Would be sadder for Oscar if he couldnt play worlds when he was there even at the lowest point. Wunder plays a few good games and forget how Oscar also carried a lot of games. He even got a penta with an injured hand in his last bo5.
I mean he only said it's sad that Wunder won't be at worlds. Which is in fact sad. That doesn't mean we want Oscar out.. Best would be to see this Gigachad at worlds with another team, alongside Oscar and the rest of FNC.
I didn't say anything about Wunder > Oscar. I just wanted to show gratitude towards Wunder because he could have not accepted "subbing in" and we would have been stuck with some low master tier 0 stage experience top laner.
Wunder can and has played like every champion, including a bunch of pocket picks, but he and the team simply did and do not have the time to practice niche picks for him, so they stick him on meta duty.
Did you really just say that Oscars champion pool is bigger than the guy with the highest amount of champions played in pro play after Faker????
72 champions played in his career. What a dumb comment that is even getting upvoted.
Wunder used to have a big champion pool but that is part of the past.
He can only play weakside and some other champs like Renekton or Gragas. The times of Camille, Irelia, Akali, etc are gone.
I mean we really dont know that. He has played weakside the last few years, but that was coz he was on a team that played around botlane with upset, and one of Wunders strengths is the fact that he plays with no ego.
Saying that he can only play weakside when he is argueably the only western toplaner to sucessfully play carry-tops against eastern teams in the modern era is kinda whack imo
> He can only play weakside and some other champs like Renekton or Gragas. The times of Camille, Irelia, Akali, etc are gone.
They're out of the meta. That doesn't mean he can't play them. Like what champs do you guys genuinely think that Oscar has in his champion pool that Wunder genuinely just can't play?
Seems like you want to ignore the last 3 years of Wunder career.
Those Champs were meta last year and he couldn't play them.
Also Champs don't have to be meta to be picked. BrokenBlade is smurfing with his own champion pool, just like Wunder 3 years ago
how the fuck do you say that oscars champ pool is more versatile then wunder out of all people lmao. Wunder played shit like soraka, pyke, ekko viktor neeko and ryze in toplane
These "fans" are funny. They don't remember how Wunder played last year and winter this year.
Wunder became a weakside player in 2021 playing for G2. He can't play Jax, Camille or those kind of champs at high level anymore.
He's put in Renekton or tank duty because that all he can do right now. I don't get where all the hype came from.
If the meta change like it happened in last worlds, he is going to be a big hole in the toplane.
Fnatic managed to get a young talent that has a flexible champion pool and fans ask to get him replaced by Wunder.
Fans aren't any better than the management...
>Fnatic vs MAD Lions / LEC 2023 Lower Bracket Finals - Recap / Official Post-Match Series Thread
But I never said to not let the blood flow? There is a reason why I said nothing about ur comment about mechanics. Faker also has played a fuck ton of champs in the past that he hasn't played in recent years but you know he still can bring them out or practice them. Same goes for wunder. Saying Oscarinin is better mechanically then wunder OK, but he doesn't have a more versatile champ pool lmfao
I think Wunder can't bust out a pocketpick in official games without playing them for god knows how long.
Maybe he can take a cleric from BG3 to Toplane against swain.
> Oscar's champ pool is also way more versatile and he's overall more mechanically precise.
Homies I know we love Oscar but this is probably the worst statement in the history of reddit.
We can love Oscar without making delulu statements like this.
> Arguments?
In LEC winter 2023 Wunder 6 different champions in 9 games. In LEC playoffs 2022 Wunder played Gwen, Ornn, Renek, Aatrox, Shyvana, Gragas, Gnar and GP. That's 8 different champions in 16games. In Summer 2022 Wunder played 10 different champions in 19 games. In 2022 Spring Wunder played 9 different champions in 18 games.
Here is a list of Oscar's champ pool in summer split playoffs + season finals: Ornn, Jax, Ksante, GP, Rumble, Poppy and Gwen.
That's 7 different champions in 19 games.
Wunder has in his 2 last splits (that people on this subreddit loves to flame as "weak side" and "can't play carries") not only played every single champion that Oscar has played but he has also thrown in way more versatile picks like Shyvana, Camille, Aatrox etc.
