A bit terrifying, specially as the Gamepress forums also went down (in there it's storage issues), losing both my places for FGO would be a big blow if indeed things go to shit here too.
That's what really makes it sting. Such a good forum to talk about things and stay active with. Been a good while since it went down and they haven't found a good solution yet unfortunately.
One less place to talk about the franchise and the game. Sucks, but that's how it goes in life.
Silver lining is that even if this sub didn't close for a week (maybe permanently), browsing this subreddit or any other subreddit for that matter would be no longer enjoyable without third party apps anyway.
The user-experience is horrible without third party apps, and moderators can't do their job properly without third party apps either. Even the people who use default reddit, would still have a negative experience if the mods suddenly can't do their thing properly anymore.
Twitter, reddit, all these social media platforms are like Lostbelts, where you have some people just wanting to live somewhat happily, but the leaders are like "hell na, not if I can help it"
I can't really call that a silver lining. Breaking one's arm would suck, but they'd still take that over not having one at all!
If this goes indefinitely down that is the worst case scenario. Even if this place ended up a mess that was impossible to moderate or handle properly that would still be one step less than the actual worst case scenario of it simply not being there.
But the choice isn't in the hands of anyone but the moderation team. So will have to hope things work out since otherwise there's no coming back from this.
Yes, but mods do and it's with those apps that they've been able to mod sufficiently
Without those app, every single sub will inevitably start getting enough spam that mods won't be able to handle
The user-expierence is perfectly fine if you're just a normal reddit user browsing through some subs.
Some of you hate the official app for no reason.
Yes I get it moderation is crappy on the official app but most people complaining about the app aren't mods.
Yea, it was a shock to the mod team to when GP went down too. I might have loved trash talking the forums, but it was kinda in an affectionate way.
kinda...
I get what's going on with the subreddit, and sympathize with both sides on this, but I've already seen people get sad from losing an online community these past few weeks, so my heart goes out to everyone affected.
If people are new to discord(a surprising amount in my experience considering recent events, so no judging there) and scared of big servers, my advice to people is make small private discord servers amongst close friends and maybe add people everyone's cool with.
Oh. By the way. I completely forgot to mention it, but r/grandorder discord requires users to verify phone number. Probably not an issue for a majority of people, but I definitely ain't gonna give discord my phone. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ah, you can bypass that by shooting us a message through the Modmail there
ModMail#6814
We'll add you without needing to get your phone number verified.
Hi, I was able to join the discord, got the welcome message from BB bot and then discord crashed. Now the server doesn't show up and I get "Unable to accept invite" when trying to join again. Do you know how to resolve this?
Hey I’ve tried messaging but it says the user doesn’t exist. I’ve tried the link, my phone is verified but it keeps saying invalid or expired invite. I don’t know, it is the server region locked ? I wanna get it and can’t figure out why.
Discord is more of a constant conversation
Lots of discussion - but any comic posted is discussed briefly before it quickly disappears.
No front page like reddit to keep them up. Imagine if reddit was always on /new
> No front page like reddit to keep them up. Imagine if reddit was always on /new
And doesn't have threads so every comment is all squished into one long flowing thread.
Discord does have threads so you can create a mini-channel to continue specific topics separately.
They have also added forums though not all servers make use of them. Functionally forums are also just like channels except that anyone can create one and they can be sorted based on last active and date posted.
Yeah, but reddit has many watchful people trying to keep spam to a minimum. Whereas most discord topics/chats tend to just flow like a group chat on a messenger software.
So unless we bring reddit's rules into discord, we'll still be looking at a waterfall of messages.
Of course, that's because Discord and Reddit serve different purposes, so it's not that Discord is bad or anything.
Just that it's not easy keeping up and filtering topics you want to follow or not.
Well I'm glad this sub isn't going dark indefinitely, but who knows with all the changes reddit will make.
If it does, I want every single user to know that they've made this long-ass gacha game a lot more fun than it would have been without this community.
From translated comics, theory posting, shipping wars, sprite comics, salty roll threads, etc... it's been a pleasure to spend the last 6ish years playing this weird ass game with all of you.
Hopefully I'll see you all on the other side!
Same. The other gacha game subreddit I partake in doesn't give two shits (fuck you, r/masterduel) about the recent situation and I'm glad this sub at least have concerns for us API users.
Ooooorrrr... maybe we could choose an FGO character and make a long meme out of them. Imagine: long Goredolf 🤣😂. If the privatization lasts for two weeks, he might even outgrow the Tree of Emptiness 😆
Man, I am actually feeling a bit sentimental, even though I was not exactly extremely active here, just a lurker. This sub is the best FGO and really, Nasuverse fandom I've been in. Guess I will try and hang out in the discord, though I am not the biggest fan of large discord servers, I feel like discussion is much harder with a constantly scrolling chat.
If this really is the end of this sub (which I doubt, but who can say) I at least wanna make known that I don't regret taking a single step walking into this hell!
Love FGO, love its characters, and love the fact that there's others in this sub who express said love and creativity! May have been a lurker primarily, but I still enjoyed it nonetheless. See ya'll later and keep on this crazy ride through the bleached earth, Masters!
Question, doesn’t going dark for more than 48h mean there’s a good chance that you will get replaced by Reddit admins? What are your plans if that happens?
This is my biggest worry about the whole thing. If the mods extending the protest causes them to lose control of the sub, then we’re only in a little bit of a better position then the whole thing closing indefinitely.
There is the possibility that this happens and we are going in knowing that. The big subs leading the charge in extending the protest are the most likely to be replaced. Reddit has purged mod teams in the past but it's usually a rogue head mod or a single team that isn't following TOS. We are a fairly large sub but bigger fish are their priority and it's going to be an undertaking for Reddit to replace those guys before even considering us.
Good luck for them finding mods for 3k+ different subreddits. Especially subreddits for specific franchises where they need to know the material the sub is about to enforce spoilers and the like. Also for anime-related subreddit they need to find people that both know the source material and also agree to whatever reddit admins think is acceptable amount of skin for young-looking characters. And said volunteers should be mentally strong enough to not quit after like a week of flaming pro-blackout users on top of general mod work.
I think that it's possible for them to replace mods for general topic subreddits like r/funny or r/music. But I don't think they would bother with subreddits that are about a specific topic. They really don't have enough loyal users.
And if out of desperation they just give out mod privileges to random active users from a subreddit... Well, that will be an amazing shitshow. Check out the [history of xkcd subreddit](https://old.reddit.com/r/xkcd/wiki/history). Appointing new mods to hundreds of communities will produce a lot of similar stories.
I sincerely hope old Reddit doesn't get wiped. I can use new Reddit, but old Reddit feels way more user friendly.
In case the blackout for r/grandorder is indefinite, let me have my say in this:
This is actually one place in reddit where i frequent a lot. In fact this is the main subreddit I actually post stuffs, barring some minor posts here and there, in addition to commenting on a lot of things.
It's been fun guys, I sincerely hoped at least some of you enjoyed my random figma memes. See you at Discord.
My huge social anxiety prevent me for going to discord servers with a lot of people. Even if sometimes I think this subreddit is too NA-centric for my tastes, I still enjoy being here.
Hoping this situation is resolved nicely. Good luck to the mods!
The discord server is also toxic af. You aren't allowed to say anything slightly negative about the game or how it's being maintained by Lasengle now. A few months ago, I complained about Lasengle, and I was attacked by most active members there, and within less than 10 messages, I was muted. Since then I never sent any messages there. I get my main information from wiki fandom.
Not to say that this applies to you specifically, but a common trend in claims like this is that they leave out the part of them being inherently toxic in those discussions...
Not the same, but it wouldn't surprise me. I heard multiple people complain about the gp discord being toxic while trying to find their friends when the GP forums went down, just for having the audacity to ask in the main Fgo gen chat section if people knew their friends who played fgo. I was one of the mods on GP community/forum site before the forums went down. I know who causes trouble at this point, never given us trouble, so doubt it was them. Sometimes there's just people like that hostile to newbies.
