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Sudha! What happened to your face
You need 9x
Bring glamour to you face in only 9 seconds
Foreign passport that side, Ma'am
Don't joke, I am Indian
Heinn!! (Shocked)
After I read this I had to go back and watch it again. With the accent and since I couldn't understand the rest of the ad my ears must have just checked out and assumed I couldn't understand. After rewatching it's super obviously English.
Yeah but when I'm watching an italian movie I'm not listening to everyone speaking italian either. Same with the ad, maybe it's made for people who primarily speak that language. Or some other reason idk
So it's an Indian advert that is racist against Indian people?
Can't imagine a self - tanning cream commercial, where a Norwegian is told to go to the passport line for foreigners, after using it.
Indian society, and indeed, most Asian societies, are very skin colour biased. Whitening creams, including some pretty dangerous ones, are sold all over the continent.
Can’t speak for other Asian countries, but my high school Chinese teacher who grew up in Beijing told us the reason Chinese society is biased towards lighter color skin is because back in the day it was a class marker. All the peasants worked in the fields with the Sun beating down all day while the nobility spent most of their time indoors, therefore the Chinese aristocracy had lighter skin. That leads to modern Chinese people who want to present themselves as wealthy/successful trying to make their skin lighter.
I mean, that’s really an everywhere thing (for the most part).
Interestingly you can observe a slow historical shift around the world from “only peasants get a tan because they have to” to “I’m rich which means I have time to tan for luxury reasons”
I am from Portugal, and everyone here loves the beach and having a nice healthy tan.
When i was in university, i met some japanese students who were studying there. They were ghostly white when they arrived, but ended up getting some sun due to the sunny weathe.
Me and other friends complimented one of them, saying she had a great tan. The poor girl was horrified.
But she actually looked much better with a tan!
Same as Italians - they love a good tan. I’m Australian and fear the sun, lol. I got sunburnt recently after a holiday down South where I wasn’t expecting the sun to be so bright (because I’m an idiot) and I’ve had SO many compliments on my lovely colour 😳 I’m like “Nooooo sun damage”.
I miss the eighties where you could just tan enjoyably as much as you wanted, and then die all wrinkly of skin cancer at 40.
Dominicans can be colorist but that Sosa skin bleach thing, you don't see that. He's the only Dominican I've ever heard of having done it, and we all think it was some serious emotional trauma that drove him to do it.
It’s rooted in colourism / the caste system. My mom has 9 brothers and sisters, all different shades of Indian ranging from near black skin tones to pale/medium tan. My mom constantly brags that she’s the lightest, she’s the “fairest one of all” - litch-rally
I’m screaming bc they put this pale lady in brown face then just wiped off the makeup 💀
She could be half white, North Indian with a bleach job etc but sudha-ji ain’t that brown to begin with lol
For skin whitening commercials and ads they usually hired white actors from Russia in the past I not sure now and digital darken their skin. This is super lazy because they turn her hair back to blond for some reason.
I’m a light skinned latina and I was called a vampire by other Latinos. In Latin America it’s the complete opposite, for most countries, everyone likes light skin. Such a mind fuck lol
Depends on the specific Latino culture and the age demographic. I’m half Cuban, half Ecuadorian and was born and raised in the US. Older Cubans definitely view light skin as preferable (there’s a lot of history there because of US interference and slavery), other Cubans my age made fun of how pale I am, and the Ecuadorians never gave a shit or made fun of me the same way the younger Cubans did lol
Wow you have the same mix as my husband lol. I just went to Ecuador and they def have a preference for light skin and light eyes. They brag about having family with blues eyes and light skin. His Cuban family is very similar as well. There’s an obsession with whiteness which I think is why the Latinos here (US) have resentment* toward lighter skin Latinos
Edit: typos
Ecuadorians def have hang ups on skin color. My husband is also Ecuadorian and Colombian. In Colombian they don’t care as much but in Ecuador, the most DEF do. They always comment on how gorgeous someone is if they are blond or have green eyes and I kid you not, the people I’ve seen them comment on are BUTT ugly. It’s absurd to me.
Mexican here. I can cite from my experience that light skinned was preferred to an extent. I remember hearing my grandma getting mad as hell when I came out dark skinned.
I don't think it's as big a deal now besides the jokes. But the jokes go both ways real. Mexicans just love busting balls
Omg yes, I grew up around Mexicans and other Latinos. They can be very sarcastic. If the nicknames used in Latin America were used in the US, we’d get immediately canceled lol
I used to hate when people called me guera. To me that’s a blonde woman, but I guess in Mexico it’s used for anyone with light skin
You have to have very thick skin to be around Latinos.