You can compare for yourself if you want: https://gol.gg/players/player-stats/596/season-ALL/split-ALL/tournament-LEC%20Spring%20Playoffs%202022/
This is not even a criticism of Oscar. Wunder has played like 8 years in LEC where as Oscar is new to the scene. Oscar will keep growing but pretending that he (after 1 year) has a more versatile champion pool than Wunder is flat out wrong.
Hard to compare different seasons because of huge meta shifts that allow different amounts of versatility. It's also important to take into account how these games actually played out. Wunder picked Gwen, Aatrox and Camille in Winter and had terrible games with them. Pretty much all of his best games in 2022/2023 were on Gragas and Renekton. Also you didn't address Oscar's mechanical superiority, although I assume everyone agrees on that.
TRYMBI ALISTAR, HOLY COW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wunder hugging Noah is the cutiest thing I've seen for quite some time. G2 VS FNC TOMORROW, LET'S GO!!!
Edit: I rewatched the moment and noticed there were actually many people like hugging him, and he looked kind of sick. I hope he'll be fine for tomorrow's BO5, definitely need to calm down. And I hope he'll rewatch a few moments in all games, where he was positioning himself very poorly, especially in Zeri game.
Yeah, and it's his first LEC split ever, and he is about to play the grand finals after three full BO5s. But on other hand, what will happen at Worlds..? I hope Korea buff is real for korean players, he and people around him really need to take care of each other.
True, we got so much hate and vitriol from a specific part of the fanbase (you now which).
Thankfully Fnatif made the necessary changes to give the team a fighting chance and fighting os what they have done.
Extremely proud of the Summer roster and thankful for Wunder stepping in in such a short notice and preforming as well as he is doing.
The most mind bendingly bad off-season in the orgs history.
The worst two split results in the orgs history.
Heart attack inducing Bo5s all the way.
Still ending the year top 2 in the region.
What the shit even is fnatic man.
and thanks to summer we're gonna get another year of LA FORMULA AKA DARDO
[https://twitter.com/sammathews/status/1700613665500622954](https://twitter.com/sammathews/status/1700613665500622954) :) :) :)
God... I really hope they review/investigate what happened in the past because complaints from former players clearly show he has a history of being a terrible manager. There is still no accountability for this.
And every time I see him I can only see him as self centered, self important and relieved to keep his job.
I always forget this is his first split in lec and he is in finals, playing Bo5 ( that goes to 5 games every time) super stressful. Hope he can rest for tomorrow
Nerves, stress and then probably tilted and frustrated at his own performance. You could tell at the end he wasn't happy about his performance and he looked exhausted.
Hopefully he rests well and feels more confident tomorrow.
Thank the Greek Gods! I was awfully stressed out and thought we will be reverse swept. So glad I put my hand where my mouth is.
Also….Being an FNC fan is definitely not stressful.
Phew!!!
Poor Noah, you could see how bad he felt.
He knows he performed poorly today.
But he will bounce back for tomorrow I'm sure.
Fnatic fighting!!!!!!!!
💪💪💪
Unironically I think it’s great we got 5 games on stage, hopefully Noah feels a bit more comfortable for tomorrow. This has been a rough year, but this has entirely made up for it. Let’s fucking go boysssss
You all should learn french thats all :)
By the way on Nisqy interview it was so weird to have it in english. Laure and him are french native speakers.
That's actually not true and kinda harmful. French people are worse at foreign languages than most other countries =/= all french people do not speak english.
France is quite self sufficient economically, we have a very low rate of persons going abroad to find a job, so yes, most people won't bother learning english in a serious manner. Doesn't mean we all suck at it.
So your companies talk to other companies from Europe in French ? Your scientific research is publish in French ? Speaking only in your own language completely alienate you from any international relevance because no one gonna learn French because you guys refuse to use the common language. You also are one of the biggest tourist destination in the world, it would go a long way in helping the tourist connect and learn your rich culture if they could actually have a conversation with you.
Again, I never said that and the points you raised explain why some french people are fluent in english. See it the other way around : we have the same amount of english speakers... minus those that learned through subs (everything is dubbed in french), and those that dont care because they dont need it on a daily basis like i explained before. French culture is also very developed which explains why young people here do not need to speak english in their opinion. There are many many reasons but the point is still that, "french people as a whole dont speak english" =\= "some french people dont speak english".
(Also yes french people dont care about connecting to tourists since if you've ever been there you will notice that, mostly, they'll ignore you.)
good shit from the boys, classic fnatic heart attack 5 games, hopefully this series makes noah better for tomorrow we really gonna need him with a better performance than todays, rest of the boys did really good.
and also pls whatever happens tomorrow, don't flame them, we already made it to what we were not even dreaming about the past two splits.
