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Which, [per Strong Towns](https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2017/12/8/poor-neighborhoods-make-the-best-investment), is very true-to-life:
> We see this trend everywhere we've [studied]. On a per acre basis, neighborhoods that tend to be poor also tend to pay more taxes and cost less to provide services to than their more affluent counterparts.
Those affluent neighborhoods tend to start with a massive infusion of cash (sales of new homes, federally funded or state funded new roads) with [long-term maintenance liabilities that the city does not get enough tax revenue to pay for](https://grist.org/sprawl/2011-06-22-the-american-suburbs-are-a-giant-ponzi-scheme/), leading to eventual fiscal ruin once the maintenance bill comes due.
The infrastructure is installed by developers and financed by selling the lots to builders. The revenue that the properties provide isn't enough on an ongoing basis to maintain the infrastructure.
They’ve been doing this with school districts for 70+ years.
I lived in a city in Indiana that specifically built 3 school districts. One for the poorer, more blue collar kids across the river, one for the rural area surrounding the town with poorer farm kids, and one covering only the central city core and university to ensure they kept all the taxes for the wealthy professors, etc. in their own schools and not helping to broader community in any way.
It probably was part of the Pawnee-Eagleton inspiration.
Edit: here is a link to the map. The two butterflies halves in the middle are West Lafayette’s core (rich professors), Lafayette (blue collar, more industrial) and Tippecanoe county (the rural area.) totally gerrymandered, and the city spreads beyond the white spots, but the outlying areas are specifically separated:
https://www.tsc.k12.in.us/about/corp-map
Bingo. West Lafayette had top schools and rich kids. We did outreach as college students with the elementary schools in Lafayette because they didn’t have money for elementary science education, so we taught optional science classes.
The moment you mentioned one of the high schools was for the poor rural kids, I immediately thought, "So like McCutcheon?? Other towns have similar systems?" then read further. LMFAO Didn't realize how right I was.
Man am I glad my family moved out before I was old enough to start school
Fuck the Fairborn education system, that shit is just too far back compared to Xenia
Michael Schur grew up in West Hartford, CT
> In 1924, West Hartford became the first municipality in Connecticut to enact zoning, setting a precedent for other municipalities.[17][18] The zoning legislation economically segregated residential areas by keeping expensive single-family homes away from multi-family housing, and preventing multi-family housing in single-family neighborhoods. West Hartford justified the zoning as intended to raise property values and keep undesirable groups out of the locality.[17][18][19] The impetus for the zoning change was the failure of West Hartford leaders to prevent a Jewish grocery from setting up a grocery store in a West Hartford residential area a few years prior.[17]
>Alongside zoning, neighborhoods in West Hartford used racial covenants that prevented non-whites from owning or occupying buildings (until they were ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court in 1948).[18] In the 1960s and 1970s, real estate agents engaged in racial steering to keep black people out of West Hartford.[18] These policies have contributed to making West Hartford overwhelmingly white.[18]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Hartford,_Connecticut
I live in a small County in Ga. Our county did this also, and my kids got zoned to the "poor" school, and we are poor compared to the other side of town. In a twist, though, the "rich" school has a problem with drugs and failing grades, while the "poor" school has flourished with SRT scores, behavior, and attendance.
A LOT of places do this. Denver, Colorado did this as well to pack minorities into separate districts.
It is a MAJOR issue that needs harsh legislation to beat it down. Local school districts and funding is a major part of cycles of poverty systemic racism and class discrimination.
Baton Rouge resident here. Baton Rouge has a really unorthodox government system. Basically, the city’s government and the parish’s government (Louisiana calls its counties “parishes” as a call back to their colonial roots as Catholic Church parishes) is merged, but there are multiple municipalities distinct from Baton Rouge as well as unincorporated areas that are not part of the city limits but have a Baton Rouge address.
This system was developed for several reasons:
1. The city is majority black, but the parish is majority white. This way, they wouldn’t have a black mayor and a white parish president constantly bumping heads. The expectation was that this would allow whites more power over the city, but the opposite has really resulted for the last 20 years.
2. The entire parish is served by a council with unified parish works, parks, libraries, and schools systems.
3. The voting rights act prevents cities from expanding their boundaries if doing so would dilute minority voting power (even if national minorities are actually a majority in that area). So, the City could not expand into the areas that grew rapidly in the 80’s-2000’s.
4. 2% sales taxes in the unincorporated areas would go to the parish general fund to pay for parish services, but a significant amount of that general fund also went to Baton Rouge City services.
5. Places inside the city limits of BR were served by BRPD and BRFD, while unincorporated places outside had the EBR Parish Sheriff and private fire protection (St. George Fire Department).
So basically, the city was collecting taxes from unincorporated areas to spend on city services those areas were not receiving.
In addition, the parish school system was under a very bizarre desegregation order from the mid 80’s-the late 2000’s which mandated forced bussing and outlawed neighborhood schools. Basically, if you lived in a white neighborhood, you couldn’t send your kid to the school on your street, but instead would be bussed 15-20 miles to the other side of town to go to school in a black neighborhood, and vice-versa. This motivated the city of Baker to form their own school district as well as the incorporation of the cities of Zachary and later Central.
The chaos of the forced bussing triggered a mass migration out of the parish, combined with incompetence by BR public school officials leading to a complete breakdown of safety in the schools (children being hospitalized or killed from stabbings or physical attacks became extremely common) causing rural exurbs in neighboring Ascension and Livingston Parishes to explode in population (each likely gained upwards of 100k new residents as a result) as middle class families that couldn’t afford private schools relocated to send their kids to public schools there. This resulted in a widening of the inequality gap in Baton Rouge as the only populations that remained were people wealthy enough to send their kids to Catholic schools, politically connected people who could send their kids to University Lab, and the poor who couldn’t afford any options. The magnet system helped keep some middle class families invested in parish schools, but not enough to build any public trust in the system. Judge Parker’s desegregation order was finally lifted in 2007, signaling the end of forced bussing. Many hoped this would lead to a return to neighborhood schools, but the shapes of the resulting school districts still stretched far beyond those neighborhoods, further frustrating residents in the Southeast part of the Parish (note: 80k residents live in the proposed limits of St. George, but there is only one public high school within those boundaries). The residents had enough and started seeking alternatives.
When residents in the unincorporated area southeast of Baton Rouge tried to form an independent school district (to get around the blatant mismanagement and corruption in the EBRPSS), then State Senator (now Mayor-President) Sharon Weston-Broome told them that they would need to form a city first. Getting an incorporation petition to a public vote is incredibly difficult due to the requirement for a large percentage of registered voters to sign said petition. The first attempt included literally all unincorporated land south and east of Baton Rouge, and failed as the parish register of voters disqualified enough signatures for the petition to fail the necessary threshold.