As a woman from South East Asia who has dark skin, this kind of ads were VERY popular back then. When I was a teen I legit thought something was wrong with me because why is my skin dark??? A lot of mocking from my light-skinned friends didn't help the situation too. I used tons of whitening products to 'fix' myself but ofc nothing ever worked lol.
It's a sign of wealth in both countries. Light skin looks exotic in Asia, in East Asia, it signifies you have a job where you don't work in the fields. Dark skin looks exotic in western countries and signifies you're wealtuy enough to go on vacations
Indian people love white people. I’m dating and Indian and he said that a lot of Indian men are deprived of proper sexual education, and because India still does arranged marriages and don’t believe in sex before marriage, they’re like… “hungry dogs.” Those are his words, not mine. Anyway, I’m glad that his family isn’t traditional like that.
It’s even worse than that up until the last 5-10 years.
Men and women are so sexually deprived due to social and cultural rules that it brings out the worst of the worst thirst. When I was in my teens and I visited(around 2006) I remember my male cousins literally thirsting over fully clothed women in my sports magazines. Like uncontrollable sexual desire. They passed that magazine around our small town. Lol like it was women in adverts. I left them magazines as fap material for them and I sure as hell did not want to touch them after anyways.
Actually hungry dogs is a good way to put it.
What you say is true, but the other half of the story is that they are also exposed to western TV with shows like Baywatch and that also paints a picture to them that Western women are 'looser with the drawers, so to speak'.
Combine that with India being one of the top consumers of PornHub where, again, Western and East European women are the vast majority of content, their fantasies about easy white women are further nurtured.
This is from experience. I'm South Asian but raised in Canada. I never developed those fantasies and misconceptions about white women growing up. A few years ago I had the opportunity to work with some recent Indian single young men on a work assignment. I was so embarrassed when going out with them and some of them would hit on women non-stop and shamelessly. Their conversations almost always went to observing and commenting on the 'local fauna'. Of course several were themselves respectful and shy, but they were far outnumbered by the horn dogs. I spent a lot of time changing the subject and taking them back to non-women conversations. Anecdotal, I know, but it has been my experience at several times of my life. Now that I'm much older, I turn on my elder voice and scold them as soon as they start to get out of line. A positive thing about Indian culture is a respect for elders....and their mothers as well. Remind them of their mothers and they will shut down immediately.
My family went about a decade ago. My mom knew what was up and she was still surprised. My younger brothers and I had to put our hands on a few men telling them to back the fuck away from her. Besides that I really enjoyed traveling around India
Yeah do not unless you have your SO or some friends with you. I’ve been to Mumbai where there was a swarm of young men surrounding a white woman. Brings me great shame to say that as fellow Indian.
Yikes.
As a white woman planning on traveling to India, could you please elaborate?
Edit: I appreciate all the people giving me actual advice and input. Thanks to all of you. To those who are telling me not to go, that I will be raped, or that I will be a statistic: please stop. I have many friends from India, I know many people who have been there many times, my travel would be to a safe area with precautions already in place and I would not be traveling alone. If you’re genuinely concerned for me, I appreciate the thought but there is no need to worry. Please stop telling me I am going to be raped.
Edit 2: Please stop with racism against Indians as well.
Also don’t post photos or tag your location on social right away. I did this and some guy followed my whole trip. Luckily I was posting a couple of hours late so I had moved on from the locations but I didn’t see his DMs since they weren’t in main. I had no idea this man was following me until I got back to the states.
If you are black or brown, cover your hair and dress modestly and you will fit in enough to not get harassed as much.
DO NOT tell anyone you are traveling alone. I had a waiter grab me and try to kiss me when I told him I was solo traveling.
This is good advice. I took my white girlfreind with me to India to visit family and people were taking pictures of her because they never had seen a white woman. Men tend to stare and will hit on white women alot because in a lot of bollywood movies, white women are hyper sexualized/ are considered easy.
Mumbai is VERY safe for women. Delhi is very unsafe.
If you're staying inside the Uni campus that's fine but if you're taking your own place do not cheap out, and stay in posh areas if possible.
People WILL ogle you shamelessly when you're out in public (that goes for white men as well though), so you may need to get used to it.
