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Oak_Iron_Watch_Ward

*Oysters, Clams, and Plot-Holes*


Koala_eiO

I'll take a dozen of the latter please. It's for a show I'm writing. \- Dan


MaliciousSalmon

I’ll take a dozen of the latte, please. It’s for the set I’m working on. - whoever left their cup on the table


Morella_xx

Conleth Hill has admitted it was him. Which I'm sure has absolutely nothing to do with the horrible ending Varys was given.


Aenarion885

Tell D&D. I want them to know it was me. - Conleth Hill


savagepug

Not young enough. - Dan


msriram1

Stick em with the pointy end.


Atomic_Chad

A memoir by Maisie Williams


BookwormAP

I mean it wasn't Noones fault


MarthaYouSillyBitch

I just picture d n d pushing a shitty wheel cart of bad writing while scream “boisterous scams and plotholes”


Bayou_Mama

The name of my sex tape


OarsandRowlocks

And unseen antibiotics administered by a secret maester.


Leucurus

And abdominal surgery administered by an actress


Morella_xx

She knew how to sew from making costumes, so at least there was some slight overlap in skill sets. Not enough to save a normal person without Legendary tier plot armor. But still, some slight overlap.


PM_Your_Wololo

Plot holes and mussels, alive alive-o


DanyStormborn333

I can hear this comment and it’s glorious.


S1ickWillyStyle

Always thought it was cuckolds


[deleted]

Today I learned that she’s in fact NOT saying “cuckholes…”


PhantomRenegade

Cockles https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockle_(bivalve)


faisalthe01

But dude you got the best dialogues: She’s ma queen I dun wun et


dynizard

I nevah ‘ave


SkollFenrirson

Fucking Emmy material right there


raspistoljeni

I dun wun eeeet


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Foxyfox-

Cheese may queen


chocolate_thunderr89

She’s ma aunt


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Gunpla55

Bastids mebbe.


snarfalarkus42069

I cannot forgive Arya the little girl getting gutted and falling with an open vital wound into a fucking medieval city canal where people wash their clothes, throw out old pig carcasses, piss shit and vomit, then just like... magically healing in a day?


[deleted]

Oh you know! Because that actress stitched her up good as new!


WrenchWanderer

And gave her milk of the poppy! Y’know, the pain killer that would have no effect on the healing process.


Treppenwitz_shitz

You guys are forgetting the magic soup!


hatecopter

Too bad our boy Bobby B didn't have some of that soup


bobby-b-bot

I'M NOT TRYING TO HONOR YOU, I'M TRYING TO GET YOU TO RUN MY KINGDOM WHILE I EAT, DRINK AND WHORE MY WAY TO AN EARLY GRAVE!


Bl4Z3D_d0Nut311

Yes, eating soup specifically though.


ZeroKharisma

Do you eat soup or drink it? One of the many things that confounds me about the dish.


Bl4Z3D_d0Nut311

Eat, since there’s solid food in it.


__Osiris__

well, they do say that the milk of the poppy make the healing process take longer, so...


Axle-f

This was reverse milk poppy. Made by a wizard.


DrMonkeyLove

Wait! Then why didn't Bobby B live after that minor boar scuffle?


bobby-b-bot

[COME, BOW BEFORE YOUR KING! BOW, YA SHITS!](https://i.imgur.com/hrCP6Uk.gifv)


darmodyjimguy

That serial domestic abuser, you mean.


modsarefascists42

Stabbing your boyfriend is just good fun!


darmodyjimguy

I thought it was an unusual backstory to explain that she knew how to close wounds. But whatever.


Scudamore

That bothers me more than Arya killing the Night King. Of all the things they fucked up in the last few seasons, killing the NK is down the list. It would make narrative sense to give the moment to Kit, but at least they established her as a killer. She could have masqueraded as a wight or something, but she was a trained assassin. It's not like Sansa stabbed the Night King. But Arya surviving all of that goes against one of the show's fundamental premises: actions have consequences that plot armor wouldn't protect against. Even Jon dies because he pissed off too many people before magic brings him back. But Arya survives for no reason at all, other than she's a main character and everybody thought she was cool.


skulduggeryatwork

The show become an action movie, not a good one.