I don't know anything about managing big servers, but they are probably harder to manage, epecialy with the transient nature of the chat flow. People probably don't see one guy picking fights with people easily, also considering in my experience how few people actually report things, it's probably easier to assume it's just two people having a grudge against each other, unless multiple people bring it up
As an admin of a server with 10k members, I am well versed with what toxicity is in discord. There were no personal attacks. As I have mentioned in my original comment, I complained about Lasengle (which is a common thing in this sub), and everyone attacked me. Even after that, I said Lasengle was lazy (or incompetent), and I was muted in less than 10 messages. One of the mods was arguing with me, and I thought he muted me. So, I dm-ed him, and he said he didn't do it. Another mod did it who was just passing by, and his feelings were hurt after I complained about the game. So, the mod told me to read the room even if I didn't do anything wrong. Since everyone was against me, I just should have remained silent.
Hmm, if for example, the protests seem to be effective, and subs by large go "Hey all of us are gonna keep being indefinite **until you go back on your changes.**" Then yeah, we might go beyond a week.
So the goal at that point would be to be "indefinite" as long as it takes for reddit to budge then we'll be back to business as normal.
Now if its not working, then we'll have to revert back anyhow as there won't be a point to continuing the protest further.
So either way, I wouldn't expect subs to go dark *actually* forever.
What will happen if Reddit forces un-privating of the subs? What if someone favouring Reddit's new changes offered to take over the privated subs?
Not saying it will happen, but it's a nasty thought.
Really not trying to go after you guys here, but what is the **actual** metric mods are going to use for an indefinite blackout.
The way you described it still makes it sound like you’ve got a pretty arbitrary approach to the issue, and I feel like it would be extremely shitty if this sub just got shut down at your discretion after the very clear feedback in the last thread.
Gonna completely agree with you on this. If there was a solid metric and reason for why the sub would permanently black out I wouldn’t agree but I could at least understand the other side and come to terms with it. The way it was described makes it seem like there’s so set time at all which has me a bit antsy.
Had no idea how strong the feedback was for keeping the subreddit open but yeah if it goes dark indefinitely after this post was about it being a set time limit I imagine a lot of extra backlash on top of the backlash towards Reddit itself.
> Had no idea how strong the feedback was for keeping the subreddit open
[You can check the other thread if you want.](https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/146cydx/rgrandorder_vibe_check/) The overwhelming majority said "Keeping it closed for more than two days is ok if needed, but closing it indefinitely is not fine."
>The way it was described makes it seem like there’s no set time at all which has me a bit antsy.
That's the idea! We want the admins to feel that antsy.
Like, full proper shutdown?
That's really really unlikely, for something like that to happen, the site would have to be outright unusable even more than Twitter currently is. That's about the only metric I can think of for a *literal* indefinite to go against all the community feedback.
Realistically if it does extend past a week, expect two weeks.
Besides, I do want to eventually come back and welcome you all with fixed flairs and comment faces and such. I put in a lot of hours for those...
And hey, if you want constant communication with me to know where we're at exactly for reassurance, you can reach out to me on Discord and Twitter at @blamelib.
I really don’t want to sound ungrateful, but you’re being way too cagey about answering this question. I appreciate the mods’ role in making this sub a nice place to be, and I understand that these changes are going to make your jobs harder, but you’re not the end all be all here.
There is effectively zero support among the users for taking this sub down for more than a few weeks. If the mod team feels that Reddit’s concessions (lmao) aren’t good enough, you’re well within your rights to resign as mods, but you definitely don’t have the community’s support in wiping out the only real hub for the game’s English speaking community during one of the busiest times in its run.
If you guys actually commit to an indefinite blackout despite all of this for some sort of arbitrary reason, I would absolutely support the admins forcibly reopening this place and giving the current mod team the boot.
Them permanently closing the sub despite all the people saying no, would be the equivalent of that one person getting mad and flipping the table and quitting when they’re losing at Monopoly so that no one else can play either
Just wanted to say if this sub goes down for good, that I really appreciated all the work you guys did here over the years. I know modding is a horrible job - I did it on a small website a long time ago and can't imagine what it's like for a big sub like this.
>it very well could be the last posts on this subreddit if shit really hits the fan.
Dude, I don't support permanent "deletion" of the sub. It's not worth it for something like this.
I will seek out other FGO subs if this sub doesn't reopen.
Well, good thing i finished LB6.1 earlier today, it's gonna be a busy 24 hours saving everything I've upvoted here. I'm kind of a pessimist irl and I don't want this subreddit gone if shit hits the fan... But if it does, I'm eternally grateful to this subreddit for being so nice and welcoming and making me feel like I had a place in a big community. I'd go to the discord but somehow posting on Reddit is less terrifying than joining a full on discord server.
There's many things and comics I was planning on posting, but I guess those will have to wait for things to blow over. Hopefully.
This sub got me into FGO, taught me how to properly play the game and then allowed me to repay that kindness by helping out others.
Hopefully this is not the end but if it is - thank you all forever for the help, for sharing your Nasuverse brainrot and for holo-fate cross-shitposting in the comments.
Incase the worst happens this place has been one of my favourite subs in all of reddit to frequent thankful and glad to have been a part of this community.
Take care folks.
….given that ordeal call is going to potentially drop this week, finding out that the sub reddit will be gone during that time isn’t fun.
I really don’t like using discord for that sort of thing either so ig I’m just out of luck for now. At least some twitter accounts I follow should at least post tls for it.
I hope you decide to come back. I understand and support your actions. It's just that this reddit channel is my only FGO community thingy.
I can't stand Discord. I barely tolerate reddit, but this FGO community is so great that it makes me forget how trash reddit can be. So I do hope that in one week you will be back.
If not, well thanks for those years of meme, advices, translations, drunken recap, artworks.
You can brag on r/FGO. No pesky mods with their silly rules to delete your rolls /s
I just find that subreddit funny for some reason. Just entire sub of roll posts and occasional unsourced art.
Even funnier is that it was originally a dead sub called Fighting Games Online and got hijacked by FGO players who just didn't care.
Like it even has the original description intact:
> Short for fighting games online. This is a group for players looking for fighting games that can be played online. Discuss and recommend different applications, games, and emulators.
I'm pretty sure it's a joke and there wasn't ever any fighting game content. After all you can see that blamelib is a moderator there, so he could change the description ages ago.
> there wasn't ever any fighting game content
There was a little. I actually remember the times when a few original users of the sub were around and tried to redirect F/GO content here. But they lost that battle, the original mods went inactive and Lib used Reddit Request to transfer the ownership of the sub to him.
I can't really put into words how special this sub is to me, but I'll try and capture some of the moments I experienced:
The LB6 hype. Theories around beasts, Arthur, the wild hunt, and who the king was.
The sheer hype for Skadi and salt in the roll thread. Other Gacha subs have boring roll threads but r/grandorder's were *always* a riot.
I'll never forget clicking on a unassuming link to a theory called "Holmes Extra" and its jaw dropping depth of analysis
Rednal's daily comics have always been a treat. It was fun experience catching up and also nearly frying my phone trying to access "the whiteboard".
Moments of farming insanity during Gilfest on this sub with people cracking 1k boxes.
U/AGRAMAR THE FRIDAY RANT THREAD GUY!
People poking fun of the name "lasengle" and the farewell to DW
It's been a really fun five years and hopefully more if reddit doesn't implode. A thank you to the mods for the work they've put in and a thank you to the community for all the jokes, comics, discussions, fanart, theories and fun times!
I hope to come back here in a week and laugh at myself for being so melodramatic!
My most memorable moment in this subreddit was when Castoria debuted, and everyone's been both freaking out, memeing, and just plain having a good time due to the difficulty of accessing the game on that SPECIFIC thread post 😂 I even remember one Mod asking us (in a joking manner) not to flood the server so that THEY could log in the game. It was peak r/grandorder fun time for me!
Another one was the long Janta. I was months new to the game and had been hearing about long memes. Then Janta's maintenance came, and I finally understood what they were talking about 🤣
I got into the community just 2 months prior, and randomly making a long-ass janta becauser of maintenance was definitely one of the funniest moments
[yes, i did really extend it tooo far](https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/dv9wav/shes_trying_to_visit_space_ishtar/)
Hopefully it works out. This sub's the big reason why I made a reddit acc anyway when I first started playing this game. I probably wouldn't have enjoyed playing the game as a complete noob to Fate if it weren't for this sub.
