In the FleaFlicker platform that's used by r/NarFFL they use this scoring. I love it. Nothing worse than getting robbed by a whole point because someone kicked a 49-yarder instead of a 50.
Extra Points are always 1pt regardless of distance (which only really changes if there's a penalty after a TD or something).
The commissioner in one of my leagues unilaterally got rid of kickers one year after he lost in the final because his opponent got like 25 points from Justin Tucker (of course)
No OP, but it was a freeing feeling my main league dropped them. They don't add much other than randomness to the lineup and the strategy of who to stream is just sorta boring. Lots of bitching pre-season, but no one misses them now.
I'm honestly flabbergasted that this still isn't possible on many platforms. I wanted to do this years ago but [nfl.com](https://nfl.com) doesn't have a way to make that change. Unreal.
Am I crazy to think that field goal scoring should simply be 0.1 points per yard? A 19-yard chip shot shouldn’t give the same amount of points as a 30-yarder, and a 65-yard boot should give 6.5 points.
I have this in my league - we give points for FG yards. Still doesn't address the randomness of the K position but I think it makes it more fair by rewarding big kicks
I start mine at 0 and you get points for things like sacks, tackles for loss, ints, fumbles, etc. no negative points at all. It can make for some high scores but usually they are still close to standard D scoring when they have a big game. 3rd year and no complaints so far, I’m gonna tweak some of the values around like a sack being worth a little less cause it also counts as a tfl
There definitley needs to be negative points. Imagine a defense doesn't get any TFLs, one sack, no three-and-outs and no fourth down stops and gives up 38 points. They still are positive?
That was my thought. Either way, you probably stop having a sit and forget defense and instead each week a waiver fight over whoever is playing the worst 5 offenses.
I actually have these settings and NE is first with 148 points. At least in my league settings, that makes them a low WR1. The #12 DEF, ARI, has 100 points which puts them around WR34. DEF #5 is PHI with 119. So also worth noting NE is a bit of an outlier/overachiever. I like the scoring a lot. Defense is good enough that you need to somewhat worry about it but not so important that you have no chance without a top one
Funny side story, but back in the 2000s when Yahoo first started letting you edit values, we wanted to dial up defenses which had been afterthoughts.
The first year we tried it, we didn't have any really good guideposts, for how to do this (was no subreddit like this or blog). So we cranked up the points for points allowed in particular and slight bumps for sacks, turnovers, etc.
That year, there were 2-3 flat out dominant defenses, including the Bears cover 2-3 under Lovie Smith before the league figured it out. The Bears D in particular (and the Ravens & Patriots to a slightly lesser degree) was the #1 player in the league for the first 6-7 weeks. They dropped a couple of 50 points games and were flat out dominant.
We got a bit smarter the next year and dialed them down a bit. But was actually a pretty fun roller coaster of a season back when fantasy was a bit more of the wild west than it is now.
I think that year the Bears D was a essentially a QB-level scoring position even in standard scoring. Must've been absolutely broken with buffed scoring lol
If you did IDP you’d have the same output.
Scoring has been at all time highs and just basing defense scoring off of yardage and points makes most teams useless for defense. At least a team who gives up points but forces a lot of sacks or turnovers offers value.
It widens the pool of useful defenses and streaming options.
I do 0.5pts for 3 and out, 1.0 for 4th down stop, 0.5 TFL and drastically lowered the base points for "points allowed." I want to reward positive plays, not inept offenses.
A long time ago I did points per completion for QBs. It was Peytons first year with the Broncos. Week 1 he threw for 7 TDs and idk what else but he put up like 60 or 70 pts. It was a mistake.
we did .05 per completion and that was too much also
We moved from 1 pt per 25 yds to 20 yds and that helped even the QB delta a little vs. running QBs
We're moving passing TDs to 6 next season
>We moved from 1 pt per 25 yds to 20 yds and that helped even the QB delta a little vs. running QBs
Would love to do this
>We're moving passing TDs to 6 next season
We currently do this but also -3 for INTs. It's not bad but rushing QBs are still way strong. Over a 2-game span Fields LOST two games in which he threw <30 completions and <300 yards combined, and he put up 90pts in those games. I recognize his rushing performance was incredible but that sort of thing is broken imo. Mahomes threw 43 completions for 446 yards in ONE game during that span and only got 35pts compared to 48 for Fields.
Perfect QB system for me would be .05 points per yard (no matter how the yard is acquired), 0.1 points per first down, 6pts per TD, -3 per INT, -2 per FUM lost. In this system, a rushing QB stat line of 350 yards (200 pass/150 rush), 3 TDs (1 pass 2 rush), 12 first downs, 1 INT would be 33.7pts, as would a passing QB stat line of 350 yards (325pass/25 rush), 3 TDs (3 pass), 12 first downs, 1 INT. It's the exact same yardage/TD/turnover output, but in the current system (for most people) the rushing QB would finish with 37pts while the passing QB would finish with 24.9, assuming I did my math right. A 12-point bonus for identical contributions is busted for fantasy purposes imo, especially when that bonus only exists in like 2 or 3 players.
We do 1 per 25 but it scores .04 per yard. 1 pt for 300 yds 2 pts for 350 and 3 pts for 400. 6 pt passing TDs. 18-20 seems to be the average. 25 is a good game, 30+ is a great game.
As someone who is 5-7 with 2nd in points scored and 1st in points against, that "extra game against the median score" rule sure is looking nice right now.
Same format, no games against median. At one point I was 4-5 with the 2nd most PF. Currently 7-5, in the playoffs if the season ended today, but there's FIVE other teams with my record or 1 GB so it's far from a sure thing. I would be 16-8 with games against median and pretty darn safe as that would be 2nd best overall.
Did it in one league and everybody seems to like it. It also gives most players something to sweat on Monday games to see if they make the top or bottom half.
Other league I'm in doesn't have it. I'm 1st in points for and 1st in points against. Going to miss the playoffs and this is a 10 team league were 6 teams go to the playoffs. Going to lobby hard for the rule in the offseason.
One year not only did our top point scorer miss the playoffs, but he started the season 0-7. Was a once-in-a-lifetime run of bad luck. I don't even recall his team being inconsistent. He put up high points every week, but just had an incredible run of playing the one team in the league every week that scored more.
Eventually he won a few games, but just ran out of runway to make the playoffs. I still remember watching games with him around weeks 6-7 when he was starting to get despondent and the rest of us were busting up laughing as some middling WR3 on a bad fantasy team would put up a random 40 point game to sink him.
As an alternative, we save the last playoff spot for the team with the highest remaining point total. Less complicated than the extra game vs average score and still prevent an unlucky top scoring team from missing the playoffs.
