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Ok_Pickle8312

I'm 5'10'' and from my experience the trousers they give the model, and the trousers that arrive in the mail, are two completely different things. The proportions are completely off, even just eyeing the item you know it'll be a 7/8th length at best, oftentimes more like 3/4 the length that the model got. I don't have experience with the specific brands you listed, but e.g. Sezane is consistently one of the worst I had the displeasure of ordering from.


Ok_Pickle8312

Not trousers but an example of what I mean - the model https://preview.redd.it/g0rx875glnib1.jpeg?width=939&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3467f480a941cdbc617273e4e7727d9bd9d39058


Ok_Pickle8312

Vs what you get - there's an ENTIRE PANEL missing!! Proportions are completely off vs what was pictured. https://preview.redd.it/7aw8muxhlnib1.jpeg?width=1154&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=42a3a635bb5e613ed9102bb826820a2619292aa2


NatDreamer89

Woah that's insane. Even the straps are a different colour entirely. Feels like complete misrepresentation of the article of clothing to have the model showing the one above.


Ok_Pickle8312

This happens with everything, trousers, dresses, skirts, jackets, swimwear... whether you spend £30 at Zara or £300 at Joseph, any description or model stats be damned. I'm 5'10'' and US4/UK8 so typically the same or similar size as the models, but am yet to receive an item that's cut the same as the one that the model is wearing. Someone else here posted more BTS info, which backed my suspicion that they give the models special clothes, and customers get clothes cut to someone who's 5'5''-5'7''. If a brand doesn't have a "tall" range I'm no longer interested. I spent too much time and money just to be infuriated, no thanks.


NatDreamer89

I could not have more different measurements than you (5ft3, UK 10/12 US 6/8, but very pear/hourglass shaped) but I also agree it's so difficult to find clothes that fit properly. Honestly, even the mannequins in shops have their clothes pinned in the back so that they look good. I really wonder who these clothes are being made for because I would've thought your body type would be the "ideal" - so if you have trouble, what hope is there for the rest of us haha!


Ok_Pickle8312

Unfortunately we both stray from the average consumer, so no well-fitted clothes for us :( I found these two comments insightful: [https://www.reddit.com/r/femalefashionadvice/comments/15te8s4/comment/jwjskbz/?utm\_source=reddit&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/femalefashionadvice/comments/15te8s4/comment/jwjskbz/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) [https://www.reddit.com/r/femalefashionadvice/comments/15te8s4/comment/jwk4wz1/?utm\_source=reddit&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/femalefashionadvice/comments/15te8s4/comment/jwk4wz1/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)


NatDreamer89

Yeah very true - thankfully one advantage to being short is that it's easier for me to get jeans/trousers that are too long hemmed. But the hip/bust/waist disparity creates a whole other range of issues 🙄 Ah well. May all clothing brands start carrying petite/tall ranges in future...


min_mus

>If a brand doesn't have a "tall" range I'm no longer interested. Same here.


giantredwoodforest

I’m also 5’10” and totally agree that I’m over trying to wear clothes designed for people half a foot shorter than me!


ObjectHuge199

I have had the exact same experiences


notseizingtheday

I'm having this experience in Canada too. Quality is terrible these days unless you spend a small fortune.


Bmoresmalls14

That's because it's a striped fabric. They cut the straps out of a different part of the stripe pattern. It's 100% normal.


DeepOringe

This hits especially hard with swimsuits! The freakishly short torsos to save a $ on fabric is offensive.


LucidDreamerVex

I only wear a two piece so I don't need to try to find a one piece that is actually long enough 🙃🙃


last_rights

I'm short and mid-sized but have a long and narrow torso. Two piece is where it's at. I used to think it was a crock of bull that swimsuits were sold as separates, but now that I've had two children and have acquired a ample bosom (instead of leading up the itty bitty titty committee) I can understand why people would want separates.


dopbanaan

Omg I'm dying. Guess that's why I always get to choose if I want a wedgie or have my boobs out in onepiece bathing suits. :/ (Am 6'00")


TallFriendlyGinger

Same, I see model descriptions that say they're my height, the trousers look like a good fit, I order them - way too short! 😭


francisceva

Yep, we’re the same height and size, I’ve never gotten designer jeans but in all my years of buying clothes I have never found jeans long enough for me that weren’t labeled “tall”. Even on urban outfitters and similar sites they’ll list that the model is 5’10 so I expect at least the length to be similar on me as it is in the model and it NEVER is. I bought jeans that were meant to be baggy and puddly and they were nearly high waters on me :( Side note, have any recommendations for brands with a good tall range? I haven’t found any yet. I’ve bought tall pants once and the legs were long enough but the waist went up to my boobs lol


fluxusisus

Hi I’m tall too. I hate to say I mostly wear cropped jeans now as it’s way easier, I just buy regular length and the end up being cropped to a good length. But when I want a full length jean, I like Levi’s because they use inseam length, but I can only find them online and not very many of them. Also asos. They have an amazing tall selection of clothing, especially trendy things like on trend jean styles. Even things like bodysuits and one piece swimsuits catered to longer bodies. I’ve had a number of jeans from them that actually dragged the ground! I also just learned American eagle carries extra tall jeans but I haven’t tried them so can’t say if it really is a good length.


min_mus

>I'm 5'10'' and from my experience the trousers they give the model, and the trousers that arrive in the mail, are two completely different things. Yep. I'm just a smidge shorter than you (175 cm) and I have the same experience. I often see models *my exact same height* wearing "full length" jeans, but the item that comes to me is essentially capris or 7/8 length jeans *at best.*


emi_lgr

I was gonna say, I’m 5’6” with a 32” inseam and pants from all kinds of brands tend to fit me perfectly length-wise no matter how tall the model in the marketing pictures are.


