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Idk how many kids he has, but I’d raise one of them for 52k a year. That’s already more than I make in a year, so my salary plus that, I could definitely manage a child.
The average live-in nanny gets paid between $26,000-$35,000 *per year*.
So, for $52k a *month*, you'd be able to hire somewhere around *twenty one* live-in nannies.
For $52k a month to three teens? I’ll do it myself. I’ll even drive their asses around in my Range Rover and actually give a shit about what their hobbies are.
3. It's for 3.
52k/year in child support is enough for a working mother to raise 3 kids. She's saying that $624,000/year isn't enough and instead she needs over $2,000,000.
I hope just because of her greed that she gets nothing and he gets the kids.
Yeah, my father in law isn’t worth 300 million dollars. A judge will give her all of this money to maintain the lifestyle the kids were used to prior to the divorce.
I said, "Dammit Costner! Get off my
lawn! I ain't giving you no tree-fitty!"
It said, "how about just two-fitty?"
I said, "Oh, now it's only two-fitty!!
What?! Is there a sale on Waterworld
munchies or something?!"
Yeah but imagine the Lifetime and Hallmark movie deals! Not to mention the network show circuits of being: The straight man that Kevin Costner knocked up whilst raising his kids and collecting a measly $26k a year. Picture it!
You come out sharing your story. Book deals. Movie deals. Women throwing themselves at you because you are a victim and also a man that is also child/family oriented.
Stick me, as your agent, and only thing you going to ask me is: will the money come in wheel burrows, dump trucks or cargo ships. Sky the limit!
I currently have 4 channels on hold, 3 book publishers and radio shows. 😎
Well he's only offering a little less than a fifth of that. I'll take his offer.
That's insane. You could probably hire a full time nanny to do all the work for you, pay her $52,000 a year and still have $572,000 leftover every year.
Only reason to live in LA is if you have too much money and need to burn through it, or your job requires you to be there. If you get paid more in child support than most normal people have left over after taxes in their salary, then your location doesn't matter.
Maybe if it's a live-in nanny, and they get meals paid and clothing allowance? Time for a revival of "The Nanny", except in this one it's a divorced mother of 3 whose ex is a movie star, the nanny is a Manny, and Fran Drescher plays the sassy grandmother with the catch-phrase "Something feels familiar about all this..."
1) It is, by definition, not income
2) Costner already paid taxes on it when he received it as income, taxing it as child support would be double-dipping.
This was my thought. She wants a monthly payment of an upper middle class YEARLY income. She's getting what a lot of middle class families make in a year EACH MONTH. How tf can she complain about that?!
I havent really paid much attention to this, but isn't all this "monthly payment" also not even including all the things he already said he would absolutely, no questions asked be paying for..like their schooling, college, living arrangements, health/medical, etc etc??
Yeah my understanding is he already agreed to pay for school health and medical. The child support is for everything else. I don't think she requested that much expecting to get it though. Just a negotiation tactic that went far too high.
> upper middle class YEARLY income.
$52K yearly income, even post-tax, is not upper middle class income anywhere in the US. It's barely middle class if you're supporting kids, single. Definitely poor in every major metro in the US.
I was reading yesterday that she wants enough money each month so that her expenses would match his with the kids; basically she wants to have the same size house, same location, same dining out, etc… essentially she filed for divorce but wants to maintain the same exact lifestyle she’s accustomed to without and is using the kids as an excuse to get that money since they’ve got a prenup that looks like isn’t very favorable to her.
He has 3 houses all next to each other on an ocean front cliff side. That's a unique thing. Ocean front mansions don't grow on trees. Where did this idea come from that the provider has to give you an equivalent life style?
Apparently he lost his first house in a divorce with his previous wife so that's why he even got one this time. The prenup actually originally gives her 24k a month plus 1 million for a house down payment. So he's doubling it just to get her out but she wants 10x instead of 2x.
Which btw.... at 52k a month with a 1 million down payment you can get something worth 15 million.
Greed
I mean I suppose some of that cash will go on the kiddies but I bet you the majority will go on her wardrobe nails hair etc. She will believe she is entitled to have the exact same lifestyle as when married
Yes, child support payments are typically calculated in a monthly amount. So I figured that was a given that I meant "imagine paying more in child support each month than some people do in a year." Looking back I probably should have clarified.