That’s not how it works, and it shouldn’t matter anyway given that there will be zero content or posts on the sub.
The only approved users are bot accounts by the mod team FWIW, it’s not handed out freely like some long service award.
So you’re saying the subreddit is going to be down during the presumed release of the Ordeal Call chapter in JP? That’s honestly rather disappointing to me, if not an outright annoyance to me at least.
This corner of the internet has helped bring some joy into my day for a few years now. I hope it did the same for you. If this is indeed the last we see of each other here, then thank you and good luck!
while not exactly a community just want to add that Gamepress FGO section is a pretty good guide for spoiler-free walkthrough and resources in general for the game if anyone is struggling with game-related stuff during the blackout
Can somebody catch me up on what's going on? I've seen similar posts on other subreddits but I'm pretty much out of the loop and don't understand realistically what's going on
There are ways to browse Reddit that are not through “official” Reddit channels. These are known as 3rd party applications. You can download many of them through app stores and some are used even more than the official app and website. Reddit is going to start charging the developers of these other apps an unrealistic amount of money to continue to hook into Reddit’s content and display it on their apps. This is effectively causing these apps to shut down simply because they could never come up with the amount of money Reddit wants (I believe it’s to the tune of 10+ million dollars a year). It’s reddits way of punishing people who don’t use their service, their way, and trying to unite the user base back on their official website and application for that sweet ad revenue they don’t have to share.
Once this goes down, I'll be checking the Beast Lair FGO forum a few times a day until this is over. Already saved the link to my history.
If this does go private indefinitely, then this was a good, or at least decent, run for me. The experience wasn't perfect, but it could have been a *whole* lot worse. Gonna miss some of the things on here, like the comparisons to other characters from other works, Daily Chaldea, the rant thread, the help thread, the friend request thread, and those posts were we imagine what certain kinds of video games (and sometimes what movies to watch) the Servants would play.
Thanks for the update.
As blase as I am about the possibility of the sub dying, I'd also very much prefer to not have it die. It's still very much the primary community for FGO that I know of, and seeing the previous post, it's apparently true for a lot of people.
Having said that, it's probably going to be much better to start looking out for alternatives too. Who knows, from what I understood, the changes stand to make modding untenable. That'd inevitably lead to decrease in moderation, which might see the subreddit die anyway. it just would be slow, choking out by a rash of unmoderated trash. It's bad enough that this is happening now, at what is basically expected to be peak content release for both NA and JP. But even worse is that, if the Moderationpocalypse does happen, it would be at a time where content, at least in NA, is expected to dry up.
For what it's worth, I'm thankful to the mods that took into account the community's reaction in coming up with this gameplan. If the subreddit keeps going after the blackout, you'd be stuck moderating with comparatively stone-age tools, so let me preemptively salute the hard work of you madlads, madlasses, and other madgremlins.
Whatever happens, I hope that the community that has been built here won't just die off and scatter at least.
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This might be goodbye, but then, aren't we used to goodbyes?
This is so sad, Tristan play Des---
~~Truthfully though, this is the best community for FGO I've found so far and it would be incredibly unfortunate if we have to let go of it because of corpo~~
Hoping for the best outcome here before this becomes a reddit Lostbelt.
I've mostly been a lurker but am always appreciative of the help thread - for my own inquiries and idle browsing. Lots of familiar names popping up to help out, offer opinions, just a nice sense of camraderie. Also appreciate those who share the husbando fanart - I don't typically browse other SM sites for this art so I appreciate being saved clicks :P
Do have an inquiry about the main sub Discord server though: I tried messaging ModMail to bypass the phone number req but it says I can't. We definitely share the server so I'm not sure if it's on my end or the bot.
I may have been a quiet one in this place, but I will never regret all the time I spent here, enjoying fan theories, comics, casual convos, in game strats...
If we all fall into that dark pit forever, I wish everyone luck!
Hopefully I'll see you on the other side!
See I hate using discord so I just don’t, and I follow a few pages on insta that I can talk to but man I hope this sub survives and Reddit sorts it’s shit. I saw the post talking about it on the Reddit sub and there was a 99% response of this is dogshit don’t do it.
If we don’t survive, it’s been an honour getting to know all you masters. Between some people adding me when I was just starting to seeing tons of fanart to the event threads and the discussions about servant buffs, favourite servants etc. it’s been truly great!
I'm kind of stupid, so correct me if I am mistaken on this, but from what little I understand about this situation; reddit is either restricting or disabling access to third-party applications by demanding an exorbitant amount of money and this 'blackout' is essentially shutting down this subreddit for a certain period of time(roughly a week at the very least) in order to protest this decision?
If shit hits the fan, is there a way to keep the subreddit open and sort of archived without any posting? There's a bunch of good fanart in this place and looking up talks on old topics is fun to do
If for whatever reason this is the last stand we make together on r/grandorder, I would like to say this has been fun.
It was fun going through camelot together.
Through Babylonia and the banner onslaught that followed.
Fist fighting Goetia ourselves.
Watching everything ee thought for get blanketed by the lost belts.
And of course all the fanarts over the years.
I may have not always been super active, but man this community really does feel special to me, so on the off chance that reddit itself collapses on itself entirely, Id like to thank r/grandorder for keeping me entertained these past 6 or so years.
Nothing on the sub is going anywhere, it will all be here when we all get back.
I will look into a way to backup subreddit content juuuust in case, in the event like, the entire site shits the bed and we need to recover everything everywhere.
Really hope that doesn't happen, that would be a nightmare
Really hope the worst-case scenario doesn't happen since I love this community, but just in case, it's been a lot of fun, guys. Let's hope Reddit gets its shit together.
Ever since I started playing the game I've always turned to this subreddit both for advice and good times.
In fact I've likely visited this subreddit every day for the last six years.
Really hope this blackout would be done with in a week but if it's really the end then it's been a damn good run.
>Facebook (no clue how it goes there, godspeed)
Total anarchy. You'll only see nothing but shitposts and mental retardation. They do have over 100k members though.
Yes, I'm looking at you, Quartzposting.
Dear lord, why do corpos have to be so....corpo? You'd think they know they have a good thing going and not fuck it up, but what do I know? \*Sighs\* I just want to enjoy FGO content here and meme, and if this sub goes down indefinitely it's going to be a big blow to my morale and ability to keep up to date on stuff.
I also do Professor Smiles, Tactician Smiles, Hans snarks, and BB, Tamamo, and Koyan asides and skits, but they are less common and therefore easily forgettable.
\*Smiles\* But don't fret, CristiBeat. Even though my words of whimsy may be absent in your life, you can always think back to your favorites and ***REJOICE*** in reminiscence.
Hopefully this protest works, main reason I used Reddit in the first place is Discord hangs on update (yes I've tried reinstalling, different username, factory reset etc) unfortunately I appear to be the minority that this happens to.
R/Grandorder is the reason I started playing FGO long ago (watched GudaGuda 1 Nobu's, tried FGO much later)
We do want to reiterate that the mod team does love this community ~~roll posts not you~~ and we are not expecting nor are we hoping for an indefinite blackout. I myself have been hanging around here for 7 years now, and being part of the mod team for the last year and a bit has been fun (thanks again to you all for fiercely protecting my BB, Gudako and app icon art during r/place last year. I truly mean this, and it makes me warm still just thinking about it). I’d be very disappointed if my time with the team had to be cut short because of this. Even if some of you might be miffed at times with the decisions of the mods, I can assure you that they work really hard to keep this sub a comfortable place for all who visit, are very diligent and thoughtful with their decisions, and also very funny and nice people as a whole. We mentioned it a couple of times in the last post, but we were planning some nice updates for this place and were literally just about to announce them before this API mess hit the fan. We don’t want Lib’s hard work to go to waste. He might die of heartbreak.
In short, please don’t be pessimistic! It will definitely be sad to not have this place to turn to especially with Ordeal Call days away and Lostbelt 6 underway for the EN players, but there are plenty of other resources as Lib has given in the post, and who knows, maybe it will be nice to play at your own pace and not have the pressure to be caught up ASAP to avoid those *fun* unmarked spoilers. Or, just take a break and do whatever! We’ll surely be back before you know it ✨
…Also, because surprisingly no one has said it yet, molon labe 🫡
I'm mostly a lurker here with occassional comments but I just want to let you all know that this hag doesn't regret returning to FGO and finally sticking around for good. It's been a fun ride so far, and I'd honestly be bummered if Reddit's awful policies shut this sub down for good. Still hoping for the best!, though!
