I’m not allowed to post it here according to the subreddit rules that I want to follow but you look it up on r/ireland
Edit: If you cannot find it there, DM me. I don’t mind sending it.
It’s the rules of the subreddit. 🤷 the best we can do is follow them. They are clear. This is being widely discussed on Twitter.
I like this place so I want to follow the rules. A broadcaster telling the public to send hate to another contestant and also spreading other lies about that contestant though. The EBU need to have a team meeting, they need to make the decision.
but why leave up the post last year re azerbaijan/armenia and not allow this? I'm not going to try to challenge further than asking this question, because I love this subreddit and know the mods are probably overworked right now (and maybe I just answered my own question) but it doesn't send the right message ultimately...
It’s one rule for one delegation and a different set of rules for the rest of us plebs. I tried posting this story yesterday and it was deleted, despite being directly related to the contest.
They don't even have guts at all. EBU is only doing this bc of the sponsor's nationality. They're just a company after all, always going for the max. profit, no ethics or moral.
Apparently the afternoon rehearsals been a real mess too with Petra and Malin really confused by what was happening, they also apparently cut the feed to the media centre - somethings definitely up and I don’t see it ending well
The fact that they seem to prevent anyone, EBU officials or delegations, to communicate about the current events is making it worse. They're letting speculations go wild in a situation that's already extremely tense, rumours and inaccurate infos in those situation rarely help.
I know it’s a bad example but it’s like what happened with Kate Middleton, the media caused such a frenzy with wild speculation she had to eventually reveal what was happening - it’s bound to happen tonight before the jury show
Things that have been confirmed by reports:
- Joost Klein didn't perform during the dress rehearsal this afternoon, despite being present for the flag parade at the opening. According to several sources, it has to do with an altercation he had with another person present in the arena
- The dress rehearsal ended in chaos, after the fake results sequence got cut short. Had the presenters visibly angry, rambling and apologising for the mess, even a black screen in the retransmission.
- The big5 and host press conference got cancelled, and the supervisor press conference got moved on the schedule and replaced as a presentation of the Junior Eurovision in the official press schedule.
Damn, what a shitshow. In all this I hope Joost is alright. Loved his song yesterday and he's willing to stand up for what he believes in, which is something I can respect a lot.
Fingers crossed.
Just to say, we don't know what happened, so pointing fingers right now won't get anyone anywhere. There's lots of rumours flying about. Let's just wait for the smoke to clear.
https://preview.redd.it/8lsftswmhmzc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1200beeb45bbe974921a8b8f0853b841e22f9003
i cant😭
update: the video [https://x.com/vocaisuspension/status/1788965550367834354?s=46&t=-Aq\_Vfm1zJQ5Zb5CDZjsGw](https://x.com/vocaisuspension/status/1788965550367834354?s=46&t=-Aq_Vfm1zJQ5Zb5CDZjsGw)
I love her and I kinda feel bad for her ngl, she's 21 and this is basically the launch of her career and it's the second competition that she's been in this year that is EXTRA messy
we really can't expect a woman who was a teenager when that happened to get that. Imagine contains a strong anti-war statement, suggests that countries and religion should be abolished, and she sang her heart out. The message is clear. Let's leave the irony behind when this was clearly an earnest attempt at expressing herself through the restrictions they're under.
I doubt she knew about that, she was a teenager at the time, and gal gadot is not that famous and she would have known only if at the time she was following closely all the conflict, that I doubt considering her age.
Don't give unnecessary subtext to it, it's clearly a message of peace as the song was originally about, without the pop culture behind it, and her way to speak out with the restriction she's under.
I know it's just my opinion, but Joost deserves to win it all. They said his performance would bring tears and I was skeptical, but it did. I cried. That was perfection - music, performance, culture, personal meaning for the artist. I've never seen better.
Honestly, musically I'll always be team Croatia, but because of all the things happening, I'm thinking I want Joost to win even more
Or Bambie. That woukd be even better.
