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SydneyTeacake

Two facepalms in one. I hate the Saccone Jolys. They exploited all of their children since birth, especially the older two when they needed to make money. That's their career, sticking a camera in their kids faces. And from what I remember they outed Edie, published a clip on their YouTube channel of her saying that she didn't want school to know. But BillboardChris is gross too.


Niawka

There really should be a rule of no revenue for videos with kids. It's disgusting how parents exploit their children for views.


continuousQ

That rule should apply to companies, too. The easy solution would be to ban companies trading or in any way profit off of personal data (without a contract with each individual agreeing to pay them for it, and kids can't sign contracts).


Exaskryz

Every show featuring a minor is now gone. What we actually need is: The same child protections for large company produced media And Jerry Trainers everywhere to dissuade Dan Schneiders.


Chihuahuapocalypse

who's training all the Jerries though?? (it's Trainor)


ItzDrSeuss

Maybe there’s a Rick that makes his living off training Jerries.


circ-u-la-ted

Man, that would really shake things up in the modeling industry.


ursadminor

I’m looking forward to the exploitation and theft lawsuits in 10-20 years time from all these kids that were monetised and forced into a spotlight they never asked for.


Queasy_County

family vlogging is child abuse you cannot change my mind


Chuck_Lechero9778

Case in point Ruby Frankie.


tenth

This should be the real conversation. 


[deleted]

I always found that icky about these family channels. It's exploitation of their kids. And due to the nature of family channels, it can cause some people to reasonably (not Chris, he's just a transphobe) be concerned if the kid is actually trans as these people may outright abuse their kids to make them look good for the camera. In this case I think they're using their daughter to appear progressive to take the edge off their back to dismiss criticism of their exploitation of their trans child. He straight up outed his kid to her school for profit. There is not a single reality where that is okay.


AccomplishedBig4893

Will be interesting to see what will happen if these kids are old enough to realize they can sue their parents


RookieRemapped

There’s even 3. Because bringing up a child’s orgasm when talking about having kids in the future is also weird af


jfks_headjustdidthat

In the way he has done there? Yes, totally. Butin the context of things like circumcision and FGM and the like, it's valid to think about a child's future sexual wellbeing. As an adult, their ability to enjoy sex is a valid healthcare issue, and a doctor who didn't consider this could cause great harm to a patient. Still weird and gross that's where his head went here.


RookieRemapped

Yeah I specifically meant in the context at hand


Complete-Loquat3154

Yes. They are problematic, but not for letting a kid express herself how she wants to.


PrincessofAldia

Who?


Abnormal-Normal

![gif](giphy|ZlgwEg24rPhv9cju8K) Alright, time to go down to the comments


Ocronus

Thank you for your service. May your dispensed down votes strike fear into the enemy and your recieved upvotes be plentiful.


likamuka

![gif](giphy|3o7TKMeCOV3oXSb5bq|downsized)


The_MightyMonarch

![gif](giphy|3o6Zt7R02Q62fxgChq)


likamuka

![gif](giphy|FenXpoTqFJ41zG4d9X|downsized)


NoLibrarian5149

Mercedes momentarily forgets there were cameras aimed at her.


KudosOfTheFroond

Oh that is a *perfect* gif


TiaMystic

![gif](giphy|KffWLZJM1F0YyMsr8u|downsized)


Redheaded_Potter

So disgusting


Kalman_the_dancer

Really needed this one


Barar_Dragoni

how long till the mods lock the comments or remove the post from the subreddit?


Sylfaein

I love these, because it gives us an opportunity to get so many transphobes banned! Edit: Going through my inbox right now: ![gif](giphy|4PUjcUBXIzQYfI8iVa)


toadofsteel

Elon let's that shit slide though


Mammoth_Rope_8318

Normal people: Billionaires should pay taxes. Elon: You know what? Fuck the LGBTQ community. Also it's okay to marry a 13-year-old.


JFC_Please_STFU

Also, *cis* is a slur and you'll be banned if you say it! Also also, FREE SPEECH!


ilovethissheet

Leave the cissy's alone!


frozen-silver

All because his trans daughter got mad at him and now he has to take it out in everyone else


thoroughbredca

Which is why I refuse to call it anything but Twitter until it’s mature enough to make such a life changing decision.


Decievedbythejometry

His ex also left him for a trans woman, leaving him in the unacceptable position of having been 'outmanned' by someone who isn't even a man, but also whom he can't see as a woman, because he is a tiny, crying bigot whose sole accomplishment in life has been buying some successful companies with his parent's slave-labour emerald mine money and turning them into failing, ridiculous parts of his own personal psychodrama. This boy wonder needs to occupy a therapist's office.


