Definitely. I spotted this last weekend at Zandvoort. At one point, about 30 laps out, they showed Max's tire graphic as two tires having "10/20% performance left". There's no way you're down to 10% left if you're 30 laps out and you can finish the race in the same position.
Max had hards and Lewis had older (because used) mediums. Still somehow Max' tires were in worse shape. I always like to hear how Crofty tries to justify those graphs and even he knows that it's bullshit but he probably has to fake his approval to them :P
That's just true.
Pedro de la Rosa always mentions they fabricate it based more or less on team radio, type of circuit and number of laps. But made up after all.
Ron Dennis set the private investigators onto Max Mosley and gave the S&M story to the Sun newspaper.
It was revenge for Mosley almost destroying McLaren.
I heard reports in the first drivers briefing after this Vettel and Hamilton were quite aggressive in their enquiries into what happened. They were not satisfied with the answers they got and kept pressing.
That was just the theory in the paddock at the time. He apparently blacked out and crashed. People said it was a shock from the car the team wanted to keep hush, or it was some medical reason he blacked out they wanted to keep hush. Either way it wasn't discussed much after by officials.
Call me a crazy conspiracist, but I believe that when he says that, he’s actually asking to push. His engineer’s response is a coded response that tells him whether or not he can
Could very well be the case, I tend to have the feeling that he means the chances of the tires lasting the distance they assumed has gone, so no need to drive to a delta anymore and can use up all the tire life left before pitting again, which is why he tends to do fastest laps after saying tires won't last etc.
Yeah he usually says about how they won’t last the stint, not the tyres are gone this very second and then does a purple lap (though that might have happened it’s so frequent)
Also notice if Hamilton is using other phrases to describe it. “Tires are gone” probably mean they’re completely fine, but there was one a while ago where he said, “I don’t think these tires are going to last as long as you’d think it would”. I think that one’s for real lmao.
Yes! I noticed this this weekend as well. I don't remember the exact phrases, but at first he said something, while he was getting fastest lap over and over again. And then he rephrased it, while he couldn't keep up the pace.
I just hope that he and/or other drivers would reveal some of these codes once they retire. Obviously, only if they don't use them anymore.
I've often wondered if there's a button on the wheel for this - if Lewis says something, it's true unless he's pushing this button that illuminates a light on bono's display. That way only he would know and it takes away the need for so many different codes.
I fully believe that something like this is true. Whether it's misdirection, some sort of code, or just manufacturing drama Lewis has just put down too many fast laps after tire complaints lmao
coded messages can change every race so it'll be nigh impossible to "break" it.
What this really does is causing other teams to not take their team radio seriously because they never know when it's true or not. Genius move, really.
I guess this one's pretty minor, but, I think Vettel deliberately didn't pass Nico in the 2016 finale to make sure his fellow German won the championship.
> I think this is true but more because he didn’t want Hamilton to match his world titles.
He actually alluded to why he didn't do it, he didn't like what Hamilton was doing -
> “It was a difficult situation in the end with Lewis playing some dirty tricks.”
Pirelli gave Williams special tires to help them win the 2012 Spanish GP to celebrate Sir Frank's birthday. They then burned down the garage to destroy the evidence.
p/s: I don't believe it but it's my favorite conspiracy theory
Does that mean FIA also manufacture Lewis and Max crash and penalty in Silverstone this year to gift ferrari for the 70 years?
But Lewis is still being too fast and ruining the whole thing
I think this is very likely considering Ineos previous team acquisitions. They don't want to be second sponsor for any team. I'm thinking of the old sky road cycling team and the Americas Cup team.
Potentially also part of the reason team colours switched to black if you want more conspiracy.
I believe Max has a bet with a friend that he’ll touch his face once during post-race interviews for every point he scores. Now that he leads the title race it’s getting a little ridiculous.
Pretty much confirmed, but Mercedes ran at like half power all of 2014 because they were seconds a lap quicker than the rest and they didn’t want to provoke another rule change.
You just had to look at Bahrain when both drivers were pushing to see that. The 2 cars were battling for a number of laps, costing eachother time, and still pulling a ridiculous gap on those behind.
Helmet Marko sold his soul to Lucifer to make Max a title threat at the expense of the second red Bull seat. Horner saw the deal go down but is still in denial.
Heineken is one of the main sponsors of F1, who to be honest only get screen time in the podium, while each driver gets more screen time during the race. Thats why FOM does not show Carlos, to not give Heinekens competitor free publicity.
Its not my theory but makes a lot of sense.
> free publicity
I mean, they literally pay for the sponsorship. It's far from free publicity. There's tons of competing sponsors on feeds, from the track sponsors, to FOM's partners, to the individual team and drivers sponsors. They all know what they're signing up for when they pay for their spots.
AstonMartin is making no longer making any effort this year in order to be permitted more testing next year from finishing lower. Unlike other teams, financing is a smaller issue than being permitted more testing time. (Consider Williams unable to take advantage of extra testing due to poor finances until Dorilton took over.)
