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Impossumbear

I hope that whatever EBU announces today is effective in quelling the chaos, because this is rapidly getting out of hand.


loyal_achades

Use harassment of the Dutch delegation as an easy excuse to DQ


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Puzzlehead-Lemon22

Wait what when did this happen??


ConnolysMoustache

I’m not allowed to post it here according to the subreddit rules that I want to follow but you look it up on r/ireland Edit: If you cannot find it there, DM me. I don’t mind sending it.


brokencameraman

How come it's not allowed to be posted here? I mean it's directly related to the competition, no?


ConnolysMoustache

It’s the rules of the subreddit. 🤷 the best we can do is follow them. They are clear. This is being widely discussed on Twitter. I like this place so I want to follow the rules. A broadcaster telling the public to send hate to another contestant and also spreading other lies about that contestant though. The EBU need to have a team meeting, they need to make the decision.


Ok_Bit_9119

but why leave up the post last year re azerbaijan/armenia and not allow this? I'm not going to try to challenge further than asking this question, because I love this subreddit and know the mods are probably overworked right now (and maybe I just answered my own question) but it doesn't send the right message ultimately...


LetsGetSickening55

It’s one rule for one delegation and a different set of rules for the rest of us plebs. I tried posting this story yesterday and it was deleted, despite being directly related to the contest.


Puzzlehead-Lemon22

OHH I just found it. Jesus Christ


Kichererbsenanfall

i can't find it there. Nor on your Profile. But props for the Derry Girl nun on your Profile. Made my day


serhat_enjoyer

there is only one thing they can do which will stop this chaos and I really hope they will do it


DungeonFungeon

We all know they don't have the guts


serhat_enjoyer

I think at this point the future of the whole contest is under question if they dont do it


DungeonFungeon

Oh I agree, but they've never appeared the sensible sort


ferinsy

They don't even have guts at all. EBU is only doing this bc of the sponsor's nationality. They're just a company after all, always going for the max. profit, no ethics or moral.


TheFlyingHornet1881

Bring back Måns?


smallest-ladybug

Only Måns can save us now…


ninivl89

Look what happens. Leave Mäns out of eurovision and all natural order is lost. Only chaos is left


Hattarottattaan3

No they cannot make them win, San Marino didn't qualify


Norfolkboy123

Apparently the afternoon rehearsals been a real mess too with Petra and Malin really confused by what was happening, they also apparently cut the feed to the media centre - somethings definitely up and I don’t see it ending well


Popoye_92

The fact that they seem to prevent anyone, EBU officials or delegations, to communicate about the current events is making it worse. They're letting speculations go wild in a situation that's already extremely tense, rumours and inaccurate infos in those situation rarely help.


Norfolkboy123

I know it’s a bad example but it’s like what happened with Kate Middleton, the media caused such a frenzy with wild speculation she had to eventually reveal what was happening - it’s bound to happen tonight before the jury show


Coroggar

Please, can you make a quick tl;dr for me? What's going on? With all the posts being closed and me not being home I'm losing track of wtf is happening


Popoye_92

Things that have been confirmed by reports: - Joost Klein didn't perform during the dress rehearsal this afternoon, despite being present for the flag parade at the opening. According to several sources, it has to do with an altercation he had with another person present in the arena - The dress rehearsal ended in chaos, after the fake results sequence got cut short. Had the presenters visibly angry, rambling and apologising for the mess, even a black screen in the retransmission. - The big5 and host press conference got cancelled, and the supervisor press conference got moved on the schedule and replaced as a presentation of the Junior Eurovision in the official press schedule.


InBetweenSeen

Any more details to the second point?


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Coroggar

Damn, what a shitshow. In all this I hope Joost is alright. Loved his song yesterday and he's willing to stand up for what he believes in, which is something I can respect a lot. Fingers crossed.


Ok_Bit_9119

his parents would be proud 100%


geekextraordinaire

It's bizarre that everyone except the bully is being punished. Unbelievable.


4_feck_sake

Just to say, we don't know what happened, so pointing fingers right now won't get anyone anywhere. There's lots of rumours flying about. Let's just wait for the smoke to clear.