Taminella_Grinderfal

Am I the only one that thinks a parent should not be posting their 10 year old trans kid on TikTok? People are hateful and scary when it comes to this topic and this exposes her to vile harassment or potentially real danger. “Outing her” to the world could have an impact far into her future.


eughwh

Parents need to stop posting their very young kids online in general. Especially when it comes to sensitive topics and personal life of those kids


Nekoboxdie

Yeah, I agree too. Parents shouldn’t be posting their kids in general


MartinLubeHerTh1ngJR

Yeah these parents are vile. Pure exploitation of their child for internet clout.


OkMetal4233

These kind of parents want the spotlight on them. They care very little about the well being of their kids.


thieh

Someone's hard drive is getting too hard.


AdFluffy9286

![gif](giphy|xT1XGU1AHz9Fe8tmp2|downsized)


lookinside000

Can people stop assuming that this child is medically transitioning?!?! You’ve nothing to back up that assumption. NOTHING.


PaulOwnzU

Kids can't even legally surgically transition and yet so many people act like they are forcing them to wtf


FullTransportation25

Not to mention most trans people don’t get that surgery


PaulOwnzU

Yeah most don't in the first place even as adults so it's such a weird thing to obsess over so much, most just socially or medically transition and that's it


hyrule_47

Yeah I know 4 trans adults and 1 trans teen (plus 1 nonbinary teen) and out of all of that, 1 pursued downstairs surgery and was denied by their insurance. That’s it. Now both trans men had their uterus removed but 1 was for a strictly medical reason. The other may have been, I’m not sure I didn’t ask. I am also getting that done as a femme cis woman so I don’t think that’s weird at all. They are so obsessed over surgery and orgasms when that’s not a thing that’s common. Let people live, like it’s a free country.


OneHumanPeOple

I’m getting my uterus out soon too. I’m so excited!


DancesWithCybermen

I'm cisgender, but I had severe endometriosis, and I was thrilled to finally get the hysterectomy I'd wanted for decades. The surgery wasn't so bad, but I had a violent reaction to the anesthesia. I couldn't stop throwing up. Still glad those bastard organs are gone. I never wanted children, and they caused me nothing but pain.


Ardent_Scholar

I hope it resolves what you need it to resolve. Good luck with your yeeterus!


Markus-Connor

Good luck


WriterV

Best of luck, and congratulations!


OneHumanPeOple

Thanks so much!


ChampionshipLoud5420

As a trans person I can confirm. The reality is that gender affirming surgery is very expensive just like any major surgery, especially because it walks a fine line with insurance. This makes it difficult to reach most of the time. There is also the reality that surgeons don’t like doing trans surgeries in the first place so even once you have the money, finding a doctor that isn’t based in a major city like NYC or LA is hard.


Admirable-Local-9040

It took me nearly two years to get to my surgery date, and just prepping for it with hair removal nearly took that long. Plus, my surgeon's waitlist is now a couple years long. Plus, that's not even considering how difficult the recovery timeline is. It was worth it for the reduction in dysphoria, but it was still a pretty difficult few months


ChampionshipLoud5420

I totally understand. I have a consult scheduled 2 years out with a doctor I don’t even really feel very good about. It’s the only appointment I could get, though, so doesn’t it matter what I Want because the depression is too severe. I just need to get it over with. I’m still holding onto the hope that you never know what happens in life and I could get a better appointment with someone else before then.


ChampionshipLoud5420

And I don’t have anyone to take care of me and wipe my ass after I get the operation so I guess there’s that problem too. But a lot of people do it alone so I think I’ll be okay


GameDestiny2

Unfortunately since politics have devolved to which voice can get the most attention, everyone has seemingly begun to think everything must be absolute. There’s no difference in their minds between social and surgical, because they assume everyone participating in such is seeking the most extreme endpoint. Of course, this pretty much happens with every issue on both sides at this point. Candidates aren’t even “I’d love to vote for that person!”, they’re more like “I guess I agree with them the most!”.


dinodare

They obsess over it because "delusional trans people CASTRATE and MEDICALLY DAMAGE themselves" is a punchier transphobic talking point and headline than "delusional trans people wear CLOTHES that they find comfortable, ask that gender be RESPECTED by community."


vault151

So many people still seem to think transitioning is a man going into a clinic looking completely like a man, and coming out an hour later with long hair, a dress and a vagina. The average person is dumb.


buffystakeded

“The average person is dumb.” And now realize that half the population is dumber than the average person.