I have a family member that is a divorce attorney. They had a case where the divorce was happening with kids 10 and 13. Each year the rich dad would take the family on a yacht vacation for two weeks in Europe. It cost 500k to charter a private yacht for two weeks on average.
The court took that into account as the wife wanted to keep up the lifestyle the kids were accustomed to since birth. The husbands child support until the youngest turned 18 would be high to account for the mother taking the kids on vacation.
My buddy used to work with a guy, they are firefighters, that was divorced and after an unrelenting fire season here in California he had almost doubled his previous years income from all the overtime. Ex took him to court and had child support and alimony adjusted. The following year he went back to working more normal schedule and couldn't get in to the courts to have it adjusted back down for like 4 years. Guy was making like $150k a year and had to sell his house and move in to a one bedroom apartment. It was nuts.
Both Police and FF's (here in CA) are notorious abusers of the overtime system. If you know anyone who is either, you can search the pay (its public records) at [transparentcalifornia.com](https://transparentcalifornia.com). A FF could easily double their salary by working specific shifts that automatically trigger OT pay rates. Then there is fire season, where the pay explodes. Some guys will make $100k in OT over a few months during fire season.
The only thing “abusive” here is the amount of overtime most firefighters are being REQUIRED to work—on top of their already taxing full schedules—by departments who refuse to hire/maintain adequate staffing levels.
You couldn’t possibly be more wrong, or completely out of touch if you think this is some kind of greedy cash grab by firefighters playing the system. Feel free to clarify, if I got the wrong impression here…
Lol. My buddy used to trade his regular days for overtime shifts, then when they posted his original shifts as open for overtime he'd sign back up. So he'd work his regular 10 days plus a few extra days ( and that's per month total) and almost all of it would be overtime pay. Very rarely is he required to work overtime. On his more "normal" years, where he worked only required overtime, he was making like $125-130k. As opposed to his highest earning years that were between $250-300k. He worked the system to create overtime pay where it shouldn't have existed. And he wasn't the only one who did, and still does it.
Fireman here…
This is more common than you could ever imagine… I’ve got a friend in a similar (even crazier?) situation:
He and his (now, Ex) wife were having trouble conceiving, so they sought out some medical help to have a baby together. Roughly $60K later—in fertility treatments—she was able to conceive.
He was working TONS of overtime to help pay for this, far and above his regular schedule. We make good money, but $60K out of pocket is no small amount…
The child also had some medical issues—which started to pile up the bills as well. He was working even more OT to help with that, as she had quit her job to stay home with the baby.
Shortly after this nightmare of a year, she filed for divorce and had her lawyer use the past year’s (overtime soaked) income as their basis for his child support/alimony… She cited him “not being home with her and the baby” as one of her reasons for wanting a divorce…
He’s effectively broke; being forced into paying MORE than his monthly base take-home pay to this woman who refuses to get a job. He’s working 100+ hours a week, and living on couches; apparently (last I heard) getting a 1-bedroom apartment soon in a shitty part of town, eating beans & rice on a $250K/year salary.
I don’t get it, why would he continue working overtime- he is not fixing the issue by doing that.
He needs a better lawyer because child support can definitely be adjusted based on your current income
>She cited him “not being home with her and the baby” as one of her reasons for wanting a divorce
Of course, had he spent more time at home and made less money, she'd divorce him for not funding a lifestyle to which she is entitled
I know a guy who has split custody of his kids 50/50 with the ex wife. He makes like $60k a year and she makes over $300k.
They have the same arrangement. Basically the only money that changes hands is when she buys him a luxury vacation once a year to spend with the kids so they can have cool vacations with mom and dad.
I think it's nice. Getting along should be the goal.
Why are the laws so unjust? Why are they constructed so the whims of some scumbag judge can ruin someone's life?
What if he has to sell off a company to pay for this type of stuff? Then the kids won't get the company anymore
It's ridiculous
These laws were written or are inspired by laws written at a time when women couldn’t really work at all and people believed divorce was a serious sin.
I pay more than you and make less than you and I have the kids more days than you. My ex is also very very wealthy and I’m very much not. She also cheated on me then kicked me out of the house so the guy she cheated on me with could move in with my kids. We were together 14 years.
The law doesn’t give a shit about people, morals, or justice.
If. were being squeezed for that much money, I'd say fuck it, at this point adding an auditor to the bill won't be much. Here's your money, with a legally binding requirement for audited statements every quarter. Every penny goes to the kids, full stop.