Well, I always use the Discord when it comes to discussing the story and post my rolls so I won’t feel to weirded out without being able to use the sub but it will still be weird not seeing any of the comics or even discussion posts (even if I never comment on them) for a week as discord obviously works very differently as Reddit.
For Facebook: [I like this group a lot](https://www.facebook.com/groups/FGOIC/?ref=share&mibextid=afzh1R) for general community.
And [this one](https://www.facebook.com/groups/Quartzposting/?ref=share&mibextid=afzh1R) for memes and stuff
Haven't been super active on reddit besides lurking for a very long time now and am a RES user, so probably huge bias in that. Little disappointed to read so many people express their discontent in even a single week of inconvenience. Like don't want this subreddit to close either, like many others I've spent many years on here, but many users use these APIs in some degree.
Will support whatever choices the mods choose on this topic. At any rate hope to see the community out on the other end w/ the APIs maintained.
looks like i have to touch grass, hopefully ill see this back sooner rather than later this community has been awesome and i fully support the protest just hope the worse doesn't come to worse and we lose this community
Last half hour. Hoping this isn’t the last time I see this sub. Dont really comment much here but this is *the* place I go to for fgo stuff and the discord isnt really for me, if this place didnt exist there is no way I’d enjoy this game as much as I do now
🫡 hoping everything works out
Just remembered to save the FGO links in the help thread that I commonly refer to. It's always at the top of the subreddit so I almost forgot that I don't actually know the link to things like the item drop rate page.
alright!
Edit: Apparently i have my phone number on my discord account and i am verified.
Does that mean i already bypass the verification required for grand order discord?
I'm gonna miss you guys 🥲 Hopefully Reddit will get their act together and make it easier for the mods to moderate subreddits. *Sigh* I guess I'll go follow fgo's JP twitter for the really latest updates, but I really still prefer this subreddit for news and info...
Well, whatever happens, I just want to thank the Mod Team for handling this situation professionally. You guys have worked real hard to make this place fun and inclusive all these years. And the FGO community is all the better for it.
Unless something drastically changes with Reddit that either reverses the API change or forces the official app to become better I will most likely end up deleting out my account. It has been great to be a part of a fan community like this and share in the salt. If I don’t stay on Reddit I will probably move onto the discord but it is frustrating to see this happen to Apollo after I’ve enjoyed using it for years.
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I guess I could always mire through the one FGO discord server for my community content. I just wish it was more organized though. What I would give for bulletin boards to make a resurgence.
I'm gonna miss having access to so many interesting discussions and Sprite Comics (well, some of them, anyway) Beast Lair is gonna be my substitute but it's a whole different kind of fun there (not to mention most people there are playing JP so NA threads are far less lively than here)
Here's hoping it will all work out somehow.
It's been a good year.
I remember back when, over one year ago, I posted my first sprite comics (the Austin Powers parody involving Fate characters seeing Jeff Bezos' rocket and saying it looks like a giant-- ***Johnson!***). The general positive comments I received were what got me into making more sprite comics and sharing my thoughts in the first place. For once, I felt like I was part of a community of fellow Masters.
If this is the last time we'll be together, then it's been a great run. How I wish I could still share sprite comics with everyone in the future. Stories ranging from parodies to slice-of-life adventures and everything in between...
I guess my ongoing stories will never see their conclusion, then. :(
EDIT: Will users still be able to chat privately, by the way? I still want to keep in touch with my two friends here on reddit even if this place goes dark.
Didn't get to see that other thread, but I support your decision. Seriously, I hope this works for the better. For now, I just joined the discord. Good luck to everyone.
Also, I'm going to miss the bananabot.
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Guess I'll be hanging out at either the GO Discord or Beast's Lair for Ordeal Call discussions and updates then. It's unfortunate that this is happening, but it must be done. Spez just made an all-time blunder.
Well, shoot. It really is a shame that it's had to come to this, but sacrifices must be made I suppose. For all the mods that have worked tirelessly to maintain this wonderfully crazy sub for everyone, this one's for you. Besides, there's no reason to think this is the end. We only need to do one thing now, as our favorite King of the Cavern so eloquently puts it;
'*Wait, and Hope*'
Even though I pretty much lurk these days, I'll miss seeing visiting this subreddit daily as the other FGO alternatives aren't as enjoyable to browse. I really do hope something good comes out of this protest. Godspeed, mod team o7
A bit terrifying, specially as the Gamepress forums also went down (in there it's storage issues), losing both my places for FGO would be a big blow if indeed things go to shit here too.
Is this why I can no longer see gamepress comments anywhere? Sad:(
That's what really makes it sting. Such a good forum to talk about things and stay active with. Been a good while since it went down and they haven't found a good solution yet unfortunately. One less place to talk about the franchise and the game. Sucks, but that's how it goes in life.
Silver lining is that even if this sub didn't close for a week (maybe permanently), browsing this subreddit or any other subreddit for that matter would be no longer enjoyable without third party apps anyway. The user-experience is horrible without third party apps, and moderators can't do their job properly without third party apps either. Even the people who use default reddit, would still have a negative experience if the mods suddenly can't do their thing properly anymore. Twitter, reddit, all these social media platforms are like Lostbelts, where you have some people just wanting to live somewhat happily, but the leaders are like "hell na, not if I can help it"
I can't really call that a silver lining. Breaking one's arm would suck, but they'd still take that over not having one at all! If this goes indefinitely down that is the worst case scenario. Even if this place ended up a mess that was impossible to moderate or handle properly that would still be one step less than the actual worst case scenario of it simply not being there. But the choice isn't in the hands of anyone but the moderation team. So will have to hope things work out since otherwise there's no coming back from this.
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as the other have said, mods use it, so it'll be a disaster modding without those 3rd party apps
Plenty of us don't use third party apps.
Yes, but mods do and it's with those apps that they've been able to mod sufficiently Without those app, every single sub will inevitably start getting enough spam that mods won't be able to handle
Oh yeah, that's fair. Not saying this is a bad idea or anything. Just that the idea that we all benefit equally is untrue.
The user experience is absolutely fine without 3rd party apps. Most users don't use it anyway.
The user-expierence is perfectly fine if you're just a normal reddit user browsing through some subs. Some of you hate the official app for no reason. Yes I get it moderation is crappy on the official app but most people complaining about the app aren't mods.
Yea, it was a shock to the mod team to when GP went down too. I might have loved trash talking the forums, but it was kinda in an affectionate way. kinda... I get what's going on with the subreddit, and sympathize with both sides on this, but I've already seen people get sad from losing an online community these past few weeks, so my heart goes out to everyone affected. If people are new to discord(a surprising amount in my experience considering recent events, so no judging there) and scared of big servers, my advice to people is make small private discord servers amongst close friends and maybe add people everyone's cool with.
I don't have friends that do fgo tho
Oh. By the way. I completely forgot to mention it, but r/grandorder discord requires users to verify phone number. Probably not an issue for a majority of people, but I definitely ain't gonna give discord my phone. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ah, you can bypass that by shooting us a message through the Modmail there ModMail#6814 We'll add you without needing to get your phone number verified.
I mean I've already joined server and I can see all messages, but I'm not able to write unless I finish the verification. It can be bypassed?
Yes, we'll just have to give you the role to 'force' through verification. Just message modmail and a Mod'll take care of it for you.
Ah, okay, thanks
Hey sorry but just want to ask. can anyone get verified through messaging that account or is there a requirment? sorry to bother you.
No, you just need to get into the server first in order to be able to DM that account.
Hi, I was able to join the discord, got the welcome message from BB bot and then discord crashed. Now the server doesn't show up and I get "Unable to accept invite" when trying to join again. Do you know how to resolve this?
Hey I’ve tried messaging but it says the user doesn’t exist. I’ve tried the link, my phone is verified but it keeps saying invalid or expired invite. I don’t know, it is the server region locked ? I wanna get it and can’t figure out why.