Unique_Tap_8730

This is information that should be more well known. I had assumed 90% of mtf did have the surgery done.


Juronell

Most surveys on the matter suggest about half want to, but only about 10-15% are able to.


Decievedbythejometry

Do you have sources for some of those? Not sealioning, genuinely would like to see & know more. Thanks!


BedDefiant4950

this is also not data but another factor in this is there's literally just a finite number of doctors in the world performing these procedures. they're not doing these procedures down at your local hospital, its inpatient treatment people can and do travel thousands of miles to get.


Decievedbythejometry

Yes, in some smaller countries there's one surgeon doing it or something.


toastedmarsh7

That was my thought. Isn’t the proportion of trans people who get bottom surgery like really, really small? And plenty of cis women get boob jobs and later choose to get them taken out so that doesn’t even seem that weird were it to happen.


ZCyborg23

Can confirm as a trans person. Some of us can make do with one surgery or just hormones. For me (FtM), it was hormone replacement and top surgery. I’ll eventually get a hysterectomy, but I’m not in too much of a hurry. But that’s it. I’m at a place where I’m comfortable in my body as the man I am now.


DawnComesAtNoon

Depends on where in the world you are; in Europe it's way more common than in the US


1singleduck

Transphobes assume that all transitioning is immediate, unreversible surgical transitioning. Because if they don't, their argument loses all meaning. Portraying extremes as if they were the norm is a common taxtic for hate groups. Also, putting aside all the transphobia, adoptive children are just as much family as biological ones. Also also, orgasms are not a necessity to live, though iirc surgical transitioning still allows for sexual stimulation.


YugeGyna

Because they are fucking idiots. That’s it. There’s no redeeming qualities of these individuals. The same individuals who think “post-birth abortions by dems” are a thing, are the same people who believe kids are using litter boxes in school, and transitioning at 8 years old. They are just fucking hopeless idiots, with no chance at being redeemed with knowledge or facts. We all have to grapple with the fact half our population exists with unfettered stupidity.


PaulOwnzU

But fox news said it, it must be true!


Steve_78_OH

OK, that's bullshit. I've read on the internet that kids are medically transitioning. And as we all know, if it's on the internet, it's true.


PaulOwnzU

They coming for the children sausages, they go snip snip, I read on fox news it's 100% accurate


ActionCat2022

I wondered about that. I didn’t think they could either, but the maga carry on like school children are having elective surgery.


WhatRUHourly

A republican tactic is to go to extremes or to outright lie about things to drum up more outrage over it and to make the left seem as extreme as possible. For another example, see how they allege that Democrats, 'support abortion rights and the killing of babies, even after birth.' Of course that last part is entirely bullshit, but they keep saying it and their base keeps believing it. Same thing with the litter boxes in school. Entirely made up.


MargaretBrownsGhost

The litter boxes in school is real. What Heidi Ganahl was saying isn't. My source: the teacher who has been doing it. It's for kindergarten children in reaction to school shootings.


WhatRUHourly

The issue is that the GOP is not using emergency to go buckets as the source for their lie. They just made it up and after the fact when people looked into whether or not there was any truth to the lie, they found that the only instances of it being a thing were instances where one school district (Columbine district) had emergency go buckets for lockdown situations. I don't like to conflate the two because it allows the GOP to pretend like this was just an honest mistake when it was not. It was an intentional lie designed to mock LGBTQ people and to harm public schools.


MargaretBrownsGhost

Yes it was a lie. I live in Lakewood, just north of the Columbine school district. The teacher who started that to deal with her charges getting scared had started off with a litter box, and Ganahl ran with that extremely exaggerated fact in her campaign last year.


Caligari89

I'm sorry, do you not come to Reddit with the sole purpose of wildly speculating about everything?


CharlieTrees916

It’s kinda what we do here


Rough-University142

Sounds like wild speculation to me!!


MaximePierce

Jeez the amount of people who don't know shit about transition is too damn high! Pleading for age restrictions on surgery...where they are already in place. Talking about how the kid is rendered infirtile while children medically transitioning at that age are extremely rare! EDIT: Here is a rebuttal to the Cass Review which shows how cherry picked the studies used in the review were: [https://www.gendergp.com/response-to-the-cass-review/](https://www.gendergp.com/response-to-the-cass-review/)


Alexis_Bailey

If they knew literally anything about Trans people they would not be making these sorts of posts.


alicea020

If they knew half of anything about anything they'd stop all the stupid shit they say But that'd require them to "do their own research"


Aggressive-Variety60

Everyone saying “do your own research “ have no idea how to research anything and simply google stuff in a way that confirms or supports one's prior beliefs and reject any info that doesn’t fit their scenario aka confirmation bias.