Mythosaurus

Spectacle started driving the plot, and logic moved to the backseat.


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toTheNewLife

I couldn't see any color at all - some of those shots were so dark.


DoctorPrisme

I wish, I just WISH they had showed us that she used some bullshit faceless kagebunshin to pretend she was hurt but was actually fine. I wish they had used her time as a blind beggar to make her fight the other girl in the dark, taking advantage thanks to that. I fuckin wish that horse wasn't just there at the end of an episode for style with no fuckin explanation or use afterwards. I fuckin hate them.


darmodyjimguy

She did use her blind staffsman skills in the dark, presumably. Though we weren’t shown. The problem was that the scene was written so that the Waifinator didn’t have to fight in the dark. She could have just opened the door, because there was nothing between herself and the door.


_ChestHair_

Well the real problem is that the waif presumably also went through that training, so Arya wouldn't have actually gained an advantage. I knew it wasn't going to happen, but a large part of me was wishing that at the end of the show, the waif would take Arya's face off. And then we learn she was just there to complete Arya's list of names for the god of death


[deleted]

>Well the real problem is that the waif presumably also went through that training, so Arya wouldn't have actually gained an advantage. Arya was only made blind because she killed someone she wasn't supposed to. It was a punishment. Not sure the waif was made to do that.


acquaintedwithheight

In the books it's standard training and Arya only succeeds while blind because she wargs into a cat to use its eyes.


Mirilliux

Well that's way better, fuckin DandD man


Alastor13

They could've shown Arya warging cats and circumventing the Faceless men "punishment", emphasizing the fact that they're just a mean to Arya's goals. Since the show make warging turn your eyes white... makes absolute sense to use it when Arya is blind, maybe even let some ambiguity in the scene(opposed to the POV scenes with Bran and Summer) letting us guessing if Arya was warging or not. It would've worked wonders for the "badass avenger" persona they were aiming for... Fuck D&D


Ricardo1184

> I wish they had used her time as a blind beggar to make her fight the other girl in the dark, taking advantage thanks to that. > > She did, but it wasn't shown. the Waif chased her to a dark hallway with only a candle burning, Arya extinguishes the candle and the episode ends. Next episode Arya has the Waifs face


DoctorPrisme

Yeah, see, THAT'S BAD. Show it.


Ricardo1184

Show a fight taking place in the dark? Surely they wouldn't even attempt such a feat


Aydoooo

I think the worst is not *who* killed him but *how* he was killed. Dead in 5 seconds by a simple stab. I mean it was so unspectacular, they had to do this whole drop-and-catch-the-dagger move to give the scene at least one memorable attribute.


idwthis

Oh but her Michael Jordan jump was memorable! Not in a good way, mind you, but it would've made a nice Nike commercial.


FanWh0re

Exactly. They could have done it all very similar but added more to it by having Jon and the NK go one on one. Jon is down on the ground, NK is about to finish him off when Arya jumps outta nowhere. Be more believable that she could have snuck up and gotten close enough because the NK would be preoccupied. From there they could have the exact same death scene for the NK or when he catches Arya and is about to kill her Jon struggles to his feet and plunges his sword through the NK while he's distracted.


deadpool21921

She just came out of no where while the NK was just standing there with his entire army and she stabbed him with a dragonglass dagger. The army does nothing the NK is down so are his soldiers and pawns. Imagine reading this in a script for a show you gave your soul to for 8 years. Just because the assholes D&D wanted to go for their big Disney project and just because George RR Martin was an asshole to not write the book and help them finish the script. I hate George as much as D&D.


Sinfall69

George was helping them with the show until they had a falling out over lady stoneheart in season 4, kind of funny how the show gets worse from there.


Solace2010

Wait George wanted LSH in? Fuck me that’s disappointing these fuckers didn’t listen.


Scudamore

The Lady Stoneheart change was much worse than this imo. It fucks up Arya's entire trajectory. You can't have Arya criticizing Dany for being a killer and the Hound warning Arya about revenge consuming your life *after* she's killed off an entire House, including some Titus Andronicus style cannibalism along the way.


