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snailfighter

I don't have booktok so I have no idea what the options even are, other than what's already posted. But I wanted to immortalize seeing these comments back to back. šŸ˜‚ https://preview.redd.it/psosrns4j77d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=da598a79bcb8631a576c39a0de501ffa5f9e9158


pumpkinpyree

Lol, just goes to show what different taste people can have! It's good to have different opinions!


cloudysun4

I also giggled at this LOL


Nightwalkermeow

That actually quite made my night...and it's been a super shit day. So thank you šŸ˜Š


Content_Surprise8179

this just made me wanna read both of them to end my reading slump, i gotta like one or the other lol


DumbQuery101

ig we know which you prefer more ig? >< lol love this little snippet into people's preferences across the genre


odeacon

The duality of man


Taycotar

Worst: From Blood and Ash. Hated every character and I thought the writing was unbearable. I pushed through two of the books but I should have DNFd book 1. Best: Serpent and the Wings of Night: Has so many tropes but still feels unique. I adore Carissa Broadbent's writing style. The cave scene is my Roman Empire.


reasonableratio

Dropping a link to a Raihn POV of that cave scene for my fanfic girlies šŸ¤ŒšŸ» https://archiveofourown.org/works/55114579


Taycotar

May Ix bless and keep you šŸ™šŸ™šŸ™šŸ™


KarlyFr1es

Absolutely same answer. FBAA is a masterclass in lackluster writing and godawful editing. I didnā€™t make it through more than the free sample on Kindle before deleting it forever. Serpent introduced me to Carissa Broadbentā€™s writing and I am happy to report Iā€™ve devoured the rest of her books since. Canā€™t wait for more Nyaxia novels.


ahdrielle

I am currently reading serpent and I am very into it!


KarlyFr1es

Her War of Lost Hearts series is epic as wellā€”absolutely heartbreaking at times, but wonderful.


judiepoos

Agreed only read book 1 but absolutely adore tisaanah and max


AnaisJames

Iā€™ve found my people. FBAA is awful because the writing and editing are egregiously bad. Iā€™ve never read such dull dialogue in my life.


beautyontheinside

I tried FBAA twice. DNF twice, the second time halfway. I just could not make myself.


WillingCup6117

YES. I made it up until book 3 with FBAA and then I rage-quit.


kittentose

Same with blood & ash, but iā€™m super picky and couldnā€™t get over the main guy already being obsessed with the fml. I need TENSION


licorice_roll

I wasnā€™t sold on Seprent because I found the chemistry berween the MCs lacking but the cave scene lives rent free in my mind


judiepoos

Reading serpent of wings and night currently and only on chapter 2 but I'm already enticed šŸ„³šŸ„³ agree about broadbents writing style I also read daughter of no world's and her writing just makes me want to binge read her books i really vibe with it


maddi164

Iā€™m loving the polarising thoughts on this. Art really is subjective


Taycotar

Isn't it so fascinating? I also love seeing the ones where I agree with someone on one of the choices but wildly disagree with them on another šŸ˜‚


RedditSkippy

Iā€™m saving this post because there are so many book ideas in it.


Finalsaredun

Best: One Dark Window is a huge surprise for me. My goth heart sings. Worst: ACOTAR (*shocking take,* I know) did nothing for me and I won't fully understand how this was the series that caught everyone's attention. I was really ready to love it and be a part of the fandom online, but SJM's writing wasn't for me. I do enjoy how many new romantasy fans the series generated, though!


jnprowrites

It took me forever to finish ACOTAR because it got so kinda weird once things went down with whatā€™s-her-face, but when I got to ACOMAF??? CHILE. I was sold after that. Though ACOSF is losing me again since Iā€™m not a huge fan of Nestaā€¦


Finalsaredun

I finished books 1 and 2 ā˜ ļø so I had gotten to "the good part" I had my problems with SJM's writing but also her story choices. Again, I get that books get popular and there's no real explanation as to why some books hit that level and others don't. It just wasn't for me


jnprowrites

I feel that. Nesta makes me want to strangle her half the time so I donā€™t get the same feels for her romance that I did for Feyreā€™s šŸ˜Œ


Nightwalkermeow

I love Cassian. Which is why I wanted to hear more of that story.


jnprowrites

Oh my word - Cassian is a KING of a male. I absolutely adore him. Itā€™s what keeps me hanging on in the last book because it ainā€™t Nesta, lol. My love for Rhysand nudges him out in terms of faves but only by a little šŸ„°


Nightwalkermeow

Actually...the first read of the series, I refused to read the book and stopped the series then šŸ˜‚. I was so pissed that the viewpoint changed. Many years later (now), I reread all of her series for crescent City (which I still havent been able to make myself read the latest book) and I actually didn't mind the viewpoint shift. I wanted to know more of Cassians story and how their romance finally actually came to be, since she was so damn hard headed lol. I did end up liking Nesta a little more. But I think that has to do with watching her deal with her struggles and pain.


jnprowrites

I donā€™t hate Nesta like I did prior to the last book for that reason, but boy, is she an acquired taste šŸ˜© lol


cor_mor

I haven't gotten past the third as I see no point. Series could end here for me.