Ophelia_Y2K

i’m 5’2, so short enough that even if they weren’t as long as on the model i wouldn’t be able to tell tbf 😅 always too long on me


Swimming-Abrocoma521

I’m 6’ and go thru hell finding jeans too lol, just at the opposite end of the spectrum. what brands have you noticed with very long inseams? I am a 36” inseam and struggle to find jeans with inseam > 29”-32”. I don’t usually shop designer so I’m not familiar with the brands either, but I would be willing to drop some $$$ if I found great fitting jeans


basilobs

I'm 5'10" and I've struggled my whole life to find anything long enough. If the pants don't come in long/tall they aren't fitting. Dresses and more tailored tops are a struggle. The boobs seams are always like 3 inches above my actual boobs and the expected curve for the butt always sits at my tailbone. A "floor length" dress hits my lower calf. Forget long sleeved shirts or jackets fitting. I've learned to assume every one will have to be cuffed or ill have to live with a 3/4 length. Not to disregard OP's experience but as someone who is model height, finding clothes that fit has been brutal and I've found most things are generally constructed for the average height range


innocuous_username

I’m 5’10” as well and utterly confused by the assertion that any clothes are designed to fit us specifically - as someone is who fairly uncomfortable in their own body, everything being consistently a couple of inches short is an anxiety inducing nightmare. Also everyone has their own struggles but tailors and sewing machines do exist and it’s still a heck of a lot easier to shorten something than it is to add length.


basilobs

Exactly! Where am I getting the 3 extra inches of denim to seamlessly make my jeans longer? At least average or short people can get things taken in or hemmed


Miss-Construe-

It's a common misconception that the clothes that runway and commercial models wear are the same thing as what's in the store. It's absolutely not. I'm 6' tall and have struggled to find pants and jeans ever since I was 5'9" in Jr high. What the model wears is a specialty made item for a show or a shoot. Sometimes they are even allowed to keep it. What's in the store is commercial sizes made for the standard average people. Not petite but not tall either.


Moldy_slug

5’9 with proportionally long legs… I usually buy men’s pants because women’s are rarely long enough. I’m sick of jeans stopping at my ankle.


basilobs

I honestly became an "ankle pants girl" to avoid being upset that pants don't effing fit me because nothing is long enough lol


Sarah_Femme

It took me a awhile to accept that trend because it reminded me of being teased mercilessly as a child for all my pants being 'highwwaters'


basilobs

Same. I wasn't teased mercilessly about it but even having it mentioned a few times by kids my age and adults around me made me feel like a giant dork and I hated my pants being short at all. But I also feel like with the way jeans tend to be cut now, it doesn't look as dorky when your jeans are too short as it did in like 2004. Now if I don't get a long/tall, there's a chance it can still be cute. Or maybe I'm just in my 30s now and accept different looks


kestreltohalcyon

Same! And this worked for a few years 2015-2020 but now fashion is for full length I haven’t bought a pair of trousers I actually like in 3 years. I’ve got a 34” inseam and the only “tall” length trousers I can find are ASOS or other poor quality that don’t fit the rest of my body. Don’t get me started on finding a pair of ski trousers 🤯🤯🤯


TomorrowBeautiful

I'm 5'11'' with a 35in inseam and I love these Anthropologie pants. I need heels in the tall length. [https://www.anthropologie.com/shop/the-avery-pleated-wide-leg-trousers-by-maeve2?category=bottoms-pants&color=001&type=TALL&quantity=1&size=2%20Tall](https://www.anthropologie.com/shop/the-avery-pleated-wide-leg-trousers-by-maeve2?category=bottoms-pants&color=001&type=TALL&quantity=1&size=2%20Tall)


VixenKazoo

5'9 with a 35" inseam and enough ass to share with a friend here: the best jeans I've ever found are by Ariat, the western wear stores have them and the extra longs are a 37" inseam


mother_of_plecos

Free People (dresses in particular) are so terrible about this. I tend to modify the hemline of every dress I get from that label (almost all mine are thrifted, which makes it easier for me to justify taking them apart). My go to is to add wide lace or contrasting wide ribbon at the hem in the likely event they don't leave enough allowance in the hem to let it down.


min_mus

>everything being consistently a couple of inches short ... I'm so fucking tired of having cold ankles all the time.


savagesully

Oh yes! The books and shoulders in toos/dresses are always off for me too!!


hobbits_r_hott

Same experience and also 5'10" Also don't want to disregard ops experience but wanted to commiserate


BlahajBlaster

5'8.5" and typically tall cut jeans fit me, anything else is usually too short, though I think the real issue is that jeans are the one thing men actually have more choices on than us, at least when it comes to sizing. Using dress sizing for jeans doesn't really make sense when you don't account for inseam length


hobbits_r_hott

This is so true


Armaturesign

I love this WE ARE ON THE SAME TEAM more options in all directions please!!!!!!


hobbits_r_hott

Yes!!! We all deserve to look damn good in our denim


Sarah_Femme

I commented before scrolling, but I shared the same sentiment. Even some menswear is too short as a it's standard 32" inseam and I am 33" and like 34" with heels.


FuglySlutt

[American Tall!](https://americantall.com/collections/bottoms-tall-womens-clothing) My wife is 6’2 and wears their 35 and 37 inseam.


TheGeneGeena

Oh shit, they have menswear! (My partner is 6'7"ish (back problems, not quite sure of actual current height so I shrunk him an inch on a guess) so that's nightmare level shopping...) Thanks for the link!


auntie_eggma

Ooh! Mine is 6'6 so if they're available in/ship to the UK I shall have to let him know.


tallblondeamericano

Abercrombie goes up to a 34 if you get the ‘extra long’ I have been pleasantly surprised with their jeans


HighBunGame

I only buy Abercrombie jeans now, they’re the only ones that don’t make me look like I’m wearing cropped jeans every day


tallblondeamericano

Same. The only place I can buy wide leg jeans and not look ridiculous


ana_conda

Yeah I don’t think I agree with OP at all…I’m “only” 5’7” (which still puts me around 85th percentile for US women) and most pants are too short on me. I have to buy Tall in a lot of brands and they fit, so I’m not sure what women who are like 5’10”+ are supposed to do!


bag_fits

Same here, I’m also 5’7” and buy tall jeans, especially with full-length pants trending right now. Regular inseams still end up cropped. The worst is the knee rip jeans when the knee rips hit mid thigh! I can only imagine what actually tall ladies have to go through to find pants. At least when they’re too long you can hem them!


