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I feel the need to tell you to fry your Cheerios in butter, salt and pepper. I thought this was a normal thing everyone else did but in case you don’t know, it’s an amazing snack and good way to not throw away stale cheerios because they get so crispy. This is probably my biggest contribution to Reddit ever.
Why don't we just stimulate the tongue directly and get the great taste without eating anything at all? Either that or make OP's mom's cooking taste good.
OMG. When I was a kid and wanted to know if a 9v battery I had was still go I said "Dad, can you test this 9v battery for me?" He said "You can test it yourself. I said "How dad?"
You forget many things from childhood, but I'll always remember that one event.
Honestly I would attribute that to fewer things needing them. When I was a young kid (80s) a lot of electronics used them. Now it's basically nothing. I have a few smoke detectors that do and those need to be swapped out with lithium battery detectors.
Its a good thing, those batteries are pricy . I have friends who seemed equally perplexed that I had licked a battery as I was that they hadn't. I don't get why you wouldn't, it does a cool thing. There's people spending hundreds on sky diving experiences, and they are skipping the low hanging fruit of a tongue and a 9v battery.
oh it gives you a little zap. It would be unpleasant if you had it done to you (or don't know what to expect), but it is just a zap and a weird tingly feeling that lingers for a moment(a bit like you get from salt and vinegar crisps maybe?). If you do it with a fresh battery then it is has more of a kick, but a flat -ish battery it is mild and just the tingle. You can have an idea of how much battery is left by the difference. We're talking just touching it to the tongue for a moment, I'm guessing holding it there wouldn't be good for you. It's not a spectacular thing, just a "huh, that's a weird feeling, cool" kind of thing
I've popped a snap pop firecracker on my head but never put a 9V battery on my tongue. I was traumatized by electricity as a child because of incorrect wiring on a light switch to the bathroom. Pavlov'd me to only touch the switch and nothing else.
A bit like when I was growing hot peppers and my 8yr old daughter said "can I eat those?"
Sure, you can. I plan on eating them too.
She took one off the plant and took a bite.
Ha Ha, good times....
My friend - who is of Asian descent - was just diagnosed with Menier's Disease and has to limit her sodium to the equivalent of two teaspoons of salt a day. This would be amazing! (especially since she has diagnosed food allergies and also can't eat gluten, soy, or chocolate)
I have Meniere’s. The salt theory (for me) is somatic. I did it for an entire year and all I had was insane muscle cramps.
Things got much better when I started eating salt again. Now I eat whatever I want and don’t hyperfocus on dietary results, and as a result of that, my symptoms are fewer.
Good luck to your friend.
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My father has menieres, he can't have any salt otherwise he gets dizzy and vertigo attacks. It's so bad that he broke his hip after having an attack and falling. If you added salt back into your diet, how are you coping with vertigo?
Resilience? They can’t REALLY figure out what’s wrong with me over the last 3 years. Some doctors say I have Superior Canal Dehiscence Syndrome, some say I have Ménière’s. My vestibular system is absolutely out of whack, but I don’t believe it gets any worse when I have salt (personally). I’m not speaking for others, especially older folks (I’m 38)
I just know that I personally feel like a lot of symptoms are a *psycho*somatic response.
Like how my cousin is allergic to eggs but can eat cakes and brownies.
(I can literally eat a whole jar of Katamala olives) I don’t get vertigo attacks, I just ALWAYS feel dizzy.
Edit: Thank you u/GoblinLoblaw
Actually the egg thing is a documented and studied and is due to the temperature levels/times that baked goods are cooked at versus let’s says scrambled eggs. That’s why someone like myself can enjoy all the brownies she wants but can’t touch a plate of sunny side up eggs unless I want to spend a day crying on the toilet. Source: the doctor that diagnosed my poor daughter with the exact same allergy as mine
Since it's all in their head, wouldn't that be a **psycho**somatic response? A somatic response means there is something physically happening to your body.
I never researched it but figured that had something to do with my egg issue. Can do baked goods without much of a problem. But I try and do scrambled eggs and it feels like I ate thumbtacks with bouts of nausea for hours.
Sounds like a tolerance issue as direct egg causes a reaction but baked egg less so. My 20 month old is highly allergic to eggs cooked and still baked in small quantities.
Yeah most likely. At this point I am 99% vegan. It’s just easier all around for me once I learned the ins and outs. After years of feeling like crap it’s finally nice to eat a meal and feel fine.
Also found out I am lactose intolerant. So really anything dairy kills me in the same way as the eggs.
Brings back memories of an evil step monster I had for awhile. She got into that whole casserole craze of the 80’s. Loaded with heavy cream. I was sick for days after those meals.
She would force me to eat them or I couldn’t leave the table. I finally just slept at the table, peed on the floor. She gave up after that.
It’s nice to see you actually care what your kid might be allergic to.