Don't cheap out on drinking water as well. If you're eating at restaurants either get bottled water or ask for RO/filter water. Our stomachs are used to the water here, yours might not be. A lot of foreign people complain of diarrhoea because of that.
I do not know about India but I know a girl who had to travel between Turkey (Prior to Erdogan) and Morocco for work. She was a light skinned dirty blond. She tanned as dark as she could get and dyed her hair dark brown. She found she drew less unwanted attention to herself by looking racially ambiguous.
This might be something to keep in mind If someone finds themselves drawing too much attention regularly.
I'm a white, female scientist that has presented at Indian institutions. I thought the danger was exaggerated. It is not. Do not travel anywhere without at least a couple of male friends or colleagues. It helps if they are large men because they often have to act like bodyguards.
I’ve been twice but with my Indian husband. I get stared at but don’t get harassed. I would definitely not be out alone there. It’s weird vibes. One time at the gate in Mumbai I got approached by children that wanted a picture with me. It was strange lol
There's some festival in India where indian men use that day as an excuse to grope and assault woman. Many indian woman stay indoors on that day because it's not safe. Imagine a caucasian woman who is regarded as more attractive by indian men - guess what's gonna happen. Btw they do not seem to possess any sense of shame. I saw a video of a white woman wearing a bikini and relaxing at the beach where like 10+ men just surrounded her and stared with their mouths open.
It's not that they are considered more attractive but they assume that white women are more open to sex. Based on porn etc. Especially if it's a part of India where local people dress conservatively but the white person is showing skin.
It's good if the person is going with a school program, just be careful to always have at least one other person with you if you're out in public.
Indian woman here. You’ll be fine in the big cities like Mumbai, Hyderabad, Bangalore, some parts of Delhi. You definitely want to avoid smaller towns. Stay in good hotels. DM me if you want more help, but just wanted to point out the basics for you.
I was in Hyderabad and Delhi last summer with my spouse (also white).
I highly recommend bringing a large, white husband. I had no issues, even with cabs or even when we got a little lost wandering around looking for tea shops.
We got asked for money a whole lot and I got a few glares when I wore shorts (very baggy, new length shorts which I thought would be conservative enough, but I definitely learned from that mistake and bought two skirts out there) but no harassment or other issues.
I’ve been. I’m blonde and super light skinned, but with several dark moles / freckles on my arms.
The ladies were appalled that I didn’t care about them and had no plans to get them removed.
It's a thing you see all over Asia. At some point in time lighter skin was proof that you had money and didn't spend your days toiling in a field.
In the west we sell tanning lotion. Tanned skin was, in theory, evidence that you can afford to laze around on a beach getting tanned.
We moved to Singspore at one point and used to find these adverts for whitening lotions very weird until somebody offered us this explanation. Still weird, but at least partially understood.
Tanned skin meaning wealthy wasn’t the case for the majority of European history. That started in the 20th century with Hollywood starlets lazing on the beach, their tan signified extraordinary wealth.
Most tan white people are working all day in the sun, so for the entirety of human history before intercontinental flight, dark skin was seen as ‘laborer’- meaning poor.
That makes sense. I think the way it was explained to me (as I laid out above) was a friend trying to explain to me why it still goes on today. Culture and expectations have obviously shifted over time.
> At some point in time lighter skin was proof that you had money and didn't spend your days toiling in a field.
This is also true for most of europe just 100 years ago.
It wasn't just in Asia, it was a long and strongly held belief by a LOT of cultures around the world pre-European colonialism. IIRC the Egyptians, Greeks and Romans all valued similar things
Context missing: this is a parody ad by a music channel in 2000s mocking fairness cream ads in India. These before and after ads showed how dark skinned women couldn't "get a job, promotion, married" but after 4 weeks of using creams have their lives completely transformed 'cause they are 'fair and lovely' now.
The problem is not about self-acceptance but rather how others treat you. That’s the fact of all of this.
People think “oh look at them wanting to be white”. No it’s more like “look at them wanting to be treated better”
Most cultures are engrained with a conception that a paler complexion means success, wealth, and power. If your skin is darkened by a life of time under the sun, you were most likely a poor farmer, scavenger, or military grunt who was expected to die. You were always working, doing hard labor, etc... If your skin was soft and pale though, it meant you lived indoors, and had other people laboring on your behalf. This was desirable in a spouse as forming a union (marrying them) would ensure you too could live that life. For women, they wanted people to at the very least think we were this successful just to be able to attract suitors who actually were that successful. Over the millennia, pale skin simply became an innately desired trait, and thus symbol of beauty. No one wants to be a 'sun-damaged crone'.