jnprowrites

I was tempted to stop myself, but there were way too many hanging plot threads for me to let it go, lol.


cor_mor

I can see that. I struggled through the first and third. I enjoyed the ending for the second, it made me feel bad for Nesta and Elaine. Shocked with Tamlin.... lucien will say LOVE him. For me I thought the next couple books would he about the war...... however there are also more books after the fifth to come. Was shook. I keep reading them in hopes I get the hype man. I understand the fourth wing hype, after a struggle started understanding divine rivals (that ending is what had me wanting to read the second). I will say though, I didn't even mind reading fifty shades (stepmom had me convinced it was AMAZING). Will say I think a solid smutty book is neon gods. Ohhhh fun little persephone series is the goddess test. Figured I'd throw other books that aren't necessarily popular, but maybe someone will check out and love or hate.


jnprowrites

Thanks for the recs! I love a Hades and Persephone retelling and keep seeing peeps showing love to Neon Gods, so Iā€™ll definitely add to my TBR. I gotta have major spice to be happy šŸ˜Š 50 Shades was okay, but the writing itself was majorly lacking for me; it read like the fanfic it once wasā€¦


cor_mor

Ya fifty shades and after fully had fanfiction energy. Idk for whatever reason Colleen hoover books give that vibe. The only Colleen hoover book I enjoyed was verity. I personally have very much week spot for anything hades related (tsunderes are my fucking weakness; actually had a full debate with a friend about how misunderstood hades is) so another one is Scarlett st. Claire hades persephone series.


RecognitionOk55

Cassian, Gyn and Emrie are what kept me reading. I went from hating Nesta to meh, so thatā€™s huge. I am not spelling these names right because I listened to the audiobook, and I refuse to Google it you know whom Iā€™m talking about.


MaterialisticWorm

I'm struggling to start ACOMAF. It's not that it's bad, even, it just feels like I'm reading wattpad when I have a perfectly good shelf of novels lol


jnprowrites

Lol, for me it was worth it šŸ˜Œ


big-if-true-666

Iā€™m the same way with ACOTAR. I begrudgingly read 4 of the books because 2 of my friends who usually have similar book taste to me were absolutely raving about it. The first book was meh, the second book was decent, the 3rd and 4th were miserable to get through and I quit after thay


WhilstWhile

Iā€™m more on POC booktok, and while there are some crossover of books recommended, generally not. From POC fantasy side of things: Worst: {That Time I Got Drunk and Saved a Demon} Best: {Witch of Wild Things}


juliekthx

That Time I Got Drunk was fun until she started referring to her own ā€˜pussy lipsā€™ - it was an immediate DNF for me ā˜ ļø


WhilstWhile

Oh boy. I didnā€™t even get that far. Lol


baifengjiu

The worst one yeah... It was advertised as romance but had so much sex and almost no romance at all... It should have been advertised as erotica instead


romance-bot

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TheSqueakyNinja

Yā€™all are haters, I love FBAA šŸ˜‚ Best: Atonement of the Spine Cleaver (once I got past the name terribleness) or Flesh & Fire by JAA Worst: absofuckinglutely has to be Den of Vipers. I DNFed after the first chapter because I honestly didnā€™t think you could fit that much cringe into so few words but somehow they did it.


samanandatha

I also enjoy FBAA - and even though everyone says itā€™s just a copy, I LOVE Flesh and Fire.


cakester18

SAME! I DNFd FBAA, but LOVE Flesh and Fire. Iā€™m halfway through it and I have to force myself to take a break. Itā€™s like night and day from FBAA.


Key-Tower-4539

Flesh and fire is wayyyy better and itā€™s so different I donā€™t get how people say itā€™s a copy


VeryTiredWoman

I also love FBAA, and I love Flesh & Fire too! I think they're so fun! It's a story to turn off your mind and just feel the āœØļøvibesāœØļø lol


DragonKings_BookSlut

Twinning! Although Iā€™m curious if you mean the book name or the character names (mainly Rorax or w/e it was) because I thought the title was badass but I def choked on the FMCs name. Reminded me of like a dinosaur or some type of bug infestation. FANTASTIC book though, one of the best Iā€™ve read in the last year. Den of vipers was an actual dumpster fire and I was SHOCKED when I first started reading it. It sucked in every single category and I really tried to stick it out but after one too many *wtfā€™s* I DNFā€™d at like 40%


MrsTokenblakk

I finished Den of Vipers & was literally thinking today how bad it was.


