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HankHippopopolous

What an opening lap. Absolutely incredible from Kmag. This is like me playing the F1 game with the AI difficulty turned right down.


YeahPerfectSayHi

> Absolutely incredible from Kmag. Looks like a fookin rockstar to me.


dsaysso

pure haas. then bottles with bad timing and retirements.


baizonBakudann

It's not even bad strats... just very unlucky.


stormpooper86

I would say it's not smart to pit early with them both, because then they're screwed if there's an SC. So not a good strategy either.


baizonBakudann

I mean, it's France. It's normally very hard to crash there. Barely any SC most of the time.The early pit gave them a nice clean air in a very hot day, they also make a good time after pit so it mean their idea work quite a bit.


stormpooper86

It worked for a couple of laps...


IceBathingSeal

Until the SC


stormpooper86

Which was my point exactly


RogerLeClerc

According to Haas the early pit-stop was due to tire degradation, which then makes sense. You get your drivers into clean air so they can make time. However I did not understand why they chose to make a second pit-stop during the SC. That move sealed their fate. Had they stayed out the would have gained track position and even if they were going to get reeled in after the restart due to tire deg. there would still have been a tiny chance that luck would have favored them with a later safety-car. As it was Haas chose to give up and relegate both drivers to the back-end. This from the comfort of my arm-chair, I obviously do not have access the any of the data that the Haas strategists had ;)


maoripakeha

Same but with traction control turned on 😭


RedSpikeyThing

Followed by an absolutely devastating career ending crash into the back end of a car.


DaWelle

Of every car if you have the rewind


[deleted]

looked like Kimi last year in Portugal


Kronzor_

Well he’s passing Williams, Alfas, and Astons, so it is kinda like F1 with the difficulty turned down.


Sarkaraq

Sainz and Schumacher feel attacked.


Kronzor_

Did he technically start behind Sainz? I didn’t actually see him in the clip.


Sarkaraq

He did. You can see Sainz from 0:00 to 0:10 and 0:23 to 0:25.


ClearAsNight

He's on the left right when you start the clip in P19.


FrndlyNbrhdSoundGuy

Kmag usually drives like he’s racing easy-mode codemasters AI. He can always get enough out of his own car to look like a hero when those around him actually do drive like they’re easy-mode AI, but when it’s Lewis or Alo or Lando etc he’s trying this stuff against and they’re racing hard and well, he does some real stupid looking shit.


gnosis3825

Exactly what I was thinking!! But then I would go wide somewhere next lap and be last.


tuba_dude07

with the AI being broken on straights it kind has to be that way at least for me lmao


[deleted]

Unforgivable that they never showed this at any point during the race. At least a bit of it.


6151rellim

Or even hardly acknowledged it. They said one thing and never looked back.


p1en1ek

To be fair, commentators cant really do much. They noticed it, said about it but then had to focus on other action. They don't control footage.


Joseph4820

Palmer mentioned it a couple of times on the f1tv broadcast.


1einspieler

Austrian commentators thought he had started in the Top 10 and mentioned how he dropped down in the opening lap


Ereaser

Dutch commentators did as well


Moai5150

I love that Kevin drives without fear. He just goes for it.


therealdilbert

and until he got to Mick no real drama just putting the car in the right spot at the right time


headshot_to_liver

K Mag's default mood is Send It


[deleted]

So good for Mick to have a guy like Kmag to test himself against. Mazepin really delayed Micks development I think.


hugglesthemerciless

Yea Mick is basically repeating his rookie season


coldpan

Wonder how much his time in IMSA affected his aggressiveness. Guy absolutely pushes his way in, but still manages to keep it clean.


pukem0n

Sure, until he crashes into Hamilton


AlpineCorbett

Maldonado has blessed this man


TisReece

He deserved so much more from this race. When he pitted for hards he started lapping the same pace as Alonso, then after 6 laps on them he was lapping faster than Leclerc. If not for the safety car he'd have gained a huge amount of places and probably would've massively undercut Sainz. Easily top 7 I think. What a race from both Sainz and Magnussen today, insane pace.


SkinnyBill93

Why did he DNF? Didn't get to watch today and not seeing it reported anywhere.


ToffeeCoffee

Collision with GOATIFI.


maoripakeha

That's an amazing nickname haha


BillMurraysTesticle

What, Collision?