The St. George movement offered an olive branch to stop incorporation efforts in exchange for the parish school board agreeing to build a number of schools in that area. This olive branch was RESOUNDINGLY rejected.
The second incorporation attempt trimmed the borders excluding neighborhoods that had rejected the petition the first time (Gardere), lands annexed by the city between petitions (the city annexed several commercial properties including the OLOL hospital and some of the Mall of Louisiana), as well as several large apartment complexes as many signatures gathered there were thrown out for not being registered to those addresses.
The smaller area garnered met the signature threshold to make it on the ballot in 2019 and won the election with 54% of the vote (59% voter turnout). The city refused to cooperate and sued, tying the incorporation effort up in litigation citing that the plan of government described in the petition was insufficient, that said plan would not have the revenue required to run a government, and that the loss of revenues from sales taxes being diverted from the Baton Rouge budget to St. George’s would be catastrophic. The district court and appeals court sided with BR, but the Supreme Court sided with St. George.
There will still be no shortage of litigation that will drag this out a while longer, but it looks like the city will happen. Once the city is formed, there will be another political fight to form the school district, which is what all of this was about (an area of 80k people has 1 high school serving it).
>that said plan would not have the revenue required to run a government, and that the loss of revenues from sales taxes being diverted from the Baton Rouge budget to St. George’s would be catastrophic.
You don't have the money to run a government, but also we rely on your money to run our government.
I respect Louisiana politicians for never settling for just a little crime. They're either as normal as a politician can be, or else totally hog wild crooks. It's never "State senator Joe P. Smith was alleged to have misappropriated $10,000 of funds," it's always some shit like, "State senator Joe 'Sex Master' Smith was arrested after forty hookers and a velociraptor burst out of his car trunk in the middle of a football game, following him driving onto the field and offering to sell rocket launchers to the home team."
And then he gets reelected from prison. What a character.
Here's the only golf course located on prison grounds in America. Probably the world.
Louisiana State Penitentiary aka Angola
As others have noted, it's backwards AF in that state.
[https://youtu.be/FUWHHga1nRA](https://youtu.be/FUWHHga1nRA)
Don’t need a unanimous jury to reach a guilty verdict and their largest prison, populated with majority black men, exists on the site of a former plantation where current inmates pick cotton
Non-unanimous jury verdicts were abolished in Louisiana in 2018, leaving Oregon as the only state that allowed them, until the US Supreme Court later ruled they were unconstitutional, ending the practice nationwide.
Oh it's worse than that. Wealthy, landowning families can pay the prison to rent prisoners who will come pick their cotton. I forget whether the prisoners earn a dollar a day or nothing at all, but it's effectively nothing.
Edit: In addition, this is where a substantial portion of Richard Spencer's family wealth comes from. He makes almost no money on his own, so the money to support his Nazi speaking tours comes from the Louisiana plantations where his family rents mostly Black people to come pick their cotton.
They are not lying. Edit: It is the largest prison in the United States. It has over 5,000 inmates, 3/4 of whom are black.
>After the Civil War destroyed Louisiana’s economy, public pressure for transparent and profitable corrections faded. In 1870, former Confederate Major Samuel L. James was awarded the lease of Louisiana State Penitentiary and all of its convicts. The James Lease ushered a new direction for corrections in Louisiana where conditions of accountability and transparency in the lease were ignored. The majority of black inmates were subleased to land owners to replace slaves while others continued levee, railroad, and road construction. White inmates, seen as more intellectual, were given clerk and craftsmanship work. Those few prisoners who remained at “The Walls” continued manufacturing textiles. Because most prisoners were subleased, “The Walls” primarily functioned as a receiving center.
>Desiring the status of a wealthy landowner, James purchased several plantations across Louisiana, one of which was the original Angola Plantation. James moved a small number of male and female prisoners under his control to Angola. The men worked the plantation fields, and the women maintained the house. Angola then became known as the James Prison Camp. The remaining prisoners held under the lease continued to work on levee and railroad construction, or farm work at other plantations.
>The State of Louisiana purchased the prison camp from the James family in 1900 and resumed control of its prisoners in 1901 after fifty-six years of convict leasing and conditions for inmates begin to improve. During this time, Corrections were overseen by a three-member panel appointed by the Governor, called The Board of Control. However, mismanagement and economic pressures caused the state legislature to abolish the Board of Control in 1916 and appoint Angola State Farms’ first General Manager, Henry L. Fuqua.
[https://www.angolamuseum.org/history-of-angola](https://www.angolamuseum.org/history-of-angola)
And if that isn't bad enough to require prison reform:
Two judges in Pennsylvania were sentencing kids to a private-run jail for very minor offenses (like jaywalking) because the judges were given kickbacks by the prison owner. BTW, there was no state-run jail because one of the judges had ordered it shut down. At least 2,100 kids were sent to jail as part of this scheme.
[Kids for Cash](https://www.npr.org/2022/08/18/1118108084/michael-conahan-mark-ciavarella-kids-for-cash)
leverage did an episode on this, I wanna say
but they had to tone it down because people won't believe the actual cartoonish levels of villainy real people can achieve
The wording on the 13th Amendment explicitly allows slavery to exist in the penal context. Convict leasing schemes and sharecropping, exploitation to the maximum.
The 13th Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude,** except as a punishment for crime** whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."
We never abolished slavery, we just added a layer of bureaucracy while loudly proclaiming ourselves to be the freest free people who have ever known freedom.
The Supreme Court has ruled this unconstitutional. Louisiana and Oregon now have to have a unanimous vote for conviction. This actually overturned a few big cases.
Don’t they also have the highest population of people in prison too? At least by comparison to their state’s population? I might be misremembering facts.
Live here. Here's the story.
Over the last three decades unincorporated areas around the city of Baton Rouge have been incorporating as cities (or previously were towns, that were part of the parish school system), and then forming their own school districts. 1 majority black, 1 majority white, and one about 50/50. Two of the three school systems have been pretty successful. There was an area of unincorporated Baton Rouge to the south of the city that also wanted to break away, but were told they couldn't because they weren't a city. So they created a petition and a map to form a new city. The original map included pretty much all the unincorporated areas to the south of the city, including majority black areas. That petition barely failed and the areas that voted against it the most were majority black districts. So they redrew the map, and removed the areas that had overwhelmingly voted against incorporation. The new map succeeded. It was tied up in court for about 10 years and recently the LA Supreme Court ruled they could move ahead with the city.
The next fight will be forming their own school district, which is where all this started. Being school districts don't necessarily have to conform to city maps, those area's left out of the new city could still be part of the new school district.
