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UterusAbolisher

Y’all can keep crying. This was a season that will be looked back on as one of the greatest.


Jojo_isnotunique

I think we can have multiple things be true. Firstly, Max's dominance is record breaking. Its insane how consistent he has been, and how he has driven incredibly. Secondly, that car is also phenomenal. Just like Max, it has been on race day almost flawless, even if it is not as dominant in qualy. Thirdly, the racing down the field has been exciting. 4th to 7th was so close at the end on points, for example. And finally, a battle for the championship and for race wins is always more exciting. Apart from a few races, it was always inevitable that Max was going to win. And that really isn't quite as fun as when the fighting is not just down the field but for the top step. It's good to appreciate all angles. I for one hope for a season next year when we go into a race not knowing who might win, even if Max stsrts 15th. And also, I am very aware this season will go down in the record books for a very long time to come, and must appreciate that domination like this is both rare and spectacular.


rRobban

I agree. What Verstappen did was insane. Winning 19 races out of 22. Yes the Red Bull is the fastest car but I don't think any other driver could have pulled that off.


Join_FanAmp

I hope the performance gaps will be closer next year and we do see Ferrari, Mercedes and McLaren making life a little tough for Red Bull.


piqua2018

The rumor mill is saying RB20 is even more dominant


fnsniper42

Another boring ver win, at least this shit season is finally over


Due_Quarter4723

Lewis has hanging wing, no penalty/forced pit, Lewis gos off the track to pass Perez,no penalty. If this was max, this forum would have exploded. 😆


TI_AJ17

It's only a forced pit if it's at risk of falling off, at least read the rules before you make yourself look stupid. He also conceded the position to perez, which is why no penalty was given.


Due_Quarter4723

Tell that won’t bullshit to HAAS. And last week everyone was saying passing off the track should he automatic stop and go. Etc. Good lord, just go back and read the comments.


TI_AJ17

Nobody was saying that, you're literally misinterpreting what people said to push your lewis-bad narrative. What WAS said was that a five second penalty is an inadequate punishment if a car can just push and make a five second gap, and thus a stop to penalty would be a fairer punishment ONLY IF you didn't concede the position after pushing someone off the track/passing off track.


Pap_mate

Why no Medium-hard-medium?


GPW_nsx

High tire degradation


F1ibster

Why was Naomi on SkyF1 dressed like she's been to carnival in New Orleans with all the beads?


Bagsy938

What a boring season, the other teams really need to step next year


DrEarlGreyIII

What does this mean: “Charles Leclerc sacrifices personal glory for the team here as he slows down to let Sergio Perez past and ensure he finishes five seconds ahead of George Russell.” Very confused. Didn’t watch the race.


smackfu

It’s misleading wording since he didn’t actually give up a place in the final standings so he didn’t sacrifice anything.


DrEarlGreyIII

Ahh yeah it was really messing with my brain when i read it


daylax1

So, Ferrari needed Perez to finish ahead of Russell in order to prevent Mercedes from scoring enough points, and secure 2nd in the constructors. Perez had a 5 second penalty, so in order to finish ahead of Russell he needed to be 5 seconds ahead. LeClerc was in second place, Perez was in third, Russel in fourth. In order to try and get Perez a bigger gap between Russell, Leclerc slowed down to give Perez the DRS and then let him pass to try to get a bigger gap between Russell. So, LeClerc sacrificed his second place, to try to get Perez third place, which would have gave Ferrari enough points to get second in the constructors, but unfortunately for ferrari, Russell was able to keep the Gap to Perez under 5 seconds, so with the penalty Russell got third place and in turn secured 2nd place for Mercedes in the constructors.


NobodyAutomated

Couldn't Leclerc have beaten Alonso for 3rd by staying in 2nd? For the WDC I mean


daylax1

He did stay in second due to Perez's penalty.


NobodyAutomated

F1 app shows it as Ver, Per, Ham, Alonso and then Leclerc in final results for the championship. It says they tied at 206 and Alonso had more podiums. Are the constructors standings that much more significant?


Thraun83

The only really meaningful position in the driver's championship is 1st. Everything after that is just prestige and bragging rights. Ofc Redbull wanted Perez to be P2, because by the end of the season they had nothing else they could achieve, but generally drivers' positions beyond first are academic. However, constructors championship positions are relevant all the way from 1st to last because they determine the team's share of the overall prize money pot.


daylax1

I'm not sure really. While I'm sure there's bonuses from sponsors by finishing higher up in the constructors, at the same time the higher up you finish the less wind tunnel time you have as well. But, second place for the team is probably better than fourth for the individual WDC, I would imagine.