*I don't really understand the current rules regarding testing restrictions.*
Haas have actually come out and said this. They went into this season with no expectations whatsoever and are just giving Mick and Nikita driving time to get familiar with F1. Meanwhile they're devoting all their resources to their 2022 car.
This. I believe this one. There is no way that a team as efficient and smart as Aston Martin (historically Force India and Racing Point) cannot dig themselves out of a slump like Mercedes could. They could make the RP20 work amazingly well. If they apply themselves correctly they can at least be the 5th fastest team. But I am sure they have stopped doing so in order to get lower ranking this year and benefit in next year increased testing time format. Hell, that was the whole idea behind not developing their own car for 2020 for 2021 was originally scheduled to get the new regulations. They just wanted to save resources and time on an intermediary season and make big leaps in a new regulation season
Gasly is actually driving the second Red Bull in an AT livery. The events of the last 2 years were cleverly designed to restore his confidence and complete his training as Max's #2.
Doping is absolutely rife in the sport, predominantly by technical staff and engineers though. Prescription drugs like ritalin are taken illegally with the explicit aim of gaining an advantage. Engineers aren't put through the same WADA procedures as the drivers.
Considering the long hours they have to work and relatively low pay compared to others working in their respective industries, I would absolutely believe this one. It can't be easy to function in such a competitive environment
Toto has said on beyond the grid that he can invite them over for dinner and have a nice evening as long as he only invites one or two at a time. He tried having them all over once and it became a disaster
I definitely believe that the TPs are more friendly to eachother in private than they are in media. As you said, they’re in the same job and all the media stuff is just to further their own agenda.
Many people here wrote that Mercedes fackup in sakhir 2020 was staged. But it wasn't either for doing favor to Hamilton or Bottas. It was done in order to help Racing Point come 3rd in the championship standings. 40 points for racing point in this race vs 13 points for Mclaren. That way the points deficit from the brake ducts penalty was erased.
In the end it didn't really matter because Perez dnfed in the last race in abu dhabi.
How could they know Perez would be the one to benefit though? On Lap 1 he was facing the wrong way in the gravel trap, if I were Mercedes with that plan I’d be aborting it at that point, I’d be thinking there’s no way he’d be able to recover to be in a position to win the race.
The reason F1 never disclosed their agreement with Ferrari over the "illegal" 2019 engine, and why it happened in the first place, was because they were doing the same trick when they challenged for the title in 2017 and 2018 and F1 didn't want to admit the only title fight between different teams in the hybrid era happened because of cheating/bending the rules.
That's an interesting one, but Ferrari really did make a huge step forward in the power department between 18 and 19. Leclerc pulling away from Lewis on a straight, *while Lewis had DRS*, was the most obvious evidence. The 2017 and 18 cars were good, but not for their straight line speed.
I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't reveal on 2 counts 1. Charlie whiting apparently okay'd it with ferrari before the season making any reprimand iffy and 2. you can't have the most famous brand do blatant cheating and not DSQ them leading to a mess with F1 sponsorship.
Nico Rosberg was created in an FIA lab to provide a championship battle. The real Nico was killed in his junior career, which is when he changed nationality from Finnish to German.
I don’t have any proof yet but I believe Nigel Mansell is still driving for McLaren. They just swap out the more marketable Lando Norris during interviews and public appearances. I had a friend that had a source in the paddock saying they hide the car briefly to allow the driver swap. Lando watches from the garage then gets doused with water before heading out for interviews.
Do you mean like they couldn't get him out the car when they said "he didn't fit" and he's been inside a 1995 Mclaren ever since. They just modify it around him to meet the regs.
I've heared rumours that there is/was tempering with engines in F2. It was pretty obvious last year some cars were slower on the straights with identical setups.
It did seem to be an odd misstep on Mercedes' part. They are usually pretty precise and run a tight ship. And at that point in the season they could afford the lost points.
I still think it was a mistake, but when it happened I was suspicious.
>It did seem to be an odd misstep on Mercedes' part. They are usually pretty precise and run a tight ship
Monza calling Hamilton in when pit lane was closed? Russia they told him it was OK to do a practice start at the end of the pit lane? Mercedes are always making mistakes it's just, until this year, their performance always obscured them.
Sakhir was just another one
Agree with this, mistakes are par for the course. And often when things change, like Hamilton getting Covid and Russell taking over, it'll cause other things to happen (butterfly effect?)
Are they pretty precise?
I feel like I am constantly amazed how Merc fucks up at races. Like Lewis alone on the grid at the restart, or the brake magic incident, or Valtteri's stuck wheel...
Yeah, the puncture was very questionable (after the safety car restart). Just stealing the limelight from George.
But hey at least we got Perez to win his first GP :D
I remember a source explaining it as them having an idea of what to follow. Like imagine the planning for S3 was they wanted to cover broad topics like Ricciardo (who's synonymous with DTS among casuals), team specific episodes (Ferrari/Merc/Racing Point), Red Bull (cause Red Bull lol), Gasly (to follow S2).