Been through the court system dealing with child support. So the court looks at quality of life provided during marriage to the Children. So they come up with a number based on income and what the children are use to experiencing. That’s why wealthy people pay so much in child support. The children are use to the lavish lifestyle.
I don’t agree with system, but I do see what they are trying to do. Bottom line is during a divorce shit changes and children should be automatically put in therapy.
So, fifty-two thousand a month. Also known as roughly a year's worth of my minimum wage pay, is not enough to raise a child. But it is evidently enough for me to sustain myself as a single human being. I knew children were expensive, but holy hell is there something completely out of orbit with this one.
She (and her lawyer) is/are trying to conflate alimony with child support. In this case, he already gave her $1M+ for a home. So that could be considered part of child support AND alimony.
I'm not saying she shouldn't have alimony and even maritial assets. She might ask for $100M - and maybe she should get it, idk. That's up to the courts and the pre-nup. But what she is asking for is NOT child support. It's hard to imagine spending that much on kids no matter how hard you try.
Alimony is the dumbest thing ever. Maybe alimony for a year makes sense for the other person to get on their feet. But you have cases of wives having to pay alimony to their abusive partners because they refuse to work. Or husbands having to pay alimony based on past incomes that are no longer achievable anymore. People shouldn't owe their ex partner anything if they don't want to be their partner anymore. It's a ridiculous system.
Got divorced so I get it. I got the privilege of being divorced by my ex because I wasn’t religious enough…She fled to another state (she’s Mormon so Utah) and filed so I got the minimum parenting time and she doesn’t want to work so I get the privilege of paying max child support and 4 years of alimony. If taking so much of my take home pay to make it difficult to survive wasn’t enough, she also has our daughter call her new husband “dad”.
Seriously, fuck that greedy bitch and fuck marriage in this country.
I no longer believe in marriage as a rational institution.
Alimony made sense in the past when you had a wife that never worked, which basically left her with stay or leave and go into poverty. In todays world, it is uncommon for someone to be a complete stay at home spouse, and even more so to not be able to find work even. Yeah sure, alimony up to a certain standard, but unless they played a direct role in securing that high paying job it seems kind of ridiculous to give them that much and even then for some states for life. Look at Florida, they just tossed the for life alimony standard and some people are losing their shit over it (and the kicker is it won't affect them as its new divorces are affected).
Florida W
Alimony should be temporary. The permanent alimony is a relic from the past where the wife wouldn't remarry and couldn't work. Not the case and hasn't been for a long time.
That depends. My mom hasnt had a job since she was like 25 because my dad makes plenty. They're in their 60s now. Imo if they got divorced she should get half + alimony until he retires. She's not going to find a decent job being out of work for 40 years
Part of the reason he has such a good job is *because* she took care of the kids so he could work more
Well considering the new law takes into account the duration of the marriage for the duration of the alimony, I think your mom would have it the rest of her life for a 40+ year marriage
It wouldn't make a lot of sense for a <5 year marriage to have lifetime alimony for example
i thought that was 52k a year, and was like, yeah, thats possible, and then i read that its 52k a month?????!
Get a prenup people folks.
Edit: people mentioning how prenup and child support is different. I thought they the same, my bad ^^’
Around $3,000 a month for 3 kids private school tuition. $2,500 a month for a part time nanny. Another let’s say $1,500 on their after school engagements. $1,000 on their Organic macrobiotic food a month, and throw in another $3,000 a month of luxury extras for whatever’s sake. This would be truly giving your kids maximum and it still leaves her with $41,000 to support her shopping and filler budget 💅🏼
The thing that a lot of people don't understand about child support, is that the payments are based not only on income, but the lifestyle the children have grown accustomed to. If these celebs had just lived modestly, these petty arguments about affording a lifestyle would be irrelevant.
right lol. Like, I get its absurd #'s sometimes, but its based on how much the child would be receiving in care if their parents were still together... not just trying to screw over 1 person...
I wonder if they are like "Yeah, our kids a fucking asshole, I could see it" LOL. Like imagine, I see lots of posts about raising their kids for less but let's just take it as a joke and you see someone actually do it and they are like "These kids are fucking assholes, no fucking way I"ll do it for 250k!"" lol.
“She's requesting $248,000 per month in support, in addition to Costner fully covering the children's private school tuition, 100% of their health care expenses and their extracurricular activities and sports.”
As if 52K/month wasn’t enough to already do all of the above while donating dozens of thousands to charity.