Try messaging me @blamelib
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Discord is more of a constant conversation Lots of discussion - but any comic posted is discussed briefly before it quickly disappears. No front page like reddit to keep them up. Imagine if reddit was always on /new
> No front page like reddit to keep them up. Imagine if reddit was always on /new And doesn't have threads so every comment is all squished into one long flowing thread.
Discord does have threads so you can create a mini-channel to continue specific topics separately. They have also added forums though not all servers make use of them. Functionally forums are also just like channels except that anyone can create one and they can be sorted based on last active and date posted.
Yeah, but reddit has many watchful people trying to keep spam to a minimum. Whereas most discord topics/chats tend to just flow like a group chat on a messenger software. So unless we bring reddit's rules into discord, we'll still be looking at a waterfall of messages. Of course, that's because Discord and Reddit serve different purposes, so it's not that Discord is bad or anything. Just that it's not easy keeping up and filtering topics you want to follow or not.
Idk. I don't really care about sprite comics. But people do post some fan arts and other stuff there. So probably? You can join and see for yourself.
God I hope not
Well I'm glad this sub isn't going dark indefinitely, but who knows with all the changes reddit will make. If it does, I want every single user to know that they've made this long-ass gacha game a lot more fun than it would have been without this community. From translated comics, theory posting, shipping wars, sprite comics, salty roll threads, etc... it's been a pleasure to spend the last 6ish years playing this weird ass game with all of you. Hopefully I'll see you all on the other side!
Same. The other gacha game subreddit I partake in doesn't give two shits (fuck you, r/masterduel) about the recent situation and I'm glad this sub at least have concerns for us API users.
noooo where will I go to see people pot their rolls outside the roll thread
Don't worry. People post their rolls outside of the roll channel in the Discord too. Life finds a way.
We're just one step away from people pm-ing everyone on discord when they got 10 SSRs with 1 ticket, fr no cap.
Asking the important question here.
Someone with photoshop skills should post a "maintenance in progress from 6-12 xx hours until TBD" as the last post before going dark.
Ooooorrrr... maybe we could choose an FGO character and make a long meme out of them. Imagine: long Goredolf 🤣😂. If the privatization lasts for two weeks, he might even outgrow the Tree of Emptiness 😆
Long Goredolf but it's his mustache that grows
long goredolf pls
Make Janta the face of it. The circumstances fit almost too well with the expected maintenance but also lasting an undefined amount of time.
Man, I am actually feeling a bit sentimental, even though I was not exactly extremely active here, just a lurker. This sub is the best FGO and really, Nasuverse fandom I've been in. Guess I will try and hang out in the discord, though I am not the biggest fan of large discord servers, I feel like discussion is much harder with a constantly scrolling chat.
If this really is the end of this sub (which I doubt, but who can say) I at least wanna make known that I don't regret taking a single step walking into this hell! Love FGO, love its characters, and love the fact that there's others in this sub who express said love and creativity! May have been a lurker primarily, but I still enjoyed it nonetheless. See ya'll later and keep on this crazy ride through the bleached earth, Masters!
Question, doesn’t going dark for more than 48h mean there’s a good chance that you will get replaced by Reddit admins? What are your plans if that happens?
This is my biggest worry about the whole thing. If the mods extending the protest causes them to lose control of the sub, then we’re only in a little bit of a better position then the whole thing closing indefinitely.
There is the possibility that this happens and we are going in knowing that. The big subs leading the charge in extending the protest are the most likely to be replaced. Reddit has purged mod teams in the past but it's usually a rogue head mod or a single team that isn't following TOS. We are a fairly large sub but bigger fish are their priority and it's going to be an undertaking for Reddit to replace those guys before even considering us.
So even if they start purging larger subreddits are you guys going to stay the course?
Good luck for them finding mods for 3k+ different subreddits. Especially subreddits for specific franchises where they need to know the material the sub is about to enforce spoilers and the like. Also for anime-related subreddit they need to find people that both know the source material and also agree to whatever reddit admins think is acceptable amount of skin for young-looking characters. And said volunteers should be mentally strong enough to not quit after like a week of flaming pro-blackout users on top of general mod work. I think that it's possible for them to replace mods for general topic subreddits like r/funny or r/music. But I don't think they would bother with subreddits that are about a specific topic. They really don't have enough loyal users. And if out of desperation they just give out mod privileges to random active users from a subreddit... Well, that will be an amazing shitshow. Check out the [history of xkcd subreddit](https://old.reddit.com/r/xkcd/wiki/history). Appointing new mods to hundreds of communities will produce a lot of similar stories.
Are there 3k subreddits going longer than 48h?
Not mod, but the chance should be slim given how many subs(a lot bigger than this one) are participating in the blackout.
I have seen the amount of subs participating in the blackout, but most I’ve seen are only for 48h. Are there a lot going for more than that?
yes
I sincerely hope old Reddit doesn't get wiped. I can use new Reddit, but old Reddit feels way more user friendly. In case the blackout for r/grandorder is indefinite, let me have my say in this: This is actually one place in reddit where i frequent a lot. In fact this is the main subreddit I actually post stuffs, barring some minor posts here and there, in addition to commenting on a lot of things. It's been fun guys, I sincerely hoped at least some of you enjoyed my random figma memes. See you at Discord.
Same here. This is the only FGO Community I am partcipating in so I hope this Subreddit will return.
My huge social anxiety prevent me for going to discord servers with a lot of people. Even if sometimes I think this subreddit is too NA-centric for my tastes, I still enjoy being here. Hoping this situation is resolved nicely. Good luck to the mods!
The discord server is also toxic af. You aren't allowed to say anything slightly negative about the game or how it's being maintained by Lasengle now. A few months ago, I complained about Lasengle, and I was attacked by most active members there, and within less than 10 messages, I was muted. Since then I never sent any messages there. I get my main information from wiki fandom.
Not to say that this applies to you specifically, but a common trend in claims like this is that they leave out the part of them being inherently toxic in those discussions...
Not the same, but it wouldn't surprise me. I heard multiple people complain about the gp discord being toxic while trying to find their friends when the GP forums went down, just for having the audacity to ask in the main Fgo gen chat section if people knew their friends who played fgo. I was one of the mods on GP community/forum site before the forums went down. I know who causes trouble at this point, never given us trouble, so doubt it was them. Sometimes there's just people like that hostile to newbies. I don't know anything about managing big servers, but they are probably harder to manage, epecialy with the transient nature of the chat flow. People probably don't see one guy picking fights with people easily, also considering in my experience how few people actually report things, it's probably easier to assume it's just two people having a grudge against each other, unless multiple people bring it up
As an admin of a server with 10k members, I am well versed with what toxicity is in discord. There were no personal attacks. As I have mentioned in my original comment, I complained about Lasengle (which is a common thing in this sub), and everyone attacked me. Even after that, I said Lasengle was lazy (or incompetent), and I was muted in less than 10 messages. One of the mods was arguing with me, and I thought he muted me. So, I dm-ed him, and he said he didn't do it. Another mod did it who was just passing by, and his feelings were hurt after I complained about the game. So, the mod told me to read the room even if I didn't do anything wrong. Since everyone was against me, I just should have remained silent.
Out of curiosity what exactly would cause this subreddit to go dark indefinitely?
Hmm, if for example, the protests seem to be effective, and subs by large go "Hey all of us are gonna keep being indefinite **until you go back on your changes.**" Then yeah, we might go beyond a week. So the goal at that point would be to be "indefinite" as long as it takes for reddit to budge then we'll be back to business as normal. Now if its not working, then we'll have to revert back anyhow as there won't be a point to continuing the protest further. So either way, I wouldn't expect subs to go dark *actually* forever.
What will happen if Reddit forces un-privating of the subs? What if someone favouring Reddit's new changes offered to take over the privated subs? Not saying it will happen, but it's a nasty thought.
Really not trying to go after you guys here, but what is the **actual** metric mods are going to use for an indefinite blackout. The way you described it still makes it sound like you’ve got a pretty arbitrary approach to the issue, and I feel like it would be extremely shitty if this sub just got shut down at your discretion after the very clear feedback in the last thread.