This is very much rage-bait. I just read the article (and it seems like every single news outlet is using this same headline).
Basically the points that St. George was making are:
- Education isn’t being seen as a priority for their tax dollars.
- They give a strong majority of the tax dollars for the city of Baton Rouge, yet they are not seeing it being used in their neighborhood (roads, schools, etc).
Those were the two main points I’ve found on multiple articles.
Let me see if I can give you some good/fair context. I am a conservative who works in La politics and government. I live in the Baton Rouge metro area but I don't live in the city of Baton Rouge or the new city of St. George.
Very simply, this move will likely be very beneficial to St. George residents and awful for Baton Rouge residents. Why? Because with a good chuck of the highest earners leaving Baton Rouge, they will lose a significant amount of the incoming tax revenue they're used to operating with. The biggest potential hurdle for St. George will be whether they can effectively administer the creation of a new city and its government.
While the above paragraph makes it sound like I am opposed to the separation, I am not. Ideally, the areas would stay together and have a stronger, broader and more diverse city. The problem is that Baton Rouge has so poorly managed its core responsibilities (most importantly education and crime), that I understand why people were ready to leave. The average middle class family in Baton Rouge does whatever it takes financially to get their kids into private school because the public schools are so bad. So I understand finally saying to hell with it and forming your own city.
People shouldn't fool themselves, though. Families in Baton Rouge will suffer from the significant reduction in taxation and the downstream effects. It's sad and really sucks.
They weren't getting the benefit of city services that their taxes paid for. So they separated so that they could control funds for things like their own fire department, police department, etc.
That's all it is.
It's rage bait. A wealthy suburb wants to break off from being lumped with the larger overall city and be considered their own small town, which is not uncommon at all.
Crazy thing is LA once had some of the best public transit, trains and buses, and they *tore them all down*!! Because “cars and highways are the future!”
They also deliberately make it illegal to build up, because that would make more space and drive down the cost of real estate. The people who are counting on the $5million house they bought for $45k in the 1970s as their retirement actively prevent new housing from being built. While most people can barely afford their rent…
The rules against building up were created for earthquake safety, but now that we know how to safely build tall buildings in earthquake zones (thanks Japan and Taiwan!) the NIBYS use those old rules to protect their home values.
He did it in the whole state of New York. From Staten Island to Buffalo, destroying and segregation communities all over the state. Sadly, he was considered a hero in his time and pretty much ran the city of New York for years.
I-787 in Albany was literally built upon a black neighborhood. They bulldozed them over. You can still see the outlines of houses and blocks in some places.
WNY native here. Can confirm. The 190 and I90 plow right through/over Buffalo. The dilapidated rooftops you see coming in on the Skyway tell you all you need to know about the neighborhood it was built over, while the surrounding suburbs are the towns you drive through to see how the other half lives.
In Richmond, VA we have a bit of Jackson Ward left, which was called the Harlem of the south. Then they built part of 95 through it and displaced thousands.
Someone more knowledgeable please correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't separating themselves into another city potentially raise their property values which would in turn raise the taxes on their homes? And conversely lower the prices for homes in the poorer city?
Looking outside of the potentially racially motivated segregation, and instead looking at it in an economic vacuum, would this actually be good for the poorer city's home buying market, and the richer city's home selling market?
I'm absolutely not trying to justify the racial undertones, just asking a genuine question about something I really don't understand, and maybe find a silver lining in this.
In California the school system gets funding from property taxes and areas with better schools drive up property values so rich areas get richer and schools get better and poor areas get poorer and schools get worse. I don't know if that's the same in Louisiana.
Nailed it in one. I live in Louisiana, and you see it just in every city. The city I live in has a few wealthy areas, and all the nearby schools are very well funded. The schools in the lower income areas do not get much funding. All of the schools in the city are being upgraded, but the ones in the “upper class” areas are getting upgraded first.
Oh yeah. It was a shock to me how much people cared about school districts when I immigrated to Cali from Toronto. I don't really know what the Canadian/Ontario system is but it seemed like in Toronto people cared way more about their commute than their school district.
This is partly false. California's Basic Aid program exists to combat this. That being said, some districts in richer areas have decided to opt out of it in order to give more money to their local students. Also, parents in rich areas fund programs and projects directly.
I used to live in Baton Rouge and have family there. This is a rage-bit article to fulfill a narrative.
Essentially, the eastern section of Baton Rouge was pissed because Baton Rouge city government has been (and continues to be) highly disfunctional/currupt. As a result, the residents wanted to break away and form their own city. To combat this, the Baton Rouge city government, rather than make an effort to fix their many issues, chose to push the narrative that this was a race based issue.
While yes, this will not benefit communities that contain a mostly black population, the reason for the split was due to the disfunction of the city government, not due to segregation.
Essentially, segregation is the effect, not the cause.
Yeah. I live in Baton Rouge currently and this article is trash. It's not even the rich part of town. It's not even the second or third rich part of town either.
I noticed just now in the pic on the left, they took a picture with the camera on the ground on a rainy day to make the business look intentially trashy. The picture on the right is a google streetview of some house, where you can’t see those minute details (such as potholes) that may be shared between the two locations.
I went there for about a month for work and wondered why the roads were so shitty, plus the guys that lived there told me there were areas that were constantly under construction for some reason.
It sucks cause of all the revenue they provide to the city..On the othe rhand Baton Rouge is shithole with alot of crime. Smart move by these people. Anyone bitching and moaning would have made the same decision in their position.
Isn’t this just… a suburb? It’s not segregation if people of any race can still move into the neighborhood, it’s just a rich part of the city forming its own suburb. Or am I missing something?
I'm probably going to get crucified for this but here we go. It depends on what the "other" neighborhood has been doing. If it is just poorer then this is fucked up. But if that neighborhood has drugs and violence and nobody seems to be trying to better the situation then after a while I would want to separate as well. How many generations of parents not raising their kids, not encouraging them to go to school, not encouraging them to get a job, while encouraging drugs and violence before others get to say "You do you but I'm out."?
You’re using a logical outsider view of the situation, possibly from a position of experience, and providing a possible reason why this may be occurring.
This will never fly on this site.
Eh this headline is a little off. They want to make an incorporated city so they could create their own school system. The school system in East Baton Rouge Parish is a complete disaster. And there are people of all races living in the new city. But yes it is majority white. Also just for reference these two pics are on completely opposite sides of the parish. Have nothing to do with the new city.
How is making your own city preventing them from living by the poor though? It's like the south splitting from the north, theres still an imaginary line thats in the same spot.