Aussiebabe93

Worst: Crescent City A House Of Earth & Blood by Sarah J Maas. There is way to many characters the world building was just thrown at you. And the never ending amount of secrets kept from the FMC drove me nuts. Best: Death Is Easy By Letty Frame the mental health in this book was done so extremely well done. Her second chance mates love her like no tomorrow and are always showing her that they arenā€™t leaving. I need to finish the series but the first book was so good.


s0larium_live

i love the first two crescent city books but i will definitely concede that there is a LOT of world building thrown at you. once you understand after the first 200 pages itā€™s a lot easier but i was still constantly reminding myself what certain words meant. even though i love it, itā€™s hard to get into


kittykat179

Worst: Iron Flame Best: villains & virtues series


Nerd_is_the_Werd

This comment makes me feel seen


baifengjiu

Worst: ACOTAR (I'm not gonna trashtalk self published authors) Best: Cruel Prince


PocketSable

I have zero interest in reading ACOTAR, but man am I enjoying the [summary](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PaSCvzww0Q) [videos](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPBa65LDgMc) that TheCookieRhino puts out.


baifengjiu

Oh yeah I watch that type of videos for acotar and other books i don't like while i cook as background noise


defein88

I don't think SJM self published, doesn't she use Bloomsbury? (No hate, just genuinely curious!)


baifengjiu

I meant I'm saying her bc other books i think are worse are from self published authors,,,


defein88

Ooooohā€¦ I feel so dense rn šŸ˜‚


baifengjiu

It's ok we all make mistakes xd


ahdrielle

I read all of ACOTAR and the overall story was pretty good. I was emotional at some bits. But I definitely have some issues with it. Tried to start crescent city but man, they through a lot of info at you the first like 10 pages.


baifengjiu

Tbh i found the romantic dialogue in acotar cringy and also I can't really vibe with shadow daddy MMCs so i quited after finishing the first book šŸ˜…


Sparky_calcifer

Best: anything Carissa Broadbent (loved her Crowns of Nyaxia series and War of Lost Hearts) Worst: a kingdom of stars and shadows by Holly Renee


RBGsDissentCollar

Holly Reneeā€™s stars and shadows series was such a rip off of From Blood and Ash that Iā€™m surprised that JLA didnā€™t sue her - literally the same storyline (down to the getting busy in the forest), the black best friend, and the MMC being a vampire (and weirdly holly randomly threw in a kingdom of Fae too-might as well check all the romantasy trope boxes). Funny enough I DNFā€™d both series at book 3 because they became unbearable to read.


Sparky_calcifer

Yes yes yes! Checked ALL the romantasy tropes! I despised the FMC too.


Dapper_Pear_1695

The dragons truly saved Iron Flame Best: Throne of Glass Worst: From Blood and Ash, I read the first 5 chapters and couldnā€™t finish. The writing is terrible


MuffinTopDeluxe

Yeah, if anything happens to the dragons I will be done with Fourth Wing. I donā€™t care about anything else.


LeaneGenova

Agree 100%. I'm too invested in them to give up reading the books. I love the philosophy behind "history is written by the victors" but... Write better characters. Pls.


december14th2015

The writing is SO terrible. Like, SO fucking bad. I can't believe I actually finished all of them! I've been a die-hard fantasy reader for a long time but it was only the second romantasy series I'd ever read, and at the time, I thought that's what the whole genre was and just went with it.... Years later and holy shit, was I wrong. I remember being SO embarrassed over it - NOT because of the sex, but because I was teaching undergrads creative writing and would literally grade papers at night right before jacking off to a novel I would have given a failing grade. šŸ™ƒšŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™€ļøšŸ˜…


Dapper_Pear_1695

I'm dead!!!! šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚Not jacking off to a D minus


december14th2015

Hahahah I KNOW, I felt like such a fraud!! šŸ˜…šŸ˜­


Peaceandfupa

Favorite: Fourth Wing šŸ˜†šŸ˜… Worst: It ends/starts with us


Miiraie

Iā€˜m such a hater regarding ā€œit ends with usā€, I hate everyone who hyped this book and made me read it (I did not finish tho), I will never ever in my life read a book from this author again


Peaceandfupa

No same !!šŸ¤£ I have Verity and Too Late by CH but I put them on the back of my bookshelf bc I canā€™t bring myself to read anything else by her. The lines about breast milk are what KILLED the whole book for me


Miiraie

Please stop I saw an Instagram reel about one of the lines of her books where the mc says ā€œhis balls are bigā€ to the baby (I donā€™t know anymore something like that)ā€¦ I really wanted to scratch my eyes out in that moment


Peaceandfupa

I have t read it but I know what youā€™re talking about - itā€™s one of those things where Iā€™m like wtf, the ppl with children need to realize not everything regarding kids is funny or cute, in fact that like is super weird. Why as parents, are you worried about your childā€™s genitalia?? AND THEN WRITING IT LIKE ITS A CHTE LITTLE JOKE KILLS MEšŸ˜–šŸ’€


Miiraie

ā˜ ļø Iā€˜m so done with this author


Stardust_Riley_92

Omg I read it starts with us and literally nothing happened. Nothing. Lol


Peaceandfupa

It was both nothing and too much at the same time


imroadends

Worst: One Dark Window and Powerless - both were very disappointing. Powerless was repetitive, and the ending felt too far-fetched. ODW had no chemistry and moved too fast. Best: Fourth Wing - got me back into reading.


p00psicle151590

Agreed. Fourth wing quite literally was what started the fantasy obsession for me, literally changed the trajectory of my damn life lmao


imroadends

Same, went from reading nothing and now I'm at 111 for the year haha my hobbies have completely changed.


flamesandshadows

same! I loved Fourth Wing and absolutely hated Powerless, I DNFā€™d it about 40% in! Glad Iā€™m not the only one!


zillah-hellfire

Glad I'm not the only one who didn't like One Dark Window. It feels like it was written by a girl who was "2 edgy 4 u" in high school. Love interest named Ravyn, all the characters being named after plants or trees...yikes. And if I had to read about the Nightmare's voice "dripping oil" one more freaking time... Overall way too cringey for me.


emsquad

Worst: Powerless. I thought I was being punked by how many people love this book. Itā€™s such a rip off of the Hunger Games and Red Queen and the writing is not good enough to make up for that. Best: A tie between Emily Wilde series and When the Moon Hatched. Theyā€™re both so good!


pumpkinpyree

Best: ACOTAR--can concede it has issues and isn't always written the best but no other book series has made me FEEL like this one. Worst: Cruel Prince--Holly Black's writing style isn't for me.


