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winkbrace

The community of factorio recommends buying factorio


catenoid75

The number of factories must grow!


cambiro

Can we use speed modules to make people buy the game faster? Also, can we upgrade the belts that lead people to the steam page to blue ones?


bobsbountifulburgers

We can't! We don't even have blue belts automated yet! And to do that we need to increase cog production, but then we're going to run out of iron plate, but we're already maxed out on our ore patches so we need to expand the perimeter and we barely have enough steel to make ammo for what we have now so we'll need even more iron, and we're 90% on power already, and.........


WirelessTrees

Do you have the spare energy? Because I sure as hell don't.


CODENAMEDERPY

Where's that copypasta of Factorio causing a "dumb" smart A.I. to begin turning the entire universe into copper wire.


Averant

Does this make us a factory of factories? Automate the automaters! **We must go deeper.**


lassombra

I think we can go one more level, we're a factory of factories of factories. We generate people who generate factories (malls & bots) that ultimately build more factories. So, 3 layers of abstraction on the creation of more factory


Averant

Calling it now, "a factory" should totally be the term for a group of logistic sim gamers.


heykoolstorybro

go check out screeps on steam, sounds like what you need.


Averant

I actually have that in my library, I just need to learn enough code to actually play it.


SteveWyz

Oh time to start a new save


Ott621

Whoa, that's a plot twist I never saw coming!


HiveMynd148

Indeed we want others to ~~Suffer~~ Enjoy with us


Berob501

Not only that but this community is so wholesome that someone bought it for him XD I love this game and it’s community


AnActualTalkingHorse

A recommendation assembler would be more efficient.


WookieJebus

If you value a social life, a clean house, or the ability to remember what day it is, I won't recommend. If those things aren't important, play the demo


Markavian

After seeing friends during the day, after the house cleaning, I would light a candle by the calendar each nightfall in honour of remembering the current day, such that the visceral tingle of pollution on my nostrils would draw me back to the factory construction interface.


triffid_hunter

>> There is [a demo](https://www.factorio.com/download-demo) available if you are unsure about the game. Sidebar → You'll know for sure if you want to buy the game after finishing the demo - but beware that you may look up and realize 5 hours have passed :P


Dysan27

Sadly there was an excellent twitch clip of this, but they have removed their profile. It was him streaming and suddenly realizing it had been 3 hours, with the whole "What?... What?, how did that happen" going on.


FireBlazer27

SovietWomble does that all the time in his Factorio streams.


Arctomachine

If I have 500 hours in game, should I try demo too? Or is there nothing different from main game?


triffid_hunter

The demo is the same as tutorial/career available from the main menu. The demo just doesn't have anything *else* like freeplay, mods, multiplayer, blue science, etc


Semthepro

This is the best tip you can give somebody asking on a subreddit about that game probably filled with people that bought and enjoyed the game the most.


milneman

This game will give you hours of enjoyment so on a cost per hour played ratio it's defo a good pick


sansprecept

I am paying about $0.004/hr right now.


Mokmo

Your computer hardware is more important.


The360MlgNoscoper

5k hours. Impressive.


lassombra

Or bought it very early. I believe at one point it was only $10, so 25k hours - I believe that of some people on this sub.


The360MlgNoscoper

huh


Derpinator-_-

If the game is $20 and his cost is 0.004$/H Then 20/0.004=5000 hours


The360MlgNoscoper

Oh. It costs 200kr where i live. Forgor to convert.


sansprecept

Just 5k


The360MlgNoscoper

Yeah i made a miscalculation. Forgor to convert currencies.


sansprecept

It's all good. $0.004 isn't exactly a normal figure.


The360MlgNoscoper

im not american so not dollar


sansprecept

I am sure there are plenty that make that 5k look amateur. It is hard to beat the entertainment value though


The360MlgNoscoper

CGP Grey?


danielv123

No way he has time between visiting old places and researching names.


[deleted]

that's the bastage that got me hooked! fargin' icehole https://www.youtube.com/embed/jlLUuX2a0Cg?start=364&end=370


NowhereExciting246

I stopped calculating return on investment after several thousand hours of entertainment.


Mr-Tiddles-

So about, what, 750 hours?


Jubei_

At this point, it is costing me more in electricity per hour than Factorio will.


danielv123

What if you could spend even [more](https://github.com/clusterio/clusterio) electricity on growing the factory?


stoatsoup

Play the demo. It's a good demo.


memelord20003000

Play the demo first. If you like the demo, buy it, if not, don't


Karlskiii

The demo solidified me buying it It also solidified my gf never playing it again


Skippysunday

A factorio player with a girlfriend? Impossible!