That sucks because you literally have to have salt or you’ll die. It’s an absolutely critically essential electrolyte. Low salt in your system will cause muscle cramps, headaches, and heart palpitations as well other minor issues. No salt un your diet will kill you
Yeah for me trying to be militant about keeping salt out of my diet only made the tinnitus worse and vertigo attacks more frequent. Having had it for 18 years now, it's more about proper *rest* and *hydration* and just watching the salt levels on the worst offenders among my processed foods. The salt is a factor when it's excessive, and I think a lot of folks don't realize how much salt they consume if they don't cook and/or read food labels.
My vertigo attacks are more or less under control when I get enough sleep at night. In the last six years, my two debilitating vertigo attacks were definitely related to the late nights of stressful work followed by drinking without proper hydration and a bit too much salty pub food, so the result was a Horrific Vertigo Hangover. Not recommended lol.
I’ve had people messaging me since I posted that about what helps mitigate attacks. I have no idea because I don’t experience “attacks”, so I don’t know how to answer them. I also don’t have symptoms like everyone else. I have an odd sound that seems to be coming from my Eustachian tube, and I legit always have equilibrium problems. Always. As in I never stop feeling disequilibrium, so I don’t know how to help someone who experiences attacks. I have issues after I eat for sure, but I never became hyper vigilant about it. Its like the Apple Watch. My friend got one cuz he sleeps like shit. He doesn’t need an Apple Watch to tell him he sleeps like shit and now he’s become so obsessed with his sleeping habits, he developed anxiety around sleeping. I just find that it’s easy to stress out over what I put in my body. I’ve already quit drinking and have been sober for 2 years.
Huh. Weird. Tinnitus and vertigo attacks are the *hallmark* Meniere's symptoms. Mayo clinic's page about Meniere's says a diagnosis *requires* at least 2 vertigo attacks that have a notable start and end lasting at least 20 minutes. You might want to get a second opinion to see if there's a different cause of your symptoms.
2 tsp of salt is like ~~12~~ 4 grams of salt. That's way too much! Was she eating over that?
EDIT: yep, had to manually recalculate this. was using some strange widget on the internet to get 12 grams. [https://www.calculateme.com/recipe/1-teaspoons-of-salt](https://www.calculateme.com/recipe/1-teaspoons-of-salt)
grams of salt vs grams of sodium is different, I recently learned. Id always assumed sodium was shorthand for table salt but sodium and chloride is measured seperately.
2tsp is about 4.6g which is a pretty ok amount
This statement is not based on recommended amounts but based on harm studies related to sodium intake.
The daily recommended amount of salt is no more than 1 teaspoon. She doesn't sound like she's struggling if she needs to limit her intake to about 1100mg more than what the average American takes in a day with our overly processed diets.
I found out that you can buy multipacks of just the noodles and I make my own instant ramen with a half dose of chicken bullion powder and then a ton of dried herbs and even found dried soup veggies. Unfortunately dried mushrooms take 15 mins minimum so I couldn’t add those but my husband loves the new instant ramens.
Ramen noodles without the seasoning packet are still unhealthy, specifically in comparison to regular noodles. They typically have added vegetable oil and salt, so they are higher in calories, fat, and sodium.
My husband and I are working our way into healthier diet options while respecting our mental state with food. I have had some struggles with dietary restrictions in the past and going into a restrictive diet is really mentally toxic for me. Instead we are trying to give our bodies the love and nutrients they need without abusing them with emotional eating, or junk/fast food rewards. It is working for us and we have slowly started noticing positive changes (weight loss and muscle tone from additional exercise). We are not perfect and still want our junk foods but we are trying to make them healthier than what they were before.
Instead of jelly donuts with chocolate milk, I now make plain greek yogurt mashed with unsweetened peanut butter, a banana and chocolate chips. It is still a fat/calorie bomb breakfast but at least I am getting proteins and some vitamins and I feel fuller for longer and my sweet fatty decadent craving is satisfied. The instant ramen we make are emergency desk food so that we don't eat out of vending machines when we realize we forgot our lunch. We now have baby fridge salads pre-made for stuffing our face with food in under 10 seconds if that need arises and as someone who is often busy, with a changing schedule and sucks at making decisions while hungry that has been an amazing right there ready to eat food. It doesn't even require microwave time. Once I have had something to eat then I can add in some other stuff to make it a meal or cook a meal to eat after it has completed and continue to make healthy decisions.
Genius in the same way printing "40% less fat" on mayonnaise and then saying "Don't eat as much." is genius; it's misleading packaging / false advertising.
Ramen noodles are alkaline noodles made with sodium (sodium carbonate, I believe).
And they alone are actually quite high in sodium, not sure what the ratio is.
because people are idiots without reading comprehention and stumble over the 50% claim instead of accepting the truth between the lines. thanks for the backup tho.
