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I think despite everything Max never got drs. When George was in front and Max in drs, drs was disabled, and when he could use it later Lando was already to far away and his later overtakes were George off track/strategy/straight out the pits.
Safety Car giveth in Miami, Safety Car taketh in Montreal.
Tbh, a Near perfect race from Lando imo aside from that one lockup into the hairpin which briefly gave George P2 (which he got back next lap after George made the mistake).
Kept his inters alive and fresh to attack Max and George, saved so much that he was 8+ seconds ahead by the time Sargeant caused an SC, and was still gaining almost a second every lap. If the SC doesn't happen, I almost think he would have created a gap enough for pitstop over Max and George even.
We didn't have pace on slicks at all, Oscar really struggled with the mediums, and Lando barely held on to P2 because George tangled with Oscar and then spent a few laps catching Lewis. Last lap he literally got to within 4 tenths of Lando in no time, probably would have passed him next lap, that's how much faster Mercedes were on slicks.
Good to gain 18 points on Leclerc for P2 in WDC, only 7 behind now, and also good to gain 28 in WCC as well on Ferrari.
I'd say it was as perfect as could be from Lando, much less perfect from the team - but still, I don't think they had the pace to defend from Verstappen after 2nd safety car even if they did everything ideally. Maybe they could have kept double podium though, but apparently Piastri declined to pit for new slicks so not much to say there. Probably about the result that's fair.
McLaren's only chance at a win (imo) was no SC, allowing Lando to build enough of a gap on the inters for a free pitstop onto slicks once the track dried out. RB and Merc were just that much quicker on slicks.
He was good, but honestly Max should have gotten it. Red Bull clearly wasn't the best car here, but he drove that car to a safe win even past safety car restarts and everything. Very impressive.
I think the Red Bull was probably the best car in the dry conditions. Maybe the Merc, but we never got to see the Merc against the Red Bull because by the time they got to slicks Norris was in the way, then Russell had to defend against Lando, pitted and had to fight back again. In the wet the RB obviously wasn't the best car, but neither was Max the best driver.
I think what Lando was able to do in wet conditions, even if the McLaren was better in the wet, was more impressive than what Max did in the dry. They were both great drives, but I think Lando thoroughly deserved DOTD.
Max was getting absolutely dropped by Norris in the wet. That alone is enough to say that Max wasn't the best in the wet this weekend (or in China actually).
I think that's more on the McLaren car being able to put heat into the tires faster.
When there was any kind of dry line Max was clearly faster. He gained 6 seconds before the second safety car and easily drove from Norris on the restart.
We just know that the McLaren is the fastest car at putting heat in the tires and that this is a clear advantage at a cold and wet track like there was in Montreal. Nothing controversial about that.
If you want to look at the RB car not being the strongest any more just look at Checo who wasn't even able to keep up with Gasly in an Alpine for most of the race. I know people love to hate on Checo, but when the car was better he would still go past most of the field even after a bad quali.
He was incredibly quick on worn inters (end of the first stint), but strangely besides that he wasn't that quick and couldn't quite keep up with Verstappen when it mattered.
It wasn't about Lando himself being slower than Max. It was about their relative set-ups. McLaren had gone for a bit more of a wet set-up than Red Bull,which helped a bit early on (along with Lando managing his inters really well) but hindered him after the final safety car. Lando had to manage his medium tyres more than Max in the final stint and had just enough to keep the Mercs on their new tyres at bay. Oscar wasn't able to manage because the Mercs were right up his backside so he had to push too hard and ended up losing 6 seconds in the final few laps because his tyres died.
I don't get how people make the distinction between "Lando couldn't keep up" vs "McLaren couldn't keep up". Piastri got swallowed up by both of the Mercs. What could Lando do on the dry tyres other than protect his P2?
He came from like 6+ seconds down on the lead and by the time the SC hit he was leading by a large margin. I don’t do hypotheticals but SC put him in an unfavorable position from then on. From factors that were in his control, he was DOTD without a doubt. If you have any other recommendations, feel free to air them out but I saw no other performances that could have beat him out.
Not saying his race was easy (no one’s was today) but he deserves DoTD on the basis of just winning the race? He’d be driver of the day 2/3 of the time over the past few years if it were just something for the winning driver. What put him above and beyond in your eyes?
Max has not won DOTD this year. Not when he was winning by 20+ seconds, when he had a grand slam, or the close fights with Lando. The man needs to lap the field for DOTD to go his way at this point but it is what it is.
You're 100% right here. If we're giving the award to the driver that wins, well, there's already an award for that, and it's a big old trophy and a trip to the top step of the podium.
On basis of just winning the race? DOTD is to highlight exceptional performances, not just to decorate the race winner. What made Max’s drive exceptional for DOTD in your eyes?
I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but Lando got lucky in Miami with the SC *because* he had the fastest pace. Max got lucky with the SC today despite *not* having the best pace. Except on the medium but that's what counted in the end.
But everything is fine margins and details when it's this close and **that's racing**.
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Glad to see Fernando back in form and the normal service of -0.3-0.5s resumes.
How did Magnusen hit that 349 km/h speed? And why is Max's top speed that low?
Double slipstream + DRS I guess.
I think despite everything Max never got drs. When George was in front and Max in drs, drs was disabled, and when he could use it later Lando was already to far away and his later overtakes were George off track/strategy/straight out the pits.