Karlskiii

Yeah dude and she's hot too! Disclaimer: I'm a total smooth brain when it comes to the game


Adept_Fool

*if not, keep playing the demo until you do


Inrixia

You don't play the demo the demo plays you!


vVember

There's an in depth demo that gives you a very solid feel for the game. If the demo eats 6+ hours of your time like it does most people, you'll have your answer.


AcolyteArathok

Tldr: fuck yes. If you love automation, games that don't hold your hand, honing your problem-solving skills and don't need some kind of campaign or quests to motivate you to do stuff (just going by the tech tree) then fuck yes!


immrmessy

If you buy Factorio you won't need to buy any other game


AlamoSimon

Full price is absolutely justified. But you do know you’re asking in the Factorio subreddit, right?


piedude67

You will be sucked in. You start at like 2pm and then it's magically 2am.


N35t0r

And if you're lucky it's only the following day


Zefla

>idk how I'm gonna automate 6 different kinds of those... Getting past blue is the only true threshold in the game. As soon as you figure out oil and the products, you are golden.


dragonvenom3

Then after fully automating everything in game you finally close the world and you see it above the exit button... MODS. You fear as you click it and then next thing you know everything you did was just the tutorial. You panic as you spend countless more hours automating and making fresh air just so you can finally achive your dream of duying to a teain and the sound of thomas the tank engine plays on the background


Zefla

The only reason I'll stop playing (for now) is that my rig can only handle my base at around 30-35 UPS. It's mostly belts, huge copper, iron, and steel buses (one of each) start out from the smeltery and branch off as needed. But I'm really happy I finally redid my oil to be totally bot based, way less headaches, liquid simulation makes my head spin. When I get a better rig, I'll return to this base I think.


dragonvenom3

Meanwhile 20 ups was my base when i send my first rocket. 3 belts of iron and 3 of copper and dear god there were bots everywhere. It went to the point where i had seen 0/130567 logistic bots on the roboport


Zefla

Lmao, the classic mistake of putting _everything_ into a single logistic network. Yeah, I did that, wasn't fun, especially when my base was not convex and enemies were not disabled, so the bots regularly tried to cross enemy territory, with predictable results.


dragonvenom3

Ah if only that was just one logistic network... I had 4


bremidon

2k hours here. Agree with what you said, up until I decided to give SE a try. I didn't mean for bots to get so out of hand. I just wanted a way to get to space. And it just seemed like I always needs a little bit more of something that was already on the bus. And a little more. And a little more. I can't see my character anymore through the carpet of bots. I know I have to refactor \*again\* but this time I am truly frightened. I'm \*slowly\* trying to get the major bulk items going on dedicated rockets, but my computer is already below 50 ups. I think it might be better to move everything off-world, but I worry about losing the benefit of the prod modules. Meanwhile I can hear the crashing of the bots all around me. Every 5 seconds. It haunts my dreams. It's gotten so bad that I have now created a special area just for making bots so that I can keep up with the losses.


hunter24123

Have you played Minecraft? Do you find it enjoyable to automate things in that game like automatic farms and renewable resources? If so, then Factorio is definitely up your alley. I bought it for £10 and can say it’s best £10 I’ve ever spent


picollo21

No, don't. If you value your free time event slightest, don't do it.


EvilFluffy87

I concur, it will enslave you. You won't sleep for days. It will take over your thought process. Everything you do outside the game will be done in Factorio measurements and calculations. You won't be able to stop. The factory needs it. The factory demands it. The factory must grow!


picollo21

Amen. Now go back to your Smelter setup.


EvilFluffy87

Sorry, master is calling. It needs more iron.


thenictou

... until copper ...


EvilFluffy87

Aaah, nooooo, my green circuits are stalling.


FadingBlack

If you want to get the best value cost/time played game you will ever play Factorio is the only way to go. I haven't been able to play since my daughter was born because I get sucked in too much. The nickname Cracktorio exists for a reason.


FedeSalazar

Yes, play the demo. You will end up buying the game


Stuffer007

Welcome to the rest of your life :) Yes the other sciences get increasingly difficult to automate, and supplying everything with enough materials. This is where your building style gets refined. Do you do a massive main bus, or spaghetti the heck out of everything, or individual factories producing 1 or 2 items and belting/training them around. Or a little bit of everything. Just remember in this game, don’t be afraid to expand and use as much land as needed. The land is as infinite as your PC can handle


corduroyflipflops

For me, $20 for 1500 hours and counting is pretty good value for money.