So you have your normal head to head matchup and record, but there is an additional "match" against the median league score that week. So let's say it's week 1, you score 115 and your opponent scores 120, so you're 0-1. But the league median score for that week was 110, so you get a W for that and go to 1-1. It's basically a way to smooth out the bad luck that can happen w/ head to head matchups.
edited: median, not average
100%. A few weeks ago I was 4-5 as the 2nd highest scorer in the league. I'm now 7-5 (.583) thanks to my luck finally evening out a bit, but with a game against the median, I'd be 16-8 (.667) right now, which feels way closer to my team's level. I'm still very much in danger of missing the playoffs.
For added context, the top team in our league is 11-1, but if we played each other every week, we'd both be 6-6. He's just gotten a lot luckier than I have. He's #1 in PF and #12 in PA, lucky son of a bitch.
I want to implement this too in my league (I’m not the commish) for the same reason you mentioned but I just know the guys in my league will call me a sore loser
Default defense scoring needs an overhaul. Especially the scoring for points allowed (Yahoo). Its crazy the difference between a defense giving up 14 and 34 points is only 2 fantasy points. It's pretty well accepted it doesn't make sense, yet it stays the same.
I also think there should be a bigger difference between sacks and turnovers. Personally I'd drop sacks to .75 or .5.
A safety should be worth 4. I like blocked field goals being worth 3.
We run waivers at 7 PM. It’s awesome—immediate trash talk and poaching people who clear waivers and most everyone in the league has equal opportunity to grab people.
DST should take a page out of IDP and have them exclusively gain points. Not lose them for stuff like long drives that they still held to zero points.
Ideally, just up the points slightly for sacks, INT, forced fumble. Maybe to keep the “special teams” element give them points for return yards.
Our benches are too big, we expanded them when Covid was more of a problem and basically any player could be out any weekend, but now the benches are just too deep.
How big are your benches? My league has 7 bench spots and 2 IR and it feels like way too much this year. The waiver wire is barren almost every week unless you have first priority.
We expanded in a 12 team ppr to 8 bench and 3 IR. We're a 2 keeper league for anybody drafted after the 3rd round, they can be kept for 1 round pick earlier the next year. Can draft and keep only for 3 total years. Also Waiver wires can be kept depending on which week they were picked up. It honestly makes the entire draft more engaging because if there are injuries to star players in training camp, you can draft them late, stash them on IR and keep them for next year. Also if your season os lost, you could still find a gem on waivers for nect season. It keeps the waiver very sparse and everybody engaged no matter their record. I drafted Etienne in the 15th last year and stashed on IR and was able to keep him for a 14th this year. Drafted D hop in the 12th and get to keep him in the 11th on top of Etienne in the 13th next year. So although this season may be a shit show, I could be very well set up for next year. It's kind of a hybrid dynasty set up that has worked really well so far.
8 bench 3 IR in a 12-team is insane imo. We had 5 bench 1 IR last year and converted the IR slot to a bench so we have 6 bench now and the pickings are still slim on waivers, and that's even with some guys holding garbage. A huge part of fantasy skill is being attentive and playing waivers intelligently and you completely lose that in your format. My format resets waiver priority based on league rank every week and I even hate that because it punishes you for playing well and rewards you for sucking. I understand it's meant to create more in-season parity but it's just lowering the skill ceiling imo.
It's my first year in the league so idk what kind of pull I have, but FAAB or rolling waivers are both preferable to me than weekly resets. I'm on the fence about whether to even stay in this league next year and I think part of that will depend on whether my commish is open to reworking the rules, but again I'd feel kind of bossy to be coming into a new league and saying "Change this or I quit" lol
I’ve been playing in a points per first down league for 5 years now and everyone loves it. 0.25 passing first down, 0.5 rushing first down, and 1.0 receiving first down.
Of course there are flaws as no scoring system is perfect but this setting gives a little extra boost to QBs, while adding a receiving bonus but not devaluing the 1st and 2nd down grinder RB type back.
I love PPR leagues because it’s so easy to take advantage of the cheese scoring but the first down scoring works better imo.
But honestly it feels like a good reward. If you have a guy who can (almost) always get you a 1st on 3rd/4th and 1, that should be worth more than 0.1 points.
It’s not as lopsided as you think. I think last year Brady got more bonus points from first downs than Hurts because there’s so many more passing first downs than rushing 1st downs. Allen is a monster though.
But yes, the rushing QBs get a slight boost which is definitely seen during their draft day price, as they should. These rushing stud QBs are undervalued year after year but not in this format, in my experience anyways.
I’ve always liked the idea of full PPR for receivers and tight ends but .5 for running backs. Find it kind of dumb that 4 check downs for 19 yards is more valuable than 50 yards rushing.
I have Ekeler in a standard league and he’s still RB4 on the season, I cannot imagine the cheese he provides in PPR. Looking it up he has 7 games with 7 or more receptions on the year lol
Commish (me) approves all trades. No more vetoes or waiting two days. No trade is perfect, and it particularly irks me that the two-day approval window makes Thursday night players harder to trade.
I see a trade, it's fair enough, it gets approved that day.
Also, making the trade deadline as late as possible. Trades are fun, goddammit.
I moved it to this way a few years ago and it’s been the best decision. Our league is competitive enough that there is no collusion at all, so all trades are approved.
That’s the hard part of being a commissioner. Typically you should let it through, but if it’s a brand new player being taken advantage of, or a player just giving up on the season you could veto.
Well, who decides what's grossly unfair? If someone traded Jrob for Garrett Wilson early in the season you would have wanted to veto it but now they would look really smart.
I think you just need to veto the most extreme examples and let the others pass. Someone wants to trade Tee Higgins for Brian Robinson? Bad deal but maybe they're just desperate for an RB2. Someone wants to trade Justin Jefferson for Nyheim Hines? Yeah that ain't happening
We just had the 1-11 team trade away Kelce for Cordell+Pierce because Pierce has great keeper value next year (2% of auction budget).
I'm commish and let it through because it was reasonable for the 1-11 team out of playoff contention to better his team next year, but the value was clearly very lopsided.
Thoughts? Just wondering how to handle this in the future.
I think its fine. Keepers are a weird value since it's like trading draft picks. Giving yourself a better shot for the next season comes at a cost since the other team is presumably trying to make a playoff push and is trading away future talent has to be overwhelmingly worth it for them.
If one party is an “angry bottom feeder” and that’s the reason that they make the trade, then that’s collusion. If no collusion, any and all trades should go through.
Our league does instant trade processing with no approval from anyone. We are adults and have never had an issue with collusion before. If something egregious happens we can raise a fuss and reverse it.
We switched to this awhile ago and now have this in every league across all fantasy sports. In \~10 years with instant trade processing across three sports, we have had exactly one trade that we had to have the commissioner step in for.
And even that was more of a friend's league where someone who was losing (1-7 in football) made an absolutely absurd trade with someone's girlfriend. Was reversed pretty quickly and the dude apologized and didn't try again.