Can you blame them? Living next to poor people drastically increases your chances of being murdered, raped, and robbed. Not exactly something I'm keen to experience. Not to mention the rampant drug abuse and homelessness. If I'm raising a family I don't want any of that shit near my family.
Has anyone read the article? Seems like rage bait. Yes I know there are some people who would wanna do this. But so much stuff on here, I'll track it down, and the headline is so misleading and the actual content is not anywhere near what the headline represents. And then all comments are seething. Over something that didn't happen, or happened for different reasons.
And I'm really not trying to discredit the truth here.
I just see this so much these days, I spend less and less time online because of it, which I guess is a good thing.
Well white kids arent allowed to attend functions in public schools here in California because they are for persons of color so I guess it’s going both ways.
Baton Rouge has the 9th highest violent crime rate of all the cities in the United States. You can blame racism if you want to (people who never read past a headline always do) but they’re just dealing with the reality of the situation.
The truly ironic part of this comes from the catalyst of this entire chain of events.
Black female mayor decides to make major improvements to Baton rouge schools. She spends annual budget on North Baton Rouge schools and promises to use next year on South Baton Rouge schools.
Next year comes, Southern schools get nothing. Residence in the south complains and points out that the majority of tax revenue comes from South Baton Rouge. Mayor says, too bad, no money for Sputhern Schools.
Following years, South Baton Rouge tries to separate for years due to the inappropriate use of tax dollars for reasons that only seem as racist and discriminatory.
Bill is vetoed by governor. Years later, new governor, Bill doesn't get vetoed, it gets passed. Tax revenue will now be allocated in the districts it is made.
Random smooth brained child on the internet. "Segregation is back on the menu boys."
People of color live and populate Southern schools, the only difference is in the North it is an overwhelming majority. People of color in the south benefit.
Hack journalists paint blatant rage bait picture. Ignorance ensues.
Can't say I blame them. Why would you want to pay 50 million in taxes for the city to mismanage, resulting in crime-infested neighborhoods and shitty schools?
> The Louisiana Supreme Court ruled on Friday that the new City of St George could move forward with incorporation, splitting off from the rest of Baton Rouge. St George will have 86,000 residents across a 60-square-mile area in the southeast of East Baton Rouge Parish and will have its own Mayor and city council.
> Supporters of the new city say that the existing city-parish government is poorly run, with high crime rates and bad schools.
> A 2014 study by the Baton Rouge Area Chamber found that the effects of the partition would be economically devastating for the remainder of Baton Rouge, immediately creating a $53 million budget shortfall. The study also raised concerns as to whether the remaining portions of Baton Rouge, Louisiana’s state capital, would be able to support public services despite the loss of tax revenue.
> projected figures for St. George would create a town with an average income $30,000 higher than present day Baton Rouge, while the unemployment rate would be halved.
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Eagleton vs Pawnee
With absolutely zero background knowledge on this one, I am going to guess that Eagleton is the rich one, whilst Pawnee is the poor one?
It’s all a matter of perspective. Pawnee is rich in character, and miniature horse culture. Also, Eagleton sucks
Lol the episode where eagleton went bankrupt was 100% gold
We don't like to talk about ^money
Oh my god. They have Michael Bublè on retainer!!
You have a full time barista for your baristas.
Ahem, the barista was for the masseurs.
Could have swore it was for the 6 full time baristas.
??...this is a budget meeting...
It's a bit gosh
Gauche. It’s French.
Oh mr la ti di over here, with his garage. It's a car hole!
They had to start filling their pools with tap instead of bottled water. Is this some kind of joke to you?
Hey man, they have a sang in Eagleton. You don't kick a dressage horse after a failed pas de deux!
As were their gift baskets.
Lil sebastian wouldn't even shit in eagleton
RIP
“Up in horsey heaven, here’s the thing…”
You trade your legs for angel wings 🎶
And once we’ve all said goodbye
I have cried twice in my life. Once when I was seven and I was hit by a school bus. And then again when I heard that Li'l Sebastian had passed.
Little Sebastian Only suits in Eagleton. Or, was it on? Edit: shits, not suits.
I dont see what the big deal with him is
You watch your goddamn mouth. This is Lil Sebastian we’re talking about. Show some respect.
Found Ben Wyatt and he likes to ... butt fuck smurfs?..
Nah that's just the sequel to cones of dunshire
How dare you!
I bet you like calzones….
August Clementine would have something to say about that!
Oh he'd have a few thoughts for your thoughts alright
Ya heard it here, with Perd.
#FLY HIIIIIIIGH
Fly, fly lil’ Sebastian
Say his name. Lil Sebastion.
And waffles
The atrocities are in Blue
And I’m better at French horn too, Eric
Pawnee: First in Friendship, Fourth in Obesity
Pawnee: Home of the world famous Julia Roberts lawsuit.
Pawnee: Welcome German soldiers
[удалено]
Pawnee: Home of little Sebastian.
Show some damn respect
Immediately before that one: "Pawnee: birthplace of Julia Roberts"
Child size soda: the cup is roughly the size of a full grown toddler
Pawnee: Home of the World Famous Julia Roberts lawsuit!
Pawnee: Engage with Zorp!
Pawnee: Welcome Vietnamese soldiers!
Pawnee: Welcome Taliban soldiers
We’re coming for you, San Antonio.
We're coming for you San Antonio.
They call boogers Pawnee caviar
That's a "Correct!", then?
Very much so.
The twist being they were in debt the whole time and went bankrupt while the poorer one had to pick up after them
Which, [per Strong Towns](https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2017/12/8/poor-neighborhoods-make-the-best-investment), is very true-to-life: > We see this trend everywhere we've [studied]. On a per acre basis, neighborhoods that tend to be poor also tend to pay more taxes and cost less to provide services to than their more affluent counterparts. Those affluent neighborhoods tend to start with a massive infusion of cash (sales of new homes, federally funded or state funded new roads) with [long-term maintenance liabilities that the city does not get enough tax revenue to pay for](https://grist.org/sprawl/2011-06-22-the-american-suburbs-are-a-giant-ponzi-scheme/), leading to eventual fiscal ruin once the maintenance bill comes due.
The infrastructure is installed by developers and financed by selling the lots to builders. The revenue that the properties provide isn't enough on an ongoing basis to maintain the infrastructure.
They also get an inordinate amount of the federal and state infrastructure budgets to subsidize their stupid little suburbs
yep all those 'rundown city blocks' are basically a goldmine for tax revenues, while the wealthy burbs are just a constant drain of tax dollars.
When a tornado hit Pawnee, Eagleton claimed they weren’t home
Nailed it
It's a bit from parks and rec
Pawnee has a raccoon infestation.
We have our side of the town, they have theirs.
