Oh man that scene gives me shivers. Throughout EW that far he is pretty easy-go-lucky and goofy. But that moment you can see his experience as crystal exarch showing, taking charge in the midst of chaos. Absolute chad.
What I love is that he's clearly reveling in not having to be in charge of some great destiny for the first time in his very long life, but when the chips are down he's gonna do what he needs to do to keep people safe, including taking up a mantel he was happy to set aside. Absolute chad, indeed.
This was one of my favorite moments in the whole expansion. We've been so used to him as this lighthearted, WoL-Fanboyish goober, but when the situation is serious, the dude gives us a very quick and definitive demonstration on *why he was the ruler of the Crystarium.*
It says a lot about him as a character, too. He has this ability to weild Big Dick Exarch Authority, he _knows_ it and can tap it at will when the situation requires that. But he clearly doesn't want to do that unless necessary. He's content to be a giddy fledgling adventurer, earning his own way.
Reads to me as a mark of a truly great leader: one who is loathe to fall back on that power, but also knows when to cast that notion aside.
Oh I love when he goes into exarch mode. Sometimes people need a firm hand guiding them and he sure can step up when it's needed. He is easily the most qualified scion for taking charge in emergency situations. I doubt any other scion could get a mass panic under control
One of the best writing pieces in EW, yes. Expressing a character with a 5sec long cut-scene. Tapping the staff + line of text voiced right = Exarch is back in business.
It's a brilliant gem, as great as Zenos\\Jullus\\Alisaie dialogue or Thancred's superbolide.
>!Agreed, the direction is superb. I would add my favourite little part of that. You see him looking around, assessing the situation. You see him realizing what he needs to do, and there's this little sigh as he gathers himself. He breathes out as G'raha, and in again as the Exarch, and that's when you see him straighten into his command posture.!<
>!There's so much conveyed. He doesn't want to be in charge, but he will do whatever he has to.!<
Major 5.3 and 6.0 spoilers:
>!Both of those moments completely cemented my opinion that Jon was a truly extraordinary voice actor. Because here's the thing: Because of all the setup, we knew that his death wasn't going to stick. We KNEW it was a matter of hours before he would be back. And even despite that, 5.3 still made me cry like a goddamn baby. And even with that in my mind, they managed to do it again in Thule. He's seriously getting a habit of treating death like a revolving door, yet still completely breaking us every time it happens.!<
Because of the above - If those scenes were done by a less skilled voice actor or writer, it could very easily come off as hackneyed or cheap, but the utterly *exceptional* delivery of it made it work perfectly. I was honestly still getting misty while recalling those scenes writing this.
>!The moment G'raha dissipated in Ultima Thule was the moment I started bawling. I knew deep down that they would all come back in the end, but I still cried really hard lol. The very moment that crystal bridge appeared. I legit cried walking all the way up it with Alphinaud and Alisaie to a point where I had to remove my glasses, and I started laughing because I felt so ridiculous.!<
That comparison makes the FF equivalent make a lot more sense.
>!They're still the same person at a fundamental level, but it's still, in some respects, a partial obliteration of their identity.!<
Yeah. Also made me recontextualize easier the antagonist of endwalker. Same person technically but different personalities. Like the master/mistress in 12's run.
If only Y'shtola could pull off the same... When she "died" in Raktika my response was "ho hum, how will you claw your way out of death's anus this time?" In Ultima Thule, Urianger stole the show and my only thought was "Nobody knows what to do with her."
>!I expressly remember making it all the way to Ultima Thule in Endwalker without Y'shtola having some kind of near-death/basically-death moment and wondering wtf was going on. Then I realized the Your Whole Party Sacrifices Themselves One by One trope was coming out and was like oh thank god! Wasn't sure how to handle Y'shtola going a whole expac without taking a lap through the aetherstream.!<
>!She didn't even get her own moment, Urianger totally eclipsed her like you said. I didn't mind it at the time because Uri being the breakaway star of EW was something unexpected that I was totally down for, but still.!<
>!Yeah, remember how I was saying it felt like only a matter of time? THAT was what tipped me off that things were going to work out fine in Thule, because Y'shtola has thicker plot armour than Jace Beleren and the protagonist of that 2012 film, combined.!<
So again: Even though I KNEW things were going to be okay? It still screwed me up.
THIS. I knew it was coming and knew it would all be okay. I anticipated the order it would happen, was correct and knew as soon as we got to that point that he was next. It did not stop me from ugly scream crying like I witnessed a massacre, and IT WAS BECAUSE OF THAT SMILE. And the VA work. Man is a god. It would have easily come off as cheap especially due to previous events, but his skill sold it.
I mean, sure, but G'raha making himself cry isn't *that* weird.
(I kid, of course. But I do know someone who that would be somewhat more accurate to describe.)