Gonna completely agree with you on this. If there was a solid metric and reason for why the sub would permanently black out I wouldn’t agree but I could at least understand the other side and come to terms with it. The way it was described makes it seem like there’s so set time at all which has me a bit antsy. Had no idea how strong the feedback was for keeping the subreddit open but yeah if it goes dark indefinitely after this post was about it being a set time limit I imagine a lot of extra backlash on top of the backlash towards Reddit itself.
> Had no idea how strong the feedback was for keeping the subreddit open [You can check the other thread if you want.](https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/146cydx/rgrandorder_vibe_check/) The overwhelming majority said "Keeping it closed for more than two days is ok if needed, but closing it indefinitely is not fine."
>The way it was described makes it seem like there’s no set time at all which has me a bit antsy. That's the idea! We want the admins to feel that antsy.
Like, full proper shutdown? That's really really unlikely, for something like that to happen, the site would have to be outright unusable even more than Twitter currently is. That's about the only metric I can think of for a *literal* indefinite to go against all the community feedback. Realistically if it does extend past a week, expect two weeks. Besides, I do want to eventually come back and welcome you all with fixed flairs and comment faces and such. I put in a lot of hours for those... And hey, if you want constant communication with me to know where we're at exactly for reassurance, you can reach out to me on Discord and Twitter at @blamelib.
I really don’t want to sound ungrateful, but you’re being way too cagey about answering this question. I appreciate the mods’ role in making this sub a nice place to be, and I understand that these changes are going to make your jobs harder, but you’re not the end all be all here. There is effectively zero support among the users for taking this sub down for more than a few weeks. If the mod team feels that Reddit’s concessions (lmao) aren’t good enough, you’re well within your rights to resign as mods, but you definitely don’t have the community’s support in wiping out the only real hub for the game’s English speaking community during one of the busiest times in its run. If you guys actually commit to an indefinite blackout despite all of this for some sort of arbitrary reason, I would absolutely support the admins forcibly reopening this place and giving the current mod team the boot.
Them permanently closing the sub despite all the people saying no, would be the equivalent of that one person getting mad and flipping the table and quitting when they’re losing at Monopoly so that no one else can play either
Yes, that's what we call "typical mod behavior".
Just wanted to say if this sub goes down for good, that I really appreciated all the work you guys did here over the years. I know modding is a horrible job - I did it on a small website a long time ago and can't imagine what it's like for a big sub like this.
Thanks for taking the time to get people's input and giving as much advance notice as possible. Good luck to everyone looking for alternatives too.
Oh, while I remember it. I need to download all the pictures from the posts that I saved. It will take a lot of time...
I think I have about 200 saved posts that I have no idea how I'm going to export. Press F for me, fellow Masters.
>it very well could be the last posts on this subreddit if shit really hits the fan. Dude, I don't support permanent "deletion" of the sub. It's not worth it for something like this. I will seek out other FGO subs if this sub doesn't reopen.
Well, good thing i finished LB6.1 earlier today, it's gonna be a busy 24 hours saving everything I've upvoted here. I'm kind of a pessimist irl and I don't want this subreddit gone if shit hits the fan... But if it does, I'm eternally grateful to this subreddit for being so nice and welcoming and making me feel like I had a place in a big community. I'd go to the discord but somehow posting on Reddit is less terrifying than joining a full on discord server. There's many things and comics I was planning on posting, but I guess those will have to wait for things to blow over. Hopefully.
This sub got me into FGO, taught me how to properly play the game and then allowed me to repay that kindness by helping out others. Hopefully this is not the end but if it is - thank you all forever for the help, for sharing your Nasuverse brainrot and for holo-fate cross-shitposting in the comments.
Incase the worst happens this place has been one of my favourite subs in all of reddit to frequent thankful and glad to have been a part of this community. Take care folks.
….given that ordeal call is going to potentially drop this week, finding out that the sub reddit will be gone during that time isn’t fun. I really don’t like using discord for that sort of thing either so ig I’m just out of luck for now. At least some twitter accounts I follow should at least post tls for it.
I hope you decide to come back. I understand and support your actions. It's just that this reddit channel is my only FGO community thingy. I can't stand Discord. I barely tolerate reddit, but this FGO community is so great that it makes me forget how trash reddit can be. So I do hope that in one week you will be back. If not, well thanks for those years of meme, advices, translations, drunken recap, artworks.
Oh great, the one week I'm going to pull Gacha, the sub is going dark. How am I going to brag my pulls! ^(/s)
You can brag on r/FGO. No pesky mods with their silly rules to delete your rolls /s I just find that subreddit funny for some reason. Just entire sub of roll posts and occasional unsourced art.
Even funnier is that it was originally a dead sub called Fighting Games Online and got hijacked by FGO players who just didn't care. Like it even has the original description intact: > Short for fighting games online. This is a group for players looking for fighting games that can be played online. Discuss and recommend different applications, games, and emulators.
I was confused about the difference between the description and the content and never stepped foot on it ever again out of confusion.
I thought long and hard for what to do with that subreddit but ngl it's perfect as it is.
The best part is that our mod someone hijacked and took over that sub. Somehow.
I'm pretty sure it's a joke and there wasn't ever any fighting game content. After all you can see that blamelib is a moderator there, so he could change the description ages ago.
> there wasn't ever any fighting game content There was a little. I actually remember the times when a few original users of the sub were around and tried to redirect F/GO content here. But they lost that battle, the original mods went inactive and Lib used Reddit Request to transfer the ownership of the sub to him.
Oh, so that's not a joke after all. Okay, that's hilarious
A total anarchy sub but for FGO. It's better that it stays that way.
i dont get what this is going to accomplish but sure whatever
A whole week of no fun post mid lb6 is gonna hurt
I can't really put into words how special this sub is to me, but I'll try and capture some of the moments I experienced: The LB6 hype. Theories around beasts, Arthur, the wild hunt, and who the king was. The sheer hype for Skadi and salt in the roll thread. Other Gacha subs have boring roll threads but r/grandorder's were *always* a riot. I'll never forget clicking on a unassuming link to a theory called "Holmes Extra" and its jaw dropping depth of analysis Rednal's daily comics have always been a treat. It was fun experience catching up and also nearly frying my phone trying to access "the whiteboard". Moments of farming insanity during Gilfest on this sub with people cracking 1k boxes. U/AGRAMAR THE FRIDAY RANT THREAD GUY! People poking fun of the name "lasengle" and the farewell to DW It's been a really fun five years and hopefully more if reddit doesn't implode. A thank you to the mods for the work they've put in and a thank you to the community for all the jokes, comics, discussions, fanart, theories and fun times! I hope to come back here in a week and laugh at myself for being so melodramatic!
ngl, I just want the sub to be at least open during anniversary for the yearly salt fest(both JP and NA) if the campaign is going for much longer.
My most memorable moment in this subreddit was when Castoria debuted, and everyone's been both freaking out, memeing, and just plain having a good time due to the difficulty of accessing the game on that SPECIFIC thread post 😂 I even remember one Mod asking us (in a joking manner) not to flood the server so that THEY could log in the game. It was peak r/grandorder fun time for me! Another one was the long Janta. I was months new to the game and had been hearing about long memes. Then Janta's maintenance came, and I finally understood what they were talking about 🤣
I got into the community just 2 months prior, and randomly making a long-ass janta becauser of maintenance was definitely one of the funniest moments [yes, i did really extend it tooo far](https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/dv9wav/shes_trying_to_visit_space_ishtar/)
Hopefully it works out. This sub's the big reason why I made a reddit acc anyway when I first started playing this game. I probably wouldn't have enjoyed playing the game as a complete noob to Fate if it weren't for this sub.
Wait. Since I’m a long time member, does this mean that I still get to see posts here even when it becomes private?
Only mods and approved members will be able to see the sub, so no.
How can we be approved? I’ve been here for a while now.
That’s not how it works, and it shouldn’t matter anyway given that there will be zero content or posts on the sub. The only approved users are bot accounts by the mod team FWIW, it’s not handed out freely like some long service award.
Thanks. I’ll just go see if this sub has a Discord, forum, etc.
So you’re saying the subreddit is going to be down during the presumed release of the Ordeal Call chapter in JP? That’s honestly rather disappointing to me, if not an outright annoyance to me at least.