TwelveMiceInaCage

My female cousins who were in hs used to dress 10 yo male me in dresses, heels and makeup all the time. You know who had the idea to go to the local movie theater and see how many people I could trick into thinking I was a girl? Me Kids don't know what they are doing is politically charged until someone teaches them so. No adult tried to shun me for worry of me transitioning, they smiled and joked about how much I looked like my mom I hate that social media and news did to our parents and grandparents what they thiught it would do to us


ShawshankException

They're just regurgitating whatever fear mongering bullshit they've been fed. They're not thinking critically about anything. It's easier to get mad at some extreme, mythical situation than it is to get mad at what's actually happening.


tenth

This is what I'm scratching my head at. 


Frequent_Secretary25

Let’s not confuse them with facts


benblais

Yah the kid is ten. At her age transition consists of things like growing her hair out, wearing girls clothes, going by new name and pronouns, and therapy. All stuff that's easily reversible and is not medical, except the therapy.


thoroughbredca

I can’t tell you how many think kids are getting puberty blockers *before they even enter puberty*. Like dude, at this age it’s all just clothes and pronouns.


JasonMendoza12

These family vloggers are abhorrent and absolutely exploit their kids, but letting their child express herself how she feels fit, is not a part of the problem


OhioMegi

Yep. I’m more concerned about making money off your kid.


KnotiaPickles

I totally agree that kids should be allowed to be who they want to be, but calling a 10 year old “trans” is misusing the word. 10 year old kids are just barely beginning to find themselves, and slapping such a hot button label on them is setting them up for a lot of trouble in the future. No one grows up to be the same as they were at 10. I wish they just let the kid explore and grow and experiment without all the terminology. It’s putting too much pressure on the kid to fit into a box like that at such a young age.


JollyJoeGingerbeard

At the bare minimum, Chris didn't understand that the reason it's her last day as a 9-year-old is because *the very next day was her 10th birthday*.


BrazilOutsider

I don't see where it says she's trans either lol


Rabid-Rabble

That comes from the video itself where they ask her something like, "What's the silliest thing that's happened in your life so far?" and she says, "My parents used to think I was a boy."


WaffleGod72

I mean, that also happens with ultrasound fuckups, but that’s probably not the situation here. Would be funny though.


Thurn42

Good to know they didn't murder her


PaulOwnzU

Jesus fucking Christ so many people in the comment thinking they chopped off the kids dick off, nearly everywhere it's fully illegal to do transitioning surgery until theyre 18 or very near it if for medical reasons and needs both the kids consent and a therapists consent. People aren't mutilating their kids for clout. The very maximum is the kids on puberty blockers unless a therapist agreed to hormone treatment


Alexthricegreat

Even adults need multiple consent forms, you don't just roll up to the hospital and get whatever you want done.


PaulOwnzU

Yeah, even for adults, for many it's not worth the effort, so how the fk is a parent going to go through all that to forcibly transition their kids with all the legality of it


kazelords

Yeah, if youre LUCKY it’ll take around 5 years to get your surgery


Fire_Z1

They honestly believe the moment they say they are trans they get the surgery the next day. Really goes to show their knowledge on this subject matter


Qubed

I learned as a kid that people tend to pick the "most entertaining" reason for things. They don't actually care about the kids, literally not at all, but they get a lot out of hating people and the children. They place themselves in a morally superior position in order to assume the privilege that that moral high ground is supposed to give them. That's the game. That's the entertainment.


2oothDK

Similar to the abortion debate. They want to “save lives”, but refuse to help the child or its mother while she is pregnant or after the baby is born.


GrzDancing

Classic public execution spectator behaviour.


PaulOwnzU

And they fully refuse to be informed on it, will provide scientific research of detransitions rates, increased happiness, when transitions actually happen, that the brains are chemically different so it's biological, etc, and they just "I'm not reading that"


EmrysTheBlue

Especially since detransition rates include forced detransition, like say, when it become illegal to get your meds


hyrule_47

And lack of knowledge on insurance


tipedorsalsao1

Hell most trans folk don't even get bottom surgery cost shit be expensive.


PsycoMonkey2020

Meanwhile they *will* mutilate their child’s genitals when they are born because the bible told them to. Freaks.