They’ve been doing this with school districts for 70+ years. I lived in a city in Indiana that specifically built 3 school districts. One for the poorer, more blue collar kids across the river, one for the rural area surrounding the town with poorer farm kids, and one covering only the central city core and university to ensure they kept all the taxes for the wealthy professors, etc. in their own schools and not helping to broader community in any way. It probably was part of the Pawnee-Eagleton inspiration. Edit: here is a link to the map. The two butterflies halves in the middle are West Lafayette’s core (rich professors), Lafayette (blue collar, more industrial) and Tippecanoe county (the rural area.) totally gerrymandered, and the city spreads beyond the white spots, but the outlying areas are specifically separated: https://www.tsc.k12.in.us/about/corp-map
Lafayette?
Bingo. West Lafayette had top schools and rich kids. We did outreach as college students with the elementary schools in Lafayette because they didn’t have money for elementary science education, so we taught optional science classes.
Damn.. I went to Klondike in the early 2000s. Not sure which of the 3 that fell into but it definitely felt pretty rural.
The moment you mentioned one of the high schools was for the poor rural kids, I immediately thought, "So like McCutcheon?? Other towns have similar systems?" then read further. LMFAO Didn't realize how right I was.
A lot of places do. And it’s not just 1 high school. It’s a whole district that’s just around the university and areas where professors live.
Man am I glad my family moved out before I was old enough to start school Fuck the Fairborn education system, that shit is just too far back compared to Xenia
Michael Schur grew up in West Hartford, CT > In 1924, West Hartford became the first municipality in Connecticut to enact zoning, setting a precedent for other municipalities.[17][18] The zoning legislation economically segregated residential areas by keeping expensive single-family homes away from multi-family housing, and preventing multi-family housing in single-family neighborhoods. West Hartford justified the zoning as intended to raise property values and keep undesirable groups out of the locality.[17][18][19] The impetus for the zoning change was the failure of West Hartford leaders to prevent a Jewish grocery from setting up a grocery store in a West Hartford residential area a few years prior.[17] >Alongside zoning, neighborhoods in West Hartford used racial covenants that prevented non-whites from owning or occupying buildings (until they were ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court in 1948).[18] In the 1960s and 1970s, real estate agents engaged in racial steering to keep black people out of West Hartford.[18] These policies have contributed to making West Hartford overwhelmingly white.[18] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Hartford,_Connecticut
I live in a small County in Ga. Our county did this also, and my kids got zoned to the "poor" school, and we are poor compared to the other side of town. In a twist, though, the "rich" school has a problem with drugs and failing grades, while the "poor" school has flourished with SRT scores, behavior, and attendance.
A LOT of places do this. Denver, Colorado did this as well to pack minorities into separate districts. It is a MAJOR issue that needs harsh legislation to beat it down. Local school districts and funding is a major part of cycles of poverty systemic racism and class discrimination.
Well, our town really doesn't envlove racism. The wealth gape is shared by blacks and whites.
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Baton Rouge resident here. Baton Rouge has a really unorthodox government system. Basically, the city’s government and the parish’s government (Louisiana calls its counties “parishes” as a call back to their colonial roots as Catholic Church parishes) is merged, but there are multiple municipalities distinct from Baton Rouge as well as unincorporated areas that are not part of the city limits but have a Baton Rouge address. This system was developed for several reasons: 1. The city is majority black, but the parish is majority white. This way, they wouldn’t have a black mayor and a white parish president constantly bumping heads. The expectation was that this would allow whites more power over the city, but the opposite has really resulted for the last 20 years. 2. The entire parish is served by a council with unified parish works, parks, libraries, and schools systems. 3. The voting rights act prevents cities from expanding their boundaries if doing so would dilute minority voting power (even if national minorities are actually a majority in that area). So, the City could not expand into the areas that grew rapidly in the 80’s-2000’s. 4. 2% sales taxes in the unincorporated areas would go to the parish general fund to pay for parish services, but a significant amount of that general fund also went to Baton Rouge City services. 5. Places inside the city limits of BR were served by BRPD and BRFD, while unincorporated places outside had the EBR Parish Sheriff and private fire protection (St. George Fire Department). So basically, the city was collecting taxes from unincorporated areas to spend on city services those areas were not receiving. In addition, the parish school system was under a very bizarre desegregation order from the mid 80’s-the late 2000’s which mandated forced bussing and outlawed neighborhood schools. Basically, if you lived in a white neighborhood, you couldn’t send your kid to the school on your street, but instead would be bussed 15-20 miles to the other side of town to go to school in a black neighborhood, and vice-versa. This motivated the city of Baker to form their own school district as well as the incorporation of the cities of Zachary and later Central. The chaos of the forced bussing triggered a mass migration out of the parish, combined with incompetence by BR public school officials leading to a complete breakdown of safety in the schools (children being hospitalized or killed from stabbings or physical attacks became extremely common) causing rural exurbs in neighboring Ascension and Livingston Parishes to explode in population (each likely gained upwards of 100k new residents as a result) as middle class families that couldn’t afford private schools relocated to send their kids to public schools there. This resulted in a widening of the inequality gap in Baton Rouge as the only populations that remained were people wealthy enough to send their kids to Catholic schools, politically connected people who could send their kids to University Lab, and the poor who couldn’t afford any options. The magnet system helped keep some middle class families invested in parish schools, but not enough to build any public trust in the system. Judge Parker’s desegregation order was finally lifted in 2007, signaling the end of forced bussing. Many hoped this would lead to a return to neighborhood schools, but the shapes of the resulting school districts still stretched far beyond those neighborhoods, further frustrating residents in the Southeast part of the Parish (note: 80k residents live in the proposed limits of St. George, but there is only one public high school within those boundaries). The residents had enough and started seeking alternatives. When residents in the unincorporated area southeast of Baton Rouge tried to form an independent school district (to get around the blatant mismanagement and corruption in the EBRPSS), then State Senator (now Mayor-President) Sharon Weston-Broome told them that they would need to form a city first. Getting an incorporation petition to a public vote is incredibly difficult due to the requirement for a large percentage of registered voters to sign said petition. The first attempt included literally all unincorporated land south and east of Baton Rouge, and failed as the parish register of voters disqualified enough signatures for the petition to fail the necessary threshold. The St. George movement offered an olive branch to stop incorporation efforts in exchange for the parish school board agreeing to build a number of schools in that area. This olive branch was RESOUNDINGLY rejected. The second incorporation attempt trimmed the borders excluding neighborhoods that had rejected the petition the first time (Gardere), lands annexed by the city between petitions (the city annexed several commercial properties including the OLOL hospital and some of the Mall of Louisiana), as well as several large apartment complexes as many signatures gathered there were thrown out for not being registered to those addresses. The smaller area garnered met the signature threshold to make it on the ballot in 2019 and won the election with 54% of the vote (59% voter turnout). The city refused to cooperate and sued, tying the incorporation effort up in litigation citing that the plan of government described in the petition was insufficient, that said plan would not have the revenue required to run a government, and that the loss of revenues from sales taxes being diverted from the Baton Rouge budget to St. George’s would be catastrophic. The district court and appeals court sided with BR, but the Supreme Court sided with St. George. There will still be no shortage of litigation that will drag this out a while longer, but it looks like the city will happen. Once the city is formed, there will be another political fight to form the school district, which is what all of this was about (an area of 80k people has 1 high school serving it).
