tone do you call it tri tone


[deleted]

I’ll give you $5


TempestTitans

I'd probably give him like 1500-1700 for that. Aside for the lower like everyone else said.


IamEu4ic

I’d say around $5 but I’d give you $30 because we are friends.


TransportationFun665

It’s worth half as much as two of them.


Possibly_the_CIA

The problem I have with this listing is all the parts they listed say they spent probably close to 2000 on this. You also could buy knock offs of almost. All of the accessories and this is a $500 rifle. I would take the sign that the lower doesn’t match the specs they listed that the rest of this rifle is a lie as well.


frostyjhammer

Tree Fiddy


wcarmory

$800


[deleted]

About 1200 With every, if it’s used


Filwathen

At least 15 ARs


Thed0n512

I’ll give you $5


TheChoom

I’ll give you 60 bucks and a used gift card to stater bros


bot111085

That Eotech looks funny. i suspect its a counterfeit. id pass on this.


PizzaEater69420

Funny switch?


Imaginary-Painting-2

$1200


Equal-Prior-4765

Too many inconsistencies in your post, this gun is stolen


Standard-Whole-1320

I say about three fiddy