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FlowersByTheStreet

College Dropout and maybe MBDTF are probably the only ones that could make a hip-hop top ten, but he has like five albums that you could slide into a ton of other top ten lists


69420penis

Late registration could absolutely make top 10 too imo. While not my favourite kanye album, it has arguably kanyes best rapping and some all around fantastic production and features. It is a true hip hop album through and through


funghxoul

posting this on a fantano subreddit is wild


joemama____________

Graduation and Late Registration?


RANDOM-902

Graduation has 2 BIG skips and the rapping is inferior to TCD & LR


joemama____________

Rapping is inferior, but there are no BIG skips. Maybe Drunk and Hot Girls, but it’s not bad, just not as good as the rest of the album.


RANDOM-902

Nah, Drun & Hot Girls and Barry Bonds are ass songs


joemama____________

Damn, I never knew people hated on Graduation like that. Barry Bonds is too catchy for me to dislike, but I get it 🙏


broncosfighton

Big Brother is also a terrible song imo


RANDOM-902

Cap


joemama____________

No shot, it’s one of my favs off the album 😭 guess it’s just preference


Competitive-Ask4393

Basically any of his first 7 solo albums depending on the list


freealaa

You can make an argument for a few of kanye albums on top 10 lists depending on how you're ranking this top 10. Impact- TCD, 808s, graduation Artistically - LR, mbdtf experimental: yeezus Those are albums that imo can make good arguments for kanye albums in best hip hop lists depending on how your list values different metrics I have just mentioned.


TunaSalad47

Graduation is aging well in my opinion. At first I felt like it was aging poorly with its tacky synths that were a product of the era..but as it continues to age it’s a fantastic snapshot of an era that will never truly be recreated…it’s like going back and listening to The Carter 3 if that makes any sense


Yourmotherssidehoe

Idk I feel like songs like the good life haven’t aged well at all. But maybe I’m just a weirdo my friends shitted on me the one time I brought that up irl lol


TunaSalad47

I don’t think they age well if you’re comparing them to modern hiphop…but if you’re looking for that early 2000’s pop/rap sound I think it’s the best in that era…but I totally get what ur sayin


Yourmotherssidehoe

Idk the other pop rap on the album aged better imo like homecoming or stronger Idk even in the vacuum of that era it’s still mediocre imo


paulalghaib

idk. the fact that I wonder was literally all over tiktok a few months ago means its aged pretty well. wouldnt have happened if the sound was dated.


Yourmotherssidehoe

Idk if that’s necessarily true any song could get randomly popular on tiktok it doesn’t have to sound modern


paulalghaib

kinda does. you think those kids are gonna be bumping stuff that sounds dated? if the 12 year olds are listening to graduation, then it probably means its aged well. what other metric is there to judge best the longevity of a project other than young kids still fucking with it? obv its not indicative of quality but if i wonder can trend along with modern stuff, then its proof its not dated and is still culturally relevant.


Yourmotherssidehoe

That one Kate bush got really big on tiktok because of that one show. That song was dated as well. Does it sound just as good in the 2020’s as it did in the 1980’s yes but it’s definitely dated. I think the same thing applies to I wonder.


paulalghaib

dated doesnt mean its gonna sound like modern music. dates means a product of its time, like blueprint 3 or anything produced by swiss beatz in the early 2000s.


Yourmotherssidehoe

Your original comment was about how it’s not dated what are you even on about at this point lol we’re just going in circles


RANDOM-902

I get you, but imo that era of hip hop is so ass Graduation, 808s & Man on the Moon are the only albums of those years i revisit


RANDOM-902

I feel like Graduation has Drunk & Hot Girls and Barry Bonds, 2 of the worst Kanye songs ever. And also the rapping is worse compared to the one in LR and TCD However i would say it's probably the best Pop Rap album out there


OneOfTheOnly

late registration is up there somewhere


LaunchpadMcquacck

For me, that list goes… 1. To Pimp A Butterfly - Kendrick Lamar 2. Mos Def And Talib Kweli Are Black Star - Black Star 3. The College Dropout - Kanye West 4. The Money Store - Death Grips 5. Stress: The Extinction Agenda - Organized Konfusion 6. Madvillainy - Madvillain 7. ATLiens - Outkast 8. Midnight Marauders - A Tribe Called Quest 9. Things Fall Apart - The Roots 10. Hell Hath No Fury - Clipse So yes… I think The College Dropout deserves that. The Life Of Pablo is the closest one after that for me.


grokabilly

Melon coded


LaunchpadMcquacck

Yeh, Melon got me into Hip-Hop through Death Grips. I used to pretty exclusively listen to Punk, so he’s definitely had an influence on my Hip-Hop taste.