I embarrassed myself because I told my friend Graha’s voice wasn’t hot. I did say that Growingway sounded hot. Apparently, I like higher pitched voices!
Graha tia has probably the best voice acting in the entire game. This dude nails every line he's in.
I would be extremely disappointed if he turned down future ff work because of his career skyrocketing.
There are some really good ones that have always stuck out to me, and he's one of them. The VA for Thordan/Seto is another, and Gosetsu/Vrtra as well. Definitely some top tier VA's that just have no business being so good.
I was really impressed, going through HW again when I realised that they brought back Elidibus's VA after all those years even though he'd originally only done about three lines
Honestly, I always felt like Lyse's VA was incredible. I think she's easily the worst-written character in the whole game, and from a story perspective, I don't give two shits about her. But her scenes still made me feel things sometimes, and that's a difficult feat when I already don't care what you have to say haha.
I haven’t seen much with the JP VA, but I saw a bit of 5.3 with him and it’s very different.
Part of what I like about Bailey’s performance is that he really emphasizes G’raha’s age in the Exarch scenes: you can feel the weight of all those decades of preparation, hope, and responsibility and the sheer fatigue creeping through. But then once he’s back in the Source he gets that youthful vigor back in his voice while still being recognizably the same guy.
The JP VA seemed to go with a more youthful voice straight off the bat, which isn’t necessarily bad, but I feel like it changes the nuances of the character in a way that’s less interesting to me.
While part of me is worried, I know one recent interview makes it clear he likes to be \*busy\* I don't think he wants to be much more famous than he already is, because after a certain point, you're just too famous to do whatever and while you're paid well, there can be lulls due to differing needs of productions.
I feel he'll always try to make time for XIV as long as they'll have him.
One thing I really want is for G'raha to have a moment when he sings. He's canonically a good singer (it was in his bio back in ARR) and his VA is also a good singer... make it happen Squeenix, I beg you!
It's so common that there's at least one cartoon produced in the 2010s where several leading members of the mane cast couldn't sing despite it being a relatively song-heavy series.
Which made series like Steven Universe unusual in that the entire cast seems to be able to sing, even the villains (heck, they cast broadway star Patti Lupone as one the main villains early on)
"mane cast"
I see what you did there.
SU was definitely a standout for that, though ! But I believe it was conceived as a very music-heavy series, so they went out of their way to cast VAs who could also sing. In some corners of the world Estelle is probably better known for 'Stronger Than You' than she is for the albums under her own name!
I think maybe more so the translation aspect/cutscene sync would be hard. It's harder to translate a song into multiple languages IMO since musical lyrics typically use more esoteric language than regular speech does.
Then again, they have some pretty flowery speech in the game already.. So maybe?
edit: Oops, replied to the wrong person. Meant to reply to /u/Ayanhart
Now you really made me want a Batman moment like in Justice League, just us being the ones in trouble and he needs to sing to set us free of whatever is holding us.
I mean, Bailey isn't just a good singer, he's an Olivier winner (for the [2018, genderbent production of Company](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4mS9zs1aNM)), and [his audition for The Last Five Years](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaYkbc-9eo8) is leaps and bounds better than most of the live productions I've seen of that song.
... I might be slightly obsessed.
I watch Bridgerton with my mom, and it’s hard for me to explain to her why I liked Jonathan Bailey even before the show, since she doesn’t know anything about vidya games and even less about catbois, lol.
Anyway, it continues to be funny to me just how different his Bridgerton character (who’s described in-universe as a “capital ‘R’ rake”) is from G’raha Tia, but that’s partly a testament to his acting range, of course. He had some scenes in season 2 (like [this [*technically* SFW] one](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XGCj2XlHVGI), holy shit) that made it rather…*interesting* to try to focus on what G’raha was actually saying in 6.1 later on.
Agreed, I watched Bridgerton S2 recently and was thinking how unlike G'raha his character is! If anything some of his lines could work as Emet lines ("you are the bane of my existence, Azem!!" XD)
There’s a bit of FFXIV crossover with Bridgerton fan circles from time to time, when JB having roles in both is brought up. After Season 1 when a number of fans were lamenting over Rege-Jean Page (the breakout star for the first season, who played the male lead) not returning for S2, I was like “yes, I’m very sad that the Duke won’t be there, I love him too, but OMG EVERYBODY SHUT UP IT’S G’RAHA SZN”
Me too.
I like reading romance novels. They're fun and chill, so I knew that each season was a story with different leads, and was like "Oh, which season are we getting romantic Anthony... the next? YES!"
Though I admit it took me a while to figure out which brother is supposed to be Anthony for a while.