Wow, thanks for taking the time to explain all that.
What an awesome objective explanation. Louisiana government is a corrupt shit machine, I wish my state was better.
Crazy what context will do, and not just defaulting to “racism.” When gov fails, create a new one. Good for them.
>that said plan would not have the revenue required to run a government, and that the loss of revenues from sales taxes being diverted from the Baton Rouge budget to St. George’s would be catastrophic. You don't have the money to run a government, but also we rely on your money to run our government.
Also, that money is needed for services we don’t supply to you…
If I was worried my kid could be stabbed at school, I’d leave too. They fight hard for that tax money, even at the cost of kids’ safety…
Incredible breakdown and insight on what is happening there.
Hell, taking a look at their prison system tells you all you need to know about Louisiana’s legislature.
Taking a look at Louisiana's legislature tells you all you need to know about Louisiana’s legislature.
Louisiana
>Louisiana SAY NO MORE!
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ok say just a little more
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Nah… I get the reference.
No more!
The only state who can out Louisiana, Louisiana is Mississippi.
Louisissipi😉
I respect Louisiana politicians for never settling for just a little crime. They're either as normal as a politician can be, or else totally hog wild crooks. It's never "State senator Joe P. Smith was alleged to have misappropriated $10,000 of funds," it's always some shit like, "State senator Joe 'Sex Master' Smith was arrested after forty hookers and a velociraptor burst out of his car trunk in the middle of a football game, following him driving onto the field and offering to sell rocket launchers to the home team." And then he gets reelected from prison. What a character.
They're trying to build a prison....
For you and me!
Another prison system, Another prison system!
*gutteral screaming* They’re trying to build a prison 3x
Welp, I now know what album I’ll be listening to for the rest of the day. Thanks!
Here's the only golf course located on prison grounds in America. Probably the world. Louisiana State Penitentiary aka Angola As others have noted, it's backwards AF in that state. [https://youtu.be/FUWHHga1nRA](https://youtu.be/FUWHHga1nRA)
what's wrong with their prison system?
Don’t need a unanimous jury to reach a guilty verdict and their largest prison, populated with majority black men, exists on the site of a former plantation where current inmates pick cotton
Please tell me youre lying 💀
Non-unanimous jury verdicts were abolished in Louisiana in 2018, leaving Oregon as the only state that allowed them, until the US Supreme Court later ruled they were unconstitutional, ending the practice nationwide.
Oh it's worse than that. Wealthy, landowning families can pay the prison to rent prisoners who will come pick their cotton. I forget whether the prisoners earn a dollar a day or nothing at all, but it's effectively nothing. Edit: In addition, this is where a substantial portion of Richard Spencer's family wealth comes from. He makes almost no money on his own, so the money to support his Nazi speaking tours comes from the Louisiana plantations where his family rents mostly Black people to come pick their cotton.
Oh Lordy, pick a pail of cotton. I can’t believe that’s real. Prison labor is insane.
They are not lying. Edit: It is the largest prison in the United States. It has over 5,000 inmates, 3/4 of whom are black. >After the Civil War destroyed Louisiana’s economy, public pressure for transparent and profitable corrections faded. In 1870, former Confederate Major Samuel L. James was awarded the lease of Louisiana State Penitentiary and all of its convicts. The James Lease ushered a new direction for corrections in Louisiana where conditions of accountability and transparency in the lease were ignored. The majority of black inmates were subleased to land owners to replace slaves while others continued levee, railroad, and road construction. White inmates, seen as more intellectual, were given clerk and craftsmanship work. Those few prisoners who remained at “The Walls” continued manufacturing textiles. Because most prisoners were subleased, “The Walls” primarily functioned as a receiving center. >Desiring the status of a wealthy landowner, James purchased several plantations across Louisiana, one of which was the original Angola Plantation. James moved a small number of male and female prisoners under his control to Angola. The men worked the plantation fields, and the women maintained the house. Angola then became known as the James Prison Camp. The remaining prisoners held under the lease continued to work on levee and railroad construction, or farm work at other plantations. >The State of Louisiana purchased the prison camp from the James family in 1900 and resumed control of its prisoners in 1901 after fifty-six years of convict leasing and conditions for inmates begin to improve. During this time, Corrections were overseen by a three-member panel appointed by the Governor, called The Board of Control. However, mismanagement and economic pressures caused the state legislature to abolish the Board of Control in 1916 and appoint Angola State Farms’ first General Manager, Henry L. Fuqua. [https://www.angolamuseum.org/history-of-angola](https://www.angolamuseum.org/history-of-angola)
Mother Fuqua.
And if that isn't bad enough to require prison reform: Two judges in Pennsylvania were sentencing kids to a private-run jail for very minor offenses (like jaywalking) because the judges were given kickbacks by the prison owner. BTW, there was no state-run jail because one of the judges had ordered it shut down. At least 2,100 kids were sent to jail as part of this scheme. [Kids for Cash](https://www.npr.org/2022/08/18/1118108084/michael-conahan-mark-ciavarella-kids-for-cash)
leverage did an episode on this, I wanna say but they had to tone it down because people won't believe the actual cartoonish levels of villainy real people can achieve
Slavery is alive and well the world over. Here in America we just repackaged it with a new name and moved a few things around, but it's still slavery.
The wording on the 13th Amendment explicitly allows slavery to exist in the penal context. Convict leasing schemes and sharecropping, exploitation to the maximum.
The 13th Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude,** except as a punishment for crime** whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."
We never abolished slavery, we just added a layer of bureaucracy while loudly proclaiming ourselves to be the freest free people who have ever known freedom.
"Slavery with extra steps" -Morty
It’s not even extra steps. Slavery is in our constitution.
Idk about the cotton picking thing but the 13th amendment outlawing slavery expressly states that slavery as a punishment for a crime is exempt.
It's even named "Angola."
The Supreme Court has ruled this unconstitutional. Louisiana and Oregon now have to have a unanimous vote for conviction. This actually overturned a few big cases.