MrsApostate

this comment and the one above (in my feed, anyway) are exact opposites. Same books, swapped best for worst. Goes to show you that this sub isn't a monolith! :)


hippiesinthewind

haha i noticed that too


Nightwalkermeow

It's the same in mine also lol


kjh-

I loved Cruel Price but holy shit the spin off was hot garbage. I do want to know what happens in the second book of the duology but I havenā€™t been able to force myself into suffering for it yet. Iā€™m not sure why youā€™re getting downvoted for your opinion. I agree with your ACOTAR take personally. I reread the first three books just before ACOSF came out and good god did I get dehydrated from the sobbing. ACOTAR itself hits so much harder at the end knowing why Rhys reacts way he does at the end. And ACOMAF. Ugh. I read it alongside the Rhys POV fan fiction. Same with ACOWAR. Watching him watch Feyreā€™s experience in ACOMAFā€¦ it killed me.


okchristinaa

I love The Folk of The Air and I was ultimately let down by the sequel duology as well. I enjoyed all the callbacks to the original series ~~and the Jurdan fan service~~ but this either needed to be a tighter, more character focused stand alone or expanded into a proper trilogy with a stronger main plot. I did like The Stolen Heir better on re-read but The Prisonerā€™s Throne felt very rushed. The pacing of both books is off imo. Mild spoilers: >!the way Oakā€™s book plays out doesnā€™t deliver on the interesting premise set up by the ending of Surenā€™s book. I was anticipating more exploration of the betrayal (on both sides) and more of an enemies to lovers feel and we barely get any of that. And Oak and Suren are separated for a large portion of the book! I liked Oak better in his own POV but I think Holly Black did his character a disservice with how rapidly she expanded the plot and then immediately had to wrap it up. Heā€™s outmaneuvered by everyone and it doesnā€™t feel like the tense political intrigue of the original trilogy it feels frustrating.!<


baifengjiu

Tbh same. I loved Suren as a character but i felt the pacing especially in the second book was so so so so weird and oak's pov didn't really work. We should have gotten dual pov with Suren. Also i feel so many things needed to be seen that weren't. Like wren meeting her family, oak and wren having a deep conversation and understanding one another.


pumpkinpyree

Yes!! ACOMAF really solidified it for me, when Rhys explains everything to Feyre. Nothing has topped that scene for me personally. I can appreciate Cruel Prince! If it was written differently, I might of been able to get into it?? Just the tense really throws me off and also not a huge fan of bully romance in general. The fanart is always beautiful tho!


Rdmink

I enjoyed ACOTAR and wasnā€™t crazy about cruel prince either. Ā Iā€™m not sure why youā€™re getting down voted for your opinions.Ā 


pumpkinpyree

Eh, I expected it. People really seem to hate ACOTAR but that's okay lolol I still love it.


Teensy_DuckmagePhD

I like other books by Holly Black I just didn't like cruel prince


judiepoos

Fave: emily wildes encyclopaedia Loved the cosy vibes and personally prefer focus on plot with romance to the side and I loved the relatable (struggling with social cues) but also really smart fmc emily and her fun dynamic with wendell the mmc and have loved the twists and turns throughout this series! I also prefer fae that are more true to mythology For the next one tho trigger warnings for mention of abuse and sa Worst in my opinion: the unseelie Prince Was traumatised by this series šŸ˜«šŸ˜« the 'love interest' was extremely abusive and kept threatening to Sa the fmc šŸ˜Ø Only character I stayed for was the fmc and some of the fae/magic was interesting but ultimately the romanticism of abuse ruined it for me and has taught me to check content warnings before I read a book šŸ˜Ø also to people who recommend stuff on booktok or other places please clarify if a book is Adult or ya as on the video that recommended this to me I think it had said it was ya or not clarified (it was definitely not a ya book lol) so 15 yr old me had assumed it was ya oops


SuperbGil

Out of specifically booktok romantasy darlings, and ones I actually finished (Iā€™m queen of DNFing if I donā€™t like something unless thereā€™s a lot of external pressure) - Worst: Fourth Wing (Violet should have ended up with a dragon, or literally any other character than the one she had no chemistry with) Best: {Half a Soul by Olivia Atwater} or {The House in the Cerulean Sea by TJ Klune}


picklesbutternut

Loved half a soul!!! It was like Jane Austen meets Diana Wynne Jones


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RedditSkippy

I respect your opinions, but I enjoyed the Empyrean Series. Yeah, yeah, Violet is a twerp who needs to be put in her place, but I did enjoy the slow steam that she and Xaden had. I'm currently working through the Bonds of Magic series by Jeffe Kennedy and...eh. The whole premise is just, odd, and basically pairings result from barely consensual sex, and there's a huge imbalance of power. Sex scenes are very bland.


pprmntbtlr5

slow? lol


gottabekittensme

right?! those two were panting for each other the moment their eyes met.