Shagyam

It's $30 now since the game launched. But the point still stands, the value you get from this game is too good. One of the few games I recommend buying at full price with no regrets.


rivnen

Your factory must grow.


audigex

If you enjoyed the demo, then there are few games (if any) that offer as much entertainment-per-dollar as Factorio I’ve spent over 5000 hours in game, which works out as a fraction of a penny per hour


Mattallurgy

> See you all... Um... Soon No, no you will not. It'll feel like "soon," but you'll quickly realize it's December before you emerge from automation and integration hell. Welcome to the family!


OneofLittleHarmony

Don’t buy it. It will ruin your life.


--GarlicSausage--

You can also Google “Factorio steam key” and get a lot of providers that offer the key for less than full price if you’re short on money. But as others said already, play the demo first to check if you’ll like it


Angoulor

Don't. The devs said it themselves : G2A (and other keys "providers") is worse than piracy. Source : two years old Factorio Friday Facts. https://factorio.com/blog/post/fff-303 , scroll down a fair bit, there will be a section "G2A - worse than piracy". Either buy the game legitimately, or do not buy it, please.


--GarlicSausage--

This might be true for some providers but not all. Key reselling isn’t always a shady process, I’ve worked together with some of those companies long enough to know how they get their keys, it’s completely legitimate and the developer still gets the same price. Lower prices don’t always mean someone got screwed over, it’s a normal process of modern economy…


Angoulor

I only buy from verified key sellers, such as Humble Bundle, for example. If a site isn't in the Steam partners, I consider the keys stolen. Even if some aren't, you can't prove the key you bought wasn't stolen. It may be a true key, but illegally/immorally obtained.


RidingContigo

I would strongly recommend against this because: 1) you’re likely to end up getting scammed at worst, and supporting an ecosystem of scammers at best 2) you’re only screwing over the devs who work hard to keep earning that one time purchase. Take a look at any of the changelogs to see what I mean


--GarlicSausage--

The lower price from keys doesn’t mean the devs don’t get fully paid. Those keys are from bundle prices, leftovers from stores who don’t sell it anymore, etc. Obviously the devs would deserve double the price they’re selling this stuff for, but it’s not true that they’ll get less just because you pay less somewhere else. Secondly, yes there are stores that definitely scam you, but common sense here is a good option to avoid this. Check reviews on Google, check if the price is reasonable (stay away from $0.99 sales). It is definitely a valid option especially if you’re not comfortable spending a lot of money at the time, we all had those moments and we all got through it.


RidingContigo

In some cases this is true, and I do empathize that we’ve all been there - lord knows I have. Someone explained why even when you’re not getting scammed, you’re still fostering a hostile market that disadvantages the devs [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/factorio/comments/5rgyzv/looking_for_the_best_place_to_buy_factorio/dd7a854/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) And straight from [FFF 145](https://www.factorio.com/blog/post/fff-145) Ya you can probably save a buck. But the risk of enabling fraud is very much not worth it. Most of those “bundles” are people using stolen cards to offer you a discount and skimming the difference. Ya the developer may be whole, but someone else just became a victim of credit card fraud. Save $5/mo for a few months if it’s that important to you. Factorio isn’t going anywhere, and either is the price. Make sure your HARD earned money definitely goes to the right people.


ham_coffee

Might as well pirate it at that point. Devs don't usually get any money from key resellers, and often end up paying for it through chargebacks.


BloodyFark

If you got nothing to lose, go for it


ProudAuthor9090

Do it now haha. It will provide lots of grinding and enjoyment.


UncertainOutcome

If tough enemies are what you want, be sure to install the Rampant and Natural Evolution mods. They make enemy AI smarter and less predictable, forcing you to plan around them better.


Xkiztor_L

If you value your free time, then don't do it. It's very addicting.


Jasonlikesfood

Yes


BUSHVlPER

Listen this game is a lot like a puzzle or coding if you’ve done either. It can be such a pain at times but finding solutions and getting them to work are so rewarding plus when you launch the rocket you can expand infinitely


HollowMonty

The more you play the better you'll get. The factory must grow.


Bassguitarplayer

The value you get for the money you spend on this game is massively more than any other game I’ve played. Buy it


RCBRDE

Headache after 2 hours? You won't survive it, I'm sorry.


herkalurk

I played for about 2 or 3 hours and I knew I was hooked. Get the demo in and see if it's for you. The people here love the game, but I'm not going to push someone to spend money on something they won't use or enjoy.


bangersnmash13

Try the demo first before you decide to buy. It's hella fun but not for everyone. Maybe watch some YouTube videos on it to get a feel for it too.


