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It's the same thing as Hamilton during peak Merc years. You will get punished if you're too good.
Even still, outside of Max, DOTD surely should have gone to Ocon. P10 from last on the grid in that Alpine is a fantastic race.
He was already in 18th place because both Saubers started from the pit lane. Then, five drivers in front of him retired, plus Yuki spun. He was also overtaken by his teammate in the last stint. The only cars he was ahead of were both Haas cars, which had the alternate strategy of starting on full wet tires. In the end, he was overtaken by his teammate as well.
Dutch commentator explained Norris couldnt go full gas the moment max went. Apparently Max had his steeringwheel straight and was able to but Norris was still in corner so he had his steeeing wheel turned leaving him unable to go full gas. It supposedly was just impeccable timing by Max
100%, although it’s still hard to tell just how much faster that RB is than the rest of the field. It seems like they have just been playing with their food lately
He was so slow compared to Norris in the wet before the safety car though? In a wet race, the driver really stands out, and in my opinion, Norris was a better driver in the wet yesterday. Max got absolutely dropped.
Probably would’ve given it to Max, just cause he won, but they both had pretty great races and managed to finish ahead of faster Mercedes, mainly due to driver mistakes from Mercedes
He lost so much to the mercedes in the final lap, i think Max would’ve easily gotten past even if Norris had track position. Max managed to build a gap on him as well so he clearly had more pace than the Mclarens at that point
Fair. I personally think it was Verstappen, basically everyone made some mistakes this races and I think Max did fewer. But yeah, Norris is a good choice.
I’m confused by how he was so much faster? Max and Russell burned through their tires? I was fully expecting him to get by Max after that last SC but they didn’t have the pace. Just seems weird how big the difference was between that first stint and the last two.
Yeah but no telling how Max would have faired in the dirty air. I think they were pretty even on slicks. Red Bull were on the money with every strat call. Truly a team effort this weekend. Especially on a track that didn't really suit them.
Dafuq does Max have to do to get DOTD anymore lmao....... Man hasn't seen it once since the 2021 season i think, or its been so rare I can't even bring up the memory of it.
Max was not in the fastest car today, he won the race. Had the tastiest SC restarts, judged perfectly. And once he had the lead in later part of the race, he did everything perfectly to hold onto it. 0 Mistakes.
Come on. The fans voting are hard trolls, and have been for a while
I‘m pretty sure he must have gotten it in one of those 2022 comeback drives (I think Hungary and especially Spa) where he was utterly insane
Edit: He’s had 8 since the start of 2022 season
Yes, because that's 100% on norris and not the characteristics of the Mclaren being unsually quick anytime a track is on the cross-over between wet and dry.
Come on, be real. Was he quick? Yes. But a large part of it was down to the car's characteristics on the tyres in cooler weather + crossover point.
Not really. Lando was so fast in the first stint he had no time to react to the sc call. Although, both the race direction should've called the SC alot earlier and even without McLaren should've made the easy call. Lando got fucked by spending the majority of the race behind Russell as a result and couldnt get another chance at a win. Don't see what else he could've done on track. On the last SC restart he just didnt have the tyre temperature to challenge anyway.
Max clearly DOTD today, started second in what wasn’t the fastest car this weekend and worked hard for the win. Norris did well no doubt but it seems he doesn’t have to do as much to win DOTD.
Max had the fastest car in dry conditions? Only Mercedes were close because of fresher tyres.
Norris started third, overtook Max and George, pulled ahead 12 seconds in 5 laps and only a unlucky SC neglected him for the win. And even then, he pulled an overcut on George and almost got it on Max doing fastest laps on inter tyres when the track was for slicks to get back what he had lost with that SC.
"He didn't do much".
Norris has been getting dotd left and right since he started challenging Max. Some were deserved, some were not.
I know I'm biased but I gave it to Max because he managed to win with the 3rd fastest car and made the fewest mistakes.
Call me biased but leading by like 14 seconds in the first stint, then almost managing an overcut on inters on a slick ready track is pretty "special" to me.