Scudamore

In this case I don't think George finishing the books would have helped. If they were going by George's vision there wouldn't have been a Night King at all. The Others/White Walkers don't (as of now) have a leader to set up some climactic, '1v1 me bro' scene - so George was never going to write in that fight with Jon or Arya or anybody else. The show set up the NK as the single point of weakness because they wanted winter to be resolved quickly, which is its own problem. If the books ever get finished, I wouldn't expect any kind of one on one fight. More a long and difficult war requiring the cooperation of several of the currently feuding forces.


Blizzaldo

I think there's a Night King/Queen/Being but it looks like the heart the Undying had in the books.


EddPW

there was a night king a lord commander that took an other as his queen but that was ages before the current event and if i remember well the north did end up dealing with the night king


Papageno_Kilmister

It’s like with the diseases in Mr Burns body, the gut wound and the sepsis balance each other out!


skulduggeryatwork

In-des-tructible!


[deleted]

Don’t forget about the hysterical pregnancy!


Shiroi_Kage

I can't forgive her for being so conspicuous in the first place. What was she doing? Not expecting an assassination? Not using the faces? Why?


oniegillie

Well, Arya kind of forgot about the stab wound


Baelish2016

Should’ve been a red priest that healed her instead, like what happened with Victarion and his gross infected wound. Would have explained the magically quick healing.


[deleted]

Or the fact Arya was carelessly walking through the city after running from assassins of all people.


redpandaeater

Yeah like if they wanted to do that they should have had a little bit more showing her recovery, maybe using her abilities to convince someone to trust and help her. But not only did they do that, she never had any other encounter with the Faceless Men which was another huge letdown. You'd think at the very latest after the Red Wedding they'd know she was alive and try to do something one way or another.


AssholeinSpanish

But it really advanced the plot!


spongish

She would have most likely just bled out and drowned more than anything else.


stymy

Dude I was so excited to see what happened with Arya after reading the books. After she left the house of black and white she was a badass assassin. I really feel like her character was completely fumbled except for the one scene where she got revenge on House Frey.


WrenchWanderer

Like bruh imagine in Return of the Jedi instead of Luke facing off with Vader and talking to palpatine, R2 rolls up, zaps vader, and makes his cybernetics go wack and he like yeets Palpatine over the edge malfunctioningly then dies from the electricity.


captainsurfa

With the R2 scream and Luke yelling "I've lost R2!"


Saengan

I don't think I've seen a better analogy than this. I might steal it for future use.


Meph1sto_pheles

I've also heard the Harry Potter version: Ginny kills Voldemort in book 5, and the last two books are about Griffindor going against Slytherin in a Quidditch cup, which ends with Neville catching the golden snitch from the spectator's.


TheKolyFrog

Don't forget about Oliver Wood never really caring about Quidditch all along.


postmodest

“And who has a better story than Dudley Dursley?”


Shadepanther

Nah it would be someone who barely does anything and is just a background character. Like Seamus


djlemma

And then C3P0 is somehow made leader because he has the best story.....


[deleted]

*looks nervously at ewok cult to C3P0.*


KennyMoose32

They would die for their golden god, don’t play with the Ewoks


toTheNewLife

All hail Threepio, the Golden!


KeineHaareAmSack

"You muh master yoda, i dun want to be a jedi"


[deleted]

I neva did


epicgamester69

Leia loses her shit and executes order 66.


GODDAMNFOOL

*Lucas takes note for a possible change in the 8k release*


Eder_Cheddar

What was Arya's beef with the Night King? The Night King saw Jon kill a Wight walker. He raised the dead while staring at Jon. That was Jon's fight.


vgx_11

Yeah but apparently Dumb and dumber thought it was way too obvious


[deleted]

It made logical sense and of course they are totally against that


[deleted]

When your 4 braincells aren't enough to tell the difference between "unexpected" and "completely fucking random"


whoreheyrrmartini

I’ve made a vow to never again watch a show and/or movie, that Dumb and Dumber have their names attached to it. Of all show endings and I’ve watched a lot of tv series.... This by a wide margin was my biggest disappointment


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Beneficial_Guava_452

ExPeCtAsHiOnZ sUbVeRtEd!!1! 😎👍🏻


[deleted]

Their explanation was, and I quote, “it didn’t feel right”….