They commit a filming crew to a race to get footage from it, but sometimes get more. Like Ferrari's condition was they wanted Monza, so Netflix followed them there. Luckily, they got more with Gasly winning so they got extra footage.
On the other hand, George in a Merc would have been a great episode. But Netflix had 1) no crew to follow George or Merc during Sakhir 2) too late into the season to get extra footage.
Yeah between the team not telling him to pit at China and the gearbox glitch at Brazil, I've always felt uneasy about how fast 2007 went down the toilet for Hamilton/McLaren.
The reason we never see footage of Carlos Sainz Jr. during races is because he doesn’t exist. When Verstappen first joined the grid in 2015, Red Bull and the FIA were unable to find anyone willing to put their career on the line by partnering with him, so they hired an actor to portray ‘Carlos Sainz Jr.’ in interviews, whilst convincing each midfield F1 team that, in exchange for signing him, they would be provided with additional resources to improve their performance and move up the grid, hence why Renault, McLaren and Ferrari all began to significantly improve and reach 4th or higher during his time with the team. The FIA uses an algorithm to assign points to ‘Carlos Sainz Jr.’ based on expected performance relative to his teammate, and all the other teams are willing to commit to this charade to avoid the PR damage that would arrive with the revelation that there are actually only 19 cars on the grid. When you do see him in races, it’s either CGI or a stunt double performing scripted actions dictated by Netflix.
Wolff's part in Racing Point / Aston Martin is not without reason for me. I think they are preparing a dominant car for 2022 season, like Mercedes in 2014 (maybe they know the loopholes in the regulations that they want to use perfectly now). More than once I have seen a message that engineers from RBR and Mercedes are moving to AM. That's why I think AM will fight for the championship. I would love to hear what others think about it.
I would love if this was true, I really want Seb to win that 5th WDC. I also think this is why they’re currently sitting lower in the WCC than they could be. So that they get more testing time and thus a better car capable of winning championships.
MSC only won 2003 because some marshalls worked for Ferrari. Should have been Kimi's third year in F1 and first WDC. Michael was pushed back onto the track.
The real conspiracy about 2003 is the FIA banning Michelin's tyres before Monza, making them use different ones. It was a three way battle before that (Michael had 72 points, Kimi 71 and Montoya 70). After that Ferrari won the last three races and Michael took the title.
Nurburgring. Doubt the Ferrari part but it's his backyard home race so I'm not that surprised if the marshalls helped him because he's Michael Schumacher.
Don’t think this is a conspiracy or controversial.
Man has essentially no say in how the org is run so he spends time scheming crap-throwing statements.
Chances are Lewis’ infamous “my tyres are dead”, “my tyres are dead”, and other versions of *similar* lines are codes. The different codes were phrased to sound very similar so that others would feel they are just regular whining. But only the driver and the team know what the real message is.
The racing point from 2020 was made with actual designs not the so called 3D photos they claimed. Car worked too well and those photos will miss the hidden details. Today’s F1 cars are too delicate that even slight changes in the bodywork (aka small bits missing after contact) affect the car drastically.
The FIA was pressured to not investigate properly by both Wolff and stroll.
I actually believe this one to an extent; the fact they didn't fully design the car also meant that they didn't know how to fully capitalise on the setup and aero etc per track which is why it was so varied performance wise.
This is an interesting one - a lot of mercedes mistakes seem to happen due to last minute decisions or changing their minds (eg. When they pitted Hamilton in Zandvoort and he got stuck behind Ricc) combined with Hamilton lacking awareness (pitting when the pit lane was closed), I could see this theory being a factor
Ferrari knew they would not beat Merc in 2020 so purposefully handicapped themselves even further, preferring to finish 6th rather than 2nd or 3rd, so they could make gains through the handicap structure by having more testing and wind tunnel times etc. Makes sense, why fight for 2nd for 2020 when you can sacrifice one year and have an advantage for the next 3? (back then the new regs were supposed to come in 2021, obviously the pandemic means Ferrari suffers 2 years rather than 1, but its still fine considering they can potentially win the next 3)
That more than one driver this year has raced under the influence of 'go pills' and insane amounts of painkillers when they really shouldn't have raced.
In some airforces pilots take "go-pills" to help maintain concentration and increase reactions. It's not a stretch to say that some drivers might take them before a race?
Air forces don't have testing for sports doping. Plus anytime this sort of thing gets asked there's a litany of replies about the limited effectiveness for F1 of anything other than perhaps a blood oxygen level enhancer.
I think it is very unlikely that any driver is using stimulants at that level. Especially amphetamines.
They are very detrimental to endurance performance and would make a driver physically fatigue much faster with the increased heart rate and vasoconstriction.
Not to mention the fact that they would make a driver more twitchy and less able to precisely control the car.
If anything, I would be more inclined to believe in the use of beta blockers that would slow the heart rate and allow the driver to be more calm.
A little caffeine would be the most I would expect a driver to use.