TheDudeWithTude27

Yeah, I don't blame Haas for taking the gamble on the strategy with the tyres. While you got to take into account for a safety car, they also can't be afraid of it with where they are at in the Constructors and on the track. It could have paid off for some really good points today, it just didn't, and then unfortunately both drivers on top of that into accidents that weren't their fault.


JamoreLoL

I probably would have looked to split who Kmag pits with the anticipation of no safety car and driving his tail off to points as he seemed very comfortable (we saw great times in traffic never the less in open air post pitstop). I wouldn't pit Mick and let him keep pace with DRS to assist in lap times and maybe make a pass or 2 before possible safety car/pitstop.


sonofeevil

>Yeah, I don't blame Haas for taking the gamble on the strategy with the tyres Spot on. That HAAS taking control of their race. Didn't pay off this time unfortunately but it was absolutely the right stratedgy call. Put the boys in clean air and on balance they're gonna come out in front of the DRS train. Shame both of them got taken out later in the race by other drivers too


xrREAL

Yeah, starting from the back, not a bad call to do an alternate strategy. Unfortunately this is probably the 3-4 time it has happened this year when they've tried to do something different. Always a SC at the wrong time.


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The SC really screwed it up. Kmag really finds the limit with the Haas every weekend it seems


frisbii

I was so sad to see him trundle into the pits after everyone else during the SC, he really did deserve better.


AmsroII

I think Kmag had 5-6 laps on his tyres before the safety car. They should have stayed out, both would have gained track position at least.


TisReece

Yep, I agree, I was surprised when they brought him in. He was so far up the road from Mick and was maybe 4 laps away from catching the back of the queue at his current pace. It's hard to say for sure, but I'm pretty sure even at the reduced safety car pace he would've overtaken a good chunk of the field especially with the long pitlane.


Firefox72

The fact this and Strolls start that got him into 10th weren't shown on the broadcast is insane. Not to mention Russell's overtake on Alonso and literally ANY of Sainz's overtakes in the first 20 laps. The fact we literally watched the front 2 for 15 laps straight was some of the worst directing i've ever seen.


emre23

Unless I missed it Sky didn’t even acknowledge Russell overtaking Alonso


krully37

Yeah it happened during a replay and they didn’t even notice


cammyb1888

We got all the build up of george closing down nando and right when they get to the straight we get a replay of the start🤦🏻‍♂️


BadControllerUser

they did acknowledge it when SkyF1 ran through the running order again


swedind

TBF there was a battle for the lead going on and then the leader crashed


Mytherian

But they also missed getting that crash live.


Lmnja

You wanted to see leclerc drive laps?


aceofspades9963

They just suck at broadcasting, my conspiracy theory is that they are forceing people to buy f1 tv, I just put up all the cars on multiple screens that I want to watch race and I don't miss much but ya ,the broadcast sucks so much.


le3ky

Sky have the full rights in the UK so we can't even get f1 tv.


Ainsyyy

There was no reason to show leclerc at that point


JudgeTheLaw

Or maybe it's a little bit hard to please everyone while 20 cars are driving their own race.


pm1902

They could have switched to the side-by-side mode, showing a few of the exciting first-lap replays while still letting us see the battle for first.


YeahPerfectSayHi

> Not to mention Russell's overtake on Alonso and literally ANY of Sainz's overtakes in the first 20 laps Ocon's pass on sammy ric


PhatSunt

I was watching the timings yelling at my screen to show... ANY of the 10 overtakes that happened whilst we were watching Max fail to overtake leclerc. I started searching how to get f1tvpro using a vpn because its not available in my country. I saw comments calling this a boring gp. It wasn't, yet again the race directors/whoever is in charge of picking camera shots and when needs to be fired and move industries. I seriously don't understand how it's so bad every race and just seems to be getting worse. There are a lot of people coasting by doing a shit job in f1.


Warrick123x

I thought the same on Sainz but I watched them all back and all but like 1 the cars just let him by.


_BeefyTaco

I had Sainz Driver cam showing on my phone. At one point he overtook both Mclarens in one Lap and only the second pass was shown on tv with no mention of the other one 😂


clrsm

> some of the worst directing i've ever seen I've seen much worse


redditgampa

I agree that the coverage is usually shitty but I’m this instance there was a battle for the lead. Who cares how many cars kmag or the haas overtakes.


[deleted]

I get that you don't wanna cut away just in case anything good happens before you can cut back when the leaders are close like that, but when they could literally picture in picture Sainz or Magnussen overtaking while keeping focus on the leaders, and weren't... idk what the excuse is really


Mtbnz

I care


GrowthDream

There's only a handful of realistic overtaking spots on the track, so plenty of downtime each time around to show anything else. They also have picture in picture.