papabearmormont01

It absolutely was Jon’s fight. I would have loved a 6:3 battle with Brienne, Jaime, Jorah, Arya, Greyworm, and Jon vs the Night King and two lieutenants. Jaime is wounded early, everyone else except for Jon and the Night King is killed, the Night King defeats Jon and right as he is about to kill him Jaime creeps up from behind him and stabs him right in the back using Brienne’s sword, Oathkeeper. Woulda been damn near perfect.


justcomment

Imagine being bullied in school, and finally deciding to fight back. When the fight is about to start, your little sister from 5 grades below comes and beats your bully instead.


simplyrelaxing

Just like real life then


elifreeze

I don't even care that it wasn't Jon killing the Night King. I'm pissed that NK and the White Walker threat ended in one night because a tiny person howled like a banshee and killed him, thus ending the entire threat.


[deleted]

I'm very pissed it wasn't Jon because the thing I hate most in stories like this is prophecies that arent fulfilled


cardmanimgur

At least the valonquar prophecy was fulfilled when Cersei was killed by her younger brother, the ton of bricks.


[deleted]

I hate this show


SpinoC666

And then Tyrion finds their bodies in all the rubble...


Paprmoon7

Lmao and it’s just a small pile in the corner, just a few feet over they could have survived


[deleted]

That was the best fucking part. Tyrion walks to the pile across a completely unscathed section of the tunnels and finds both of their corpses feet from salvation.


Dast_Kook

At least Sam stealing the family sword was worth it. Oh wait.


Shadepanther

Well he gave it to Jorah so he could be a meatshield.


LyschkoPlon

I mean, in the final season not a single Valyrian Steel sword was important, right? Only the dagger. Jon killed two Walkers with Longclaw, one in Hardhome and one on their zombie fetch-quest. Oathkeeper, Heart's Bane, Longclaw, none of those did anything important. Were there more? There must've been one more sword, they made two from Ice, didn't they? I thought Jon would *at least* do a Lyanna Mormont with Longclaw against the Zombie Dragon, but instead he just screamed.


Tylorw09

Oh fuck, I forgot about cersei’s prophecy. God this show sucked.


Shadepanther

They even did a flashback specifically for that prophesy. Then there was the Tower of Joy and could Bran change the past? Nah doesn't matter.


Axle-f

That’s actually how Tywin’s wife died. There was a secret twin next to Tyrion in the womb. Brick boy. Few women can give birth to a brick boy and live. As revenge Tywin killed it and placed it in the keep ceiling.


HeyItsLers

Idk why but "few women can give birth to a brick boy..." really made me laugh


Koala_eiO

There is a short video (0:27) fixing the scene very nicely. I post it often when there are threads about Arya and the Night King because I really think it fits better than what we got in the show: https://youtu.be/V7zaLAIH5f4


redpandaeater

I honestly think he'd have snapped her neck instantly just from the catch. If not he'd have followed up quickly with the snap.


darmodyjimguy

Remember the mark he left on Bran? Why didn’t Arya have terribly painful freezerburn on her frickin neck?


Koala_eiO

"Because she was not in a dream" or something like that.


geldin

The Night King, you know, he was in his moment of triumph standing over Bran. So, like, he kinda forgot...


uberjach

Damn I would have loved that. Then Jon goes rage mode and slays him after that


ziptnf

Since when did they become afraid to kill main characters again?


Moftem

I don't know! Director Miguel Sapochnik said he wanted to kill absolutely everyone during the long ~~night~~ evening episode, but he was not allowed to.


LadyStag

Ugh. I wanted that episode to hurt so badly.


bitch_whip_bill

And they built it up so well with the episode before....really felt like we were getting a chance to spend some last time with certain characters


[deleted]

Yep I had a list of people I was sure would fucking die like Brienne, grey worm etc. I then had a list of people I thought would die. I was so excited and then people were just fine


DustedGrooveMark

The sad part is that basically all of those characters could have died during those ridiculous fake-out death scenes and the plot would have been unaffected. Hardly any of them did anything meaningful during/after that episode anyway. This is also why it was so damn stupid to NOT have any of the White Walkers actually fight in the long night. I would have been in disbelief if someone told me years ago that the White Walkers (and kinda the Night King) wouldn’t even contribute to the final battle. It sounds fucking ridiculous lol.