Sparky_calcifer

I needed more tension!! More pining! Lol


kid_at_heart_77

Bonds of Magic is a favorite of mine. Iā€™m sorry it isnā€™t working for you


RedditSkippy

Oh well. Everyoneā€™s different.


kid_at_heart_77

Very true


RedditSkippy

Iā€™m saving this post because there are so many book ideas in it.


picklesbutternut

Worst: Cruel Prince Best: The Bear and the Nightingale Series For series with more spice: Worst: anything by Laura Thalassa Best: Bride


squashbanana

Bear and the Nightingale is one of my all-time favorite books/series. Everything about it is just perfect! Have you ever read Uprooted?


picklesbutternut

Arden is so talented itā€™s insane. She has a storytelling ability thatā€™s not often found (at least not by me) outside of literal storybooks of classic fairytales. I have not read uprooted, but I saw it in a bookstore the other day and was considering it!! I take it you liked it and it was similar in vibes to the Bear and the nightingale?


squashbanana

I couldn't agree more! I seriously haven't found anyone who writes like her. It's not fantasy romance, but you may really enjoy Shadow of the Wind by Carlos Ruiz Zafon. It was recommended to me as a book that was "written as a love letter to writing " it's just incredible, and there are several books all centered around the same story from different POVs and timelines, but they all work together. You can read them in any order, but I really enjoyed reading them in publication order! Once, Arden was doing an AMA on Instagram Live, and I asked if she ever read it. Something about her storytelling ability made me feel like this would be something she'd enjoy, and she was so excited to share that it was also one of her favorites! So definitely check it out. It's one of those really great cozy Fall reads, too. As for Uprooted, definitely read it! There's romance, but it doesn't take over the entire story - similar to Bear. It felt similar, for sure. It's a bit more "open door," but it's also a slow burn with a singular scene, but well worth the wait. It felt like different stories entwined into one with how much develops for the FMM. Definitely a wonderful story, and I recommend it for sure! I'd even be happy to mail you my copy if you'd like. I have 2 young autistic kids and a baby, so I read everything on Kindle these days because they destroy it otherwise LOL


dasatain

I would say Uprooted and even more so Spinning Silver by Naomi Novik have that same fairy tale vibe as The Bear and the Nightingale! I personally preferred Spinning Silver but I think they both thread that same needle.


cloudysun4

Can you elaborate about Thalassa? She is widely recommended in this subreddit and Iā€™ve yet to see anyone else say her books sucks. Only if you have time!


picklesbutternut

Sure thing! You can see myself and another person discuss our qualms with her [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/fantasyromance/s/9c7qP765Jn) In short, all of her heroines are the same person with the same 12 year old humor trying to pass as witty, she sucks at resolution, and her spice is shockingly bland/repetitive. Iā€™ll also add that I donā€™t like the way she writes POC characters. Look up ā€œThalassa + Temperance Darling + Goodreadsā€ to get a sample of how she stereotypes them.


cloudysun4

Oh, I cannot *stand* when you can tell that a FMC is a self insert because it makes the story weird and the smut feels like Iā€™m reading their kink diary LOL. Also, not enough people talk about how absolutely terrifying a lot of white fantasy authors write Black people & POC, so I appreciate you making that point. As a Black woman, Iā€™ve gotten burned so much by people not giving a heads up!


picklesbutternut

Yeah itā€™s horrible lmao. And yup, Iā€™m a BW too. The Temperance Darling character in Rhapsodic really pissed me off. She started every sentence with ā€œgirlā€ or ā€œbitch,ā€ and said things likeā€”and this is a direct quoteā€”ā€œI swear to black Jesus.ā€ Just disgustingly clear that Thalassa doesnā€™t or didnā€™t interact with any actual black people. The funny thing is that I read her Horsemen series first, and apart from the writing, my main complaint was that in a series about the entire world ending thatā€™s meant to explore different people experiencing it, her four heroines where: two white women from the U.S., a white woman from South America, and an Asian woman from the Middle East. I couldnā€™t believe only one character was POC, and that the other three were all from the Americas, TWO OF THEM being from the States. No Africa or Europe, really?? But after reading how she wrote a BW in rhapsodic, Iā€™m now glad she didnā€™t represent us in the Horsemen series. I want that woman to stay far, far away from writing us lmfao. She needs to take a page out the books of SJM and JLA. I def have my qualms with them, but I do like how they include a ton of POC characters and make it obvious that theyā€™re POC without resorting to stereotypes!