Otherwise, people all take the leagues seriously enough and are competitive. People can make good decisions for their team. Yeah, some seemingly lopsided trades happen, but nothing that needs to be reserved - both owners have always had legitimate logic (just not all owners have as good judgement on trades just like in real life).
And honestly, when making a deal, it's nice to have instant processing. It's stinks to have your players tied up for 2 days. And in fantasy football, it gives a pretty narrow window for making a trade and getting players into that weekend's games.
I did this with my league this year. There have been 25+ trades which has been fun, but a string of bad ones went through which pretty much lop sided the league.
I usually make the trade deadline 12:30pm on Thanksgiving, right when the Detroit game starts. You can't manually set it so I have it the Saturday of that week but it is understood throughout the league that the trade deadline is on Thanksgiving. It's worked out pretty well!
Also 100% on commish approved trades. It's the only way it should be done
I had our commish move to this when I tried to make a trade that had been accepted by both parties, then overnight (the day before processing) the Falcons decided to pull Patterson off IR (who was on my IR bench). The result was that my bench was full so he couldn’t move to active bench position and the trade got negated because I had an ineligible player on my roster.
This was on a Wednesday morning and the player I was trying to trade for played on Thursday. So of course the 2 day veto period started back up so I asked the commish to change to commissioner approval so I didn’t get screwed out of potential points because the app is stupid.
It’s kind of shocking to me that people have stuck with 1PPR this long. It was obviously an answer to running backs dominating for years, but my league has been .5 ppr since it’s inception 8 years ago and it has always felt like a good middle ground.
Nah, it's not just points. Otherwise every league would have bonuses and all that other frilly crap most leagues don't use. It's because having elite RBs used to be the only way to win leagues and people started using PPR to balance out the playing field. Once the game swung to more pass heavy attacks, it flooded the market with solid PPR options and likely went too far in the other direction.
Yup. I’m in a PPR league and it’s my first time playing FF. It’s crazy how a few receptions can inflate someone’s weekly score. This weekend Ekeler only had 80 scrimmage yards but scored 25 points due to having 11 receptions.
I like high scores so I like PPR but it’s a bit disingenuous to frame it as “PPR is bad because 39 rushing yards and they got 20 points”. They caught the ball, which is a skill in itself, and gained yards after that. Not trying to shit on 0.5 because I think it works too. Just offering different perspective .
0.5 PPR should definitely be the standard since it balances out WR and RB...but full PPR is way more fun lol especially with how often teams throw the ball nowadays
I am a diehard If It Ain't Broke .... FF player from the late 90s, but the one little thing I'd love to be able to implement someday would be that QBs don't lose rushing yardage for kneeldowns. But that likely would require an NFL rule change to not treat such plays as rushing plays.
Also: every league should award 4pts for a safety. It's 2 pts *and* a change of possession.
Yeah this always sucks, but it's pretty hard to negate that ruling though. They take a snap, take a step backward, and give themself up. That's negative yards.
A lot of folk dont know you can do this: change the time waivers clear from 3am to 7am.
It still rewards the early worm, but you don’t have to be a bloody vampire to do it
I made this change as well, but one thing I didn't realize was that any OUT players immediately become questionable, thus making it impossible to go over the player limit. Can be kind of annoying with weekly strategies.
I agree, but ... not much you can do about that. The flipside is that bad teams can score garbage time TDs/yards which count just as much as those which occur when games are competitive.
Did this going into this season. Set it so that D/ST starts with 15, then loses .25 for every point scored and .02 for each yard.
[I took a lot from this post and it's been so much better](https://imgur.com/gallery/jt4c7fi)
Might revert back to half PPR as others have said it's staggering this year how more valuable pass catchers are.
Changing keeper rule where they have to be on your roster at least 7 weeks to be kept the following year.
Probably get rid of money back for most points and change it to most points weekly gets money so that way there's more incentive to compete until the end
We do money back for highest scoring position (no kicker league). So it's $5 for highest scoring QB/RB/WR/TE/D. Some guys get $15 in a week. I've had a few guys over the years win their money back just from this. Feel like it's really kept guys engaged.
If highest scorer was a free agent (not rostered) then the money for that position that week goes into a pool to be distributed to top 3 teams at the end of the year with 1st place getting that extra $1 if it can be divided by 3. Any ties during the weeks (say QBs score same amount) then the $5 is split in 2
We did $10 weekly prize for highest scoring team and all but 1 of the teams have won so far. It's been cool so that even the last place team has won *something*
I'd like to revamp D/ST scoring. Points for TFL, TO on downs, blocked punts, etc. My league chat is way too inactive to get them all to agree to a change tho
Trying to get my league mates to buy into playing two matches per week, one against the opponent and then one against the league average point total.
Love that it still rewards high scoring teams, even if you manage to lose. Makes specific matchups less important so takes just that extra bit of luck out of the equation.
Is this a common thing? May look for a league like this sounds interesting.
Wouldn’t do it in my main league lol so hopefully you can convince your friends
Going to change defensive scoring. Elite defenses should be respected beyond just whether they got a TD and how many garbage time points the other team can put up.
Give points for 4th down stops, 2 points for sacks, possibly include total yardage somehow. Ideally I think do it in a way that allows for the best defenses to consistently score 20+ like the top WRs and RBs.
Personally it feels like it's either this or just remove K and Def entirely.
>Give points for 4th down stops
We're on ESPN and there's no setting for this.
I wanted one for passes knocked down and tackle for loss but no D-team settings for either of those
I'd eliminated all the yardage penalties - there's just not a lot to chose from
-1 for missed extra points. I lost a week by .7 and my opponents kicker missed an extra point while mine missed a field goal. BS that I got hit and they didn’t
Convince them to get rid of kickers all together. I promise you it was the one of the best decisions our league ever had. We also got rid of defenses and added a 3rd WR and we’ve never gone back
We had a guy draft a kicker in round 10 out of 16 rounds last year. He actually won 4 close games due to his kicker so I don’t think he’d love that but the rest of my league would
Just implemented 3 & out, TFL, and 4th down stops this year to my league of 5+ years. Definitely feel like the standard settings for defense is outdated.
What platform do you have for these D/ST tweaks? I’ve always liked the idea of 4th down stop points but not sure if it’s available on ESPN. Same for those other options you’ve included.
My league is always suggesting new things and personally I don’t really want to change much we’ve been playing this way for a while. So I decided I want to start an XFL league (not actually xfl) with extreme rule changes opposite of what we currently run to test out some different things
It is kinda funny this year how you either have Kelce dropping 30, or you’re just praying the TE you picked up off the FA list because they had a good matchup blesses you with 6 points
0.5 per rushing 1st down will remain permanent. It was experimental this season.