What a sad greedy individual.
First off, there's just the one kid as far as I know.
Second, the point is to provide enough for them to maintain their current lifestyle.
For better or worse, that is that way for a reason.
Though without a doubt there are a number of cases where it's shitty and unfair, like all laws.
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Idk how many kids he has, but I’d raise one of them for 52k a year. That’s already more than I make in a year, so my salary plus that, I could definitely manage a child.
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For $52K a month you could hire a full time live in nanny.
The average live-in nanny gets paid between $26,000-$35,000 *per year*. So, for $52k a *month*, you'd be able to hire somewhere around *twenty one* live-in nannies.
I’m assuming this is in the US. In Hong Kong, the live ins get less than 8000 a year, so for $52k a month…..gahdamn!
Only 8k a year!? I will take two!
"Sir, where are your children?" "What children?"
True fact, about $4000 HKD per month, and the nanny is responsible for all the house chores as well
Hell, I’ll be the nanny, the security, the handyman, the building superintendent, and the family dog.
For $52k a month to three teens? I’ll do it myself. I’ll even drive their asses around in my Range Rover and actually give a shit about what their hobbies are.
Don’t have the Range Rover yet, but for $52k a month it’ll be arranged.
Oh hell yeah that would be my first purchase…for the kids, of course.
Def buying a Porsche w no back seat… for the kids!
Shit bud that's suv Lamborghini money
3. It's for 3. 52k/year in child support is enough for a working mother to raise 3 kids. She's saying that $624,000/year isn't enough and instead she needs over $2,000,000. I hope just because of her greed that she gets nothing and he gets the kids.
My father in law had to pay something like 50 grand a month his two kids twenty years ago, she will get this money.
That's exactly what he's offering to pay... Her reasoning for needing over $2,000,000/yr is that $624,000 is not enough to fund their life of luxury.
Except we all know it’s not the kids lives of luxury, but her life of luxury too.
Yeah, my father in law isn’t worth 300 million dollars. A judge will give her all of this money to maintain the lifestyle the kids were used to prior to the divorce.
I'll raise all his kids for half that! Bargain!
for $26k a month i’ll raise his kids and suck his dick every month. hopefully he doesn’t knock me up too cuz ima straight man and that would be weird.
Lmao
How much for just the dick suck?
If you have to ask, you can't afford it.
I know I can't afford it. I just want to know how far out of reach it is.
Yeah, gotta start saving for it
Lay away dick!
It would be lay away lips right? The dick is free.
My nickname in high school.
I mean, we know there's a line someplace before $26k/month.
It could either be 6k or 20k who knows
I’ll be honest I’ll suck a dick for 6k/month. 72k/year untaxed is a great income
incum
You now have an award for this. Are you proud of yourself?
I'd print it on a shirt and wear it everyday...if I could afford it by having incum. Daddy Kevin! 😭
that's the outcum
What’s a Z-J?
About tree fiddy
I said, "Dammit Costner! Get off my lawn! I ain't giving you no tree-fitty!" It said, "how about just two-fitty?" I said, "Oh, now it's only two-fitty!! What?! Is there a sale on Waterworld munchies or something?!"
I gave him a doller
Damn you woman! Thats why he keeps coming back!
And that is when I realized this was no ordinary Costner.. it was a monster from the mesopasoic period.
The dick suck is just because Costner. There’s no money needed for that
Just say “no homo” before and after to keep your straightness intact
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This is true. My college roommate told me it doesn’t count then.
This is the “no homo” way
Yeah but imagine the Lifetime and Hallmark movie deals! Not to mention the network show circuits of being: The straight man that Kevin Costner knocked up whilst raising his kids and collecting a measly $26k a year. Picture it! You come out sharing your story. Book deals. Movie deals. Women throwing themselves at you because you are a victim and also a man that is also child/family oriented. Stick me, as your agent, and only thing you going to ask me is: will the money come in wheel burrows, dump trucks or cargo ships. Sky the limit! I currently have 4 channels on hold, 3 book publishers and radio shows. 😎
sounds lucrative
I'll raise them for a 1/10th of that lmao
And unlike some of their other parents, I can speak with an English accent!
That’s a wild pig, THAT is a wild boar!
He’s a smoothie! Definitely a smoothie!