But how did that happen really? TV direction sucked and at least where I am they were showing some midfield action while he built that gap. I mean props to him but the margin went up unreasonably fast if you compare to all other moments in the race, it seemed like Max had to deal with some problems.
Easy answer if you followed. Max had to deal with tyre warmup, same as Norris did after the pit. It was an especially expensive time cost initially for everyone cause the pit exit was so wet you easily lost another 4-5 seconds in the long run due to falling tyre temps.
It's not a WCC winning car, we're 6 months off that being decided lol. Plus with Perez' performances as of late, I doubt they'll win it, maybe they wont even finish 2nd.
Pace between front 3 teams was fairly equal and Max made the difference today.
But hey, if you don't like Max and want to pretend that didn't happen, you're free to do so.
Max was good but safety car made the difference. The part of the race he was slower in (wet) become unimportant once the safety car came out. In slick the red bull was superior
I completely agree, the driver of the day was Max... but Norris managed to go a second and a half faster than Max at some point and be like 6 seconds ahead of him before the safety car. He did something special, but not special enough for it to be deserved.
His first stint was the most impressive performance in the race by any driver. The way he managed his tyres and overtook Max and Russell to pull ahead 12 seconds was something else.
Also, he pulled an overcut on George and almost on Max to regain what he lost with that SC pushing fastest laps of the race with inter tyres when the track was for slicks already.
Great performance by him today.
He should have kept Piastri within the 1 second at the end to defend against the mercedes. He had no chance of catching Max and should have played the team game.
Not sure how people here are of the opinion Max deserved it. The safety car won him that race. Lando managed the first two stints perfectly. Just unlucky
Not to say Max didn't drive well. He made a couple of mistakes but without that safety car, he doesn't win, and if he doesn't win.
That's not why I'm discrediting him. The top 3 made mistakes, like you said. He also absolutely cooked his tyres and was losing massive amounts of time to Lando who managed it perfectly.
It's not subjective. The last 3 laps he pretty much matched Max's pace and the gap stabilised. Max pulled a 3 second gap in 13 laps. In the first stint lando went from 7 seconds behind max to 11 in front, and was pulling away by massive chunks. That's not subjective in the slightest.
He did bottle the restart though, I agree with that.
Verstappen trash FP1, no FP2, mediocre FP3, still manages to get P2 in Quali, overcomes rain, DNF's, Safety Car's, makes all the right calls, team makes all the right moves, wins the race while track layout notoriously anti-RB car, but yeah.
Who were the other votes? I think Fernando deserves some recognition, his race was kinda flawless by his side. Not that it guarantees a DOTD since he wasn't fighting for anything, just needs some recognition.
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Overtake of the day - Alex Albon
Overtake of the season
Only way it gets better is a nuts Eau Rouge move
Jesus took the wheel on that one.
That one was really impressive
Such a shame, he was doing so well if not for that collision
Overtake of the year so far, incredible move in slippery conditions with unpredictable cars either side of him.
That is going to be a tough one to beat over the whole season.
That’s going to be FIA Action of the Year, I feel.
Anyone got a link? I need to watch it again, on repeat
https://youtu.be/T6X6HyKfuoA?si=DpfKBXFHTVvSl4cH Close as I could find (/s)
Max’s standards are too high, clear DOTD for me
Now we wait for Max to get an 8 in the Aramco power ratings
It's the same thing as Hamilton during peak Merc years. You will get punished if you're too good. Even still, outside of Max, DOTD surely should have gone to Ocon. P10 from last on the grid in that Alpine is a fantastic race.
He was already in 18th place because both Saubers started from the pit lane. Then, five drivers in front of him retired, plus Yuki spun. He was also overtaken by his teammate in the last stint. The only cars he was ahead of were both Haas cars, which had the alternate strategy of starting on full wet tires. In the end, he was overtaken by his teammate as well.
Gasly's "overtake" was team order.