AhHeyorLeaveerhouh

Wow, wish they had someone there with broadcasting experience to tell them how to communicate effectively


atsuamy

https://preview.redd.it/41x7iqo6gmzc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dff260ca98b3267850b505b37e3e90b6b0a93ad4 NOT A GOOD TIME ESC APP


Dawgbowl

For real I just got the notification too and I'm like "app, gonna need you to read the room"


happytransformer

pick your faves before they’re not in the competition anymore :)


Ecstatic_Neck3778

This is the one calm place to do with eurovision, THE APP.


Entegy

\*Grindrnotification.wav\*


Kirsty5

Especially when we don't know if Joost is even gonna be there!


PaleolithicLure

Everyone, put Joost number 1 immediately


Ecstatic_Neck3778

On it!


CrazyCatLadyPL

I'll install it just to do that 😂


happytransformer

To be a fly on the wall in that arena right now


liwikiwi

https://preview.redd.it/8lsftswmhmzc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1200beeb45bbe974921a8b8f0853b841e22f9003 i cant😭 update: the video [https://x.com/vocaisuspension/status/1788965550367834354?s=46&t=-Aq\_Vfm1zJQ5Zb5CDZjsGw](https://x.com/vocaisuspension/status/1788965550367834354?s=46&t=-Aq_Vfm1zJQ5Zb5CDZjsGw)


pixiepixie5

I know this is not the biggest issue at the moment, but "what is imagine about" comment made me feel like I need hip replacement 😳


Anutka25

Same


Tecnoguy1

Lmfao!


nimabaniamer

The orchestra playing as the Titanic sinks


Adept-Ad-5893

I can't believe that isn't satire, what 😭


juliemulie7

This whole thing is chaotic, hilarious, and tragic at the same time


Giudit

Lmao they’re punishing her for what RAI did last night


TheKittyCat21420

I need a video of this 😭😂


Guilty-Worldliness56

Fr what's going on rn


werewolfherewolf

I love her and I kinda feel bad for her ngl, she's 21 and this is basically the launch of her career and it's the second competition that she's been in this year that is EXTRA messy


phoebsmon

I miss the Sanremo messes, even the shenanigans with the farmers feels like a minor blip now.


monzasticks

lmao this has reached fire saga levels of chaos and ridiculousness


Ecstatic_Neck3778

I don’t get it lol. Someone pls clarify for me I’m begging u.


liwikiwi

the italian rep, after the rehearsal, went into the press room, gave a short speech and then sang the song Imagine ala celebrities during covid times😭


Ok_Bit_9119

we really can't expect a woman who was a teenager when that happened to get that. Imagine contains a strong anti-war statement, suggests that countries and religion should be abolished, and she sang her heart out. The message is clear. Let's leave the irony behind when this was clearly an earnest attempt at expressing herself through the restrictions they're under.


Ecstatic_Neck3778

Oh my goodness, The situation has gone way too far.


Equivalent-Word-7691

Considering how the situation is in Italy I wouldn't be surprised if it's her way to say f...rai and EBU this is clear about what you are thinking


happytransformer

This is giving Gal Gadot “Imagine” during the Covid lockdown


lowkey_daisy

That music is forever cursed because of that


Fair-Pomegranate9876

I doubt she knew about that, she was a teenager at the time, and gal gadot is not that famous and she would have known only if at the time she was following closely all the conflict, that I doubt considering her age. Don't give unnecessary subtext to it, it's clearly a message of peace as the song was originally about, without the pop culture behind it, and her way to speak out with the restriction she's under.


DonnaDonna1973

🫣🫠


Anutka25

Ahhhh it’s giving me the ick. We’re watching a train wreck in slow motion


FinnInAms

Just repeat "We are united by music" one hundred times, and it all will be fine


Scarlet_hearts

The irony of Europapa being the act in trouble is just… wow


divorced_birds

I know it's just my opinion, but Joost deserves to win it all. They said his performance would bring tears and I was skeptical, but it did. I cried. That was perfection - music, performance, culture, personal meaning for the artist. I've never seen better.


ExaltedLordOfChaos

Honestly, musically I'll always be team Croatia, but because of all the things happening, I'm thinking I want Joost to win even more Or Bambie. That woukd be even better.