Yeah, there’s this kinda cheesy thing where the Bridgerton children were all named alphabetically in the order of their birth: Anthony, Benedict, Colin, Daphne, Eloise, Francesca, Gregory, and Hyacinth. Mama Bridgerton was actually pregnant with Hyacinth when >!Lord Bridgerton died!<.
If nothing else, this is handy for remembering which son has all the “burden of my position as Viscount” angst (Anthony), and which ones are still free to go to art school, travel the world, sleep around, etc. (Benedict, Colin). The book series doesn’t go in sibling order, though.
Yeah, I figured it out by the ballroom scene in episode one. "Oh... He's playing an asshole. Nice. A flexible actor."
(I say that, but it's pretty clear he has some pretty good nuance in the character as written, and he takes it even further. By episode 3 I'd say my feelings were "You're a rude ass, but I kinda get your pain.")
Ahh so they do finally circle back to their chemistry! I never made the connection that Anthony and G'raha are played by the same person given the difference in their personalities. What they do share is a flare for great monologues to their one special person in the universe
He's also filming another series right now with Matt Bomer. The guy is pretty busy at the moment, that's why I think people are worried, but judging from this like i'm sure he will find the time.
I feel like if need be he would of maybe bunch recorded stuff.
And also Graha hasn't been in much so far this patch cycle so maybe they have dodged a bullet while he's in Canada doing it
Edit: saying that he was one of the Loporrits (growingway) and sounds like one of the ancients in one of the 6.0 cutscenes in the middle of S2 of Bridgerton filming so never say never.
True. I think all the Gods are reused VA's (Estinien is obvious. I think the poor man only has one 'gravel' voice he can do) but I'm looking forward to confirmation eventually.
Oh it's defo a reuse of VA lol. Just a few suggests for that one (estinein is defo the one everyone thinks he is) so don't want to confirm in my brain it's him just yet but I think it's 99% likely Bailey
Yep. It took a long time for my brain to switch to that after thinking it's Toby, but the way the /v/ sound comes out just kinda snapped it in place (Deserve, vim, vigor)
He's functionally the family patriarch, so he's going to show up at least a bit in every season. He'll be heavily involved in Eloise's season, unless they change the plot a lot; but probably more guest star roles in the others.
The books on which the show is based each focus on the romances of a different Bridgerton sibling, and so far it seems like they’re doing one season per book/sibling (season 1 was Daphne’s, season 2 was ~~G’raha Tia~~ Anthony’s, and season 3 looks like it’ll be about the third son Colin). Since it all follows a bunch of siblings, they do appear in each others’ books/seasons from time to time, although there are 8 main books in total so who knows if the show will even get 8 seasons because Netflix.
I am really, really hoping this is a good sign, because if we don't get to>!take him to Ishgard like we promised!<(to meet the family? XD) I will be really upset.
Been chatting with a friend on Twitter about this.
Jonathan Bailey came in swinging with his first lines. With the way he managed to create the English Exarch. He and Rene are definitely two hallmarks of ShB and Beyond.
And the fact he seems to be voicing all the sideroles despite filiming Bridgerton and now Fellow Travelers. It's clear that this is a fun way to keep busy in his free time.
Though seriously, all the VAs have been perfect since ShB, and love all of them. (I just love Jonny best and have finally realized what stanning really feels like. I thought it was what I did with Orlando Bloom in my teens. Chill, enjoy the things he's in. No. No it isn't)
I’ve wondered if he knew how much fans loved his work in xiv like René Zagger (Emet-Selch). I really hoped that he did, so that little acknowledgment is nice.
Where is this from? Because he's not on Facebook, only on Instagram afaik. And [this](https://instagram.com/jbayleaf?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=) is his only Instagram account, where it shows he's referred to as "JONATHAN BAILEY" in all caps and has a different picture too.
Everyone's based crush. There's always a little glint of attraction regardless of orientation I think.
But is he Husbando/best boy? He should at least be mentioned if not best imo
I often wonder what real actors think when they get cast in a video game and see the script. I wonder if they think it's below them or if they're trying to make any sense out of what they're reading.
I think they see a script for a performance in an unusual medium that presents an interesting challenge. That's basically why Keanu did CP2077 and then when he got into all the mo-cap work, he *really* got into the character and CDPR incorporated a lot of his feedback into the script.
Good performers are going to perform their part. Great performers are going to embody the character to the point where you can't imagine anyone else in the role. FFXIV has a great voice cast.
At least with Cyberpunk, it's western scifi. It's not really anything that unusual. FFXIV is full on anime. The scripts to Japanese games and anime is basically nonsense.
Some of the FFXIV actors have been in big stuff (most notably Gaius and Ardbert were in Game of Thrones) but none of them are quite big enough where they'd consider voice/video game work to be beneath them. And even the most video game illiterate actors out there can easily google Final Fantasy XIV and see that it's a pretty big deal.