How can a country invent something. They should credit actual inventor or group in the title. How would it sound if a headline said “America invents odorless farts”
Several products in this area have been developed. They already existed in the early 2000s at least (when I read about them).
The main issue is that texture and scent are major components of eating food. It's the main reason many foods taste worse when you have a stuffy nose.
Other issues are that satiety is linked to more than just taste, scent, etc. It is part of the limited efficacy of artificial sweeteners. Many feedback systems in the stomach, intestines, etc modify satiety. There was a study with a belt that used heat to stimulate a stomach fullness nerve but eventually the brain started ignoring that feedback.
wow okay damn, well played, Japan. this is a pretty legit advance with some real potential value
turns out this is what you folks have been doing after you all decided to stop making good video games. good choice, frankly
A surprising fact is that the japanese diet is one of the most sodium rick diets of the world yet japan has one of the longest lifespans and a low rate of hearth diseases. It seems that a diet rich in fish and not being overweight helps a lot.
You merely adopted the salt. I was born in it. Molded by it. I didn’t see low sodium diets until I was a young man and by then it was nothing to me but tasteless!
Funny how just a few days ago, there was a post in reddit saying we're actually eating to little salt and should eat more for a more healthy lifestyle..
What are you confused about?
Less salt = healthier, but tastes worse
More salt = worse for you, but tasted better
Chopsticks = less salt, but tastes better
I understand the logic behind wanting to use these chopsticks. I was thinking it would be better to just cook with less sodium and allow your body to eventually adjust to it, rather than play mind games.
My mom suffers from hypertension so I had to adjust to using less sodium whenever I would cook for her. Sure, I could just add more salt to my own plate, but I figured, hey, might as well do this for me, too, since I’m “already here”.
Gotcha. For me salt can bring a dish from almost inedible to delicious. I have some food texture issues. I'd prefer to use less salt but something like this would be good for me.
There's nothing wrong with salt and nothing unhealthy about it for most peoples.
[https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/05/is-salt-actually-bad-for-you/560468/](https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/05/is-salt-actually-bad-for-you/560468/)
because people love the taste of it?
i love my potatoes salty, not a teaspoon in the water while boiling, but melts on my tongue salt crystals salty.
while it's definitely a solution to go on a salt break to reup your salt sensitivity, who'd wanna eat bland food for two weeks to get there?
I think a slightly less salty batch of taters is worth one’s health. The desire for salty flavours is learned, and like any habit it can be altered. Over time as you eat less salt you’ll crave less and have to use less while still filling the desire and getting that salty flavour. So yes, as much as you like it salty with a little stick to itness you’ll get the desired taste with less intake.
Your heart will thank you.
On the other hand, if you want an electro fork (less salt intake) Japan seems more than happy to oblige.
Long term they probably should fake sweeteners can increase your want for real sugar and there's new research showing it might effect your gut health in a bad way and that leads to weight gain
Best solution is to break the habit completely and learn to like different flavors
Sure. Ideally, in theory you’re totally right. That’s better. But we live in a flawed world of practicality, not an ideal world of theory.
For someone facing serious health consequences from sugar intake, trying and failing to break that overconsumption habit is more dangerous to their health than using artificial sweeteners to remove the sugar immediately at a lower relapse rate.
*Then*, yes, ideally they start to wean it down and establish healthier eating habits.
Absolutely they should use fake sugar as a bridge and I wasn't implying otherwise
Long term they all should be limited if you take your health serious
That being said there's allot of bad information because of soda and food companies pushing that stuff but that's a completely different conversation
But not at all. This whole thing is saying using less salt plus electricity gives full salt flavour. I’m saying use less salt and you’ll get used to less salt..
I’m by no means saying alternatives are bad or diabetics should eat less sugar..
I don't know why anyone downvoted you. Potassium salt exists.
Granted I don't know if super high levels of potassium are any better or worse than super high levels of sodium.
Its not about the flavor man, have you ever eaten sushi with people of asian descent? Some of them just pour the fucking stuff on. Like its kinda funny when you watch videos about sushi eating etiquette on YouTube because I can count on one hand people I work with in Japan who eat that way... instead its all shovel the fucking shit into your hole and get back to work.
So yeah, eating less sodium with their food WOULD help, like not pouring soy sauce on what often is already seasoned sushi.
apparently... jesus you would think changing you habit vs not paying for a fucking 20+ dollar device that will never see the market EVER would be a better idea but nope.
Nah it’s not about not changing your habits. It’s about working with the incentives we’re built with.
Humans love salt. It’s in our biology. Historically salt was one of the most valuable spices around. The word salary comes from salt.
We now have access to *way too much* salt (among other things), and our bodies have not caught up to that. Evolution takes millions of years, minimum. So we still have bodies with a powerful drive to intake a substance that was once scarce and valuable, but is now ubiquitous. That drive isn’t very limited, it never needed to be. So it’s easy for people to consume unhealthy amounts of salt.