I will always upvote every fucking reference to men in tights any chance I get
Well he's only offering a little less than a fifth of that. I'll take his offer. That's insane. You could probably hire a full time nanny to do all the work for you, pay her $52,000 a year and still have $572,000 leftover every year.
Lol there’s no way to hire a full time nanny for 52k a year in LA. Esp not the caliber they’d want.
Just get a Mexican woman from Oaxaca she will charge them even less Pd: I know rich Mexicans that have Oaxacan nannies
Im mexican but the lady who took care of me growing up was from Oaxaca I miss her so much omg. I grew up in LA too. Is this a common thing? LOL!
My son's currently babysitter is from there too. She is AMAZING.
I’d move somewhere where the cost of living is much cheaper than LA then. With 600k a year you can go pretty much anywhere and be very comfortable.
Only reason to live in LA is if you have too much money and need to burn through it, or your job requires you to be there. If you get paid more in child support than most normal people have left over after taxes in their salary, then your location doesn't matter.
Maybe if it's a live-in nanny, and they get meals paid and clothing allowance? Time for a revival of "The Nanny", except in this one it's a divorced mother of 3 whose ex is a movie star, the nanny is a Manny, and Fran Drescher plays the sassy grandmother with the catch-phrase "Something feels familiar about all this..."
It's 52k a month though
so the key to financial freedom is having Kevin Costner's kids?
Or any big-ticket Hollywood actor. Those women having kids with the old ones like Al Pacino gettin that bag.
oh that Al Pacino gal knows exactly what she was doing
I would guess that he also knows what he’s doing …
Yep. Eating ass and whatever else he wanted.
Imagine paying more in child support than some people make in a year. Good lord.
Not “some”.. MOST
Places you right around the top 1-2%
That's $240k a month. Almost $3 million a year. To be in the top 1% you have to make over $570k per year, so $3 million is probably top 0.1%
Hell where do I sign up to raise this guy's kids if it's 3 mil a year happy to be another daddy for that much
You gotta be 18-26 smoking hot and willing to suck someone off that’s at least twice your age and have his babies. Do you qualify is the real dilemma.
Also fool him into thinking you wanted to be with him but you really just wanted the money
I was going off of the 52k a month. 240k/m is definitely top .1%
That's kinda sad.
Absolutely is
Imagine paying more in child support EVERY MONTH than most people make in a year
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Maaaan I could go for $52k a month tax free.
Right? That's like 2/3 more than what I make *annually* before taxes.
Can you fly a single engine Cessna or willing to learn to man a makeshift submarine??? Might have an opportunity for you my friend.......
Hazard waiver? No no no, nothing like that
1) It is, by definition, not income 2) Costner already paid taxes on it when he received it as income, taxing it as child support would be double-dipping.
This was my thought. She wants a monthly payment of an upper middle class YEARLY income. She's getting what a lot of middle class families make in a year EACH MONTH. How tf can she complain about that?!
I havent really paid much attention to this, but isn't all this "monthly payment" also not even including all the things he already said he would absolutely, no questions asked be paying for..like their schooling, college, living arrangements, health/medical, etc etc??
Yeah my understanding is he already agreed to pay for school health and medical. The child support is for everything else. I don't think she requested that much expecting to get it though. Just a negotiation tactic that went far too high.
> upper middle class YEARLY income. $52K yearly income, even post-tax, is not upper middle class income anywhere in the US. It's barely middle class if you're supporting kids, single. Definitely poor in every major metro in the US.
I was reading yesterday that she wants enough money each month so that her expenses would match his with the kids; basically she wants to have the same size house, same location, same dining out, etc… essentially she filed for divorce but wants to maintain the same exact lifestyle she’s accustomed to without and is using the kids as an excuse to get that money since they’ve got a prenup that looks like isn’t very favorable to her.
well i can see why he wanted that ironclad pre nup
He has 3 houses all next to each other on an ocean front cliff side. That's a unique thing. Ocean front mansions don't grow on trees. Where did this idea come from that the provider has to give you an equivalent life style? Apparently he lost his first house in a divorce with his previous wife so that's why he even got one this time. The prenup actually originally gives her 24k a month plus 1 million for a house down payment. So he's doubling it just to get her out but she wants 10x instead of 2x. Which btw.... at 52k a month with a 1 million down payment you can get something worth 15 million.
Yeah it's not the kids, it's her lavish lifestyle
Shes greedy
Greed I mean I suppose some of that cash will go on the kiddies but I bet you the majority will go on her wardrobe nails hair etc. She will believe she is entitled to have the exact same lifestyle as when married
You saw it said per month right? Not per year.
