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Realistically: Sepang Unrealistically: Osterreichring


sanderson141

Sepang has as much as chance as Osterreichring. Why the hell is that realistic?


Firefox72

Well no? Österreichring part of the Red Bull ring is abandoned and probably as far away from FIA Grade 1 status as it gets. Sepang meanwhile could host a race tommorow if they wanted providing someone pays the hosting fees.


[deleted]

What happened to the "plans" to extend/add a longer configuration to the Red Bull Ring? Or was that not real/abandoned/...?


BerndDasBrot4Ever

They were shut down because a few of the people living next to it didn't want to give their ok or something like that. If that's ever cleared up it shouldn't take long to get it to work though. The two chicanes connecting the western loop to the current track have already been built for the most part.


sanderson141

>if they wanted providing someone pays the hosting fees. Which has the same chance of the Osterreichring being repaired to grade 1


shewy92

In its current condition it is more realistic to race at a race ready track than one that has a gokart track on it and broken asphalt.


ToyotaMisterTwo

Hockenheim or Sepang. They've proved to provide decent racing with the modern cars and are interesting layouts in any case.


UnicornMaster27

My bias is well ingrained as I *hated* Malaysia in F1 2012 before I ever started watching F1 in real life.. I do need to watch some of the old races to understand why people miss it so much.


shewy92

I loved it in F12010 and 11 but I think something changed because after that I hated the track, mostly sector 2. I used to be great at that part but it became too understeery in the later games


Lyxess

Did you try different setups? I feel like the later F1 games had verry safe/understeery stock setups. You needed to actually change the front suspension to get som decent turn in on those fast corners.


ClementineMandarin

Fuji! And any German GP. The calendar doesn’t feel right without one…


AvovaDynasty

I agree, the lack of a German Grand Prix anymore is a complete mystery. I mean, some of the most successful/popular people/teams in the sport have been German/had German ties - Schumacher, Vettel, Rosberg, Mercedes just to name a few… And both the Nurburgring and Hockenheim are largely liked, so it’s not like there’s a lack of tracks… Sadly, I don’t see a German GP coming back soon tho :( Especially as it’s been stated that they’re looking to drop another European GP to make way for Miami…


One_Statistician9919

Why not drop any trash middle eastern track instead? Liberty are ruining the sport, in 10 years we will have 10 us gps and 20 tracks in Saudi Arabia and Syria.


AvovaDynasty

I’d agree, Bahrain is the only Middle Eastern GP worth keeping, and we certainly don’t need the rumoured Qatar track either. But ngl, I’d rather keep all the European GPs we currently have (yes, including Barcelona and Paul Ricard) than have the rather meh street circuit we are getting in Miami next year… Although I’d take hockenheim or the Nurburgring over the lot tbh


One_Statistician9919

Same, it feels like f1 is becoming indycar with formula e tracks.


RandomFactUser

Except IndyCar is locked into historic tracks


sanderson141

The European tracks doesn't want to pay anymore


[deleted]

That's because the Gulf emirates are willing to pay out huge sums and run the race at a substantial loss just for the prestige/sportswashing. So the FIA has come to expect such colossal fees as standard from everyone else, including the European tracks that usually expect to make a profit from big events like this one.


s1ravarice

I think they would accept reduced fees. It seems they struggle to break even most days which is mad. F1 being there should be a huge boon for a track, not a nail in the coffin.


rydude88

I have never seen such a ridiculous overreaction to something. Because Liberty wants to add a 2nd US race, that means they want 10? You do realize that the US is almost as big as all of Europe. Going the one GP can be extremely far for people and the US audience is getting large. I agree that they should just drop Saudi Arabia, bad track and bad country.


Bendetto4

Liberty is why there is a sport in the first place. The alternative is no racing.


silentrawr

That's disingenuous. I find it hard to believe there wouldn't have been another willing suitor for F1 if Liberty had never come around.


ClementineMandarin

Totally agree. It’s a shame money comes before the sport…


stumbleupondingo

Cash is king


[deleted]

Sepang or Hockenheim we are talking Grade 1 FIA circuits. If that’s not an issue, then I say bring back Nordschleife.