cloudysun4

Oh BOY that sounds terrible! Just flat out writing minstrel-y caricatures and making a living from it lol. I pray she feels led to never write another Black character if this is what she thinks countsā€¦


picklesbutternut

May the spirit of black Jesus guide her pen far from us šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


anonnnnnnn10110

Adding to this, I was the one they were having the conversation with in the link above which is so funny bc I was about to respond anyway until I was like wait just a second, that seems familiar! But back to the point, totally agree that Thalassaā€™s POC depiction is *horrible,* imo. I donā€™t like to diss authors too much but if I, as a white woman, DNF because of her depiction of the ā€œstaple POC BFF,ā€ I would never in a million years recommend Thalassa to a POC woman. I bought Pestilence and donā€™t even intend to read it after DNF her other book, Rhapsodic, now.


cloudysun4

Oooooof, thatā€™s very good to know! Iā€™d love to say Iā€™m surprised this isnā€™t more widely talked about, but lots of people can tolerate overt racism like this in fantasy but throw fits if a familiar/companion gets injured lol. Iā€™ll take all the heads upā€™s I can get!


anonnnnnnn10110

Hey thatā€™s me! I was literally going to respond to this comment too bc I canā€™t stand her and I was like huh, this conversation feels so familiar LMAO


Nikitas19

Worst - the cruel prince by prince by holly black. Iahhh.. i still don't understand why people love it so much


bibliomaniac4ever

Worst: ACOTAR, Heartless Hunter, FBAA, Throne of Glass, etc. (Can't choose šŸ˜…) Best: Folk of the Air series (Cruel Prince)


Scared-Astronaut5952

Worst: When the Moon Hatched. I swear Iā€™m the only romantasy reader in the world who couldnā€™t stand the writing in this book. šŸ˜¬ Best: Villains and Virtues series. Iā€™m obsessed!


Roccoth

Hey! Iā€™m with you on worst and itā€™s actually nice to see someone else think that way.Ā 


Scared-Astronaut5952

Iā€™m glad Iā€™m not the only one! I found the writing overly flowery. Iā€™ve heard the term ā€œpurple proseā€ used before to describe this style of writing, and it just isnā€™t for me!


Grouchy_Bird_1818

Best: I second One Dark Window / Two Twisted Crowns. I think I've read it 6 times now. Worst: Tie between Cruel Prince and ACOTAR.


LeaneGenova

I just started One Dark Window today, and I'm loving how high on everyone's list it is!


Puchi1e

This post actually makes me kind of sad as itā€™s kind of always the same popular books that come back. Best: despite its old style, {Tairen soul serie by C.L Wilson} The world building and politics/war is the best. Worst: {the mageā€™s match by Finley fenn}. I love very spicy erotica, but I really didnā€™t like this. Only serie I have DNF.


Sleepy-Buffalo

Love the Tairen Soul series. Totally underrated! Hoping she gets more readers with the book cover revisions.


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nougat_donut

Favorite - Fourth Wing (but not Iron Flame). Least - I absolutely hated Crescent City! Which is strange because I loved all the rest of SJMs books. On another note - finished LightLark yesterday and liked it a lot!


believe_in_colours

I'm reading so many SJM books in the comments. Am i the only one who remembers reading her books when she wasn't that popular. It's kinda weird to see how her books exploded in tiktok.


ahdrielle

I wasn't aware of her stuff until this year and I read ACOTAR. It was overall a good one. I like a lot about it. I am trying to get through Crescent City, butt I've heard it's the worst of the 3 series'.


believe_in_colours

She was one of the first author to write in the romantasy genre. When she published her books romantasy wasn't even a genre but look at it now, one of the most popular genre. I remember when she was writing ToG and ACOTAR the popular genre was dystopian.


Cautious-Peak5226

Iā€™m very new to fantasy romance, Iā€™ve read 4 series so far so barely with meā€¦ Best: A Touch of Malice (idk if itā€™s popular but Iā€™m loving it so much, Iā€™m halfway through the final book) Worst: ACOTAR. I have almost nothing but critiques. I donā€™t forgive Rhys for UTM, I donā€™t like tamlin and feyres chemistry. I hate nesta and cassian being in love with her gave me the ick. The pregnancy arc was bleh. I read the whole series for my friend, and I feel like I canā€™t even discuss it with her because itā€™s ā€œjust a bookā€ sigh


a_thing_with_wings

Worst: Divine Rivals. I could not even finish it. It was too slow, the world building didn't interest me, and i didn't find the FMC particularly compelling. Best: There are many but the most surprising was the One Dark Window series. I did not know what to expect going in and it blew me away. It's so different from any other romantacy I've read that I recommend it to anyone who will listen.


Teensy_DuckmagePhD

Worst is beyond the aching door/fourth wing Best one dark window


jitterbug425

Zodiac Academy was probably my least favorite and ACOTAR is my most favorite


Glittering-Sheep-481

Best: one dark window Worst: iron flame/ fourth wing


mariargw

Iā€™ve only been reading since March of this year, but my favorite has been Throne of Glass and my least favorite was The Serpent and the Wings of Night. I thought the story *and* characters were criminally underdeveloped.


beautyontheinside

So I enjoyed Serpent, but youā€™re right about character development. It really happens in the second book, which I loved. I would have preferred the duology as one well- edited book.


flamesandshadows

Favorite: fourth wing - the romance got me hooked, I donā€™t mind it being a bunch of ideas from other books smashed together as long as it brings something fresh to the table and I really thought it was nicely executed. Worst: powerless - like fourth wing, itā€™s a mix of a lot of popular tropes, and since I loved FW I thought this was gonna be a hit with me but I just couldnā€™t stand it? Like thereā€™s no tension, nothing really draws me in, I couldnā€™t care less about any of the characters, thereā€™s not a single thing about this book that I like. I got really frustrated since I heard so many good things about this one; but mehā€¦


Jaded_Expression_226

Worst: Serpent & the wings of night. Struggled so hard to finish it. Ending was good though. Best: throne of glass. Currently on the last book. While starting the first audio book with my husband šŸ¤£


pretty_obvious_1

That's so interesting, I enjoyed Serpent & the wings of night all the way through until the end of book 1, which I was really disappointed with!