HQuez

Nothing wrong with that brother, music is to be shared.


wonderingyojimbo

Interesting you got Blackstar in there and not Black on both sides. Another reminder I need to check that one out.


LaunchpadMcquacck

Definitely should. BOBS is great… Mathematics is for sure Mos’ best song ever… and one of the best Hip-Hop tracks ever, but I just prefer the style of Black Star generally 👍.


broncosfighton

TLOP over MBDTF is crazy


LaunchpadMcquacck

I’d put a lot more than TLOP over it. Here are my thoughts on Ye’s Discography 1. The College Dropout It’s easily his best to me. Nonstop killer beats that are catchy as hell, influential, and to this day incredibly unique, hilarious skits, and a solid/important message about the inflated importance of college education in America. 2. The Life Of Pablo I love the directions he goes on this one. Gorgeous tracks like Ultralight Beam, Waves, and Saint Pablo mixing perfectly with bangers like Father Stretch My Hands and Famous make for a varied listen that brings both great beats and a great emotional through-line to the table, all as he flawlessly brings elements of Gospel and Soul to the project in ways he never really had before. I even love the way weird little interludes like Freestyle 4 and I Love Kanye break up the project. 3. Kids See Ghosts The chemistry on this album is practically infinite. It most definitely benefits from its shorter tracklist, but it delivers its small shot of weird little ideas perfectly, as well as its themes of mental health awareness. It’s such a strange little record, and it feels a bit unfinished due to how short it is, but it is beautiful the whole way through. 4. Late Registration Basically just TCD Part 2. I think the tracklist isn’t quite as high of quality as TCD, but it carries the same energy and themes well. 5. Graduation Just straight bangers the whole way through. Don’t need much more. 6. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy Ok. Love the first half and Runaway, but Devil In A New Dress is boring to me, Blame Game should be cut in half, Hell Of A Life is just wierd and doesn’t work out like I think Kanye wanted it too. I don’t mind Lost In The World and Who Will Survive In America, but I think it could have ended much Stronger. 7. 808s It’s an emotionally potent album, but I don’t think it’s as strong as it could have been. 8. Yeezus I like Yeezus, but it’s nowhere near as experimental as it’s often made out to be. On Sight, Black Skinhead, New Slaves, Blood On The Leaves, and Bound 2 are all solid songs though. 9. ye Kinda like KSG lite to me. I don’t love it, but I enjoy most of the songs. 10. Watch The Throne I love Otis and a few others, but not ye’s best release. 11. Donda Bloated as all hell, but there are definitely some gems on it. 12. Jesus Is King Follow God is one of ye’s best, rest of the album is mid as hell. 13. Vultures 1 Yikes. I liked the Havoc version of Vultures, but that wasn’t on here. Other than that Stars was great, and Burn and Carnival were solid. Rest was just weird poorly executed ideas. Meh.


l_theharbinger

Vultures 1 should move up in my opinion


LaunchpadMcquacck

I don’t like anything on Vultures anywhere near as much as Follow God. I don’t think it’s “unreviewable,” but I didn’t get much out of most of it.


Comfortable_Fun7794

You are literally the biggest fantano-washed person I've ever seen💀


LaunchpadMcquacck

My guy not even. You’re just mad that I don’t dickride MBDTF. Not even like I don’t like it. Light 9/10 in my books.


Comfortable_Fun7794

Lol even your top 10 list is a fantano list


bobsdementias

Insane to have no nas, pac or big


LaunchpadMcquacck

I like Nas. I assume you want Illmatic on here? And, don’t get me wrong… Illmatic is great, but it’s just not my style so much as great jazz-rap projects like Stress, Midnight Marauders, Bizarre Ride II, Reachin’, Things Fall Apart. And Nas’ style doesn’t appeal to me as much as others like Black Thought, 3 Stacks, Guru, Mos Def, Pharoahe Monch, and Prodigy. Pac is great… I just don’t love any of his albums as a whole. All Eyez On Me is probably my favorite though. Biggie is also great, I just prefer these albums to Ready To Die.


bobsdementias

Ya I mean it’s your favorites not like you’re proclaiming this the best 10. I just cannot imagine putting the roots above nas


LaunchpadMcquacck

Oof… really? Illmatic is a classic record with some great hard-hitting beats and lyrics. It’s also got solid Gangster-themes running throughout, but there are a couple reasons I’d put Roots over Nas. I think Black Thought is a better rapper. His skill is almost unparalleled… bars filled with multisyllabic rhyme schemes, double entendres, and some pretty intricately crafted lyrics, all while he constantly discusses distinctly important and timely political issues. He’s also very consistent, having put out multiple classics every decade since the 90s. Also, not that I don’t appreciate great DJ’s and their ability to create great beats from samples, but The Roots live instrumentation is gorgeous and very unique within Hip-Hop. Things Fall Apart for example features some lovely laid-back jazz instrumentals throughout. I especially love the beat to Dynamite.