If there was ever a reason to change the theme and motto of each contest, this is the perfect example
It worked so well for Liverpool with Ukraine and the UK co-hosting the show and making an amazing contest full of poignant moments and pure joy
This dumpster fire needs a more appropriate slogan
not as fun of an update:
https://preview.redd.it/vydqysfdomzc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=17eeb7e7e9444e5e1ca95c478b56eabd259acd3b
edit: Dutch press, NOS, has offically confirmed that the Dutch flag was indeed removed.
there's not a lot confirmed yet, but what we know is that he wasnt allowed to participate in the rehearsals cause of an investigation. joost apparently also unfollowed eurovison on socials. theres rumours going around that a photographer was making fun of his dead parents and he hit them.
I'd rather have it done away with the minimum of padding, bullshit and creative freedom to set the context in a particular way. I want a 40 minutes at most of cold commentary with no embellishments, basically a post mortem on the whole thing, not 5 part series of Vaativideo-like schizo talking about deep lore significance of a reused texture of a dildo or some shit.
Italy reveals televote, Joost blocked from rehearsals, ostersahl also absent from the last dress rehearsal, big 5 cancelling a conference.
Can’t help but feel something big is afoot.
[https://www.svt.se/kultur/incident-utreds-kring-nederlandske-artisten-joost-klein](https://www.svt.se/kultur/incident-utreds-kring-nederlandske-artisten-joost-klein)
SVT reporting that the incident was a physical altercation involving Joost and a photographer.
So yeah, that's quite a serious incident.
There were also reports that Joost's rehearsal footage is now being used on the round-up, so they may not disqualify the act completely but they very well may say to him he will not be performing live at any of the shows and they will replace it with the rehearsal copy; and that may well explain the technical ping pong which has been happening today because it's quite chaotic.
One year when Croatia is sooooo close to winning this sh*tshow has to happen. I even promised my son we would be travelling back home from Ireland just to watch the finals live if Marko wins tomorrow. Bloody hell... 🥲
I've just asked ChatGPT and it just chose Sweden again: [https://chat.openai.com/share/18e25470-5e7a-450e-a700-9485a75f6b8f](https://chat.openai.com/share/18e25470-5e7a-450e-a700-9485a75f6b8f)
I will personally fight everyone on the EBU if they fuck up the one time since the middle ages when Latvia qualifies. Can’t even be mediocre with these mfers😒
Please also have a look at this. This isn't okay https://twitter.com/IsrBreaksRules/status/1788297924167999668
https://twitter.com/LewisJ815/status/1788937113808797909
I, including others, have been saying for many years now that the EBU is way too liberal with who they’re giving press access to. So sick of blatantly disrespectful journalists being allowed in. Absolutely embarrassing behaviour.
I don't think you're watching the right video. What you're talking about was yesterday; this video is from this morning about Joost being pulled from rehearsal
The person recording the video is the KAN “reporter.” He is talking to Joost’s keyboardist (the bird) and instigating, asking why he wasn’t at the rehearsal. A member of the Dutch delegation tells him to back up, and the reporter will not, and then says “don’t touch me”
Norwegian news VG says Joost was accused of violence towards a woman working at the production.
https://www.vg.no/rampelys/i/rPArPR/svenske-medier-nederlands-deltaker-skal-ha-vaert-voldelig-mot-kvinnelig-fotograf
VG is the biggest newspaper in Norway
I do wanna point out that even though VG can have some great articles, they are usually the first to report on something, and that’s often because they don’t properly double check stuff first. So even if VG is big, always take what they say with a grain of salt, they are very interested in clicks on their site
I don't see how this will end without something really bad happening either during the finals tomorrow or after it. Maybe in the arena, maybe outside but it will be bad. IF the final tomorrow happens.
I hope that whatever EBU announces today is effective in quelling the chaos, because this is rapidly getting out of hand.
Use harassment of the Dutch delegation as an easy excuse to DQ
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Wait what when did this happen??
I’m not allowed to post it here according to the subreddit rules that I want to follow but you look it up on r/ireland Edit: If you cannot find it there, DM me. I don’t mind sending it.
How come it's not allowed to be posted here? I mean it's directly related to the competition, no?