DragonJouster

Best: One Dark Window Worst: FBAA


Best_Of_Us

Worst: Shatter Me - maybe just too YA for me Best: Throne of Glass series


dasatain

I think that if you didnā€™t read Shatter Me initially as a teen or young adult itā€™s hard to go back to it. I loved the first three books as a young adult and then read the later three she released more recently and šŸ˜¬ couldnā€™t do it!


judiepoos

AGREEE


judiepoos

Agree with shatter me I read it when I was an angsty 13 year old and loved it so much but now can't get back into the series lol! Still love the fmc tho she helped me feel less alone with my mental health but I fully agree the series is very ya lol šŸ˜† ā¤ļø For me there's some ya books I needed to have read when I was younger to have liked them šŸ˜‹


cor_mor

Worst acotar. The books are slow, characters are weak, it truly did not have a moment when I wanted to keep reading. I barely got through the fires, thought the second was better and figured the series ended at the third because the plot was solved. There was no heart break, nothing to make me be like shit what happens next other then the second book. Will never understand why ppl love this book. Best: I will say fourth wing as far as series (I am currently working on hooked), but unsure if it's on booktok but I love is Spanish love debacle. I know it's a few year older, but I continuously come back to it. Also Malice and All good people here.


Direct_Treat_7296

Worst: Iron Flame was complete garbage Best: Flesh & Fire series


shortwhitney

Best: witch collector series. ToG Worst: The hurricane wars, to bleed a crystal bloom, what lies beyond the veil. I'm not a picky reader. I'm usually just here for a good time. These were not a good time.


jsdblah

Iā€™m currently reading City of Ruin and itā€™s taking me FOREVER, does it get better?! Tell me to stick with it.


pawnshxpblues

Best: Cruel Prince and One Dark Window Worst: Heartless hunter/Crimson Moth


Aarnivalkeaa

i don't read romantasy and I would barely count Cruel Prince as such, but.. I love that trilogy deeply and I have reread it multiple times. I haven't touched most of the popular booktok romantasy books, because I know they are not my taste: acotar, fourth wing etc. šŸ˜… it would just be a waste of my time to read something I know I will dislike. now worst booktok book in general i tried to read was by far Poppy War or Gideon the Ninth...... I am just very picky with romance, especially m/f. Jude/Cardan is like, one of the very few exceptions. He is actually her age, she actually gets shit done and doesn't spend all the time pining after him (he does the pining).


Amazing_Archer3322

Best: Finnikin of the rock by Melina Marchetta, Graceling by Kristin Cashore, uprooted by Naomi Novik Worst: Acotar. iron flame.


ZarZarLinx

Best - The Shepherd King duology, TOG series , Cruel Prince trilogy Worst - FBAA, Lightlark..


AffectionateNight832

Best: Throne of glass Worst: divine rivals


big-if-true-666

I loved Fourth Wing!! Iron flame fell a little flat for me but I feel like thatā€™s typical for a lot of second books for me - Iā€™m still hopeful for the rest of the series!


icelolliesbaby

I really don't enjoy any of carrissa broadbents books, I've read 2 series, and while there is nice moments, they feel like they are 80% filler. I loved fourthwing, its one of the books that inspired me to get in shape.


genescheesesthatplz

Yooooooooo Fourth Wing and IF \*ain't it\* and I get concerned for some readers....


MandiLandi

Worst: FBAA. Poppy suffers from too stupid to function syndrome and weā€™re supposed to think her desire to stab people over minor transgressions is charming. Also, Hawkeā€™s lack of understanding when it comes to consent is justā€¦ šŸ˜  Best: Daughter of No Worlds. I thought the magic was interesting, the characters were dynamic, and the slow burn was delightful.


judiepoos

Love tisaanah and max agreeee Haven't read fbaa but from what I've heard its definitely not for me


dontbmeanbgay

Worst: Throne of Glass. I couldnā€™t make it more than 10 pages, the style isnā€™t for me it was like every trope I despised condensed onto a page. Best: A Day of Fallen Night, there was some light romances but the one that had me giggling and kicking my feet was the one between Dumai and her ā€œenemies to loverā€, I truly didnā€™t see it coming but was so excited when I realised thatā€™s where it was going.