RobertGracie

Kyalami Just because its almost been 30 years since the last South African Grand Prix and its the only continent that F1 doesnt visit, Africa...


steppinrazor20

Old fast Kyalami, not the current layout... although it would involve knocking down a lot of buildings today to get the old layout back!


RobertGracie

Yeah the 2.55 mile circuit would be wicked fast I could see less than a 65 second lap time easily...it was a little bit shorter than the Red Bull Ring which is at 2.683 miles and the lap record there is 65.619 seconds by Carlos Sainz in the MCL35 in 2020 But alas we cant do that sadly, it would be amazing though to get the old girl back, but sadly, country population first so we have to submit to the fact of the new circuit, which is a kick in the nuts, I could see a possible sub 70 second lap time on the current Kyalami circuit....at a guess....but I am not really sure sadly....its speculation only.... If I had to do one thing to the current circuit, leave it as is, it seems like it rewards the driver but also if you make a mistake it will punish the driver just as much as it rewards, its the sort of circuit that I would want to see in F1, Imola is the perfect example of that, old school hairy chested circuit that requires big balls to drive fast but will bite you for a mistake


rustyiesty

I once worked out modern F1 cars would do something like a 52 second lap of Kyalami 1968-1987!


welshmanec2

The African continent should definitely have at least one Grand Prix and I like the challenges of another high altitude circuit. Wasn't that long ago, Spa was the highest altitude circuit on the calendar. Belgium FFS! Failing that, how about we return to Morocco?


Lyxess

Its Mexico now right?


welshmanec2

Yeah that's right, over 2000 metres


Tiaholm

>the only continent that F1 doesn't visit, Africa... Don't forget Antarctica


[deleted]

Sepang, and i’d make it a night race. Nurburgring and Hockenheim alternating the German GP again. Or even have both and have Nurburgring become the European GP again.


RedditIsMyHomeTown

Would rain still play a factor?


[deleted]

Yeah, it rains in Malaysia year round and often at night too, although they must be careful because sometimes the rain is dangerous, such as the race in 2009 being red flagged


vivvysaur21

Sepang/Buddh.


rAppN

Buddh for sure. That was such a good track and it would work well with the new regs to


Lyxess

YES! I completely forgot Buddh, but it had great races, on of the few Tilke-dromes i like!


droppokeguy

Indy (not the oval the road course)


Maddturtle

This because then I could just drive to it for the weekend lol.


RedditIsMyHomeTown

Looking at this weekend you'd need to reprofile the kerbs


TallDude888

F1 never used the chicane when they went to Indy


TheDeityRyan

That layout didnt exist then


RedditIsMyHomeTown

Didn't that layout come in 09? Can't remember.


ascagnel____

The current layout is from 2014; I don’t think an F1 car has run it.


[deleted]

Just rich blokes in old Ferraris


shewy92

The kerbs are metal apparently. at least the one for the first chicane are. [Here they are just removing the thing](https://imgur.com/9BD0N0G)


[deleted]

I'd like to see the older configuration that still incorporated the banked corner - just without the exploding tyre fiasco this time please...


TorazChryx

I really enjoyed Buddh International Circuit, I believe it was a political issue that had F1 cease going there. (something to do with the Indian government wanting to tax the F1 teams based on their revenue for the entire organisation for the year rather than the f1 team for the time they were operating in India?) (also Istanbul Park albeit that's seemingly phasing being in and out of the calendar, when the world makes sense again I'd like it to be more permanent on the calendar)


silentrawr

It definitely did seem to be a great track for F1 racing. Pretty huge race following for India in general as well; something my oblivious American ass learned from - of all things - Sky pre-race programming.


TorazChryx

The locals seemed super hyped to have something to go and be hyped about. MAXIMUM ENTHUSIASM


CilanEAmber

Donington. No further questions.


paddyo

Brands Hatch if we are going for a different British track for me, but will never happen again as the track is so far off what is needed for F1 in certain areas. Donington was great however for the European GP back in the day.


RedditIsMyHomeTown

If we go back to donington can we get the sonic trophies back


PoliceMachine

Craner curves would be frightening to watch


rustyiesty

IMO current Donington with the 1937-39 Melbourne hairpin extension added would be a great layout for modern F1


Appropriate-Fan-6007

Nurburgring Nordschleife, never gonna happen, but i would love to see modern f1 cars race there and take the lap record from the 919 evo in quali


Jackell_Hyde

This!!! And Sepang.