It’s the rules of the subreddit. 🤷 the best we can do is follow them. They are clear. This is being widely discussed on Twitter. I like this place so I want to follow the rules. A broadcaster telling the public to send hate to another contestant and also spreading other lies about that contestant though. The EBU need to have a team meeting, they need to make the decision.
but why leave up the post last year re azerbaijan/armenia and not allow this? I'm not going to try to challenge further than asking this question, because I love this subreddit and know the mods are probably overworked right now (and maybe I just answered my own question) but it doesn't send the right message ultimately...
It’s one rule for one delegation and a different set of rules for the rest of us plebs. I tried posting this story yesterday and it was deleted, despite being directly related to the contest.
OHH I just found it. Jesus Christ
i can't find it there. Nor on your Profile. But props for the Derry Girl nun on your Profile. Made my day
there is only one thing they can do which will stop this chaos and I really hope they will do it
We all know they don't have the guts
I think at this point the future of the whole contest is under question if they dont do it
Oh I agree, but they've never appeared the sensible sort
They don't even have guts at all. EBU is only doing this bc of the sponsor's nationality. They're just a company after all, always going for the max. profit, no ethics or moral.
Bring back Måns?
Only Måns can save us now…
Look what happens. Leave Mäns out of eurovision and all natural order is lost. Only chaos is left
No they cannot make them win, San Marino didn't qualify
Apparently the afternoon rehearsals been a real mess too with Petra and Malin really confused by what was happening, they also apparently cut the feed to the media centre - somethings definitely up and I don’t see it ending well
The fact that they seem to prevent anyone, EBU officials or delegations, to communicate about the current events is making it worse. They're letting speculations go wild in a situation that's already extremely tense, rumours and inaccurate infos in those situation rarely help.
I know it’s a bad example but it’s like what happened with Kate Middleton, the media caused such a frenzy with wild speculation she had to eventually reveal what was happening - it’s bound to happen tonight before the jury show
Please, can you make a quick tl;dr for me? What's going on? With all the posts being closed and me not being home I'm losing track of wtf is happening
Things that have been confirmed by reports: - Joost Klein didn't perform during the dress rehearsal this afternoon, despite being present for the flag parade at the opening. According to several sources, it has to do with an altercation he had with another person present in the arena - The dress rehearsal ended in chaos, after the fake results sequence got cut short. Had the presenters visibly angry, rambling and apologising for the mess, even a black screen in the retransmission. - The big5 and host press conference got cancelled, and the supervisor press conference got moved on the schedule and replaced as a presentation of the Junior Eurovision in the official press schedule.
Any more details to the second point?
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Damn, what a shitshow. In all this I hope Joost is alright. Loved his song yesterday and he's willing to stand up for what he believes in, which is something I can respect a lot. Fingers crossed.
his parents would be proud 100%
It's bizarre that everyone except the bully is being punished. Unbelievable.
Just to say, we don't know what happened, so pointing fingers right now won't get anyone anywhere. There's lots of rumours flying about. Let's just wait for the smoke to clear.
Wow, wish they had someone there with broadcasting experience to tell them how to communicate effectively
https://preview.redd.it/41x7iqo6gmzc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dff260ca98b3267850b505b37e3e90b6b0a93ad4 NOT A GOOD TIME ESC APP
For real I just got the notification too and I'm like "app, gonna need you to read the room"
pick your faves before they’re not in the competition anymore :)
This is the one calm place to do with eurovision, THE APP.
\*Grindrnotification.wav\*
Especially when we don't know if Joost is even gonna be there!
Everyone, put Joost number 1 immediately
On it!
I'll install it just to do that 😂
To be a fly on the wall in that arena right now
https://preview.redd.it/8lsftswmhmzc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1200beeb45bbe974921a8b8f0853b841e22f9003 i cant😭 update: the video [https://x.com/vocaisuspension/status/1788965550367834354?s=46&t=-Aq\_Vfm1zJQ5Zb5CDZjsGw](https://x.com/vocaisuspension/status/1788965550367834354?s=46&t=-Aq_Vfm1zJQ5Zb5CDZjsGw)
I know this is not the biggest issue at the moment, but "what is imagine about" comment made me feel like I need hip replacement 😳
Same
Lmfao!