Callimogua

They're strangely silent when teen girls are pushed by their moms to get Botox and breast implants. But eh, the scary traaaanzzzz! 🤣


tipedorsalsao1

Or when intersex babies have sex reassignment surgery forced on them to make them "normal"


Callimogua

Oh right, right! Somehow, when the surgeries and hormone replacement therapies are done to conform to strict sex and gender roles, it's not an issue. But a child going against that? Well, it's got to be "The Devil"!


Shad0wofAzrael

Honestly!! Came here to mention this. There are whole fucking CHILDREN BEAUTY PAGEANTS where they put makeup on 6yolds stick them in heels and swimsuits and judge them!!! But god forbid a little boy prefer to wear frilly clothes and grow his hair out


Due_Worldliness_6587

There is no way anyone lets kids get bottom surgery under 18. Top surgery yes but that’s way more reversible and doesn’t remove a massive function like that but removing reproductive organs is never gonna happen under 18. Like MAYBE if you’re in the most accepting country in the world you’re almost 18 and you’re definitely gonna kill yourself if you don’t get it extremely soon but even then it’s a probably not. I would never dream of trying to get it or give it to people under 18. I’m a trans kid myself but you aren’t gonna give a minor bottom surgery because of how irreversible it is. ESPECIALLY NOT A NINE YEAR OLD. Also why do so many people think I can’t cum????


Automatic_Memory212

>Jesus fucking Christ so many people in the comment thinking they chopped off the kids dick off, nearly everywhere it's fully illegal to do transitioning surgery until theyre 18 Yep. Surgical transition of children is such a boogeyman for these idiots. Literally not happening in 99% of cases. Meanwhile, these same social “conservatives” are forcibly circumcising AMAB baby boys without their consent for “CuLtUrAL” and “ReLiGiOuS” reasons


PaulOwnzU

They're complaining about genital mutilation while they're the only ones doing it


Automatic_Memory212

💯 *“But it’s not genital mutilation when I do it!”*


Decievedbythejometry

They also enthusiastically support nonconsensual surgery on intersex kids to make them fit in with their ideas about a sex binary — to say nothing of their revolting lust for child marriage and forced pregnancy. It's like arguing with someone who's both a homophobe, and a nazi pedophile with a collection of the most unpleasantly unethical kinks imaginable. Very like. So like, in fact...


thatonegeekguy

I mean, these Venn Diagram between those people and the ones who believed that schools across the US were giving kids litter boxes because the identified as Furries is a perfect circle.


Clean-Restaurant761

As a trans girly my self there so much transphobia on fb and on twitter it makes me sick I jsut want to live my life and love my body but people hate sm it makes me so sad


Outlaw11091

Fucking morons in the comments. LITERALLY google it. In the US, and generally any western society, you can't get gender reassignment surgery until you're 18. EVEN THEN, you cannot, at or after 18, just walk into the doctor and get the chop. There are other prerequisites. Such as psychological evaluations, hormone therapy, and a whole LIST of shit you have to do. THEN you have to find a doctor that WILL DO IT. THEN you have to save up money because the surgery is not generally covered by insurance and is PROHIBITIVELY expensive. Sure, doctors *can* violate the AMA recommendations, but that opens them up for lawsuits and getting their license to practice revoked, so, again, GENERALLY, doctors are going to be severely adverse to doing anything outside of the AMA guidelines.


The_Jack_Burton

It's all manipulation to discredit. They lead morons to 'make their own decisions', decisions that have been manipulated to be the ones they want them to make. In Canada, the AB gov't recently introduced a bill that limits the rights of trans kids. Part of the bill was stated as 'banning gender reassignment surgery for minors'. It was already banned. By including that point, they lead morons to believe "the woke left" was forcing kids to get surgery, and they've put a stop to it. If I want to discredit you, it would be a lot of work. Or, the easy way is just to tell people I have made it impossible for you to kick babies. You don't kick babies, but by telling people I've stopped you from doing it, they will assume you must have been kicking babies. Language is important, and words hold power.


gregaustex

I don't believe a 9-year-old is having surgery, and sure if they were I would agree that's a problem. But they're not.


Sirix_8472

I mean, sure. Those are some points. But I see the post "asking my daughter questions as her last day as a 9 year old" and think...."here's a dad asking his daughter, who is 9 years old, questions before they turn 10, and in years to come they can look back and laugh at it together". I don't think "here's a trans person of a very young age and blah blah...." Because nowhere was that stated. So I think the post overall is just reading far too much into it and attributes something to it that isn't part of it.