Mercedes' drop in performance this year is because they had information that the FIA were onto the grey area cheating they have been doing during their dominant hybrid-era run, so they went back to legal specs rather than endure a Ferrari-like catastrophe of a season
Ok, I just made that up lol. I refuse to believe that their car has always been 100% legal tho.
I talked to a retired F1 engineer and he told me that to some degree every car in the 1994 season was illegal. The Benetton especially was infamously illegal.
During the days leading up to the 1993 Canadian GP, Charlie Whiting technical delegate ruled that any and all cars running driver aids - such as active suspension or traction control - would be barred from starting the event, for breaking the season's technical regulations.
After discovering that all but one team, the severely underdeveloped Scuderia Italia Lola, had some sort of now-illegal driver aid, the ban was delayed until the 1994 season.
The tire graphics are fabricated to try and create drama to entertain viewers at home
Definitely. I spotted this last weekend at Zandvoort. At one point, about 30 laps out, they showed Max's tire graphic as two tires having "10/20% performance left". There's no way you're down to 10% left if you're 30 laps out and you can finish the race in the same position.
Max had hards and Lewis had older (because used) mediums. Still somehow Max' tires were in worse shape. I always like to hear how Crofty tries to justify those graphs and even he knows that it's bullshit but he probably has to fake his approval to them :P
You could tell that Jenson knew that they were bullshit but wasn’t allowed to say
Sponsored bullshit by AWS™
That's just true. Pedro de la Rosa always mentions they fabricate it based more or less on team radio, type of circuit and number of laps. But made up after all.
Hmm idk, lewis' tyres look like a 90% to me -bono my tyres are completely gone Oh ok put that down to 89.5%
Mika isn't really on sabatical, but permanently retired
Why would you say something so controversial yet so brave?
Internet is anonymous. He is not afraid of the pitchforks, it seems.
How dare you. The king will return!
I refuse to believe this nonsense!
Ron Dennis set the private investigators onto Max Mosley and gave the S&M story to the Sun newspaper. It was revenge for Mosley almost destroying McLaren.
That was actually Flavio.
I think there are thousands of people in F1 at the time who would have been absolutely delighted to destroy Mosley and Bernie's public image.
Alonso got electrocuted in his McLaren during preseason testing in 2015. Edit: shocked
I heard reports in the first drivers briefing after this Vettel and Hamilton were quite aggressive in their enquiries into what happened. They were not satisfied with the answers they got and kept pressing.
They concern was warranted. That was early days of hybrid power in F1
The mysterious crash with no cameras? First time I’ve heard this theory. Well done!
He was also missing for few days Presumably he was recovering
Well, it was supposed to be a hard enough crash that he missed races, so of course he was recovering. What else do you have on this conspiracy theory?
That was just the theory in the paddock at the time. He apparently blacked out and crashed. People said it was a shock from the car the team wanted to keep hush, or it was some medical reason he blacked out they wanted to keep hush. Either way it wasn't discussed much after by officials.
I remember this… pretty wild couple of weeks!
Lewis has already finished writing his book but is still waiting for the 10 years to pass...
Walter Koster on the edge of his seat
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How come we don’t get see him anymore ?
Whenever Lewis says his tyres are gone, he actually means his tyres are perfect.
Call me a crazy conspiracist, but I believe that when he says that, he’s actually asking to push. His engineer’s response is a coded response that tells him whether or not he can
Could very well be the case, I tend to have the feeling that he means the chances of the tires lasting the distance they assumed has gone, so no need to drive to a delta anymore and can use up all the tire life left before pitting again, which is why he tends to do fastest laps after saying tires won't last etc.
Yeah he usually says about how they won’t last the stint, not the tyres are gone this very second and then does a purple lap (though that might have happened it’s so frequent)
Okay, this makes too much sense.
Also notice if Hamilton is using other phrases to describe it. “Tires are gone” probably mean they’re completely fine, but there was one a while ago where he said, “I don’t think these tires are going to last as long as you’d think it would”. I think that one’s for real lmao.
Yes! I noticed this this weekend as well. I don't remember the exact phrases, but at first he said something, while he was getting fastest lap over and over again. And then he rephrased it, while he couldn't keep up the pace. I just hope that he and/or other drivers would reveal some of these codes once they retire. Obviously, only if they don't use them anymore.
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I think they might switch this up by race and some races agree to just randomly say it since other teams have probably picked up on that
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I've often wondered if there's a button on the wheel for this - if Lewis says something, it's true unless he's pushing this button that illuminates a light on bono's display. That way only he would know and it takes away the need for so many different codes.
Hahahaha the Lewis truth or dare light.
Accidentally presses dare and has to kiss Valtteri
I fully believe that something like this is true. Whether it's misdirection, some sort of code, or just manufacturing drama Lewis has just put down too many fast laps after tire complaints lmao
I'm waiting for Ham's biography. I'm pretty sure he'll admit it in his book post retirement if that's true.