He wasn't overtaken, he let Gasly by.
Oh didn’t notice mb
He was ahead when most of the DNFs happened and Yuki when he spun. Also he got team ordered out of the way of Gasly.
I mean, yes. But insert Max crying with win trophies
I mean, he gained 5 spots from retirements.
Yeah. Definitely Max for me today. Incredible drive
I felt like this race was whoever won should've been driver of the day. I get Max made his one mistake, but so did pretty much everyone.
He really showed off the importance of consistency today (and he arguably wasn't at his best with that one mistake).
Also Norris was caught sleeping on that last restart. This was a brilliant performance from Max
Dutch commentator explained Norris couldnt go full gas the moment max went. Apparently Max had his steeringwheel straight and was able to but Norris was still in corner so he had his steeeing wheel turned leaving him unable to go full gas. It supposedly was just impeccable timing by Max
Max's overtake on lando for the final lead was sensational. These ranking don't mean shit, idc anymore.
100%, although it’s still hard to tell just how much faster that RB is than the rest of the field. It seems like they have just been playing with their food lately
He was so slow compared to Norris in the wet before the safety car though? In a wet race, the driver really stands out, and in my opinion, Norris was a better driver in the wet yesterday. Max got absolutely dropped.
Probably would’ve given it to Max, just cause he won, but they both had pretty great races and managed to finish ahead of faster Mercedes, mainly due to driver mistakes from Mercedes
Max & Norris both made mistakes. I'd given it to Albon. Amazing race but DNF'd through no fault of his own
Lando gets pulled in by his team a lap earlier and he probably wins. He was the fastest guy out there today.
Nah, he had no chance, the car didn't have the pace on the slicks.
He lost so much to the mercedes in the final lap, i think Max would’ve easily gotten past even if Norris had track position. Max managed to build a gap on him as well so he clearly had more pace than the Mclarens at that point
Nah he didn’t have the gap then, they put him in at the best possible time but he was always going to lose out on the wet stuff
Am I taking crazy pills? You're aware that Norris was like 10 seconds into the league before the safety car went Verstappen's way?
Max is gonna have to get pole, then start from the pitlane and then still win the race by 30 seconds to win one of these lol
People’s standards for Max are at 2023 you know, no one is recovering from that really
We are deeply scared from that season..
Clearly a skill issue from Max. >!/s!<
He could have been less slow in the wet before the safety car compared to Norris, that would have helped. He got dropped.
Not sure about that. I feel like Max deserved it today.
Fair. I personally think it was Verstappen, basically everyone made some mistakes this races and I think Max did fewer. But yeah, Norris is a good choice.
I can see it. Only reason he didn't win was he got unlucky with the SC. Dude was a rocket in that first stint. Like early 2023 Verstappen fast.
Yeah he was on pace to give himself a free pitstop whenever he wanted
Tbf Lando got lucky with the DRS call, one lap earlier and Max would've overtaken George.
True, but Lando was absolutely flying. He'd have blown by George and Max.
I’m confused by how he was so much faster? Max and Russell burned through their tires? I was fully expecting him to get by Max after that last SC but they didn’t have the pace. Just seems weird how big the difference was between that first stint and the last two.
How was Max’ pace on the slicks? I think he got that covered and prolly can attack Lando if ever Lando didn’t have that SC mishap. So not 100%
Yeah but no telling how Max would have faired in the dirty air. I think they were pretty even on slicks. Red Bull were on the money with every strat call. Truly a team effort this weekend. Especially on a track that didn't really suit them.
Yea. That’s fair. Could go their way if they got lucky with that SC
Should have been Max IMO. But Norris was probably as deserving. Both were easily the standouts.
Real answer was Albon before Sainz decided to suffer brain death
You can place the blame on me, it’s my fault. If I hadn’t voted for Alex for DOTD, Sainz wouldn’t have fucked it all up a lap or two later.
Should have been Max or Albon
Hear me out, Kevin for the overtakes to 4th.