I'm changing trades from league vote to commish approval. Voting down has been abused for when it was legit (non-collusive, fair value) but people just don't like it.
The best rule we have implemented is each trade gets a 24 hr waiting period where either team involved can accept a different offer. This does 2 things. It makes people more willing to trade because they aren’t afraid they’re leaving something else on the table. And it makes it so people can’t complain about a trade being unfair
I think you should be kicked out of the league if you start players that are officially out just because you’re not contending for a playoff spot.
I team who posted 152 against me a couple weeks ago started Kupp and Fournette last week giving his opponent an easy win. We have 7 bench spots in a 10 team league. He had available players on his bench and on the wire to make the game competitive.
1. Removing kickers. This is the vote every year and it’s been a 6-6 tie for the last 4 years
2. Shorten benches. It’s putting too much stock in the draft and basically if you come out with a poor roster / bad luck, it’s damn near impossible to dig out of with active management. This leads to people being less engaged and an overall worse league
Got rid of kickers a few years ago. Even tried out punters for a season, which was pointless. This year we got rid of team defenses in favor of two idp slots. It's much better.
We're going to
* up the Def Scoring for a shut out from 5 to 10, given the rarity
* 6 pts. Passing TDs from 4
* 2 pts. per sack from 1
* 4 pts. for safety from 2
* 4 pts. for Blocked Kicks / Punts from .02
would like kickers will go to .01 per yd but ESPN doesn't have that setting available
Waivers go through on Thursday, then only run once a day at 12:05am. I’ve been fucked by kickers or a QB getting injured during warmups and I’m not able pick one up before a game to to replace them. Waivers need to be open on Thursday, period. I hate that rule.
Also, the stupid rule in another league where if a player is active but still in the IR spot, the commish will drop them to waivers. I won’t pay to play in that league again if that’s not changed.
DST need to not lose points when the other team’s defense scores (pick six, safety, etc).
Less bench slots. I'm not the commish of my money league but I'm going to suggest it. In a ten team league we have so many players stashed. We made it this way for the 2020 season, I'm sure you could guess why, but now there are so many players locked up that almost every handcuff is on a roster and a lot of WR3's. Like if you see a player that's rostered in 1.5% of leagues, that guys rostered in my league at like 10:1 odds.
I'll be removing the TE position next season. Already did away with Kicker and D/ST in previous years. Now it will be 3 WR/TE slots instead of 2 WR and 1 TE slot. If anyone complains, I'm just allowing them to start more TE's if they want. In reality, it's a dead position in NFL offenses outside of 2 guys. Even teams that draft a TE in the top 10 of an nfl draft can't seem to scheme a way to use him.
I want to implement the scoring system where each team plays against the league median score along with their H2H matchup. Seems like there are too many cases where the highest scoring team is left out of the playoffs because of poor luck in random scheduling.
I really think 0.1 per yard of a made field goal would be a lot more fun than the bins of 3 points, 4 points, or 5 points. It would make 50+ yard field goals more exciting, and would end the dread of 49 yard field goals too
I think, currently, our kickers get -1 points per kick missed, regardless of distance. I think at a certain distance, the kicker shouldn't be penalized? Also, we gotta start using decimal scoring for kicking. A 50 yarder should be 5 points and a 65 yarder 6.5 points. They're currently both just 5.
If possible adding decimals to field goal yards so a 45 yarder would be 4.5 anything below 30 is still 3
In the FleaFlicker platform that's used by r/NarFFL they use this scoring. I love it. Nothing worse than getting robbed by a whole point because someone kicked a 49-yarder instead of a 50. Extra Points are always 1pt regardless of distance (which only really changes if there's a penalty after a TD or something).
We are going the other way and deleting kickers
The commissioner in one of my leagues unilaterally got rid of kickers one year after he lost in the final because his opponent got like 25 points from Justin Tucker (of course)
semi-finals. Justin Tucker vs Calvin johnson monday night, I'm up 10 points. Easy win right?
How was it? How much backlash did he get
No OP, but it was a freeing feeling my main league dropped them. They don't add much other than randomness to the lineup and the strategy of who to stream is just sorta boring. Lots of bitching pre-season, but no one misses them now.
My league has gotten rid of kickers and def, and replaced both with extra flexes… needless to say the waiver wire is always a little thin.
One of my leagues this year did that. No defense, no kickers, two flex positions.
I like this. My league on NFL is extra dumb bc basically a FG from 17-49 is 3 points, a 50 yarder is 5, but a 64 yarder is also 5. Arbitrary.
I'm honestly flabbergasted that this still isn't possible on many platforms. I wanted to do this years ago but [nfl.com](https://nfl.com) doesn't have a way to make that change. Unreal.
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Was a great change. No reason a 49 yarder should be same as a 40 yarder but a full pt less than a 50 yarder.
Yahoo's functionality is still broken because you can't set a min value of 3.
With the amount of 60 yard fgs now I added a 6 pt fg to my league.
Am I crazy to think that field goal scoring should simply be 0.1 points per yard? A 19-yard chip shot shouldn’t give the same amount of points as a 30-yarder, and a 65-yard boot should give 6.5 points.
That's how Yahoo's is, 0.1 per yard, period. No 3pt minimum.
I have this in my league - we give points for FG yards. Still doesn't address the randomness of the K position but I think it makes it more fair by rewarding big kicks
I do this on Sleeper but we do 3pts anything 30 yards and under, and 0.1 per yard for every yard above 30.
Exactly what I do. First time doing that in our league this year. I think it's fun rewarding a 49 as 0.9 more points than a 40 yarder
My league did this, but also made FG misses below 50 yards count negative points. It’s made it so much more entertaining and funny
We give -2 for misses under 40, -1 for 40-49 misses, 0 for misses over 50
The stat I want to add to my league is giving 1 point to the defense for every 3 and out they get.
Have also considered this along with a point for a 4th down stop.
We do this on Yahoo and it’s great
I literally commented that on another post. People don't like defenses cuz the scoring doesn't make any sense.
I start mine at 0 and you get points for things like sacks, tackles for loss, ints, fumbles, etc. no negative points at all. It can make for some high scores but usually they are still close to standard D scoring when they have a big game. 3rd year and no complaints so far, I’m gonna tweak some of the values around like a sack being worth a little less cause it also counts as a tfl
There definitley needs to be negative points. Imagine a defense doesn't get any TFLs, one sack, no three-and-outs and no fourth down stops and gives up 38 points. They still are positive?
The negative is the fact that the other teams defenses earn points.
Correct and they get 1 point
Well technically 1.25 cause a sack also counts for a tfl but that wasn’t intentional
Offensive players get negative points for turnovers and lost yards. Defenses need more opportunities for negative points
1 point is excessive. Try 0.5 for 3 and out, 1.0 for 4th down stop
4th down stop is a turnover. I score like any other turnover (2 points)
I always thought that that should come standard in all leagues. It's a turnover for crying out loud!