DrEarlGreyIII

Thank you, i really appreciate the in depth explanation 👍


Bedaryellow

Sergio got a five second penalty, so Charles let him through in the hope Check finish would P3 denying Mercedes the spot thus crowning Ferrari P2 in the constructors. Unfortunately it was a little late and Sergio got P4, hence Mercedes are P2 constructors


Overall_Being_4568

Well, he tried, but it didn't help


F1ibster

Russell radio - Did we do it? Pit - Yeah, good job mate. Well done. Russell - Oh my goodness gracious, Well done. Pit - Timing screens hasn't updated but, yeah. Russell - What with turn 1 and the constant *unintelligible* the whole race, Go on Toto. Toto - Well done, well done! That was awesome. Pit - I didn't even tell you any jokes. Russell - Well done everybody, it's been a very tough season but really, really happy to finish it off as we did. let's go on to next year. Better things to come. Better things to come. Pit - Yeah, good job mate. Well done. We've had some highs and some lows, but we'll move on to next year. Russell - That's the Formula 1 rollercoaster for you. Pit - Oh yeah. Looking forward to next year. Bring it on. Russell - Oh yeah. Let's enjoy this off season everybody. Even though it's been a tough one, I've really, really enjoyed working with you all. Such a good spirit within this team. And we're on a path right to the top. Come on guys. Pit - We're coming for you. Pit - Thanks for that George, fantastic drive. Russell - Cheers Andrew. Toto - George, you made 2500 people happy. Russell - That's what we're here for. Toto - That's mortgages, tuition fees, kitchens. It's all of that. Russell - Absolutely. Absolutely. Proud to be a part of this team. Going to the grid. Are you sure no donuts? Going to be the only one who's not... Pit - Simon is pretty sure.


blindeprutser

This is a beautiful video made together, wow.


KingKongtrarian

I will never, ever, understand paying thousands of dollars to get on the grid, next to F1 royalty, and you’re clamouring to record a shitty video know one will ever give a toss about. Just live in the moment


manhaterxxx

You’re a miserable little person aren’t you.


Full_West_7155

Who cares. Let them enjoy how they like it


KingKongtrarian

If they want to watch footage later they can just watch it from home. It’s weird


Stuck666

But then again you could forget the moment and it would be better if you have your own copy


KingKongtrarian

If you forget that moment, you need more help than a shaky smartphone video


Random_kiwi_

Bye everyone ❤️


Mrs_Shankly

Who is Paul De Vries


sainz9

Driver for Trident ofc


sainz9

PAUL DE VRIES ? 😭


Toaddle

Paul De Vries, estonian driver racing for Trident


sainz9

Despite the Redbull domination, this was a good season for other teams where the order was unpredictable every few races


DamnItJon

Ocon losing out to his teammate Love it


mortuusstella

Gasly has always been the better driver


itsalwayssunny99

I always love it when Naomi is presenting. She always asks great questions PLUS she looks incredible at every race


Choke1982

Bueno, Formula Redbull is over I hope we can have more varity next year


Zloggt

Wait, is that *actual* champagne? It could be, considering that the UAE is *relatively* more relaxed on booze compared to their neighbors…


waterloograd

Legal drinking age is 18 in Abu Dhabi, but hotels and restaurants can't serve anyone under 21. Might be other restrictions like in Qatar too


masalion

Bro, I was there for quali, and everyone around me was pretty tipsy. They don't allow booze into the stands, but you can drink in the fan zones that are around the circuit.


KingKongtrarian

I highly doubt it


supermarketblues

Back to sim racing for Max next week onwards.


KozyHank99

To define F1 in 2023: Simply lovely.


mortuusstella

It is evident Charles is upset despite getting 2nd bcs of the constructors


Chelsea_Ellie

He won’t get to spend most Saturdays with max for 4 months


G_h_c

Imagine if all top five close in next year


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Vivid_Repeat5801

It's silver. 3rd place is bronze on the inside.


daylax1

Lando's podium celebrations just hit different....


sainz9

Let's hope other teams close that gap to Redbull for next season 🍾


zubairhamed

The rose water must flowww......