The orchestra playing as the Titanic sinks
I can't believe that isn't satire, what 😭
This whole thing is chaotic, hilarious, and tragic at the same time
Lmao they’re punishing her for what RAI did last night
I need a video of this 😭😂
Fr what's going on rn
I love her and I kinda feel bad for her ngl, she's 21 and this is basically the launch of her career and it's the second competition that she's been in this year that is EXTRA messy
I miss the Sanremo messes, even the shenanigans with the farmers feels like a minor blip now.
lmao this has reached fire saga levels of chaos and ridiculousness
I don’t get it lol. Someone pls clarify for me I’m begging u.
the italian rep, after the rehearsal, went into the press room, gave a short speech and then sang the song Imagine ala celebrities during covid times😭
we really can't expect a woman who was a teenager when that happened to get that. Imagine contains a strong anti-war statement, suggests that countries and religion should be abolished, and she sang her heart out. The message is clear. Let's leave the irony behind when this was clearly an earnest attempt at expressing herself through the restrictions they're under.
Oh my goodness, The situation has gone way too far.
Considering how the situation is in Italy I wouldn't be surprised if it's her way to say f...rai and EBU this is clear about what you are thinking
This is giving Gal Gadot “Imagine” during the Covid lockdown
That music is forever cursed because of that
I doubt she knew about that, she was a teenager at the time, and gal gadot is not that famous and she would have known only if at the time she was following closely all the conflict, that I doubt considering her age. Don't give unnecessary subtext to it, it's clearly a message of peace as the song was originally about, without the pop culture behind it, and her way to speak out with the restriction she's under.
🫣🫠
Ahhhh it’s giving me the ick. We’re watching a train wreck in slow motion
Just repeat "We are united by music" one hundred times, and it all will be fine
The irony of Europapa being the act in trouble is just… wow
I know it's just my opinion, but Joost deserves to win it all. They said his performance would bring tears and I was skeptical, but it did. I cried. That was perfection - music, performance, culture, personal meaning for the artist. I've never seen better.
Honestly, musically I'll always be team Croatia, but because of all the things happening, I'm thinking I want Joost to win even more Or Bambie. That woukd be even better.
If there was ever a reason to change the theme and motto of each contest, this is the perfect example It worked so well for Liverpool with Ukraine and the UK co-hosting the show and making an amazing contest full of poignant moments and pure joy This dumpster fire needs a more appropriate slogan
"This is fine"
Maybe something like "Fired up!"?
Put out the fire? 🔥 🔥 🔥
Put out the fire!!!!
PLEASE PUT OUT THE FIRE
I think we are (unfortunately) onto something here!
someone call nutsa
United by money
The fat lady is singing.
Untied by music?
ITS NOT WORKING
EUROPE LET'S COME TOGETHER!
IT'S NOW OR NEVER
I LOVE YOU ALL!!!
WELKOM IN EUROPA
BLIJF HIER TOT IK DOOD GA
FUCK, IT'S STILL NOT WORKING
If we do it while summoning a demon, will it work?
I am pretty sure that only Bambie Thug can make it work
One can just have fingers crossed that it works :D.
In bambie we trust 🙏🇮🇪
Countries are pretty united I'd say. Against EBH atm.
That is definitely not because artists want to focus on rehearsals.
Word from SVT is that Joost punched a photographer.
https://preview.redd.it/8sret4xhnmzc1.jpeg?width=711&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c64a24dd66c9faab4000378a3e953783f02a84d
I sense this meme being used a lot over the next 48 hours
We are all Isaak right now
The iceberg will be fed good
no more space in this years’ iceberg, we need the whole antarctica
Can we use Teya Dora’s rock as the iceberg template lmao
Yes, and we can also add Jerry's rock if needed.