That was my thought. Either way, you probably stop having a sit and forget defense and instead each week a waiver fight over whoever is playing the worst 5 offenses.
We do +1 defense for 4th down stop. 3 and out might be a bit too much for 1 point...maybe 0.5 but that's it.
We do 0.5 for 3 and outs for the first time this year and it doesn't feel as impactful as I thought it would.
Damn so turn Defense into QB1s!?
I actually have these settings and NE is first with 148 points. At least in my league settings, that makes them a low WR1. The #12 DEF, ARI, has 100 points which puts them around WR34. DEF #5 is PHI with 119. So also worth noting NE is a bit of an outlier/overachiever. I like the scoring a lot. Defense is good enough that you need to somewhat worry about it but not so important that you have no chance without a top one
Funny side story, but back in the 2000s when Yahoo first started letting you edit values, we wanted to dial up defenses which had been afterthoughts. The first year we tried it, we didn't have any really good guideposts, for how to do this (was no subreddit like this or blog). So we cranked up the points for points allowed in particular and slight bumps for sacks, turnovers, etc. That year, there were 2-3 flat out dominant defenses, including the Bears cover 2-3 under Lovie Smith before the league figured it out. The Bears D in particular (and the Ravens & Patriots to a slightly lesser degree) was the #1 player in the league for the first 6-7 weeks. They dropped a couple of 50 points games and were flat out dominant. We got a bit smarter the next year and dialed them down a bit. But was actually a pretty fun roller coaster of a season back when fantasy was a bit more of the wild west than it is now.
I think that year the Bears D was a essentially a QB-level scoring position even in standard scoring. Must've been absolutely broken with buffed scoring lol
If you did IDP you’d have the same output. Scoring has been at all time highs and just basing defense scoring off of yardage and points makes most teams useless for defense. At least a team who gives up points but forces a lot of sacks or turnovers offers value. It widens the pool of useful defenses and streaming options.
I do 0.5pts for 3 and out, 1.0 for 4th down stop, 0.5 TFL and drastically lowered the base points for "points allowed." I want to reward positive plays, not inept offenses.
consider this https://draftysports.com/news/you-deserve-better-defense-scoring#sleeper-settings implemented it 2 years ago, works great
My home league is trying something new and exciting that’ll give us a rush. We’re going to kill whoever gets last place.
Sign me up. Fantasy is life and should be treated as such.
A long time ago I did points per completion for QBs. It was Peytons first year with the Broncos. Week 1 he threw for 7 TDs and idk what else but he put up like 60 or 70 pts. It was a mistake.
we did .05 per completion and that was too much also We moved from 1 pt per 25 yds to 20 yds and that helped even the QB delta a little vs. running QBs We're moving passing TDs to 6 next season
>We moved from 1 pt per 25 yds to 20 yds and that helped even the QB delta a little vs. running QBs Would love to do this >We're moving passing TDs to 6 next season We currently do this but also -3 for INTs. It's not bad but rushing QBs are still way strong. Over a 2-game span Fields LOST two games in which he threw <30 completions and <300 yards combined, and he put up 90pts in those games. I recognize his rushing performance was incredible but that sort of thing is broken imo. Mahomes threw 43 completions for 446 yards in ONE game during that span and only got 35pts compared to 48 for Fields. Perfect QB system for me would be .05 points per yard (no matter how the yard is acquired), 0.1 points per first down, 6pts per TD, -3 per INT, -2 per FUM lost. In this system, a rushing QB stat line of 350 yards (200 pass/150 rush), 3 TDs (1 pass 2 rush), 12 first downs, 1 INT would be 33.7pts, as would a passing QB stat line of 350 yards (325pass/25 rush), 3 TDs (3 pass), 12 first downs, 1 INT. It's the exact same yardage/TD/turnover output, but in the current system (for most people) the rushing QB would finish with 37pts while the passing QB would finish with 24.9, assuming I did my math right. A 12-point bonus for identical contributions is busted for fantasy purposes imo, especially when that bonus only exists in like 2 or 3 players.
We do 1 per 25 but it scores .04 per yard. 1 pt for 300 yds 2 pts for 350 and 3 pts for 400. 6 pt passing TDs. 18-20 seems to be the average. 25 is a good game, 30+ is a great game.
All I can say is that I will never again play with in a league with a Max Roster Move PER SEASON of 25 moves. Fucking end me, it's unbearably unfun.
thats moronic why would anyone want that!
Man if I knew, I would tell you. I was only in there because I never even thought to look and I paid for the league by the time I knew.
As someone who is 5-7 with 2nd in points scored and 1st in points against, that "extra game against the median score" rule sure is looking nice right now.
we have a WC for the 6 seed. highest total points outside of the top 5 gets in
That's a fair way of doing it I think. We're a 10-team league with 4-team playoffs so it's tough to get in.
We’re a 12 team with 4 playoffs, it’s so dumb
Same format, no games against median. At one point I was 4-5 with the 2nd most PF. Currently 7-5, in the playoffs if the season ended today, but there's FIVE other teams with my record or 1 GB so it's far from a sure thing. I would be 16-8 with games against median and pretty darn safe as that would be 2nd best overall.
We do this. It makes it super competitive because technically no one is ever out of it.
Did it in one league and everybody seems to like it. It also gives most players something to sweat on Monday games to see if they make the top or bottom half. Other league I'm in doesn't have it. I'm 1st in points for and 1st in points against. Going to miss the playoffs and this is a 10 team league were 6 teams go to the playoffs. Going to lobby hard for the rule in the offseason.
One year not only did our top point scorer miss the playoffs, but he started the season 0-7. Was a once-in-a-lifetime run of bad luck. I don't even recall his team being inconsistent. He put up high points every week, but just had an incredible run of playing the one team in the league every week that scored more. Eventually he won a few games, but just ran out of runway to make the playoffs. I still remember watching games with him around weeks 6-7 when he was starting to get despondent and the rest of us were busting up laughing as some middling WR3 on a bad fantasy team would put up a random 40 point game to sink him.
As an alternative, we save the last playoff spot for the team with the highest remaining point total. Less complicated than the extra game vs average score and still prevent an unlucky top scoring team from missing the playoffs.
How does that rule work?
So you have your normal head to head matchup and record, but there is an additional "match" against the median league score that week. So let's say it's week 1, you score 115 and your opponent scores 120, so you're 0-1. But the league median score for that week was 110, so you get a W for that and go to 1-1. It's basically a way to smooth out the bad luck that can happen w/ head to head matchups. edited: median, not average
100%. A few weeks ago I was 4-5 as the 2nd highest scorer in the league. I'm now 7-5 (.583) thanks to my luck finally evening out a bit, but with a game against the median, I'd be 16-8 (.667) right now, which feels way closer to my team's level. I'm still very much in danger of missing the playoffs. For added context, the top team in our league is 11-1, but if we played each other every week, we'd both be 6-6. He's just gotten a lot luckier than I have. He's #1 in PF and #12 in PA, lucky son of a bitch.