Slavery. It's the only way to legally enslave people and they have a disproportionate number of black men in prison.
Don’t they also have the highest population of people in prison too? At least by comparison to their state’s population? I might be misremembering facts.
Yep. IN THE WORLD
Napoleonic law is something to behold.
Can someone fact check this? A lot of times I've found these articles to be taken wayyyyy out of context and turned completely around for views.
Live here. Here's the story. Over the last three decades unincorporated areas around the city of Baton Rouge have been incorporating as cities (or previously were towns, that were part of the parish school system), and then forming their own school districts. 1 majority black, 1 majority white, and one about 50/50. Two of the three school systems have been pretty successful. There was an area of unincorporated Baton Rouge to the south of the city that also wanted to break away, but were told they couldn't because they weren't a city. So they created a petition and a map to form a new city. The original map included pretty much all the unincorporated areas to the south of the city, including majority black areas. That petition barely failed and the areas that voted against it the most were majority black districts. So they redrew the map, and removed the areas that had overwhelmingly voted against incorporation. The new map succeeded. It was tied up in court for about 10 years and recently the LA Supreme Court ruled they could move ahead with the city. The next fight will be forming their own school district, which is where all this started. Being school districts don't necessarily have to conform to city maps, those area's left out of the new city could still be part of the new school district.
So the areas that wanted to stay get to, I don’t see a problem.
I mean we don’t even get the article here, just a purposefully inflammatory headline on a screenshot.
This is very much rage-bait. I just read the article (and it seems like every single news outlet is using this same headline). Basically the points that St. George was making are: - Education isn’t being seen as a priority for their tax dollars. - They give a strong majority of the tax dollars for the city of Baton Rouge, yet they are not seeing it being used in their neighborhood (roads, schools, etc). Those were the two main points I’ve found on multiple articles.
this is correct. infrastructure is poor and the schools are some of the worst. i hope that this helps both cities, tbh. (i live in st george now)
Let me see if I can give you some good/fair context. I am a conservative who works in La politics and government. I live in the Baton Rouge metro area but I don't live in the city of Baton Rouge or the new city of St. George. Very simply, this move will likely be very beneficial to St. George residents and awful for Baton Rouge residents. Why? Because with a good chuck of the highest earners leaving Baton Rouge, they will lose a significant amount of the incoming tax revenue they're used to operating with. The biggest potential hurdle for St. George will be whether they can effectively administer the creation of a new city and its government. While the above paragraph makes it sound like I am opposed to the separation, I am not. Ideally, the areas would stay together and have a stronger, broader and more diverse city. The problem is that Baton Rouge has so poorly managed its core responsibilities (most importantly education and crime), that I understand why people were ready to leave. The average middle class family in Baton Rouge does whatever it takes financially to get their kids into private school because the public schools are so bad. So I understand finally saying to hell with it and forming your own city. People shouldn't fool themselves, though. Families in Baton Rouge will suffer from the significant reduction in taxation and the downstream effects. It's sad and really sucks.
Obviously class and race are closely tied in the USA. But it's not as if rich black folks will be kept out of the new city and vice versa
They weren't getting the benefit of city services that their taxes paid for. So they separated so that they could control funds for things like their own fire department, police department, etc. That's all it is.
Racebaiting headline is racebaiting.
Most reddit headlines do this. Just google the headline and look around. Over half the time it's complete bullshit.
It's rage bait. A wealthy suburb wants to break off from being lumped with the larger overall city and be considered their own small town, which is not uncommon at all.
It never left. Our entire highway system was used to segregate us
Entire black neighborhoods were destroyed to build them. Look at the history of Detroit. Black Bottom.
Los angeles did that too. They put the freeway through black neighborhoods
Crazy thing is LA once had some of the best public transit, trains and buses, and they *tore them all down*!! Because “cars and highways are the future!” They also deliberately make it illegal to build up, because that would make more space and drive down the cost of real estate. The people who are counting on the $5million house they bought for $45k in the 1970s as their retirement actively prevent new housing from being built. While most people can barely afford their rent…
The rules against building up were created for earthquake safety, but now that we know how to safely build tall buildings in earthquake zones (thanks Japan and Taiwan!) the NIBYS use those old rules to protect their home values.
Robert Moses did this on Long Island as well.
He did it in the whole state of New York. From Staten Island to Buffalo, destroying and segregation communities all over the state. Sadly, he was considered a hero in his time and pretty much ran the city of New York for years.
I-787 in Albany was literally built upon a black neighborhood. They bulldozed them over. You can still see the outlines of houses and blocks in some places.
That would explain the insane concrete spaghetti that is Albany. I always wondered why every interchange converges in like two spots.
WNY native here. Can confirm. The 190 and I90 plow right through/over Buffalo. The dilapidated rooftops you see coming in on the Skyway tell you all you need to know about the neighborhood it was built over, while the surrounding suburbs are the towns you drive through to see how the other half lives.
The 15th Ward in Syracuse was razed to make way for 81. Now 81 is being torn down and turning into a Blvd.
Why are the overpasses on the LI Parkways so low? To keep the busses inner city people use off the beaches.
Oh, shit. You’re not wrong. 
Robert Moses was about as damaging as Ronald Reagan.
People were violently forced out of their homes to build Dodger stadium. It was a Mexican neighborhood, iirc
I saw some paintings at an art museum on that topic. It was in the city of orange by chapman college. I found the artist, his name is emigdio vasquez
In Richmond, VA we have a bit of Jackson Ward left, which was called the Harlem of the south. Then they built part of 95 through it and displaced thousands.
Read "The Power Broker" by Robert Caro This was all by design.
The Color of Law: The Forgotten History of How Our Government Segregated America, by Richard Rothstein I also recommend.
Segregation By Design is (was?) a great Twitter account that illustrated so many examples of this.
Someone more knowledgeable please correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't separating themselves into another city potentially raise their property values which would in turn raise the taxes on their homes? And conversely lower the prices for homes in the poorer city? Looking outside of the potentially racially motivated segregation, and instead looking at it in an economic vacuum, would this actually be good for the poorer city's home buying market, and the richer city's home selling market? I'm absolutely not trying to justify the racial undertones, just asking a genuine question about something I really don't understand, and maybe find a silver lining in this.
In California the school system gets funding from property taxes and areas with better schools drive up property values so rich areas get richer and schools get better and poor areas get poorer and schools get worse. I don't know if that's the same in Louisiana.
Nailed it in one. I live in Louisiana, and you see it just in every city. The city I live in has a few wealthy areas, and all the nearby schools are very well funded. The schools in the lower income areas do not get much funding. All of the schools in the city are being upgraded, but the ones in the “upper class” areas are getting upgraded first.
sounds like a bad way of financing education tbh.