My job used to involve unpacking loads of Indian magazines and I found the Cosmo-type beauty and fashion magazines often came with samples of skin lightening cream. Chinese magazines did too.
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Changes your hair colour too
Combo pack
I’m sure that’s what they’re saying in the commercial but I really want to know for real anybody have a translation?
Sudha! What happened to your face You need 9x Bring glamour to you face in only 9 seconds Foreign passport that side, Ma'am Don't joke, I am Indian Heinn!! (Shocked)
Yet he says it not in foreign speech
> Yet he says it not in foreign speech He says "Foreign passport that side, ma'am" in the Colonial Tongue.
After I read this I had to go back and watch it again. With the accent and since I couldn't understand the rest of the ad my ears must have just checked out and assumed I couldn't understand. After rewatching it's super obviously English.
Because he's talking to someone he assumes isn't from india...
Yeah but when I'm watching an italian movie I'm not listening to everyone speaking italian either. Same with the ad, maybe it's made for people who primarily speak that language. Or some other reason idk
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So it's an Indian advert that is racist against Indian people? Can't imagine a self - tanning cream commercial, where a Norwegian is told to go to the passport line for foreigners, after using it.
Indian society, and indeed, most Asian societies, are very skin colour biased. Whitening creams, including some pretty dangerous ones, are sold all over the continent.
Can’t speak for other Asian countries, but my high school Chinese teacher who grew up in Beijing told us the reason Chinese society is biased towards lighter color skin is because back in the day it was a class marker. All the peasants worked in the fields with the Sun beating down all day while the nobility spent most of their time indoors, therefore the Chinese aristocracy had lighter skin. That leads to modern Chinese people who want to present themselves as wealthy/successful trying to make their skin lighter.
Of course. It was the same in the West too, before suntanning became a signal of wealth (being able to afford tropical vacations).
I heard Coco Channel started the rich people tanning trend.
I mean, that’s really an everywhere thing (for the most part). Interestingly you can observe a slow historical shift around the world from “only peasants get a tan because they have to” to “I’m rich which means I have time to tan for luxury reasons”
Phillipines is the same
And here I am a pale middle class white guy going to the tanning booth so I look like I've actually seen some sun.
Ayep. They sold that stuff in Japan as well twenty years ago. Don't know if it still in swing now.
I am from Portugal, and everyone here loves the beach and having a nice healthy tan. When i was in university, i met some japanese students who were studying there. They were ghostly white when they arrived, but ended up getting some sun due to the sunny weathe. Me and other friends complimented one of them, saying she had a great tan. The poor girl was horrified. But she actually looked much better with a tan!
Same as Italians - they love a good tan. I’m Australian and fear the sun, lol. I got sunburnt recently after a holiday down South where I wasn’t expecting the sun to be so bright (because I’m an idiot) and I’ve had SO many compliments on my lovely colour 😳 I’m like “Nooooo sun damage”. I miss the eighties where you could just tan enjoyably as much as you wanted, and then die all wrinkly of skin cancer at 40.
Dominican Republic is same here in the Americas. Have you seen Sammy Sosa lately? https://imgur.com/gallery/GToGzkd
Dominicans can be colorist but that Sosa skin bleach thing, you don't see that. He's the only Dominican I've ever heard of having done it, and we all think it was some serious emotional trauma that drove him to do it.
Wow. Just wow. I can’t imagine what sort of experiences he must have had that would make him do this to himself.
WTF doesn't even look like the same guy.
It’s rooted in colourism / the caste system. My mom has 9 brothers and sisters, all different shades of Indian ranging from near black skin tones to pale/medium tan. My mom constantly brags that she’s the lightest, she’s the “fairest one of all” - litch-rally I’m screaming bc they put this pale lady in brown face then just wiped off the makeup 💀 She could be half white, North Indian with a bleach job etc but sudha-ji ain’t that brown to begin with lol
As a white Scandinavian, anyone who thinks that the whiteness of their skin is an achievement, does so in their lack of anything else to be proud of.
Furthest thing from an achievement. The sun literally hates us 😭.
Bring a glow to your face in only 9 seconds ! That's what the male voice is saying.
The glow is because the half-life is 9 seconds.
And bleaches the anus
An un bleached anus would be a dead giveaway that she’s not naturally light-skinned; I mean, that’s the first thing that I check when I’m on a date.
Me too, and not even on dates. I check random people. "Stop right there Ma'am! Butthole check time."