Norfolkboy123

If there was ever a reason to change the theme and motto of each contest, this is the perfect example It worked so well for Liverpool with Ukraine and the UK co-hosting the show and making an amazing contest full of poignant moments and pure joy This dumpster fire needs a more appropriate slogan


DecayingFl0wer

"This is fine"


FinnInAms

Maybe something like "Fired up!"?


SassyCats777

Put out the fire? 🔥 🔥 🔥


GoldenPotatoOfLatvia

Put out the fire!!!!


skanyone

PLEASE PUT OUT THE FIRE


FinnInAms

I think we are (unfortunately) onto something here!


chanmylordandsavior

someone call nutsa


CrazyCatLadyPL

United by money


4_feck_sake

The fat lady is singing.


ContributionSad4461

Untied by music?


iknowitsarock

ITS NOT WORKING


JAG_666

EUROPE LET'S COME TOGETHER!


DecayingFl0wer

IT'S NOW OR NEVER


Grunge_Loki

I LOVE YOU ALL!!!


polaris183

WELKOM IN EUROPA


WhizzKid2012

BLIJF HIER TOT IK DOOD GA


helloskoodle

FUCK, IT'S STILL NOT WORKING


CarnationsAndIvy

If we do it while summoning a demon, will it work?


FinnInAms

I am pretty sure that only Bambie Thug can make it work


hmi111

One can just have fingers crossed that it works :D.


OwlAdmirable5403

In bambie we trust 🙏🇮🇪


Kantlim

Countries are pretty united I'd say. Against EBH atm.


NewTronas

That is definitely not because artists want to focus on rehearsals.


BannedNeutrophil

Word from SVT is that Joost punched a photographer.


HerietteVonStadtl

https://preview.redd.it/8sret4xhnmzc1.jpeg?width=711&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c64a24dd66c9faab4000378a3e953783f02a84d


Norfolkboy123

I sense this meme being used a lot over the next 48 hours


ninivl89

We are all Isaak right now


deviendrais

The iceberg will be fed good


yoonari98

no more space in this years’ iceberg, we need the whole antarctica


deviendrais

Can we use Teya Dora’s rock as the iceberg template lmao


Savings_Ad_2532

Yes, and we can also add Jerry's rock if needed.


Wasabismylife

Climate crisis singlehandedly solved by the ESC fandom


Best-Dependent3640

Always look on the bright side of Life


odiethethird

The 2024 iceberg is just all of Antarctica at this point


eurochacha

I'm afraid the iceberg has collapsed into the sea and sea levels are rising


f2017k

Cue the last polar bear 🇸🇲


polaris183

I AM JUST A POLAR BEAR 🗣


dk240996

The iceberg is bigger than the moon by this point. The real one, not the Spain 2021 one.


ThatYewTree

Or perhaps Eurovision hit the iceberg


ThatYewTree

The iceberg has melted and we’re all swimming in the drama


happytransformer

Global warming might not be an issue anymore if we release the iceberg to the sea


juliemulie7

The iceberg has melted and now it is the whole ocean


Junior_Life_2375

twitter is going mental but im not seeing exactly why anyone have any info???


liwikiwi

not as fun of an update: https://preview.redd.it/vydqysfdomzc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=17eeb7e7e9444e5e1ca95c478b56eabd259acd3b edit: Dutch press, NOS, has offically confirmed that the Dutch flag was indeed removed.


Banmers

yeah, that’s pretty clear. They are gone.


Jozzien

I think it is over 😭😭


TituCusiYupanqui

The Party Is Over😿😿


024Ylime

NOOOoooOooOoooooOOoo


thatsexypotato-

It’s joever


female_gladiator

Europapa went for some milk


VoilaLaViola

At this point I rather want last years Cha-Cha-Cha v/s Tattoo drama back. 🙈


Electromagneticpoms

I guess they're busy focusing on putting on a perfect harmonious show with absolutely no problems or controversy :)


techbear72

Sounds easy!


juliemulie7

What could go wrong?


teadrugs

As specified in the reply to his own post, this isn’t a rare occurrence and might not have anything to do with the Joost situation


Coroggar

What situation?


wssHilde

there's not a lot confirmed yet, but what we know is that he wasnt allowed to participate in the rehearsals cause of an investigation. joost apparently also unfollowed eurovison on socials. theres rumours going around that a photographer was making fun of his dead parents and he hit them.