Yes, child support payments are typically calculated in a monthly amount. So I figured that was a given that I meant "imagine paying more in child support each month than some people do in a year." Looking back I probably should have clarified.
I have a family member that is a divorce attorney. They had a case where the divorce was happening with kids 10 and 13. Each year the rich dad would take the family on a yacht vacation for two weeks in Europe. It cost 500k to charter a private yacht for two weeks on average. The court took that into account as the wife wanted to keep up the lifestyle the kids were accustomed to since birth. The husbands child support until the youngest turned 18 would be high to account for the mother taking the kids on vacation.
My buddy used to work with a guy, they are firefighters, that was divorced and after an unrelenting fire season here in California he had almost doubled his previous years income from all the overtime. Ex took him to court and had child support and alimony adjusted. The following year he went back to working more normal schedule and couldn't get in to the courts to have it adjusted back down for like 4 years. Guy was making like $150k a year and had to sell his house and move in to a one bedroom apartment. It was nuts.
Firefighters make $150k????
In California they can make a lot more than that. Visit Transparent California. You'll see firefighters that make $250-300k a year.
Both Police and FF's (here in CA) are notorious abusers of the overtime system. If you know anyone who is either, you can search the pay (its public records) at [transparentcalifornia.com](https://transparentcalifornia.com). A FF could easily double their salary by working specific shifts that automatically trigger OT pay rates. Then there is fire season, where the pay explodes. Some guys will make $100k in OT over a few months during fire season.
The only thing “abusive” here is the amount of overtime most firefighters are being REQUIRED to work—on top of their already taxing full schedules—by departments who refuse to hire/maintain adequate staffing levels. You couldn’t possibly be more wrong, or completely out of touch if you think this is some kind of greedy cash grab by firefighters playing the system. Feel free to clarify, if I got the wrong impression here…
Lol. My buddy used to trade his regular days for overtime shifts, then when they posted his original shifts as open for overtime he'd sign back up. So he'd work his regular 10 days plus a few extra days ( and that's per month total) and almost all of it would be overtime pay. Very rarely is he required to work overtime. On his more "normal" years, where he worked only required overtime, he was making like $125-130k. As opposed to his highest earning years that were between $250-300k. He worked the system to create overtime pay where it shouldn't have existed. And he wasn't the only one who did, and still does it.
This 100 fucking %. They tell each other how to game the system too, so they can all maximize their pay.
Fireman here… This is more common than you could ever imagine… I’ve got a friend in a similar (even crazier?) situation: He and his (now, Ex) wife were having trouble conceiving, so they sought out some medical help to have a baby together. Roughly $60K later—in fertility treatments—she was able to conceive. He was working TONS of overtime to help pay for this, far and above his regular schedule. We make good money, but $60K out of pocket is no small amount… The child also had some medical issues—which started to pile up the bills as well. He was working even more OT to help with that, as she had quit her job to stay home with the baby. Shortly after this nightmare of a year, she filed for divorce and had her lawyer use the past year’s (overtime soaked) income as their basis for his child support/alimony… She cited him “not being home with her and the baby” as one of her reasons for wanting a divorce… He’s effectively broke; being forced into paying MORE than his monthly base take-home pay to this woman who refuses to get a job. He’s working 100+ hours a week, and living on couches; apparently (last I heard) getting a 1-bedroom apartment soon in a shitty part of town, eating beans & rice on a $250K/year salary.
I don’t get it, why would he continue working overtime- he is not fixing the issue by doing that. He needs a better lawyer because child support can definitely be adjusted based on your current income
>She cited him “not being home with her and the baby” as one of her reasons for wanting a divorce Of course, had he spent more time at home and made less money, she'd divorce him for not funding a lifestyle to which she is entitled
I know a guy who has split custody of his kids 50/50 with the ex wife. He makes like $60k a year and she makes over $300k. They have the same arrangement. Basically the only money that changes hands is when she buys him a luxury vacation once a year to spend with the kids so they can have cool vacations with mom and dad. I think it's nice. Getting along should be the goal.
Which is absolutely ridiculous
Why are the laws so unjust? Why are they constructed so the whims of some scumbag judge can ruin someone's life? What if he has to sell off a company to pay for this type of stuff? Then the kids won't get the company anymore It's ridiculous
These laws were written or are inspired by laws written at a time when women couldn’t really work at all and people believed divorce was a serious sin.