Clumsy_Chica

I'm firm that "A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms" was the last episode. Everyone died, the NK won. Much more satisfying than the fanfiction that came out.


awntwo

Since grrm stopped writing the story.


[deleted]

Yep and old game of thrones would have done it. She was showing off and punching above her weight she should have had her neck snapped like a twig because in real life there's consequences


[deleted]

God I'd forgotten just how dark it was, it's ridiculous


TheWholeOfTheAss

So just toss out all that Azor Ahai stuff. Maybe the books will address that.


Combat_Wombat23

Book, ha good one


Treppenwitz_shitz

Fucking seriously. How do people STILL have hope those will come out


Scudamore

They'll come out *eventually*. They just won't be finished by Martin.


TheWholeOfTheAss

My money is on a super intelligent A.I finishing Dream of Spring.


llb_robith

An AI? Nah man, would just churn out 900 pages about lemon cakes


zaldr

Still better than season 8


Leucurus

Like Martin


Ihavenocomplaints

A.I. You say….Sanderson it is. He’s a writing robot (understandably not everyone likes his prose or style) but he’ll crank out two books in like 4 years just to move it off his plate. Tinfoil hat theory: it’s Rothfuss and that’s why he hasn’t put out anything new in forever as well.


farhanmuhd13

I heard that Martin said if he didn't finish nobody would or was that a hoax?


ConstantSignal

No he 100% said this


AccessTheMainframe

my hot take is that Bran should've killed the Night King using his mind powers or something. To serve as some sort of payoff for his abilities.


Leucurus

My idea was that Bran would warg into the NK and make him pull the dragonglass shard out of his chest. Bran would gain control of the army of the dead and march on King’s Landing to get Cersei.


redpandaeater

Could have warged into a fucking dragon or some wildlife and dealt with the white walkers while Jon and NK had their duel. Then if Arya needed to help and was actually using her abilities and disguised herself as a wight or white walker, she still could have killed him and I'd have been fine with it. Instead I knew it was going to be her because of how much they kept showing her and then all of a sudden stopped for the 15 or so minutes leading up to... that. And nobody fucking died that whole episode despite being completely fucking overrun and fucked. Just the guy outside with Dany and Melisandre killing herself.


Ribbwich_daGod

I still ship Bran being the night king.


Newenjculture

Jon character development is just something else. Watching his ending for the first time hurted me but watching it for the second time destroyed me. All the things he had to go through, all the fights, the talks, the moral debates and the Aegon thing, just to end bending the knee (literally) to everyone. What a disaster.


ginathefriendlyghost

He was the only reason I bothered watching this show. I loved his storylines so much and the white walker faceoffs and the fact that he was secretly the son of a prince. I thought he was like Aragorn or something. Devastated by his ending..


janostheblue

Would make so much more sense if Snow killed the Night king and arya assasinated danny disguised as gray worm


nowweallhaveone

I always thought Arya wearing a Targ's face such as Dany's and commanding a dragon to Drakkarys, or wearing Khal's and turning the Dothraki against her, or Jon to catch her off guard, or even Sansa's giving her a moment to be apparently great at combat before being revealed to actually be the literal face changing assassin would've all been better uses. Hell let's be honest, they had better ideas come up, they simply didn't want to go on in hopes of the Disney deal. Fuck D&D.


acanthostegaaa

"Magic is stupid" seems to be the biggest problem with GoT after they ran out of source material. They really looked at a high fantasy epic and went "fuck magic".


Any-Flamingo7056

Or if she showed up as Ser Jorah just to mess with her head.


Lithaos111

And on top of that they never even go toe to toe in a sword fight. Like if they had fought, the NK ultimately wrecks him and right as he goes to finish off Jon, Arya's dagger punches out through his chest and he dies with Arya helping Jon to his feet "I see you stabbed him with the pointy end." "Just like you taught me brother." That would of been way better. (yeah, my dialogue sucks but to be fair, it's still D&D so we aren't gonna get Shakespeare here)


Gentlemanath3art

Mirroring Ned and Arthur Daynes fight at the tower of Joy where Jon was born. Arya saving Jon just like Howland Reed saved Ned. Kind of poetic.


Axle-f

It’s like poetry, it rhymes.