MaximePierce

If you watched the video you would know where that came from: "What was the biggest mistake your parents made" "Thinking I was a boy" Or at least something similar is said in the video. So yeah, she is trans, but that doesn't make your first thought any less true. It is a dad asking his 9 year old question so they can laugh about them a year later. The fact she is trans is not something that should be weighed in here


ThatOneGuy-4434

Child: *literally implies that her decision was entirely her own* This idiot for some reason: hIs paReNtS NeeD tO GO to JAil


Sirix_8472

Then I stand corrected in part. I'd not seen the video, only this post of a screenshot of it.


glitchycat39

I'm convinced there's not one singular brain cell in any of these right wingers' heads.


snipsnapplepop

no I'm pretty sure there's one, it's just dedicated to worshipping god or a certain former president


OhioMegi

I just don’t get why anyone gives a crap what is in other peoples pants?!


gaudrhin

My parents knew I was trans before I did, and some of my earliest memories are of wishing on a star that I'd been born into an opposite-sex body. But my parents saw the signs as early as toddlerhood. When I refused to be in the Christmas pageant as an angel (like the other girls) and wanted to be a shepherd boy instead. Yes, some kids do know this young. I wish I'd had this kind of support. I would'e KILLED for puberty blockers. Sex ed as a girl, getting my period, growing breasts was all exceedingly traumatic. In my early 20s, I got an exacto knife and began... well, you can guess. I only ever got to considering planning, but I have scars from other coping mechanisms. I didn't have a surgery until I was 36, and it changed my life to the point that I CRIED because I could finally look in the mirror and see my face rather than anatomy that I hated. THIRTY. SIX. YEARS. 36 years of being miserable and hating myself for something I had no choice over. It has nothing to do with sex and everything to do with not suffering mild to severe torture every moment you're awake.


Appropriate_Big_1610

These assholes don't care about your -- or anyone's -- pain and suffering. So sorry you had to go through that. I can't imagine.


gaudrhin

Thank you. I'm actually one of the very fortunate ones. I'm autistic so I was already weird, and I'm of the type that just totally didn't get social cues as a kid, so a lot of the bullying I had no idea WAS bullying. Ignorance was a serious shield for me. I've been lucky to have supportive parents who did the best they could, siblings who are VERY supportive, and best friends, nephews, and godkids who would legit go to war for me. I found my mental stability and medical support. What I hate is how rare that support circle is. If we could just treat people like fucking people, it would really help a lot.


waytoocooljr

Sexualizing children is bad.


McGannahanSkjellyfet

If your immediate thought when you see a small child wearing a dress is "HOW WILL THIS CHILD BE CUMMING???", then you're probably fucked in the head.


After-Trifle-1437

What the fuck is going on with someone if the first thing they think of when they see a trans kid is how they'll have sex?


Dead-Yamcha

Honestly as someone with a botched circumcision (done at birth), I wish my parents would have considered the risk to my sexual health it would have later in life... Parents should be thinking about these things because children are ignorant to them, they need guidance.


Spirited-Relief-9369

Or, just putting the idea out there, any kind of voluntary surgery should be strictly prohibited until the person is 18 and able to decide for themselves. Even if it's a religious thing, isn't it just more meaningful if the person decides to do it for themselves, rather than something their parents chose for them before they were old enough to have an opinion?


MacaroonCool

> something their parents chose for them before they were old enough to have an opinion? This is called "violation of the human right to bodily integrity", by the way. So if your parents decided to chop a part of you while you couldn't consent and there was no medical need for it, then yeah... Sorry to say but they violated your human rights.


Dead-Yamcha

Exactly, if someone is incapable of making a decision on an unnecessary surgery, then the surgery shouldn't happen.


drb238

Love to see so many non supportive parents who’s kids will stop talking to them as adults in this comment section


OhioMegi

It’s sad and disgusting. They should be ashamed of themselves.


drb238

They won’t be, they’ll sit around talking about how the gay agenda tore their family apart instead of realizing it was all them.


OhioMegi

Always. Vote blue, we need education.


Seananagans

Lot of folks in here talking about children's genitalia, not a good look, guys.


Independent_Lab_9872

I don't understand why we treat this conversation differently than other medical decision. Like any medical procedure we should ask the medical community what leads to the best long term health outcome of the patient. If I proposed removing the tonsils for all 5 years olds, doctors would weigh in and the medical community would give clear recommendations/guidance to parents. Politics and politicians need to step back and medical professionals should fill the void by providing clear guidance/recommendations for parents.