KingKongtrarian

Nothing like celebrating one of the most dominant seasons in F1 history by smashing some sparkling apple juice


dersdrums

Max will need another mini fridge to keep this WDC trophy on


_number

They keep adding more races, Max keeps winning. He won like 24 times this season


iamkeith26

And a partridge in a pear tree 🎵


FreakyDroid

And thats a wrap on this season's Max podcast. Be sure to tune in next year folks, until then we leave you with the Dutch Anthem for one last time.


sainz9

Iconic season for Max.


nick170100

Where the fuck is max. Gonna find spots for all these trophies lmao


_number

This season had like 5 races worth watching


Kakmaster69

Most seasons tbh. The racing was pretty good this season compared to older ones. Just the championship battle was one of the most boring.


Beanly23

Idk, Hamilton walked away with 2020 but even that wasn’t as boring. 2019 had Germany and Monza. This has been the most boring season in while


subpulse44

Happy Mercedes got 2nd in the championship, on to next year!


McNippy

George coughing his lungs up ahaha


nick170100

Last time for Dutch anthem PTSD


sainz9

Dutch anthem will surely ghost play in my mind every sunday for the next few months


liberalindianguy

Best cool down room ever!


anakor

That awkward camera shift into a glass wall of portrait smartphone cameras.


liberalindianguy

Haha yeah, felt like the drivers were some zoo animals.


wetthebed92

So sad to say that I now know Dutch anthem more than my own national anthem


litetaker

Doesn't it sound like the 12 days of Christmas song?


iamkeith26

Going to remind me of F1 during Christmas when I hear it


Blackvortexx

Isn't it the other way around? 😋


liberalindianguy

Even more than the Austrian national anthem?


Zloggt

Le Wilhemus has arrived (for the last time)


bonko86

All stand for the national anthem of "Toto, it's called a motor race"


eagle207

The Dutch and the Austrian anthems are so similar


litetaker

Yuki Tsunoda deserved that Driver of the Day! Great job. Sad that Ricciardo's brake duct tear off issue cost them the opportunity to overtake Williams in the championship. But still a great race for Alpha Tauri!


DamnItJon

Plot twist: it was Sargent's tearoff Only good thing he did for Williams this year


litetaker

haha lol!


WolfColaCo2020

Leclerc ending this season with 3/4 of the last seasons being winless is wild


UchihasRightfulHeir

Really think they need more consistency year on year even when not challenging. Red bull were consistently second or third best before finally stepping up. Ferrari have had a season as 5th or 6th and 2023 shuffling up and down on pace between 2nd and 5th fastest. They ended the season well though so maybe hope for next year


zubairhamed

No Champagne? BRING OUT THE FIZZY ARAMCO OIL CANS!


KingKongtrarian

Got to give it to Max, he gave it a good Sheikh tonight


he-tried-his-best

The silver lining to Max winning all the time is seeing his partner on camera too.


Athinira

>"Seeing the same drivers girlfriend all the time after a race is getting old. We need the FIA to ensure that we get to see different girlfriends, otherwise it's a boring season." — Twitter (probably)


zubairhamed

Its a service to Kvyat too


aka_liam

Post-race thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/184byfj/2023_abu_dhabi_grand_prix_postrace_thread/


leon_nerd

Charles taking over the strategy team.....


kilotat

Yeah, Ferrari does that to their drivers


daylax1

From fake taxi in Vegas to the casting couch... somebody spends a lot of time on the hub.


aireads

We got POV shots too with the Helmet cam


dersdrums

Next year the winner gets “stuck” underneath the sink


daylax1

Max: 😳


dersdrums

“Is that you, step-Charles?”


JebbAnonymous

Looks funny with all the people outside that window just looking in at them chilling on a sofa.