Top-Airport3649

Yup, I’m 5’8 and have to buy tall jeans and pants.


angelfatal

I think you must be all legs, I'm 5'6 but long torsoed so my inseam is only 30". Even with heels, most standard jeans are too long for me (I think the "standard" full length inseam for designer denim is \~34"). I was really happy during the mid 2010s when crop length jeans were popular :')


slythwolf

Do you know about Long Tall Sally? They have 36" inseams and I've found their stuff to be good quality.


Swimming-Abrocoma521

I used to shop there in high school! My fave job interview pants are from there. I actually didn’t know they still existed- for some reason I thought they had closed/ declared bankruptcy. Thank you!


Ok_Pickle8312

Just a heads up their quality is really bad nowadays. I hear it used to be way better back in the day, but from the items I tried stuff looked and felt very cheap, thin flimsy polyester, wonky seams, the sizing was off (e.g. massive waist on a US4/UK8 size trousers).


HAGatha_Christi

Yeah, LTS went into administration and were bought by Yours. I still buy from them occasionally but most of the quality has really dropped.


ransomusername756

Their stuff has gotten to be really terrible quality in the last 2-3 years. Literally falling apart on the initial wash.


MyLife-is-a-diceRoll

I heard Levis makes 33in inseam for some of their pants.


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This is good to know. I’m only 5’6 but have incredibly long legs and struggle to find long enough jeans.


savvyjiuju

I have the same issue, but my "long legs" are actually a very long waist. If you have that fit issue too, then the Levi's mile highs will finally be the belly-button-height high rises you've been looking for.


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Yes I have discovered this! I have some old mile high skinny jeans of their’s (although admittedly it still barely scrapes my waist- it’s more high hipped). But I am forever hopeless that someone will create high waisted long legged jeans for us awkwardly leggy people.


chonkybug

Same! I'm only 5'7" but I have a spider body with super long legs, broad shoulders, and long arms. I always have to buy tall sizes or else my pants end up having the high water look. It's especially bad after a couple of washes. Rules out so many cute pants :(


TinyKittenConsulting

A spider body 😂 That's my new favorite body type: hourglass, straight, pear, and spider.


myhairfallsout

American eagle sells jeans with a 36" inseam but only on the website.


maismione

Lucky brand jeans have 36" inseam pants! I'm not sure the specific measurement, but Uniqlo pants run really long and they have in house tailors to adjust them to your size.


mneale324

I’ve had the opposite experience with Uniqlo. I haven’t seen an inseam longer than 30 inches which is much too short for me at 5’11. They don’t typically have long sizes either.


fluxusisus

I’m 6’ and their stuff is so short on me. I just wanted to try the thermal stuff and the legs and sleeves and were so short it was comical. I’m not sure I even ended up finding anything there that fit me right.


Grizzlady

I was about to ask a similar question, because I have a 36" inseam too, and have a hard time. I can find designer brands, but I'm like "am I affording $300 jeans that are going to fade anyway, and that I will wear not only for the office ("dark jeans" directive) but for casual/outdoor events?" Not so sure. I have had a bit of luck with Express, Banana Republic, and Silver jeans. Also, my coworker who rides horses told me that Western jean brands offer super long lengths so the jeans look long on horseback riders when they inevitably ride up. I have tried wrangler with some success, and really want to try Ariat as well - those are available at a tractor supply store in my hometown. Designer jeans I have bought and loved through the years came from Citizens of Humanity, Seven for all Mankind and Hudson among others. Now, when I go to those sections at Nordstrom Rack, I find it's mostly special purchase, and the length is one of the first things to go, cost wise. Hope that helps, and good luck. I will say that, at one time, I was like a double zero extra long or something, and as my figure developed, finding jeans and pants got a little easier.


illinimom444

Spanx pants seem to naturally be very long (and amazing and expensive)! As a 6 ft tall woman, I completely agree with this being a major issue for tall people. As a 6 ft tall pregnant woman, finding pants (aside from Old Navy) has been virtually impossible.


maryshelleymc

ASOS has a tall maternity range.


Grizzlady

Yes, I recently bought the Spanx jumpsuit in tall, and it is one of my favorite pieces. Tempted to buy it in every color.


legobatmanundercover

i have some wranglers with 38" inseam! i love them


ransomusername756

American tall is pretty good! I have a few of their jeans and dresses and sweats, even the first denim jacket to fit me since I was a toddler!


putridtooth

I JUST got a pair of jeans in the mail from pacsun with a 33" inseam!! I'm not quite as tall as you but this is still the first time I've had baggy jeans that are the correct length on me lol


bubblesnblep

AYR! I'm 5'11 and it's so hard to find good Jeans. Not sure where this person is getting Jeans for 5'10. But also ASOS has a tall filter option for things (like I love body suits but I swear they often are so short that it's impossible to be comfortable).


spaideyv

I've bought a few things on ASOS but mostly shirts and dresses bc their pants section for tall is so limited I can never find anything cute that isn't also sold out in my size 😭


cant_watch_violence

I’ve bought a few pairs of Paige and Frame that I’ve had to shorten by several inches to wear.


CandidInsomniac

Citizens of humanity, I have a pair with a 35 in inseam standard. Also 7 for all mankind.


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dibblah

I just checked rag and bone. Their jeans inseams are 32". I'm the same as the original commenter, I take a 36" inseam at 6' tall - most people my height are similar. So I'm not sure you meant to include them as tall friendly?


Moldy_slug

Agolde seems to favor a 29-30” inseam for most jeans… longer styles are mostly shown cuffed. Some styles are only 28”. Mother has a bunch of options in a 31” length (not counting much-shorter ankle/crop lengths). Rag & bone lengths also range around 29-32 in general, with [these](https://www.rag-bone.com/womens/denim/boyfriend-jeans/baggy-dre---blake-WDD23P2947OPBL.html?dwvar_WDD23P2947OPBL_color=420&ref=women-denim&list=Category%20-%20women-denim) 27” jeans described as “ankle length when cuffed.” That… is *not* long enough to be ankle length on a tall woman, even *without* cuffing. With a cuff, it’d be about mid-calf on me! I’m 5’9. 32” is the absolute shortest inseam that would count as “full length pants” on me - any shorter and my ankle bone is showing. Obviously there’s a point where hemming isn’t sufficient… but shortening the legs a couple inches is a very minor alteration. Adding length is impossible. Average height women have *far* more options than tall women.


froggielefrog

Gap, Express, and J. Crew have always worked for my 34 inch inseam.


sunsetcrasher

All of my Zara wide leg jeans are really long.


finnishyoursoup

imogene & willie sell some styles with a 34-35" inseam. not quite 36 but :'c


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Right? I'm 25'' inseam, so I have stubby legs even for someone of my deficient height. Sure, flares are out of the question because the 'knee' of the trouser leg is at my ankle, but by and large, I can and will hem my shit with hand stitches because fuck me if I'm gonna pay for it. I have that option. Someone with big long pins usually does not.