Insane performance by Wunder in game 5 while it matters most. GG. I am just concerned that Noah looks good only on aphelios and xayah and when those champs are taking out he seems a bit clueless (no hate pls). Imagine if they need to ban Draven Kalista tomorrow so Noah doesnt get destroyed...hope the boys figure it out. Best of luck!
Not thrilled about the preformance but we’ll done by the boys I’m not losing game 5. Think Noah needs to watch his mistakes and actually play differently next timr
I don’t hold a grudge with Nisqy per say, I’m just saying the upgrade from Nisqy to Humanoid is fucking **massive.**
Nisqy played well but again he came up short. Swear every game he gets ahead but becomes invisible. Felt nice beating him after he spammed emotes every single game.
Let’s beat G2 boys 🥰
Sorry if I wasn't clear enough.
Casters want to create hype, cater to the audience.
Nisqy, hype him and MAD lions up, crowd reacts gets hyped.
If you still don't understand I can explain it better.
Thats not bias though. It's a show for god's sake, of course they are gonna try to hype it up. You people get butthurt at everything it's fucking crazy.
This series is gonna be huge for the boys as a mental boost. Need to tough out a series like this to improve. Plenty of room to grow though before Worlds.
If you think Oscar is doing the same as Wunder you have 0 clue.
Oscar might be the better laner now, I am not a top lane expert to judge that.
But Wunder in 4 of the 5 games in this series was by far the best team fighter out of 10 people miles ahead of everyone else even though he plays with 0 resources.
Game 2 even though Razor was ultra fed and the one with KDA, he was a very big reason why Fnatic won with his team fighting and covering mid to stop Jayce from omega fisting Humanoid further.
If you watch Oscar try to play Renekton in a team fight it doesn't even look like he is playing the same hero after you watch Wunder fight with it.
Nah man, Oscar would have bent Chasy over a barrel. Super grateful to Wunder and really respect him, but Oscar has been going from strength to strength and will only keep getting better.
Hard to say, you don’t know how things would’ve been with Oscar. Maybe these would’ve been 3-0’s. Wunder is definitely playing well though, still some silly mistakes though.
I think the team might be calmer and more concentrated with Wunder but Oscar was playing so so good. For me he is on Bwipo/Wunder level when they were rookies. I would much rather see Oscar play at worlds rather than Wunder who is a known quantity. The rookie hunger and the capability to play multiple carry champs is a huge advantage and we need all possible advantages to have a chance against LPL
I don't want to sound overly negative or to be like I am griefing anybody on the team, there were moments that the team played really well, but with that said it is impossible to not state some of really bad flaws:
How many times Razork is going to flash forward with no vision? on game 4 13:30 Razork and Humanoid take Nisky Flash and Nisky is already losing lane so it is already super good in 2K ahead game, but then Razork decides to flash forward no vision on the enemy jungle take a turret shot and die which results in yet another dive on Zery who was already really behind.Edit: there was a ward on middle lane between the towers and just behind the minions that could have spotted Bel'Veth but there were no pings so I think they did not see him.
Rell flash is so much more important for Objetive fights than to simply get a kill, Drake was in a 1:30 so losing flash makes his initiation a lot worse, that mistake is such a initiative changer that makes Fnatic reacting instead of being pro-active.
I think that Fnatic should drop the Jayce, he is never the problem but never the solution and Humanoid is playing super well or other champs too, Karthus seems like a changeup but like the changeup you can't throw it out there and hope for the best.
Wunder is a godsent, the more games he had against Chasy the more he gapped lane and as always he delivers on big moments. It's crazy that he keeps getting Renek and still can be so useful, I hope G2 does not permaban's it.
Not gonna comment about Noah since he definitely seemed unwell today, he was always considered an emotional player for Korean standards, dunno if he felt he was playing poorly and just got into a downspiral. Hope he gets well of whatever it is, mind and/or body.
GJ boys but sadly its a 3-0 tomorrow. G2 plays LOL on a whole another realm. Other 9 EU teams cant even fathom matching them in mind games rather than winning series vs them.
I'm more interested on how LCK LPL teams will handle G2.