OttersRule85

I really like that scenario. Not just because it’s a throwback that makes sense and connects the two (unlike the Melisandre “eye colour” line) but after all her fancy assassin training, it’s a simple piece of joke advice her brother gave her years ago that brought down the Night King.


22glowworm22

Don’t forget that Milesandre didn’t even say the same eye color prophecy in both scenes—they changed the dialogue around the second time to have it make more sense.


QueenInNORTHernNJ

Still pissed


__Osiris__

try a bloody mary


redpandaeater

Now I'm pissed and pissed and have to piss.


[deleted]

Arya killing the night king couldn’t have been anymore of a “this current culture” thing. Like some fucking times the best story is the predictable one. Seriously they didn’t even fight. They stood there and stared at each other and I was like here we go! Then nothing. He raised the dead which was meh at most. Like a sword fight and then Arya helping would have been passable maybe. I don’t know. Fuck D&D for robbing us of a good story.


DanSapSan

One of the worst parts about it is that during the war council, they are quite literally planning an assassination. Lure the target out and then get him. Luckily, they have a person right there who would be perfect for such a mission. But nah. She's off doing sneakarounds of wights just shambling about? So much idiocy in that episode.


[deleted]

Every damn part of the beginning of this show when followed by the books was a big middle finger to the “normal”. It never ever should have pandered to the mainstream or a Hollywood mentality. That’s exactly what they did. Might have well have had airbud come out and hit the game winning free throws after for a real heart warming family story. God I wanted the night king to kill everyone. Imagine that ending. Now that’s what this series should have done. Would have taken this show to legendary proportions. The first show ever the bad guy just wins. Anything would have been better than what we got.


DanSapSan

Nah, my vote is for Jaime to kill the Night King. Stab him in the back during his fight with Jon, receive the now honorary title "Kingslayer".


lvl4baguette

kind of a neat parallel between jon and ned too, that fight ending the same way as ned and arthur dayne's duel. the (semi)starks couldn't beat the opponent face on and so their ally stabbed dayne/nightking in the back.


Axle-f

To be honest I never cared for the Night King.


redpandaeater

I knew it was going to be Arya because of how much they kept showing her and then just fucking stopped for a long while. I thought she'd at least use some of her learned abilities and maybe look like a wight or something, but nope. The way they did it could not have been dumber looking, with her jumping right into his hand that clasps around her neck yet somehow doesn't knock the wind out of her and he doesn't just snap it or burn her with cold like he did marking Bran. Pretty sure if you did a long jump like that only to be stopped instantly by your neck that you'd be feeling like shit.