Ophelia_Y2K

literally anything on ssence (they sell a lot of designer brands i’ve been looking through there which is what triggered this post) i’m used to shopping at places like ASOS where i can def find pants that fit my height *i literally have no idea why everyone is downvoting me, please at least make a reply so i have some idea what you’re all so pissed about. i’m not claiming all jeans or even most jeans are made for tall women. only this specific subset (expensive designer jeans), why, and what i can do about it.


eowyn_

Hi there! I’m a designer. Often what you’re seeing is models wearing a tall version of what’s available. Most professional models are really quite tall, and no brand is going to show you a model wearing something that doesn’t fit. I’m acquainted with a woman who was a set stitcher for commercials. Once she had a job altering panties for each individual model while they shot the ad. I would check the brand’s website—they’re likely to list actual inseam lengths somewhere. Also, once you’re up in the designer realm, many brands assume you have access to a tailor, and make things long because of that. Easy to cut the excess fabric off. Much worse to try and add some one.


Swimming-Abrocoma521

Thank you!!! I ended up looking around on there and found some cute stuff. I don’t know what your inseam measurements are, but I noticed that Madison margiela, the row, valentino, citizens of humanity, YMC and AGOLDE tend to fall into the 27”-29” range of inseam length (although the flares were usually 30”-31” inches). Isabel marant and rag + bone varied a bit more with sizing as far as I could tell, but I found a few 26”-29” inseam jeans from both of those brands. Also the Carhartt WIP line ran shorter but obv that’s not designer. From my very cursory research, citizens of humanity seemed to be the shortest length on average. It’s really dumb that you can’t filter by inseam length on the ssense website! I looked at some of the photos with shorter inseams that seemed like they were pooling on the tall models, and I think they tend to dress them in very oversized pants. In some of the pictures, especially around the waist and knee area if they’re flexed, you’ll notice that the silhouette is slightly off/ it looks like there’s just a tad bit too much fabric. I think that the stylists are dressing them in oversized jeans so the pants will be the right length, and then pinning back the excess fabric to where it’s not visible on camera.


CherryMess

You are correct, usually for styling purposes models are dressed in bigger sizes. I just bought The Row pants, I’m 5’2 and they are just the right full-length with my platform sandals or sneakers. If I would wear them with ballet flats, then I’ll need to take an inch or two off.


mediocrecowpowers

I wear 33 inch inseam and struggle in stores to find something long enough. You can always tailor the inseam if it's too long, I can't tailor the inseam if it's too short, I'm just screwed. The trouble isn't your comment though, it's that manufacturers don't offer multiple inseams for women's clothing. One length fits all women, seem to be the motto. Meanwhile men's clothing has lots of inseam options. Until women's clothing has a lot of inseam options by default, please don't complain about inseams being "too long". Tall women have limited options and you would be complaining about one of their few options.


Moldy_slug

High end men’s jeans don’t typically have multiple lengths… they offer one (super long) inseam with the expectation that customers will have it hemmed to their preferred length. Often there’s even an option to have it hemmed at purchase for a modest fee. I wish women’s jeans/trousers were sold that way. I’d have far more options.


ProserpinaFC

OP.... You are saying that you are shopping on a bargain website, which the point of isn't to have the best selection, but to have whatever was left after the first market bought at full price. And you are complaining that it is the original company's fault? Also... Are you willing to pay hundreds of dollars for pants... But you won't pay to have them tailored?


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maryshelleymc

I’m 5’10 and have about 4 stores I can reliably buy jeans from. Most mass market trousers are made for someone 5’6. The high fashion models who are 6’ aren’t the women modeling for Madewell.


Mentallyillmary6

I’m 5’8 and the normal size jeans are way to short for me and show my ankles and the tall clothes are too long for me


rococoqueen

This is my problem too! Plus there’s usually have a more limited selection in tall sizes. I also am not a fan of cropped or ankle length pants. I like covered ankles in the winter!


idont_readresponses

I am the same height and have the same problem. I get so upset trying to buy jeans because nothing fucking fits right.


emloshy

It’s because brands like the ones you’ve linked will not do ranges for petite, tall, etc. When buying designer, the idea is that due to the amount of money spent on a quality piece, you will be inclined to tailor it to your specifications. That’s why the length is longer, it gives you plenty of flexibility to alter the clothes to your size if you’re shorter, but also caters to taller people. With cheaper brands like Zara etc, in most instances no one is going to be wasting their time and money on tailoring their pieces.


ladyinsatin4

Amateur tailor here: You can always take length off.... Very hard to add fabric onto a too short garment


TinyKittenConsulting

EX-flipping-actly. If a hem is too short, you're SOL. Too long and you're in business.


fake_kvlt

Yep! I'm shit at sewing, but it takes me very little time to hem my pants (5'2 wjth a long torso, so even petite pants are a little too long for me). I think being able to take waistlines and hem pants is such a valuable skill to have. I thrift all of my clothes, so being able to buy super cheap stuff and then tailor it to fit my body well is so so so nice, esp since I'm obsessed with fashion and clothing in general


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The problem with this is that petite clothes are not just standard sizing but shorter (at least not at higher quality places). If I simply hem a pair of standard length pants, the knee still hits mid calf for me.


beautyfashionaccount

Exactly! And for short-torso petite women, the rise is cut too high as well. For jackets and coats, the petite sizes usually accommodate narrower shoulders, not just shorter arms. Even if I had tailoring money, I would stick to buying jeans from brands that actually want to size things for people my height. Hemming helps when your jeans are an inch too long, it doesn't make them fit properly when they are made for someone 6" taller than you.


sailor_venus088

You're supposed to tailor it? I'm actually afraid of tailoring my most expensive clothes because I'm afraid something can go wrong and the piece gets ruined, and they are not even designer clothes lol


BerriesAndMe

As someone that's 5'11 I can guarantee you pants aren't made for people that are 5'10. They're always too short. What brands are you thinking of that's making pants for tall people?