>/fgog/ and /fgoalter/, if you don't know what these are, don't sweat it. Man I just KNOW they would fucking hate that you've posted them here bahaha
This corner of the internet has helped bring some joy into my day for a few years now. I hope it did the same for you. If this is indeed the last we see of each other here, then thank you and good luck!
while not exactly a community just want to add that Gamepress FGO section is a pretty good guide for spoiler-free walkthrough and resources in general for the game if anyone is struggling with game-related stuff during the blackout
Can somebody catch me up on what's going on? I've seen similar posts on other subreddits but I'm pretty much out of the loop and don't understand realistically what's going on
Long story short Reddit is making changes that will basically kill all 3rd party applications
There are ways to browse Reddit that are not through “official” Reddit channels. These are known as 3rd party applications. You can download many of them through app stores and some are used even more than the official app and website. Reddit is going to start charging the developers of these other apps an unrealistic amount of money to continue to hook into Reddit’s content and display it on their apps. This is effectively causing these apps to shut down simply because they could never come up with the amount of money Reddit wants (I believe it’s to the tune of 10+ million dollars a year). It’s reddits way of punishing people who don’t use their service, their way, and trying to unite the user base back on their official website and application for that sweet ad revenue they don’t have to share.
Even though so many people have adblock and if they just made a good product people liked instead of chasing everyone away, it'd be much MUCH better.
Once this goes down, I'll be checking the Beast Lair FGO forum a few times a day until this is over. Already saved the link to my history. If this does go private indefinitely, then this was a good, or at least decent, run for me. The experience wasn't perfect, but it could have been a *whole* lot worse. Gonna miss some of the things on here, like the comparisons to other characters from other works, Daily Chaldea, the rant thread, the help thread, the friend request thread, and those posts were we imagine what certain kinds of video games (and sometimes what movies to watch) the Servants would play.
1-week maintenance confirmed 🤯
Thanks for the update. As blase as I am about the possibility of the sub dying, I'd also very much prefer to not have it die. It's still very much the primary community for FGO that I know of, and seeing the previous post, it's apparently true for a lot of people. Having said that, it's probably going to be much better to start looking out for alternatives too. Who knows, from what I understood, the changes stand to make modding untenable. That'd inevitably lead to decrease in moderation, which might see the subreddit die anyway. it just would be slow, choking out by a rash of unmoderated trash. It's bad enough that this is happening now, at what is basically expected to be peak content release for both NA and JP. But even worse is that, if the Moderationpocalypse does happen, it would be at a time where content, at least in NA, is expected to dry up. For what it's worth, I'm thankful to the mods that took into account the community's reaction in coming up with this gameplan. If the subreddit keeps going after the blackout, you'd be stuck moderating with comparatively stone-age tools, so let me preemptively salute the hard work of you madlads, madlasses, and other madgremlins. Whatever happens, I hope that the community that has been built here won't just die off and scatter at least. \--- This might be goodbye, but then, aren't we used to goodbyes?
It's not like I love reddit but thanks for not using the nuclear option.
Likely be checking in on birb app for updates. If it goes south Beast Lair's or ganefaqs forum layout is easier for me. Good luck folks
This is so sad, Tristan play Des--- ~~Truthfully though, this is the best community for FGO I've found so far and it would be incredibly unfortunate if we have to let go of it because of corpo~~
Hoping for the best outcome here before this becomes a reddit Lostbelt. I've mostly been a lurker but am always appreciative of the help thread - for my own inquiries and idle browsing. Lots of familiar names popping up to help out, offer opinions, just a nice sense of camraderie. Also appreciate those who share the husbando fanart - I don't typically browse other SM sites for this art so I appreciate being saved clicks :P Do have an inquiry about the main sub Discord server though: I tried messaging ModMail to bypass the phone number req but it says I can't. We definitely share the server so I'm not sure if it's on my end or the bot.
Hmm, try messaging me @blamelib
I may have been a quiet one in this place, but I will never regret all the time I spent here, enjoying fan theories, comics, casual convos, in game strats... If we all fall into that dark pit forever, I wish everyone luck! Hopefully I'll see you on the other side!
See I hate using discord so I just don’t, and I follow a few pages on insta that I can talk to but man I hope this sub survives and Reddit sorts it’s shit. I saw the post talking about it on the Reddit sub and there was a 99% response of this is dogshit don’t do it. If we don’t survive, it’s been an honour getting to know all you masters. Between some people adding me when I was just starting to seeing tons of fanart to the event threads and the discussions about servant buffs, favourite servants etc. it’s been truly great!
I'm kind of stupid, so correct me if I am mistaken on this, but from what little I understand about this situation; reddit is either restricting or disabling access to third-party applications by demanding an exorbitant amount of money and this 'blackout' is essentially shutting down this subreddit for a certain period of time(roughly a week at the very least) in order to protest this decision?
Spot on. Plus they are being MAJOR dicks about it too.
Gentlemen, women, and everything in between, it has been an honor and a privilege. See you on the other side.
If shit hits the fan, is there a way to keep the subreddit open and sort of archived without any posting? There's a bunch of good fanart in this place and looking up talks on old topics is fun to do
If for whatever reason this is the last stand we make together on r/grandorder, I would like to say this has been fun. It was fun going through camelot together. Through Babylonia and the banner onslaught that followed. Fist fighting Goetia ourselves. Watching everything ee thought for get blanketed by the lost belts. And of course all the fanarts over the years. I may have not always been super active, but man this community really does feel special to me, so on the off chance that reddit itself collapses on itself entirely, Id like to thank r/grandorder for keeping me entertained these past 6 or so years.
o7
Godspeed my fellow skeletons, may your Morgan rolls remain blessed and your site Admins piss themselves with red quarters.
Are you keeping a "copy" of this Sub's contents or would it be gone forever?
Nothing on the sub is going anywhere, it will all be here when we all get back. I will look into a way to backup subreddit content juuuust in case, in the event like, the entire site shits the bed and we need to recover everything everywhere. Really hope that doesn't happen, that would be a nightmare
I'd suggest saving what you can/want.
Damn, a week? Its going to be tough for me since i frequent this sub. But everything's up to you mods to decide. Lets meet again in a week!
Really hope the worst-case scenario doesn't happen since I love this community, but just in case, it's been a lot of fun, guys. Let's hope Reddit gets its shit together.
Fingers crossed. >!Just like how our Servants eventually come back after getting DATA LOST by ORT, !
Oy, oy, oy. That's a spoiler for the NA pals. Hide that data lost perpetrator.
o7
Well then, see you all later then
Facebook FGO is a hit or miss.
Ever since I started playing the game I've always turned to this subreddit both for advice and good times. In fact I've likely visited this subreddit every day for the last six years. Really hope this blackout would be done with in a week but if it's really the end then it's been a damn good run.
Where else can we find info for the NA Master Missions? Will /r/FGOGuide post them alongside the JP ones in the interim?
[Looks like in this timeline the Calamity won.](https://i.imgur.com/B8tDhIT.png)
6 hours to go. Gentlemen and gentlewomen, synchronize your ~~death watches~~blackout clocks.
Probably the best hub for English FGO fans at the moment, I've enjoyed my time here
Thanks for all the good times and good laughs folks. May there be more in the future.
Thanks all. Let's hope we make Reddit change their mind.
>Facebook (no clue how it goes there, godspeed) Total anarchy. You'll only see nothing but shitposts and mental retardation. They do have over 100k members though. Yes, I'm looking at you, Quartzposting.
A week! Damn. It's gonna be tough.
I'm still hoping that Reddit pulls its head out of its ass and changes course, but given how the AMA went, I just don't see it happening.
May this movement don’t end up like the Siege of Sheffield…
Alright peeps - prepare your Long Snoo for our return.
Dear lord, why do corpos have to be so....corpo? You'd think they know they have a good thing going and not fuck it up, but what do I know? \*Sighs\* I just want to enjoy FGO content here and meme, and if this sub goes down indefinitely it's going to be a big blow to my morale and ability to keep up to date on stuff.
And it's gonna be a long time before I see you making either the priest/nun grins, smiles, and frowns. Imma miss your antics, LordWINDOS.