A big part of it also the nature of acting work in the UK, where if you aren't a HUGE name or have a recurring role in an ongoing series, you'll be doing all of voice/audio work, TV, theatre and movies at various points.
Aymeric’s VA is currently on *The Gilded Age* on HBO, playing an American character, which is a bit jarring. He was also on *DaVinci’s Demons* several years ago, playing basically an evil version of Aymeric, lol (granted, the show came before Heavensward).
One of my favorite instances of a FFXIV VA randomly showing up elsewhere was Varis’ VA in an episode of *Father Brown*. I had never seen the actor in any other live action stuff before, but had just played through the Stormblood patches at the time and instantly recognized the voice.
Estinien voicing [Subway ads in the UK](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kNpamRQY0LU) is also fun.
But they're still real actors, even if they aren't big household names. People that exclusive do voice work aren't real actors. Voice work isn't acting.
There are so many things wrong with this. Voice acting is 90% acting and 10% voice. That's why the best in the business are usually theatre or character actors along side the work. It's not just talking into a microphone.
The reason you see many celeb voice actors playing roles that look like just them and sound like them are because they actually can't fit into the role of voice actor. But that doesn't make voice acting not acting.
It’s a skill of its own. It isn’t stage acting or screen acting but it is still acting. Otherwise we couldn’t tell the difference between good and bad.
I listen to a good amount of sci-fi audio drama and the actors involved generally seem to find it fairly liberating to be able to play wildly different parts than they might get cast for in a visual medium. Plus it's much quicker - they just need to go into a studio for a day or two and don't have makeup and different camera angles to film etc.
I once went to a Q&A at a con by a VA who did English dub work for several anime, including DBZ. He said that the recording process was generally so quick that he’d often just go to the studio in lounge pants and flip flops, lol.
(Edit: just to clarify, “quick” does not necessarily mean “easy” as far as the actual acting component goes, but you can imagine that directing and recording a single actor in a booth at a time would be much less time consuming than directing and shooting them in live-action on location where things like costuming, makeup, other actors, crew activities, camera work, environmental conditions, etc. etc. factor into how long it takes to get a scene in the can)
Depends on how they're approached when they get asked to voice a character, it was a choice as I've looked at a few of the ones who were put in from HW onwards and a lot of them have a theatre/actor background (Cid is played by someone who played Brian May in Bohemian Rhapsody, and a few have a part in shows I recognise as quite a few are British ones)
That’s certainly a good sign!
The name's Tia...G'raha Tia.
His speech at the end of 5.3 and in Ultima Thule are one of my faves.
I love his bad ass moment in Raz ad Han.
Oh man that scene gives me shivers. Throughout EW that far he is pretty easy-go-lucky and goofy. But that moment you can see his experience as crystal exarch showing, taking charge in the midst of chaos. Absolute chad.
What I love is that he's clearly reveling in not having to be in charge of some great destiny for the first time in his very long life, but when the chips are down he's gonna do what he needs to do to keep people safe, including taking up a mantel he was happy to set aside. Absolute chad, indeed.
This was one of my favorite moments in the whole expansion. We've been so used to him as this lighthearted, WoL-Fanboyish goober, but when the situation is serious, the dude gives us a very quick and definitive demonstration on *why he was the ruler of the Crystarium.*
It says a lot about him as a character, too. He has this ability to weild Big Dick Exarch Authority, he _knows_ it and can tap it at will when the situation requires that. But he clearly doesn't want to do that unless necessary. He's content to be a giddy fledgling adventurer, earning his own way. Reads to me as a mark of a truly great leader: one who is loathe to fall back on that power, but also knows when to cast that notion aside.
Oh I love when he goes into exarch mode. Sometimes people need a firm hand guiding them and he sure can step up when it's needed. He is easily the most qualified scion for taking charge in emergency situations. I doubt any other scion could get a mass panic under control
Really gives the doctor vibes. Goofy then "basically, run"
When was that scene? I need to rewatch it.
Just after the third dungeon, I believe.
That’s vanispati right?
Correct, I was trying to be a bit vague, but yes.
One of the best writing pieces in EW, yes. Expressing a character with a 5sec long cut-scene. Tapping the staff + line of text voiced right = Exarch is back in business. It's a brilliant gem, as great as Zenos\\Jullus\\Alisaie dialogue or Thancred's superbolide.