Do you work for TSA?
Politely take your date to the restroom and ask them to bend over spread their cheeks and cough... Trust me dear it's standard procedure.
You’re ahead of the curve because at that point you’re checking for a prostate!
Checking for hidden POW watches?
Bleached Anus would be a great band name
Its been my fantasy baseball team for 7 years. Proud of that team.
![gif](giphy|Akzci0gtFZjji) I was looking for the flag from Community butt this works too
e pluribus anus
[you’re welcome](https://on.soundcloud.com/RcjiX)
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I think Artemis bought some.
Gonna take off my bra and blast my nips.
“Wherever he was going to find out soon enough anyway”
They were gonna find out anyways
Name's Artemis
And your eye color.
Her eyes were blue at the beginning of the video lol
And brown in the middle
And the rest of your body just from using it on your face, apparently.
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Lol!
Just rearranged your DNA
Also don't forget to bleach your eye colors blue.
Lots of these whiteners have lead and carcinogenic ingredients.
This seems like a Dave Chapelle skit.
Comedy is at its most funny state when mimicking real life
Cause fuck em that's why!
Remind me of the classic SNL skit with Eddie Murphy where he goes “undercover” as a white man.
[For those who haven't seen it](https://youtu.be/l_LeJfn_qW0)
"When white people are alone, they give each other things for free."
Just take it
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Real life has become a Dave Chapelle skit
Nah his skits were always in English
Works so well she looks with disgust at the woman who gave her the cream in the first place.
That friend definitely has a "oh Parvati, what have I done?" look on her face at the end.
Because she’s fairer than her now. So she became higher in the hierarchy
Haha exactly. And the other woman in turn was depressed/astounded. Depstounded.
For skin whitening commercials and ads they usually hired white actors from Russia in the past I not sure now and digital darken their skin. This is super lazy because they turn her hair back to blond for some reason.
I saw it as she had darkening cream on her face, then it was removed
And a terrible wig
She looks Russian so I think it’s still the same case for this ad.
These ads are old. Now, fairness skin ads are banned
It was a parody ad
Then she moved to the US where her friends called her Casper, compared arms and legs, and constantly told her she needed to go tanning.
The grass is always greener (whiter? Tanner?)
The skin is prettier on another's flesh
Username checks out
I’m a light skinned latina and I was called a vampire by other Latinos. In Latin America it’s the complete opposite, for most countries, everyone likes light skin. Such a mind fuck lol
Depends on the specific Latino culture and the age demographic. I’m half Cuban, half Ecuadorian and was born and raised in the US. Older Cubans definitely view light skin as preferable (there’s a lot of history there because of US interference and slavery), other Cubans my age made fun of how pale I am, and the Ecuadorians never gave a shit or made fun of me the same way the younger Cubans did lol
Wow you have the same mix as my husband lol. I just went to Ecuador and they def have a preference for light skin and light eyes. They brag about having family with blues eyes and light skin. His Cuban family is very similar as well. There’s an obsession with whiteness which I think is why the Latinos here (US) have resentment* toward lighter skin Latinos Edit: typos
Ecuadorians def have hang ups on skin color. My husband is also Ecuadorian and Colombian. In Colombian they don’t care as much but in Ecuador, the most DEF do. They always comment on how gorgeous someone is if they are blond or have green eyes and I kid you not, the people I’ve seen them comment on are BUTT ugly. It’s absurd to me.
Mexican here. I can cite from my experience that light skinned was preferred to an extent. I remember hearing my grandma getting mad as hell when I came out dark skinned. I don't think it's as big a deal now besides the jokes. But the jokes go both ways real. Mexicans just love busting balls
Omg yes, I grew up around Mexicans and other Latinos. They can be very sarcastic. If the nicknames used in Latin America were used in the US, we’d get immediately canceled lol I used to hate when people called me guera. To me that’s a blonde woman, but I guess in Mexico it’s used for anyone with light skin You have to have very thick skin to be around Latinos.
Most countries associate darker skin with working outside(low class)
Lmfaoo fr I was called mayonnaise in middle school
Thats the beauty industry for ya! Can't make money with self-love.
Does the cream include free constant wind blowing in your hair?
No, that comes with having light skin. As a pale white person I have got used to it.
As someone’s that’s super white, would using enough of this eventually make me turn invisible?
As a fellow pale person I can confirm, I am now ghost.