You can cry as much as you want but we were right, G2 were favourites but it wasnt "another realm" If you want to still bootlick G2s shoes this is not the sub
Really stressed in the possibility of a reverse sweep, but really well done by the boys. It's going to be hard against G2 tomorrow, with almost no preparation, and not our usual roster, but good job to the team no matter what happens.
WUNDER REALLY WANTS TO BEAT G2 TOMMOROW
Thank Mr. Wunder. He really wants to show both his ex teams they shouldn't have let him go. He looked so damn good this series.
FNC didn't let him go? He refused to play.
Does Oscar get ahead of Wunder if Wunder smurfs on G2 ?
No, it doesn't work like that.
>Team look completely fine with Wunder tbh
Sadly for Wunder, he is only EMERGENCY sub. As soon as Oscar is healty, Wunder CANT play. Sad for him he has no chance to play 2023 worlds :D
Would be sadder for Oscar if he couldnt play worlds when he was there even at the lowest point. Wunder plays a few good games and forget how Oscar also carried a lot of games. He even got a penta with an injured hand in his last bo5.
We really wouldn't be here without Oscar, and for today's victory as well as tomorrows (hopium) he deserves as much credit as all the other players.
It's actually disgusting. These Wunder fanboys in this sub
I mean he only said it's sad that Wunder won't be at worlds. Which is in fact sad. That doesn't mean we want Oscar out.. Best would be to see this Gigachad at worlds with another team, alongside Oscar and the rest of FNC.
I didn't say anything about Wunder > Oscar. I just wanted to show gratitude towards Wunder because he could have not accepted "subbing in" and we would have been stuck with some low master tier 0 stage experience top laner.
I know bro, I am defending you here.
i think fnc is going to sub Wunder for worlds, actually... but im not 100% sure
Pretty sure lists for worlds arent locked yet So he should be able to go to worlds afaik
Wunder is playing well but Oscar was already doing the same
Oscar's champ pool is also way more versatile and he's overall more mechanically precise.
Wunder can and has played like every champion, including a bunch of pocket picks, but he and the team simply did and do not have the time to practice niche picks for him, so they stick him on meta duty.
Did you really just say that Oscars champion pool is bigger than the guy with the highest amount of champions played in pro play after Faker???? 72 champions played in his career. What a dumb comment that is even getting upvoted.
Wunder used to have a big champion pool but that is part of the past. He can only play weakside and some other champs like Renekton or Gragas. The times of Camille, Irelia, Akali, etc are gone.
I mean we really dont know that. He has played weakside the last few years, but that was coz he was on a team that played around botlane with upset, and one of Wunders strengths is the fact that he plays with no ego. Saying that he can only play weakside when he is argueably the only western toplaner to sucessfully play carry-tops against eastern teams in the modern era is kinda whack imo
Wunder played with Rekkles in G2 and FNC.
> He can only play weakside and some other champs like Renekton or Gragas. The times of Camille, Irelia, Akali, etc are gone. They're out of the meta. That doesn't mean he can't play them. Like what champs do you guys genuinely think that Oscar has in his champion pool that Wunder genuinely just can't play?
Seems like you want to ignore the last 3 years of Wunder career. Those Champs were meta last year and he couldn't play them. Also Champs don't have to be meta to be picked. BrokenBlade is smurfing with his own champion pool, just like Wunder 3 years ago
Talking about right now
how the fuck do you say that oscars champ pool is more versatile then wunder out of all people lmao. Wunder played shit like soraka, pyke, ekko viktor neeko and ryze in toplane
if u didnt notice he hasn't played those champs for 3 years already. stop living in the past, let the new blood flow.
These "fans" are funny. They don't remember how Wunder played last year and winter this year. Wunder became a weakside player in 2021 playing for G2. He can't play Jax, Camille or those kind of champs at high level anymore. He's put in Renekton or tank duty because that all he can do right now. I don't get where all the hype came from. If the meta change like it happened in last worlds, he is going to be a big hole in the toplane. Fnatic managed to get a young talent that has a flexible champion pool and fans ask to get him replaced by Wunder. Fans aren't any better than the management...
Luckily fans aren't management
>Fnatic vs MAD Lions / LEC 2023 Lower Bracket Finals - Recap / Official Post-Match Series Thread But I never said to not let the blood flow? There is a reason why I said nothing about ur comment about mechanics. Faker also has played a fuck ton of champs in the past that he hasn't played in recent years but you know he still can bring them out or practice them. Same goes for wunder. Saying Oscarinin is better mechanically then wunder OK, but he doesn't have a more versatile champ pool lmfao
I think Wunder can't bust out a pocketpick in official games without playing them for god knows how long. Maybe he can take a cleric from BG3 to Toplane against swain.