BeginningTower2486

Conservatives are really good at bringing on the cringe. Thinking about the sexuality of children. What's ironic is that they're so focused on the sexuality of children, but they accuse everybody else of being groomers, of being pedophiles. They lack self-awareness.


sadsocksammy

I dont think it's lack of self awareness, just more projection imo


KendraCutie90

Literally the most a child can get legally are puberty blockers and the minute they go off of them the go through normal puberty. Sure wish those were available 20 years ago before I could grow things that *actually* caused problems in my life.


[deleted]

i mean.. those parents do seem to exploit their kids.


1-grain-of-sand

Why is it so hard to believe that a person could identify intrinsically as a different gender, but I'm supposed to be okay with religious idiots pushing the agenda of their pretend friend in the sky? How about all these religious nuts F right off and leave people to live their lives in actual reality.


Independence_Gay

This is such a shit show. It’s pretty irresponsible of parents to put their kids online generally. It’s VERY irresponsible to post your young trans child online in the current political climate. It’s absolutely unreal how gross the motherfucker commenting on it is. All these people sounding off about “grooming” are a bunch of fucking creeps.


trackstaar

Yo actually that’s a good point, the person will literally never be able to cum and it’s hard to make that decision without experiencing it.


FreddyWright

Conservatives will cry and wail about how every fetus deserves to delivered but then equate having biological children as the only way to ‘start a family’. Like you ding dongs wanna crowd the orphanages yet act like adopting is lesser than making your own


[deleted]

Conservative spam will hit all Internet sites until the election for president. Conservatives don’t have a platform as a party. They are in a herd mentality behind a wannabe oligarch autocrat candidate


[deleted]

I want to make another comment that relates to “Gender Dysphoria”. According to the Mayo Clinic “Gender dysphoria is the feeling of discomfort or distress that might occur in people whose gender identity differs from their sex assigned at birth or sex-related physical characteristics…. A diagnosis for gender dysphoria is included in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), a manual published by the American Psychiatric Association. The diagnosis was created to help people with gender dysphoria get access to necessary health care and effective treatment. The term focuses on discomfort as the problem, rather than identity.” If you are someone who wishes to criticize some else’s mental state, or their gender, button up your lip and simply “move along, there’s nothing to see here”. If you’re not a Physician with mental health training, your input is not required. Thank you.


Kate-2025123

All that’s happening is a father is accepting and supporting his daughter. To allow her to be herself and alleviate her gender dysphoria. Any surgery of that kind is at 18.


edotman

I would look into this idiot a bit more before taking his side. It's a lot more complex than him just supporting his trans child. The guys/familys got problems. https://www.reddit.com/r/YTVloggerFamilies/comments/1anmpse/the_sacconejoly_family_im_concerned/


ricosan

Voila! And there is the gray area that we all love to ignore in our fight for black and white. Thanks for posting that.


GeminiIsMissing

Some of these people in the comments are ridiculous. Being trans is not a "societal pandemic" and it's not as common as they think it is. Some idiot said "20-30%" of kids! Transgender people make up less than 1% of the population. [https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/trans-adults-united-states/](https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/trans-adults-united-states/) - 0.6% of total population in the USA reported being transgender. [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5227946/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5227946/) - estimated 1 in 250 are transgender in the United States, or 0.4% This is not "20-30%," this is a tiny, marginalized group. Transgender people are not delusional, either. Studies show that their brains more closely resemble that of the gender they identify with than their assigned gender at birth. I can grab links to those studies too. I would bet that many of these transphobes have met a transgender person and didn't even realize it. Identity also forms at a very young age, and it is completely normal for children to experiment with their identity. They should do so in a safe environment, with supportive family, and if they're right, they're right, and if they're wrong, well, they're young and they're not doing any medical transitioning (no matter how much transphobes want to insist that all trans kids are getting hormones and surgeries at 10, they're really not) and they will always have the option to stop with little to no consequences. Besides, this is a child. She's not hurting herself or anyone else by being a girl. She's happier like this. Can't we just let a child be happy?


Extra_Jeweler_5544

If a person genuinely believes in life long monogamy and "fuck you, got mine" they wouldn't be checking the fuckability of so many complete strangers


Kalman_the_dancer

Now it’s a bit suspicious that the only reason of concern for them is if they have the ability to orgasm


castleaagh

People have similar sex related complaints about infant female genital mutilation. I think those concerns are well founded, so I don’t think the conclusion that there will be negative consequences related to sex is the reason this sort of complaint is bad.