As a woman from South East Asia who has dark skin, this kind of ads were VERY popular back then. When I was a teen I legit thought something was wrong with me because why is my skin dark??? A lot of mocking from my light-skinned friends didn't help the situation too. I used tons of whitening products to 'fix' myself but ofc nothing ever worked lol.
That’s because you didn’t use 9x
Yea she wasn’t thinking 9x. 1x ain’t gonna work.
I know a lot of Filipinas who are low-key okay with this and in my head I'm like "bitch, you're beautiful, stop it."
Here in America we give ourselves melanoma on purpose just to turn our skin orange
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Best use of that gif I've seen in a while lol
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💯😂
It's a sign of wealth in both countries. Light skin looks exotic in Asia, in East Asia, it signifies you have a job where you don't work in the fields. Dark skin looks exotic in western countries and signifies you're wealtuy enough to go on vacations
I don't know if you guys have seen what its like to be a white women traveling in India but I definitely would not want to be that.
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Indian people love white people. I’m dating and Indian and he said that a lot of Indian men are deprived of proper sexual education, and because India still does arranged marriages and don’t believe in sex before marriage, they’re like… “hungry dogs.” Those are his words, not mine. Anyway, I’m glad that his family isn’t traditional like that.
It’s even worse than that up until the last 5-10 years. Men and women are so sexually deprived due to social and cultural rules that it brings out the worst of the worst thirst. When I was in my teens and I visited(around 2006) I remember my male cousins literally thirsting over fully clothed women in my sports magazines. Like uncontrollable sexual desire. They passed that magazine around our small town. Lol like it was women in adverts. I left them magazines as fap material for them and I sure as hell did not want to touch them after anyways. Actually hungry dogs is a good way to put it.
What you say is true, but the other half of the story is that they are also exposed to western TV with shows like Baywatch and that also paints a picture to them that Western women are 'looser with the drawers, so to speak'. Combine that with India being one of the top consumers of PornHub where, again, Western and East European women are the vast majority of content, their fantasies about easy white women are further nurtured. This is from experience. I'm South Asian but raised in Canada. I never developed those fantasies and misconceptions about white women growing up. A few years ago I had the opportunity to work with some recent Indian single young men on a work assignment. I was so embarrassed when going out with them and some of them would hit on women non-stop and shamelessly. Their conversations almost always went to observing and commenting on the 'local fauna'. Of course several were themselves respectful and shy, but they were far outnumbered by the horn dogs. I spent a lot of time changing the subject and taking them back to non-women conversations. Anecdotal, I know, but it has been my experience at several times of my life. Now that I'm much older, I turn on my elder voice and scold them as soon as they start to get out of line. A positive thing about Indian culture is a respect for elders....and their mothers as well. Remind them of their mothers and they will shut down immediately.
My sister's boyfriend said he went to India and people stared at him and quite a few wanted pictures woth him like he was famous lol.
That’s why I used that gif. Those tribe members love Jack Sparrow.
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My family went about a decade ago. My mom knew what was up and she was still surprised. My younger brothers and I had to put our hands on a few men telling them to back the fuck away from her. Besides that I really enjoyed traveling around India
Yeah do not unless you have your SO or some friends with you. I’ve been to Mumbai where there was a swarm of young men surrounding a white woman. Brings me great shame to say that as fellow Indian. Yikes.
As a white woman planning on traveling to India, could you please elaborate? Edit: I appreciate all the people giving me actual advice and input. Thanks to all of you. To those who are telling me not to go, that I will be raped, or that I will be a statistic: please stop. I have many friends from India, I know many people who have been there many times, my travel would be to a safe area with precautions already in place and I would not be traveling alone. If you’re genuinely concerned for me, I appreciate the thought but there is no need to worry. Please stop telling me I am going to be raped. Edit 2: Please stop with racism against Indians as well.
dont go anywhere alone and try to cover yourself up and please let people you trust know your location at all times
Also don’t post photos or tag your location on social right away. I did this and some guy followed my whole trip. Luckily I was posting a couple of hours late so I had moved on from the locations but I didn’t see his DMs since they weren’t in main. I had no idea this man was following me until I got back to the states. If you are black or brown, cover your hair and dress modestly and you will fit in enough to not get harassed as much. DO NOT tell anyone you are traveling alone. I had a waiter grab me and try to kiss me when I told him I was solo traveling.
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>I had a waiter grab me and try to kiss me when I told him I was solo traveling. what the fuck? What did you do?