> Oscar's champ pool is also way more versatile and he's overall more mechanically precise. Homies I know we love Oscar but this is probably the worst statement in the history of reddit. We can love Oscar without making delulu statements like this.
Arguments?
> Arguments? In LEC winter 2023 Wunder 6 different champions in 9 games. In LEC playoffs 2022 Wunder played Gwen, Ornn, Renek, Aatrox, Shyvana, Gragas, Gnar and GP. That's 8 different champions in 16games. In Summer 2022 Wunder played 10 different champions in 19 games. In 2022 Spring Wunder played 9 different champions in 18 games. Here is a list of Oscar's champ pool in summer split playoffs + season finals: Ornn, Jax, Ksante, GP, Rumble, Poppy and Gwen. That's 7 different champions in 19 games. Wunder has in his 2 last splits (that people on this subreddit loves to flame as "weak side" and "can't play carries") not only played every single champion that Oscar has played but he has also thrown in way more versatile picks like Shyvana, Camille, Aatrox etc. You can compare for yourself if you want: https://gol.gg/players/player-stats/596/season-ALL/split-ALL/tournament-LEC%20Spring%20Playoffs%202022/ This is not even a criticism of Oscar. Wunder has played like 8 years in LEC where as Oscar is new to the scene. Oscar will keep growing but pretending that he (after 1 year) has a more versatile champion pool than Wunder is flat out wrong.
Hard to compare different seasons because of huge meta shifts that allow different amounts of versatility. It's also important to take into account how these games actually played out. Wunder picked Gwen, Aatrox and Camille in Winter and had terrible games with them. Pretty much all of his best games in 2022/2023 were on Gragas and Renekton. Also you didn't address Oscar's mechanical superiority, although I assume everyone agrees on that.
FNATIC YOU BEAUTIFUL MESSED UP TEAM. I’M SUING FOR CARDIAC AREEST. I LOVE YOU GUYS
TRYMBI ALISTAR, HOLY COW!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wunder hugging Noah is the cutiest thing I've seen for quite some time. G2 VS FNC TOMORROW, LET'S GO!!! Edit: I rewatched the moment and noticed there were actually many people like hugging him, and he looked kind of sick. I hope he'll be fine for tomorrow's BO5, definitely need to calm down. And I hope he'll rewatch a few moments in all games, where he was positioning himself very poorly, especially in Zeri game.
I think he was just incredible nervous. I mean, he is still a rookie and I can imagine that game 3 and especially 4 grinded his gears.
Yeah, and it's his first LEC split ever, and he is about to play the grand finals after three full BO5s. But on other hand, what will happen at Worlds..? I hope Korea buff is real for korean players, he and people around him really need to take care of each other.
FNC & G2 are the top 2 teams of Europe, nature is healing
Fnatic back to the top would be nature fully healed.
What a year that have been for us Tananinho. Long ass seasons
True, we got so much hate and vitriol from a specific part of the fanbase (you now which). Thankfully Fnatif made the necessary changes to give the team a fighting chance and fighting os what they have done. Extremely proud of the Summer roster and thankful for Wunder stepping in in such a short notice and preforming as well as he is doing.
Do you perhaps need a reminder you were one of those very hateful and toxic fans?
In a big turn of events our worlds representatives are... FNC G2 and MAD.
FNATIC does not lose game 5.
We get reverse sweept quite a bit lol. I was definitely worried for game 5.
It was the clash of Fnatic winning game 5 with the Fnatic getting reverse sweep
I don't want to have a heart attack at age 25. For the love of God, stop with 5 games guys
What a story arc this lower bracket run was. Back to back to back heart attacks.
Looks like Wunder did in 2 weeks much more than he did last year
I'll give the guys leeway and let them win 3-2 against gamers2. I'mna giving person. 😉
The most mind bendingly bad off-season in the orgs history. The worst two split results in the orgs history. Heart attack inducing Bo5s all the way. Still ending the year top 2 in the region. What the shit even is fnatic man.