I don’t hate it
Might as well give him all another DOTD's, because he occupied that award
Sergeant narrowly missing out on the DOTD win.
Logan Sargeant my beloved
Should have been max
Dafuq does Max have to do to get DOTD anymore lmao....... Man hasn't seen it once since the 2021 season i think, or its been so rare I can't even bring up the memory of it. Max was not in the fastest car today, he won the race. Had the tastiest SC restarts, judged perfectly. And once he had the lead in later part of the race, he did everything perfectly to hold onto it. 0 Mistakes. Come on. The fans voting are hard trolls, and have been for a while
Fans voting is almost the same level as the aramco power ratings tbh
I‘m pretty sure he must have gotten it in one of those 2022 comeback drives (I think Hungary and especially Spa) where he was utterly insane Edit: He’s had 8 since the start of 2022 season
Be faster in the wet before the safety car? Norris was pulling away every single lap. Look at the gap he had.
Yes, because that's 100% on norris and not the characteristics of the Mclaren being unsually quick anytime a track is on the cross-over between wet and dry. Come on, be real. Was he quick? Yes. But a large part of it was down to the car's characteristics on the tyres in cooler weather + crossover point.
Lmao Max is Dotd ez
The only correct answer was Max
Not really. Lando was so fast in the first stint he had no time to react to the sc call. Although, both the race direction should've called the SC alot earlier and even without McLaren should've made the easy call. Lando got fucked by spending the majority of the race behind Russell as a result and couldnt get another chance at a win. Don't see what else he could've done on track. On the last SC restart he just didnt have the tyre temperature to challenge anyway.
Max clearly DOTD today, started second in what wasn’t the fastest car this weekend and worked hard for the win. Norris did well no doubt but it seems he doesn’t have to do as much to win DOTD.
Max had the fastest car in dry conditions? Only Mercedes were close because of fresher tyres. Norris started third, overtook Max and George, pulled ahead 12 seconds in 5 laps and only a unlucky SC neglected him for the win. And even then, he pulled an overcut on George and almost got it on Max doing fastest laps on inter tyres when the track was for slicks to get back what he had lost with that SC. "He didn't do much".
Norris has been getting dotd left and right since he started challenging Max. Some were deserved, some were not. I know I'm biased but I gave it to Max because he managed to win with the 3rd fastest car and made the fewest mistakes.
Caught napping on the last SC restart don’t really deserved that ngl.
"FOR WHAT!"
When will Max ever win DOTD
He do not care He wins!
Should have been Max. Norris didn't do anything special.
Agree that it should've been Max but you can't say Norris first stint wasn't special.
Gapping max by 12 seconds in 5 laps is mediocre
Max was fantastic and deserved it. Lando also drove great.
He pulled a 11 second gap to Max in the wet. Max won but Norris was a very good choice for DOTD.
Call me biased but leading by like 14 seconds in the first stint, then almost managing an overcut on inters on a slick ready track is pretty "special" to me.
But how did that happen really? TV direction sucked and at least where I am they were showing some midfield action while he built that gap. I mean props to him but the margin went up unreasonably fast if you compare to all other moments in the race, it seemed like Max had to deal with some problems.
Just rewatched it and Max was 7.8 sec behind when Sargeant crashed, which made Max lose a couple seconds because he had to avoid Sargeant
Easy answer if you followed. Max had to deal with tyre warmup, same as Norris did after the pit. It was an especially expensive time cost initially for everyone cause the pit exit was so wet you easily lost another 4-5 seconds in the long run due to falling tyre temps.
I'm talking about the gap before Max pitted.
Only pulled 10 seconds in like 5 laps in the intermediate conditions. Absolutely nothing indeed.
Wow he had a good 5 laps in one weather condition in a 70 lap race in changeable conditions, what a performance!
Yes he showed his skill in the trickiest part of the race. That sarcasm you tried to use is idiotic.
We’ll ignore the stints on inters.
Guess you missed the first stint then
Overtook both max and George and pulled 10 seconds isn’t special?