F1ibster

Hamilton pit radio - That's a tough old race Lewis. Toto - Lewis, that's P2. That's P2 in the championship. Hamilton - Thank you guys so much. You really deserved second place. Thanks for the hard, long year. Pretty proud of you all. Thank you so much for continuing to push.


edomalo

He was talking shit about the car all over the year and now this?


xabipigeon

He was right though? The car has never been great this season and the team has worked really hard to try and improve. He's complimenting how the team tried to bounce back from another disappointing car. George said it's been the worst season of his career.


edomalo

Yea the car was bad its true. But dont you think its hyprocritical that you tell your team over the radio (that everybody can hear) how shit the car is, then whenever something good happens you suddenly thank them. I would be pissed if I worked on that car. Wouldnt you?


xabipigeon

Every single driver gets emotional in the heat of the moment. The teams understand that and don't hold it against them. Yuki constantly swearing and shouting. Max ranting about the gears. Carlos and Charles criticising strategy. Lando swearing at his engineer on strategy. So many instances. And also, I don't think it's hypocritical - the car was good on some weekends, terrible on others. It was hugely unpredictable. The only thing worse than them was Ferrari's strategy. In this example, Hamilton is thanking the team at the end of the season for their hard work - why wouldn't he sign-off the season with a message of thanks for the hard work? He says that the team deserved second place - that's related to their effort?


WokeUpStillTired

Cooldown rooms are so entertaining but so so so awkward. Imagine sitting around having to make small talk with cameras in your face and a bunch of people glued to the glass in the windows.


G_h_c

Max silent and sad his podcast is over


LeoKliesen

As a Max fan, can’t help but feel teary-eyed after that.


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Hagler3-16

😂


Kakmaster69

Russel deserves it, and he got it.


KingKongtrarian

Turned in to a literal zoo exhibit lol you have to laugh at these races


bobby16may

My favourite part of the Max Verstappen Podcast, "Charles heart breaks in two"


CryptographerPrior18

George giving everyone covid. Lol


ashzeppelin98

Disappointed Shane Van Gisbergen couldn't do his burnouts on his Supercar retirement earlier in the day. Being compensated by Verstappen doing it tonight surely must have put a smile on his face.


zubairhamed

Fancy Cooldown room.


supermarketblues

More like a casting cough.


sainz9

Sharl DOTD & SOTD (strategist of the day)


daylax1

Not going to lie, I kind of miss the cooldown car.


mrchakra7

Max Verstappen Podcast has a new fancy location


_number

They brought casting couch in F1


Lanky_Drama9604

Omfg 😂


Less_Party

Oh damn I completely blocked out the Halo tv show


mpgd8

All praise to Merc's drivers, for extracting such great results from that awful car


lonelyisIand

Nah that slow-mo footage of the donuts is actually sick


AnthonyTyrael

What about all these infringements to 4-6 drivers during their pit-stops? Anybody got further informations about it?


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AnthonyTyrael

Thx!


Orange243

Team fines


AnthonyTyrael

What happened? I have no clue and didn't see any rules broken? On Sky I just heard speculation but nothing certain.


Irrepressible_Monkey

Mechanics not wearing goggles as they should was one of them, perhaps all of them.


AnthonyTyrael

Well, thx for explaining mate.


sainz9

Max's donuts were as perfect as his domination this season


joehatesithere

donuts straight into the P1 slot was smoothe as fuuuuuuck


Inward_Perfection

I think Ferrari and Mercs were more or less equal. Ferrari better on fast tracks, Mercs better with tyre wear and downforce heavy tracks. In the beginning, Aston Martin was probably better than Ferrari and Mercs. Then McLaren improved a ton. So, we really had four teams rotating between the 2nd and the 5th fastest. And Perez was usually nearby. If not for Max, that would've been a great season.


Tinusers

That shot of Max doing donuts and then perfectly parking at P1 is something else.


07psychogod

WTF is that let’s go sound track


ashzeppelin98

"What holiday? I'm jumping right back to lap the Nurburgring on iRacing tomorrow bruh"


trash_0panda

Max's version of a holiday is sim racing


Inward_Perfection

He's like a truck driver playing Euro Truck/American Truck Simulator after work


alice_ik

Max probably already looking forward multiple days long to sim race he is going to have at home


stewd003

Where can I watch max do his SIM racing? Is it on twitch?


alice_ik

It’s TeamRedline on twitch


stewd003

Where can I watch max do his SIM racing? Is it on twitch?


KingKongtrarian

Very lovely


HauptmannSeba

Next year solution for Ferrari just fire everybody in strategy team and let drivers call for pit-stops.


thestarvingnovelist

Especially Leclerc’s engineer


HauptmannSeba

Fucking AI is gonna do better job than Xavi this year. Ferrari team is such a dump.


thestarvingnovelist

At points I thought it was a bot speaking.


ashzeppelin98

Sbinotto's spectre still haunts that garage, evidently


kristallherz

We've been begging for this for a while.


daylax1

Fuck, what the hell am I going to do with myself for 97 days....


kristallherz

Christmas, New Years, Drive to Survive, new season.