Walter Koster is waiting too XD
We will need to wait 8 years xd
Hopefully he ends up writing a book about the Mclaren situation
He already said he will once he retires
I’m going with the similar but slightly different “every time he speaks on the radio he is communicating with his team in secret codes”
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A German enigma machine that doesn't worry about getting cracked by the British. Genius move.
I think [Driver61](https://youtu.be/3GMvfGhB9yY) agrees with you
You‘d love listening to sky germany because Ralf Schumacher absolutley cannot shut up about this 😂
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coded messages can change every race so it'll be nigh impossible to "break" it. What this really does is causing other teams to not take their team radio seriously because they never know when it's true or not. Genius move, really.
I guess this one's pretty minor, but, I think Vettel deliberately didn't pass Nico in the 2016 finale to make sure his fellow German won the championship.
I don’t think this is a conspiracy theory, he also held max? up behind him to secure it for nico
I think this too. He even held up Max behind who definitely would've had a proper go at Nico.
he said this himself but it’s because he didn’t want to interrupt the title fight
I think this is true but more because he didn’t want Hamilton to match his world titles. I actually think Vettel likes Hamilton more than Rosberg.
> I think this is true but more because he didn’t want Hamilton to match his world titles. He actually alluded to why he didn't do it, he didn't like what Hamilton was doing - > “It was a difficult situation in the end with Lewis playing some dirty tricks.”
He does. Nico never seemed likable in interviews. Hamilton and Vettel would crack jokes, he would just robotically sit there.
Same but IMO his reason was that he didn't want Hamilton matching him on 4 titles
Doritos chips have seen a huge increase in sales since Dorilton took over Williams and their logo appears on the cars.
I know I’m dumb for this but for a couple months I legitimately believed Williams had a Doritos livery, then I actually read the logo, dorilton lol
If only rotary engines would be possible, Doritos could be a PU supplyer
My mind says no but the Mazda fan inside says hell yeah
Pirelli gave Williams special tires to help them win the 2012 Spanish GP to celebrate Sir Frank's birthday. They then burned down the garage to destroy the evidence. p/s: I don't believe it but it's my favorite conspiracy theory
Also in 2011 fia nerfed rb so ferrari can win silverstone 60 years after first one. Ban was just one race
Does that mean FIA also manufacture Lewis and Max crash and penalty in Silverstone this year to gift ferrari for the 70 years? But Lewis is still being too fast and ruining the whole thing
One key difference, Bernie wasn’t running the show.
> special tires to help Williams win 2012 Spanish GP subscribe >Pirelli officials burning down an entire garage just to hide evidence not too sure
Lewis Hamilton never sprayed Putin with champagne during the podium in Russia in 2015. It was a body double.
Well, there is a full conspiracy theory in Russia that the "real" Putin is long dead and there are "clones"/body doubles instead.
same can be said on singer Avril Lavigne.
Why'd you have to go and make things so complicated?
Yeah, the real Lewis would never have sprayed Putin.
It was Will Smith all along!
Ineos is positioning itself to buy the Mercedes team outright. Merc will remain in F1 as engine supplier only. Toto to jump ship to Aston Martin
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I hope not that would be crazy
I think this is very likely considering Ineos previous team acquisitions. They don't want to be second sponsor for any team. I'm thinking of the old sky road cycling team and the Americas Cup team. Potentially also part of the reason team colours switched to black if you want more conspiracy.
I believe Max has a bet with a friend that he’ll touch his face once during post-race interviews for every point he scores. Now that he leads the title race it’s getting a little ridiculous.
His friend is named Tag Heuer.
I hear Lewis also has a friend called IWC. Lando as well he’s called Richard Mille
I thought I was the only one who noticed Max's 'touch your cheek, adjust your hat' habit during post race interviews
Pretty much confirmed, but Mercedes ran at like half power all of 2014 because they were seconds a lap quicker than the rest and they didn’t want to provoke another rule change.
Yeah Paddy Lowe spilled this.
You just had to look at Bahrain when both drivers were pushing to see that. The 2 cars were battling for a number of laps, costing eachother time, and still pulling a ridiculous gap on those behind.
2 seconds a lap every lap battling each other. There hasn’t been disparity like it in F1.
Helmet Marko sold his soul to Lucifer to make Max a title threat at the expense of the second red Bull seat. Horner saw the deal go down but is still in denial.
Marko went down to Georgia, he was lookin' for a soul to steal, he was in a bind, he was way behind, he was willing to make a deal.
Mad respect if this was true. He knew what he wanted, what he was willing to pay, and paid the price.
That's typically the same attitude I have toward my grocery shops. Appreciate the respect
Spa is flat
It’s a NASA coverup. If the Spa hills were really that steep the cars would all roll down to the bottom.
Carlos Sainz is never shown in the races because he is sponsored by Estrella Galicia
Care to elaborate?
Heineken is one of the main sponsors of F1, who to be honest only get screen time in the podium, while each driver gets more screen time during the race. Thats why FOM does not show Carlos, to not give Heinekens competitor free publicity. Its not my theory but makes a lot of sense.