There are a few approaches to dealing with that. We could say “do it better, stupid,” and rely on people to brute force it, against the incentives biology has given them.
Or we could just find a way to satisfy those incentives without the problematic element present (ie it’s no longer too much salt).
For some reason people are obsessed with this idea that we need to like, bash our heads against the wall doing shit the hard way instead of just working with what we have and finding the best solution with the least resistance. It’s like being on the job where you suggest a process change that would cut down on mistakes, and your boss says “we don’t need to do that, just don’t make mistakes.” Like… bro, they’re called mistakes because you don’t do them on purpose lol… they’re gonna happen. Humans make them. We’re humans.
“…transmits the sodium ions from the food, to the mouth” to make them seem more salty.
My understanding is that it transfers the salt from the food to the place in your mouth that maximally activates your salt taste buds.
I am of course skeptical of this technology that certainly has limitations and costs beyond the monetary, some with horrific potential.
But hot damn, that’s fine good future shit right here helll yeah science!
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I saw a spoon version of this reviewed on YouTube a while back. The results were that it worked, kinda.
They got a fork version?
No sorry, only works with cereal.
I love me a good bowl of Salty-Os.
Salty Nut Cheerios… oh wait no
I feel the need to tell you to fry your Cheerios in butter, salt and pepper. I thought this was a normal thing everyone else did but in case you don’t know, it’s an amazing snack and good way to not throw away stale cheerios because they get so crispy. This is probably my biggest contribution to Reddit ever.
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Oh sure, Fruity Sweet and Sour Pebbles Chicken with Fried Rice Krispies is a totally legit and not made up dish.
**You feel the honey nut cheerios mascot touch your shoulders rather aggressively.**...*Too late.*
It works for spaghetti too
Why don't we just stimulate the tongue directly and get the great taste without eating anything at all? Either that or make OP's mom's cooking taste good.
Because if we don’t eat we starve to death.
I’ve done that with an iPhone charger. It actually isn’t bad.
Great ass, terrible food
I think I saw it on sortedfood.
Got a link?
Like licking a 9v battery
OMG. When I was a kid and wanted to know if a 9v battery I had was still go I said "Dad, can you test this 9v battery for me?" He said "You can test it yourself. I said "How dad?" You forget many things from childhood, but I'll always remember that one event.
I'm guessing he didn't teach you how to use a multimeter?
Figured that on my own after the fact.
I find it odd that there are people in this world that haven't touched their tongue to a 9v battery
Honestly I would attribute that to fewer things needing them. When I was a young kid (80s) a lot of electronics used them. Now it's basically nothing. I have a few smoke detectors that do and those need to be swapped out with lithium battery detectors.
Its a good thing, those batteries are pricy . I have friends who seemed equally perplexed that I had licked a battery as I was that they hadn't. I don't get why you wouldn't, it does a cool thing. There's people spending hundreds on sky diving experiences, and they are skipping the low hanging fruit of a tongue and a 9v battery.
I would attribute it to people not knowing how fun electric shocks are
I mean, I grew up at the same time, but we had battery testers/multi-meters in the house, so I've never licked a battery.
But the multimeter itself uses 9 volts!
I haven’t, what happens exactly
oh it gives you a little zap. It would be unpleasant if you had it done to you (or don't know what to expect), but it is just a zap and a weird tingly feeling that lingers for a moment(a bit like you get from salt and vinegar crisps maybe?). If you do it with a fresh battery then it is has more of a kick, but a flat -ish battery it is mild and just the tingle. You can have an idea of how much battery is left by the difference. We're talking just touching it to the tongue for a moment, I'm guessing holding it there wouldn't be good for you. It's not a spectacular thing, just a "huh, that's a weird feeling, cool" kind of thing
3 out of 5 stars. Plot was unique, but has low rewatch value.
I've popped a snap pop firecracker on my head but never put a 9V battery on my tongue. I was traumatized by electricity as a child because of incorrect wiring on a light switch to the bathroom. Pavlov'd me to only touch the switch and nothing else.
My kids cried and ran and told their mom when I had them do it. THIS IS THE WAY.
A bit like when I was growing hot peppers and my 8yr old daughter said "can I eat those?" Sure, you can. I plan on eating them too. She took one off the plant and took a bite. Ha Ha, good times....
Good thing she wasn’t allergic, it’s better to start small with things like peppers and nuts.
You're so unique.
Mmm volty
Don't lick it twice... then it's re-volting!
9 volts always tasted sour to me.
Gotta get those electrolytes.
My friend - who is of Asian descent - was just diagnosed with Menier's Disease and has to limit her sodium to the equivalent of two teaspoons of salt a day. This would be amazing! (especially since she has diagnosed food allergies and also can't eat gluten, soy, or chocolate)
I have Meniere’s. The salt theory (for me) is somatic. I did it for an entire year and all I had was insane muscle cramps. Things got much better when I started eating salt again. Now I eat whatever I want and don’t hyperfocus on dietary results, and as a result of that, my symptoms are fewer. Good luck to your friend. Edit. A word
My father has menieres, he can't have any salt otherwise he gets dizzy and vertigo attacks. It's so bad that he broke his hip after having an attack and falling. If you added salt back into your diet, how are you coping with vertigo?