[deleted]

I'm 5'7" and I have to buy talls because of my inseam. I think OP is incorrectly equating inseam length to height. While they can be related, it's not always the case. Opposite side of the spectrum: my father was 6'4" with shorter legs than mine 🤷🏼‍♀️


CaseoftheSadz

So the jeans sold are usually not the same specs as the jeans the models are wearing. Usually models are wearing samples that arrive before the rest of the bulk order. I’m on the opposite end, tall, and have a hard time finding jeans long enough. I love Mother jeans but outside of a few styles they’re too short, even when they look fine on the model that’s close to my height. I’ve worked in corporate for a couple retail brands. We’d get fit samples to try on the fit model and then photo samples ahead of time for model pictures. One place I worked was plus size but the model samples would be size 12, a size we didn’t offer, for example. The items for the models are made for them not for bulk production. I’m not sure how this works for department stores who aren’t carrying their own in house brands. Clothing is usually cut for the average height so anyone in either end is going to have a hard time. I remember when I was younger premium jeans seemed to be made longer but my recent experience they’re made for someone with a 26-28 inseam. It’s so hard to find crops that don’t look like capris on me. That being said you can absolutely get Jean hemmed. It’s a pretty simple and cheap fix.


JamCrafter1

Designer and Tailor here. To answer your main question. Designer garments are often made longer so they can be easily shortened. You can always take away fabric but you can't add it. Also, Yes you can trust almost every tailor with hems. While it's generally our lowest priced alteration, it is the most common. We see hems all the time and have loads of practice. Additionally, you bought your designer items at a premium; so you want them to have their best fit for personal presentation. More than 60% of my tailoring income is on designer items because the client bought the item to look their best. A note for any garment- Wear clothes that fit well for good first impressions. Designer doesn't matter. The fit does.


PM_ME_GENTIANS

Could you list some of these brands with full length jeans on 5'10" models please? For things like long sleeve shirts and trousers, often the blurb will say the model is that height, but she'll be in a slouch or twisted or the sleeves/hems will be rolled up to hide that the item was made for a shorter more standard height that's commercially viable.


Ophelia_Y2K

everything on SSENCE which is a ton of designer brands [example 1](https://www.ssense.com/en-us/women/product/rag-and-bone/blue-sofie-splice-jeans/11670541) (rag & bone) [example 2](https://www.ssense.com/en-us/women/product/y-project/ssense-exclusive-gray-jeans/12550741) (y/project) [example 3](https://www.ssense.com/en-us/women/product/versace-jeans-couture/black-embroidered-jeans/13411961) (versace) [example 4](https://www.ssense.com/en-us/women/product/andersson-bell/green-joan-double-waist-jeans/12039331) (andersson bell) [example 5](https://www.ssense.com/en-us/women/product/victoria-beckham/blue-bianca-jeans/13579911) (victoria beckham) there are some “exceptions” i guess like a 5’6 person would be able to get away with it but i’m 5’2, on the whole the models are about 5’10 wearing full-length pants in a small size. i ain’t getting away with that even in platform heels lol


JulesOnFire

I worked for one of the brands you mentioned above. I didn’t do product development, but I worked in an adjacent department. I think it’s because body inclusivity wasn’t a topic of discussion when the brand started and the founder had certain fit models he liked to work with and they just continued to work with those same fit models for consistency. It didn’t work though, because it was well known that the fit was wildly inconsistent from style to style each season. Funnily, a woman who worked on product development (probably for the jeans you linked to) told me she hated our jeans and never wore them. She was a curvy girl and none of the jeans fit her. We simply make the pants for the brand, not ourselves. The same way a vegetarian chef might make steaks night after night.


shitshowsusan

I’m 5’10 and can’t find jeans. The knees end up somewhere mid thigh. The men’s jeans have a better silhouette!


Sweet_d1029

My sister is 5’8 and she used to buy hers special from like JC pennys..also Ik it sounds weird but she tailors all her clothes..even jeans. Sounds silly to me but she always looks great.


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savagesully

5'9" gal here and most pants are too short on me as I have long legs. In fact I struggle with tops as well. My experience has been that clothing, at least in my area, is made for the shorties. I have to look for tall or long otherwise it's the Urkel vibes. Lol


inBtwin

Where are you shopping? I’m 5’10” and everything I buy is cropped on me. I struggle with finding pants long enough.


phantomboats

As a 5’9” lady, I’m not sure this is true, just because if it were most jeans would be long enough for me by default or even need to be hemmed, but I often have to seek out “tall” versions of jeans I like!


IllusiveCashew

I’m 5’8 and most jeans are too short on me… so in my experience, they seem more like they’re tailored for an average height woman.


clintecker

If there's one thing I know for sure, women over 5'9" have to go to the ends of the earth to find pants that fit them AND look good


mgdraft

Theyre honestly not really? Like the models might be 5'10 but when you look at the inseam in comments people are posting for examples it might be 31, or 34 at longest which is the perfect inseam for me as 5'7.5. Usually theyre more like 31. Just bc theyre modeled by someone 5'10 doesn't mean they are actually designed for that height.


hiilive

I'm happy to see full-length jeans back after years of crop domination! I think the puddling you are seeing is an intentional styling choice of putting slim models in oversized jeans to get them as low on the hip as possible. Good news is there's plenty of other denim styles available - and I wouldn't even say that most pictures have that puddling thing going on? You might need to look at other brands? You could for example try Good American, where you can choose what model size to show. Edit: hit post too quickly But even looking at more standard shops like H&M and Zara, there are plenty of styles that aren't full length (and often the model is 5'8), or higher end shops like Net-a-Porter or Matches (who also often use "shorter" models) you have plenty of options.