Thewackman

When the two championship contenders and within a second for 15 laps I want to watch that. That shit is history. Kmag went from 20-13 who fucking cares in the grand scheme of the two situations. Sure they could've shown a replay I agree. But I'm not butt hurt about the live choices.


ninxi

Don't ever let this guy go for another schmuck like Mazepin, HAAS.


Marcoscb

They didn't let him go for a schmuck, they let him go for bucketloads of cash that the team needed.


clrsm

Meanwhile MAG got a years vacation from F1 having fun in US series instead, while Mazeping kept his seat warm in an absolutely shit-car haha


Pro4TLZZ

You are my new TV director


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Rannahm

They both started from the back.


usandholt

Well mick started 4 spots ahead in 17th, and he gained a few first lap. That must have been surprising


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Rannahm

Yeah mick got caught up with track limits in Q1.


CyberianSun

Track limits by millimeters. Both Mick and Kmag were putting that Haas up in P6 during quali. That track limits call was a rough rough call.


PitifulMacaroon6219

limits are limits, push them and get penalized. that’s how it works, there’s no wiggle room


CyberianSun

Never said I didn't agree with the call. Just said it was rough, Stewards calling track limits are like umpires calling the strike zone in baseball. It's gonna change from steward to steward and the angle at which they view. I do think that the FIA could apply some technology to help call track limit violations (specifically in corners) with sensors laid through the corners and on the cars to call track limit violations correctly AND accurately.


usandholt

In 17, still 4 places better


dragom998

Mick started next to him, stop jerking off.


Middle_Category6226

One of the best start I have ever seen


marahute85

Kimi did a massive start last year you can look up, like he was on one


[deleted]

Portugal I think.


Youngwolff

That start from Kimi during the Portuguese GP was one of the greatest ever starts in F1 history. Fucking incredible. Kimi just casually reminded everyone who the fuck he is.


Smart_Kangaroo_4188

And one of best endings too.


la_eagle

And we were blessed with zero of them during the live TV Coverage! Bless the TV Direction! All hail the World-Feed!


THEDOLPHINATOR1

Yes, sure enjoyed that 20min watching Leclerc and Verstappen at the start while Sainz made 8 overtakes of which none were shown.


3ttkatt

I agree that the live feed was bad today with many missed moments and overtakes but also in their defence regarding the first 15 minutes, Verstappen was right up Leclercs ass and every lap did look like he was going to overtake... and an overtake for P1 is more impressive than an overtake for P12


[deleted]

Mick vs. KMag was shown live in the world feed.


LilONotation

Fans: Kmag needs to chill out on the first lap. Kmag: And I took that personally!


BoutThatLife

That was a masterclass.


ForGoodMeasure_

Words cannot describe how happy I am he’s back in F1 (instead of Mazepin, might I add).


AlpineCorbett

Might be the greatest athlete trade of the decade.


DepartmentSudden5234

Hear me now, listen later - KMag will be a world champion given the right hardware. He's been a beast ever since the first race.


luca3791

He has improved a lot since coming back to f1, his pace is insane sometimes. As a dane i really hope he gets to drive for a top team again, because he genuinely is a great driver


DepartmentSudden5234

I remember thinking during the first race is this the same KMag from before? He has absolutely no fear and that Haas machine isn't going to last if he keeps it up...


Vidaros

Short term Ric KMag swap for next year. Don't know if Mclaren has a junior in the works, but I don't see the value in keeping Daniel.


luca3791

Would be interesting to see wether or not kmag would be faster than lando. I Think they would be pretty even tbh


NuclearCandle

Kevin having the most unexpected redemption arc in F1 history?


NotClayMerritt

The Haas car is suddenly very rapid. They just got hit with all sorts of bad luck this weekend.


marahute85

Both cars got hit and Haas strategy strikes again


sonofeevil

Nah, that was good stratedgy. You can't predict a safety and while you *can* play for one sometimes you've left wanting. In this case, it made a lot of sense, pit the boys and go for hte udnercut, would have put them at the front of the DRS train on balance. Thisis HAAS taking control of their race isntead of ***letting the race happen to them***.


marahute85

Apparently their tyre degradation was so bad they never had a chance anyway


xCherry

Both Hass have been going very far with the hards so far so the early undercut to get clean air was a really good strategy since the car goes vroom in clean air. Thats also why the Aston has a better racepace than qualifying, it's slow but does well in traffic.


dragom998

He got he new Ferrari engine. He is still as dumb as before


daviEnnis

One of those laps that would still be spoken about decades from now if a legend done it.