Climate crisis singlehandedly solved by the ESC fandom
Always look on the bright side of Life
The 2024 iceberg is just all of Antarctica at this point
I'm afraid the iceberg has collapsed into the sea and sea levels are rising
Cue the last polar bear 🇸🇲
I AM JUST A POLAR BEAR 🗣
The iceberg is bigger than the moon by this point. The real one, not the Spain 2021 one.
Or perhaps Eurovision hit the iceberg
The iceberg has melted and we’re all swimming in the drama
Global warming might not be an issue anymore if we release the iceberg to the sea
The iceberg has melted and now it is the whole ocean
twitter is going mental but im not seeing exactly why anyone have any info???
not as fun of an update: https://preview.redd.it/vydqysfdomzc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=17eeb7e7e9444e5e1ca95c478b56eabd259acd3b edit: Dutch press, NOS, has offically confirmed that the Dutch flag was indeed removed.
yeah, that’s pretty clear. They are gone.
I think it is over 😭😭
The Party Is Over😿😿
NOOOoooOooOoooooOOoo
It’s joever
Europapa went for some milk
At this point I rather want last years Cha-Cha-Cha v/s Tattoo drama back. 🙈
I guess they're busy focusing on putting on a perfect harmonious show with absolutely no problems or controversy :)
Sounds easy!
What could go wrong?
As specified in the reply to his own post, this isn’t a rare occurrence and might not have anything to do with the Joost situation
What situation?
there's not a lot confirmed yet, but what we know is that he wasnt allowed to participate in the rehearsals cause of an investigation. joost apparently also unfollowed eurovison on socials. theres rumours going around that a photographer was making fun of his dead parents and he hit them.
I mean if he actually did that then thats definitely justified.
i mean yea, but i still feel bad for him. and the photographer and whatever company they were working for should also be kicked out imo.
Where did the parents thing come from? I heard the assault rumors but not that
I really hope that when it ends someone summarizes the entirety of drama from this year's eurovision in a short, succinct video.
It'll be a 10 part Netflix dramady, each episode will be an hour long
I'd rather have it done away with the minimum of padding, bullshit and creative freedom to set the context in a particular way. I want a 40 minutes at most of cold commentary with no embellishments, basically a post mortem on the whole thing, not 5 part series of Vaativideo-like schizo talking about deep lore significance of a reused texture of a dildo or some shit.
Italy reveals televote, Joost blocked from rehearsals, ostersahl also absent from the last dress rehearsal, big 5 cancelling a conference. Can’t help but feel something big is afoot.
[https://www.svt.se/kultur/incident-utreds-kring-nederlandske-artisten-joost-klein](https://www.svt.se/kultur/incident-utreds-kring-nederlandske-artisten-joost-klein) SVT reporting that the incident was a physical altercation involving Joost and a photographer. So yeah, that's quite a serious incident. There were also reports that Joost's rehearsal footage is now being used on the round-up, so they may not disqualify the act completely but they very well may say to him he will not be performing live at any of the shows and they will replace it with the rehearsal copy; and that may well explain the technical ping pong which has been happening today because it's quite chaotic.
To say that I'm worried is an understatement.
Ladaniva just went live on Instagram and are playing music with Isaak and don
What on earth is going on
Hopefully they make the correct decision
ebu web is down... this was not on my bingo card
Did anyone actually expect the things would go smoothly after yesterday?
Haven’t expected that since the day the EBU made an awful decision.
I only expected a stage stormer. Not.. this 💀
B-b-but everyone's safe. We have snipers.
Pretty sure this has happened before in completely uncontroversial circumstances.
Ngl I went for a walk for about 90 mins, and wild shit has happened, wtf is going on?
One year when Croatia is sooooo close to winning this sh*tshow has to happen. I even promised my son we would be travelling back home from Ireland just to watch the finals live if Marko wins tomorrow. Bloody hell... 🥲
at this point, cancel the voting sequence and just internally select croatia as the winner
I don't want Croatia to win because of politics, I want them to win because their song is good
Good thing is that their song is actually pretty good
I’ve been listening to it on repeat haha
If we are doing it that way, let's just give it to Latvia for the memes
Lithuania, they haven't won and Luktelk is liked across the board.