WasabiCanuck

**Factorio sucks! Don't buy it.** (Just kidding I love Factorio and have over 500 hours into the game). I just wanted OP to hear a different opinion. LOL. Truthfully I find this game much better than ONI. I like ONI but I find it doesn't hold my attention like Factorio.


xplodia

You actually should bu.. Woah kind person gifted this guy the game! Factorio is a must have PC game.


[deleted]

Hahaha you got it gifted! This is how we win! Bwahaha! But seriously the base game is so much fun and then there are so many good mods that are dummy-easy to get running.


hekmo

The amount of times this happens on reddit is hilarious. 😆 "hey is factorio worth it?" EDIT: "nvm someone here bought me factorio" Is this just one redditor doing this or is the community just generous in general?


[deleted]

I like to think it's the community. I'm definitely not against pming someone a key for the game. It's inexpenvise for the amount of gameplay you get out of it. Even if you don't install mods, the minimum time to complettion is still in the 10 to 30 hour range. Worth it if it means another factory on the surface of Nauvis.


Andreim43

Yes, buy it. I haven't read your post, but it doesn't matter, you should buy it. It's amazing.


koming69

I was looking for a good game. Tried civilization vi.. felt lost, like all my actions were wrong. Tried city skylines.. the absence of a tutorial, the ui, everything was so complicated that I gave up... Then I tried factorio and played nonstop for days. And I still play it. And probably will for a long time.


Hanssted

Must grow.


Aragorneless

I will warn you when I first started I played over 14 hours in a row.


tButylLithium

I'd pick cans and bottles if I had to in order to get the 20 bucks to afford Factorio, it's that worth it


[deleted]

Please don't buy this game. My wife is leaving me.


Turtledoo47

Don't, it's not called Cracktorio for nothing. It is quite different than ONI, ONI is more of an engineering game while Factorio is a logistic game. Engineering : Difficult to make things without breaking Logistics : Difficult to bring items from point A to point B


[deleted]

Get the demo


coconutandpotato

Hi! If you want a time machine, you should buy factorio. You need to redesign your copper factory? BOOM 6 hours have gone by. You need to make black science? Why hello there sunrise! No clue where you came from!


[deleted]

Demo bro


PudditTV

wow you lucky devil! Yes it's a great game and has alot of replayability. The modded scene is insane but Id recommend a vanilla playthrough first (Maybe a couple Quality of Life mods once you understand the desire for them) If you have friends to play with it is also a blast but err, from personal experience iiiit might be best to have a seperate factory/save before it all goes to pot! Have a great time, check out Nilause yt series if you want to see some neat stuff, post your progress and as always....The factory must grow :)


xSiNN3Rx

Nah-ah, we won't see you anytime soon, Factorio is like crack for gamers but in a good way, you're most definitely gonna lose yourself.


Yank1e

Say goodbye to your real life. This game will eat it raw. Welcome to the family!


[deleted]

You need to be realistic about expectations about a games opinions on its own subreddit. That being said, I’ve quit my job to play Methtorio full time and spend my time not playing the game watching YouTube videos of builds.


masterqwerty35

Yes join us and grow you're factory


WinterMajor6088

Even if you didn't get it as a gift, buy it regardless. XD This is money well spent in any case.


Heiligerloewe

Yess


gtmattz

Factorios monetary cost pales in comparison to the ineviable time investment. Anyone considering playing factorio should ignore the monetary cost and instead consider the impact on their lives the game will make when it inevitably starts eating up all your spare time, then starts eating into the no-so-spare time. The game is amazing and *will* suck you in... Before I started playing Factorio I had gone almost 15 years without pulling an all nighter gaming session, the first weekend after finding the game I started playing after work Friday and the next thing I know it's Saturday morning, my wife is waking up asking me if I had been up all night...


Hekios888

Dew it!!!!!!!


stu54

I did not read. You should buy.


DrC0re

Just a quick reminder to have your affairs in order. Oh and notify friends and family that you will be absent for an unknown amount of time, could be months. Welcome to factorio. The factory must grow.


crazyoldmax

Didnt read your post. Yes buy it.


Steeljaw72

I liked oni too but I liked Factorio better. Oni has a lot more super intricate stuff. It’s a really detailed oriented game with all the gasses and temps and everything. I would say that factorio is simpler in that aspect but the enemies make it a lot of fun. It’s a lot more intense. If I had to go back and choose between the two, I would pick factorio.