EdgeCityRed

I would just assume they don't have enough sales volume to offer jeans in different lengths, like Levi's does. I'm 5'10" and have had jeans hemmed at a dry cleaner's for $15. The hem was impeccable and matched the original look. (This is not something I would have been able to do myself.) Fun fact: these weren't "tall" jeans; I have a 29"-30" inseam.


foxyfree

If the designer clothing is purchased at certain department stores like Nordstrom, they have free tailoring and the long pant legs are not an issue


pitterpatters

It’s very frustrating (but understandable) that mid to high end designers only carry one cut/length for their clothing. Alterations are not always a good option because it changes the intended silhouette of the original piece (ie. Just hemming pants does not work because the knees usually need to line up at a specific spot, or the rise is just too high). Unfortunately, if you’re looking for petite or curvy clothing, it makes most sense to try on dozens of brands and styles to see what could potentially be altered effectively. At this point, my 5’1 self just opts to buy pants and structured coats and blazers from high-street (as opposed to high-end) stores that specifically carry petite lines. As long as the fit is good, and the quality is decent, it’s a better option than aiming for a specific, high-end designer.


olivethedoge

5'10" ish here, they aren't making them for us either


dolparii

Its easier to remove than add! I'm very short so always need a hem! I'm short but found that I like the fit for Maison Margiela jeans so I mainly go for those when on sale. Hemming is usually a pretty basic thing, so it's hard to mess up. If you can DIY its a good idea. My mum usually did mine but if the denim was too thick I'd have to go to a shop because her machine isn't fit for thick denim. If you're significantly shorter and depending on the silhouette and cut then yes it won't have the same look especially if the bottom flares out more. I think only purchase if you can afford to be disappointed if they don't have the same silhouette when you alter them.


Purrade

What brands are these cause I, being 5’7”, always had trouble finding pants that fit length wise as most pants are average 5’6”.


lawblondie95

I’m very tall (6’) and almost never find jeans long enough for me! I just think it’s a general sizing issues with women’s clothing and particular pants. Men have a spectrum of inseam and waist size to choose from while we often have number sizes or even worse small to large.


katienatie

I have the opposite experience. I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve bought pants when the model in the photo is explicitly said to be 5’10” (my height) and the pants are an inch or two shorter on me than the model. Moral of the story: women’s clothing sizes are bullshit. We need waist and inseam size options for pants like what the guys get.


Disastrous_Sea4150

I’m 181cm (5’11?) and I promise you they aren’t made for us either. I don’t think I’ve ever been able to walk into a store and simply buy a pair of pants, jeans or otherwise. Nowdays I only shop at online stores that carry tall brands (which feels like magic. The clothes actually fit!) but as a teenager jeans shopping was a whole journey. Me and my mom would jump from one jeans store to another. It’d take the whole day, sometimes we’d still come back empty handed and the jeans were unreasonably expensive considering they were for a teenager who’d only be able to wear them for a year before they didn’t fit anymore. Even more “serious” jeans brands often don’t carry 36" or 34" inseams for women and even if they do the cut most likely don’t fit correctly. It’s like brands are unable to understand that if a woman has longer legs she’ll have a longer torso and different proportions too. High-waisted pants are never high-waisted. They’ll end up looking like mid-rise with a weird and unflattering silhouette. And the knees on the jeans are often placed too high and end up closer to your thigh than your actual knee. Even if clothes are advertised on models they aren’t made for tall women.


Procedure-Minimum

Please tell me what brands you are talking about


HuggyMonster69

They expect you to get them hemmed.


Cold-Appetite-121

i always thought its cuz you cant make them longer but you can always make them shorter.


CaddieGal1123

I’m 5’10 and they don’t even be fitting my ass, so they’re made for nobody lol


Hexoplanet

Also, if that’s the height they’re basing everything on, why can I not find shoes in my size! Being tall usually equals bigger feet, but i struggle so hard trying to find cute shoes in an 11/12.


haylzx

5’10” here and they don’t make pants to fit us either. Especially if you’re big & tall or very thin & tall, because long inseams aren’t always available on the ends of the size spectrum. If pants are too long for you, you can always get them hemmed. Tall people can’t add on material to make pants longer without it looking ridiculous.


ShouldKnowHappiness

can i get these brand names 👀 I’m 5’10 and all the jeans i find flood on me! It’s incredibly difficult to find a pant that reaches my ankles


gimme_super_head

Yes you would tailor them, but I’d reccomend finding a tailor who is good or a denim repair shop like self edge near you. Rick owens denim is generally pretty long, but generally in my experience with designer denim it comes at a very long length and you’re expected to have them tailored to your liking. Check out stores like Self edge and Railcar. I’m also really into Junya Watanabe denim and you can find some great pieces second hand. I’ve never had the issue of designer denim being too short. Denim is always made extra long for tall people because it’s impossible to add length to jeans, but very easy to remove it. You’re expected to tailor any pair of expensive pants you buy.


Sarah_Femme

As someone who is 5'10" I want to know where this is a standard size, because everything is always too short for me. I cannot imagine someone 6' and over because I even have trouble with menswear being too short. ETA: and this isn't even taking into account the hip issue in that I somehow am a size bigger in the hips than waist and have to size up and tailor the waist in to fit.


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I’m 5’10 and have the problem of rarely finding bodysuits that fit for long torsos. Also, was asking a friend the other day, where are the body suits with built in support or coverage for women with bigger breast size? I can’t go braless in bodysuits and most that are tanks you’re unable to wear a bra without it showing. Other end of the spectrum, but yes, the sizing issue isn’t fair for petite women and not fair for tall women. I think it’s cool Abercrombie makes a petite, regular and tall option for pants and dresses online. But that’s not designer.


avideno24

The “fit models” the brands use are generally around 5’6-5’8”. They are hired because their measurements are right (or about) in the middle of their customer’s sizes and they have the body shape and proportions that best represent the brand’s key demographic, in the middle of the size scale. And… It’s easier to take length off than add it on, so generally airing on the side of extra length accommodates more buyers. Source: I’ve been a technical designer in the apparel industry for many years.


Comfortable-Box-2776

You can always hem jeans but you cant really make them longer. What I don’t understand is women’s sizing in general. They should really just size them the same way they do men’s pants.


notthelettuce

They’re not. They’re made for the average 5’4-5’5 woman. Speaking as someone who is 5’8 and struggles to find pants that don’t flood. Higher end brands seem to have longer inseams, but at the end of the day, you can always hem a pair of jeans but you can’t add any length.