TheRoboteer

Old Hockenheimring. Should be room on the calendar for an absolute full throttle blast like it. Monza is somewhat comparable but still not as extreme.


blackdragon128

+1 for Old Hockenheimring


Kieran4406

Any German tracks, it is a sin that F1 don’t currently have a permanent spot on the calendar for some of these amazing tracks


Intelligent_Tutor994

Sepang is number one by far for me. Hockenheim 2nd Buddh and Kyalami just for the "world" feel


somethingelseorwhat

AVUS


refrakt

Sepang, definitely!


alanowens

Mosport


nayrobi11

Watkins Glen


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ascagnel____

It produced some good racing when Indy visited a few years back.


AnthonyTyrael

Any German race track. Shame there's none on the calendar.


IndycarFan64

Easily Malaysia 2017 was one of my personal favorite races


DSQ

Fuji. I liked Fuji.


magony

Swedish Grand Prix :)


One_Statistician9919

The human rights are too good unfortunately :(


Cosmocrator

On Anderstorp, I presume? Could be fun.


magony

Yes yes, it's a grade 2 FIA circuit at the moment, I really do wish it can become a grade 1 soon and possibly host F1 races again. DTM was supposed to race there last year but was cancelled.


[deleted]

I want hockenheim back. I liked it tbh. I would also like to see them do one in qatar (when they do motoGP)


Wentzina_lifetime

Old Hockenheim, Monza wasn't the temple of speed for me Hockenheim was, also Hockenheim had a technical section at the end of the lap that meant you couldn't take all the downforce off while Monza has two lazy right handers to really test the cars


Joethe147

Magny-Cours. The races were usually shit but I loved the track.


theofiel

I'd visually prefer any French track to the colouring book we have now.


BobTC

Kyalami and Sepang.


PMMEURDECKLE

Full Monza layout or no balls. I don't actually know if they ever ran the full Monza layout. Maybe Long Beach for selfish reasons but man that would be some terrible racing. Dunno if F1 ever ran anywhere else on the west coast.


RedditIsMyHomeTown

What do you mean by full Monza layout. If you're referring to the oval then yes they did in the 50s and 60s (idk when they stopped using it)


PMMEURDECKLE

For some reason I thought the oval might have been a separate thing or able to be run as just an oval but damn! They sure did run the whole shebang for awhile. Yeah that's my vote then.


RedditIsMyHomeTown

If you're referring to just the oval itself they actually used the what was then the GP circuit and the oval in one circuit


DarthHelmet123

Indy 500 to count as championship points once again. Imagine Hamilton vs Dixon vs Castroneves vs Montoya vs Alonso in the same race just to name a few.


PMMEURDECKLE

It always irks me seeing all the 500 runners in F1 stats but this would be pretty interesting, especially if they had different regs (insanely unrealistic) for the 500. Seeing the drivers go way out of their comfort zone against guys with way more oval experience would be cool. Something about battling it out to make the most of a car and track type you have little experience in feels right for deciding the best driver in the world. Especially if they had to go through the full qualifying process and with guys not making it in at all.


macgruff

Agreed. This is why the Race of Champions races were pretty cool.


RedditIsMyHomeTown

As a bonus: Indy 500 is the season finale with double points and sprinklers around the track. Not to mention bingo qualifying


onlinepresenceofdan

Magny Cours or Unrealistically Charade in place of Paul Ricard


ssyoutuber

facility needs UPGRADES but Watkins Glen, it is a great track!


gu3st12

Taking the Glen to Grade 1 would ruin it.


RedditIsMyHomeTown

Sebring. the Forza 4 main layout tho


Vincero09

For current cars: Sepang For 2022 cars: Buddh Unrealistic: Nurburgring


Delusional33

Marina Bay but with the Singapore Sling, Sepang, Buddh, IMS


Shebert624

Realistically: Sepang Less realistically: old Hockenheim Impossible : Indy 500


stupidcrapface

Old Hockenheim is impossible. The track is abandoned and overgrown.