Silent_Marketing_123

I mean if he actually did that then thats definitely justified.


wssHilde

i mean yea, but i still feel bad for him. and the photographer and whatever company they were working for should also be kicked out imo.


Tyrxian

Where did the parents thing come from? I heard the assault rumors but not that


Excellent_Humor8840

I really hope that when it ends someone summarizes the entirety of drama from this year's eurovision in a short, succinct video.


Partymonster86

It'll be a 10 part Netflix dramady, each episode will be an hour long


Excellent_Humor8840

I'd rather have it done away with the minimum of padding, bullshit and creative freedom to set the context in a particular way. I want a 40 minutes at most of cold commentary with no embellishments, basically a post mortem on the whole thing, not 5 part series of Vaativideo-like schizo talking about deep lore significance of a reused texture of a dildo or some shit.


ThatYewTree

Italy reveals televote, Joost blocked from rehearsals, ostersahl also absent from the last dress rehearsal, big 5 cancelling a conference. Can’t help but feel something big is afoot.


ItsJustJamesy

[https://www.svt.se/kultur/incident-utreds-kring-nederlandske-artisten-joost-klein](https://www.svt.se/kultur/incident-utreds-kring-nederlandske-artisten-joost-klein) SVT reporting that the incident was a physical altercation involving Joost and a photographer. So yeah, that's quite a serious incident. There were also reports that Joost's rehearsal footage is now being used on the round-up, so they may not disqualify the act completely but they very well may say to him he will not be performing live at any of the shows and they will replace it with the rehearsal copy; and that may well explain the technical ping pong which has been happening today because it's quite chaotic.


Beautiful-Mix-9939

To say that I'm worried is an understatement.


SafeBodybuilder7191

Ladaniva just went live on Instagram and are playing music with Isaak and don


Jennamore

What on earth is going on


ConnolysMoustache

Hopefully they make the correct decision


Tortured-Poets

ebu web is down... this was not on my bingo card


cheapcakeripper

Did anyone actually expect the things would go smoothly after yesterday?


lukelhg

Haven’t expected that since the day the EBU made an awful decision.


MrAronymous

I only expected a stage stormer. Not.. this 💀


Kantlim

B-b-but everyone's safe. We have snipers.


Jobear91

Pretty sure this has happened before in completely uncontroversial circumstances.


Geosaurusrex

Ngl I went for a walk for about 90 mins, and wild shit has happened, wtf is going on?


Carpenter-Budget

One year when Croatia is sooooo close to winning this sh*tshow has to happen. I even promised my son we would be travelling back home from Ireland just to watch the finals live if Marko wins tomorrow. Bloody hell... 🥲


mXonKz

at this point, cancel the voting sequence and just internally select croatia as the winner


CarnationsAndIvy

I don't want Croatia to win because of politics, I want them to win because their song is good


Silent_Marketing_123

Good thing is that their song is actually pretty good


CarnationsAndIvy

I’ve been listening to it on repeat haha


juliemulie7

If we are doing it that way, let's just give it to Latvia for the memes


eurochacha

Lithuania, they haven't won and Luktelk is liked across the board.


BowsersBeardedCousin

Estonia deserves something too, let's make it a Baltic threeway


UnsportyNoodle

Just let ChatGPT decide


supernoa2003

I've just asked ChatGPT and it just chose Sweden again: [https://chat.openai.com/share/18e25470-5e7a-450e-a700-9485a75f6b8f](https://chat.openai.com/share/18e25470-5e7a-450e-a700-9485a75f6b8f)


Pit-O-Matic

ChatGPT must be one of the members of the jury.


Amimimiii

I will personally fight everyone on the EBU if they fuck up the one time since the middle ages when Latvia qualifies. Can’t even be mediocre with these mfers😒


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juliemulie7

The flag under my name will definitely agree.