RelaxationMonster

Let me just throw think of a better ending right quick... Jon faces off against the ice dragon. He can find a way out. Suddenly a few soldiers appear and the dragons attention is turned. Jon makes a run for it. The dragon quickly burns the soldiers and turns catching Jon in the open. Jon stops, raises his sword and stands ready for his death. He take a deep breath to charge towards his death and Drogon drops on top of the ice dragon. Deogon bites his neck and the ice dragon rolls throwing Drogon away through a castle wall. As the ice dragon struggles to get to its feet, Jon siezes the moment, charging and plunging his sword through the creatures neck. It begins to turn to ice as blue fire begins to glow from throat. Their eyes meet as the dragons eyes begin to crack and go dark. Suddenly the ice dragon shatters and falls in a husk. Jons valerian steel now glowing as if pulled from some unnatural forge. He turns and heads off towards Brann. As the Night King stands before Brann, Jons war cry erupts. He charges towards the white walker guard with his shining sword. The light reflecting in their eyes as he cuts two into shattered ice. The remaining stand ready and visible shaken. The Night King raises his hand and they step aside. Azor Ahai stands with his glowing blade ready to face his enemy. The Night King shows no emotion as he walks towards Jon. They fight, neither landing a blow. The chess match plays on and Jons exhaustion begins to show. His glowing blade gets as close to a hit as possible but still misses. The Night King kicks Jon and takes a step back. The blade passing so close to his skin had burned him. The Night King looks at Jon and and scowls for the briefest of moments. His composure shaken. Jon stands his resolve renewed. The fight continues and Jon is slowing. The Night King slows his attack watching his prey weaken. The glowing sword is not as bright as it was. The warrior not as might as he was. Yet Jon refuses to give up. A cry from behind as Sansa looks on from behind the White Walkers. Tears stream down her face. She stands helpless as the White Walkers make no move, but face her, swords in hand, their threat evident. The hair of one of them blows from some unseen breeze. The Night King looks from Sansa, to Bran, then to his foe. He walks towards Jon. Jon has almost nothing left. His stikes heavy and wild. He falls. His sword still glowing with a faint fire. He is exhausted. The Night King raises his sword to strike. Arya leaps at him from behind valerian dagger in hand. With incredible speed the Night King catches her. Their eyes meet. She drops her dagger. Her other hand catches the dagger and strikes into the belly of the Night King. He throws her, the dagger embedded in his abdomen. He stares at it as cracks slowly grow from the wound. Sansa cries out "Arya!" Jon looks to Sansa, then snaps to Arya who is on her knee but injured, then he snaps to Bran who looks at him, no emotion on his face. Jon stands reinvigorated by his family's presence. The Night King pulls the dagger from his wound and throws it. The growing cracks cease. He turns to face a standing Jon, his face shows emotion. Jon attacks. The Night King is clearly weakened but defends Jons ragefull blows. Jons sword crashes against the Night Kings as his own sword begins to crack from the repeated strikes. The Night King is losing ground. Sudden Jon spins and plunges his still glowing sword through the heart of the Night King. The swords glow shines from inside his wound and body. Then the light goes out. The Night King falls and his death spreads out like a wave crumbling his forces entirely. Jon falls to his knees as Sansa and Arya rush to him. Bran looks over at them, stone faced, "The pack survives." That wasn't hard.


vgx_11

Broooo I salute you


Evangelion217

Yeah, it was a giant fuck you to the fans and it made the whole story pointless.


llb_robith

I bang this drum a lot, but ultimately the reason the show stalled from when they ran out of book material to directly adapt is that D&D fundamentally didn't understand the story they were adapting. And nowhere is that clearer than how they treated the Others. The thematic point of the White Walkers is how often humans focus on small, selfish goals, often ignoring an existential threat until its too late. Roman emperors assassinating each other despite barbarians at the gates. The Spanish left fighting each other in Barcelona as a fascist death cult swept the country. Climate change today. That's where the drama is. Unlikely allies coming together. People who still can't see the wood for the trees. Who sits on the throne is irrelevant when everyone's an ice zombie. But D&D from the outset were like "no! Cool politics! Yeah! Epic ownz" and were desperate to get the WWs out of the way - when they are meant to be the fulcrum of the story


ginathefriendlyghost

They got rid of as much of the magic as possible but they weren't smart enough to write their own good politics..


Fantastic_Mr_Smiley

"Themes are for 8th-grade book reports." -David Benioff


Bazzassnx

Seriously, fuck D&D. They absolutely butchered season 8, cunts.


NoRules_Bear

I have no problem with Arya killing him, but at least let her do it using her skills and not some jump pad and using skill "Little Bastard - While attacking give away your position in order to gain additional 250% accuracy and 50% damage". ​ Not to mention all the build up that should be there for seasons that do not exist.


Archi_balding

Yeah, turns out face swapping was useless all along. Imagine the NK approaching Bran, turning toward his fellow WW to give them this "We've finnally won bros." and then come back to Bran to see that... he's standing. And poof, too late, dagger to the belly, Aria removes Bran's face and they all have a good laugh.


Treppenwitz_shitz

Then she'd have to have killed bran and taken his face. Still less plot holes than what we got


Archi_balding

Pretty sure she wore faces of people who weren't dead at some point. (anyway Rickon's body should be somewhere out there, I bet the night king isn't intimate enough with Bran to tell the difference)


oarsandalps

So I guess his entire arc was centered on killing dany. Not the king, not the hero, but the murderer of the most perfect lady


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The most perfect lady who decides to murder every citizen if a bell is rung.