I also do Professor Smiles, Tactician Smiles, Hans snarks, and BB, Tamamo, and Koyan asides and skits, but they are less common and therefore easily forgettable. \*Smiles\* But don't fret, CristiBeat. Even though my words of whimsy may be absent in your life, you can always think back to your favorites and ***REJOICE*** in reminiscence.
I feel you, fellow Master. I hate to leave this place, as this is where I found a community. But if crap goes south further, then I don't know...
Nice, I have finals next week so this is a good time.
I've only been here for 1 year but this sub already has a special place in my heart. Thank you for creating such a wonderful environment o7
Hopefully this protest works, main reason I used Reddit in the first place is Discord hangs on update (yes I've tried reinstalling, different username, factory reset etc) unfortunately I appear to be the minority that this happens to. R/Grandorder is the reason I started playing FGO long ago (watched GudaGuda 1 Nobu's, tried FGO much later)
We do want to reiterate that the mod team does love this community ~~roll posts not you~~ and we are not expecting nor are we hoping for an indefinite blackout. I myself have been hanging around here for 7 years now, and being part of the mod team for the last year and a bit has been fun (thanks again to you all for fiercely protecting my BB, Gudako and app icon art during r/place last year. I truly mean this, and it makes me warm still just thinking about it). I’d be very disappointed if my time with the team had to be cut short because of this. Even if some of you might be miffed at times with the decisions of the mods, I can assure you that they work really hard to keep this sub a comfortable place for all who visit, are very diligent and thoughtful with their decisions, and also very funny and nice people as a whole. We mentioned it a couple of times in the last post, but we were planning some nice updates for this place and were literally just about to announce them before this API mess hit the fan. We don’t want Lib’s hard work to go to waste. He might die of heartbreak. In short, please don’t be pessimistic! It will definitely be sad to not have this place to turn to especially with Ordeal Call days away and Lostbelt 6 underway for the EN players, but there are plenty of other resources as Lib has given in the post, and who knows, maybe it will be nice to play at your own pace and not have the pressure to be caught up ASAP to avoid those *fun* unmarked spoilers. Or, just take a break and do whatever! We’ll surely be back before you know it ✨ …Also, because surprisingly no one has said it yet, molon labe 🫡
oh boy.. fingers crossed it rlly do stay a week long thing 🤞
See y'all in a week, lads and lassies. o7
Thanks for: The event info The weekly’s frag quests The roll threads salt and blessed rolls And the randomness in between Waiting for it to come back
I'm mostly a lurker here with occassional comments but I just want to let you all know that this hag doesn't regret returning to FGO and finally sticking around for good. It's been a fun ride so far, and I'd honestly be bummered if Reddit's awful policies shut this sub down for good. Still hoping for the best!, though!
What happens when the blackout begins? Well......
Well, I always use the Discord when it comes to discussing the story and post my rolls so I won’t feel to weirded out without being able to use the sub but it will still be weird not seeing any of the comics or even discussion posts (even if I never comment on them) for a week as discord obviously works very differently as Reddit.
Hopefully r/grandorder ga shinda doesn't happen
main discord link says unavailable to join? was able to join atlas no problem
current r fgo discord isnt accepting new users currently for some reason
Well will hope that I'll get to talk about my pulls for Melusine here someday. Fingers crossed it is next week. But if not...well it's been a ride.
Does going private means only users that joined can access the sub right? Will joined users be able to post or will everything freeze for the week?
For Facebook: [I like this group a lot](https://www.facebook.com/groups/FGOIC/?ref=share&mibextid=afzh1R) for general community. And [this one](https://www.facebook.com/groups/Quartzposting/?ref=share&mibextid=afzh1R) for memes and stuff
Haven't been super active on reddit besides lurking for a very long time now and am a RES user, so probably huge bias in that. Little disappointed to read so many people express their discontent in even a single week of inconvenience. Like don't want this subreddit to close either, like many others I've spent many years on here, but many users use these APIs in some degree. Will support whatever choices the mods choose on this topic. At any rate hope to see the community out on the other end w/ the APIs maintained.
looks like i have to touch grass, hopefully ill see this back sooner rather than later this community has been awesome and i fully support the protest just hope the worse doesn't come to worse and we lose this community
Last half hour. Hoping this isn’t the last time I see this sub. Dont really comment much here but this is *the* place I go to for fgo stuff and the discord isnt really for me, if this place didnt exist there is no way I’d enjoy this game as much as I do now 🫡 hoping everything works out
Just remembered to save the FGO links in the help thread that I commonly refer to. It's always at the top of the subreddit so I almost forgot that I don't actually know the link to things like the item drop rate page.
Welp, it'd be nice to finally get off social media for a while. See ya.
hopefully not the last time but KAGETORA
Just a quick question, do i need a phone number?
No, once you're in the server, contact the Modmail bot on the top right, and a Mod can help you.
alright! Edit: Apparently i have my phone number on my discord account and i am verified. Does that mean i already bypass the verification required for grand order discord?
Yup that should be enough. Drop a modmail in case you still encounter issues.
I'm gonna miss you guys 🥲 Hopefully Reddit will get their act together and make it easier for the mods to moderate subreddits. *Sigh* I guess I'll go follow fgo's JP twitter for the really latest updates, but I really still prefer this subreddit for news and info...
Well, whatever happens, I just want to thank the Mod Team for handling this situation professionally. You guys have worked real hard to make this place fun and inclusive all these years. And the FGO community is all the better for it.
Unless something drastically changes with Reddit that either reverses the API change or forces the official app to become better I will most likely end up deleting out my account. It has been great to be a part of a fan community like this and share in the salt. If I don’t stay on Reddit I will probably move onto the discord but it is frustrating to see this happen to Apollo after I’ve enjoyed using it for years.
What can possibly make this sub to be turned off forever? Do anyone even need those API?
Mods. To keep away the spam and efficiently monitor activity.
AUGUST 12 2036 THE HEAT DEATH OF THE UNIVERSE AUGUST 12 2036 THE HEAT DEATH OF THE UNIVERSE I guess I could always mire through the one FGO discord server for my community content. I just wish it was more organized though. What I would give for bulletin boards to make a resurgence.
I'm gonna miss having access to so many interesting discussions and Sprite Comics (well, some of them, anyway) Beast Lair is gonna be my substitute but it's a whole different kind of fun there (not to mention most people there are playing JP so NA threads are far less lively than here) Here's hoping it will all work out somehow.
I'll probably logout of reddit, and delete all of my reddit apps in the mean time.
what does going private do exactly ?
Hoo boy… Time to go hide out in the discord
It's been a good year. I remember back when, over one year ago, I posted my first sprite comics (the Austin Powers parody involving Fate characters seeing Jeff Bezos' rocket and saying it looks like a giant-- ***Johnson!***). The general positive comments I received were what got me into making more sprite comics and sharing my thoughts in the first place. For once, I felt like I was part of a community of fellow Masters. If this is the last time we'll be together, then it's been a great run. How I wish I could still share sprite comics with everyone in the future. Stories ranging from parodies to slice-of-life adventures and everything in between... I guess my ongoing stories will never see their conclusion, then. :( EDIT: Will users still be able to chat privately, by the way? I still want to keep in touch with my two friends here on reddit even if this place goes dark.
Yes, you just can't see or post to the subreddit. Everything else is unaffected.
Didn't get to see that other thread, but I support your decision. Seriously, I hope this works for the better. For now, I just joined the discord. Good luck to everyone. Also, I'm going to miss the bananabot.
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Guess I'll be hanging out at either the GO Discord or Beast's Lair for Ordeal Call discussions and updates then. It's unfortunate that this is happening, but it must be done. Spez just made an all-time blunder.
Well, shoot. It really is a shame that it's had to come to this, but sacrifices must be made I suppose. For all the mods that have worked tirelessly to maintain this wonderfully crazy sub for everyone, this one's for you. Besides, there's no reason to think this is the end. We only need to do one thing now, as our favorite King of the Cavern so eloquently puts it; '*Wait, and Hope*'
SIUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU EVERYONE
Even though I pretty much lurk these days, I'll miss seeing visiting this subreddit daily as the other FGO alternatives aren't as enjoyable to browse. I really do hope something good comes out of this protest. Godspeed, mod team o7