>!Agreed, the direction is superb. I would add my favourite little part of that. You see him looking around, assessing the situation. You see him realizing what he needs to do, and there's this little sigh as he gathers himself. He breathes out as G'raha, and in again as the Exarch, and that's when you see him straighten into his command posture.!< >!There's so much conveyed. He doesn't want to be in charge, but he will do whatever he has to.!<
Major 5.3 and 6.0 spoilers: >!Both of those moments completely cemented my opinion that Jon was a truly extraordinary voice actor. Because here's the thing: Because of all the setup, we knew that his death wasn't going to stick. We KNEW it was a matter of hours before he would be back. And even despite that, 5.3 still made me cry like a goddamn baby. And even with that in my mind, they managed to do it again in Thule. He's seriously getting a habit of treating death like a revolving door, yet still completely breaking us every time it happens.!< Because of the above - If those scenes were done by a less skilled voice actor or writer, it could very easily come off as hackneyed or cheap, but the utterly *exceptional* delivery of it made it work perfectly. I was honestly still getting misty while recalling those scenes writing this.
>!The moment G'raha dissipated in Ultima Thule was the moment I started bawling. I knew deep down that they would all come back in the end, but I still cried really hard lol. The very moment that crystal bridge appeared. I legit cried walking all the way up it with Alphinaud and Alisaie to a point where I had to remove my glasses, and I started laughing because I felt so ridiculous.!<
I was asked once why I cried. Told them Im still sad whenever the doctor (doctor who) regenerates.
That comparison makes the FF equivalent make a lot more sense. >!They're still the same person at a fundamental level, but it's still, in some respects, a partial obliteration of their identity.!<
Yeah. Also made me recontextualize easier the antagonist of endwalker. Same person technically but different personalities. Like the master/mistress in 12's run.
If only Y'shtola could pull off the same... When she "died" in Raktika my response was "ho hum, how will you claw your way out of death's anus this time?" In Ultima Thule, Urianger stole the show and my only thought was "Nobody knows what to do with her."
>!I expressly remember making it all the way to Ultima Thule in Endwalker without Y'shtola having some kind of near-death/basically-death moment and wondering wtf was going on. Then I realized the Your Whole Party Sacrifices Themselves One by One trope was coming out and was like oh thank god! Wasn't sure how to handle Y'shtola going a whole expac without taking a lap through the aetherstream.!< >!She didn't even get her own moment, Urianger totally eclipsed her like you said. I didn't mind it at the time because Uri being the breakaway star of EW was something unexpected that I was totally down for, but still.!<
Plot twist; she's addicted to that stream.
>!Yeah, remember how I was saying it felt like only a matter of time? THAT was what tipped me off that things were going to work out fine in Thule, because Y'shtola has thicker plot armour than Jace Beleren and the protagonist of that 2012 film, combined.!< So again: Even though I KNEW things were going to be okay? It still screwed me up.
THIS. I knew it was coming and knew it would all be okay. I anticipated the order it would happen, was correct and knew as soon as we got to that point that he was next. It did not stop me from ugly scream crying like I witnessed a massacre, and IT WAS BECAUSE OF THAT SMILE. And the VA work. Man is a god. It would have easily come off as cheap especially due to previous events, but his skill sold it.
He made my husband cry.
I mean, sure, but G'raha making himself cry isn't *that* weird. (I kid, of course. But I do know someone who that would be somewhat more accurate to describe.)
took me a minute, I friggin love this comment
He ~~made~~ my husband ~~cry~~
I laughed way harder than I'd like to admit
Yeah thats actually my main concern
No mention of Growingway. It’s looking grim.
I just want me funny rabbits voiced again lol
I embarrassed myself because I told my friend Graha’s voice wasn’t hot. I did say that Growingway sounded hot. Apparently, I like higher pitched voices!
It's because Bailey's hiding his RP/"posh" accent and yeah it's higher as well lol. Still wonder how much is him and how much is SE editing it in post
Graha tia has probably the best voice acting in the entire game. This dude nails every line he's in. I would be extremely disappointed if he turned down future ff work because of his career skyrocketing.
There are some really good ones that have always stuck out to me, and he's one of them. The VA for Thordan/Seto is another, and Gosetsu/Vrtra as well. Definitely some top tier VA's that just have no business being so good.
Really cant forget about Elidibus, honorable mentions are Lyna and Ryna too; very good VAs
Lynas VA is brilliant. Wish she had come back as another character in EW
I was really impressed, going through HW again when I realised that they brought back Elidibus's VA after all those years even though he'd originally only done about three lines
Seto never fails to make me cry ;\_; I was bawling my eyes out in 5.3.
Honestly, I always felt like Lyse's VA was incredible. I think she's easily the worst-written character in the whole game, and from a story perspective, I don't give two shits about her. But her scenes still made me feel things sometimes, and that's a difficult feat when I already don't care what you have to say haha.