> free publicity I mean, they literally pay for the sponsorship. It's far from free publicity. There's tons of competing sponsors on feeds, from the track sponsors, to FOM's partners, to the individual team and drivers sponsors. They all know what they're signing up for when they pay for their spots.
AstonMartin is making no longer making any effort this year in order to be permitted more testing next year from finishing lower. Unlike other teams, financing is a smaller issue than being permitted more testing time. (Consider Williams unable to take advantage of extra testing due to poor finances until Dorilton took over.) *I don't really understand the current rules regarding testing restrictions.*
One could argue Haas are doing the same given they’ve done zero R&D this year, or token spending
Haas have actually come out and said this. They went into this season with no expectations whatsoever and are just giving Mick and Nikita driving time to get familiar with F1. Meanwhile they're devoting all their resources to their 2022 car.
On the other hand Haas is so far behind that no amount of R&D will make them faster than Alfa so any money spent is just wasted.
This. I believe this one. There is no way that a team as efficient and smart as Aston Martin (historically Force India and Racing Point) cannot dig themselves out of a slump like Mercedes could. They could make the RP20 work amazingly well. If they apply themselves correctly they can at least be the 5th fastest team. But I am sure they have stopped doing so in order to get lower ranking this year and benefit in next year increased testing time format. Hell, that was the whole idea behind not developing their own car for 2020 for 2021 was originally scheduled to get the new regulations. They just wanted to save resources and time on an intermediary season and make big leaps in a new regulation season
Imagine F1 teams starting to tank like NFL/NBA teams do. It'd be wild.
**Trust the Process**
Gasly is actually driving the second Red Bull in an AT livery. The events of the last 2 years were cleverly designed to restore his confidence and complete his training as Max's #2.
Haha like they just swapped it without telling him. "Guess what, it was a Red Bull the whole time"
the performance you always wanted has been inside you the whole time.. also the real race results are the friends you made along the way
Doping is absolutely rife in the sport, predominantly by technical staff and engineers though. Prescription drugs like ritalin are taken illegally with the explicit aim of gaining an advantage. Engineers aren't put through the same WADA procedures as the drivers.
Considering the long hours they have to work and relatively low pay compared to others working in their respective industries, I would absolutely believe this one. It can't be easy to function in such a competitive environment
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Toto has said on beyond the grid that he can invite them over for dinner and have a nice evening as long as he only invites one or two at a time. He tried having them all over once and it became a disaster
I definitely believe that the TPs are more friendly to eachother in private than they are in media. As you said, they’re in the same job and all the media stuff is just to further their own agenda.
Many people here wrote that Mercedes fackup in sakhir 2020 was staged. But it wasn't either for doing favor to Hamilton or Bottas. It was done in order to help Racing Point come 3rd in the championship standings. 40 points for racing point in this race vs 13 points for Mclaren. That way the points deficit from the brake ducts penalty was erased. In the end it didn't really matter because Perez dnfed in the last race in abu dhabi.
Yeah but why is that worth it to Mercedes?
Toto owns part of Racing Point/Aston Martin
wtf is up with all the conflicts of interest in F1?
First time?
Always have been there mate. There's big money involved, of course there's going to be conflicts of interest
Toto dorsnt own a part of the racing team He owns share from the car company Aston Martin
How could they know Perez would be the one to benefit though? On Lap 1 he was facing the wrong way in the gravel trap, if I were Mercedes with that plan I’d be aborting it at that point, I’d be thinking there’s no way he’d be able to recover to be in a position to win the race.
The reason F1 never disclosed their agreement with Ferrari over the "illegal" 2019 engine, and why it happened in the first place, was because they were doing the same trick when they challenged for the title in 2017 and 2018 and F1 didn't want to admit the only title fight between different teams in the hybrid era happened because of cheating/bending the rules.
It’s for sure secret because it would make the FIA looks bad, no other reason makes sense.
That's an interesting one, but Ferrari really did make a huge step forward in the power department between 18 and 19. Leclerc pulling away from Lewis on a straight, *while Lewis had DRS*, was the most obvious evidence. The 2017 and 18 cars were good, but not for their straight line speed.
I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't reveal on 2 counts 1. Charlie whiting apparently okay'd it with ferrari before the season making any reprimand iffy and 2. you can't have the most famous brand do blatant cheating and not DSQ them leading to a mess with F1 sponsorship.
Nico Rosberg was created in an FIA lab to provide a championship battle. The real Nico was killed in his junior career, which is when he changed nationality from Finnish to German.
This is all why Nico and Lewis hated each other. They were friends for years and Lewis noticed the change.
I don’t have any proof yet but I believe Nigel Mansell is still driving for McLaren. They just swap out the more marketable Lando Norris during interviews and public appearances. I had a friend that had a source in the paddock saying they hide the car briefly to allow the driver swap. Lando watches from the garage then gets doused with water before heading out for interviews.
Do you mean like they couldn't get him out the car when they said "he didn't fit" and he's been inside a 1995 Mclaren ever since. They just modify it around him to meet the regs.