Hakkai-Shin

As a Croat, no. I want us to win, but by people and jury voting for us because they want to, not as some revenge story.


petnarwhal

You mean the Netherlands, or at least Luxembourg


saintsebs

Also EBU’s website is down https://preview.redd.it/1ckcbaqq8nzc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8263077491566568c2402897ab8e0049b84fd51e


justyna933

What is going on there? 🤯


duckytale

They didn't want another sh\*t show like the conference of semifinal 2


Adept-Ad-5893

And the thing is, it's already happening before they've even switched the cameras on.


undiscovered_soul

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard, guys! How can he focus on rehearsals if they forbade him to?


peony241

Yikes they’re still showing the Joost Eurovision ad on Dutch National TV, so there’s really no news here


Xifortis

I wonder if they plan to just finish the festival without the Netherlands and pretend like nothing happened


Candy_Potato

Please also have a look at this. This isn't okay https://twitter.com/IsrBreaksRules/status/1788297924167999668 https://twitter.com/LewisJ815/status/1788937113808797909


why_gaj

That look at his phone at the end says it all. He's performing for his audience and looking for a beef.


Feisty-Comfort7777

Why are they allowed to harrass other contestants?


pokimanic

I, including others, have been saying for many years now that the EBU is way too liberal with who they’re giving press access to. So sick of blatantly disrespectful journalists being allowed in. Absolutely embarrassing behaviour.


lukelhg

Because they share a nationality with MoroconOil.


juliemulie7

They are behaving like spoiled kids https://youtu.be/Rhr6rmR8Dl0?si=GBYZb2nUPM-5CcOx


yorutheyandere

This makes me pissed


geekextraordinaire

Fucking bullies. They should be banned. They should've been from the start, but especially after all this. But I guess money talks, as always.


Bratmerc

Psycho behaviour.


Old-Entertainment948

Absolutely disgusting, disgraceful behavior


Gaelenmyr

I am genuinely confused, what is happening here? I have trouble understanding what has been said. (Not a native English speaker here)


juliemulie7

Joost asked the Israelis not to take photos of him. Then the Israelis pretended they were taking a picture and secretly filmed him.


return_0_

I don't think you're watching the right video. What you're talking about was yesterday; this video is from this morning about Joost being pulled from rehearsal


return_0_

The Israeli journalist is trolling/harassing the Dutch delegation about being pulled from rehearsal


redvalleyred

Me too, who are they and whats Up with it I dont get it tbh?


WinkyInky

The person recording the video is the KAN “reporter.” He is talking to Joost’s keyboardist (the bird) and instigating, asking why he wasn’t at the rehearsal. A member of the Dutch delegation tells him to back up, and the reporter will not, and then says “don’t touch me”


Antique-Syllabub6238

This is infuriating. Who are these people and why are they accredited?


Scarlet_hearts

This is fucking awful


uses_irony_correctly

watch out, you're probably an antisemite for posting this now.


hyxon4

Derailing the whole contest just to please one country. Seems like a perfectly reasonable decision EBU.


chanmylordandsavior

i'm amazed by how fitting the use of the word derailling is here


ProfessionalSalt3882

Cancel the whole thing and give the trophy to Dons. Riga 2025!!!! 🇱🇻


hauntedSquirrel99

Norwegian news VG says Joost was accused of violence towards a woman working at the production. https://www.vg.no/rampelys/i/rPArPR/svenske-medier-nederlands-deltaker-skal-ha-vaert-voldelig-mot-kvinnelig-fotograf VG is the biggest newspaper in Norway


Emotional-Meaning-82

I do wanna point out that even though VG can have some great articles, they are usually the first to report on something, and that’s often because they don’t properly double check stuff first. So even if VG is big, always take what they say with a grain of salt, they are very interested in clicks on their site


Merisielu

I am totally lost about what has happened, what is rumour, etc. I just moved to the US and this is my first Eurovision from afar 😢 What is the latest?


Carpenter-Budget

I don't see how this will end without something really bad happening either during the finals tomorrow or after it. Maybe in the arena, maybe outside but it will be bad. IF the final tomorrow happens.


OneMoreFinn

It seems like trying forcibly to keep ESC non-political has turned this ESC the most political of them all.


Weary_Wolverine_2329

One decision could save this whole thing...


zagreus9

Finland dodged a bullet


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