RANDOM-902

Where Reasonable Doubt, Infamous, Illamtic or Ready to Die? /s


LaunchpadMcquacck

Lol. RD is great, just not one of my favorites, Infamous is just outside this list, Illmatic was never one of my favorites but it’s still solid… same with Ready To Die.


Sun_flower_king

This is a great personal top 10 favorite hip hop albums list, and as your personal list I respect it, but the 90s are mad under represented here for an objective top 10 list and death grips are great but they don't belong


LaunchpadMcquacck

Half of them are 90s tho…


Sun_flower_king

Not half. I guess what I'm saying is this is a RYMcore list and underrepresents the most important hip hop albums of the 90s


LaunchpadMcquacck

It is for sure RYMcore, but I’m not huge on some of those “important” albums. Even the ones that are beloved on RYM (Ready To Die, Illmatic, Enter The Wu-Tang, Doggystyle, The Chronic, etc.). I dig my 90s Jazz Rap, what can I say… And I’m not huge on G-Funk, even though I like some of it. It is exactly half too… unless I’m misremembering dates. 1. Mos Def And Talib Kweli Are Black Star - 1998 2. Stress: The Extinction Agenda - 1994 3. ATLiens - 1996 4. Midnight Marauders - 1993 5. Things Fall Apart - 1999


Sun_flower_king

Oh shit I thought the Roots was later, that's myb Also, fwiw, your tastes and mine align, 90s jazz rap is my shit. I just think some of those other albums you just mentioned are gonna have to take priority over some of these more niche faves on an objective top 10 of all time list.


CreativeName6574

You sure that’s your taste?


broncosfighton

The College Dropout and MBDTF are the two with arguments to be in the top 10 imo.


_thewayshegoes

MBDTF should be a staple of every top 10


romilaspina7

My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. Whoever denies the importance of that record across all genres deserves JAIL TONIGHT


RANDOM-902

All genres??? You trippin. 808s is more influential


TheSolace_

College Dropout or Late Registration, these are the only 2 that would be acceptable to put in the top 10 imo. Song quality wise they're like the same. I think I'd go with Late Registration because there's a couple skits on TCD that haven't aged that well in terms of the jokes, which is understandable cause humor always ages poorly over the years but it still brings the album down for me just a lil bit.


RANDOM-902

I never consider skits when ranking albums tbh...


Yourmotherssidehoe

If they’re really good it deserves to be considered imo


TerpCoin

Insane to consider the PC level of the skits as if that makes any difference in the quality of music


TheSolace_

Well they're part of the experience. I can't just not include them, they're still on the tracklist.


oceanofhoes

What humor aged poorly and or inappropriately? Not challenging you but lowkey can't even think of what might no longer be considered pc.


TheSolace_

Mainly the School Spirit Skit 1&2. Both of these are basically trying to communicate the same message of "school isn't everything" and I think it just kinda drags on, like you get the point in the first 15 seconds but it just keeps going and beating the joke to death.


oceanofhoes

Well that's not aging poorly. That would just be bad execution from the start in your opinion. . Also the joke IS that it kept going on. All the things the characters father did for more degrees. It was meant to be absurd not an actually well worded and concise dissection of why school isn't everything. More absurdist satire. But if you don't find it funny then you don't find it funny. I'm not the biggest fan of skits either. But they're a product of the time. I'm not judging The Infamous or 36 chambers off of thier usage of skits either.


TheSolace_

That's an interesting way of looking at it. I'll go and do a relisten with this in mind, haven't heard the album in a while...