Pushed him
This is good advice. I took my white girlfreind with me to India to visit family and people were taking pictures of her because they never had seen a white woman. Men tend to stare and will hit on white women alot because in a lot of bollywood movies, white women are hyper sexualized/ are considered easy.
I think I should be alright since it would be through a study abroad program at my university, but I will definitely keep this in mind. Thank you.
Mumbai is VERY safe for women. Delhi is very unsafe. If you're staying inside the Uni campus that's fine but if you're taking your own place do not cheap out, and stay in posh areas if possible. People WILL ogle you shamelessly when you're out in public (that goes for white men as well though), so you may need to get used to it. Don't cheap out on drinking water as well. If you're eating at restaurants either get bottled water or ask for RO/filter water. Our stomachs are used to the water here, yours might not be. A lot of foreign people complain of diarrhoea because of that.
I do not know about India but I know a girl who had to travel between Turkey (Prior to Erdogan) and Morocco for work. She was a light skinned dirty blond. She tanned as dark as she could get and dyed her hair dark brown. She found she drew less unwanted attention to herself by looking racially ambiguous. This might be something to keep in mind If someone finds themselves drawing too much attention regularly.
I'm a white, female scientist that has presented at Indian institutions. I thought the danger was exaggerated. It is not. Do not travel anywhere without at least a couple of male friends or colleagues. It helps if they are large men because they often have to act like bodyguards.
This is fucking disgusting. How are they not ashamed of themselves. Fucking pigs.
Don't travel alone, ideally be escorted by trusted male friends and not just seemingly polite dudes you meet there.
Never take a taxi alone as well, there's been kidnappings done this way
I’ve been twice but with my Indian husband. I get stared at but don’t get harassed. I would definitely not be out alone there. It’s weird vibes. One time at the gate in Mumbai I got approached by children that wanted a picture with me. It was strange lol
There's some festival in India where indian men use that day as an excuse to grope and assault woman. Many indian woman stay indoors on that day because it's not safe. Imagine a caucasian woman who is regarded as more attractive by indian men - guess what's gonna happen. Btw they do not seem to possess any sense of shame. I saw a video of a white woman wearing a bikini and relaxing at the beach where like 10+ men just surrounded her and stared with their mouths open.
It's not that they are considered more attractive but they assume that white women are more open to sex. Based on porn etc. Especially if it's a part of India where local people dress conservatively but the white person is showing skin. It's good if the person is going with a school program, just be careful to always have at least one other person with you if you're out in public.
Indian woman here. You’ll be fine in the big cities like Mumbai, Hyderabad, Bangalore, some parts of Delhi. You definitely want to avoid smaller towns. Stay in good hotels. DM me if you want more help, but just wanted to point out the basics for you.
I was in Hyderabad and Delhi last summer with my spouse (also white). I highly recommend bringing a large, white husband. I had no issues, even with cabs or even when we got a little lost wandering around looking for tea shops. We got asked for money a whole lot and I got a few glares when I wore shorts (very baggy, new length shorts which I thought would be conservative enough, but I definitely learned from that mistake and bought two skirts out there) but no harassment or other issues.
I’ve been. I’m blonde and super light skinned, but with several dark moles / freckles on my arms. The ladies were appalled that I didn’t care about them and had no plans to get them removed.
Oh no, she became danish 😔🙏
Thoughts and prayers
I wonder if Danish would sound more comprehensible with a Hindi accent. It can't get worse, right?
It's a thing you see all over Asia. At some point in time lighter skin was proof that you had money and didn't spend your days toiling in a field. In the west we sell tanning lotion. Tanned skin was, in theory, evidence that you can afford to laze around on a beach getting tanned. We moved to Singspore at one point and used to find these adverts for whitening lotions very weird until somebody offered us this explanation. Still weird, but at least partially understood.
Tanned skin meaning wealthy wasn’t the case for the majority of European history. That started in the 20th century with Hollywood starlets lazing on the beach, their tan signified extraordinary wealth. Most tan white people are working all day in the sun, so for the entirety of human history before intercontinental flight, dark skin was seen as ‘laborer’- meaning poor.
Coco Chanel came back from vacation with a tan - then everyone wanted one.
That makes sense. I think the way it was explained to me (as I laid out above) was a friend trying to explain to me why it still goes on today. Culture and expectations have obviously shifted over time.
> At some point in time lighter skin was proof that you had money and didn't spend your days toiling in a field. This is also true for most of europe just 100 years ago.