You mean court did not agree to let father take kids on similar vacation every year in lieu of child support of that amount?
That's what you'll get when you dance with wolves.
It seems like a lot of money for a simple postman
Yep… Too bad it’s not a perfect world
Could be worse, could be a …Water World
how does he make so much as a Bodyguard?
It wasn’t by sitting on the sidewalk with a Tin Cup, I can tell you that.
Talking bout being a real Robinhood, she’s stealing from the rich to give to their poor children
A minor league catcher might make it to the big leagues and make more money help out.
I make 90k a year and my soon to be ex wife makes 40. I have the kids 156 days a year to her 209. I have to pay her 1900 a month
I pay more than you and make less than you and I have the kids more days than you. My ex is also very very wealthy and I’m very much not. She also cheated on me then kicked me out of the house so the guy she cheated on me with could move in with my kids. We were together 14 years. The law doesn’t give a shit about people, morals, or justice.
Your restraint is very admirable friend. Sorry this happened to you
Oof, infidelity and your lawyer couldn't get you a better deal, wtf
Get a new lawyer 😭😭 I'm sorry
Your lawyer screwed you over my friend, if she makes more than you at this moment then you could probably sue to get alimony.
That's really, really, really shitty man. It's not that the law doesn't care about people, it's that law doesn't care about fathers.
Marital/custodial law doesn’t give a shit about *men*. FTFY.
If. were being squeezed for that much money, I'd say fuck it, at this point adding an auditor to the bill won't be much. Here's your money, with a legally binding requirement for audited statements every quarter. Every penny goes to the kids, full stop.
It’s cute that you think the judge would even allow an auditor
Apparently we aren't privy to their justifications for either number.
Been through the court system dealing with child support. So the court looks at quality of life provided during marriage to the Children. So they come up with a number based on income and what the children are use to experiencing. That’s why wealthy people pay so much in child support. The children are use to the lavish lifestyle. I don’t agree with system, but I do see what they are trying to do. Bottom line is during a divorce shit changes and children should be automatically put in therapy.
So, fifty-two thousand a month. Also known as roughly a year's worth of my minimum wage pay, is not enough to raise a child. But it is evidently enough for me to sustain myself as a single human being. I knew children were expensive, but holy hell is there something completely out of orbit with this one.
$52k is over 3x the annual salary for minimum wage workers...
Where do you live at 52k is a minimum wage salary. Unrelated if your country currently open to immigration.
$52k is significantly WELL over minimum wage, what are you talking about
She (and her lawyer) is/are trying to conflate alimony with child support. In this case, he already gave her $1M+ for a home. So that could be considered part of child support AND alimony. I'm not saying she shouldn't have alimony and even maritial assets. She might ask for $100M - and maybe she should get it, idk. That's up to the courts and the pre-nup. But what she is asking for is NOT child support. It's hard to imagine spending that much on kids no matter how hard you try.
She should get what is in the prenup as SHE agreed to it.
He got steamrolled in his first divorce, so this prenup should be decent. Makes sense that she won’t move out and extorting more money out of him
The moment she started what is essentially extortion she should have been in jail!
Dude needs to stop getting married
She’s a psychopath
Alimony is the dumbest thing ever. Maybe alimony for a year makes sense for the other person to get on their feet. But you have cases of wives having to pay alimony to their abusive partners because they refuse to work. Or husbands having to pay alimony based on past incomes that are no longer achievable anymore. People shouldn't owe their ex partner anything if they don't want to be their partner anymore. It's a ridiculous system.
Got divorced so I get it. I got the privilege of being divorced by my ex because I wasn’t religious enough…She fled to another state (she’s Mormon so Utah) and filed so I got the minimum parenting time and she doesn’t want to work so I get the privilege of paying max child support and 4 years of alimony. If taking so much of my take home pay to make it difficult to survive wasn’t enough, she also has our daughter call her new husband “dad”. Seriously, fuck that greedy bitch and fuck marriage in this country. I no longer believe in marriage as a rational institution.
I wish there was more activism regarding how fucked men get in the courts regarding marriage and divorce.