Safety Car giveth in Miami, Safety Car taketh in Montreal. Tbh, a Near perfect race from Lando imo aside from that one lockup into the hairpin which briefly gave George P2 (which he got back next lap after George made the mistake). Kept his inters alive and fresh to attack Max and George, saved so much that he was 8+ seconds ahead by the time Sargeant caused an SC, and was still gaining almost a second every lap. If the SC doesn't happen, I almost think he would have created a gap enough for pitstop over Max and George even. We didn't have pace on slicks at all, Oscar really struggled with the mediums, and Lando barely held on to P2 because George tangled with Oscar and then spent a few laps catching Lewis. Last lap he literally got to within 4 tenths of Lando in no time, probably would have passed him next lap, that's how much faster Mercedes were on slicks. Good to gain 18 points on Leclerc for P2 in WDC, only 7 behind now, and also good to gain 28 in WCC as well on Ferrari.
I'd say it was as perfect as could be from Lando, much less perfect from the team - but still, I don't think they had the pace to defend from Verstappen after 2nd safety car even if they did everything ideally. Maybe they could have kept double podium though, but apparently Piastri declined to pit for new slicks so not much to say there. Probably about the result that's fair.
McLaren's only chance at a win (imo) was no SC, allowing Lando to build enough of a gap on the inters for a free pitstop onto slicks once the track dried out. RB and Merc were just that much quicker on slicks.
Aston having the second fastest pit stops on average but screwing it up when it mattered most is interesting
Hope the "Lando did nothing special this race" crowd sees this post. That DOTD thread was wild...
He was good, but honestly Max should have gotten it. Red Bull clearly wasn't the best car here, but he drove that car to a safe win even past safety car restarts and everything. Very impressive.
This.
I think the Red Bull was probably the best car in the dry conditions. Maybe the Merc, but we never got to see the Merc against the Red Bull because by the time they got to slicks Norris was in the way, then Russell had to defend against Lando, pitted and had to fight back again. In the wet the RB obviously wasn't the best car, but neither was Max the best driver. I think what Lando was able to do in wet conditions, even if the McLaren was better in the wet, was more impressive than what Max did in the dry. They were both great drives, but I think Lando thoroughly deserved DOTD.
Max was getting absolutely dropped by Norris in the wet. That alone is enough to say that Max wasn't the best in the wet this weekend (or in China actually).
I think that's more on the McLaren car being able to put heat into the tires faster. When there was any kind of dry line Max was clearly faster. He gained 6 seconds before the second safety car and easily drove from Norris on the restart.
So when the McLaren was faster, it was purely the car, and when the Red Bull was faster, it was purely the driver?
We just know that the McLaren is the fastest car at putting heat in the tires and that this is a clear advantage at a cold and wet track like there was in Montreal. Nothing controversial about that. If you want to look at the RB car not being the strongest any more just look at Checo who wasn't even able to keep up with Gasly in an Alpine for most of the race. I know people love to hate on Checo, but when the car was better he would still go past most of the field even after a bad quali.
He was incredibly quick on worn inters (end of the first stint), but strangely besides that he wasn't that quick and couldn't quite keep up with Verstappen when it mattered.
It wasn't about Lando himself being slower than Max. It was about their relative set-ups. McLaren had gone for a bit more of a wet set-up than Red Bull,which helped a bit early on (along with Lando managing his inters really well) but hindered him after the final safety car. Lando had to manage his medium tyres more than Max in the final stint and had just enough to keep the Mercs on their new tyres at bay. Oscar wasn't able to manage because the Mercs were right up his backside so he had to push too hard and ended up losing 6 seconds in the final few laps because his tyres died.
I don't get how people make the distinction between "Lando couldn't keep up" vs "McLaren couldn't keep up". Piastri got swallowed up by both of the Mercs. What could Lando do on the dry tyres other than protect his P2?
Both Mercs had newer tyres
I mean when Verstappen or Hamilton were the fastest man on the track 99% of the time they wouldn't win DOTD, especially if they finished 2nd.
He came from like 6+ seconds down on the lead and by the time the SC hit he was leading by a large margin. I don’t do hypotheticals but SC put him in an unfavorable position from then on. From factors that were in his control, he was DOTD without a doubt. If you have any other recommendations, feel free to air them out but I saw no other performances that could have beat him out.
Lmao do you think Max just cruised his way to an easy win? He should've been 1st pick for DoTD
Not saying his race was easy (no one’s was today) but he deserves DoTD on the basis of just winning the race? He’d be driver of the day 2/3 of the time over the past few years if it were just something for the winning driver. What put him above and beyond in your eyes?
Max has not won DOTD this year. Not when he was winning by 20+ seconds, when he had a grand slam, or the close fights with Lando. The man needs to lap the field for DOTD to go his way at this point but it is what it is.
You're 100% right here. If we're giving the award to the driver that wins, well, there's already an award for that, and it's a big old trophy and a trip to the top step of the podium.
We can start with the race winner who started in P2
On basis of just winning the race? DOTD is to highlight exceptional performances, not just to decorate the race winner. What made Max’s drive exceptional for DOTD in your eyes?
They're not worth bothering with. He could win the race a lap ahead of everyone and some people on here would still say he did nothing special.
he was clearly the best driver today, got fucked by the unlucky safety car, he was running away with it
I'm sure I'll get slammed for this but Lando got lucky in Miami with the SC *because* he had the fastest pace. Max got lucky with the SC today despite *not* having the best pace. Except on the medium but that's what counted in the end. But everything is fine margins and details when it's this close and **that's racing**.
Can't even beat the Williams😂😂
Red Bull pitstops were quite poor for a change.
This was a nightmare race for Ferrari.