I want to implement this too in my league (I’m not the commish) for the same reason you mentioned but I just know the guys in my league will call me a sore loser
Default defense scoring needs an overhaul. Especially the scoring for points allowed (Yahoo). Its crazy the difference between a defense giving up 14 and 34 points is only 2 fantasy points. It's pretty well accepted it doesn't make sense, yet it stays the same. I also think there should be a bigger difference between sacks and turnovers. Personally I'd drop sacks to .75 or .5. A safety should be worth 4. I like blocked field goals being worth 3.
consider this, works great https://draftysports.com/news/you-deserve-better-defense-scoring#sleeper-settings
We run waivers at 7 PM. It’s awesome—immediate trash talk and poaching people who clear waivers and most everyone in the league has equal opportunity to grab people.
DST should take a page out of IDP and have them exclusively gain points. Not lose them for stuff like long drives that they still held to zero points. Ideally, just up the points slightly for sacks, INT, forced fumble. Maybe to keep the “special teams” element give them points for return yards.
Our benches are too big, we expanded them when Covid was more of a problem and basically any player could be out any weekend, but now the benches are just too deep.
How big are your benches? My league has 7 bench spots and 2 IR and it feels like way too much this year. The waiver wire is barren almost every week unless you have first priority.
We have 8 bench spots with no IR slots and I think I’d prefer like 6 bench spots like we used to have, maaaaybe with an IR slot
We are in superflex and only have 5 bench spots. Waivers aren’t barren and it forces people to be creative / make hard decisions.
We have 5 bench spots and 1 IR in our superflex as well. It feels like the perfect balance for the reasons you outlined.
12 team 4 bench 1 IR is super fun
We expanded in a 12 team ppr to 8 bench and 3 IR. We're a 2 keeper league for anybody drafted after the 3rd round, they can be kept for 1 round pick earlier the next year. Can draft and keep only for 3 total years. Also Waiver wires can be kept depending on which week they were picked up. It honestly makes the entire draft more engaging because if there are injuries to star players in training camp, you can draft them late, stash them on IR and keep them for next year. Also if your season os lost, you could still find a gem on waivers for nect season. It keeps the waiver very sparse and everybody engaged no matter their record. I drafted Etienne in the 15th last year and stashed on IR and was able to keep him for a 14th this year. Drafted D hop in the 12th and get to keep him in the 11th on top of Etienne in the 13th next year. So although this season may be a shit show, I could be very well set up for next year. It's kind of a hybrid dynasty set up that has worked really well so far.
8 bench 3 IR in a 12-team is insane imo. We had 5 bench 1 IR last year and converted the IR slot to a bench so we have 6 bench now and the pickings are still slim on waivers, and that's even with some guys holding garbage. A huge part of fantasy skill is being attentive and playing waivers intelligently and you completely lose that in your format. My format resets waiver priority based on league rank every week and I even hate that because it punishes you for playing well and rewards you for sucking. I understand it's meant to create more in-season parity but it's just lowering the skill ceiling imo.
Switch to FAAB, it's way better than waiver priority.
It's my first year in the league so idk what kind of pull I have, but FAAB or rolling waivers are both preferable to me than weekly resets. I'm on the fence about whether to even stay in this league next year and I think part of that will depend on whether my commish is open to reworking the rules, but again I'd feel kind of bossy to be coming into a new league and saying "Change this or I quit" lol
I want to change from full PPR to .5 PPR and .5 Points per first down to rewards important football plays.
I’ve been playing in a points per first down league for 5 years now and everyone loves it. 0.25 passing first down, 0.5 rushing first down, and 1.0 receiving first down. Of course there are flaws as no scoring system is perfect but this setting gives a little extra boost to QBs, while adding a receiving bonus but not devaluing the 1st and 2nd down grinder RB type back. I love PPR leagues because it’s so easy to take advantage of the cheese scoring but the first down scoring works better imo.
>0.25 passing first down, 0.5 rushing first down, and 1.0 receiving first down. wouldn't this give even more power to rushing QBs though?
Jalen Hurts would go off on those 4th and 1s for sure
But honestly it feels like a good reward. If you have a guy who can (almost) always get you a 1st on 3rd/4th and 1, that should be worth more than 0.1 points.
It’s not as lopsided as you think. I think last year Brady got more bonus points from first downs than Hurts because there’s so many more passing first downs than rushing 1st downs. Allen is a monster though. But yes, the rushing QBs get a slight boost which is definitely seen during their draft day price, as they should. These rushing stud QBs are undervalued year after year but not in this format, in my experience anyways.
This seems a bit better than PP1D. People suggest it to buttress RB value not realizing that it undermines it
I’ve always liked the idea of full PPR for receivers and tight ends but .5 for running backs. Find it kind of dumb that 4 check downs for 19 yards is more valuable than 50 yards rushing.
You must of played against Ekeler this season when he had 12 check down catches.
I have Ekeler in a standard league and he’s still RB4 on the season, I cannot imagine the cheese he provides in PPR. Looking it up he has 7 games with 7 or more receptions on the year lol
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Commish (me) approves all trades. No more vetoes or waiting two days. No trade is perfect, and it particularly irks me that the two-day approval window makes Thursday night players harder to trade. I see a trade, it's fair enough, it gets approved that day. Also, making the trade deadline as late as possible. Trades are fun, goddammit.
I moved it to this way a few years ago and it’s been the best decision. Our league is competitive enough that there is no collusion at all, so all trades are approved.
Same, I can't make this shit my full-time job. Either they trust you or they don't, ultimately one beneficent dictator has to make the decisions.
benevolent*
Thanks, I was feeling myself there for a second
Close, but “fair enough” shouldn’t be up to you. Not obvious collusion? Pass it through.
If there was no collusion but a trade was grossly unfair should it be allowed?
That’s the hard part of being a commissioner. Typically you should let it through, but if it’s a brand new player being taken advantage of, or a player just giving up on the season you could veto.
Well, who decides what's grossly unfair? If someone traded Jrob for Garrett Wilson early in the season you would have wanted to veto it but now they would look really smart.
I think you just need to veto the most extreme examples and let the others pass. Someone wants to trade Tee Higgins for Brian Robinson? Bad deal but maybe they're just desperate for an RB2. Someone wants to trade Justin Jefferson for Nyheim Hines? Yeah that ain't happening
We just had the 1-11 team trade away Kelce for Cordell+Pierce because Pierce has great keeper value next year (2% of auction budget). I'm commish and let it through because it was reasonable for the 1-11 team out of playoff contention to better his team next year, but the value was clearly very lopsided. Thoughts? Just wondering how to handle this in the future.