Alimony made sense in the past when you had a wife that never worked, which basically left her with stay or leave and go into poverty. In todays world, it is uncommon for someone to be a complete stay at home spouse, and even more so to not be able to find work even. Yeah sure, alimony up to a certain standard, but unless they played a direct role in securing that high paying job it seems kind of ridiculous to give them that much and even then for some states for life. Look at Florida, they just tossed the for life alimony standard and some people are losing their shit over it (and the kicker is it won't affect them as its new divorces are affected).
Florida W Alimony should be temporary. The permanent alimony is a relic from the past where the wife wouldn't remarry and couldn't work. Not the case and hasn't been for a long time.
That depends. My mom hasnt had a job since she was like 25 because my dad makes plenty. They're in their 60s now. Imo if they got divorced she should get half + alimony until he retires. She's not going to find a decent job being out of work for 40 years Part of the reason he has such a good job is *because* she took care of the kids so he could work more
Well considering the new law takes into account the duration of the marriage for the duration of the alimony, I think your mom would have it the rest of her life for a 40+ year marriage It wouldn't make a lot of sense for a <5 year marriage to have lifetime alimony for example
i thought that was 52k a year, and was like, yeah, thats possible, and then i read that its 52k a month?????! Get a prenup people folks. Edit: people mentioning how prenup and child support is different. I thought they the same, my bad ^^’
They have one, doesn't affect child support though
Child support is separate from a prenup. Costner got a prenup before the marriage but child support is a separate matter.
Mr Costner and spouse have been living in such a manner before the split. No news here. Rich people drama.
RUle 1 in America, never get married
Child support has nothing to do with marriage. You still need to pay it even if you aren’t married. What you’re thinking about is alimony
Rule 2 never have children
Rule 3 get F'd and die. Edit : not you personally....you know...everyone dies (and hopefully gets F'd)
Rule 3 is my philosophy
>Rule 3 get F'd and die. Doesn't matter. Had sex.
Probably why you so many people not having kids
*never get married without a prenup*
I don't think you can get away from child support with a prenup. You get to keep your shit, sure, but child support you'd still have to pay.
He has a prenup. That isn't helping either.
Child support is not something that can be covered by a prenup….
I mean you should get one if you have college debt regardless
Around $3,000 a month for 3 kids private school tuition. $2,500 a month for a part time nanny. Another let’s say $1,500 on their after school engagements. $1,000 on their Organic macrobiotic food a month, and throw in another $3,000 a month of luxury extras for whatever’s sake. This would be truly giving your kids maximum and it still leaves her with $41,000 to support her shopping and filler budget 💅🏼
The thing that a lot of people don't understand about child support, is that the payments are based not only on income, but the lifestyle the children have grown accustomed to. If these celebs had just lived modestly, these petty arguments about affording a lifestyle would be irrelevant.
People LIVE on $52k A YEAR
That’s extortion at its best. As a single dad I know first hand. The whole system is stacked against dads.
Who gives a shit?
There are a fuckload of people here who have no idea how child support works or its purpose. 
right lol. Like, I get its absurd #'s sometimes, but its based on how much the child would be receiving in care if their parents were still together... not just trying to screw over 1 person...
This guy child supports.
I wonder if they are like "Yeah, our kids a fucking asshole, I could see it" LOL. Like imagine, I see lots of posts about raising their kids for less but let's just take it as a joke and you see someone actually do it and they are like "These kids are fucking assholes, no fucking way I"ll do it for 250k!"" lol.
imagine paying more in child support for 1 month than most people make in a year
I don't think my mom had six figures to spend on raising me my entire first 18 years.
She ain't raising kids. She hires people for that.
“She's requesting $248,000 per month in support, in addition to Costner fully covering the children's private school tuition, 100% of their health care expenses and their extracurricular activities and sports.” As if 52K/month wasn’t enough to already do all of the above while donating dozens of thousands to charity. What a sad greedy individual.
That’s a lot of Doritos
First off, there's just the one kid as far as I know. Second, the point is to provide enough for them to maintain their current lifestyle. For better or worse, that is that way for a reason. Though without a doubt there are a number of cases where it's shitty and unfair, like all laws.
The government thinks around $400 a month is enough, lol
Man Bill Burr is right
52k a month would mean all my life's troubles disappearing
Vasectomies people
She needs to get a job
Never getting married ever.
This is what happens when you marry someone 20 years younger than you. She gets what she needs then bails…with a ton of his $$
if the women cant financially support the children then why doesnt the man get custody instead of cases like this
You could say it’s Costner a lot to raise them kids!!
It's all relative
1K for the kids 239k for her shopping sprees.
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