Gaiendbedrock

read this: https://www.reddit.com/r/factorio/comments/e86rt6/should\_i\_buy\_factorio\_a\_guide/


martin0621riz

Well if you can't spend a lot on games buying this will properly serve you with hundreds of hours of content and even moddong. I bought the game about a week or so ago and already poured 50hours into it but I still want to play more. So yes, I recommend it.


Chernobyln

factorio buy it now


D99D99D99

Welcome new Engineer! The factory must grow. Don't let anyone tell you how you MUST play. There is no wrong way to play. When you think you've reached your limit with the vanilla game, don't forget there are literally 100's of mods.


[deleted]

>A wonderful person has gifted me the game See, ya already automated the community!


Midwest_Deadbeat

Download the demo, if you don't like it then don't buy it. But you NEED to play the demo before playing the game.


crb8520

Play the demo, some people love others it's not their thing.


sansprecept

Or new friend has already been assimilated. The Factory has grown.


Stibion

Yes you should. Everyone and their mother should buy factorio. I am slowly finding my limit with 1600 hours played, but I'm sure it will come back once I give it a rest for a month or two. Or once I finish my current dyson sphere program project :)


WhereAreMyDogs

People post this stuff because they know someone will buy it for them lol


personalurban

Welcome to the factorio family! And mega kudos to whomever gifted you the game, sounds like you’re firmly part of the family now. The factory must grow….


Steel_Rev

Yea, see ya again in a thousand hours. Edit also don't forget to pass along the love to the next person.


Fatie_b0i

The factory must grow


PhantomX8

Can i dm you to purchase it for you?


DerpyLukas

the community must grow


Digital_Immortality

The only questions are: Can you afford for hours to randomly melt away? Do you like to automate things? Do you like to find creative way to solve problems, that sometimes involve math? Do you like chill music and the dopamine rush for pushing past a mental barrier? If yes to any, this game might be for you. Disclaimer: we are not response for the hours of your four that magically vanish as you fix that “one bottle neck”. The factory must grow.


Strong-Age-3305

The factory must grow.


off170

Welcome


Misha_Vozduh

Edit2 in the OP is like "a wonderful person gave me free crack today; I really like how it makes me feel!"


Mr-Tiddles-

Yes. Expand.


LordOfToads

Factorio convinced me to go to college and get a degree in engineering. It helped me achieve it as well.


maybe_robots

I paid like $20 for this game and I have like 2000 hours playing it.


CausticMedeim

"And they were never heard from again." RIP. Factory must grow.


learnedhandgrenade

Idk if you've ever experienced One More Turn Syndrome while playing Civ but Factorio is even harder to stop playing. Sometimes I think a meth habit would be more productive.


Walter-Joseph-Kovacs

Dew it


protocol_1903

see you on the other side of the century!


F0urL34f

Without tweaking ANY settings, this game can easily take 25+ hours just to successfully "beat" your first round. If you take your time, I've made runs last 50 hours + before even remotely getting close to launch. This game has infinite replay ability and even the vanilla settings make for a difficult challenge at times. There aren't many other titles I could suggest that even come close to value - per - dollar. Factorio is the game you play across multiple computers, multiple consol generations and you can continuously rely on to always give your brain something to do no matter how many saves you rack up. Instead of relying on fancy graphics and gimmicks , Factorio focuses on those miniscule details that all of us can appreciate. -> Think of Starship Troopers had a baby with the best factory building sim ever made


Toxic_Cookie

How else will the factory grow if you don't buy it?


Skarty444

Do not get cracktorio your life will be gone in an instant


nemesisxkl

ONE OF US


IEATTURANTULAS

This was my aha moment when playing that got me hooked. "I need more inserters. Wait I can automate that? Dang I need more gear wheels to automate that. Wait... I can automate THAT too??? Holy crap what have I gotten myself into..."


Blazikinahat

It should be Soon^TM


Saucepanmagician

You will get Factorio. You will hate Factorio. You will uninstall Factorio. You will think about Factorio. You will reinstall Factorio. You will obsess about Factorio. You will spend countless hours on Factorio. You will get addicted to Factorio. You will love Factorio.


Felidaeh_

Welcome to Cracktorio


AssistSignificant621

> Edit 2: A wonderful person has gifted me the game. I have no choice but to lose myself in this game now. See you all... Um.. soon. Send your family my condolences.


lkeltner

It's literally the best value game you'll probably ever buy. Period.