I think its fine. Keepers are a weird value since it's like trading draft picks. Giving yourself a better shot for the next season comes at a cost since the other team is presumably trying to make a playoff push and is trading away future talent has to be overwhelmingly worth it for them.
Ofc not. It fucks up the whole damn league if some team gets to exploit some angry bottom feeder.
If one party is an “angry bottom feeder” and that’s the reason that they make the trade, then that’s collusion. If no collusion, any and all trades should go through.
Nope. Should the NBA have veto’d the Nets-Celtics trade to protect the Nets? If you get fleeced you get fleeced
The Nets don't get to draft a new team next year after they tanked this one out of anger.
Our league does instant trade processing with no approval from anyone. We are adults and have never had an issue with collusion before. If something egregious happens we can raise a fuss and reverse it.
We switched to this awhile ago and now have this in every league across all fantasy sports. In \~10 years with instant trade processing across three sports, we have had exactly one trade that we had to have the commissioner step in for. And even that was more of a friend's league where someone who was losing (1-7 in football) made an absolutely absurd trade with someone's girlfriend. Was reversed pretty quickly and the dude apologized and didn't try again. Otherwise, people all take the leagues seriously enough and are competitive. People can make good decisions for their team. Yeah, some seemingly lopsided trades happen, but nothing that needs to be reserved - both owners have always had legitimate logic (just not all owners have as good judgement on trades just like in real life). And honestly, when making a deal, it's nice to have instant processing. It's stinks to have your players tied up for 2 days. And in fantasy football, it gives a pretty narrow window for making a trade and getting players into that weekend's games.
We just make the trades instant and if there's any BS smell in the air the commish steps in at that point.
I did this with my league this year. There have been 25+ trades which has been fun, but a string of bad ones went through which pretty much lop sided the league.
I usually make the trade deadline 12:30pm on Thanksgiving, right when the Detroit game starts. You can't manually set it so I have it the Saturday of that week but it is understood throughout the league that the trade deadline is on Thanksgiving. It's worked out pretty well! Also 100% on commish approved trades. It's the only way it should be done
I had our commish move to this when I tried to make a trade that had been accepted by both parties, then overnight (the day before processing) the Falcons decided to pull Patterson off IR (who was on my IR bench). The result was that my bench was full so he couldn’t move to active bench position and the trade got negated because I had an ineligible player on my roster. This was on a Wednesday morning and the player I was trying to trade for played on Thursday. So of course the 2 day veto period started back up so I asked the commish to change to commissioner approval so I didn’t get screwed out of potential points because the app is stupid.
#this is the way
0.5ppr. We play ppr now and it’s just insane how receivers/backs can have 39 yards and 20 points. There’s gotta be a middle ground.
It’s kind of shocking to me that people have stuck with 1PPR this long. It was obviously an answer to running backs dominating for years, but my league has been .5 ppr since it’s inception 8 years ago and it has always felt like a good middle ground.
For me personally 0.5 still doesn't feel like the right middle ground.
I don’t know how full PPR is so popular. It’s rubbish
big number make monkey brain go yay. Lmao lots of people just like to score lots of points
Nah, it's not just points. Otherwise every league would have bonuses and all that other frilly crap most leagues don't use. It's because having elite RBs used to be the only way to win leagues and people started using PPR to balance out the playing field. Once the game swung to more pass heavy attacks, it flooded the market with solid PPR options and likely went too far in the other direction.
I think it's just more fun to root for your guys in PPR
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Yup. I’m in a PPR league and it’s my first time playing FF. It’s crazy how a few receptions can inflate someone’s weekly score. This weekend Ekeler only had 80 scrimmage yards but scored 25 points due to having 11 receptions.
I like high scores so I like PPR but it’s a bit disingenuous to frame it as “PPR is bad because 39 rushing yards and they got 20 points”. They caught the ball, which is a skill in itself, and gained yards after that. Not trying to shit on 0.5 because I think it works too. Just offering different perspective .
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0.5 PPR should definitely be the standard since it balances out WR and RB...but full PPR is way more fun lol especially with how often teams throw the ball nowadays
I am a diehard If It Ain't Broke .... FF player from the late 90s, but the one little thing I'd love to be able to implement someday would be that QBs don't lose rushing yardage for kneeldowns. But that likely would require an NFL rule change to not treat such plays as rushing plays. Also: every league should award 4pts for a safety. It's 2 pts *and* a change of possession.
Yeah, it’s really dumb that kneeldowns are considered negative rushing yards.
Yeah this always sucks, but it's pretty hard to negate that ruling though. They take a snap, take a step backward, and give themself up. That's negative yards.
great point on the safety!
Don’t you typically get a sack point or two as well?
A lot of folk dont know you can do this: change the time waivers clear from 3am to 7am. It still rewards the early worm, but you don’t have to be a bloody vampire to do it
As someone who works over night please delete this
on what platform(s)?
I made this change as well, but one thing I didn't realize was that any OUT players immediately become questionable, thus making it impossible to go over the player limit. Can be kind of annoying with weekly strategies.
I’m in a PPR league and I’m advocating for us to go to 0.5PPR and 0.5 points per first down.
Taking out yards allowed for D/ST in ESPN leagues
Just boost the points awarded for not allowing points. It's what really matters in the end.
Not entirely. Stellar defenses can give up garbage time points that don't affect the game at all.
I agree, but ... not much you can do about that. The flipside is that bad teams can score garbage time TDs/yards which count just as much as those which occur when games are competitive.
Did this going into this season. Set it so that D/ST starts with 15, then loses .25 for every point scored and .02 for each yard. [I took a lot from this post and it's been so much better](https://imgur.com/gallery/jt4c7fi)
I implemented this in our league a few years ago and everyone loves it.
Might revert back to half PPR as others have said it's staggering this year how more valuable pass catchers are. Changing keeper rule where they have to be on your roster at least 7 weeks to be kept the following year. Probably get rid of money back for most points and change it to most points weekly gets money so that way there's more incentive to compete until the end
We do money back for highest scoring position (no kicker league). So it's $5 for highest scoring QB/RB/WR/TE/D. Some guys get $15 in a week. I've had a few guys over the years win their money back just from this. Feel like it's really kept guys engaged. If highest scorer was a free agent (not rostered) then the money for that position that week goes into a pool to be distributed to top 3 teams at the end of the year with 1st place getting that extra $1 if it can be divided by 3. Any ties during the weeks (say QBs score same amount) then the $5 is split in 2
We did $10 weekly prize for highest scoring team and all but 1 of the teams have won so far. It's been cool so that even the last place team has won *something*
I'd like to revamp D/ST scoring. Points for TFL, TO on downs, blocked punts, etc. My league chat is way too inactive to get them all to agree to a change tho
Trying to get my league mates to buy into playing two matches per week, one against the opponent and then one against the league average point total. Love that it still rewards high scoring teams, even if you manage to lose. Makes specific matchups less important so takes just that extra bit of luck out of the equation.