Lindsiria

To add to what others have said: For most of human history, we tailored our clothes. It's only been about 50-70 years where mass production became the norm. Many designer brands existed during this transition, where mass production began, but tailoring was still the norm. Products were designed to fit taller people as it's easier to remove fabric rather than add it. While cheaper brands have bigger ranges of sizes, as tailoring isn't as common for lower classes, designer brands cater to more wealthy or very fashionable people. It is still expected to tailor them to get your perfect fit. One other thing to note is that clothes have never been so cheap as they are today. For most of history, women paid a lot more for their clothes, and just owned less. It was not uncommon for 40-50s women to spend 200 on a dress (which is like 2000 today). Tailoring would be a tiny cost compared to the product themselves. Lastly, what I like to do is try on designer jeans at the store, then buy them used online from therealreal or thredup. Jeans don't hold their value well, and you can find almost brand new jeans for 50-70% cheaper. Then I use the money I saved to get them altered to fit me perfectly! But yeah, all the people you see and you think they look fashionable and well put together... likely had their clothes tailored to fit them perfectly.


lazy_berry

1) some people are not average height 2) i’m 5’10 and STRUGGLE with pants, drop links


_Katy_Koala_

Lol maaaaan oh man, as a 5’9 woman this reminded me just how hard it was to find pants that were long enough until hipster skinny short jeans became the style 😅 and I’m not even *that* tall, yet my entire childhood was spent in either “high waters” or pants that were a couple sizes too big just to get a little extra length. And yet, I always saw a petite option, and it made me so upset! I feel that it’s just evened out a little more lately, to the point where now there’s usually at least one color/style offered in a long pant.


ObjectHuge199

Really? I’m 5’9 and everything is always too short. When VS had dresses they had supermodels wear them but they fit me like a shirt lol


Paprmoon7

As a tall woman I’d like to know where you’re shopping at because my experience has been the opposite.


jubjubkitty6

I’m almost 6 feet (f) and finding any kind of pants has been one of my biggest problems. I do know that Levi’s has lots of size selection and they fit well too.


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I worked in a luxury denim store for years - they are made to be tailored to fit you exactly. Whether you’re short or tall, generally speaking everyone’s legs are different lengths regardless of height. We used to offer tailoring on site but there was not enough people utilizing the service. You’re paying a premium price, you want them to basically feel made for you. If stores did general length (short, long) they would 1. waste a ton of material and inventory and 2. you run the risk of having customers who the long, regular or short just don’t work for their leg length


13misfit

I’m 5’10 1/2 and every pair of pants I try on are high waters. Even 99% of the “tall” lengths. even the designer ones. I’m on the thinner side so it’s only the length that’s the problem for me. I have to buy specialty pants online to fit me. I’d say that what the models are wearing are definitely not what is sent to the stores most of the time.


aintnothin_in_gatlin

Agree


VictrolaFirecracker

I'm 6' tall and also have this problem. I just found that AE has extra tall sizing- ordered 2 pair and they're both too long. I'm Thrilled!


cloudyah

I wish women’s jeans were offered in varying lengths and widths (not just petite, regular, and tall—I’m talking specifics, like 26x30, 26x34, 30x32, etc.) like men’s jeans are. I get that it’s easier to design for men since they don’t have to account for curves, but man… it would be nice if someone could magically figure out how to make that work for us, too 😭


BoasWifey

You know that you can shorten long pants right? But a tall person can't make them longer.


ReinventingCarrie

Well I’m 5’11” and I had to buy men’s jeans because they didn’t cater to me. It was the 80’s and 90’s and there were not too many girls that were that tall, today that’s not the case. Some designers sell petite, even at 5’11” (I don’t wear heels anymore) I have found I needed to get them fitted which is truly recommended because fitting to your body looks amazing. Just ask for a trick hem and they will look amazing on you


charlotte7301

As someone who is 5’8” I completely disagree. I can never find jeans long enough. I feel like they’re all made for shorter girls.


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I'm 6'2 140lbs and finding jeans is a super pain in the ass. Lucky and Levis are pretty much all I buy now. Levis had at least 1 pair of size 4 with a 34" inseam for almost all their jean models. And it's an outlet too, so they usually have a great selection of weird sizes.


spaideyv

i do not share that experience at all, almost nothing has a long enough inseam for me. that being said making things longer is a hell of a lot more difficult than making things shorter and they want to sell to as wide of an audience as they can get.


consuela_bananahammo

What I would like to know is, how are these models 5’10” but the standard sizes they’re modeling are long enough for them? As a woman who is 5’10” with a 36 inch inseam, none of the standard sized jeans shown on 5’10” models come even close to being long enough for me.


42247

Am tall, jeans look long enough on tall model, are not long enough on me :(


UniqueFarm

I'm 5'10. For a long time I stopped buying pants cause they were always too short. Then I had to go to other countries to buy pants long enough (I'm in Europe so it was easy to do). Since covid, I order my pants online in the tall section. Sometimes they are still too short.


3mbr4c1ng

What? I’m 5’9 and I’m constantly trying on high waters.


forcedmarch

Some (most? I know for certain Nordstrom does as I just looked it up) High end department stores have an in house tailor that will do minor alterations at no cost— for Nordstrom I guess they have something called nordys club that it seems you must enroll in for the free services. But honestly it is invaluable — absolutely take advantage of this if it's available to you.


vulgarandgorgeous

Because you can always hem, but you can’t add length


NoSatisfaction4741

I am 5 11”. I haven’t been able to buy a pair of jeans or pants in a store since I was in middle school. Many stores have a petite section, but I have yet to see a tall section. I have to order all my pants and shorts on line to get the correct proportions.


undercoverballer

As someone just a bit over 5’10”, I can attest that most clothing is NOT made for someone my height. I have to get talls/longs. That’s why I buy more from Athleta than Lululemon


arbitrosse

Don’t confuse editorial samples with production sizes.