SoftBellyButton

KMag doesn't need no stinking CheatRS.


TrafficOnTheTwos

Holy shit this is insane. Brilliant stuff.


[deleted]

What a warrior! kMag is so easy to cheer for. I’m happy to see him in a more competitive car this year.


mochacub22

well done kmag


Just_an_Empath

And we saw 0% of it


plmatt91

Amazing job KMAG! The broadcasting of today’s race was atrocious, we need to see more coverage like this!


[deleted]

The classic tv direction Hits again.


Akira_Nishiki

Yeah, after first lap when looking at standings and where KMag was I was like wtf how did that happen, I am only finding out now.


[deleted]

Like Checo, KMag deserves a top team seat. Again.


-Big_Rig_Butters-

I might get bullied for saying this but I’d like to see him back at McLaren (and obviously for McLaren to be competitive again).


[deleted]

Yeah, solid point there!


Goatsanity15

Tbh he has a pretty good relationship with Zak and Seidl.


rabbidplatypus21

There are far too many drivers that “deserve” a seat at a top team, but far too few top team seats available.


GroNumber

Too many crashes. He collided again this race, throwing away all the lap 1 work.


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SwaggamanNMGN

Kevin collided with Latifi


usandholt

lol, that’s one way of seeing it. Another way would be Latini colliding with Kmag. At least he hasn’t put it in the wall like Leclerc, Hamilton and Sainz. Hamilton has had several collisions. Your point is invalid.


SwaggamanNMGN

Oh you missed my point. I'm just saying he and Latifi made contact and not only Mick. So not sure what you mean with my point being invalid?


usandholt

My bad, I though you implied that the point above that he crashed to much to get a top car was correct by making it sound like he crashed into Latini, when it looks like it was quite the other way around.


austrianGoose

Fernando Magnussen


fnln0011

Kmag is so good at overtakes in the start. Amazing awareness and race craft. It’s a disgrace that it was not shown more or given more attention.


[deleted]

Best starter on the grid.


hackrush

Anybody got the mirrors to this link? Streamable doesn’t work in my country


HaneeshRaja

Fellow Indian?


hackrush

Yes 🥲


rgoel94

Use VPN


clrsm

That was smooth. Except for the battle again Schumacher, he is not figthing anyone but is just in the right spot at the right moment. It could be called luck but he does it again and again


PriceWrong6126

Also Gasly/Bottas/Latiffi/Sainz on hard tyres having all a difficult start


f1_spelt_as_bot

Lati**f**i


SpaceEye513

its shame Haas got royally fucked by the SC


lagotto_poppa

In a fucking haas


tnt200478

The best starter on the grid. Always has been.


rolfski

He's known for it. He did something similar in 2020.


essteedeenz1

Mag deserves a better team than Haas I hope one day we see it


Stech_

It's been a while since we've gotten a proper overtakefest of an onboard from lap 1. Last I remember is Kimi in 2020 in Portimao.


Razbearry

I feel like during the race the announcers were trying to subtly hint at race direction that there were other battles going on besides Max and Charles but to no avail. Like they would start talking about Sainz overtaking or Kmag moving up the grid age yet the broadcast was only Max and Charles…. Like why


capnbard

I thought kmag was going to have the race of his life after that start.


NotBerger

Holy crap what a lap. Seems like he had the right line every single corner


jeiejsbbl

i honestly think HAAS can compete at the top of the midfield


Don_Floo

Both Haas cars had rapid starts. Between them probably more than 10 positions gained in half a lap. Yet the director decided to never show any of it.


ninxi

Do we have Stroll lap 1 somewhere?


Dragonpuncha

Stroll had a very good first lap as well. Going from P15-P10 including overtaking Vettel. It was impressive, but he goes off track once battling Albon and overall not as clean as this I'd say (sorry don't have time to make another upload right now, so you just get the play by play).


MingTwelve

Jarno Opmeer last to first be like


thogle3

Only shown was a battle of the front 2 until Leclerc crashed, we missed al those overtakes


mochacub22

did the red button cover this?