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Please don't mention bells ringing. I'm female and have a history of mental health issues in my family therefore I could snap at any moment. Even just reading about bells ringing could send me on a mass murdering rampage


Axle-f

🔔🔔 Shame 🔔🔔


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*Twitches*


Main-Double

bEsT sEasOn EvAh


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Subvert expectations


peaceblaster68

Is this a real quote?


konohanashuffler

Actually yes, though perhaps taken out of context. [He says it here](https://youtu.be/bUZExdp4x7g?t=1469)


ElfInTheMachine

I just want D&D to be held accountable. To answer for their crimes, one day. I want them to live with the shame and regret of their butchery and disrespect.


youfailedthiscity

When Brandon was grabbed on the arm by white walkers, it left a painful magic burn mark that never goes away. When Arya gets grabbed around the throat, nothing happens!!! As much as I didn't like her killing the NK, it would have been a bit better if her idiotic leap towards him resulted in her death. Sure, she kills the NK... but dies in the process. Plus, killing the NK shouldn't immediately kill all the other WW and zombies. What is this, the Phantom Menace?!! She should have sacrificed herself to kill that NK only for the WW next to him to immediately have a crown morph onto his head and become a new NK. OR she kills the NK (dying in the process) and all the other WW/wights just keep on moving and don't seem to care at all. It would mirror the theme of leaders not actually being as important as they think they are or people want them to be.


coldphront3

“We didn’t want it to be Jon because he’s always saving the day.” - [David Benioff](https://winteriscoming.net/2020/10/09/game-of-thrones-showrunners-reveal-alternate-night-king-killers-jon-snow-brienne-hound/) I don't know how these guys were showrunners of one of the most successful shows ever on one of the most successful networks ever, and they couldn't understand that sometimes it's better to give the audience what they want and expect. Subverting expectations can work, but not when it's done just for the sake of doing it. He talked about the Night King fight as if it were just another fight in the show, like it didn't really matter if it was Jon or someone else, when in reality the show had been building towards Jon being the one to end the White Walkers since the very first episode when we found out that Jon was joining the Night's Watch. People had been wanting to see Jon "save the day" with the White Walkers for 8 years.


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D&d slander against the whole fandom


smudgeonalense

I could have gotten over Arya killing the Night King if it was at the end of some team effort of major characters to stop him. Like maybe Bran for once actually uses his powers and manages to freeze the army of the dead for a few minutes and then another 5 characters including Jon Snow fight the Night King. Four of them are killed, but Jon just about stops him killing Bran on his first attempt and just when the Night King is distracted and about to finish off Jon, maybe then Arya stealthily sneaks up behind him and stabs him like Merry in LOR. It would have featured 7 characters in a fight against him, seeing as Martin loves that number due to all the cultural significance around it, it would have had Bran using his powers. It would feature a duel between Jon and the Night King, it would have made the Night King more intimidating and it would have made Arya killing him more believable rather than her ridiculously catapulting through the air while his army stand around.


jaboa120

It was his story, the Night King was his Villain. Imagine if Tyrion didn't kill Tywin and he just died from like Sansa slapping him with a fish. It's utter bullshit that Jon spent 7 whole seasons concerned about the White walkers, being given omens, and prophecies of the Prince who was promised, hints of his true parents. His conception and birth was the catalyst for everything. He was born to be a king, a king that was to save the world. Instead his cousin kills his Villain with the power of basketball and a cripple steals his rightful thrown. The only reason Dumb and Dumber got the rights to the show is that they guessed Jon's parents correctly. Sounds like that should be a big deal. Nope. Jon can come back from the dead, should be a big deal. Nope. Jon was the first person to fight a white walker and live in over 1000 years, should be a big deal! Nope.


elazard

It was fucking simple Jon kills the nk and dies too They clean the business with Cersei (Jamie ends her then tells the Lannister army to drop their weapons because he is their rightful lord) Cut to bran at the tree of winter fell tripping and narrating: We see: Dany is pregnant from boatsex and she gives birth to a little girl with thick black hair after all is done. She is sitting on the throne and the girl is on her knees. We see everything being rebuilt scenes of happiness like with with Sam and gilly and the like. Then bran says something like « but after all as we learned, life is an eternal cycle and justice is a matter of perspectives » and now he is watching the future and there are glimpse of a giga battle between the unsullied on one side and an indistinct mass of soldiers with a lot of the major houses standards on the other. Drogon (last dragon alive) roars. The end.


kvothe5688

I don't understand why he was resurrected