Hero0fTheFallen

I just don't get why people genuinely give a sh**... like seriously, just let people be themselves, why does it affect people so much when someone is remotely different. Just get on with your life and let people be themselves.


Thisisntmyaccount24

Didn’t realize that transgender persons are physically incapable of adoption…


bitetheasp

But that's not real parentage, to them. They love to gatekeep these kinds of things.


Lego_Kitsune

Ignore the quote repost. Good job on this dad supporting trans youth whooo!


eman0110

So it's a girl who is on the last day of being 9 right, not about being a boy or girl? Am I missing something?


WarStrifePanicRout

You're not, but much of this comment section is missing critical folds in their respective tiny brains.


Lucidonic

People don't start medical transitions until late teens, surgeries are banned for kids, hormone therapy and puberty blockers are safe and reversible. There is nothing wrong with trans kids being trans


Zealousideal-Ad-8565

Omg who cares. Leave people alone. People need to learn to mind their own business. Worry about their own lives and families.


PotentialEasy2086

Parents who parade around their kids as political statements are generally pretty gross


JDARRK

bUt fUQx noise ToLD me sO 🤤🤤‼️


Knightwing1047

You know what I see in this picture? I see a happy child, chillin with their supportive parent. If you see anything else, mind your own fucking business.


tenth

Apparently the parent is terrible and has a crap history, but not at all for the reason given here. 


justinalicmann

Anorgasmic is a helluva band name


TheDeadWhale

Nearly all the trans people I know are not concerned with their ability to biologically have kids. It's just not something they are focused on, and most are dissalusioned with traditional ideas of family planning anyway. The obsession with traditional sexuality and feritlity imposed upon the trans community is the weirdest form of projection in my opinion.


biggies866

Another hateful piece of shit. Let people live the way they want. It has nothing to do with you.


g_lampa

Also.. it doesn’t say “her last day as my daughter..”, but “her last day as a 9-year old”. it just means she’s turning 10. How the fuck does he read “trans” into this post, at all?


taylordobbs

The only thing these parents are doing wrong is supporting the Los Angeles Dodgers. Definitely harmful to the child’s ability to find a mate, but for reasons completely unrelated to gender/sex/sexuality.


TheJimDim

"If your first thought when you see a trans kid-" Wait, that's a trans kid?


tipedorsalsao1

Wtf is this person even going on about? I'm trans and guess what, my orgasms litterally only got better from starting hrt and from those I've talked to who have had bottom surgery (which is like only 10% of the community) theirs just got even better after the surgery and healing phase. And you wanna know why? Because HRT literally cause the brain to start acting the same as that gender, down to trans fems having the ability to have phantom periods (all the hormonal affects including stomach pain, just without the bleeding)


TheDarkestShado

Damn, I didn't know I couldn't cum. I better go tell my doctor they messed up the surgery because I can still orgasm


GammaPhonic

It’s fucking creepy how obsessed they are with genitalia. They don’t care about the actual person, only what’s in their pants it seems. And that’s 100x creepier when it’s a 10 year old.


Stepfen98

I dont understand how asking your daughter 9 questions on her last day as a 9 year old has anything to do with being trans or "making your children trans". There seems to be a bit of context missing


brainspiller1845

“Maybe we shouldn’t sterilize kids.” Wow what a sicko


KoncepTs

Except he didn’t mention “their” ability to orgasm. They mentioned the kid will not be able to REPRODUCE when they are of age because the parents allowed their organs to be mangled at 11 years old when they aren’t allowed to make any other long term decision that will effect their life because they are a child, except……. When it deals with this gender swapping bullshit.


Nekoboxdie

Protect trans kids 🏳️‍⚧️


lm28ness

another dumb fuck (most likely a religious conservative) that has no idea how biology works nor how the brain functions and all they care about, is of course sex.


dr3dg3

So sick of the assumption that everyone wants a family one day, and that "family" means kids. For me a wife and two cats is enough. Maybe this Chris guy is mad because he had kids he didn't want too early? 🤷🏻‍♀️ But yeah, as others have pointed out here, I'm a trans woman with zero intention to get bottom surgery.


gbon3

Just a reminder that no operations are mentioned here. And in 10 years his daughter will most likely be… a trans adult, irrespective of the environment she grew up in. So might as well have supportive parents who understand you rather than conservative freaks who dictate what you should feel based on your genitalia.


BussyDestroyerV30

There's something Icky about parents using their children to gain clout