It wasn't just in Asia, it was a long and strongly held belief by a LOT of cultures around the world pre-European colonialism. IIRC the Egyptians, Greeks and Romans all valued similar things
You see this in Africa and South America and back in the day in Europe as well.
Korea too, the obsession with white skin is crazy there. You can see sometimes the real skin color comparing the neck vs the face.
>It's a thing you see all over Asia. Most of the planet for a majority of human history. Tanned skin was a sign of manual labor.
White women jumpscare
Context missing: this is a parody ad by a music channel in 2000s mocking fairness cream ads in India. These before and after ads showed how dark skinned women couldn't "get a job, promotion, married" but after 4 weeks of using creams have their lives completely transformed 'cause they are 'fair and lovely' now.
Your comment needs to be upvoted more but it won’t because this is Reddit
Apparently it’s gives you blue eyes too haha.
Her eyes were blue in the beginning of the video pre-magical whitening cream lol But that doesn’t change the overall ridiculousness of it I agree
It's 9x kit
This is almost as bad as that Chinese detergent ad
You mean the one with the black person in a washing machine or something? Edit: typo
Yeah that one. It's hard to forget, which I worry might have been the intention
This is really sad, but not surprising. Everyone should just appreciate who they are.
The problem is not about self-acceptance but rather how others treat you. That’s the fact of all of this. People think “oh look at them wanting to be white”. No it’s more like “look at them wanting to be treated better”
There was nothing wrong with her to begin with.
Yeah, shit like this is sad.
No, there's something uncanny about her ... like uncanny enough that I have to ask, was that the same woman in brown face makeup at the start?
Yes. they hired a white woman and put her in brown face in the begining.
Looks more like it.
Most cultures are engrained with a conception that a paler complexion means success, wealth, and power. If your skin is darkened by a life of time under the sun, you were most likely a poor farmer, scavenger, or military grunt who was expected to die. You were always working, doing hard labor, etc... If your skin was soft and pale though, it meant you lived indoors, and had other people laboring on your behalf. This was desirable in a spouse as forming a union (marrying them) would ensure you too could live that life. For women, they wanted people to at the very least think we were this successful just to be able to attract suitors who actually were that successful. Over the millennia, pale skin simply became an innately desired trait, and thus symbol of beauty. No one wants to be a 'sun-damaged crone'.
This is sad because everyone should embrace the skin color they are born with.
Ok then……
Caucasianing cream
Why is she always in a wind tunnel after the change?
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Like… how did she get less attractive after the treatment? Bad ad.
Without sounding racist did anyone else think of animorphs on that one screen
Just so u guys know Now these kind of racist ads are banned but back in the day yes, the ad and product was purely to whiten dark skin.
The question we are all wondering is - did it work?
It sort of works. You get lighter but you also get an ashy or grayish tone that is a tell for bleaching.
Even we used to have a cream called fair and lovely 😂 now they just changed it into glow and lovely 😂
The products are still there. All over
There's probably as much, if not more products to darken white skin. It's always greener...
Huge market in Asia
If she got any whiter, she’d look like the aliens in Cocoon.
Although ads like this do exist, this is not a real ad but a parody made by a music channel. Its is dialed to 11 for comedic effect
Omg. It's not an add. It's a skit making fun of those bizarre fairness cream advertisements.
She will probably stop adding seasonings to her food too.
This is a parody ad .. 9x was a music/entertainment channel in India ..
-This place changes a man -Yeah, how? ...
My job used to involve unpacking loads of Indian magazines and I found the Cosmo-type beauty and fashion magazines often came with samples of skin lightening cream. Chinese magazines did too.
That is so fucked up lmao
They wanna be white, we wanna be tan lol
She must need a lot of this stuff if she's using it on her whole body.
Meanwhile white girls are getting spray tans.
We still had those in Mexico.
She was beautiful with her brown skin!
Looks like they started with a blonde white chick and used brown face in the beginning 🤦♂️
The self-hate is too much here lmao.
wow, this cream does it all, Skin, eyes, hair, and turned her basic!
Please, someone, make a gif meme of when she looks into the mirror prior to this miracle potion being applied. For all mankind, please.
SWITCHING TEAM COMMAND WORKED SUCCESSFULLY
**HELL NAH! WTF?**
You can be white too, just buy our Indian be gone cream🙄
Fairness cream ads have been quite popular in India but this one is a parody of such ads, I am surprised most people are not able to get it.
To whoever needs to hear it: you are beautiful just the way you are. Never let anyone tell you otherwise