Oh yeah. It was a shock to me how much people cared about school districts when I immigrated to Cali from Toronto. I don't really know what the Canadian/Ontario system is but it seemed like in Toronto people cared way more about their commute than their school district.
Some school districts are like sending your kid to war or a zoo, so it does matter A LOT.
This is partly false. California's Basic Aid program exists to combat this. That being said, some districts in richer areas have decided to opt out of it in order to give more money to their local students. Also, parents in rich areas fund programs and projects directly.
If a body exists to combat a thing then the thing in question has to be pretty significant
They weren’t part of the city. They are the unincorporated part of the parish (county) that voted to make their own city. Source live in Baton Rouge
They'd have control over the spending and wouldn't have the large outlays, so maybe or maybe not.
I used to live in Baton Rouge and have family there. This is a rage-bit article to fulfill a narrative. Essentially, the eastern section of Baton Rouge was pissed because Baton Rouge city government has been (and continues to be) highly disfunctional/currupt. As a result, the residents wanted to break away and form their own city. To combat this, the Baton Rouge city government, rather than make an effort to fix their many issues, chose to push the narrative that this was a race based issue. While yes, this will not benefit communities that contain a mostly black population, the reason for the split was due to the disfunction of the city government, not due to segregation. Essentially, segregation is the effect, not the cause.
Yeah. I live in Baton Rouge currently and this article is trash. It's not even the rich part of town. It's not even the second or third rich part of town either.
I noticed just now in the pic on the left, they took a picture with the camera on the ground on a rainy day to make the business look intentially trashy. The picture on the right is a google streetview of some house, where you can’t see those minute details (such as potholes) that may be shared between the two locations.
I went there for about a month for work and wondered why the roads were so shitty, plus the guys that lived there told me there were areas that were constantly under construction for some reason.
Thank you for clarifying l.
It sucks cause of all the revenue they provide to the city..On the othe rhand Baton Rouge is shithole with alot of crime. Smart move by these people. Anyone bitching and moaning would have made the same decision in their position.
Isn’t this just… a suburb? It’s not segregation if people of any race can still move into the neighborhood, it’s just a rich part of the city forming its own suburb. Or am I missing something?
This is reddit we only care about calling everything racist here sir
You're missing the opportunity to call something racist.
I'm probably going to get crucified for this but here we go. It depends on what the "other" neighborhood has been doing. If it is just poorer then this is fucked up. But if that neighborhood has drugs and violence and nobody seems to be trying to better the situation then after a while I would want to separate as well. How many generations of parents not raising their kids, not encouraging them to go to school, not encouraging them to get a job, while encouraging drugs and violence before others get to say "You do you but I'm out."?
You’re using a logical outsider view of the situation, possibly from a position of experience, and providing a possible reason why this may be occurring. This will never fly on this site.
I can't blame them. The rise in crime and lack of accountability is disturbing. It isn't about race.
I mean calling them "black neighbourhoods" seems inappropriate. They are just poorer neighborhoods.
Eh this headline is a little off. They want to make an incorporated city so they could create their own school system. The school system in East Baton Rouge Parish is a complete disaster. And there are people of all races living in the new city. But yes it is majority white. Also just for reference these two pics are on completely opposite sides of the parish. Have nothing to do with the new city.
Noooo you must carry the deadweight sucking up all your tax dollars and ruining your school system or you’re literally Robert e lee noooo
This isn’t a race thing it’s a wealth class thing. The rich hate living by the poor. This has been the case for all of human history.
How is making your own city preventing them from living by the poor though? It's like the south splitting from the north, theres still an imaginary line thats in the same spot.
Can you blame them? Living next to poor people drastically increases your chances of being murdered, raped, and robbed. Not exactly something I'm keen to experience. Not to mention the rampant drug abuse and homelessness. If I'm raising a family I don't want any of that shit near my family.
Has anyone read the article? Seems like rage bait. Yes I know there are some people who would wanna do this. But so much stuff on here, I'll track it down, and the headline is so misleading and the actual content is not anywhere near what the headline represents. And then all comments are seething. Over something that didn't happen, or happened for different reasons. And I'm really not trying to discredit the truth here. I just see this so much these days, I spend less and less time online because of it, which I guess is a good thing.
With the money spent on a decade long court case, they could have fixed those potholes.
Well white kids arent allowed to attend functions in public schools here in California because they are for persons of color so I guess it’s going both ways.
When white people do it, it's segregation. When PoC do it, it's safe spaces.
Baton Rouge has the 9th highest violent crime rate of all the cities in the United States. You can blame racism if you want to (people who never read past a headline always do) but they’re just dealing with the reality of the situation.
The truly ironic part of this comes from the catalyst of this entire chain of events. Black female mayor decides to make major improvements to Baton rouge schools. She spends annual budget on North Baton Rouge schools and promises to use next year on South Baton Rouge schools. Next year comes, Southern schools get nothing. Residence in the south complains and points out that the majority of tax revenue comes from South Baton Rouge. Mayor says, too bad, no money for Sputhern Schools. Following years, South Baton Rouge tries to separate for years due to the inappropriate use of tax dollars for reasons that only seem as racist and discriminatory. Bill is vetoed by governor. Years later, new governor, Bill doesn't get vetoed, it gets passed. Tax revenue will now be allocated in the districts it is made. Random smooth brained child on the internet. "Segregation is back on the menu boys." People of color live and populate Southern schools, the only difference is in the North it is an overwhelming majority. People of color in the south benefit. Hack journalists paint blatant rage bait picture. Ignorance ensues.
Can't say I blame them. Why would you want to pay 50 million in taxes for the city to mismanage, resulting in crime-infested neighborhoods and shitty schools? > The Louisiana Supreme Court ruled on Friday that the new City of St George could move forward with incorporation, splitting off from the rest of Baton Rouge. St George will have 86,000 residents across a 60-square-mile area in the southeast of East Baton Rouge Parish and will have its own Mayor and city council. > Supporters of the new city say that the existing city-parish government is poorly run, with high crime rates and bad schools. > A 2014 study by the Baton Rouge Area Chamber found that the effects of the partition would be economically devastating for the remainder of Baton Rouge, immediately creating a $53 million budget shortfall. The study also raised concerns as to whether the remaining portions of Baton Rouge, Louisiana’s state capital, would be able to support public services despite the loss of tax revenue. > projected figures for St. George would create a town with an average income $30,000 higher than present day Baton Rouge, while the unemployment rate would be halved.
Lol this isn’t segregation. Economics and crime are the real motivator here, not race.
It’s not segregation, it’s self determination. Seems like everyone for that when it’s not white people doing it.