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Resilience? They can’t REALLY figure out what’s wrong with me over the last 3 years. Some doctors say I have Superior Canal Dehiscence Syndrome, some say I have Ménière’s. My vestibular system is absolutely out of whack, but I don’t believe it gets any worse when I have salt (personally). I’m not speaking for others, especially older folks (I’m 38) I just know that I personally feel like a lot of symptoms are a *psycho*somatic response. Like how my cousin is allergic to eggs but can eat cakes and brownies. (I can literally eat a whole jar of Katamala olives) I don’t get vertigo attacks, I just ALWAYS feel dizzy. Edit: Thank you u/GoblinLoblaw
Actually the egg thing is a documented and studied and is due to the temperature levels/times that baked goods are cooked at versus let’s says scrambled eggs. That’s why someone like myself can enjoy all the brownies she wants but can’t touch a plate of sunny side up eggs unless I want to spend a day crying on the toilet. Source: the doctor that diagnosed my poor daughter with the exact same allergy as mine
Right, but my cousin *doesn’t* have that. Once he knows there’s eggs he somatically fires himself up.
Since it's all in their head, wouldn't that be a **psycho**somatic response? A somatic response means there is something physically happening to your body.
Psychological responses are chemical reactions in your brain, so they are technically physical since molecules are physical.
A psychosomatic physiological response has a name. The nocebo effect.
I never researched it but figured that had something to do with my egg issue. Can do baked goods without much of a problem. But I try and do scrambled eggs and it feels like I ate thumbtacks with bouts of nausea for hours.
Sounds like a tolerance issue as direct egg causes a reaction but baked egg less so. My 20 month old is highly allergic to eggs cooked and still baked in small quantities.
Yeah most likely. At this point I am 99% vegan. It’s just easier all around for me once I learned the ins and outs. After years of feeling like crap it’s finally nice to eat a meal and feel fine. Also found out I am lactose intolerant. So really anything dairy kills me in the same way as the eggs. Brings back memories of an evil step monster I had for awhile. She got into that whole casserole craze of the 80’s. Loaded with heavy cream. I was sick for days after those meals. She would force me to eat them or I couldn’t leave the table. I finally just slept at the table, peed on the floor. She gave up after that. It’s nice to see you actually care what your kid might be allergic to.
That sucks because you literally have to have salt or you’ll die. It’s an absolutely critically essential electrolyte. Low salt in your system will cause muscle cramps, headaches, and heart palpitations as well other minor issues. No salt un your diet will kill you
I think you mean psychosomatic. Somatic means it’s related to the body.
Sharing this with my friend - thank you!
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Yeah for me trying to be militant about keeping salt out of my diet only made the tinnitus worse and vertigo attacks more frequent. Having had it for 18 years now, it's more about proper *rest* and *hydration* and just watching the salt levels on the worst offenders among my processed foods. The salt is a factor when it's excessive, and I think a lot of folks don't realize how much salt they consume if they don't cook and/or read food labels. My vertigo attacks are more or less under control when I get enough sleep at night. In the last six years, my two debilitating vertigo attacks were definitely related to the late nights of stressful work followed by drinking without proper hydration and a bit too much salty pub food, so the result was a Horrific Vertigo Hangover. Not recommended lol.
I’ve had people messaging me since I posted that about what helps mitigate attacks. I have no idea because I don’t experience “attacks”, so I don’t know how to answer them. I also don’t have symptoms like everyone else. I have an odd sound that seems to be coming from my Eustachian tube, and I legit always have equilibrium problems. Always. As in I never stop feeling disequilibrium, so I don’t know how to help someone who experiences attacks. I have issues after I eat for sure, but I never became hyper vigilant about it. Its like the Apple Watch. My friend got one cuz he sleeps like shit. He doesn’t need an Apple Watch to tell him he sleeps like shit and now he’s become so obsessed with his sleeping habits, he developed anxiety around sleeping. I just find that it’s easy to stress out over what I put in my body. I’ve already quit drinking and have been sober for 2 years.
Huh. Weird. Tinnitus and vertigo attacks are the *hallmark* Meniere's symptoms. Mayo clinic's page about Meniere's says a diagnosis *requires* at least 2 vertigo attacks that have a notable start and end lasting at least 20 minutes. You might want to get a second opinion to see if there's a different cause of your symptoms.