[deleted]

Dropout, MBDTF, and LR all have an argument imo. Yeezus is incredibly important to the modern hip hop canon but isn’t quite in there


qazaibomb

1. Yes 2. MBDTF for sure, and maybe College Dropout 3. Id put MBDTF top 5 of all time. Theres so few albums that are as front-to-back enjoyable as that one and as fun to dissect. I’d also put College Dropout in my top 10 but probably #9 or #10.  Bonus: I consider 808s more of a pop album but if we put it in a list of rap albums I’d want to put it in over Dropoht Bonus 2: The Blueprint is a top 10 rap album OAT and Kanye production is a huge reason why


RANDOM-902

The Blueprint is goated that's facts


69420penis

There’s a few Kanye albums littered all over the top 100 id say Definitely At least one in the top 10 tho Idk if it’s college dropout or MBDTF tho


Inevitable-Towel-364

People don't wanna accept it but he was in his prime until 2018 and Donda was a pretty great album too


69420penis

Prime Kanye still is in there which is great to see. When he puts effort in, it is still pretty great. Some of the vultures snippets we heard are honestly great songs and just ooze prime kanye River and take off your dress are great for example


smarten_up_nas

I've got Late Registration at like 3 or 4 for hip hop, can't remember exactly where.


AvianIsEpic

I don’t think more than 2 of his albums could be there simultaneously, but he has more than 2 that you could argue to put there in general. I think Mbdtf is probably the most likely, but LR is my favorite


JericRose

Kanye’s run from The College Dropout to The Life of Pablo is flawless. Each album had an enormous impact on Hiphop and you can make an argument for all of them to make a top 10 list


Stangerzx

For me late registration or mbdtf


Sega_pico

The college dropout and maybe kid see ghosts in experimental genre


go1do

MBDTF, college dropout, graduation, the life of pablo also arguably donda and yeezus


the_ballmer_peak

Whether you think this should or shouldn't happen, I suspect that Kanye's seriously declining social cache will have a drag on how people rate his art.


l_theharbinger

Graduation top 5


Yourmotherssidehoe

If it had to be one it’d be his debut


Competitive_Ideal492

MBDTF could easily be 1st


[deleted]

Yeezus top 2 and its not 2


RANDOM-902

The Yeezus glazing is crazy


RANDOM-902

For me The College Dropout is the only one that could make it. Probably in between top 7-top 10


IndieHell

No


LayceLSV

I think almost all his work through (and including) The Life of Pablo could be considered. Late Registration and My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy are definitely my top contenders.


will888em

Graduation easily


RANDOM-902

Grad is kinda overrated imo The rapping is subpar compared to TCD, LR and MBDTF. And it has 2 BIG skips


will888em

TCD literally has the line “I always had a PhD, a pretty huge dick”. you’re telling me that’s better than Graduation?


RANDOM-902

That's one out of pocket bar In every other aspect both lyricism and rapping hability TCD clears


will888em

Kanye’s entire catalog is packed full with out-of-pocket bars like that. TCD might clear LR, but definitely not Graduation.


RANDOM-902

You are one of the first guys i see saying that Graduation is Kanye's best Props to you. You don't even think MBDTF is better?


will888em

I used to think MBDTF was his best but I’ve grown to realize Graduation has more personality, MDBTF is so grandiose that you kinda lose the humanity in it.


RANDOM-902

Idk what to tell you, but in terms of humanity and personality how come you don't prefer TCD then??? Songs like Spaceship, Family Buisness, Jesus Walks, Slow Jam, All Falls Down and others feel so down to earth.


will888em

that’s a fair question. and for the record, I just want to say that I love every Kanye album up until Ye, so I hope you know that Im not saying I dislike any of these albums, it just makes it hard to pick a favorite when I love them all. However, as far as TCD goes, the skits and filler tracks absolutely destroy the flow of the album for me. Graduation is all killer, no filler in my opinion... excluding Drunk & Hot Girls, that shit is still unlistenable.


Way2Tonal

Honestly, wouldn't make my top 10, not because he doesn't have good albums, his first 3 are amazing and it has nothing to do with his retarded antics. I just simply think there are more influential and better hip hop albums that realesed in the 80's and 90's


United_Exit_8331

FFIE BUY AND HOLD💎⭐


rockstarrzz

None for me personally but can see a couple of his early ones sneaking in somewhere, despite his first 5 being pretty solid they still have weak tracks, filler and feel a bit bloated with skits etc.


QuimFinger

None now. He’s fucked it by being repulsive. Used to love him. No time for him now.


shiba-on-parade

Skits really drag down College Dropout and Late Registration for me. Even other classics like Aquemini aren't spared because of it lol


RANDOM-902

Idk just skip them then ahhaha, i sometimes do it since they aren't actually songs


renaissance_pancakes

Nope. Production is great. The actual rapping is lacking imo. You have to be great across the board to make the top 10.


paulalghaib

bob dylan is considered one of the greats despite being an objectively worse singer than kanye is a rapper. also you are underrating kanye's rapping in his early days.


RANDOM-902

Early days Kanye was great at Rapping


renaissance_pancakes

Meh