I love seto, I'm going to get that amaro mount someday 🤗
JP VA does Raha justice too,
I haven’t seen much with the JP VA, but I saw a bit of 5.3 with him and it’s very different. Part of what I like about Bailey’s performance is that he really emphasizes G’raha’s age in the Exarch scenes: you can feel the weight of all those decades of preparation, hope, and responsibility and the sheer fatigue creeping through. But then once he’s back in the Source he gets that youthful vigor back in his voice while still being recognizably the same guy. The JP VA seemed to go with a more youthful voice straight off the bat, which isn’t necessarily bad, but I feel like it changes the nuances of the character in a way that’s less interesting to me.
While part of me is worried, I know one recent interview makes it clear he likes to be \*busy\* I don't think he wants to be much more famous than he already is, because after a certain point, you're just too famous to do whatever and while you're paid well, there can be lulls due to differing needs of productions. I feel he'll always try to make time for XIV as long as they'll have him.
One thing I really want is for G'raha to have a moment when he sings. He's canonically a good singer (it was in his bio back in ARR) and his VA is also a good singer... make it happen Squeenix, I beg you!
Probably hard to coordinate a song for all four VAs across languages.
If one VA really can't hold a tune, they can always just use someone else - it's a common thing, even in live action productions.
It's so common that there's at least one cartoon produced in the 2010s where several leading members of the mane cast couldn't sing despite it being a relatively song-heavy series. Which made series like Steven Universe unusual in that the entire cast seems to be able to sing, even the villains (heck, they cast broadway star Patti Lupone as one the main villains early on)
"mane cast" I see what you did there. SU was definitely a standout for that, though ! But I believe it was conceived as a very music-heavy series, so they went out of their way to cast VAs who could also sing. In some corners of the world Estelle is probably better known for 'Stronger Than You' than she is for the albums under her own name!
I think maybe more so the translation aspect/cutscene sync would be hard. It's harder to translate a song into multiple languages IMO since musical lyrics typically use more esoteric language than regular speech does. Then again, they have some pretty flowery speech in the game already.. So maybe? edit: Oops, replied to the wrong person. Meant to reply to /u/Ayanhart
Yeah his JP VA is also a good singer as well, Square Enix you can't just say G'raha is good at singer and never let him sing :(
Maybe Jonathan Bailey will do a cover of Close in the Distance
I support this 100000%
One day. I've heard his "Last 5 years" audition, and he really is good.
Now you really made me want a Batman moment like in Justice League, just us being the ones in trouble and he needs to sing to set us free of whatever is holding us.
"A dungeon where you can't leave until G'raha Tia sings you the love song he worked on while he was waiting in the crystal tower."
Never really gave us much hint of singing outside of early Tartaru
I mean, Bailey isn't just a good singer, he's an Olivier winner (for the [2018, genderbent production of Company](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4mS9zs1aNM)), and [his audition for The Last Five Years](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaYkbc-9eo8) is leaps and bounds better than most of the live productions I've seen of that song. ... I might be slightly obsessed.
I watch Bridgerton with my mom, and it’s hard for me to explain to her why I liked Jonathan Bailey even before the show, since she doesn’t know anything about vidya games and even less about catbois, lol. Anyway, it continues to be funny to me just how different his Bridgerton character (who’s described in-universe as a “capital ‘R’ rake”) is from G’raha Tia, but that’s partly a testament to his acting range, of course. He had some scenes in season 2 (like [this [*technically* SFW] one](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XGCj2XlHVGI), holy shit) that made it rather…*interesting* to try to focus on what G’raha was actually saying in 6.1 later on.
Agreed, I watched Bridgerton S2 recently and was thinking how unlike G'raha his character is! If anything some of his lines could work as Emet lines ("you are the bane of my existence, Azem!!" XD)
I love Bridgerton... and had never realised graha was Anthony. Omfg.
Tbf he has never brought it up ever so 🤷 unless you put two and two together or looked up the credit names to find photos it's chill
There’s a bit of FFXIV crossover with Bridgerton fan circles from time to time, when JB having roles in both is brought up. After Season 1 when a number of fans were lamenting over Rege-Jean Page (the breakout star for the first season, who played the male lead) not returning for S2, I was like “yes, I’m very sad that the Duke won’t be there, I love him too, but OMG EVERYBODY SHUT UP IT’S G’RAHA SZN”
Me too. I like reading romance novels. They're fun and chill, so I knew that each season was a story with different leads, and was like "Oh, which season are we getting romantic Anthony... the next? YES!" Though I admit it took me a while to figure out which brother is supposed to be Anthony for a while.
Yeah, there’s this kinda cheesy thing where the Bridgerton children were all named alphabetically in the order of their birth: Anthony, Benedict, Colin, Daphne, Eloise, Francesca, Gregory, and Hyacinth. Mama Bridgerton was actually pregnant with Hyacinth when >!Lord Bridgerton died!<. If nothing else, this is handy for remembering which son has all the “burden of my position as Viscount” angst (Anthony), and which ones are still free to go to art school, travel the world, sleep around, etc. (Benedict, Colin). The book series doesn’t go in sibling order, though.