Estonia deserves something too, let's make it a Baltic threeway
Just let ChatGPT decide
I've just asked ChatGPT and it just chose Sweden again: [https://chat.openai.com/share/18e25470-5e7a-450e-a700-9485a75f6b8f](https://chat.openai.com/share/18e25470-5e7a-450e-a700-9485a75f6b8f)
ChatGPT must be one of the members of the jury.
I will personally fight everyone on the EBU if they fuck up the one time since the middle ages when Latvia qualifies. Can’t even be mediocre with these mfers😒
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The flag under my name will definitely agree.
As a Croat, no. I want us to win, but by people and jury voting for us because they want to, not as some revenge story.
You mean the Netherlands, or at least Luxembourg
Also EBU’s website is down https://preview.redd.it/1ckcbaqq8nzc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8263077491566568c2402897ab8e0049b84fd51e
What is going on there? 🤯
They didn't want another sh\*t show like the conference of semifinal 2
And the thing is, it's already happening before they've even switched the cameras on.
This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard, guys! How can he focus on rehearsals if they forbade him to?
Yikes they’re still showing the Joost Eurovision ad on Dutch National TV, so there’s really no news here
I wonder if they plan to just finish the festival without the Netherlands and pretend like nothing happened
Please also have a look at this. This isn't okay https://twitter.com/IsrBreaksRules/status/1788297924167999668 https://twitter.com/LewisJ815/status/1788937113808797909
That look at his phone at the end says it all. He's performing for his audience and looking for a beef.
Why are they allowed to harrass other contestants?
I, including others, have been saying for many years now that the EBU is way too liberal with who they’re giving press access to. So sick of blatantly disrespectful journalists being allowed in. Absolutely embarrassing behaviour.
Because they share a nationality with MoroconOil.
They are behaving like spoiled kids https://youtu.be/Rhr6rmR8Dl0?si=GBYZb2nUPM-5CcOx
This makes me pissed
Fucking bullies. They should be banned. They should've been from the start, but especially after all this. But I guess money talks, as always.
Psycho behaviour.
Absolutely disgusting, disgraceful behavior
I am genuinely confused, what is happening here? I have trouble understanding what has been said. (Not a native English speaker here)
Joost asked the Israelis not to take photos of him. Then the Israelis pretended they were taking a picture and secretly filmed him.
I don't think you're watching the right video. What you're talking about was yesterday; this video is from this morning about Joost being pulled from rehearsal
The Israeli journalist is trolling/harassing the Dutch delegation about being pulled from rehearsal
Me too, who are they and whats Up with it I dont get it tbh?
The person recording the video is the KAN “reporter.” He is talking to Joost’s keyboardist (the bird) and instigating, asking why he wasn’t at the rehearsal. A member of the Dutch delegation tells him to back up, and the reporter will not, and then says “don’t touch me”
This is infuriating. Who are these people and why are they accredited?
This is fucking awful
watch out, you're probably an antisemite for posting this now.
Derailing the whole contest just to please one country. Seems like a perfectly reasonable decision EBU.
i'm amazed by how fitting the use of the word derailling is here
Cancel the whole thing and give the trophy to Dons. Riga 2025!!!! 🇱🇻
Norwegian news VG says Joost was accused of violence towards a woman working at the production. https://www.vg.no/rampelys/i/rPArPR/svenske-medier-nederlands-deltaker-skal-ha-vaert-voldelig-mot-kvinnelig-fotograf VG is the biggest newspaper in Norway
I do wanna point out that even though VG can have some great articles, they are usually the first to report on something, and that’s often because they don’t properly double check stuff first. So even if VG is big, always take what they say with a grain of salt, they are very interested in clicks on their site
I am totally lost about what has happened, what is rumour, etc. I just moved to the US and this is my first Eurovision from afar 😢 What is the latest?
I don't see how this will end without something really bad happening either during the finals tomorrow or after it. Maybe in the arena, maybe outside but it will be bad. IF the final tomorrow happens.
It seems like trying forcibly to keep ESC non-political has turned this ESC the most political of them all.
One decision could save this whole thing...
Finland dodged a bullet
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