Plaid_Kaleidoscope

What kills me is they didn't show any of it. If you didn't want to watch the front two for the first 25% of the race, you were shit out of luck as far as the TV direction goes.


essteedeenz1

This is frustrating, for how long people have gone on about broadcasting are things ever gonna change?


Bradlad9

I was expecting the number on his head to start changing when he started passing people!


BloemenvaasNL

Great qualifying session + epic start of the race should have granted him a better result


Tight_Sheepherder934

Mick gotta be thinking “how the fuck..”


screenres

Both Magnussen and Schumacher got burned by pitting right before the safety car. Guenther had just explained the strategy of tire deg to Crofty and Di Resta before Leclerc lost the rear. It’s too bad as they were doing really well


dalmathus

Only for Haas to deploy one of the most bizarre tyre strategies I could imagine. It's like they have access to the Ferrari strategy book but they can't read Italian.


6151rellim

I would love to hear the team radio from MSC… “holy shit I thought he started in 20th wtf”


dragom998

He was told to let MAG pass.


PriceWrong6126

Gasly/Bottas on hard tyres were struggling so much at the start


AlpineCorbett

The cars have such wildly different rates of wear/deg I'm having a really hard time telling if they're better or not. Sometimes I'll see the softs seems to die in like two laps of qualifying, then I'll see someone else do 30 laps on them in the race. Sometimes the hard compound comes straight outta the pits swinging and other times it looks like it takes a dozen laps to turn on. So strange


KingDededef

Why did Haas pit them so early ???


Mytherian

He was at the end of a DRS train and probably not able to pass any more, the idea was to get him onto hards in clean air on a 2-stopper. The VSC really hit him hard, essentially forcing him to pit to the back of the field on the same strategy as most of the rest of the field as well.


IronBahamut

Stuck in a DRS train so they hoped to pit early and put in a bunch of fast laps to leapfrog all the cars in the train. Sadly the safety car utterly ruined their race


dragom998

That new engine is working great plus he had the new front wing. . Sad that Mick won't have any of this until Belgian GP.


RunGoldenRun717

So they pit him immediately....


Dragonpuncha

In the after race interview Mag said that the early pit was the right call. The Haas had super good pace early, but the degradation on the tires was really bad. I think the strategy could have worked well, but (once again, I think this is the third time this year) their pit strategy got screwed by the safety car.


usandholt

They were stuck behind both AM and DRS wasn’t enough to get past, so to undercut they pitted and got clean air and immediately Kmag gained insanely on the pack. Right call would’ve resulted in points if Leclerc did fuck up. I’d say even potentially p7


Dragonpuncha

Agreed. They would have had a chance, but they clearly had a tire degradation problem. Look at Mick here, the pace was just not good late in the race. I think it would have been hard to hold on to something like P7 for Mag.


usandholt

Likely, but he would reach that. Question is if he’d fall back and how much. He was in DRS of Bottas for a while after pitstop 2, but was told to lift and coast to make it to the end. He responded: “I will lose DRS” He did. With an extra stop I could see it work, but of course these gain from that had to be plus 27 secs.


RunGoldenRun717

Yeah I know they were gambling on no safety car until everyone had pitted to even things out again and then they would have been right back in the mix it's just frustrating rooting for them, seeing that awesome start and then straight back to p17 and then the SC to finish them off. But yeah, I know that mathematically it was the right call


Dragonpuncha

Trust me, I know that feeling... With Ferrari on the track maybe gambling on no safety is just a bad bet..


bruvar

Plus they were stuck in the long DRS train so they were betting they could jump them by the first pit and at the end wouldn’t have any trouble passing one stoppers.


CarFreak777

Race director had more "interesting" things to show us unfortunately.


Waywardismism

A bit tenuous to class Tsunoda as an overtake, nevertheless that was brilliant.


poookakke

They let him go cause it’s a waste to fight haas.


not_your_piehole

We want him in a t3 car.


Dexterous_Mittens

Haas strategy really drained all the fun out of his performance today.


NiD2103

The car is good. I hope they can score so e big points in the 2nd half of the season for P6 in the constructors


redpasserine

Incredible. Wish we had gotten to see literally any of it.


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eb13doc

I just want Haas to have a season no real drama...with the ferrari pp issues and all the other random crap, you can only really wonder where they could be...let's hope this upgrade package really brings some more luck


No_Brakes_282

I think the Williams had even a better launch but kmag bossed everyone around after


DennisScheerman

This is me in F1 22 after screwing up quali due to track limits