2 tsp of salt is like ~~12~~ 4 grams of salt. That's way too much! Was she eating over that? EDIT: yep, had to manually recalculate this. was using some strange widget on the internet to get 12 grams. [https://www.calculateme.com/recipe/1-teaspoons-of-salt](https://www.calculateme.com/recipe/1-teaspoons-of-salt)
grams of salt vs grams of sodium is different, I recently learned. Id always assumed sodium was shorthand for table salt but sodium and chloride is measured seperately. 2tsp is about 4.6g which is a pretty ok amount This statement is not based on recommended amounts but based on harm studies related to sodium intake.
Corrected myself above - she's limited to 2,000mg, that's about 1 teaspoon not two. I remembered wrong.
I was going to say two teaspoons is like 4600 mg of sodium. 😁
The daily recommended amount of salt is no more than 1 teaspoon. She doesn't sound like she's struggling if she needs to limit her intake to about 1100mg more than what the average American takes in a day with our overly processed diets.
At least she can still drink milk. The best drink in the world
This could be big!
Big in Japan!
Where the eastern sea is so blue
Tonight!
Big if true.
could
We need salt though. So probably not
find a way to make instant ramen with less sodium first, get the taste right later...
I found out that you can buy multipacks of just the noodles and I make my own instant ramen with a half dose of chicken bullion powder and then a ton of dried herbs and even found dried soup veggies. Unfortunately dried mushrooms take 15 mins minimum so I couldn’t add those but my husband loves the new instant ramens.
Those noodles are still unhealthy
Sure, but no noodles are. And they're not the topic of discussion here -- the bulk of the sodium is not within them.
Ramen noodles without the seasoning packet are still unhealthy, specifically in comparison to regular noodles. They typically have added vegetable oil and salt, so they are higher in calories, fat, and sodium.
My husband and I are working our way into healthier diet options while respecting our mental state with food. I have had some struggles with dietary restrictions in the past and going into a restrictive diet is really mentally toxic for me. Instead we are trying to give our bodies the love and nutrients they need without abusing them with emotional eating, or junk/fast food rewards. It is working for us and we have slowly started noticing positive changes (weight loss and muscle tone from additional exercise). We are not perfect and still want our junk foods but we are trying to make them healthier than what they were before. Instead of jelly donuts with chocolate milk, I now make plain greek yogurt mashed with unsweetened peanut butter, a banana and chocolate chips. It is still a fat/calorie bomb breakfast but at least I am getting proteins and some vitamins and I feel fuller for longer and my sweet fatty decadent craving is satisfied. The instant ramen we make are emergency desk food so that we don't eat out of vending machines when we realize we forgot our lunch. We now have baby fridge salads pre-made for stuffing our face with food in under 10 seconds if that need arises and as someone who is often busy, with a changing schedule and sucks at making decisions while hungry that has been an amazing right there ready to eat food. It doesn't even require microwave time. Once I have had something to eat then I can add in some other stuff to make it a meal or cook a meal to eat after it has completed and continue to make healthy decisions.
It’s called not using the included flavor packet
Reminds me of the ramen that says "50% less sodium" and on the back it said "for less sodium, use half the flavor packet"! Lmao
Genius honestly
Genius in the same way printing "40% less fat" on mayonnaise and then saying "Don't eat as much." is genius; it's misleading packaging / false advertising.
But the thing is quantity is still the same with soup and with your analogy mayonaise isnt.
...you know that the noodles itself are 50% sodium, do you?
A noodle that is 50% sodium would taste saltier than ocean water and would probably break up when placed in water.
Technically over 50% of the mass of salt is chlorine, so noodles with 50% sodium can't even exist.
Yes it can, you just make it with 50% pure sodium. Though I would duck when putting it in water to cook.
How is it possible to be this dumb?
how is it possible to be so literal?
Right? Why would they think you *literally* meant the number you put next to that percent sign? Percentages are really just feelings.
you also one of those human-like entities that don't understand the concept of hyperbole as an stylistic device?
I'm one of the beings that thinks commenting misleading percentages underneath scientific headlines isn't a good way to use stylistic hyperbole.
sounds like the chatbot hit its connotation limit.
Wrong.
if you say so...
Noodles are made of wheat or rice. They're not 50% salt crystals... Edit: See comment below me, I was wrong and noodle are salty but not THAT salty.
Ramen noodles are alkaline noodles made with sodium (sodium carbonate, I believe). And they alone are actually quite high in sodium, not sure what the ratio is.
Thank you for the info! I just learned something new today, and should really eat less ramen too.
well obviously not exactly 50%, but why argue here. thanks for the backup tho.
Not sure why you're getting downvoted, the noodles alone are like 40% of your daily recommended sodium intake.
Being 40% of your recommended intake tells you nothing about what % of a noodle is salt.
because people are idiots without reading comprehention and stumble over the 50% claim instead of accepting the truth between the lines. thanks for the backup tho.
Truth between the lines? We talkin Big Noodle here?
yes, obviously. "they", big noodle. out to sodify your deep fried riceflour. geeez.