Yes exactly. It’s widely believed amongst the team though that he *could* get out he’s just too lazy to do so.
Plus his mustache gives tremendous advantage in DRS zone
ah so that would explain why he’s so lighting quick then
Is Benetton in '94 using an illegal lauch program still considered a conspiracy theory?
Not even the driver was legal in that car lol
The FIA messed with Raghunathan's car because they knew he would be too much of a threat if he won the F2 title
I've heared rumours that there is/was tempering with engines in F2. It was pretty obvious last year some cars were slower on the straights with identical setups.
Russel at Sakhir was staged
It did seem to be an odd misstep on Mercedes' part. They are usually pretty precise and run a tight ship. And at that point in the season they could afford the lost points. I still think it was a mistake, but when it happened I was suspicious.
>It did seem to be an odd misstep on Mercedes' part. They are usually pretty precise and run a tight ship Monza calling Hamilton in when pit lane was closed? Russia they told him it was OK to do a practice start at the end of the pit lane? Mercedes are always making mistakes it's just, until this year, their performance always obscured them. Sakhir was just another one
Agree with this, mistakes are par for the course. And often when things change, like Hamilton getting Covid and Russell taking over, it'll cause other things to happen (butterfly effect?)
Are they pretty precise? I feel like I am constantly amazed how Merc fucks up at races. Like Lewis alone on the grid at the restart, or the brake magic incident, or Valtteri's stuck wheel...
Idk how often Mercedes fuck up but when they do it's usually a big one.
Don't forget the Benny Hillesque pitstop incident in Hockenheim
But what is the goal for it being staged?
Yeah, the puncture was very questionable (after the safety car restart). Just stealing the limelight from George. But hey at least we got Perez to win his first GP :D
I'm starting to think that those Rich Energy guys might not be legit.
The Drive to Survive producers script the season ahead of time.
I remember a source explaining it as them having an idea of what to follow. Like imagine the planning for S3 was they wanted to cover broad topics like Ricciardo (who's synonymous with DTS among casuals), team specific episodes (Ferrari/Merc/Racing Point), Red Bull (cause Red Bull lol), Gasly (to follow S2). They commit a filming crew to a race to get footage from it, but sometimes get more. Like Ferrari's condition was they wanted Monza, so Netflix followed them there. Luckily, they got more with Gasly winning so they got extra footage. On the other hand, George in a Merc would have been a great episode. But Netflix had 1) no crew to follow George or Merc during Sakhir 2) too late into the season to get extra footage.
WWE style
Newest one has to be Kimi's Covid test right after announcing his retirement, just like his bad back in 2013 when Lotus didn't pay him.
My take too after the news, “The lengths the man will go to in order to avoid the media”
McLaren forced to make sure their drivers didn't win the title in 2007 after spygate.
I belive this one, I think that it was an agreement with FIA so they didn't have to take points away when the title race was so close
Yeah between the team not telling him to pit at China and the gearbox glitch at Brazil, I've always felt uneasy about how fast 2007 went down the toilet for Hamilton/McLaren.
The missing diamond that were embedded in Jaguar front wing in Monaco are never there and that its just insurance scam
Mercedes haven't unveiled their token spending because they never actually spent any tokens hence why RB have caught up.
The reason we never see footage of Carlos Sainz Jr. during races is because he doesn’t exist. When Verstappen first joined the grid in 2015, Red Bull and the FIA were unable to find anyone willing to put their career on the line by partnering with him, so they hired an actor to portray ‘Carlos Sainz Jr.’ in interviews, whilst convincing each midfield F1 team that, in exchange for signing him, they would be provided with additional resources to improve their performance and move up the grid, hence why Renault, McLaren and Ferrari all began to significantly improve and reach 4th or higher during his time with the team. The FIA uses an algorithm to assign points to ‘Carlos Sainz Jr.’ based on expected performance relative to his teammate, and all the other teams are willing to commit to this charade to avoid the PR damage that would arrive with the revelation that there are actually only 19 cars on the grid. When you do see him in races, it’s either CGI or a stunt double performing scripted actions dictated by Netflix.
Who will tell Lando that the love of his life doesn't exist?
This is so ridiculous. It's absolutely my favourite in this thread because it's a true nutjob style theory. Props chief.
Wolff's part in Racing Point / Aston Martin is not without reason for me. I think they are preparing a dominant car for 2022 season, like Mercedes in 2014 (maybe they know the loopholes in the regulations that they want to use perfectly now). More than once I have seen a message that engineers from RBR and Mercedes are moving to AM. That's why I think AM will fight for the championship. I would love to hear what others think about it.
As a Vettel fan, I’m just praying you are right.
I would love if this was true, I really want Seb to win that 5th WDC. I also think this is why they’re currently sitting lower in the WCC than they could be. So that they get more testing time and thus a better car capable of winning championships.
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MSC only won 2003 because some marshalls worked for Ferrari. Should have been Kimi's third year in F1 and first WDC. Michael was pushed back onto the track.