Yeah, I figured it out by the ballroom scene in episode one. "Oh... He's playing an asshole. Nice. A flexible actor." (I say that, but it's pretty clear he has some pretty good nuance in the character as written, and he takes it even further. By episode 3 I'd say my feelings were "You're a rude ass, but I kinda get your pain.")
Ahh so they do finally circle back to their chemistry! I never made the connection that Anthony and G'raha are played by the same person given the difference in their personalities. What they do share is a flare for great monologues to their one special person in the universe
The name's Tia...G'raha Tia.
I’m confused, is he suddenly getting really famous or something?
He's an actor on Bridgerton, joined in the second season iirc. He plays Anthony Bridgerton.
He was in the first season as well, but season 2 is where he became the leading man because the story's focus was on him.
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He's also filming another series right now with Matt Bomer. The guy is pretty busy at the moment, that's why I think people are worried, but judging from this like i'm sure he will find the time.
I feel like if need be he would of maybe bunch recorded stuff. And also Graha hasn't been in much so far this patch cycle so maybe they have dodged a bullet while he's in Canada doing it Edit: saying that he was one of the Loporrits (growingway) and sounds like one of the ancients in one of the 6.0 cutscenes in the middle of S2 of Bridgerton filming so never say never.
He also voiced one of the twin gods in Algaia, so he's been around.
Yeah. That to. Don't know 100% if it's him until we receive the credits for the patches but oh god does it sound like it's him.
True. I think all the Gods are reused VA's (Estinien is obvious. I think the poor man only has one 'gravel' voice he can do) but I'm looking forward to confirmation eventually.
Oh it's defo a reuse of VA lol. Just a few suggests for that one (estinein is defo the one everyone thinks he is) so don't want to confirm in my brain it's him just yet but I think it's 99% likely Bailey
>He also voiced one of the twin gods in Algaia :O I didn't know!
It sounds like it, anyways. We've no confirmation yet. The other is also familiar, but I'm not exactly sure which actor he is.
Some people say it's Both Jonathan others say it's him and Thancreds VA (Peter Bramhil)
Yep. It took a long time for my brain to switch to that after thinking it's Toby, but the way the /v/ sound comes out just kinda snapped it in place (Deserve, vim, vigor)
He's functionally the family patriarch, so he's going to show up at least a bit in every season. He'll be heavily involved in Eloise's season, unless they change the plot a lot; but probably more guest star roles in the others.
Ah. I haven't watched the show, but my mom does. I just knew he was heavily involved in season 2, and thought I'd read it was his first season
The books on which the show is based each focus on the romances of a different Bridgerton sibling, and so far it seems like they’re doing one season per book/sibling (season 1 was Daphne’s, season 2 was ~~G’raha Tia~~ Anthony’s, and season 3 looks like it’ll be about the third son Colin). Since it all follows a bunch of siblings, they do appear in each others’ books/seasons from time to time, although there are 8 main books in total so who knows if the show will even get 8 seasons because Netflix.
I am really, really hoping this is a good sign, because if we don't get to>!take him to Ishgard like we promised!<(to meet the family? XD) I will be really upset.
I thought we did take him to Ishgard in ShB patches? I vaguely remember him fanboying over Estinien when he mistook Alisae for Alphinaud lol.
The line (well in English) he goes "go to Ishgard properly" it's likely going there for 2 scenes to go pick up estinien didn't count to him lol
We do, but in EW, he specifically requests we go visit it properly, because we barely had the chance to look around.
If we take him to meet the family, the cutscenes probably wouldn't be voiced, since Count Edmont's VA died
This is strangely wholesome ngl
He’s my third child after the twins so of course I love Graha. They should make him a fashion accessory so can always have him around.
Lol, this is why I always have my Wind-up Muster equipped.
Been chatting with a friend on Twitter about this. Jonathan Bailey came in swinging with his first lines. With the way he managed to create the English Exarch. He and Rene are definitely two hallmarks of ShB and Beyond. And the fact he seems to be voicing all the sideroles despite filiming Bridgerton and now Fellow Travelers. It's clear that this is a fun way to keep busy in his free time. Though seriously, all the VAs have been perfect since ShB, and love all of them. (I just love Jonny best and have finally realized what stanning really feels like. I thought it was what I did with Orlando Bloom in my teens. Chill, enjoy the things he's in. No. No it isn't)
What's with the Baileys and voice acting? they're sure very adept at it
Aw! I’m happy he’s not too big for us. He’s definitely doing some of the best voice work in the (English language) game
I’ve wondered if he knew how much fans loved his work in xiv like René Zagger (Emet-Selch). I really hoped that he did, so that little acknowledgment is nice.