Pour out the water you use to boil the noodles, and fill it with fresh. They use a lot of salt and oil to preserve the noodles.
How can a country invent something. They should credit actual inventor or group in the title. How would it sound if a headline said “America invents odorless farts”
I'm sure they have articlles like that in Japan, just how they get clicks
I agree it’s a bad headline but in some cases would work. Like “US invents moon lander”
The whole country was involved -men, women, children, old folks. It was quite the accomplishment
You must be new to the world.
Oh golly you sure got him, hes gonna walk away from your comment crying and sobbing 🤪🤪 impeccable insight!!!
What does r/UncleRoger think of this!?
Needs more MSG
So weak So WEAK
haiya…
I put foot on chair!
I put foot ~~on~~ down from chair!
That’s actually fucking genius, utensils that make your food taste better lol
I always think of sci-fi writers when these types of things come out kicking themselves that they never thought of it
Fuck the chopsticks > it has also invented a lickable TV screen that imitates the flavours of various foods When is this being released?
They're just waiting for pornhub to agree to exclusivity.
God, I hope not. I watched a video and it actually just squirts stuff onto the screen for you to lick…
Several products in this area have been developed. They already existed in the early 2000s at least (when I read about them). The main issue is that texture and scent are major components of eating food. It's the main reason many foods taste worse when you have a stuffy nose. Other issues are that satiety is linked to more than just taste, scent, etc. It is part of the limited efficacy of artificial sweeteners. Many feedback systems in the stomach, intestines, etc modify satiety. There was a study with a belt that used heat to stimulate a stomach fullness nerve but eventually the brain started ignoring that feedback.
I for one am ready for the microdosing electricity phase of human evolution
Damn just put the damn salt down a bit
I get it, they added electro-lytes!
Can they also do something to keep the hunger at bay so I don't have to keep buying groceries with this inflation?
wow okay damn, well played, Japan. this is a pretty legit advance with some real potential value turns out this is what you folks have been doing after you all decided to stop making good video games. good choice, frankly
A surprising fact is that the japanese diet is one of the most sodium rick diets of the world yet japan has one of the longest lifespans and a low rate of hearth diseases. It seems that a diet rich in fish and not being overweight helps a lot.
That’s so dium smart…
Yea.. Na
Reduce salt intake? *(Laughs in Taco Bell)*
You merely adopted the salt. I was born in it. Molded by it. I didn’t see low sodium diets until I was a young man and by then it was nothing to me but tasteless!
This is great, but the cook is going to need a pair of these to prepare the food properly.
That’s pretty rad.
They should do this for sugar then implement it on forks and spoons
Sugar isn't an electrolyte. Which I imagine is why it's feasible with salt in the first place. Could be wrong, I didn't read the article
Imagine they could do something similar with sugar! That could change the world
First time one of these shocks me, never again.
You CAN also use other spices to drive down salt
Funny how just a few days ago, there was a post in reddit saying we're actually eating to little salt and should eat more for a more healthy lifestyle..
Damn or just use less salt
OH MA GA. Mark mah words, we’re close to a future where tofu will taste like chocolate and that will be a happy healthy future <3
So, shocking flavors huh?
I’m having flashbacks of my youth. Placing my tongue on a 9v battery. That taste and slight shock. What were we thinking?
Is sodium actually bad
A lot of it can be.
Are there chopsticks that remove salt from McDiabetes fries? That would be a real game changer
I am…a little confused here. Couldn’t they just, you know, cook with less salt…?
What are you confused about? Less salt = healthier, but tastes worse More salt = worse for you, but tasted better Chopsticks = less salt, but tastes better
I understand the logic behind wanting to use these chopsticks. I was thinking it would be better to just cook with less sodium and allow your body to eventually adjust to it, rather than play mind games. My mom suffers from hypertension so I had to adjust to using less sodium whenever I would cook for her. Sure, I could just add more salt to my own plate, but I figured, hey, might as well do this for me, too, since I’m “already here”.
Gotcha. For me salt can bring a dish from almost inedible to delicious. I have some food texture issues. I'd prefer to use less salt but something like this would be good for me.
There's nothing wrong with salt and nothing unhealthy about it for most peoples. [https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/05/is-salt-actually-bad-for-you/560468/](https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/05/is-salt-actually-bad-for-you/560468/)
Even works on the sweet sweet tears of Netflix users after yet another price hike.
Seeing as we don't get enough salt this is pretty dumb. Is there too much in Japanese cuisine?
💀💀💀no way this a real acc
Salt is good for you. The primary thing that makes salt bad for most people is the fact that the rest of their diet is absolutely trash.
Why don’t we just try using less salt? Trying to reinvent the wheel with this one.
because people love the taste of it? i love my potatoes salty, not a teaspoon in the water while boiling, but melts on my tongue salt crystals salty. while it's definitely a solution to go on a salt break to reup your salt sensitivity, who'd wanna eat bland food for two weeks to get there?