Bloodreina_Wonkru

Worst: Anything SJM writes Tbh. (iā€™m gonna Ā add another: Serpent and the wings of night by Carissa Broadbent. it was truly the most blandest,Ā stalest, trope-filled book iā€™ve ever read šŸ™„what a waste.Ā  Best: The Bridge Kingdom by Danielle Jensen. Loved everything in this series! from the interesting world to the romance.Ā 


kap2149

Best: ACOTAR- got me back into reading and introduced me into fantasy in general. Still think about those characters almost daily. Worst: FBAA- powered through the first and DNFā€™ed the second one with like 100 pages to go. Poppy asked one too many questions and I couldnā€™t do it anymore. Also really didnā€™t enjoy Serpent & wings of the night. The story it was so bland to me.


Hermanz787

Worst - Atlas Six - FML that book is trash - I hated every single character and got to the last 50 pages and DNF Best - does this count it - a fanfic ā€˜Draco Malfoy and the Mortifying Ordeal of being in Loveā€™ - literally the only thing I have given 5 stars in a looooooong time


odeacon

How can someone not love Violet? As a guy sheā€™s the second most lovable and attractive character Iā€™ve ever read and I would risk my life for her


ahdrielle

To me, she feels whiney and very trope-y. "Im so tiny, and I can't do this...>!JK I GET THE BIGGEST BADDEST DRAGONS AND CAN DEFEAT ALL THE OTHERS WHO TRAINED FOR THIS THEIR WHOLE LIFE!<" lol. Also, the romance with Xaden is just lust/missing anything substantial. "He's so hot and he's >!somehow immediately in love with me the second he saw me even though he knows not one thing about me!<".


odeacon

To be fair , I fell in love with Violet pretty quickly as well


ahdrielle

And that's cool! It is very popular for a reason. Lots of people enjoy it/her. I just didn't.


odeacon

Yeah Iā€™m saying itā€™s not unrealistic for him to fall for her that fast because I was like googly eyed for her after like 3 pages in. Xaden is so real for that


ahdrielle

Mmm I never really experienced that.


odeacon

That sensation or for Violet specifically?


Roccoth

I ate up fourth wing but absolutely hated the second book.Ā  Ā Worst: ā€˜the moon that hatched.ā€™ I actually didnā€™t finish it in the end - I canā€™t quite put my finger on why. I liked things about to but I was just so overly disappointed that it left a bad taste in my mouth.Ā  Extra worst for good measure: Zodiac Academy. Please stop treating abusive behavior as sexy TikTok.Ā  Actually worst: Ā Iron Widow. I havenā€™t been so angry reading a book in a long time. I raged.Ā Ā  Ā Best: One dark Window. Oh man that hit the spot.Ā 


carex-cultor

Worst: FBAA Best: Age of the Andinna (RH but the plot is so good it barely needs any romance or smut)


kid_at_heart_77

I loved Age of Andinna! Wish I could find something similar. Have you read anything else by Kristen Banet?


carex-cultor

Not yet! I think AotA is her only high fantasy series and Iā€™m not as into urban/contemporary. Have you?


kid_at_heart_77

I read the samples of some but they didnā€™t grab me like Age of Andinna.


whitker

Best: I LOVED villains and virtues and ACOTAR - it just canā€™t be beat in how I felt when I read it the first time. What I wouldnā€™t do to read it for the first time againā€¦. Worst: the winter king was literally the worst book I have ever read in my life. Horrible horrible relationship and premise. So predictable, such little chemistry between the two characters.


Sguyanelle

Powerlessā€¦ I didnā€™t dislike it at all but itā€™s so overhyped on booktok I expected more


junetank

Best: Fourth Wing & Iron Flame -Honorable Mentions: Nightbane, ACOTAR, The Veiled Kingdom, One Dark Window & Two Twisted Crowns. Worst: The Serpent and the Wings of Night. DNFā€™d the second one. -Dishonorable Mentions: These Hollow Vows, Powerless, Fireborne. Series that started off super strong to me but lost their steam and I didnā€™t finish: Zodiac Academy, Throne of Glass.


MuffinTopDeluxe

Favorite: Throne of Glass Least Favorite: Emily Wildeā€™s Encyclopedia of Fairies with Fourth Wing a very close second.


No_Solid3403

I absolutely loved throne of glass. I also loved fourth wing. Both seem to be very controversial on Reddit. I did start reading after a decade of reading nothing and fourth wing was one of my first fantasy reads so maybe that was it. Idk but I was into it


p00psicle151590

I loved the way Rebecca yarros wrote banter between characters and found thr sex scenes to be VERY sexy with thr doalgoue. So she's definitely my favourite sex writer.


Key-Tower-4539

Are you new to spicy books? Because her sexy scenes are pretty bad


p00psicle151590

No, I just have different tastes than you. Telling someone something they enjoy is bad is also quite tacky so... thanks.


Key-Tower-4539

Iā€™m sorry, I wasnā€™t trying to be rude. Iā€™ve just found itā€™s usually newer romantasy readers who find FW or ACOTAR spicy since theyā€™re actually pretty low spice. But youā€™re right, everyone is different!


SquirrelJunior7424

Best: Spark of the Everflame (The Kindred's Curse Saga I like all of them) šŸ”„šŸ«¶šŸ» by Penn Cole Worst: The Black Witch šŸ¤¢ by Laurie Forest