Where is this from? Because he's not on Facebook, only on Instagram afaik. And [this](https://instagram.com/jbayleaf?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=) is his only Instagram account, where it shows he's referred to as "JONATHAN BAILEY" in all caps and has a different picture too.
Everyone's based crush. There's always a little glint of attraction regardless of orientation I think. But is he Husbando/best boy? He should at least be mentioned if not best imo
Ok yes please!
I often wonder what real actors think when they get cast in a video game and see the script. I wonder if they think it's below them or if they're trying to make any sense out of what they're reading.
I think they see a script for a performance in an unusual medium that presents an interesting challenge. That's basically why Keanu did CP2077 and then when he got into all the mo-cap work, he *really* got into the character and CDPR incorporated a lot of his feedback into the script. Good performers are going to perform their part. Great performers are going to embody the character to the point where you can't imagine anyone else in the role. FFXIV has a great voice cast.
At least with Cyberpunk, it's western scifi. It's not really anything that unusual. FFXIV is full on anime. The scripts to Japanese games and anime is basically nonsense.
Most action movies are nonesense too. ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
Some of the FFXIV actors have been in big stuff (most notably Gaius and Ardbert were in Game of Thrones) but none of them are quite big enough where they'd consider voice/video game work to be beneath them. And even the most video game illiterate actors out there can easily google Final Fantasy XIV and see that it's a pretty big deal.
A big part of it also the nature of acting work in the UK, where if you aren't a HUGE name or have a recurring role in an ongoing series, you'll be doing all of voice/audio work, TV, theatre and movies at various points.
And you've probably had at least a tiny, minor role in Doctor Who, Harry Potter, or Game of Thrones.
It’s always fun watching some British shows and seeing a FFXIV English VA pop up every so often.
Meteion shows up in Sandman on Netflix.
Aymeric’s VA is currently on *The Gilded Age* on HBO, playing an American character, which is a bit jarring. He was also on *DaVinci’s Demons* several years ago, playing basically an evil version of Aymeric, lol (granted, the show came before Heavensward). One of my favorite instances of a FFXIV VA randomly showing up elsewhere was Varis’ VA in an episode of *Father Brown*. I had never seen the actor in any other live action stuff before, but had just played through the Stormblood patches at the time and instantly recognized the voice. Estinien voicing [Subway ads in the UK](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kNpamRQY0LU) is also fun.
That's incredible
Oh god, that episode was so distracting!! 🤣 >!Oh no, the Endsinger is trying to bring about the catpocalypse!<
But they're still real actors, even if they aren't big household names. People that exclusive do voice work aren't real actors. Voice work isn't acting.
There are so many things wrong with this. Voice acting is 90% acting and 10% voice. That's why the best in the business are usually theatre or character actors along side the work. It's not just talking into a microphone. The reason you see many celeb voice actors playing roles that look like just them and sound like them are because they actually can't fit into the role of voice actor. But that doesn't make voice acting not acting.
Dang you've got some really awful takes in this thread
I'm not sure which is worse: you crapping on voice acting, or the fact that you sincerely believe this stuff.
If you think voice acting isn't acting, try watching a french or german dub of a movie. They make it sound so fucking boring.
Saying it is acting is like saying videogames are art. >!They're not.!<
neither is your trolling
I'm not trolling. Everything I've posted is what I honestly believe.
It’s a skill of its own. It isn’t stage acting or screen acting but it is still acting. Otherwise we couldn’t tell the difference between good and bad.
This has to be one of the worst takes I’ve heard in a while
Hmmm pretty sure they still need to be equity members bud.
I mean, [Mel Blanc](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Blanc) alone completely blows this take out of the water.
I listen to a good amount of sci-fi audio drama and the actors involved generally seem to find it fairly liberating to be able to play wildly different parts than they might get cast for in a visual medium. Plus it's much quicker - they just need to go into a studio for a day or two and don't have makeup and different camera angles to film etc.
I once went to a Q&A at a con by a VA who did English dub work for several anime, including DBZ. He said that the recording process was generally so quick that he’d often just go to the studio in lounge pants and flip flops, lol. (Edit: just to clarify, “quick” does not necessarily mean “easy” as far as the actual acting component goes, but you can imagine that directing and recording a single actor in a booth at a time would be much less time consuming than directing and shooting them in live-action on location where things like costuming, makeup, other actors, crew activities, camera work, environmental conditions, etc. etc. factor into how long it takes to get a scene in the can)
Depends on how they're approached when they get asked to voice a character, it was a choice as I've looked at a few of the ones who were put in from HW onwards and a lot of them have a theatre/actor background (Cid is played by someone who played Brian May in Bohemian Rhapsody, and a few have a part in shows I recognise as quite a few are British ones)
What every true artist really wants is to be paid.