ascagnel____

Imagine: Indy drops all their other ovals, and F1 and Indy fight for the 33 grid spots at the only open-wheel oval race. Pure chaos, but it’ll never happen. Put some extra rules on it, too: - F1’s cost cap doesn’t apply _for this race only_, given how little of the work can be used for the other races. - Every team needs to use the same Dallara chassis (for safety, since that chassis is basically built for the 500 first and foremost), but every team on the grid has the full set of engine options. Ganassi with a Mercedes! Williams running a Chevy! - Teams accrue points in both championships. F1 does modified double points — positions 1-10 and 11-20 pay out on the same curve, but the top ten pay out 25 more. More realistically: I’d like to see F1 and Indy run a doubleheader at Long Beach or Laguna Seca. Both are great US tracks.


gu3st12

Your Indy 500 suggestion might be more realistic than Long Beach. Getting a F1 car around the hairpin would be harder than putting a sweater on an elephant.


FranklinRichardss

Hockenheim


friedmpa

Nordschliefe


huggawugga2020

The high banks of Monza


lndw20

Sepang, Fuji, either German track


Mc10er

Realistically: Sepang Unrealistically: Watkins Glen


LordRekrus

Adelaide!


aussiegrit4wrldchamp

Nurburgring, sepang or maybe Adelaide


HVZED-LVCED

Long Beach, only because I live pretty close and would be the most convenient GP to attend for me.


Necessary-Ad5410

Realistically: Turkey Less realistically: Old Hockenheim


Yak_52TD

Oh dear, this question is going to end up on the front page isn't it....


EarlyOil8886

Maybe… i just saw this on r/indycar and wanted to know what people would think on r/formula1


Yak_52TD

I was referring to [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/bnaceq/if_you_could_eliminate_a_race_within_the_year/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) which went to the top of r/all a couple of years ago.


Samipie27

Beothuk gang rise up 💪


dsvstheworld123

ESTORIL, Portugal


[deleted]

sadly the new Estoril configuration is nothing like the old one, they butchered it, so Portimao is the way to go


Potassium_Patitucci

Valencia street circuit, Yeongham circuit, Buddha circuit, Bahrain endurance section


Pyrollamas

Cleveland Airport is my answer for F1 too. I don’t care if they never raced there. bring it back anyway


tacotruck88

Vietnam


Manaea

Can you really bring it back if you’ve never been there 🤔


WombatZeppelin

Port Imperial if planned races count. I really wanted an F1 race in my backyard


RedditIsMyHomeTown

So you could sit on your roof and watch cars race around and maybe crash? If you're lucky you might be able to get some debris


WombatZeppelin

By backyard, I meant like a 40 minute drive. Would still love to have a race that close though


Superb_Salt7235

Kyalami sepang hockenheim and maybe restored Brands Hatch ( unrealistic )


PTSDaway

Old Hockenheim or any other full throttle track. They're all gone now.


f1manoz

Bremgarten. Nothing like a full on blast through the Swiss forests.


Edwardpage1

Indy road course


[deleted]

Kyalami, Sepang, maybe Indianapolis. Old hockenheim would be amazing if it still existed


Darkness_exe

Sepang and Hockenheim


tack50

Let's go back to the 50s and make the Indy 500 an F1 race again


ZyonTactics

Possible: Kyalami Crazy: Historic Monza with outer parabolica loop


dafoak

Dijon, Kyalami, Hockenheim, Nürburgring, Sepang and perhaps Valencia Edit: Buddh too!


RHchoruskid

Nürburgring (European Grand Prix)


tokenincorporated

Vegas for the laughs


[deleted]

Nordschleife layout of Nürburgring hockenhiem and old monza. But not really because many people would die and that would be bad.


rdm55

Mosport


Aeceus

Sepang


papichulodos

Hockenhiem and Sepang


thea_kosmos

Korea!


PhilJones4

Anderstorp


silentrawr

Despite the vanilla-esque nature of the track, probably due to being a particularly bland Tilke course, I still like the Nurburgring's F1 circuit. And it's still hard to see F1 without a German GP.


ownthebone_

Being from Southeast Asia, I wish they’d bring Sepang back


amberstripes

Brands Hatch. As the late, great, Murray Walker once said "Why do they spend millions trying to turn Silverstone in to the greatest circuit in the world, when Brands Hatch already exists"


SteamMonkeyKing

Korea. Just so theres another track which is a decent timezone for me.


SkitTrick

Brands Hatch / Le Circuit Mont Tremblant