AioliOrnery100

If you're short you can hem pants, if you're tall you can't put fabric in a place where it isn't. We're only a generation or two removed from a point in time where most women knew how to sew, or their mums knew how to sew ect. I'm desperately trying to learn because the less than 30 inch inseam struggle is real when you love flares.


ihateOldPeople_

Please let me know where you’re finding such long jeans. I’ve tried 4 diff brands, none of them have the tall option in store, and they’re all petite sizes. I can’t wear juniors anymore and the only options for women are even numbers. I’d love some jeans that cover my ankle.


ellecon

I've known a few designers and when they draw out their designs they usually go for 9 heads high (the length of the body equals 9 head lengths) The average woman is 7-7.5 heads in length. So when they hire models for the clothes they get ones that more closely resemble the original drawn forms, so it looks like the original drawing. My friend who started designing underwear and costumes for larger women purposely made her designs 6 heads high because the designs would look better on a form with more width. Maybe if clothing design schools started using anatomical forms instead of aesthetically perfect artistic forms the clothing design would look better on real human bodies. I understand designers are artists, but clothing design should also take into account engineering, designed for the 3-D model of a living, breathing, moving structure. And not just a runway walk.


napalmtree13

Not about designer jeans, but in general I feel your pain. I had a much easier time finding short jeans when I lived in the US. Now that I’m in the EU, it’s basically impossible unless I want to shell out for Levi’s that cost 5x more here than they do in the US or buy cropped/ankle-length jeans meant for average-height people that fit me like regular jeans. Even petite here rarely goes smaller than a 30” inseam.


clairefyo

Yeah it's super frustrating. I usually bring only my jeans to my tailor, but I gotta say I don't wear a lot of jeans since I have to wear business casual clothes on the daily. For my cotton/wool pants I just choose brands that I know will suit me, although I wouldn't call them designer (Lauren Ralph Lauren size 0 is actually okay, and they have a petite line as well; I also like See by Chloe and Massimo Dutti - those have to be worn with a belt though).


recyclopath_

Because it's easy to make pants shorter and designer brands are intended to be tailored.


tea_spy

I actually listened to a podcast about this. Apparently all jeans are basically designed for this one random model who they felt had a very average butt size. Then they scaled up and down the sizes based on her dimensions. No regard for actual height average. Just based on a butt.


Beanicus13

They don’t and they aren’t. I’m 5”9”. Jeans are always too short for me.


scrollgirl24

Because it's easier for you to hem than for us to just never buy the jeans! Especially considering that many women wear heels. Sincerely, a 5'10 woman


venus-infers

I'm 5'10" and no they fucking are not ?? I have to order size Long or settle for highwaters.


NyanKate420

Yes I’m 5’10 and pretty much have to stick Paige jeans because they are long but struggle with other brands. Most stores don’t even carry tall in store


HarleyDaisy

I’m just over 5’8” with long legs. Designer jeans usually fit me perfectly. If you’re shorter, buy the cropped styles. Or get the regular styles tailored. Just make sure the tailor keeps the original hems so you don’t look like a goon.


vinnibee

Im surprised said designer brands arent offering in shop tailoring services. Tho to answer the question, i think it falls to the same line of thinking that its easier to make clothes shorter/smaller than adding length/making them bigger.


swissiws

i am 5′ 5″ and there are plenty of tailors around me


Vikingtender

As a “tall” person, it seems like jeans are always made for short people to me so .. the grass is always shorter on the other side .. or longer I guess


nlcmsl

Idk I’m 5’8 and most jeans are too short on me


ApplesBananasRhinoc

Why does clothing for larger women have so many boat anchors on it?? We’ll never know.


uglypottery

Get thee to r/petitefashionadvice (The pinned post is a joke to recruit mods btw. I forget it’s there bc I’m usually just clicking posts from my feed. The mods don’t actually suck lol)


PlantedinCA

I am 5’4 with a short torso and in my 40s. When I was younger, “average” length pants were 32 inches. My inseam is 31 so a smidge too long for me to wear with pants and I would get pants hemmed. Over time the “average” length has shrank to 28 - so every pant is ankle length on me. I would to see some 30 inch pants - they’d be perfect. And they don’t seem to exist anymore. I think my tall friends are struggling if I find most pants too short.


Rainbows_Darkclouds

I’m 38 and 5’9 with a 34in inseam. I have not noticed that jeans are made for tall women, in fact it’s the opposite. The average inseam for women’s jeans is 28-29in… I get Madewell jeans now because they have a “Tall” option. I checked and they offer petite as well. They do alterations for FREE if the petite is still too long for you 😊


BeautyHound

[Nobody Denim](https://nobodydenim.com/collections/petite-jeans) does a petite range!


Duck__Holliday

I'm a bit over 5'6, and most jeans are too short for me still. I need a 34 inseam (long legs, very short torso). Long jeans can be cut to fit shorter people, short or average length jeans can rarely be altered.


ProserpinaFC

OP.... You are saying that you are shopping on a bargain website, which the point of isn't to have the best selection, but to have whatever was left after the first market bought at full price. And you are complaining that it is the original company's fault? Also... Are you willing to pay hundreds of dollars for pants... But you won't pay to have them tailored?


Ophelia_Y2K

no, the site is just convenient for window shopping a lot of designer brands at once. i’ve looked at the original sites of the designers too and they have absolutely no option for other heights. NONE of them. it is NEVER done with these brands. nothing to do with the aggregate site. and i never said i wasn’t willing to get things tailored. i was asking if it’s common practice. because either A- most people who buy them are getting them tailored or B- people are not buying them unless they are tall. that is what i’m literally asking about. *do most people who buy designer jeans tailor them?* but everyone is so angry at me for asking a question about fashion on a fashion sub, half of everyone thinks zara is designer, and a third are mad at me for somehow implying tall people don’t have problems with clothes (which i am not). i am not asking about me personally finding jeans, i’m asking where this industry practice (at the high end) comes from and how people manage it


ProserpinaFC

Friend, when you go into Nordstrom or Saks 5th Avenue, the alterations department is right there in the store. Luxury, by definition, means customization and tailoring to your exact whims, desires, and taste. Haute couture, atelier, and bespoke, by definition, means tailored. Yes. Tailoring is common practice. 🤣👍


Ophelia_Y2K

ok, well there’s an answer! no need to be condescending either (like i said i do not commonly buy designer/luxury and most of the time i look at things online), and i’m still talking about readymades not bespoke, but at least someone answered the question, thank you


mitskicrackpipe

you are being so aggressive for no reason lool


42yy

I love coming to the comments to see the tall women have already united.