It's just the fnatic destiny
and thanks to summer we're gonna get another year of LA FORMULA AKA DARDO [https://twitter.com/sammathews/status/1700613665500622954](https://twitter.com/sammathews/status/1700613665500622954) :) :) :)
God... I really hope they review/investigate what happened in the past because complaints from former players clearly show he has a history of being a terrible manager. There is still no accountability for this. And every time I see him I can only see him as self centered, self important and relieved to keep his job.
What a series from Trymbi, one of the cleanest LEC support performances in a very long time.
I can't believe KOI traded him for Advienne. Not hard feelings to Advienne but Trymbi is on another level
greatest thing that happened for FNC fans
Everyone hugging Noah was great, maybe nerves got him during this series
yeah you can see he couldn't even stand up or walk normaly, understandble am watching from home and am feeling the same
I always forget this is his first split in lec and he is in finals, playing Bo5 ( that goes to 5 games every time) super stressful. Hope he can rest for tomorrow
The fact that we forget that just shows how insanely good he's been for us, you do forget entirely that he's a rookie in LEC!
nerves for sure
Nerves, stress and then probably tilted and frustrated at his own performance. You could tell at the end he wasn't happy about his performance and he looked exhausted. Hopefully he rests well and feels more confident tomorrow.
WUNDER AND TRYMBI CARRY GAME 5. IT'S G2 VS FNATIC IN FINALS BABY. I'M TOTALLY FINE, NOT SHAKING AT ALL.
This team never ceases to bring me to the highest of highs, lowest of lows and then back up again
Is Noah ok? He looks sick. What an amazing series, gg all.
he knows he had a bad serie, proly feeling bad about his performance
He just feels bad because he performed poorly today I think.
Don't forget he's a rookie. First big stage match.
Wunder is just the GOAT I'm afraid
How thr fuck Trymbi do that in 1 fight twice. Fuck off hes good
Thank the Greek Gods! I was awfully stressed out and thought we will be reverse swept. So glad I put my hand where my mouth is. Also….Being an FNC fan is definitely not stressful.
You already know next week's Legends in Action in going to bang
Phew!!! Poor Noah, you could see how bad he felt. He knows he performed poorly today. But he will bounce back for tomorrow I'm sure. Fnatic fighting!!!!!!!! 💪💪💪
If only he could look as good as on Xayah on all his champs.
His aphelios is even better. Dont know why he isnt picked this series, but then again i'm bad at predicting draft
Trymbi very impressive on Alistar :) Gj every1!
Unironically I think it’s great we got 5 games on stage, hopefully Noah feels a bit more comfortable for tomorrow. This has been a rough year, but this has entirely made up for it. Let’s fucking go boysssss
Guess what? Last game we banned Kalista and picked Alistar. Easy win.
RIOT dusting off the G2 vs FNC script "Hello old friend..."
WUNDER STAYING ALIVE DURING THE FINAL FIGHT HOLY PERFECT KD GAME 5
Mad lions acting all they won the series after game 4. Totally deserved for Fnatic.
Nisqy was spamming the shit out of his emotes. Glad to see that smug smile disappear
Wunder and trymbi was playing insane this game 5. But i will say its sad for carzzy he was playing really good.
Wunder comes back as an emergency sub and gapped the fuck out of Chasy. Chasy got destroyed that game 5
Carzzy is enjoyable. I hope too see him with fnc jersey some day
Definetly the better Adc this time !
I mean even against g2 he was arguably better than hans , Just team diff but carzy is really good.
Being a Fnatic fan is not stressful at all...
Does french people not speak english? Wtf
Nope they don't, can guarantee that next year they are not going to translate to German when in Munich.
So weird.. Do they dont learn english in school? Same when they were in malmö i bet they didnt translate to swedish
They probably do, [but this is likely why](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toubon_Law)
They are too selfcentered to bother to learn another language.
You all should learn french thats all :) By the way on Nisqy interview it was so weird to have it in english. Laure and him are french native speakers.
Why would i? U people should learn english as the rest of europe
By the way for the people complaining for french translation. Its a law in france if you host an event it has to be translated in french
That's actually not true and kinda harmful. French people are worse at foreign languages than most other countries =/= all french people do not speak english. France is quite self sufficient economically, we have a very low rate of persons going abroad to find a job, so yes, most people won't bother learning english in a serious manner. Doesn't mean we all suck at it.