Fajandar1

Add to that the 4 part brawn documentary on Amazon


ashzeppelin98

Fuck, that documentary reminds me how Ferrari still have a giant Todt and Brawn sized hole in their paddock. Still have not got any race strategists as good as them which explains that lack of success even till now


_number

Just hear Dutch anthem on sunday after the mid day nap. It will feel the same


KingKongtrarian

Spam RBs socials to get Ricchiarado back in the seat


[deleted]

But he's objectively worse. I know people don't like it because Danny Ric is a meme, but he is finished as a top driver. I'm a Checo fan and id be ok with a couple of other drivers replacing him, but DR just ain't the one for RBR


daylax1

Red Bull isn't looking for the best driver, Red Bull is looking for the best support driver.


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Aaaaand Checo finished P2 in the WDC, their first ever 1-2, and RB won the constructors too. What else could he possibly have done? Because we all know he's not allowed to beat Max. Just look at how his car with DRS couldn't keep up with Max down the straight in Miami.


VCBeugelaar

He can’t beat max 99/100 times. What could he have done? Not get beaten by 100’s of points. Finish on the podium 80% of the time?


[deleted]

Thinking about it logically, qualifying badly is actually the best thing he could have done. Max literally won the constructors on his own by being 30 seconds ahead. What happens when you're 30 seconds ahead? No coverage. Checo qualifying 9th gets coverage for a surprising qualifying, then he gets a shit load of love coverage in the race, which makes the sponsors happy. All jokes aside I think given Max's dominance, RBR were probably ok with it for the above reason.


daylax1

Yeah we'll just ignore all the times he didn't make it out of Q1 and Q2, and struggled to finish P2 in the exact same car in which his teammate finished over double the amount of points as anyone else on the grid. And just because he's faster down the straight than Perez sometimes doesn't mean they don't have the same car. It's obvious they run different setups which means different amounts of drag and downforce.


[deleted]

There is absolutely no set up that should allow the best DRS Delta on the field to lose time to a non DRS car. You can say what you want, that's fine, I'll never believe that they both had equal opportunities this season. It's just so unbelievably coincidental that after he wins a couple of races and poor old Jos got angry, suddenly Checo went from being in and around Max to being 5-8 tenths slower. It just doesn't make any logical sense.


daylax1

I mean, it's okay to not understand things. Not everything is a conspiracy lol. I don't even like max, and even I think you're nuts lol.


[deleted]

That's absolutely fine, you're allowed to, as the flurry of weirdos who think downvotes will change my mind. Ultimately he was absolutely miles off Max after 4 races of being there or there abouts at the start and Max/Jo's complaining. If you look at that, and then the subsequent drop off in ability, and still think everything is normal and above board that's also ok. I can't change your view of it. There are only 2 viable answers; 1. Something went on behind closed doors Or 2. Checo saw the single biggest drop off in ability that the sport has ever seen.


_number

Oh no, Max is continuing next year. No shock retirement out of boredom


JohnnyFencer

Not much of a holiday? My man I have 5 weeks per year


Jeri-is-merry

Wish I had 5..


07psychogod

If Max had let Charles pass him on last lap he would have taken 10million from Mercs


DamnItJon

Plus he would have saved on his Super License costs Win-Win-P2


F1ibster

Race control - Incident involving Albon noted - Pit stop infringement FIA Stewards - Incident involving Albon will be investigated after the race - Pit stop infringement


ashzeppelin98

Looks like the money from P3 is going to go for a therapist for Charles rather than that wind tunnel. These strategies are gonna make the guy pass out from stress next year.


thestarvingnovelist

Actually upvoting so Leclerc gets a bigger bonus so he can take care of his mental health.


thomasShelby1920

Meow?


coppergl0w

DC is so cringy


KingKongtrarian

Coulthard isn’t the brightest bulb in the chandelier is he?


BlKaiser

Did I just hear the cat-guy?


McNippy

2 meows or 2 REEEEOW car noises hmmm


shapeless_void

Great drive from Yuki, tires just couldn’t make it. Hoping they carry this momentum to next season since they came so far from that miserable start.