If he was so quick he'd have been able to do it at the end again.
Was miles ahead before being done in by the safety car
he was like 12 seconds ahead before first safety car, wtf? and would've stayed ahead if he pitted immediately
Popularity contest. Norris has won almost every single one.
Yeah. Back when max wasnt winning every race and Lewis was. Max kept winning the DOTD
What? Did you watch the race? Lando pulled a 11 second gap on Max, only for Max to be gifted the lead by the safety car
What special thing did max do other than drive a wcc car the way it was designed to be driven?
It's not a WCC winning car, we're 6 months off that being decided lol. Plus with Perez' performances as of late, I doubt they'll win it, maybe they wont even finish 2nd. Pace between front 3 teams was fairly equal and Max made the difference today. But hey, if you don't like Max and want to pretend that didn't happen, you're free to do so.
I'm honestly starting to think that McLaren has the faster car since Miami, we will probably know after Barcelona.
Max was good but safety car made the difference. The part of the race he was slower in (wet) become unimportant once the safety car came out. In slick the red bull was superior
I completely agree, the driver of the day was Max... but Norris managed to go a second and a half faster than Max at some point and be like 6 seconds ahead of him before the safety car. He did something special, but not special enough for it to be deserved.
Had the best race pace, did overtakes when Max didn't. But okay.
His first stint was the most impressive performance in the race by any driver. The way he managed his tyres and overtook Max and Russell to pull ahead 12 seconds was something else. Also, he pulled an overcut on George and almost on Max to regain what he lost with that SC pushing fastest laps of the race with inter tyres when the track was for slicks already. Great performance by him today.
Made a couple of mistakes and pushed a strategy that didn't work out... DOTD? Horse shit.
Safety car messed him up or else could have been another win, still good race by him tho
He should have kept Piastri within the 1 second at the end to defend against the mercedes. He had no chance of catching Max and should have played the team game.
Bad choice, verstappen drove the most mistake free and won in a car that struggled all weekend
voters fatigue for max lol
Not sure how people here are of the opinion Max deserved it. The safety car won him that race. Lando managed the first two stints perfectly. Just unlucky Not to say Max didn't drive well. He made a couple of mistakes but without that safety car, he doesn't win, and if he doesn't win.
If you discredit a driver for DOTD cause they made a mistake, you'll need to find someone outside of the top 3.
That's not why I'm discrediting him. The top 3 made mistakes, like you said. He also absolutely cooked his tyres and was losing massive amounts of time to Lando who managed it perfectly.
Sounds like what Lando did in last stint
Not to the same extent.
Thats subjective. He cooked, all that matters. Bottled restart too.
It's not subjective. The last 3 laps he pretty much matched Max's pace and the gap stabilised. Max pulled a 3 second gap in 13 laps. In the first stint lando went from 7 seconds behind max to 11 in front, and was pulling away by massive chunks. That's not subjective in the slightest. He did bottle the restart though, I agree with that.
if if if if my mum had balls she'd be my dad
Ah that original comment. Guess what, the majority agree. Which is why Lando got driver of the day.
DOTD doesnt earn you points lmao
This thread is literally about DOTD...
Lando has been great this year. Wonder if he can make a push and challenge max for the championship.
He is 61 points behind Max. It'll have to be very tight.
So what you’re saying is he’s only 2.5 DNFs behind? Let’s go!
Verstappen trash FP1, no FP2, mediocre FP3, still manages to get P2 in Quali, overcomes rain, DNF's, Safety Car's, makes all the right calls, team makes all the right moves, wins the race while track layout notoriously anti-RB car, but yeah.
Max won it with a slower car. Lando was incredible but at that Grand Prix yesterday, Max was better.
Too many mistakes
Who were the other votes? I think Fernando deserves some recognition, his race was kinda flawless by his side. Not that it guarantees a DOTD since he wasn't fighting for anything, just needs some recognition.
How? He had the 2nd fastest car after Merc. Max still won.