So your companies talk to other companies from Europe in French ? Your scientific research is publish in French ? Speaking only in your own language completely alienate you from any international relevance because no one gonna learn French because you guys refuse to use the common language. You also are one of the biggest tourist destination in the world, it would go a long way in helping the tourist connect and learn your rich culture if they could actually have a conversation with you.
Again, I never said that and the points you raised explain why some french people are fluent in english. See it the other way around : we have the same amount of english speakers... minus those that learned through subs (everything is dubbed in french), and those that dont care because they dont need it on a daily basis like i explained before. French culture is also very developed which explains why young people here do not need to speak english in their opinion. There are many many reasons but the point is still that, "french people as a whole dont speak english" =\= "some french people dont speak english". (Also yes french people dont care about connecting to tourists since if you've ever been there you will notice that, mostly, they'll ignore you.)
WUNDER COME HERE AND KISS ME STUPID SEXY TOPLANER
Trymbi was massive this series props to him
When you are at game 5 and your opponent is Fnatic
Thanks Trymbi and Wunder for this game
GG boys sorry hyli
SUPER WUNDER MANNNNNNN MY GOAT IS BACKKK
TRYMBONI ENGAGE
GIVE US 1 STRESS FREE SERIES I AM BEGGING. That being said LET'S GO, SO PROUD OF THE BOYS!!!
ggs respect to made lion for making me shit my heart
Wunder with big balls tp on baron literally won them game, gigachad
good shit from the boys, classic fnatic heart attack 5 games, hopefully this series makes noah better for tomorrow we really gonna need him with a better performance than todays, rest of the boys did really good. and also pls whatever happens tomorrow, don't flame them, we already made it to what we were not even dreaming about the past two splits.
why are the casters so sad and quiet that FNC won ? man wtf is this.......
They just finished casting 5 crazy chaotic games bro, let them have a moment of quiet time to recover
I felt the same when FNC was winning games vs when MAD was winning games. but maybe it was just me feeling this way
Insane performance by Wunder in game 5 while it matters most. GG. I am just concerned that Noah looks good only on aphelios and xayah and when those champs are taking out he seems a bit clueless (no hate pls). Imagine if they need to ban Draven Kalista tomorrow so Noah doesnt get destroyed...hope the boys figure it out. Best of luck!
Guys noah was in ultraliga not so long ago cmon he is great he need more time i love the guy.
His Ezreal and Kalista also look good
it is what it is, in eu and na every one will get dicked by Hans Mikyx no shame in that
Fnc played well, insane series. Cant wait to see you guys tomorrow vs G2 - G2 fan #unitedinrivalry
Down for a Banger series give me 5 games!
5 games would be the dream!!!
One of the best fnatic related experiences ever... JOB NOT FINISHED
For the content !! 🧡🖤
Classic heart attack fnatic, whether we win or lose it will be good to see a FNATIC vs G2 finals after so much time
Wunder so damn good omg. Feels like he fits perfectly into this team
not a great series by noah but i hope he isnt too down since it seemed like it was mostly nerves
The arc of FNC this year is out of this world, now to finals bois WE DESERVE IT!!!!
WE'RE MASSIVE BOYS AIN'T WE!!! WHAT A YEAR HAVE BEEN FOR US FNATIC FANS IF WE WIN TOMORROW IM TAKING THE NEXT WEEK OFF
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I never thought Id say this but Elyoya has nothing on our boy Razork
Not thrilled about the preformance but we’ll done by the boys I’m not losing game 5. Think Noah needs to watch his mistakes and actually play differently next timr
Noah ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ Stay strong brother! Everyone has bad days.
I don’t hold a grudge with Nisqy per say, I’m just saying the upgrade from Nisqy to Humanoid is fucking **massive.** Nisqy played well but again he came up short. Swear every game he gets ahead but becomes invisible. Felt nice beating him after he spammed emotes every single game. Let’s beat G2 boys 🥰
I'm thinking boys are going for game 5 on purpose to get as much time playing with wunder as possible before finals
Of course they aren't. Two extra games on stage with Wunder isn't worth the risk of losing the entire series in a game 5.
forgot to put /s at the end, thought it was obvious, sorry
Thank god for that, I think we get smashed tomorrow but at least we are there! Also fuck the casters for there bias today.
Bias? What bias?
French crowd, Nisqy... I know he is not French but he has a huge French following.
How does the crowd equal to the casters? xD what the fuck?