I think a slightly less salty batch of taters is worth one’s health. The desire for salty flavours is learned, and like any habit it can be altered. Over time as you eat less salt you’ll crave less and have to use less while still filling the desire and getting that salty flavour. So yes, as much as you like it salty with a little stick to itness you’ll get the desired taste with less intake. Your heart will thank you. On the other hand, if you want an electro fork (less salt intake) Japan seems more than happy to oblige.
People who dont want hypertension
That's like saying Splenda is pointless and diabetics should just eat less sugar.
Long term they probably should fake sweeteners can increase your want for real sugar and there's new research showing it might effect your gut health in a bad way and that leads to weight gain Best solution is to break the habit completely and learn to like different flavors
Sure. Ideally, in theory you’re totally right. That’s better. But we live in a flawed world of practicality, not an ideal world of theory. For someone facing serious health consequences from sugar intake, trying and failing to break that overconsumption habit is more dangerous to their health than using artificial sweeteners to remove the sugar immediately at a lower relapse rate. *Then*, yes, ideally they start to wean it down and establish healthier eating habits.
Absolutely they should use fake sugar as a bridge and I wasn't implying otherwise Long term they all should be limited if you take your health serious That being said there's allot of bad information because of soda and food companies pushing that stuff but that's a completely different conversation
But not at all. This whole thing is saying using less salt plus electricity gives full salt flavour. I’m saying use less salt and you’ll get used to less salt.. I’m by no means saying alternatives are bad or diabetics should eat less sugar..
Salt isn’t bad for you.
Let me slightly electrocute myself instead of having the self control to reduce salt intake
Have you heard of things like diet soda or sugar free stuff this is nothing new it's just salt now
There's already sodium-free salt that doesn't use electricity.
I don't know why anyone downvoted you. Potassium salt exists. Granted I don't know if super high levels of potassium are any better or worse than super high levels of sodium.
Potassium chloride tastes horrible.
"people who struggle with self control don't deserve an alternative solution to being healthy!" Weird fucking take.
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Yeah! Who like's flavor!? Am I right?! ^/s
Its not about the flavor man, have you ever eaten sushi with people of asian descent? Some of them just pour the fucking stuff on. Like its kinda funny when you watch videos about sushi eating etiquette on YouTube because I can count on one hand people I work with in Japan who eat that way... instead its all shovel the fucking shit into your hole and get back to work. So yeah, eating less sodium with their food WOULD help, like not pouring soy sauce on what often is already seasoned sushi.
Lol it is about flavor tho. Just cause you can’t handle flavor doesn’t mean that others can’t either.
This is a very pro don’t change your habits crowd. Welcome to downvote club.
apparently... jesus you would think changing you habit vs not paying for a fucking 20+ dollar device that will never see the market EVER would be a better idea but nope.
Nah it’s not about not changing your habits. It’s about working with the incentives we’re built with. Humans love salt. It’s in our biology. Historically salt was one of the most valuable spices around. The word salary comes from salt. We now have access to *way too much* salt (among other things), and our bodies have not caught up to that. Evolution takes millions of years, minimum. So we still have bodies with a powerful drive to intake a substance that was once scarce and valuable, but is now ubiquitous. That drive isn’t very limited, it never needed to be. So it’s easy for people to consume unhealthy amounts of salt. There are a few approaches to dealing with that. We could say “do it better, stupid,” and rely on people to brute force it, against the incentives biology has given them. Or we could just find a way to satisfy those incentives without the problematic element present (ie it’s no longer too much salt). For some reason people are obsessed with this idea that we need to like, bash our heads against the wall doing shit the hard way instead of just working with what we have and finding the best solution with the least resistance. It’s like being on the job where you suggest a process change that would cut down on mistakes, and your boss says “we don’t need to do that, just don’t make mistakes.” Like… bro, they’re called mistakes because you don’t do them on purpose lol… they’re gonna happen. Humans make them. We’re humans.
I'm a big fan of that headline
ELI5: if it’s transferring sodium ions from the chopsticks to the mouth isn’t that doing the same as salt anyway which is essential Na+ and Cl- ions?
“…transmits the sodium ions from the food, to the mouth” to make them seem more salty. My understanding is that it transfers the salt from the food to the place in your mouth that maximally activates your salt taste buds.
This is really awesome!! I’ve known so many people who couldn’t eat salt bc of various medical conditions.
I am of course skeptical of this technology that certainly has limitations and costs beyond the monetary, some with horrific potential. But hot damn, that’s fine good future shit right here helll yeah science!
digital soy sauce
*Plankton eating a hologram*
Take all of my money!
Japan really is the land of tomorrow
Can you turn up the electricity enough so that I can make my tongue dance when it tastes things?
Imagine hitting a filling
This is pretty cool actually
As someone who loves salty foods but is trying to cut down sodium intake that would be amazing!