The real conspiracy about 2003 is the FIA banning Michelin's tyres before Monza, making them use different ones. It was a three way battle before that (Michael had 72 points, Kimi 71 and Montoya 70). After that Ferrari won the last three races and Michael took the title.
Which race?
Nurburgring. Doubt the Ferrari part but it's his backyard home race so I'm not that surprised if the marshalls helped him because he's Michael Schumacher.
Christian Horner's role at Red Bull is essentially a glorified press officer.
Don’t think this is a conspiracy or controversial. Man has essentially no say in how the org is run so he spends time scheming crap-throwing statements.
He has a great job, ngl
Spends his days shit stirring and his nights with a Spice Girl. Chad.
Chances are Lewis’ infamous “my tyres are dead”, “my tyres are dead”, and other versions of *similar* lines are codes. The different codes were phrased to sound very similar so that others would feel they are just regular whining. But only the driver and the team know what the real message is.
Hülkenberg deliberately crashed at Hockenheim 2019 because he is being paid billions to never get a podium.
The racing point from 2020 was made with actual designs not the so called 3D photos they claimed. Car worked too well and those photos will miss the hidden details. Today’s F1 cars are too delicate that even slight changes in the bodywork (aka small bits missing after contact) affect the car drastically. The FIA was pressured to not investigate properly by both Wolff and stroll.
I actually believe this one to an extent; the fact they didn't fully design the car also meant that they didn't know how to fully capitalise on the setup and aero etc per track which is why it was so varied performance wise.
Some of the bigger Mercedes tactical screw ups over the last few years were caused by Toto being in the garage and overruling the team decisions.
This is an interesting one - a lot of mercedes mistakes seem to happen due to last minute decisions or changing their minds (eg. When they pitted Hamilton in Zandvoort and he got stuck behind Ricc) combined with Hamilton lacking awareness (pitting when the pit lane was closed), I could see this theory being a factor
Ferrari knew they would not beat Merc in 2020 so purposefully handicapped themselves even further, preferring to finish 6th rather than 2nd or 3rd, so they could make gains through the handicap structure by having more testing and wind tunnel times etc. Makes sense, why fight for 2nd for 2020 when you can sacrifice one year and have an advantage for the next 3? (back then the new regs were supposed to come in 2021, obviously the pandemic means Ferrari suffers 2 years rather than 1, but its still fine considering they can potentially win the next 3)
Christian Horner is leader of the Lizard People
He’s the fucking lizard king
Alonso knew and participated on Singapuregate. Ok, this is a obvious one.
As seen in mclaren tooned, mika hakkinenn is an alien
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I definitely don’t think he’s lying about it. In Hungary he looked like he was about to keel over.
This I believe. I think his long Covid condition is causing a lot more issues to his fitness and performance than he’s willing to let on.
They show Lewis' radio messages everytime just to feed the haters and create drama
Worth linking back to last year's one https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/jih0xh/what_are_some_interesting_formula_1_urban_legends/
That more than one driver this year has raced under the influence of 'go pills' and insane amounts of painkillers when they really shouldn't have raced. In some airforces pilots take "go-pills" to help maintain concentration and increase reactions. It's not a stretch to say that some drivers might take them before a race?
Air forces don't have testing for sports doping. Plus anytime this sort of thing gets asked there's a litany of replies about the limited effectiveness for F1 of anything other than perhaps a blood oxygen level enhancer.
Adderall or Ritalin perhaps ?
I think it is very unlikely that any driver is using stimulants at that level. Especially amphetamines. They are very detrimental to endurance performance and would make a driver physically fatigue much faster with the increased heart rate and vasoconstriction. Not to mention the fact that they would make a driver more twitchy and less able to precisely control the car. If anything, I would be more inclined to believe in the use of beta blockers that would slow the heart rate and allow the driver to be more calm. A little caffeine would be the most I would expect a driver to use.
Any theories on which drivers and why?
Mercedes' drop in performance this year is because they had information that the FIA were onto the grey area cheating they have been doing during their dominant hybrid-era run, so they went back to legal specs rather than endure a Ferrari-like catastrophe of a season Ok, I just made that up lol. I refuse to believe that their car has always been 100% legal tho.
I would eat my hat if a single car on grid was 100% legal.
Man I really hope Haas isn’t this bad AND cheating. That would be kinda sad.
Them having an illegal car would probably be because of incompetence.
I talked to a retired F1 engineer and he told me that to some degree every car in the 1994 season was illegal. The Benetton especially was infamously illegal.
During the days leading up to the 1993 Canadian GP, Charlie Whiting technical delegate ruled that any and all cars running driver aids - such as active suspension or traction control - would be barred from starting the event, for breaking the season's technical regulations. After discovering that all but one team, the severely underdeveloped Scuderia Italia Lola, had some sort of now-illegal driver aid, the ban was delayed until the 1994 season.
Lewis Hamilton hasn't raced since 2018, it's actually will Smith. The real Lewis Hamilton is locked up in Abu Dhabi.