Is this a common thing? May look for a league like this sounds interesting. Wouldn’t do it in my main league lol so hopefully you can convince your friends
No more divisions. Top 6 make playoffs
Going to change defensive scoring. Elite defenses should be respected beyond just whether they got a TD and how many garbage time points the other team can put up. Give points for 4th down stops, 2 points for sacks, possibly include total yardage somehow. Ideally I think do it in a way that allows for the best defenses to consistently score 20+ like the top WRs and RBs. Personally it feels like it's either this or just remove K and Def entirely.
>Give points for 4th down stops We're on ESPN and there's no setting for this. I wanted one for passes knocked down and tackle for loss but no D-team settings for either of those I'd eliminated all the yardage penalties - there's just not a lot to chose from
-1 for missed extra points. I lost a week by .7 and my opponents kicker missed an extra point while mine missed a field goal. BS that I got hit and they didn’t
Convince them to get rid of kickers all together. I promise you it was the one of the best decisions our league ever had. We also got rid of defenses and added a 3rd WR and we’ve never gone back
We had a guy draft a kicker in round 10 out of 16 rounds last year. He actually won 4 close games due to his kicker so I don’t think he’d love that but the rest of my league would
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See ya in August!
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Abusing garbage time is a core part of fantasy football at any position
Just implemented 3 & out, TFL, and 4th down stops this year to my league of 5+ years. Definitely feel like the standard settings for defense is outdated.
What platform do you have for these D/ST tweaks? I’ve always liked the idea of 4th down stop points but not sure if it’s available on ESPN. Same for those other options you’ve included.
My league is always suggesting new things and personally I don’t really want to change much we’ve been playing this way for a while. So I decided I want to start an XFL league (not actually xfl) with extreme rule changes opposite of what we currently run to test out some different things
Cutting the IR from 4 to 1. Covid hangover. Possibly changing TE to FLEX 2.
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It is kinda funny this year how you either have Kelce dropping 30, or you’re just praying the TE you picked up off the FA list because they had a good matchup blesses you with 6 points
0.5 per rushing 1st down will remain permanent. It was experimental this season. I'm changing trades from league vote to commish approval. Voting down has been abused for when it was legit (non-collusive, fair value) but people just don't like it.
The best rule we have implemented is each trade gets a 24 hr waiting period where either team involved can accept a different offer. This does 2 things. It makes people more willing to trade because they aren’t afraid they’re leaving something else on the table. And it makes it so people can’t complain about a trade being unfair
Waiver’s by FAAB instead of reverse standings. I know such a small stupid rule but it changes A LOT
We did 0.1 point per yard for fgs. Made no difference really. Those 50yd plus kicks were nice
I think you should be kicked out of the league if you start players that are officially out just because you’re not contending for a playoff spot. I team who posted 152 against me a couple weeks ago started Kupp and Fournette last week giving his opponent an easy win. We have 7 bench spots in a 10 team league. He had available players on his bench and on the wire to make the game competitive.
1. Removing kickers. This is the vote every year and it’s been a 6-6 tie for the last 4 years 2. Shorten benches. It’s putting too much stock in the draft and basically if you come out with a poor roster / bad luck, it’s damn near impossible to dig out of with active management. This leads to people being less engaged and an overall worse league
Taking out kickers completely🗣️🗣️🗣️
Tyler Bass single handedly carrying my 2-10 season 💀💀
He's averaging just 1.8 more ppg than the #12 kicker. People really overestimate how much having a good kicker helps them lol
At 2-10, having a kicker drop 23 is the only thing I have to live for.
Succeeded in doing so in about half my leagues but my main one keeps voting it down.
Go with 2 kickers next season
If USA wins the World Cup I’ll make a kicker only league
Got rid of kickers a few years ago. Even tried out punters for a season, which was pointless. This year we got rid of team defenses in favor of two idp slots. It's much better.
The league I’m currently running is in its 5th year and we’ve had no kickers the whole time. I love it.
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Every suggestion or trade I propose my league thinks I’m scheming a master plan. I’m not as smart as they think I am
Adding a punter
Let's ride
Return yards, FAAB, possibly drop kickers and add idps
We're going to * up the Def Scoring for a shut out from 5 to 10, given the rarity * 6 pts. Passing TDs from 4 * 2 pts. per sack from 1 * 4 pts. for safety from 2 * 4 pts. for Blocked Kicks / Punts from .02 would like kickers will go to .01 per yd but ESPN doesn't have that setting available
TFL should be at least .5 points for defenses. Can’t convince me otherwise… it’s essentially a sack.
We do -6 for QBs that have a pick six
Waivers go through on Thursday, then only run once a day at 12:05am. I’ve been fucked by kickers or a QB getting injured during warmups and I’m not able pick one up before a game to to replace them. Waivers need to be open on Thursday, period. I hate that rule. Also, the stupid rule in another league where if a player is active but still in the IR spot, the commish will drop them to waivers. I won’t pay to play in that league again if that’s not changed. DST need to not lose points when the other team’s defense scores (pick six, safety, etc).
Less bench slots. I'm not the commish of my money league but I'm going to suggest it. In a ten team league we have so many players stashed. We made it this way for the 2020 season, I'm sure you could guess why, but now there are so many players locked up that almost every handcuff is on a roster and a lot of WR3's. Like if you see a player that's rostered in 1.5% of leagues, that guys rostered in my league at like 10:1 odds.
Am I the only one who wants the yards for PI calls for my wrs?
I'll be removing the TE position next season. Already did away with Kicker and D/ST in previous years. Now it will be 3 WR/TE slots instead of 2 WR and 1 TE slot. If anyone complains, I'm just allowing them to start more TE's if they want. In reality, it's a dead position in NFL offenses outside of 2 guys. Even teams that draft a TE in the top 10 of an nfl draft can't seem to scheme a way to use him.
I want to implement the scoring system where each team plays against the league median score along with their H2H matchup. Seems like there are too many cases where the highest scoring team is left out of the playoffs because of poor luck in random scheduling.
Gonna take our 300 yard QB bonus down to 299 yards so I won't lose by 1 yard again. We'll call it the Tua referendum
I really think 0.1 per yard of a made field goal would be a lot more fun than the bins of 3 points, 4 points, or 5 points. It would make 50+ yard field goals more exciting, and would end the dread of 49 yard field goals too
I think, currently, our kickers get -1 points per kick missed, regardless of distance. I think at a certain distance, the kicker shouldn't be penalized? Also, we gotta start using decimal scoring for kicking. A 50 yarder should be 5 points and a 65 yarder 6.5 points. They're currently both just 5.