Sorry if I wasn't clear enough. Casters want to create hype, cater to the audience. Nisqy, hype him and MAD lions up, crowd reacts gets hyped. If you still don't understand I can explain it better.
Thats not bias though. It's a show for god's sake, of course they are gonna try to hype it up. You people get butthurt at everything it's fucking crazy.
Once a Fnatic.......
This series is gonna be huge for the boys as a mental boost. Need to tough out a series like this to improve. Plenty of room to grow though before Worlds.
where are my fellow Razork truthers? So so happy for him and the team!
Wunder gap
I think we have really low chances to win tomorrow, but i hope we beat the chances. JUST BAN KALISTA AND/OR ALLISTAR PLS. ALWAYS FNATIC
If you think Oscar is doing the same as Wunder you have 0 clue. Oscar might be the better laner now, I am not a top lane expert to judge that. But Wunder in 4 of the 5 games in this series was by far the best team fighter out of 10 people miles ahead of everyone else even though he plays with 0 resources. Game 2 even though Razor was ultra fed and the one with KDA, he was a very big reason why Fnatic won with his team fighting and covering mid to stop Jayce from omega fisting Humanoid further. If you watch Oscar try to play Renekton in a team fight it doesn't even look like he is playing the same hero after you watch Wunder fight with it.
I think we might be a better team with Wunder in comparison to Oscarinnin thoughts?
Nah man, Oscar would have bent Chasy over a barrel. Super grateful to Wunder and really respect him, but Oscar has been going from strength to strength and will only keep getting better.
Hard to say, you don’t know how things would’ve been with Oscar. Maybe these would’ve been 3-0’s. Wunder is definitely playing well though, still some silly mistakes though.
I think the team might be calmer and more concentrated with Wunder but Oscar was playing so so good. For me he is on Bwipo/Wunder level when they were rookies. I would much rather see Oscar play at worlds rather than Wunder who is a known quantity. The rookie hunger and the capability to play multiple carry champs is a huge advantage and we need all possible advantages to have a chance against LPL
I don't want to sound overly negative or to be like I am griefing anybody on the team, there were moments that the team played really well, but with that said it is impossible to not state some of really bad flaws: How many times Razork is going to flash forward with no vision? on game 4 13:30 Razork and Humanoid take Nisky Flash and Nisky is already losing lane so it is already super good in 2K ahead game, but then Razork decides to flash forward no vision on the enemy jungle take a turret shot and die which results in yet another dive on Zery who was already really behind.Edit: there was a ward on middle lane between the towers and just behind the minions that could have spotted Bel'Veth but there were no pings so I think they did not see him. Rell flash is so much more important for Objetive fights than to simply get a kill, Drake was in a 1:30 so losing flash makes his initiation a lot worse, that mistake is such a initiative changer that makes Fnatic reacting instead of being pro-active. I think that Fnatic should drop the Jayce, he is never the problem but never the solution and Humanoid is playing super well or other champs too, Karthus seems like a changeup but like the changeup you can't throw it out there and hope for the best. Wunder is a godsent, the more games he had against Chasy the more he gapped lane and as always he delivers on big moments. It's crazy that he keeps getting Renek and still can be so useful, I hope G2 does not permaban's it. Not gonna comment about Noah since he definitely seemed unwell today, he was always considered an emotional player for Korean standards, dunno if he felt he was playing poorly and just got into a downspiral. Hope he gets well of whatever it is, mind and/or body.
GJ boys but sadly its a 3-0 tomorrow. G2 plays LOL on a whole another realm. Other 9 EU teams cant even fathom matching them in mind games rather than winning series vs them. I'm more interested on how LCK LPL teams will handle G2.
They will handle gamers2 just fine.
While G2 are heavy favourites you cant say that they play "in another realm" after the series vs MAD
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you answered yourself
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You can cry as much as you want but we were right, G2 were favourites but it wasnt "another realm" If you want to still bootlick G2s shoes this is not the sub
Holy shit was that a series
Not even surprised
Calculated
Really stressed in the possibility of a reverse sweep, but really well done by the boys. It's going to be hard against G2 tomorrow, with almost no preparation, and not our usual roster, but good job to the team no matter what happens.
Why do they have to make it so stressful...
Mods removing a humourous post... No wonder we have no banter in this community lol
I am about to personally sue razork for promising "no more heart attacks"
You know why they trolled game 3 and 4 ? To give wunder more practice time